August 1, 2025 • 45 mins
What do a chrome-decked trucking legend, a daredevil squirrel, and a lifelong family tradition have in common?
In this episode of That’s Delivered, Trucking Ray sits down with Chuck, Toni, and the legendary “Hollywood” – Toni’s father and a longtime truck driver whose love of chrome and showstopping rigs earned him his nickname. From the origins of Twiggy the water-skiing squirrel in 1978 to the challenges of RV life on tour, Chuck and Toni take us behind the scenes of a truly one-of-a-kind show. Meanwhile, Hollywood shares vivid stories from trucking's golden era, revealing how much the road—and the rules—have changed. At the heart of it all is a story of legacy, resilience, and finding purpose in the most unexpected places.
✅ Key Takeaways:
✅ Twiggy’s Start: What began as a friendly bet in 1978 turned into an iconic squirrel act that’s performed coast-to-coast for 46 years.
✅ Behind the Scenes of the Show: Learn how the team trains squirrels, tours in a 31-foot RV, and handles the unique personalities of their furry stars.
✅ Hollywood’s Trucking Tales: Hear firsthand what trucking was like before power steering and GPS—when chrome shined brighter and respect was earned mile by mile.
✅ Life Lessons on the Road: From juggling multiple logbooks to commanding attention at DOT stops, Hollywood’s stories highlight grit, style, and old-school pride.
✅ Legacy & Family Bond: Toni shares heartfelt memories of growing up with a trucking dad and how those early influences shaped her path with Twiggy.
✅ From Tragedy to Mission: After a devastating family accident, the Twiggy show evolved to promote water safety and is now endorsed by the U.S. Coast Guard.
✅ Connecting Generations: This episode celebrates how family, trucking, and entertainment can blend into a lasting tradition that continues to inspire.
Visit twiggyshow.com or follow @twiggywaterskiingsquirrel to find upcoming performances and enjoy this unique slice of Americana in person.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
what do you get?
When you mix a legendarytrucker known as hollywood and a
family legacy of squirreltraining a show that's been
making waves literally fordecades you get one of the most
unique episodes you've ever hadon that's delivered podcast and
I'm your host, trucking ray, andtoday we have a wild and fun,
heart heartwarming episode foryou guys.
I met Chuck and Tony at theMall of America while watching
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one of the most memorable showsI've ever seen, a water skiing
squirrel named Twiggy anddefinitely made a great
impression.
I had to have them on the show.
And that's not all.
I was also joined by Tony heretoday, with Tony's dad, known on
the road as Hollywood.
His truck always has had chromelights, and the presence has
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made people stop and stare, andthe story of an over-the-road
truck driver is one worthhearing, especially when you
hear how he shaped hisdaughter's journey too.
So let's dive in Chuck, tonyand also Hollywood.
We got you guys on the show.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, definitely Always a good time.
Awesome man.
You know you guys started outwith a great show.
I got to meet you guys andlet's start with the Twiggy Show
.
Help people understand whatthat's about, how it originated,
how it came to life.
It's not just every day you seesomeone wakes up and decides to
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teach squirrels to water ski.
How do you guys get thatstarted?
What was the story behind it?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Oh man.
Well, the story actuallystarted back in 1978 all as a
joke by my dad.
Um, he basically had a petsquirrel and decided to teach it
how to water ski, just to,basically as as a bet to his
friend.
And um, he ended up doing it,put the squirrel on water skis
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as a joke and it got famousovernight.
And then all of a sudden, in1979, september 21st, he did his
very first show with my mom.
It was my mom and my dad.
They traveled around fromMinneapolis, st Paul, actually
in September of 79, and thenbasically continued that legacy
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on.
And here we are, 46 years later.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Wow, amazing.
I mean, those guys are adorable.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They're a little nuts sometimes, but you know.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh man.
So what's the story behind thename Twiggy?
Maybe help people understandwhy you picked that one.
I'll let you answer that one.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So Chuck's mom Luann she had a bunch of houseplants
and their pet squirrel at thetime had the run of the house
and the squirrel would chew allthe leaves off of the
houseplants left nothing elsebut twigs, hence the name Twiggy
love it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Uh also see you know people.
You see people's reactions.
Um, when they see your show forthe first time, uh, did people
believe what they were seeing?
Uh, how did?
What were the reactions?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
not on the internet.
They think it's all ai, yeah,they think it's ai on social
media.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So it's actually it's really fun to see.
You know, kids are always goingto laugh and smile and enjoy
their time.
I think the biggest like thrillfor me is seeing the adults
reaction, because we have gotten, you know, like a 40, 50 year
old guy rolling on the floorlaughing.
He was so in shock, um, and Ithink, uh, even people who want
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to participate so badly theadults and they jump in the pool
because they are like I don'tknow shocked by how cute twiggy
is and and they want to be apart of the show.
So it's really awesome to havethe adults reaction.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So like it's off the charts it's always different.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, definitely yeah , when I was there I was like
man.
You guys get quite a variety ofreactions.
I can tell, wow, that's amazing.
So life on the road too, whatis that?
Like you know, I can imaginetraveling with train swirls is a
unique kind of touring life.
And can you give us behind thescenes of what it looks like on
the road for you guys?
I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
for the most part.
I mean a lot of times we haveor booked every week so we're
traveling from show to show, butwe I mean we're living at truck
stops, to be honest, flying J'sand pilots that loves, you know
.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Tnas, that's basically our life, you know we
drive a 31 foot RV and we pull a12 foot trailer behind it.
So you know, as as in thetrucker world, you know, not
everybody has enough space or isas accommodating when you're of
that size, even though we'renot as big as you truckers, but
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still, we still have our issueswith getting around and we've
been kicked out of bucky's andall the you know walmart yeah
walmart's.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Uh, you know you have to find a place to sleep,
especially.
I mean, sometimes you'redriving till three, four am and
if you wait till past 8, 9o'clock you ain't finding a spot
sometimes.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And I have yelled at him a couple of times.
When we're at a truck stop I'mlike let's just keep driving,
Let the truckers park.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It gets us going.
But yeah, so that's.
You know, we pretty much showto show, we live in the RV, you
know, at truck stops basically,and then, once we get to the
destination, we're able to livein a hotel, luckily, so get a
little space and a good shower,even though you know we do love
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our pilot showers.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Some of them are really nice.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I can't complain.
She likes the water pressure atthe truck stops better than our
house.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Nice, that's awesome.
What kind of training does itactually take to teach a
squirrel how to water ski?
I think people can be amazedwhen they see the effort that
goes into it.
I mean those guys.
They look so adorable out therebut you can only imagine
there's got to be somefrustration with it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So once you earn their love and trust, just like
any other animal, even like adog, you know, once you earn
their love and trust, it's inthe sense just like training a
dog using the same words,commands, lots of repetition.
You actually even train oursquirrels in the show so the
audience can see it forthemselves.
You know, live and in action,get to participate in that, just
to see.
You know, sometimes they listen, sometimes they don't, and you
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know they they call the shots.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And I think the cool part about it is we're not
training every day, we're nottraining when we're at home, we
just ski once.
They learn it After the firstmonth and they know how to water
ski, it's just we show up.
I mean they could take two,three months off and they come
back and they remember they'rereally smart animals and a lot
of people don't understand howsmart they really are.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Wow.
How do you care for themphysically and emotionally
during the tour?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, so just like how you interact with your cat
or dog.
No worse, I mean yeah, yourdogs are not chewing corners of
the wall and cabinets, no.
So they eat twice a day, in themorning and in the evening,
just like they would in the wild.
Um, they eat all fresh produce,so fresh vegetables, fresh
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fruit.
They also love mealworms andcrickets and, um, you know, they
poop all the time.
So, yeah yeah, got lots oflittle pellets to always clean
up.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
We have our garage built out for them as far as a
full enclosure.
They live inside, they runaround the house.
Tony, I'll even say last night,didn't go to bed until 3 or 4
o'clock in the morning becauseshe was snuggling with a
squirrel on the couch.
It's beyond spoiled on thecouch.
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So you know, like it's beyondspoiled is the problem.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, that's dedication, you know.
Yeah, they're like your family.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, they're our babies, for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So yeah, squirrels have different personalities.
For people out there that maythink it's AI or something, Tell
us about any funny orsurprising stories that happens
during performances.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Well, Trio likes to chew the rope.
The black, white and brownsquirrel, that's Trio, because
he's one years old and he's justlearned this year how to water
ski.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
he's been doing this one, one leg up and in the air,
chewing the toe rope um andhe'll jump like 10 feet
sometimes and like I have tocatch him in the middle of the
show because he has a big jumpyeah, the baby likes to go
swimming in shows.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But yeah, if she doesn't want to water ski, she
will jump off the skis and swimback to mom.
She, she knows like, hey, I'mdone yeah um, twiglet, she's, uh
, seven years old, so she's verychill.
She'll just sit there and likegroom herself.
Um, she's, yeah, she's chill,yeah, she's chill, yeah, yeah,
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she's good.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Then there's a setup and breakdown on a typical show.
What is that like for you guys?
It was a lot of work there,probably, right?
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean it's a 20 by 20 foot pool that we carry in
the trailer and have to set thatup, drain the pool after every
show and you know just basicallyput that together, put the
sound system up and and we'reready to go.
For the most part, I mean it'sa lot of work but it's about an
hour or two to set up and thenyou know a couple hours to tear
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down after every show well, andthen you're waiting for water.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That water could take like four hours depending on
their water pressure.
That's not fun.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do you guys have the RV and trailer pinstriped?
No?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Just a squirrel on the trailer.
That's pretty much it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's wrapped with pictures of the squirrel and the
logo.
We're getting people honkingand the logo.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh yeah, we're getting people honking and
raving.
Truckers are always All right,we got to look at them yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
All right, that'll be good.
So now the next segment isEnter Hollywood, the trucking
legend.
We got Tony back there.
He's hanging out, he's enjoyingthis here in the labs, and also
known as Hollywood.
Welcome to the show.
How are you doing, thank?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
you?
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Pretty good.
Thank you for your patience.
I know you got a lot to say,man.
You've been seeing a lot ofthings out there on the road.
Let's talk about the chromelights and the name Hollywood.
Where did you get that name?
That's a cool name.
Where did you get that?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
from.
I had a friend of mine and heworked for a company on Long
Island, new York.
I used to hang out with him andmet his boss.
We became very close to eachother and he always said hey, do
me a favor, run out to thepotato farm, pick up a load of
potatoes and bring them back.
Well, when it comes time to, hewanted to pay me.
I said don't worry about it,it's a favor, don't worry about
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it like that.
He goes.
Well, if you ever needsomething, let me know.
So one time I needed a job.
He hired me sight unseen and hegave me this truck.
I don't know if you're familiarwith the movie White Line Fever.
That light dodge goes flyingthrough the sign.
You better get to find thatmovie and look at it.
Well, the truck he gave me todrive it had more holes than
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Swiss cheese and I just wentfrom Long Island to Chicago, to
Miami, back up to Long Islandand he says no cream puff, but
buy your time.
About six months later hebought four brand new on respect
out double wide cat, uh kdw cabovers with great dave beef is
the whole nine yards.
So they said go in the yard andpick one.
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So I picked that one.
He said this is your truck.
So my first months were to pay.
I went to his parts house andordered all chrome for that
truck and every time he had anew account.
My truck went and got the firstload and that's where the name
Hollywood came in.
It looked like it came fromHollywood, california.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
That's legit.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It pretty is Mine.
Went to a company truck and itpaid for it.
You know what I mean.
Went to a company truck and itit paid for it.
You know I mean it.
The reputation I had out therewith everybody on long island,
new jersey, up and down 95.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I was well known wow man, nothing like a cool trucker
man.
I appreciate you coming on theshow.
Uh, what was your favorite uhtruck you ever owned?
Was it that one you talkedabout, or was there?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
no, that was a company truck you ever owned.
Was it that one that you talkedabout?
No, that was a company truck.
His truck, my favorite truck.
I had purchased a 2001Freightliner Classic extended
cab, extended nose, 280-inchwheelbase, polished aluminum
tanks, running boards uh,battery boxes, everything you
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name it.
It was on that truck and fromthat point I put some money into
the truck all the time and Icame up two steps from being a
show truck.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Nice, wow, that's great.
Um, that's like a dream of mineas well to get truck to that.
Yeah, that's great.
That's like a dream of mine aswell to get trucked to that yeah
, that's great.
So, yeah, trucking has changeda lot over the decades.
What is it like for you in theearly years compared to what you
see now out there on the road?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Oh boy, you're talking about black and white.
When I first started back in 75, there was no such thing as
power steering.
You had big biceps and that wasyour power steering.
They started experimenting withair assist power steering,
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making it more maneuverable intight spots, and front brakes
were an option if you bought atruck.
Back then the truck I drove wasall the brakes from the rear
end, the two-drive axles likethat.
Between then and now it's allbells and whistles.
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Technology on the engines getbetter performance, better fuel
mileage, all preachy feasts likethat.
Every truck I had was air rideall the way around, front axle,
everything.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I love the bells and whistles, what you guys call the
bling today well, and I thinkeven too, back then you had to
do the paper logs, and noweverything is computerized now.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yes, paper logs.
Back then with the books,Everybody I knew had two or
three books going on at the sametime.
Hello, here's one of them andyou're sitting pulling the
trucks up and going to sleep.
You had to take care of allthese three books and bring them
up to date, so to speak.
You know what I mean.
And once you got stopped by aDOT, you had to make sure he
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wasn't watching and give him theright book.
That's tricks of the trade.
And even with the DOT, theroutes I used to take constantly
, I became a lot of good friendswith all of them.
As my wife would say.
I got so many tickets in everystate I drove through.
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She could pay for the bathroomwith the tickets.
I call making donations.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's pretty good, I love that.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
A lot of good times, a lot of fun.
It's not like it is today.
Can't make no money today, youknow 10 hours on, 10 hours off.
I never heard of such a thing.
You got tired, pulled over fortwo or three hours, took a nap
and got back on the road again.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
You know, I mean, we used to go from Long Island, new
York, down to Miami overnight.
Wow, like that, got tired cupof coffee.
Some people had custom madeexcedrin pills, all tricks in
the trade.
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You know it, you heard about it.
They make it to Miami nextmorning, but my boss paid dearly
for it.
There, make it to Miami nextmorning, my boss paid dearly for
it.
There's a bonus like that.
That was the name of the game.
The old dollar sign.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I heard guys, when they get there they get a bag of
money just thrown at them.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I got more than a bag sometimes.
What's that?
I got more than a bag sometimes.
You're going to like adisclaimer warning sign on this
episode it was good.
Um, I don't knock my um career.
I've been to a lot of placeswhere you don't even know exists
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like that, especially with nasa.
I've been to initial sites outin new mexico and if you were
out there with your car youwould think it's nothing but a
flat ground with a bunch ofcactus and bushes on it.
It's more than what meets theeye, that you cannot see maybe
he's got another good question.
(18:23):
But been in a lot of places, gota lot of education out there.
You know constantly askingquestions about other people,
what they do, learning fromtheir point and like that.
But today's working conditionsnah, I'm glad I got out of it
Now.
I heard you go pull some trucksup.
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They could check your air andyour tires and stuff like that.
Well, that's yourresponsibility when you leave
the yard.
Now the government has gottenin the way to make an extra
dollar and it's going to costyou an extra dollar because you
get pulled over, you have airpressure and everything.
So that's flat.
Now they've got to call a towtruck, air you up.
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He's going to get part of it adollar off of you and the way he
says he's going to give you aticket for having low air
pressure.
So the only person who wins isthose two and you have to dig it
into your pocket again, asusual.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, I can see those computer systems.
They're automated.
They can tell if there'sdifferent tread or different
types of tires on a trailer.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Well, my safety advisor.
He said these things can makeyou or break you Like that.
And he was right.
If you know how to work withinthe company walls, you get ahead
of the game within your company.
If you know how to work withinthe company walls, you get ahead
of the game within your company.
If you try to work outside thefour walls, you're going to get
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in trouble left or right.
So my savior was always mysafety director and my
dispatcher Right.
Yeah, keeping thoserelationships with them oh and
they, you know, if you do them asolid favor, they never forget.
Hey, tony, I got this load,this load and this load, which
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one do you want?
I always took the lightest andthe furthest away.
You know why.
Go down the road with 43,000,44,000 pounds in a trailer and
get paid the same as you took a10,000 pound load down the road
with 43, 44,000 pounds in atrailer and get paid the same as
you took a 10,000 pound loaddown the road.
You're spending less with a10,000, you put more in the tank
with a 44,000.
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So that's the other thing yougot to be smart about.
You know how your money isspent.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Very good, very good advice.
You got a story you want totell, maybe something that's
wild, that happened for one time.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I delivered furniture for the majority of my career,
my life and had a lot of goodcustomers all females like that
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and the one trip that stands outthe most I had my daughter walk
with me and we stopped to eatsomewhere and she got nauseous
and she cleaned out the insideof my truck on her own vomit.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I threw up all on the inside of the truck Because
when I was younger, when we hadno school for the summer, we
used to because I have two oldersisters as well we used to, you
know, take turns and go on theroad with my dad for the summer,
and it was KFC and I threw upmy KFC all.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
In kfc they had a buffet type get place and I got
yelled at so this happened again, actually a couple years ago,
with twiggy oh, we had texasroadhouse.
I had texas roadhouse and hadfood poisoning and we're stuck
in a pilot for the whole day.
We're in Alabama on our way toBirmingham and we had to be in
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our mobile.
We had to be in mobile that daybut she's stuck going into the
shower and yeah, everywhere.
So that's an ongoing pattern.
I didn't know about this.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
She kept apologizing and oh dad, I'm dad, I'm sorry.
I went to the first truck stopand she puked on the window.
On the inside of the window itran in the door.
I just took the garden hose andflushed it out.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's a good thing.
I didn't mess up any of thechrome on the outside.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
It is what it is Like .
They say shit happens.
Oh, wow, A lot of good memories, Even with the police.
A lot of good times with thepolice In Florida.
I had that truck I was tellingyou about before.
I had a bug shield on the front.
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It had Hollywood and chromeletters on it.
I pull on the scale and go havea tap on me.
Hollywood, Go ahead, you'regood.
Every time I went to a DOTinspection my truck was clean
under the hood, inside the hood,no matter where you wiped your
finger, you got nothing.
And the DOTs used to say, allright, let's pop that hood, I'd
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pick up maybe a foot off thetires, close it.
Let me see your logbook.
Look at my logbook.
Nice and neat.
Have a nice day.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Wow, that's beautiful .
Yeah, if you take care of yourstuff, it takes care of you.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
That's it.
You got to treat your stuff theway it treats you back.
You don't take care of it, itain't gonna take care of you.
I learned that from a couple ofDOT inspectors I met on the
road.
Constantly my safety ruleadvisor would come up with this
new rule, try to put it intoplay, and I would say to him no,
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this doesn't sound right, thislaw that you tell me about.
So I said I'm going to have itchecked out.
He goes.
Who are you going to talk to?
I said my friends at the scaleDOT.
He goes.
Well, I'm telling you no, dot isgoing to write me a ticket.
If I listen to you, if I don'tlisten to you, you're going to
smack me on the hand.
So, listen to you, you smack meon the hand.
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So who do I listen to?
Dot, and I come back withpaperwork and saying that his
rule was obsolete or whatever.
Just a company flipped thepolicy.
And I go to him.
Here's your paper from DOT.
Have a nice day and I just goabout my business.
But I never got in trouble,never, never, ever.
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That's good, that's good.
You know how to about mybusiness.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
But I never got in trouble, never, never, ever.
That's good.
That's good, you know how tohandle your business.
That's amazing, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Once you become an owner operator which I was for
90% of my career you have to.
You have to watch how you spendyour money.
You know all your P's and Q's,how to stretch a dollar into a
$2 thing.
My wife had that job and shedid a good job of that and I
brought my paycheck home, neversaw it.
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She got it, she had to dealwith it.
And here comes Sunday morning,sunday afternoon, back on the
road again delivering furnitureand I'd stay out all week long,
maybe come home for about 24hours and go back out again.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You got Twiggy over there.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, brought a treat .
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh man, there he is, say hi, say hi.
He knew I waved.
Yeah, that's awesome.
You got a favorite route thatyou like or a region that you
like to go through.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Well, when I started doing furniture, I was running
from Long Island, new York, toNorth Carolina High Point that's
the furniture capital of theworld.
And then we decided to move toFlorida, still with the same
company, but I ran from NorthCarolina down to Florida and
that petered out after a while.
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I was doing too big of an areato cover from North Carolina
down to Florida and that peteredout after a while.
I was doing too big of an areato cover, taking me more time to
do it.
So I was losing a trip a week.
So I made a complaint aboutthat and he says well, you know,
this is the way it is.
You know, you could.
You know what?
I came looking, I'll leavelooking, I'll be in a job in
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five minutes if I leave.
Well, that's okay, you know, wewant you to stay this and that.
And they folded up and I went toanother company that my friends
worked at and I stood there forthe remainder of my career, up
and down 95, uh, 24, 77, 77, 85,all up.
That way it was great.
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I had a good thing going doingfurniture and nobody bothered me
.
I did my job well.
Customers called in, they usedto compliment about my services
to them and when they got newline of furniture I didn't have
to ask for it, it automaticallywent to my company.
That's how my paycheck used toget bigger and bigger and bigger
(27:16):
.
I had control of my own earnings, like that, if I didn't want to
load more, my dispatcher wouldsay I got a good load here, but
it's a good load more.
But you could load more stopsor give a cheap load one or two
stops.
I said I'll take the 20-stopand get 20 stops pumped off in
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about a day and a half.
My 10 little fingers.
Here was a forklift.
That's awesome.
You want to load furniture byhand, no machine, and it's a
floor load.
Pop the bottom, wall to wall,front to back.
It's like a puzzle.
You can't even get your handinside the boxes sometimes.
Wow yeah, but you work hard andyou smile all the way to the
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bank.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Nice, you got a favorite truck stop.
Truck stops got their ownculture.
What's a stop that you like tostop when you're out there?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Well, the one I was trying to exit 10 in George,
that was a Flying J.
I didn't really spend time in atruck stop just to stop, get
fuel, keep going both comingnorth and going south, same
truck stop all the time.
I had a nice reputation withthe managers of that truck stop
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and I've always parked at mycustomers' place of business.
Places were big enough for atrailer to fit in there and they
didn't have to worry aboutsomebody mugging me or robbing
me.
I was right there at the storeand playing side of the police
when they come by, so I neverhad to worry about anything like
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that, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
What lessons did trucking teach you to stick with
you today that maybe you canshare with people?
That hey, you know there's alot about trucking that helps
you each day.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yes, and the most thing today I see is people are
ready to do this without doingnothing for it.
They want to get paid everyFriday but they don't want to
work for it.
You can't.
If you lease on to a company,you have to give yourself time
to see if the company is rightfor you, or to keep moving, or
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you stay, and you're not goingto find that out in a month's
time.
You're going to find out inabout four, five, six months
down the line If this is theright thing for you or it's time
to move on.
And my luck in the past thefurniture.
My friend said when I got thejob you're going to work your
ass off, but I guarantee youyou're going to smile all the
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way to the bank.
And he was right.
I've been doing it ever since.
I have a nice big house.
I've raised three kids.
My wife had a car every fouryears.
I traded my truck every fouryears.
My accountant told me stopputting money into it.
That word warranty runs out.
Get rid of it, buy another one.
That's what I did Amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I got the father-daughter legacy.
Tony grew up with you as a dad.
On the road Looks like therewas more than just one daughter.
What was it like for Tony orfor you guys as a young one?
Any memories waiting for?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yeah, it was tough for them because Let me grab
Tony real quick.
Hold on, I was always busymaking a living.
You know, if my dispatcher saidare you going home this weekend
, what do you got going?
I got loads.
It's going to go down to Miamifirst thing Saturday morning.
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It pays you $1,500.
I'll kick another two if youwant to take it.
The only thing I had going onthat weekend was maybe it was
Tony Reeves' birthday.
Well, the only thing I hadgoing on that weekend was maybe
it was Tony Reed's birthday.
Well, unfortunately my billscome first.
So I did the load, made $1,500in an overnight time and I spent
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a happy birthday the followingweekend.
You know what I mean and it'sbeen like that.
I mean I was home Christmas,thanksgiving, every weekend, but
for the majority of the timeher and her girlfriends not her,
but her girlfriends, don't youhave a father?
He's never home.
You know, my job was to providefor my family and they had new
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dresses every occasion they had.
My refrigerator was always full, the lights turned on, nice air
conditioning, cool in thebackyard.
Like I said, everybody wastaken care of the right way.
You know what I mean.
So I gave up a lot so they canhave.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
What was it like for you, Tony?
You said you had two othersisters.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, I have two older sisters.
So I think, basically, goingoff of what my dad just said, is
you know when those specialoccasions did come around.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You know and you want your dad to be and and he's not
there.
That that's definitely hard um,some of the fun things were.
He's not there let's have fun.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I remember when I was little he um got to bring home
an extra like case or a palletof yoohoo.
That was my favorite thing, allthe extra like junk food stuff
that we would get um when I waslittle and then definitely like
going on the road um in thesummers.
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That was fun.
I don't know what kind of truckit was, but it had the hump in
the middle of like the driver'sseat in the passenger, so we
used to get to like sit on thehump and like sit next to dad
and you know at the time it waslike the shifter there too, so
it was like cool, to like beshifting Cabover KW.
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Just a lot of like cool memories.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
you know joking around because he had bunk beds,
so just to like joke aroundwhen I had my own trucks, when
they had like a car washfundraiser like that, yes, I'd
bring the truck down.
I already cleaned it in mydriveway, so they had just the
(33:44):
water on it and I'd chip in 50bucks or more.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That was like the coolest, like brag moment, you
know, at the school.
We would have, you know, theschool fundraisers, you know,
for a car wash and we'd be likedad, can you come down with your
semi?
And he would pull up and allthe kids would be like whoa, and
I'd be like that's my dad, sothat yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
And I flipped out a $50 bill or more like that to
give to the kids.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I broke my ass cleaning before they did.
That was fun.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Your dad's work ethic , trucking lifestyle.
Did it shape your approach withthe Twiggy Show, or at least
for life today?
What was it like for you andyour sisters approach with the
Twiggy show or at?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
least for life today.
What was it like for you?
Yeah, so definitely instilledvery hard work ethic in me, you
know, just to see my dad outthere doing it all all day,
every day.
You know that that does, youknow, have a very huge impact
and it creates hard work ethicand doing doing it with twiggy.
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Now I've learned to becomfortable with staying put in
a small enclosure well, I keptbecause, and well you, you're a
driver.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
you know how big is a from behind your driver's seat
to the wall behind your bed.
How deep is that?
How wide is that?
Five by eight, five by seven,that's what you lived in.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Have you on this.
You don't put nothing in, youdon't get nothing out.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
It's what you put into.
It Determines what you get outof it, oh, for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Nice Now.
You guys are doing a great joband I'm so happy I got to be a
you see my name on it At theFather's Day moment.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
That's great.
So have you ever met someone onthe road who recognized you as
Twiggy's dad or made aconnection between the two
careers?
Or did you just always have toexplain it to people?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Well, you've been retired.
For what?
Five years?
Now six years now Since 20.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, so five years yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
And then I started doing Twiggy with Chuck in 2021.
So nobody's ever recognizedlike for the both of us.
Twiggy with Chuck in 2021.
Nobody's ever recognized forthe both of us.
But I mean just in the sense ofpulling down the road in the RV
and trailer.
We get recognized all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, hey, I'm glad I was able to put this show
together.
Many people connect the dotswith Hollywood and Twiggy and
the beautiful story that youguys have put together.
But by just letting people knowabout your lives and and
connecting with people out thereon the road, I mean that's a
that's a that's a lot nowadayswhen people they're so distant
or they're stuck on their phone.
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But knowing the story behindwhat makes great lives or makes
people.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
If I can cut in a lot of these companies going out of
business because of a generalcommodities company like
Schneider, jb Hunt, all thoseguys like that, I call them
turnstile companies.
As many people come in, excuseme, as many people quit, that's
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how many people come in.
And JB Hunt had once said if Imake a dollar profit on every
load I take out, I'm amillionaire.
Well, that's not good for theeconomy because he couldn't give
two hoots on his profit.
You know what I mean theeconomy because he couldn't give
two hoots on his profit.
You know what I mean For peopleto work for general commodities
(37:35):
.
You're stuck to that type offreight.
Furniture is a specializedcommodity.
It pays more, it costs more todo, liability is more and you're
going to make more as a driver.
I would go for a company thatspecializes in some, not just
working for Schneider, somebodylike that.
(37:56):
You know what I mean I'mcalling truck stop companies.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I like it.
That's great advice.
Try and prepare you for any way, maybe for the second life
touring with Twiggy supportingTony or connecting with fans
face-to-face.
Any final thoughts?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
No, I wish her the best.
Look what she wants to dosupporting Tony or connecting
with fans face to face.
Any final thoughts?
No, I wish her the best.
Look what she wants to do.
I'm always for her and you knowI support her as best I can.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yes, I do make fun of her.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Sometimes she makes fun of me right back, and it's
just a good good thing.
It's nothing terrible about it.
We just that's the way we are.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Giving each other a hard time all the time, oh,
constantly.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
And if this is what she wants to do with the rest of
her life, god bless her.
I'm glad I'm done with thattype of life because now I can
drive my car 35 miles an hourdown the street instead of
somebody saying to me hurry up,you got to get there by tomorrow
morning, so the speed limit is50.
You can do 80.
You know what I mean.
Like that I can drive like ahuman being.
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Now, stop for a stop sign.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Oh man, so for you guys, even for the Twiggy show,
any tricks that you guys areworking on, any projects.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
I guess the only thing would be getting Trio
fully trained.
Some upcoming projects we haveour Club Twiggy cartoon out on
YouTube, so just getting thatpushed out.
I know, I know Trio's gettingdistracted with the computer, so
(39:44):
, yeah, just getting our cartoonout.
We're in the process of gettingsome more merch.
Yeah, I mean, there's alwayssomething to do, right.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
How much work goes into the cartoon.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Oh, lots of work, chuck, you want to elaborate on
that?
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Pete on the table.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Go, go, go, go go.
I'm going to put him up.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, go ahead.
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
Yeah, just leave it.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Well, so as far as the cartoon, yeah, so it's all
AI generated.
Actually, I've got a friend ofmine that's been able to design
it using all AI, which is crazy.
I mean, in the beginning it wasa lot harder because AI wasn't
quite there, but as far as nowit's gotten, gotten easier to
(40:39):
make.
But he's putting about 40 hoursa week into each episode um
launching.
Yeah, so it's, it's a lot ofwork, but everything from the
music from the the, all thecharacters, all of the
background, everything is all aigenerated that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, I like.
I think it looks great, it'ssharp.
Yeah, we'll keep putting theword out.
I'll put the link out there toofor you guys.
We can also help each other andspread that awareness to the
Twiggy show or to trucking.
It's also pivotal, you know,making these truck stops, all
these connections, learning fromeach other and just making each
(41:19):
other smile and be happy.
I think that's uh, I thinkthat's huge man.
It made me, made me smile whenI knew you were right here at
the mall of america and I had anopportunity, I had the time to
actually go and watch the show.
So I had a blast.
My daughter had a great time aswell too awesome.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, no, I think that's a fun thing is like,
cause we kind of live at truckstops.
All the truckers are always,you know, loving what we do and
you know, always askingquestions and it gets into long
conversations and uh, but weenjoy what we do, we're, we're
living on the road, just, youknow, one day at a time.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So Wow, awesome.
Thank you guys.
Um, and for all of you guys outfor everyone on this, one
message or lesson I hope thatpeople take away is to see when
can they see Twiggy perform?
What's the next show?
Or you find a schedule.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah, we do post our schedule on our website.
It's twiggyshowcom and we alsopost it on our social media.
And our handle is at Twiggyshowcom and we also post it on
our social media.
Uh, and our handle is at twiggyshow nice and um.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Do you guys help people?
What's the mission with theshow?
Uh, what's what's the lesson?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
so my dad lost his life in a boating accident in 97
um.
So my mom put a life jacket onthe squirrel and then we are now
recognized by the National SafeBoating Council and the Coast
Guard as the spokes animal forwater safety.
So basically we're we're therepromoting water safety to
everyone around the world, tomake sure what happened with my
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dad doesn't happen to anybodyelse.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Thank you.
I want to make sure I got thatin there, yeah, because, yeah,
you guys do a great job withthat and I'm sorry for the loss.
Man, it's uh.
Losing a parent is hard.
Losing anyone that that we loveis hard.
So in the truck industry, a lotof people are affected by lives
on the road and also out offthe road.
So we all got to be safe so wecan get home back to our loved
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ones.
So, yeah, just kind of signingout there.
There you have it.
You got Chrome, you got passion, you got family creativity, you
got the squirrels, I mean man.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
And a whole lot of nuts.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Definitely in the house, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Thank you, so I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Oh, man, man, so a big thank you to you, uh, chuck,
tony and the one and onlyhollywood.
Thank you for sharing yourstories and your advice, your
insight and also that compassionthat you guys have for each
other.
Man, it's uh amazing.
Keep that going.
That family ties, and, um, Ithink that's beautiful.
We all need a lot more of thatin the world.
So, keep, keep that going,spread that energy.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Yeah, thank you for having me come on and talk my
little side of the episode overhere.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
They were warming you up.
You're the headliner.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
They were buttering you up for an hour before you
came on.
Nice, nice they were butteringup for an hour before you came
on nice nice, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
All right, uh, so to catch twiggy on the show, uh, in
person, or learn more?
Uh, check out the episode notes.
We'll put that in there.
And until next time, keep thosewheels turning, wheels running
and keep making memories on andoff the road.
And that's Delivered.
what do you get?
When you mix a legendarytrucker known as hollywood and a
family legacy of squirreltraining a show that's been
making waves literally fordecades you get one of the most
unique episodes you've ever hadon that's delivered podcast and
I'm your host, trucking ray, andtoday we have a wild and fun,
heart heartwarming episode foryou guys.
I met Chuck and Tony at theMall of America while watching
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one of the most memorable showsI've ever seen, a water skiing
squirrel named Twiggy anddefinitely made a great
impression.
I had to have them on the show.
And that's not all.
I was also joined by Tony heretoday, with Tony's dad, known on
the road as Hollywood.
His truck always has had chromelights, and the presence has
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made people stop and stare, andthe story of an over-the-road
truck driver is one worthhearing, especially when you
hear how he shaped hisdaughter's journey too.
So let's dive in Chuck, tonyand also Hollywood.
We got you guys on the show.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, definitely Always a good time.
Awesome man.
You know you guys started outwith a great show.
I got to meet you guys andlet's start with the Twiggy Show
.
Help people understand whatthat's about, how it originated,
how it came to life.
It's not just every day you seesomeone wakes up and decides to
(01:36):
teach squirrels to water ski.
How do you guys get thatstarted?
What was the story behind it?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Oh man.
Well, the story actuallystarted back in 1978 all as a
joke by my dad.
Um, he basically had a petsquirrel and decided to teach it
how to water ski, just to,basically as as a bet to his
friend.
And um, he ended up doing it,put the squirrel on water skis
(02:02):
as a joke and it got famousovernight.
And then all of a sudden, in1979, september 21st, he did his
very first show with my mom.
It was my mom and my dad.
They traveled around fromMinneapolis, st Paul, actually
in September of 79, and thenbasically continued that legacy
(02:24):
on.
And here we are, 46 years later.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Wow, amazing.
I mean, those guys are adorable.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They're a little nuts sometimes, but you know.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh man.
So what's the story behind thename Twiggy?
Maybe help people understandwhy you picked that one.
I'll let you answer that one.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So Chuck's mom Luann she had a bunch of houseplants
and their pet squirrel at thetime had the run of the house
and the squirrel would chew allthe leaves off of the
houseplants left nothing elsebut twigs, hence the name Twiggy
love it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Uh also see you know people.
You see people's reactions.
Um, when they see your show forthe first time, uh, did people
believe what they were seeing?
Uh, how did?
What were the reactions?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
not on the internet.
They think it's all ai, yeah,they think it's ai on social
media.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So it's actually it's really fun to see.
You know, kids are always goingto laugh and smile and enjoy
their time.
I think the biggest like thrillfor me is seeing the adults
reaction, because we have gotten, you know, like a 40, 50 year
old guy rolling on the floorlaughing.
He was so in shock, um, and Ithink, uh, even people who want
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to participate so badly theadults and they jump in the pool
because they are like I don'tknow shocked by how cute twiggy
is and and they want to be apart of the show.
So it's really awesome to havethe adults reaction.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So like it's off the charts it's always different.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, definitely yeah , when I was there I was like
man.
You guys get quite a variety ofreactions.
I can tell, wow, that's amazing.
So life on the road too, whatis that?
Like you know, I can imaginetraveling with train swirls is a
unique kind of touring life.
And can you give us behind thescenes of what it looks like on
the road for you guys?
I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
for the most part.
I mean a lot of times we haveor booked every week so we're
traveling from show to show, butwe I mean we're living at truck
stops, to be honest, flying J'sand pilots that loves, you know
.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Tnas, that's basically our life, you know we
drive a 31 foot RV and we pull a12 foot trailer behind it.
So you know, as as in thetrucker world, you know, not
everybody has enough space or isas accommodating when you're of
that size, even though we'renot as big as you truckers, but
(05:09):
still, we still have our issueswith getting around and we've
been kicked out of bucky's andall the you know walmart yeah
walmart's.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Uh, you know you have to find a place to sleep,
especially.
I mean, sometimes you'redriving till three, four am and
if you wait till past 8, 9o'clock you ain't finding a spot
sometimes.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And I have yelled at him a couple of times.
When we're at a truck stop I'mlike let's just keep driving,
Let the truckers park.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It gets us going.
But yeah, so that's.
You know, we pretty much showto show, we live in the RV, you
know, at truck stops basically,and then, once we get to the
destination, we're able to livein a hotel, luckily, so get a
little space and a good shower,even though you know we do love
(06:04):
our pilot showers.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Some of them are really nice.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I can't complain.
She likes the water pressure atthe truck stops better than our
house.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Nice, that's awesome.
What kind of training does itactually take to teach a
squirrel how to water ski?
I think people can be amazedwhen they see the effort that
goes into it.
I mean those guys.
They look so adorable out therebut you can only imagine
there's got to be somefrustration with it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So once you earn their love and trust, just like
any other animal, even like adog, you know, once you earn
their love and trust, it's inthe sense just like training a
dog using the same words,commands, lots of repetition.
You actually even train oursquirrels in the show so the
audience can see it forthemselves.
You know, live and in action,get to participate in that, just
to see.
You know, sometimes they listen, sometimes they don't, and you
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know they they call the shots.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And I think the cool part about it is we're not
training every day, we're nottraining when we're at home, we
just ski once.
They learn it After the firstmonth and they know how to water
ski, it's just we show up.
I mean they could take two,three months off and they come
back and they remember they'rereally smart animals and a lot
of people don't understand howsmart they really are.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Wow.
How do you care for themphysically and emotionally
during the tour?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, so just like how you interact with your cat
or dog.
No worse, I mean yeah, yourdogs are not chewing corners of
the wall and cabinets, no.
So they eat twice a day, in themorning and in the evening,
just like they would in the wild.
Um, they eat all fresh produce,so fresh vegetables, fresh
(08:13):
fruit.
They also love mealworms andcrickets and, um, you know, they
poop all the time.
So, yeah yeah, got lots oflittle pellets to always clean
up.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
We have our garage built out for them as far as a
full enclosure.
They live inside, they runaround the house.
Tony, I'll even say last night,didn't go to bed until 3 or 4
o'clock in the morning becauseshe was snuggling with a
squirrel on the couch.
It's beyond spoiled on thecouch.
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So you know, like it's beyondspoiled is the problem.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, that's dedication, you know.
Yeah, they're like your family.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, they're our babies, for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So yeah, squirrels have different personalities.
For people out there that maythink it's AI or something, Tell
us about any funny orsurprising stories that happens
during performances.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Well, Trio likes to chew the rope.
The black, white and brownsquirrel, that's Trio, because
he's one years old and he's justlearned this year how to water
ski.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
he's been doing this one, one leg up and in the air,
chewing the toe rope um andhe'll jump like 10 feet
sometimes and like I have tocatch him in the middle of the
show because he has a big jumpyeah, the baby likes to go
swimming in shows.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But yeah, if she doesn't want to water ski, she
will jump off the skis and swimback to mom.
She, she knows like, hey, I'mdone yeah um, twiglet, she's, uh
, seven years old, so she's verychill.
She'll just sit there and likegroom herself.
Um, she's, yeah, she's chill,yeah, she's chill, yeah, yeah,
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she's good.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Then there's a setup and breakdown on a typical show.
What is that like for you guys?
It was a lot of work there,probably, right?
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean it's a 20 by 20 foot pool that we carry in
the trailer and have to set thatup, drain the pool after every
show and you know just basicallyput that together, put the
sound system up and and we'reready to go.
For the most part, I mean it'sa lot of work but it's about an
hour or two to set up and thenyou know a couple hours to tear
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down after every show well, andthen you're waiting for water.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That water could take like four hours depending on
their water pressure.
That's not fun.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do you guys have the RV and trailer pinstriped?
No?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Just a squirrel on the trailer.
That's pretty much it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's wrapped with pictures of the squirrel and the
logo.
We're getting people honkingand the logo.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh yeah, we're getting people honking and
raving.
Truckers are always All right,we got to look at them yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
All right, that'll be good.
So now the next segment isEnter Hollywood, the trucking
legend.
We got Tony back there.
He's hanging out, he's enjoyingthis here in the labs, and also
known as Hollywood.
Welcome to the show.
How are you doing, thank?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
you?
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Pretty good.
Thank you for your patience.
I know you got a lot to say,man.
You've been seeing a lot ofthings out there on the road.
Let's talk about the chromelights and the name Hollywood.
Where did you get that name?
That's a cool name.
Where did you get that?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
from.
I had a friend of mine and heworked for a company on Long
Island, new York.
I used to hang out with him andmet his boss.
We became very close to eachother and he always said hey, do
me a favor, run out to thepotato farm, pick up a load of
potatoes and bring them back.
Well, when it comes time to, hewanted to pay me.
I said don't worry about it,it's a favor, don't worry about
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it like that.
He goes.
Well, if you ever needsomething, let me know.
So one time I needed a job.
He hired me sight unseen and hegave me this truck.
I don't know if you're familiarwith the movie White Line Fever.
That light dodge goes flyingthrough the sign.
You better get to find thatmovie and look at it.
Well, the truck he gave me todrive it had more holes than
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Swiss cheese and I just wentfrom Long Island to Chicago, to
Miami, back up to Long Islandand he says no cream puff, but
buy your time.
About six months later hebought four brand new on respect
out double wide cat, uh kdw cabovers with great dave beef is
the whole nine yards.
So they said go in the yard andpick one.
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So I picked that one.
He said this is your truck.
So my first months were to pay.
I went to his parts house andordered all chrome for that
truck and every time he had anew account.
My truck went and got the firstload and that's where the name
Hollywood came in.
It looked like it came fromHollywood, california.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
That's legit.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It pretty is Mine.
Went to a company truck and itpaid for it.
You know what I mean.
Went to a company truck and itit paid for it.
You know I mean it.
The reputation I had out therewith everybody on long island,
new jersey, up and down 95.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I was well known wow man, nothing like a cool trucker
man.
I appreciate you coming on theshow.
Uh, what was your favorite uhtruck you ever owned?
Was it that one you talkedabout, or was there?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
no, that was a company truck you ever owned.
Was it that one that you talkedabout?
No, that was a company truck.
His truck, my favorite truck.
I had purchased a 2001Freightliner Classic extended
cab, extended nose, 280-inchwheelbase, polished aluminum
tanks, running boards uh,battery boxes, everything you
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name it.
It was on that truck and fromthat point I put some money into
the truck all the time and Icame up two steps from being a
show truck.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Nice, wow, that's great.
Um, that's like a dream of mineas well to get truck to that.
Yeah, that's great.
That's like a dream of mine aswell to get trucked to that yeah
, that's great.
So, yeah, trucking has changeda lot over the decades.
What is it like for you in theearly years compared to what you
see now out there on the road?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Oh boy, you're talking about black and white.
When I first started back in 75, there was no such thing as
power steering.
You had big biceps and that wasyour power steering.
They started experimenting withair assist power steering,
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making it more maneuverable intight spots, and front brakes
were an option if you bought atruck.
Back then the truck I drove wasall the brakes from the rear
end, the two-drive axles likethat.
Between then and now it's allbells and whistles.
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Technology on the engines getbetter performance, better fuel
mileage, all preachy feasts likethat.
Every truck I had was air rideall the way around, front axle,
everything.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I love the bells and whistles, what you guys call the
bling today well, and I thinkeven too, back then you had to
do the paper logs, and noweverything is computerized now.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yes, paper logs.
Back then with the books,Everybody I knew had two or
three books going on at the sametime.
Hello, here's one of them andyou're sitting pulling the
trucks up and going to sleep.
You had to take care of allthese three books and bring them
up to date, so to speak.
You know what I mean.
And once you got stopped by aDOT, you had to make sure he
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wasn't watching and give him theright book.
That's tricks of the trade.
And even with the DOT, theroutes I used to take constantly
, I became a lot of good friendswith all of them.
As my wife would say.
I got so many tickets in everystate I drove through.
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She could pay for the bathroomwith the tickets.
I call making donations.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's pretty good, I love that.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
A lot of good times, a lot of fun.
It's not like it is today.
Can't make no money today, youknow 10 hours on, 10 hours off.
I never heard of such a thing.
You got tired, pulled over fortwo or three hours, took a nap
and got back on the road again.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
You know, I mean, we used to go from Long Island, new
York, down to Miami overnight.
Wow, like that, got tired cupof coffee.
Some people had custom madeexcedrin pills, all tricks in
the trade.
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You know it, you heard about it.
They make it to Miami nextmorning, but my boss paid dearly
for it.
There, make it to Miami nextmorning, my boss paid dearly for
it.
There's a bonus like that.
That was the name of the game.
The old dollar sign.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I heard guys, when they get there they get a bag of
money just thrown at them.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I got more than a bag sometimes.
What's that?
I got more than a bag sometimes.
You're going to like adisclaimer warning sign on this
episode it was good.
Um, I don't knock my um career.
I've been to a lot of placeswhere you don't even know exists
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like that, especially with nasa.
I've been to initial sites outin new mexico and if you were
out there with your car youwould think it's nothing but a
flat ground with a bunch ofcactus and bushes on it.
It's more than what meets theeye, that you cannot see maybe
he's got another good question.
(18:23):
But been in a lot of places, gota lot of education out there.
You know constantly askingquestions about other people,
what they do, learning fromtheir point and like that.
But today's working conditionsnah, I'm glad I got out of it
Now.
I heard you go pull some trucksup.
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They could check your air andyour tires and stuff like that.
Well, that's yourresponsibility when you leave
the yard.
Now the government has gottenin the way to make an extra
dollar and it's going to costyou an extra dollar because you
get pulled over, you have airpressure and everything.
So that's flat.
Now they've got to call a towtruck, air you up.
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He's going to get part of it adollar off of you and the way he
says he's going to give you aticket for having low air
pressure.
So the only person who wins isthose two and you have to dig it
into your pocket again, asusual.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, I can see those computer systems.
They're automated.
They can tell if there'sdifferent tread or different
types of tires on a trailer.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Well, my safety advisor.
He said these things can makeyou or break you Like that.
And he was right.
If you know how to work withinthe company walls, you get ahead
of the game within your company.
If you know how to work withinthe company walls, you get ahead
of the game within your company.
If you try to work outside thefour walls, you're going to get
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in trouble left or right.
So my savior was always mysafety director and my
dispatcher Right.
Yeah, keeping thoserelationships with them oh and
they, you know, if you do them asolid favor, they never forget.
Hey, tony, I got this load,this load and this load, which
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one do you want?
I always took the lightest andthe furthest away.
You know why.
Go down the road with 43,000,44,000 pounds in a trailer and
get paid the same as you took a10,000 pound load down the road
with 43, 44,000 pounds in atrailer and get paid the same as
you took a 10,000 pound loaddown the road.
You're spending less with a10,000, you put more in the tank
with a 44,000.
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So that's the other thing yougot to be smart about.
You know how your money isspent.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Very good, very good advice.
You got a story you want totell, maybe something that's
wild, that happened for one time.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I delivered furniture for the majority of my career,
my life and had a lot of goodcustomers all females like that
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and the one trip that stands outthe most I had my daughter walk
with me and we stopped to eatsomewhere and she got nauseous
and she cleaned out the insideof my truck on her own vomit.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I threw up all on the inside of the truck Because
when I was younger, when we hadno school for the summer, we
used to because I have two oldersisters as well we used to, you
know, take turns and go on theroad with my dad for the summer,
and it was KFC and I threw upmy KFC all.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
In kfc they had a buffet type get place and I got
yelled at so this happened again, actually a couple years ago,
with twiggy oh, we had texasroadhouse.
I had texas roadhouse and hadfood poisoning and we're stuck
in a pilot for the whole day.
We're in Alabama on our way toBirmingham and we had to be in
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our mobile.
We had to be in mobile that daybut she's stuck going into the
shower and yeah, everywhere.
So that's an ongoing pattern.
I didn't know about this.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
She kept apologizing and oh dad, I'm dad, I'm sorry.
I went to the first truck stopand she puked on the window.
On the inside of the window itran in the door.
I just took the garden hose andflushed it out.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's a good thing.
I didn't mess up any of thechrome on the outside.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
It is what it is Like .
They say shit happens.
Oh, wow, A lot of good memories, Even with the police.
A lot of good times with thepolice In Florida.
I had that truck I was tellingyou about before.
I had a bug shield on the front.
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It had Hollywood and chromeletters on it.
I pull on the scale and go havea tap on me.
Hollywood, Go ahead, you'regood.
Every time I went to a DOTinspection my truck was clean
under the hood, inside the hood,no matter where you wiped your
finger, you got nothing.
And the DOTs used to say, allright, let's pop that hood, I'd
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pick up maybe a foot off thetires, close it.
Let me see your logbook.
Look at my logbook.
Nice and neat.
Have a nice day.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Wow, that's beautiful .
Yeah, if you take care of yourstuff, it takes care of you.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
That's it.
You got to treat your stuff theway it treats you back.
You don't take care of it, itain't gonna take care of you.
I learned that from a couple ofDOT inspectors I met on the
road.
Constantly my safety ruleadvisor would come up with this
new rule, try to put it intoplay, and I would say to him no,
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this doesn't sound right, thislaw that you tell me about.
So I said I'm going to have itchecked out.
He goes.
Who are you going to talk to?
I said my friends at the scaleDOT.
He goes.
Well, I'm telling you no, dot isgoing to write me a ticket.
If I listen to you, if I don'tlisten to you, you're going to
smack me on the hand.
So, listen to you, you smack meon the hand.
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So who do I listen to?
Dot, and I come back withpaperwork and saying that his
rule was obsolete or whatever.
Just a company flipped thepolicy.
And I go to him.
Here's your paper from DOT.
Have a nice day and I just goabout my business.
But I never got in trouble,never, never, ever.
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That's good, that's good.
You know how to about mybusiness.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
But I never got in trouble, never, never, ever.
That's good.
That's good, you know how tohandle your business.
That's amazing, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Once you become an owner operator which I was for
90% of my career you have to.
You have to watch how you spendyour money.
You know all your P's and Q's,how to stretch a dollar into a
$2 thing.
My wife had that job and shedid a good job of that and I
brought my paycheck home, neversaw it.
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She got it, she had to dealwith it.
And here comes Sunday morning,sunday afternoon, back on the
road again delivering furnitureand I'd stay out all week long,
maybe come home for about 24hours and go back out again.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You got Twiggy over there.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, brought a treat .
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh man, there he is, say hi, say hi.
He knew I waved.
Yeah, that's awesome.
You got a favorite route thatyou like or a region that you
like to go through.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Well, when I started doing furniture, I was running
from Long Island, new York, toNorth Carolina High Point that's
the furniture capital of theworld.
And then we decided to move toFlorida, still with the same
company, but I ran from NorthCarolina down to Florida and
that petered out after a while.
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I was doing too big of an areato cover from North Carolina
down to Florida and that peteredout after a while.
I was doing too big of an areato cover, taking me more time to
do it.
So I was losing a trip a week.
So I made a complaint aboutthat and he says well, you know,
this is the way it is.
You know, you could.
You know what?
I came looking, I'll leavelooking, I'll be in a job in
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five minutes if I leave.
Well, that's okay, you know, wewant you to stay this and that.
And they folded up and I went toanother company that my friends
worked at and I stood there forthe remainder of my career, up
and down 95, uh, 24, 77, 77, 85,all up.
That way it was great.
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I had a good thing going doingfurniture and nobody bothered me
.
I did my job well.
Customers called in, they usedto compliment about my services
to them and when they got newline of furniture I didn't have
to ask for it, it automaticallywent to my company.
That's how my paycheck used toget bigger and bigger and bigger
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.
I had control of my own earnings, like that, if I didn't want to
load more, my dispatcher wouldsay I got a good load here, but
it's a good load more.
But you could load more stopsor give a cheap load one or two
stops.
I said I'll take the 20-stopand get 20 stops pumped off in
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about a day and a half.
My 10 little fingers.
Here was a forklift.
That's awesome.
You want to load furniture byhand, no machine, and it's a
floor load.
Pop the bottom, wall to wall,front to back.
It's like a puzzle.
You can't even get your handinside the boxes sometimes.
Wow yeah, but you work hard andyou smile all the way to the
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bank.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Nice, you got a favorite truck stop.
Truck stops got their ownculture.
What's a stop that you like tostop when you're out there?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Well, the one I was trying to exit 10 in George,
that was a Flying J.
I didn't really spend time in atruck stop just to stop, get
fuel, keep going both comingnorth and going south, same
truck stop all the time.
I had a nice reputation withthe managers of that truck stop
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and I've always parked at mycustomers' place of business.
Places were big enough for atrailer to fit in there and they
didn't have to worry aboutsomebody mugging me or robbing
me.
I was right there at the storeand playing side of the police
when they come by, so I neverhad to worry about anything like
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that, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
What lessons did trucking teach you to stick with
you today that maybe you canshare with people?
That hey, you know there's alot about trucking that helps
you each day.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yes, and the most thing today I see is people are
ready to do this without doingnothing for it.
They want to get paid everyFriday but they don't want to
work for it.
You can't.
If you lease on to a company,you have to give yourself time
to see if the company is rightfor you, or to keep moving, or
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you stay, and you're not goingto find that out in a month's
time.
You're going to find out inabout four, five, six months
down the line If this is theright thing for you or it's time
to move on.
And my luck in the past thefurniture.
My friend said when I got thejob you're going to work your
ass off, but I guarantee youyou're going to smile all the
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way to the bank.
And he was right.
I've been doing it ever since.
I have a nice big house.
I've raised three kids.
My wife had a car every fouryears.
I traded my truck every fouryears.
My accountant told me stopputting money into it.
That word warranty runs out.
Get rid of it, buy another one.
That's what I did Amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I got the father-daughter legacy.
Tony grew up with you as a dad.
On the road Looks like therewas more than just one daughter.
What was it like for Tony orfor you guys as a young one?
Any memories waiting for?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yeah, it was tough for them because Let me grab
Tony real quick.
Hold on, I was always busymaking a living.
You know, if my dispatcher saidare you going home this weekend
, what do you got going?
I got loads.
It's going to go down to Miamifirst thing Saturday morning.
(30:59):
It pays you $1,500.
I'll kick another two if youwant to take it.
The only thing I had going onthat weekend was maybe it was
Tony Reeves' birthday.
Well, the only thing I hadgoing on that weekend was maybe
it was Tony Reed's birthday.
Well, unfortunately my billscome first.
So I did the load, made $1,500in an overnight time and I spent
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a happy birthday the followingweekend.
You know what I mean and it'sbeen like that.
I mean I was home Christmas,thanksgiving, every weekend, but
for the majority of the timeher and her girlfriends not her,
but her girlfriends, don't youhave a father?
He's never home.
You know, my job was to providefor my family and they had new
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dresses every occasion they had.
My refrigerator was always full, the lights turned on, nice air
conditioning, cool in thebackyard.
Like I said, everybody wastaken care of the right way.
You know what I mean.
So I gave up a lot so they canhave.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
What was it like for you, Tony?
You said you had two othersisters.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, I have two older sisters.
So I think, basically, goingoff of what my dad just said, is
you know when those specialoccasions did come around.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You know and you want your dad to be and and he's not
there.
That that's definitely hard um,some of the fun things were.
He's not there let's have fun.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I remember when I was little he um got to bring home
an extra like case or a palletof yoohoo.
That was my favorite thing, allthe extra like junk food stuff
that we would get um when I waslittle and then definitely like
going on the road um in thesummers.
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That was fun.
I don't know what kind of truckit was, but it had the hump in
the middle of like the driver'sseat in the passenger, so we
used to get to like sit on thehump and like sit next to dad
and you know at the time it waslike the shifter there too, so
it was like cool, to like beshifting Cabover KW.
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Just a lot of like cool memories.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
you know joking around because he had bunk beds,
so just to like joke aroundwhen I had my own trucks, when
they had like a car washfundraiser like that, yes, I'd
bring the truck down.
I already cleaned it in mydriveway, so they had just the
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water on it and I'd chip in 50bucks or more.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That was like the coolest, like brag moment, you
know, at the school.
We would have, you know, theschool fundraisers, you know,
for a car wash and we'd be likedad, can you come down with your
semi?
And he would pull up and allthe kids would be like whoa, and
I'd be like that's my dad, sothat yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
And I flipped out a $50 bill or more like that to
give to the kids.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I broke my ass cleaning before they did.
That was fun.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Your dad's work ethic , trucking lifestyle.
Did it shape your approach withthe Twiggy Show, or at least
for life today?
What was it like for you andyour sisters approach with the
Twiggy show or at?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
least for life today.
What was it like for you?
Yeah, so definitely instilledvery hard work ethic in me, you
know, just to see my dad outthere doing it all all day,
every day.
You know that that does, youknow, have a very huge impact
and it creates hard work ethicand doing doing it with twiggy.
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Now I've learned to becomfortable with staying put in
a small enclosure well, I keptbecause, and well you, you're a
driver.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
you know how big is a from behind your driver's seat
to the wall behind your bed.
How deep is that?
How wide is that?
Five by eight, five by seven,that's what you lived in.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Have you on this.
You don't put nothing in, youdon't get nothing out.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
It's what you put into.
It Determines what you get outof it, oh, for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Nice Now.
You guys are doing a great joband I'm so happy I got to be a
you see my name on it At theFather's Day moment.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
That's great.
So have you ever met someone onthe road who recognized you as
Twiggy's dad or made aconnection between the two
careers?
Or did you just always have toexplain it to people?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Well, you've been retired.
For what?
Five years?
Now six years now Since 20.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, so five years yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
And then I started doing Twiggy with Chuck in 2021.
So nobody's ever recognizedlike for the both of us.
Twiggy with Chuck in 2021.
Nobody's ever recognized forthe both of us.
But I mean just in the sense ofpulling down the road in the RV
and trailer.
We get recognized all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, hey, I'm glad I was able to put this show
together.
Many people connect the dotswith Hollywood and Twiggy and
the beautiful story that youguys have put together.
But by just letting people knowabout your lives and and
connecting with people out thereon the road, I mean that's a
that's a that's a lot nowadayswhen people they're so distant
or they're stuck on their phone.
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But knowing the story behindwhat makes great lives or makes
people.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
If I can cut in a lot of these companies going out of
business because of a generalcommodities company like
Schneider, jb Hunt, all thoseguys like that, I call them
turnstile companies.
As many people come in, excuseme, as many people quit, that's
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how many people come in.
And JB Hunt had once said if Imake a dollar profit on every
load I take out, I'm amillionaire.
Well, that's not good for theeconomy because he couldn't give
two hoots on his profit.
You know what I mean theeconomy because he couldn't give
two hoots on his profit.
You know what I mean For peopleto work for general commodities
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.
You're stuck to that type offreight.
Furniture is a specializedcommodity.
It pays more, it costs more todo, liability is more and you're
going to make more as a driver.
I would go for a company thatspecializes in some, not just
working for Schneider, somebodylike that.
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You know what I mean I'mcalling truck stop companies.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I like it.
That's great advice.
Try and prepare you for any way, maybe for the second life
touring with Twiggy supportingTony or connecting with fans
face-to-face.
Any final thoughts?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
No, I wish her the best.
Look what she wants to dosupporting Tony or connecting
with fans face to face.
Any final thoughts?
No, I wish her the best.
Look what she wants to do.
I'm always for her and you knowI support her as best I can.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yes, I do make fun of her.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Sometimes she makes fun of me right back, and it's
just a good good thing.
It's nothing terrible about it.
We just that's the way we are.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Giving each other a hard time all the time, oh,
constantly.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
And if this is what she wants to do with the rest of
her life, god bless her.
I'm glad I'm done with thattype of life because now I can
drive my car 35 miles an hourdown the street instead of
somebody saying to me hurry up,you got to get there by tomorrow
morning, so the speed limit is50.
You can do 80.
You know what I mean.
Like that I can drive like ahuman being.
(39:04):
Now, stop for a stop sign.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Oh man, so for you guys, even for the Twiggy show,
any tricks that you guys areworking on, any projects.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
I guess the only thing would be getting Trio
fully trained.
Some upcoming projects we haveour Club Twiggy cartoon out on
YouTube, so just getting thatpushed out.
I know, I know Trio's gettingdistracted with the computer, so
(39:44):
, yeah, just getting our cartoonout.
We're in the process of gettingsome more merch.
Yeah, I mean, there's alwayssomething to do, right.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
How much work goes into the cartoon.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Oh, lots of work, chuck, you want to elaborate on
that?
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Pete on the table.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Go, go, go, go go.
I'm going to put him up.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, go ahead.
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
Yeah, just leave it.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Well, so as far as the cartoon, yeah, so it's all
AI generated.
Actually, I've got a friend ofmine that's been able to design
it using all AI, which is crazy.
I mean, in the beginning it wasa lot harder because AI wasn't
quite there, but as far as nowit's gotten, gotten easier to
(40:39):
make.
But he's putting about 40 hoursa week into each episode um
launching.
Yeah, so it's, it's a lot ofwork, but everything from the
music from the the, all thecharacters, all of the
background, everything is all aigenerated that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, I like.
I think it looks great, it'ssharp.
Yeah, we'll keep putting theword out.
I'll put the link out there toofor you guys.
We can also help each other andspread that awareness to the
Twiggy show or to trucking.
It's also pivotal, you know,making these truck stops, all
these connections, learning fromeach other and just making each
(41:19):
other smile and be happy.
I think that's uh, I thinkthat's huge man.
It made me, made me smile whenI knew you were right here at
the mall of america and I had anopportunity, I had the time to
actually go and watch the show.
So I had a blast.
My daughter had a great time aswell too awesome.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, no, I think that's a fun thing is like,
cause we kind of live at truckstops.
All the truckers are always,you know, loving what we do and
you know, always askingquestions and it gets into long
conversations and uh, but weenjoy what we do, we're, we're
living on the road, just, youknow, one day at a time.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So Wow, awesome.
Thank you guys.
Um, and for all of you guys outfor everyone on this, one
message or lesson I hope thatpeople take away is to see when
can they see Twiggy perform?
What's the next show?
Or you find a schedule.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah, we do post our schedule on our website.
It's twiggyshowcom and we alsopost it on our social media.
And our handle is at Twiggyshowcom and we also post it on
our social media.
Uh, and our handle is at twiggyshow nice and um.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Do you guys help people?
What's the mission with theshow?
Uh, what's what's the lesson?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
so my dad lost his life in a boating accident in 97
um.
So my mom put a life jacket onthe squirrel and then we are now
recognized by the National SafeBoating Council and the Coast
Guard as the spokes animal forwater safety.
So basically we're we're therepromoting water safety to
everyone around the world, tomake sure what happened with my
(42:50):
dad doesn't happen to anybodyelse.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Thank you.
I want to make sure I got thatin there, yeah, because, yeah,
you guys do a great job withthat and I'm sorry for the loss.
Man, it's uh.
Losing a parent is hard.
Losing anyone that that we loveis hard.
So in the truck industry, a lotof people are affected by lives
on the road and also out offthe road.
So we all got to be safe so wecan get home back to our loved
(43:15):
ones.
So, yeah, just kind of signingout there.
There you have it.
You got Chrome, you got passion, you got family creativity, you
got the squirrels, I mean man.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
And a whole lot of nuts.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Definitely in the house, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Thank you, so I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Oh, man, man, so a big thank you to you, uh, chuck,
tony and the one and onlyhollywood.
Thank you for sharing yourstories and your advice, your
insight and also that compassionthat you guys have for each
other.
Man, it's uh amazing.
Keep that going.
That family ties, and, um, Ithink that's beautiful.
We all need a lot more of thatin the world.
So, keep, keep that going,spread that energy.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Yeah, thank you for having me come on and talk my
little side of the episode overhere.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
They were warming you up.
You're the headliner.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
They were buttering you up for an hour before you
came on.
Nice, nice they were butteringup for an hour before you came
on nice nice, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
All right, uh, so to catch twiggy on the show, uh, in
person, or learn more?
Uh, check out the episode notes.
We'll put that in there.
And until next time, keep thosewheels turning, wheels running
and keep making memories on andoff the road.
And that's Delivered.
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