November 15, 2023 • 22 mins
That's A Crime
Episode 69: 7-Eleven Clerks Beat Up Attempted Robber (2023)
Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez break down the true crime story of 7-Eleven Clerks Beat Up Attempted Robber in 2023. On July 29, 2023, 42-year-old Tyrone Frazier threatened to shoot store employees before stealing packs of cigarettes and running out of the store in Stockton, CA. Frazier returned the following day and the clerks pounced on him as he attempted to rob the store again.
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Jason Connell (00:01):
Whoa, just curious. Welcome to Just curious
media. This is that's a crime.
I'm Jason Connell.
Sal Rodriguez (00:10):
And I'm Sal Rodriguez.
Jason Connell (00:12):
All right sound we are back with another crime.
Sal Rodriguez (00:17):
And our favorite.
Well my favorite Cuz nobodydies. Nobody, nobody no, no
fatalities. And, you know, sortof, I don't know sympathetic
characters like our main personhere I think is a sad case I
think. Okay,
Jason Connell (00:31):
sad sad case no one dies. So sounds okay with
this episode. Okay. What todaySal, we are breaking down the
true crime story of 711 clerksbeat up attempted robber in
2023. Nuts. I'm sure you've beento some seven elevens in the Los
Angeles area. Yep. Always agreat place. Sometimes, there
(00:55):
can be an incident that goesdown there. I have seen my fair
share of things. Brewing thingsbrewing outside in the parking
lot. Not the safest place. I'mgoing to say that right now.
Sal Rodriguez (01:07):
One time Jason, a buddy of mine and I about 10
years ago, went to 711 walkedin. And as we're walking in, a
guy's walking out and he was hadto grab the fire extinguisher
and fire extinguish the entireplace. There was no fire mines,
no fire, yet white powder comingout. There was white powder all
(01:29):
over the entire store. And thisguy and I'm assuming he wasn't a
clerk? No, no, this was somelike some guy like this guy. You
know, just some guys shouldn'tbe doing those things. Wow,
Jason Connell (01:38):
that is a crime.
So if you had some more detailswe could put it on. That's a
crime.
Sal Rodriguez (01:42):
It was a crime.
Well,
Jason Connell (01:43):
let's jump into this crime. It's more recent
because on July 29 2023, inStockton, California, 42 year
old Tyrone Frazier was allegedlyinvolved in a dramatic encounter
at a 711 convenience store.
Apparently, Frazier had comeinto the store the prior day,
and threatened store employeeshinting at shooting them before
(02:07):
stealing packs of cigarettes andrunning out of the store. So
Sal, upon his return to thescene of the crime, as you know,
a lot of criminals cannot helpthemselves, they are drawn back
to the scene of a crime. So whatis it with that? What is that
fascination? I don't know, ifpeople really want to get
(02:29):
caught? Do they just kind ofwant to get caught? Is that
what's going on? Jason,
Sal Rodriguez (02:34):
the closest example I can give is when I
leave a job, let's say when Iused to work at the gym, let's
say would leave the gym move oneither quit or get fired. I
wouldn't you know, I would notgo back to the gym for like 10
years, it would there would beliterally like a 10 year gap.
And then maybe 10 years later, Iwould go back and go oh, I used
to work here you know, but Iwould let this long period of
(02:55):
time go by I wouldn't I wantednothing to do with and you
Jason Connell (02:58):
didn't even commit a crime.
Sal Rodriguez (03:01):
I didn't know no crimes were committed yet. I
don't I don't want to be a partof this place.
Jason Connell (03:04):
So yeah, this this of not having to use
Alberto Rodriguez would not becaught at the scene of the
crime. 10 years later, maybemaybe 10. So, Fraser comes back
in the next day and the 711employees, the clerks if you
will, are ready for him. Becausethis time he comes in so not
remembering He attempted or atleast threatened to kill these
(03:27):
guys. And now he's stealing foodand the clerk's go in to action.
So and there is a video a viralvideo, but we'll hold on for a
second because it's theconfrontation ensues. One
employee managed to tackleFrasier and hold him to the
ground while another so they'rea tandem here a little tag team
(03:50):
the other would grab a woodenwhat appeared to be broom handle
and strike him repeatedly on hisfeet legs and rear end. Yeah,
this is a beat down south andJason
Sal Rodriguez (04:07):
but Jason at the top of the of our show, that's
why I said I kind of felt sorryfor this guy because even though
he commits a crime, I kind offeel sorry for seeing some guy
getting beaten now. He wasalmost I would say the beaten
that was inflicted on him wasalmost like a spanking almost.
So it wasn't like they werelike, they were not hitting it
hitting him on the head. I don'tthink he was bleeding from
anywhere. But they were justalmost the equivalent of a
(04:30):
public flogging like they do insome of these other countries if
you spit gum out.
Jason Connell (04:34):
That's correct.
Because if you saw the videothere is a video it was tough to
play. It's more news reeltalking and just a couple little
clips because someone else had acell phone and they're trying to
get this so it's not what you'reimagining like you know wouldn't
handle I'm hitting someoneupside their you know their legs
and their feet. No, it was likeslow moving embarrassment like
your pride is being embarrassedyou know or shattered And this
(04:59):
guy is not putting up the bestfight. In fact, so how in the
video you can actually hearanother customer commenting on
things as it's developing asthese blows are happening, and
what did they say? Yeah,
Sal Rodriguez (05:15):
you can hear this other voice now. I wasn't
certain if it was the person whois holding the camera and
actually, the video could beYeah, it could have been or
another bystander because it'san Off camera voice. Yeah, as
would be said, but you hear thisthis voice say that's called
whipping up. So people wererooting on actually putting on
the the workers as they're doingthis. Because you know what?
(05:37):
These aren't like badassworkers. These aren't like MMA.
Employees. These are like, likevery much like regular dude
clerks doing this. Exactly.
Jason Connell (05:45):
And then like, slow moving shots. mortise like,
stay out of here. Don't you dothis? You know, holding them
down. It's not like, bam, bam,bam, hey, lay off. You might
kill this guy. It's not thatit's not that at all. And then
we actually hear Frazier finallygiving up the fight.
Sal Rodriguez (06:03):
No, that was weird. Because yeah, he was.
Well, the words that he says hesays, Okay, I'm done. So like,
he wasn't done a few secondsearlier. Yeah. But now he's
done. I
Jason Connell (06:14):
guess maybe he's done resisting. And he's like,
I've had enough Oh, could havebeen
Sal Rodriguez (06:18):
done resistant. I thought, I'm gonna like I'm done
being beaten is what I'm trying
Jason Connell (06:21):
to get to the hospital. I'm done. Well, he's
done. And then somehow, becauseit's not that bad. Fraser
manages to flee the scene beforethe police arrived. So they
probably let him up. Okay, he'shad enough he's learned his
lesson. He's not going to comein here anymore and threaten us.
Still cigarettes, stillsandwiches, he's grabbing all
(06:43):
sorts of stuff. He's learned hislesson. And he flees. So again,
he's not, you know, impaled.
He's not like unconscious,nothing like that. But later,
because he got away before thepolice arrived later, he was
found by authorities, becausethey responded to a separate
call in the area about a mancomplaining of leg pain from an
apparent beating with a stick.
(07:07):
Yeah. So you know, Colombo teamout here putting it together in
a second, we just heard aboutthis the guy at 711. Now,
however, due to the lack ofevidence connecting him to the
711, incident, Fraser wasn'tarrested until August 7, after
the video robbery went viral,because it did indeed go viral.
(07:32):
This was a chance to see theestablishment stand up for
themselves. And a lot of theseven elevens are owned by these
employees, or sometimes theyare, so they have more skin in
the game. You know, we've donethese like Flash roms recently,
where they come in, andemployees just like, hey, take
what you will take what youwant. But they're not. It's not
their merchandise.
Sal Rodriguez (07:52):
Sure. And they're not related to the owner.
They're not like, cousinrelatives, they're not
Jason Connell (07:57):
the owner are related to the owner. So these
guys probably like enough'senough, you know, they're gonna
stand up for, you know, theirplace. So as for the 711 clerks,
they initially faced potentialassault charges as a result of
their response. And that'sinteresting. So you're defending
your territory, you've beenthreatened by getting shot
(08:18):
potentially being shot. And youretaliate. And you could have
faced assault charges? I don'tknow. I mean, if they kept
going, I just don't know wherethat line is. And if he doesn't
have a weapon? I don't know. Butthat just seems kind of like, is
it you can't take it too far. Oryou can't defend your property
at all. I just don't know howthat ever would have come into
(08:40):
play thoughts.
Sal Rodriguez (08:42):
Well, there are all these gray areas. And that's
where the attorneys do theirtheir magic, right is
delineation of what you did wasover the line, what you did was
uncalled for unnecessary,whatever it may be, yeah, you
hit them 10 times instead ofonly two times, you know, yeah,
they're all these these grayareas. But in this instance,
though, it did seem like theywere just trying to sort of
(09:02):
maybe punish him and get rid ofhim. They were not trying to to
inflict irreparable damage. Theywere not trying to knock them
out. They weren't they weren'ttrying to make them bleed. You
know, they, they it looked likethey were giving them a
punishment, because a lot of thecomments and some of the on some
of the video links, a lot of thecomments. Were very much rooting
on the workers. And yeah, that'sright. Go for a justice is
served. I remember one of thecomments that justice is served.
(09:23):
Yeah, this is one of theseinstances of what we talked
about on the show beforevigilante ism, taking the law
into your own hands. And whatdoes that mean for these people?
Capturing the guy removing thestolen goods, giving him a
little beat down and thenletting them go is what they
did? Right.
Jason Connell (09:38):
They did let him go. I mean, he got out of them,
but I'm sure they could havejust stayed on top of him and
they didn't do I agree. Sowhatever the potential was of
that it didn't happen, becauseSan Joaquin County District
Attorney said the employees willnot be charged. It's good. I
feel the same. You know, theydidn't take it too far. I hope
(09:59):
that Fraser stays away. But asfor Frasier further
investigations linked him toother crimes in the area,
including robberies, previousrobberies that had gone
unreported. Wow. It's alllinking up to Tyrone Fraser as
he now faces the followingcharges,
Sal Rodriguez (10:21):
two counts of robbery, attempted robbery,
criminal threats, commercialburglary and vandalism. Whew.
That's an that's a healthy
Jason Connell (10:32):
record there.
Wow.
Sal Rodriguez (10:33):
Commercial burglary. Okay. Residential 11.
Okay. Yeah.
Jason Connell (10:39):
Yeah. So he's facing these. Not sure where
things stand now. We're intoOctober, but I'm assuming he'll
be found guilty on some there isvideo evidence of one in
particular at least a beat down?
And yeah, not a good thing.
Tyrone, I probably would takethis opportunity to deviate from
the path that you're on. Becauseit's not working and winding up
(11:03):
on that's a crime. But he'llprobably be facing some jail
time, Sal, I would say,
Sal Rodriguez (11:08):
you know, Jason, there are these, I would say
decades or moments in one'slifetime. Where I think there's
still opportunity. I do thinkhe's 42 I will not put it past a
42 year old to be able to changetheir life. Sure. I think it
would be unlikely that a 42 yearold would turn their life
around. But I do believe it'spossible. I do believe people
can change. I do have some hopefor Tyrone Frazier. I hope he's
(11:30):
okay. I hope he gets his medicaltreatment. I hope he serves his
time. I hope the employees areokay. I hope they're not
traumatized and have PTSD. hopeeverybody's okay after after all
this. And I'm glad no one wasfatally injured.
Jason Connell (11:41):
I totally agree.
Yeah, could have been a muchworse situation. It was an it's
a lighter crime. And it alsogoes to show that you could just
be at a 711 and chaos can breakout as you have seen in the
past. So be careful out there.
As I warn people, this is moreof the everyday crime, but a
crime nonetheless, because wecover all things on that's a
(12:02):
crime from a misdemeanor
Sal Rodriguez (12:05):
to a murder.
Jason I just want to mentionthat I do feel kind of bad for
for the names 711 Because Ithink 711 can get a bad rap with
stories like this. Sure.
Overall, I enjoy 711 Overall, Ilove me a good Coke, Slurpee.
love a good coke machines. And Iwill tell you this, if the
machines working like theMcDonald's shake machine, I used
(12:27):
to tell single female friendswho would say where do I go to
meet a guy I would say go to 711I used to call it the single guy
store. We used to tell singlewomen go to 711. I noticed today
though, I will see more womenand 711 I will actually see out
or maybe like 7030 70% Men 30%women, whereas it used to be
like 9010 90% Men 10% women, somore generally, generally a
(12:50):
gender mixed place.
Jason Connell (12:52):
Well, one thing I've noticed as we wrap this
crime up, is it seven elevensthey've always got some hanger
outs, if you will. All right, itattracts, like, let me get the
door for you. And I'll bewaiting here for a tip on the
way out cancer. There's thatelement. And they you know, I
get it homeless have to gosomewhere in Los Angeles, I saw
it even more than I've seen itelsewhere in the country. But
(13:15):
seven elevens are very similarthroughout entire United States.
So there's that element. And itcan definitely breed that kind
of dirty factor that I gottakeep my eye open here. In
Oklahoma. There's somethingcalled Kwik Trip. And Kwik Trip
is like high end, seven elevensright to the next level
(13:36):
convenience stores that are likethey're so well run sound that
police hang out there, they getfree drinks, it runs more like a
mini grocery store. So that setthe bar for me it kind of phased
out seven elevens in Tulsaanyway. So I would go in there
and just saying you phased outseven. I did and a lot of places
because these quick trips havecome in. It's like they've got
(13:57):
great gas, they have greatprices, it's clean. They don't
even allow that element anywherenear so it's more of like the
safe haven like a little like anice grocery store. And just so
that I forget when I moved to LAas I oh yeah, there's the seven
elevens I don't mind they're abit grimy. I don't but that
element and factor is there itis real. And I even read they
(14:22):
can't chase off any vagrants orpeople on their property like
legally they have a right to beon this public parking lot. So
what they started doing severalyears ago, so it's piping loud
music and this is outside Iwould come into a 711 Go who's
playing that classical music orwho was like yeah, it was
classical jazz and they just didit to deter people from setting
(14:45):
up shop right out front wantingto clean car windows, you know
not really being asked oropening the door for people so I
bet that was how they do it. Soit's funny how some
establishments have to tiptoearound that. And others like
quick jump It's like thatelements not welcome here. So
maybe it's just where it is inthe country. But it is
interesting to me. But as I readthis crime, it did not surprise
(15:08):
me. It was at a 711. And it waslate, late into the night. Like
he came in at like, 3am thenight before. And this incident
happened close to 1am. Not ashocker. In fact, it might
behoove places just to close up,like we close at 10 and will be
open at 10. You know what Imean? Like, not how much
business is happening frommidnight to 5am? Probably not a
(15:31):
lot. And there's probably a lotmore incidences like this. I'm
just saying, I
Sal Rodriguez (15:35):
have speculated on this in the past, Jason,
these places that are open 24hours, whether it be a
convenience mart or a gym, 24Hour Fitness 24 hours I'm not
certain about today, but for awhile they were Yeah. How much
money are they earning duringthat portion of time to justify
not only the expense, but thepotential hazards with liability
(15:57):
so late? Yeah, yeah, I don't Iwould not want my business open.
Probably beyond nine o'clock.
Yeah,
Jason Connell (16:02):
you think you're asking for trouble? And I'm not
trying to talk like an old prudeor, or John Lithgow and
Footloose, you know, as thepreacher like, let's no dancing.
No, I'm just saying, there's nota lot of upside. And when I'm
traveling across the country,and you need gas, it's like,
Hey, man, there's a lot ofclosed down. Because the, you
know, the volume, I'm going to asmall town to get gas, someone's
(16:23):
open. And sometimes now you goto these little places, and you
can't even go in, but you canget gas, they'll let you buy the
gas or, or pay through a littlething. I don't mind that
element. And if that's myestablishment, I'm just taking
it out of play late at night,things happen. You know, they
always said that to athletes,nothing good is happening at
2am. Get back to your dorm orget back to the hotel with the
(16:46):
team. You got to game every I'mjust, you know, equated it to
athlete terms. But anyway, sothat kind of came to mind
because we didn't talk about thetimes until just now that this
crime happened. Yeah, we couldprobably get a data sheets out
of like, crimes at seven elevensor other convenience stores
after midnight. Up until like4am. And compared to any other
(17:08):
time. And I'm sure it's, youknow, a lot higher in those non
peak hours but
Sal Rodriguez (17:14):
and I wouldn't, I wouldn't be interested in
adjacent. For those of yououtside of California may may
take for granted Circle K CircleK is new in Los Angeles, I
believe possibly you knew we'rein California, because I know we
only started seeing a few circleK's pop up in LA recently in
recent years. So I'm gonna seehow those stack up as far as
crime how much crime is going tobe happening at Circle K as
opposed to seven elevens or amPMS. Well,
Jason Connell (17:36):
so you're talking about Circle K strange things
are amiss at Circle K. That goesback to Bill and Ted's Excellent
Adventure 1989 comedy, and thatwas filmed in California. So
circle K's have been there sincethe 80s. Brother, but it wasn't
(17:57):
in Los Angeles. They were wasn'tin San Bernardino, which you
know, nearby. So we had severalRight, yeah, we had circle ks
and tell us as well, but again,they were devastated by Kwik
Trip. So
Sal Rodriguez (18:11):
I got to check out Kwik Trip but there's
nothing in Los Angeles KwikTrip. Now
Jason Connell (18:14):
they will take over the West Coast. I've always
said this. They're like inArizona and Texas, but their
headquarters, Oklahoma. Tulsa,Oklahoma is like the training
facility for the whole country.
Sal Rodriguez (18:26):
I'm gonna check it out.
Jason Connell (18:27):
Get you a job there, buddy. Well, that covers
the True Crime Story of the 711clerks beat up attempted robbery
in 2023. A lot of fun. So iteven brought up a second
discussion about just the safetyof convenience stores and the
hours that they should beoperating. But now comes a new
(18:48):
favorite segment of that's acrime and that is the spotlight
the Spotlight series. It's awhole new arena that we've
created so many episodes ago.
But we go back in the archivesand our library and pull a crime
out from the past and talk aboutit brush it off and remind
people it's worth listening tofor the first time or revisiting
and today I have chosen episode30 man arrested three times in
(19:10):
one day, and 2022 Now just to beclear, it was not Tyrone Fraser
from this last crime. Thisdefinitely was not him. It
wasn't California, but it wasJames LinkedIn of Glendale,
California near you. I used tolive near Orlando. I used to
live in England at one point intime. But he was arrested three
(19:32):
times in one day and it wasSuper Bowl Sunday, February
13 2022. While the Rams werewinning the Super Bowl cross
town. He was getting arrestedfor the second or third time, a
classic crime. So I
Sal Rodriguez (19:49):
would imagine if you were a police officer
responding to something duringSuperbowl Sunday, you probably
be upset that something's takingyou away from the game some
stupid stuff taking you awayfrom the land
Jason Connell (19:58):
and I just arrested him a few hours ago.
Sal Rodriguez (20:02):
I arrested in first quarter now for
Jason Connell (20:05):
this Come on, just get in the game came down
to the last play of the game.
This lane is killing me. Aclassic crime. I had to pair
these together. They were kindof silly, silly crimes guys not
thinking it through, you know,obviously, Tyrone knew should
have known I should say shouldhave known not to go back to the
711. Net. He was provoking theclerks that night before bad
(20:29):
things are gonna happen if youdo. And they did. And James kept
getting out on bail are releasedand he kept finding himself
behind bars. I don't know if hejust wanted to mill on a bed. I
don't know. But he was arrestedthree times in one day. Check it
out. It's true. These are truecrimes on that's a crime and not
ones well worth your time.
Sal Rodriguez (20:53):
Yeah, and we don't even do we remember what
he got arrested for? They
Jason Connell (20:57):
were silly, like breaking in an apartment. And
remember he Yeah. What are youdoing in here? Hmm. It was just
just,
Sal Rodriguez (21:05):
it wasn't like any it wasn't any felonies? I
don't think it was it was like,Yeah, odd ball oddball crimes
and to
Jason Connell (21:11):
stack them in one day. He just went for it.
Sal Rodriguez (21:13):
I gotta hand it to him. I hope he's okay to man.
He's okay.
Jason Connell (21:17):
These guys are Trump. He's doing his own
record.
Sal Rodriguez (21:21):
Since then, we may need to update he may he may
have. You know what, now thatyou mentioned it. I don't know
if anybody paid attention to theGuinness Book of World Records
is really blowing up right now.
I've been a big fan my wholelife.
Jason Connell (21:31):
But right now, you could consider it a bit
obscure though, isn't it? Well,
Sal Rodriguez (21:34):
yeah, that's true. But this could be one of
them. You know, most arrests ina day, we'd have to look at
that. How
Jason Connell (21:39):
many hours of podcasting can you do in a row?
I've been podcasting for threestraight weeks. Yeah, they just
weren't doing that thing. Now.
These are records that shouldn'tbe broken and shouldn't even be
attempted. But that's a wholeother discussion. Well,
Sal Rodriguez (21:53):
I want to see if James legging it goes for most
of the rest of the day. I'mrooting for him. There
Jason Connell (21:57):
you go. We recorded that back on February
18 2022. Plenty of time forJames to stir up more trouble in
Glendale. That's for sure. Sothank you so much for listening.
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Whoa, just curious. Welcome to Just curious
media. This is that's a crime.
I'm Jason Connell.
Sal Rodriguez (00:10):
And I'm Sal Rodriguez.
Jason Connell (00:12):
All right sound we are back with another crime.
Sal Rodriguez (00:17):
And our favorite.
Well my favorite Cuz nobodydies. Nobody, nobody no, no
fatalities. And, you know, sortof, I don't know sympathetic
characters like our main personhere I think is a sad case I
think. Okay,
Jason Connell (00:31):
sad sad case no one dies. So sounds okay with
this episode. Okay. What todaySal, we are breaking down the
true crime story of 711 clerksbeat up attempted robber in
2023. Nuts. I'm sure you've beento some seven elevens in the Los
Angeles area. Yep. Always agreat place. Sometimes, there
(00:55):
can be an incident that goesdown there. I have seen my fair
share of things. Brewing thingsbrewing outside in the parking
lot. Not the safest place. I'mgoing to say that right now.
Sal Rodriguez (01:07):
One time Jason, a buddy of mine and I about 10
years ago, went to 711 walkedin. And as we're walking in, a
guy's walking out and he was hadto grab the fire extinguisher
and fire extinguish the entireplace. There was no fire mines,
no fire, yet white powder comingout. There was white powder all
(01:29):
over the entire store. And thisguy and I'm assuming he wasn't a
clerk? No, no, this was somelike some guy like this guy. You
know, just some guys shouldn'tbe doing those things. Wow,
Jason Connell (01:38):
that is a crime.
So if you had some more detailswe could put it on. That's a
crime.
Sal Rodriguez (01:42):
It was a crime.
Well,
Jason Connell (01:43):
let's jump into this crime. It's more recent
because on July 29 2023, inStockton, California, 42 year
old Tyrone Frazier was allegedlyinvolved in a dramatic encounter
at a 711 convenience store.
Apparently, Frazier had comeinto the store the prior day,
and threatened store employeeshinting at shooting them before
(02:07):
stealing packs of cigarettes andrunning out of the store. So
Sal, upon his return to thescene of the crime, as you know,
a lot of criminals cannot helpthemselves, they are drawn back
to the scene of a crime. So whatis it with that? What is that
fascination? I don't know, ifpeople really want to get
(02:29):
caught? Do they just kind ofwant to get caught? Is that
what's going on? Jason,
Sal Rodriguez (02:34):
the closest example I can give is when I
leave a job, let's say when Iused to work at the gym, let's
say would leave the gym move oneither quit or get fired. I
wouldn't you know, I would notgo back to the gym for like 10
years, it would there would beliterally like a 10 year gap.
And then maybe 10 years later, Iwould go back and go oh, I used
to work here you know, but Iwould let this long period of
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time go by I wouldn't I wantednothing to do with and you
Jason Connell (02:58):
didn't even commit a crime.
Sal Rodriguez (03:01):
I didn't know no crimes were committed yet. I
don't I don't want to be a partof this place.
Jason Connell (03:04):
So yeah, this this of not having to use
Alberto Rodriguez would not becaught at the scene of the
crime. 10 years later, maybemaybe 10. So, Fraser comes back
in the next day and the 711employees, the clerks if you
will, are ready for him. Becausethis time he comes in so not
remembering He attempted or atleast threatened to kill these
(03:27):
guys. And now he's stealing foodand the clerk's go in to action.
So and there is a video a viralvideo, but we'll hold on for a
second because it's theconfrontation ensues. One
employee managed to tackleFrasier and hold him to the
ground while another so they'rea tandem here a little tag team
(03:50):
the other would grab a woodenwhat appeared to be broom handle
and strike him repeatedly on hisfeet legs and rear end. Yeah,
this is a beat down south andJason
Sal Rodriguez (04:07):
but Jason at the top of the of our show, that's
why I said I kind of felt sorryfor this guy because even though
he commits a crime, I kind offeel sorry for seeing some guy
getting beaten now. He wasalmost I would say the beaten
that was inflicted on him wasalmost like a spanking almost.
So it wasn't like they werelike, they were not hitting it
hitting him on the head. I don'tthink he was bleeding from
anywhere. But they were justalmost the equivalent of a
(04:30):
public flogging like they do insome of these other countries if
you spit gum out.
Jason Connell (04:34):
That's correct.
Because if you saw the videothere is a video it was tough to
play. It's more news reeltalking and just a couple little
clips because someone else had acell phone and they're trying to
get this so it's not what you'reimagining like you know wouldn't
handle I'm hitting someoneupside their you know their legs
and their feet. No, it was likeslow moving embarrassment like
your pride is being embarrassedyou know or shattered And this
(04:59):
guy is not putting up the bestfight. In fact, so how in the
video you can actually hearanother customer commenting on
things as it's developing asthese blows are happening, and
what did they say? Yeah,
Sal Rodriguez (05:15):
you can hear this other voice now. I wasn't
certain if it was the person whois holding the camera and
actually, the video could beYeah, it could have been or
another bystander because it'san Off camera voice. Yeah, as
would be said, but you hear thisthis voice say that's called
whipping up. So people wererooting on actually putting on
the the workers as they're doingthis. Because you know what?
(05:37):
These aren't like badassworkers. These aren't like MMA.
Employees. These are like, likevery much like regular dude
clerks doing this. Exactly.
Jason Connell (05:45):
And then like, slow moving shots. mortise like,
stay out of here. Don't you dothis? You know, holding them
down. It's not like, bam, bam,bam, hey, lay off. You might
kill this guy. It's not thatit's not that at all. And then
we actually hear Frazier finallygiving up the fight.
Sal Rodriguez (06:03):
No, that was weird. Because yeah, he was.
Well, the words that he says hesays, Okay, I'm done. So like,
he wasn't done a few secondsearlier. Yeah. But now he's
done. I
Jason Connell (06:14):
guess maybe he's done resisting. And he's like,
I've had enough Oh, could havebeen
Sal Rodriguez (06:18):
done resistant. I thought, I'm gonna like I'm done
being beaten is what I'm trying
Jason Connell (06:21):
to get to the hospital. I'm done. Well, he's
done. And then somehow, becauseit's not that bad. Fraser
manages to flee the scene beforethe police arrived. So they
probably let him up. Okay, he'shad enough he's learned his
lesson. He's not going to comein here anymore and threaten us.
Still cigarettes, stillsandwiches, he's grabbing all
(06:43):
sorts of stuff. He's learned hislesson. And he flees. So again,
he's not, you know, impaled.
He's not like unconscious,nothing like that. But later,
because he got away before thepolice arrived later, he was
found by authorities, becausethey responded to a separate
call in the area about a mancomplaining of leg pain from an
apparent beating with a stick.
(07:07):
Yeah. So you know, Colombo teamout here putting it together in
a second, we just heard aboutthis the guy at 711. Now,
however, due to the lack ofevidence connecting him to the
711, incident, Fraser wasn'tarrested until August 7, after
the video robbery went viral,because it did indeed go viral.
(07:32):
This was a chance to see theestablishment stand up for
themselves. And a lot of theseven elevens are owned by these
employees, or sometimes theyare, so they have more skin in
the game. You know, we've donethese like Flash roms recently,
where they come in, andemployees just like, hey, take
what you will take what youwant. But they're not. It's not
their merchandise.
Sal Rodriguez (07:52):
Sure. And they're not related to the owner.
They're not like, cousinrelatives, they're not
Jason Connell (07:57):
the owner are related to the owner. So these
guys probably like enough'senough, you know, they're gonna
stand up for, you know, theirplace. So as for the 711 clerks,
they initially faced potentialassault charges as a result of
their response. And that'sinteresting. So you're defending
your territory, you've beenthreatened by getting shot
(08:18):
potentially being shot. And youretaliate. And you could have
faced assault charges? I don'tknow. I mean, if they kept
going, I just don't know wherethat line is. And if he doesn't
have a weapon? I don't know. Butthat just seems kind of like, is
it you can't take it too far. Oryou can't defend your property
at all. I just don't know howthat ever would have come into
(08:40):
play thoughts.
Sal Rodriguez (08:42):
Well, there are all these gray areas. And that's
where the attorneys do theirtheir magic, right is
delineation of what you did wasover the line, what you did was
uncalled for unnecessary,whatever it may be, yeah, you
hit them 10 times instead ofonly two times, you know, yeah,
they're all these these grayareas. But in this instance,
though, it did seem like theywere just trying to sort of
(09:02):
maybe punish him and get rid ofhim. They were not trying to to
inflict irreparable damage. Theywere not trying to knock them
out. They weren't they weren'ttrying to make them bleed. You
know, they, they it looked likethey were giving them a
punishment, because a lot of thecomments and some of the on some
of the video links, a lot of thecomments. Were very much rooting
on the workers. And yeah, that'sright. Go for a justice is
served. I remember one of thecomments that justice is served.
(09:23):
Yeah, this is one of theseinstances of what we talked
about on the show beforevigilante ism, taking the law
into your own hands. And whatdoes that mean for these people?
Capturing the guy removing thestolen goods, giving him a
little beat down and thenletting them go is what they
did? Right.
Jason Connell (09:38):
They did let him go. I mean, he got out of them,
but I'm sure they could havejust stayed on top of him and
they didn't do I agree. Sowhatever the potential was of
that it didn't happen, becauseSan Joaquin County District
Attorney said the employees willnot be charged. It's good. I
feel the same. You know, theydidn't take it too far. I hope
(09:59):
that Fraser stays away. But asfor Frasier further
investigations linked him toother crimes in the area,
including robberies, previousrobberies that had gone
unreported. Wow. It's alllinking up to Tyrone Fraser as
he now faces the followingcharges,
Sal Rodriguez (10:21):
two counts of robbery, attempted robbery,
criminal threats, commercialburglary and vandalism. Whew.
That's an that's a healthy
Jason Connell (10:32):
record there.
Wow.
Sal Rodriguez (10:33):
Commercial burglary. Okay. Residential 11.
Okay. Yeah.
Jason Connell (10:39):
Yeah. So he's facing these. Not sure where
things stand now. We're intoOctober, but I'm assuming he'll
be found guilty on some there isvideo evidence of one in
particular at least a beat down?
And yeah, not a good thing.
Tyrone, I probably would takethis opportunity to deviate from
the path that you're on. Becauseit's not working and winding up
(11:03):
on that's a crime. But he'llprobably be facing some jail
time, Sal, I would say,
Sal Rodriguez (11:08):
you know, Jason, there are these, I would say
decades or moments in one'slifetime. Where I think there's
still opportunity. I do thinkhe's 42 I will not put it past a
42 year old to be able to changetheir life. Sure. I think it
would be unlikely that a 42 yearold would turn their life
around. But I do believe it'spossible. I do believe people
can change. I do have some hopefor Tyrone Frazier. I hope he's
(11:30):
okay. I hope he gets his medicaltreatment. I hope he serves his
time. I hope the employees areokay. I hope they're not
traumatized and have PTSD. hopeeverybody's okay after after all
this. And I'm glad no one wasfatally injured.
Jason Connell (11:41):
I totally agree.
Yeah, could have been a muchworse situation. It was an it's
a lighter crime. And it alsogoes to show that you could just
be at a 711 and chaos can breakout as you have seen in the
past. So be careful out there.
As I warn people, this is moreof the everyday crime, but a
crime nonetheless, because wecover all things on that's a
(12:02):
crime from a misdemeanor
Sal Rodriguez (12:05):
to a murder.
Jason I just want to mentionthat I do feel kind of bad for
for the names 711 Because Ithink 711 can get a bad rap with
stories like this. Sure.
Overall, I enjoy 711 Overall, Ilove me a good Coke, Slurpee.
love a good coke machines. And Iwill tell you this, if the
machines working like theMcDonald's shake machine, I used
(12:27):
to tell single female friendswho would say where do I go to
meet a guy I would say go to 711I used to call it the single guy
store. We used to tell singlewomen go to 711. I noticed today
though, I will see more womenand 711 I will actually see out
or maybe like 7030 70% Men 30%women, whereas it used to be
like 9010 90% Men 10% women, somore generally, generally a
(12:50):
gender mixed place.
Jason Connell (12:52):
Well, one thing I've noticed as we wrap this
crime up, is it seven elevensthey've always got some hanger
outs, if you will. All right, itattracts, like, let me get the
door for you. And I'll bewaiting here for a tip on the
way out cancer. There's thatelement. And they you know, I
get it homeless have to gosomewhere in Los Angeles, I saw
it even more than I've seen itelsewhere in the country. But
(13:15):
seven elevens are very similarthroughout entire United States.
So there's that element. And itcan definitely breed that kind
of dirty factor that I gottakeep my eye open here. In
Oklahoma. There's somethingcalled Kwik Trip. And Kwik Trip
is like high end, seven elevensright to the next level
(13:36):
convenience stores that are likethey're so well run sound that
police hang out there, they getfree drinks, it runs more like a
mini grocery store. So that setthe bar for me it kind of phased
out seven elevens in Tulsaanyway. So I would go in there
and just saying you phased outseven. I did and a lot of places
because these quick trips havecome in. It's like they've got
(13:57):
great gas, they have greatprices, it's clean. They don't
even allow that element anywherenear so it's more of like the
safe haven like a little like anice grocery store. And just so
that I forget when I moved to LAas I oh yeah, there's the seven
elevens I don't mind they're abit grimy. I don't but that
element and factor is there itis real. And I even read they
(14:22):
can't chase off any vagrants orpeople on their property like
legally they have a right to beon this public parking lot. So
what they started doing severalyears ago, so it's piping loud
music and this is outside Iwould come into a 711 Go who's
playing that classical music orwho was like yeah, it was
classical jazz and they just didit to deter people from setting
(14:45):
up shop right out front wantingto clean car windows, you know
not really being asked oropening the door for people so I
bet that was how they do it. Soit's funny how some
establishments have to tiptoearound that. And others like
quick jump It's like thatelements not welcome here. So
maybe it's just where it is inthe country. But it is
interesting to me. But as I readthis crime, it did not surprise
(15:08):
me. It was at a 711. And it waslate, late into the night. Like
he came in at like, 3am thenight before. And this incident
happened close to 1am. Not ashocker. In fact, it might
behoove places just to close up,like we close at 10 and will be
open at 10. You know what Imean? Like, not how much
business is happening frommidnight to 5am? Probably not a
(15:31):
lot. And there's probably a lotmore incidences like this. I'm
just saying, I
Sal Rodriguez (15:35):
have speculated on this in the past, Jason,
these places that are open 24hours, whether it be a
convenience mart or a gym, 24Hour Fitness 24 hours I'm not
certain about today, but for awhile they were Yeah. How much
money are they earning duringthat portion of time to justify
not only the expense, but thepotential hazards with liability
(15:57):
so late? Yeah, yeah, I don't Iwould not want my business open.
Probably beyond nine o'clock.
Yeah,
Jason Connell (16:02):
you think you're asking for trouble? And I'm not
trying to talk like an old prudeor, or John Lithgow and
Footloose, you know, as thepreacher like, let's no dancing.
No, I'm just saying, there's nota lot of upside. And when I'm
traveling across the country,and you need gas, it's like,
Hey, man, there's a lot ofclosed down. Because the, you
know, the volume, I'm going to asmall town to get gas, someone's
(16:23):
open. And sometimes now you goto these little places, and you
can't even go in, but you canget gas, they'll let you buy the
gas or, or pay through a littlething. I don't mind that
element. And if that's myestablishment, I'm just taking
it out of play late at night,things happen. You know, they
always said that to athletes,nothing good is happening at
2am. Get back to your dorm orget back to the hotel with the
(16:46):
team. You got to game every I'mjust, you know, equated it to
athlete terms. But anyway, sothat kind of came to mind
because we didn't talk about thetimes until just now that this
crime happened. Yeah, we couldprobably get a data sheets out
of like, crimes at seven elevensor other convenience stores
after midnight. Up until like4am. And compared to any other
(17:08):
time. And I'm sure it's, youknow, a lot higher in those non
peak hours but
Sal Rodriguez (17:14):
and I wouldn't, I wouldn't be interested in
adjacent. For those of yououtside of California may may
take for granted Circle K CircleK is new in Los Angeles, I
believe possibly you knew we'rein California, because I know we
only started seeing a few circleK's pop up in LA recently in
recent years. So I'm gonna seehow those stack up as far as
crime how much crime is going tobe happening at Circle K as
opposed to seven elevens or amPMS. Well,
Jason Connell (17:36):
so you're talking about Circle K strange things
are amiss at Circle K. That goesback to Bill and Ted's Excellent
Adventure 1989 comedy, and thatwas filmed in California. So
circle K's have been there sincethe 80s. Brother, but it wasn't
(17:57):
in Los Angeles. They were wasn'tin San Bernardino, which you
know, nearby. So we had severalRight, yeah, we had circle ks
and tell us as well, but again,they were devastated by Kwik
Trip. So
Sal Rodriguez (18:11):
I got to check out Kwik Trip but there's
nothing in Los Angeles KwikTrip. Now
Jason Connell (18:14):
they will take over the West Coast. I've always
said this. They're like inArizona and Texas, but their
headquarters, Oklahoma. Tulsa,Oklahoma is like the training
facility for the whole country.
Sal Rodriguez (18:26):
I'm gonna check it out.
Jason Connell (18:27):
Get you a job there, buddy. Well, that covers
the True Crime Story of the 711clerks beat up attempted robbery
in 2023. A lot of fun. So iteven brought up a second
discussion about just the safetyof convenience stores and the
hours that they should beoperating. But now comes a new
(18:48):
favorite segment of that's acrime and that is the spotlight
the Spotlight series. It's awhole new arena that we've
created so many episodes ago.
But we go back in the archivesand our library and pull a crime
out from the past and talk aboutit brush it off and remind
people it's worth listening tofor the first time or revisiting
and today I have chosen episode30 man arrested three times in
(19:10):
one day, and 2022 Now just to beclear, it was not Tyrone Fraser
from this last crime. Thisdefinitely was not him. It
wasn't California, but it wasJames LinkedIn of Glendale,
California near you. I used tolive near Orlando. I used to
live in England at one point intime. But he was arrested three
(19:32):
times in one day and it wasSuper Bowl Sunday, February
13 2022. While the Rams werewinning the Super Bowl cross
town. He was getting arrestedfor the second or third time, a
classic crime. So I
Sal Rodriguez (19:49):
would imagine if you were a police officer
responding to something duringSuperbowl Sunday, you probably
be upset that something's takingyou away from the game some
stupid stuff taking you awayfrom the land
Jason Connell (19:58):
and I just arrested him a few hours ago.
Sal Rodriguez (20:02):
I arrested in first quarter now for
Jason Connell (20:05):
this Come on, just get in the game came down
to the last play of the game.
This lane is killing me. Aclassic crime. I had to pair
these together. They were kindof silly, silly crimes guys not
thinking it through, you know,obviously, Tyrone knew should
have known I should say shouldhave known not to go back to the
711. Net. He was provoking theclerks that night before bad
(20:29):
things are gonna happen if youdo. And they did. And James kept
getting out on bail are releasedand he kept finding himself
behind bars. I don't know if hejust wanted to mill on a bed. I
don't know. But he was arrestedthree times in one day. Check it
out. It's true. These are truecrimes on that's a crime and not
ones well worth your time.
Sal Rodriguez (20:53):
Yeah, and we don't even do we remember what
he got arrested for? They
Jason Connell (20:57):
were silly, like breaking in an apartment. And
remember he Yeah. What are youdoing in here? Hmm. It was just
just,
Sal Rodriguez (21:05):
it wasn't like any it wasn't any felonies? I
don't think it was it was like,Yeah, odd ball oddball crimes
and to
Jason Connell (21:11):
stack them in one day. He just went for it.
Sal Rodriguez (21:13):
I gotta hand it to him. I hope he's okay to man.
He's okay.
Jason Connell (21:17):
These guys are Trump. He's doing his own
record.
Sal Rodriguez (21:21):
Since then, we may need to update he may he may
have. You know what, now thatyou mentioned it. I don't know
if anybody paid attention to theGuinness Book of World Records
is really blowing up right now.
I've been a big fan my wholelife.
Jason Connell (21:31):
But right now, you could consider it a bit
obscure though, isn't it? Well,
Sal Rodriguez (21:34):
yeah, that's true. But this could be one of
them. You know, most arrests ina day, we'd have to look at
that. How
Jason Connell (21:39):
many hours of podcasting can you do in a row?
I've been podcasting for threestraight weeks. Yeah, they just
weren't doing that thing. Now.
These are records that shouldn'tbe broken and shouldn't even be
attempted. But that's a wholeother discussion. Well,
Sal Rodriguez (21:53):
I want to see if James legging it goes for most
of the rest of the day. I'mrooting for him. There
Jason Connell (21:57):
you go. We recorded that back on February
18 2022. Plenty of time forJames to stir up more trouble in
Glendale. That's for sure. Sothank you so much for listening.
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