July 21, 2025 • 23 mins
Trucking safety and driver development take center stage as we reconnect with industry expert John Rojas, who returns to That’s Delivered with powerful updates that could reshape how drivers are trained and supported. From FMCSA’s tough stance on English language enforcement to the rise of unqualified training programs, John offers insight, solutions, and a call to action. He introduces “El Glosario,” a new tool aimed at helping Spanish-speaking drivers meet regulatory demands through gamified, voice-enabled learning. This episode dives deep into real problems and practical solutions that affect today’s drivers and tomorrow’s trucking standards.
Key Takeaways:
✅ El Glosario helps Spanish-speaking drivers master trucking terms through flashcards, voice recognition, and crossword games
✅ FMCSA is enforcing English language proficiency rules that could impact many experienced drivers
✅ John’s platform connects users to free adult literacy programs across the country
✅ Over 36,000 self-certified training providers have flooded the space—many skipping up to 30% of required curriculum
✅ FMCSA is ramping up audits on CDL schools; drivers should vet schools thoroughly before enrolling
✅ John’s advice: “It pays to be safe, not to be fast”—safety-first should always be the goal
✅ Fleet owners and new drivers alike need to be aware of training gaps and compliance risks
Explore John’s platform and training tools here:
👉 https://b2b.easycdl-online.com/products/
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hi everyone, welcome back to another episode of
that's Delivered.
I'm your host, truckin' Ray,and today we're welcoming back
another special guest that wehad on the show, john Rojas.
He helped the podcast getstarted.
We really appreciate hisparticipation, coming on and
talking about what he has tooffer there for the drivers of
all kinds that are looking for aCDL.
But there's more to it.
(00:33):
John's been doing big thingssince then.
He's been working hard,building his consulting business
and developing a driverproficiency tool and continuing
to shape the future of truckingthrough his work at Bumper to
Bumper EZCDL School.
We're excited to catch up andhear what's been going on and to
learn how he's helping driversnavigate the changes of the
(00:54):
industry, including the newFMCSA enforcement coming down
the road.
So we welcome John to the show.
John, welcome back.
How are you doing, my man?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm doing fantastic, Ray.
Thank you so much for having meagain.
It's a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, it is.
I'm glad that I'm able to keepthis thing going and helping
people learn about what's outthere and help them stay abreast
as to what's going on in theindustry.
I mean, there's changes thatare happening with the
administration.
There's quite a few changesthat have taken place, but first
of all I wanted to see, kind ofgo in full circle, what's going
on with you and how are youdoing what's new on your side?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, again, congratulations on the podcast.
You're doing a fantastic job.
I've been watching everyepisode and you're doing
fantastic, and thank you forspreading the word out there.
Number one, I'm excited to beback on the show.
I can't believe it's been thatlong since we've we've done this
(01:55):
in the past, you know, uh, gosh, it's almost a year ago already
, so, but uh, no, as far as afull circle goes, uh, the
industry is never boring.
We always got something goingon, right, right.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's awesome, man, and you know there's a lot of
changes that have happenedlately.
Uh, what's one thing that'sstayed consistent for you in the
industry?
Uh, one thing that you knowthat, uh, people can always rely
on.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, you know, training's always a big uh, a
big aspect, or you know, uh,training is always a huge
subject as far as making surethat your drivers are
well-informed.
They are well informed, they'resafe out on the roads.
And you know, the biggest thingright now is this regulation
for the English languageproficiency.
(02:35):
You know, that rule, thatregulation, has been around for
a long time.
It's not new.
I mean, the only new thingabout it is is that it's it's to
be enforced.
Now, many states just kind ofyou know, we're really very
laxed on that and allow driversto, you know, communicate in
their, their, their own language, or you know, they're in
(02:58):
Spanish, or whatever the casemay be.
But now that this regulationsand has come into par, drivers
are kind of caught in the middleof it.
And it's a shame becausethere's a lot of good drivers
out there that just prefer it orare more comfortable with their
own language, which Iunderstand.
That Me, coming from aneducation side, as far as the
training school goes, we cameacross that a lot.
(03:20):
We've always offered ourprogram in English only, but we
received a lot of folks thatwere predominantly spoke Spanish
.
So we, we we basicallyinterviewed them and let them
know.
Hey look, the class is inEnglish.
Where are you at?
As far as being able tocommunicate with it?
(03:40):
Because you're not.
You're not going to be able tojust get everything in Spanish.
Or as far as the drivers go,it's a.
It's unfortunate becausethey're caught in the middle of
it.
They could be the best driverout there, but they don't speak
English very well, and that'sthat's misfortunate.
So what we've done is, you know,we put together a program that
will allow them to practicetrucking terms.
(04:01):
There's a lot of stuff that'sout there that's coming up,
popping up with just likesignage and just bare minimum
stuff to just try to get thesefolks by on a vehicle inspection
.
And I'll tell you what we wentabove and beyond, because we
took every trucking term thatyou could possibly think of you
got thousands of terms to wherea driver can actually pull up a
(04:22):
specific term and learn theEnglish version and Spanish
version.
And then we made it fun towhere it's actually like a game
too, to where not only can theyjust utilize the glossary part,
but they can go into theactivities and they can either
use flashcards they couldutilize a crossword puzzle,
(04:48):
utilize a crossword puzzle orthe fun one is the talk, the
talk version to where youactually have to pronounce it
and say it correctly in order toget credit and move to the next
level.
It's very cool, but uh, the wayit's designed is, it's it's on
the drivers.
The driver goes at their ownpace.
You know, there's no hurry,there's no grading.
This is a tool to help themlearn that and be familiar,
because if they are caught on aroadside inspection, they can't
(05:09):
use any aids, they can't use atranslator, you can't go.
You know you need to memorizethis stuff and learn it.
Find it very important to makesure that we try to help these
folks.
So not only do we have DaleGlossero, but we also work with
schools, colleges across thecountry, to where they have
(05:32):
programs for adult literacy, towhere sometimes they're even
free.
So if they need help, they letus know what area they're at.
We can pretty much put them incontact with someone that can
help them.
That next step, the truckingterms.
Hey, we got that.
But when it comes down toactual taking classes for
English and stuff, we might beable to help them as far as
direct them to the right personor the right program in their
(05:56):
area, nice.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And what's the name of it?
Again, el Glacero, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I'll brush up on that for myself.
El Glacero it.
They can just have it on theirdevice.
It's a yearly subscription towhere they can get on as they
have time and go in and practicethose terms that they're most
commonly using.
So if they are caught they'recomfortable speaking those terms
.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Nice, and that'll make them a better driver and
also help the industry as wellto keep going with the driver
shortage or driver retention, sothat's going to definitely be a
great tool.
I'm glad that you guys took thetime yourself to do that.
I mean, that's really good.
What prompted you guys to dothat?
Was there a particularsituation that happened, or was
there something that brought toyour attention to say, hey, this
(06:56):
is important?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
and just say, hey, this is important.
Well, you know, this wascreated years ago when a lot of
the employers were looking atrecruiting Spanish drivers and
bringing them on, just becauseit was just such a huge demand.
So we created the El Glaceroback then with our Laguia.
We have the bumper-to-bumpertextbook that's in the Spanish
(07:19):
version.
So we added the glossary tothat to help these folks out.
So we took that out ofproduction as far as the
handbook goes, just because ofthe cost of printing them out
and that sort of thing.
And you know, electronic is theway to go.
Now Most folks, most of ourusers, are utilizing some type
of device.
So we went ahead and we don'thave the handbooks in production
(07:40):
anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
We went ahead and we don't have the handbooks in
production anymore, but aGlacero can be purchased online.
Now to where they can utilizethe learning platform.
So where can drivers or fleetowners access this?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
tool?
Is it online or part of thecourse?
Absolutely.
You just go to our website.
I'll get you that informationwhere you can put that on there,
but just easycdl-onlinecom.
All right, sweet and man,you're also doing consulting.
(08:24):
You're helping people, alsoinspiring.
Start offering this servicesfor drivers and companies to
help them with your, yourexpertise as well, and let's
tell us about that too.
Yeah, and the consulting sideinteresting.
You know, since I retired fromthe uh, from the, from the
college I uh, I still have alove for the industry.
So we talk to a lot of folks,whether it be employers or
training providers, public andprivate.
So on the consulting side, weget a lot of calls on compliance
.
We actually have gone in andhelped some schools that thought
(08:47):
they were doing it right, towhere they got in trouble or
they got questioned.
So we went in and evaluatedtheir program, gave them some
tips and in some cases evenrevamped their curriculum just
to make sure that they're doingeverything that FMCSA requires
for entry-level driver training,from the theory to the skills
(09:07):
portion.
You know a lot of schools, Imean, they like to train to pass
, you know, to pass the test,and the FMCSA ELDT goes way more
above and beyond that.
So there's a lot of things thatyou have to teach and cover
besides just passing the CDLexam for their driver's license
(09:30):
test.
So that's where a lot of folksfall short.
So we love getting those calls.
We try to get folks on theright path to uh and uh to where
they're successful and they'regoing to be around.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Nice.
Can you share a success storyfrom your consulting experience
that made you feel like you know?
This is why I do this.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well, absolutely, I, I, we again, we work with
training providers and employers, but just most recently,
without saying any names, justclient confidentiality, but just
without, you know, calling outtheir name but I had an employer
that's, you know, they'repretty, pretty large employer
that had their own trainingprogram that uh kind of got
nicked and they, they had to goin and prove that they were uh
(10:15):
teaching all, all requirementsfor the skills portion.
Well, when we went in and dugin they were missing quite a bit
.
They only were training about70% of what they're supposed to.
So we went in and revamped thatfor them and got them on track
and they were up and going again, made some adjustments to the
length of their program, theequipment that they were using,
(10:38):
even the instructors that theyhire, making sure that they're
credentialed.
So got them on track andthey're happy as can be and
doing very well and fillingthose seats.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
That's awesome.
Yeah, we got to take care ofthe young ones.
We got to take care of theentry drivers so that they can
be prepared when they're on theroad performing that they're
also representing the industrywell.
So I appreciate you do the workand you do it thorough.
I think you do a great job.
You're known in the industryvery well, so keep up the great
work with that.
The consulting business I thinkit's going to be a great asset
(11:12):
for a lot of companies that needthat help, so I hope they seek
that out.
Where can they find that aswell?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, you can go to our website and reach out to us
anytime they can.
Even, you know, while myinformation's on there, they can
call the office and we will getback to them, set up a
consultation to where we canfigure out how we can help and
go from there.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So, speaking of the FMCSA and compliance, I'm kind
of wanted to see if you knew anyupdated information.
Maybe it could help thelisteners.
Uh, speaking on what changesare upcoming or enforcement
policies that drivers can reallypay attention to right now, um,
what do you see them focusingor changing on and within the
next year or two, and how candrivers stay ahead?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Haven't seen uh now it's been kind of quiet as far
as any kind of new regulations.
With the new administration,you know, they kind of
challenged uh, uh, not creatingso much more regulate, uh,
regulations and seeing wherethey can you know if they're
going to implement new ones,what are they going to take out?
You know what I'm saying.
So there, uh, so that's kind offrozen right now, ray, uh, but
(12:16):
right now I can tell you this alot of, a lot of the things, of
the things that we're reallyconcentrating on on the
educational side is the entrylevel driver training training
provider registry, to whereFMCSA has a plan of action to
make sure the training providersthat self-certify that they're
doing what they're supposed tobe doing are actually doing it.
(12:39):
So FMCSA has really stepped upto the plate.
You know we're members of theCommercial Vehicle Training
Association as well as theNational Association of Publicly
Truck Driving Schools and weare constantly working with
FMCSA to try to make sure thatthat compliance is being held to
(13:03):
the standards.
You know what I'm sayingBasically policing them,
auditing these trainingproviders to make sure that
they're doing what they'resupposed to be doing, because
that training provider registryarray is ridiculously large.
There's over 36,000 trainingproviders on that registry.
There's over 36,000 trainingproviders on that registry.
(13:35):
Before the ELDT was implementedthere was roughly 1,000.
So just about anybody can go onthere and fill out that
application and check a box andsay self-certified has
implemented some stricterguidelines.
As far as reapplying, you knowyou're supposed to reapply for
your program every couple yearsand in that application to get
recertified they ask a lot morequestions and there's a lot more
checkboxes that you have toclick out stating that you're
doing what you're supposed to bedoing.
And then the next plan isactually having auditors on the
(13:59):
ground, to where they go out,and they'll actually start
looking at these programs makingsure that they're doing what
they're supposed to be doing.
Because it's a big problem.
It is a really big problembecause you have a lot of folks
out there that they're offeringguaranteed CDLs, guaranteed in
two days.
I mean it's not good and thoseare the kind of folks that don't
(14:21):
need to be in our industry.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, I mean, you see it all the time on social media
videos.
They're just horrific videos ofaccidents that are taking place
and, um, education is a hugepart of that.
So, uh, what, what do you sayto drivers out there when they
see that type of clickbait?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
What would you say?
You know, ask questions,especially if you're someone
looking at getting into theindustry.
You know, if you see somethingthat's you know too good to be
true, it probably is.
You know, free training, reallycheap training, you know that,
that sort of thing that shouldautomatically set off a red flag
for you.
But ask a lot of questions.
My advice is number one hey, askthem if you can come visit
(15:08):
their school.
You want to look at theirequipment.
Ask them who they work with.
As far as employers go, okay,you ask those three questions
right there.
That's already going to makethem aware that, hey, you're
doing your research and you'renot an easy buck.
So if you ask those threequestions, that's going to let
you have a better determination.
If that's the right school foryou, I highly recommend going to
(15:31):
a provider that's been aroundthat actually has a solid
curriculum that they could show.
They should have a studenthandbook to where you can come
in.
They'll give you a tour oftheir facilities and see their
equipment.
And they should have a studenthandbook to where you can come
in.
They'll give you a tour oftheir facilities and see their
equipment and they should have along list of employers that are
just lining up to hire theirstudents.
So that would be myrecommendation, because the
(15:52):
worst thing you could do is, youknow, pay someone a cheap fee
and be out of that money, andyou're going to end up paying
that the cost for CDL trainingsomewhere else, just so you can
get a decent job.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, we definitely got to keep the standard up, not
going down low because it's nothelping anybody.
They're just, you know, takingthe money.
So I mean you're prettyinvolved in Bumper to Bumper
Easy CDL School, with thetraining next generation of
drivers through Bumper to BumperEasy CDL School.
What's on the front?
New front for Bumper to BumperEasy CDL, for EZCDL.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, you know we work with.
We work with training providersall over.
You know, most of our clientsdo utilize our system and manage
it in-house.
It's custom designed for them,so they manage it.
The individuals that actuallycome to us that we, that we help
and then we point them in theright direction because we don't
do the skills training.
So we have partners all overthe country to give a referral
(16:47):
to the training provider in yourarea to where you can get the
skills portion done.
It really just depends onwhat's best for you.
But what are we doing?
We're constantly looking atmaking our training platform
better.
So we're always, always lookingat improving.
Some of the new things are justbeing more engaged, keeping
(17:07):
students engaged in the learningenvironment.
That way they're learning andretaining the information.
Our program is just not one ofthose.
Hey click here and be done withit in a couple hours.
Our program for theory isequivalent to a 40 hour lecture
and it's very, very thorough andwe'd rather do that than cut
(17:28):
corners.
We want the drivers, the newentry level guys coming in, to
be well informed to where theycan go out there and be
successful in the industry,because, as you know it, it
doesn't take much to go outthere and mess up your driving
record, and then you're nothireable anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Um, have you made any curriculum or program changes
recently that, uh, that you'rebased on seeing it out there in
the field, cause I know you getto go and go to a lot of
seminars and talk to a lot ofdifferent people Uh, what
changes have you been able toimplement?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Uh, not so much.
Uh, curriculum changes we wehaven't, cause the material
really hasn't needed to changemuch.
Uh, I can tell you this on someof the program side, there's
some neat stuff that's out there.
There's this more engaging,more videos, more illustrations,
just more hands-on, instead ofjust watching a video and then
(18:18):
taking a test.
We want those folks to beengaged through the whole thing.
So we have some new things thatwe're putting out soon, in the
near future, to get to where thestudents actually work, you
know, taking those quizquestions or practice questions
throughout the program, to whereit's not just hey, turn the
video on, watch the video for 15, 40 minutes, whatever video it
(18:40):
is, and then they just take aquiz.
We're looking at changing thatup.
So that's some of the thingsthat we're looking at, and then
technology as well.
So we want to make sure thatour stuff's compliant, you know,
compatible with all the newstuff coming up.
So it's a it's a constantchallenge to make sure that you
stay ahead of the game.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Nice.
So yeah, if you can.
Just, I think a tip for driversout there is create a LinkedIn
for yourself.
Have a professional backgroundthat you're able to be a part of
, and create your network thereand grow.
See other professionals in theindustry that want to elevate it
and do better, even just forhealth reasons.
I think that's also great too,so you can be successful.
(19:20):
So any other tips or advice fordrivers out there?
Starting out, what would yousay to them?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, again, safety is everything.
Don't ever, don't ever, getcomplacent.
As far as your vehicleinspection you know that's where
a lot of incidents happen towhere we're used to our
equipment we're like, I don'tneed to check that today.
You know what I mean.
So that's usually when you geta brake failure or tire blowout
(19:47):
or something like that.
Don't be complacent with justyour truck.
I mean, make sure that you'reconstantly doing your vehicle
inspection, check those airbrakes, and if you're working
for a smaller company and theequipment is subpar, don't be
afraid to speak up.
Remember you're the driver ofthat truck when you start that
truck up and you go down theroad.
(20:08):
That's your responsibility.
You're the one that's supposedto make sure that that vehicle's
safe before putting it out onour public roadways and I talked
to so many drivers to wherethey're.
Just they're insecure abouttheir abilities or they don't
want to.
You know, cause waves becausethat truck.
They know that it needs to besome repair, but that's the only
(20:28):
one available and they have towork.
Don't do it, it ain't worth it.
All it takes is one accidentfor you to lose your life,
someone else's life or again,your driving record is going to
be affected by this, so makesure your vehicles are inspected
well and they'rewell-maintained before you put
them out on the road.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Nice, great advice Makes me want to go out and do a
pre-trip right now.
I like that, yeah.
So that is important.
You get complacent, especiallyif you're getting in the same
truck all the time and then,when something happens, nobody
cares that you didn't do it,you're going to pay the cost,
even if it's just paperwork in atruck.
I've heard of people gettingcaught up with that too, just
(21:11):
not having the properdocumentation in the vehicle.
We've got to stay alert.
We've got to do our job.
The public is depending on us,america is depending on us to
get the job done right.
They pay us to be safe, not tobe fast.
That's right, I know.
And it pays to be safe, not tobe fast.
That's right.
On a balanced area, I know.
Thanks again for coming on theshow talking about the glossary
(21:38):
you would say in.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Spanish El glossario.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
El glossario.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
El glossario, you got it.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I'm trying, man, that's one of my personal goals.
A bucket list That'd besomething if I can learn Spanish
.
Man, that's one of my personalgoals.
A bucket list That'd besomething.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
if I could learn Spanish, man, we'll get you some
credentials.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You can get in and start practicing, ray, awesome.
Well, I really appreciate youdoing this, taking the time out
to talk to people and helpencourage people to do the right
thing and also enlighten them.
It's all the great things youguys are doing over there at
Bumper to Bumper Easy CDL.
So whether you're helping thedrivers stay compliant, teaching
the next generation or justfinding better ways to level up
in the trucking industry, you'redoing a great work and we
really appreciate it.
(22:19):
So we look for those links.
I'll put those in the notes forthe listeners, and that's
pretty much all we have fortoday, so enjoy that weather
over there.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, all we have for today, so enjoy that weather
over there.
Yeah, thanks a lot, ray.
I appreciate it.
I wish you well.
You be safe out there as well.
Mr.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Try to stay cool.
Man, looks like the weather isgoing to keep you going there.
That Texas don't play.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
The heat index is only 109 today, so it's not that
bad All right.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, thank you so much.
And listeners out there stayAll right, well, thank you so
much.
And listeners out there staysafe out on the road, keep
rolling, moving forward, andwe'll catch you next time on
another episode of that'sDelivered.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Thank you, take care.
Hi everyone, welcome back to another episode of
that's Delivered.
I'm your host, truckin' Ray,and today we're welcoming back
another special guest that wehad on the show, john Rojas.
He helped the podcast getstarted.
We really appreciate hisparticipation, coming on and
talking about what he has tooffer there for the drivers of
all kinds that are looking for aCDL.
But there's more to it.
(00:33):
John's been doing big thingssince then.
He's been working hard,building his consulting business
and developing a driverproficiency tool and continuing
to shape the future of truckingthrough his work at Bumper to
Bumper EZCDL School.
We're excited to catch up andhear what's been going on and to
learn how he's helping driversnavigate the changes of the
(00:54):
industry, including the newFMCSA enforcement coming down
the road.
So we welcome John to the show.
John, welcome back.
How are you doing, my man?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm doing fantastic, Ray.
Thank you so much for having meagain.
It's a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, it is.
I'm glad that I'm able to keepthis thing going and helping
people learn about what's outthere and help them stay abreast
as to what's going on in theindustry.
I mean, there's changes thatare happening with the
administration.
There's quite a few changesthat have taken place, but first
of all I wanted to see, kind ofgo in full circle, what's going
on with you and how are youdoing what's new on your side?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, again, congratulations on the podcast.
You're doing a fantastic job.
I've been watching everyepisode and you're doing
fantastic, and thank you forspreading the word out there.
Number one, I'm excited to beback on the show.
I can't believe it's been thatlong since we've we've done this
(01:55):
in the past, you know, uh, gosh, it's almost a year ago already
, so, but uh, no, as far as afull circle goes, uh, the
industry is never boring.
We always got something goingon, right, right.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's awesome, man, and you know there's a lot of
changes that have happenedlately.
Uh, what's one thing that'sstayed consistent for you in the
industry?
Uh, one thing that you knowthat, uh, people can always rely
on.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, you know, training's always a big uh, a
big aspect, or you know, uh,training is always a huge
subject as far as making surethat your drivers are
well-informed.
They are well informed, they'resafe out on the roads.
And you know, the biggest thingright now is this regulation
for the English languageproficiency.
(02:35):
You know, that rule, thatregulation, has been around for
a long time.
It's not new.
I mean, the only new thingabout it is is that it's it's to
be enforced.
Now, many states just kind ofyou know, we're really very
laxed on that and allow driversto, you know, communicate in
their, their, their own language, or you know, they're in
(02:58):
Spanish, or whatever the casemay be.
But now that this regulationsand has come into par, drivers
are kind of caught in the middleof it.
And it's a shame becausethere's a lot of good drivers
out there that just prefer it orare more comfortable with their
own language, which Iunderstand.
That Me, coming from aneducation side, as far as the
training school goes, we cameacross that a lot.
(03:20):
We've always offered ourprogram in English only, but we
received a lot of folks thatwere predominantly spoke Spanish
.
So we, we we basicallyinterviewed them and let them
know.
Hey look, the class is inEnglish.
Where are you at?
As far as being able tocommunicate with it?
(03:40):
Because you're not.
You're not going to be able tojust get everything in Spanish.
Or as far as the drivers go,it's a.
It's unfortunate becausethey're caught in the middle of
it.
They could be the best driverout there, but they don't speak
English very well, and that'sthat's misfortunate.
So what we've done is, you know,we put together a program that
will allow them to practicetrucking terms.
(04:01):
There's a lot of stuff that'sout there that's coming up,
popping up with just likesignage and just bare minimum
stuff to just try to get thesefolks by on a vehicle inspection
.
And I'll tell you what we wentabove and beyond, because we
took every trucking term thatyou could possibly think of you
got thousands of terms to wherea driver can actually pull up a
(04:22):
specific term and learn theEnglish version and Spanish
version.
And then we made it fun towhere it's actually like a game
too, to where not only can theyjust utilize the glossary part,
but they can go into theactivities and they can either
use flashcards they couldutilize a crossword puzzle,
(04:48):
utilize a crossword puzzle orthe fun one is the talk, the
talk version to where youactually have to pronounce it
and say it correctly in order toget credit and move to the next
level.
It's very cool, but uh, the wayit's designed is, it's it's on
the drivers.
The driver goes at their ownpace.
You know, there's no hurry,there's no grading.
This is a tool to help themlearn that and be familiar,
because if they are caught on aroadside inspection, they can't
(05:09):
use any aids, they can't use atranslator, you can't go.
You know you need to memorizethis stuff and learn it.
Find it very important to makesure that we try to help these
folks.
So not only do we have DaleGlossero, but we also work with
schools, colleges across thecountry, to where they have
(05:32):
programs for adult literacy, towhere sometimes they're even
free.
So if they need help, they letus know what area they're at.
We can pretty much put them incontact with someone that can
help them.
That next step, the truckingterms.
Hey, we got that.
But when it comes down toactual taking classes for
English and stuff, we might beable to help them as far as
direct them to the right personor the right program in their
(05:56):
area, nice.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And what's the name of it?
Again, el Glacero, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I'll brush up on that for myself.
El Glacero it.
They can just have it on theirdevice.
It's a yearly subscription towhere they can get on as they
have time and go in and practicethose terms that they're most
commonly using.
So if they are caught they'recomfortable speaking those terms
.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Nice, and that'll make them a better driver and
also help the industry as wellto keep going with the driver
shortage or driver retention, sothat's going to definitely be a
great tool.
I'm glad that you guys took thetime yourself to do that.
I mean, that's really good.
What prompted you guys to dothat?
Was there a particularsituation that happened, or was
there something that brought toyour attention to say, hey, this
(06:56):
is important?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
and just say, hey, this is important.
Well, you know, this wascreated years ago when a lot of
the employers were looking atrecruiting Spanish drivers and
bringing them on, just becauseit was just such a huge demand.
So we created the El Glaceroback then with our Laguia.
We have the bumper-to-bumpertextbook that's in the Spanish
(07:19):
version.
So we added the glossary tothat to help these folks out.
So we took that out ofproduction as far as the
handbook goes, just because ofthe cost of printing them out
and that sort of thing.
And you know, electronic is theway to go.
Now Most folks, most of ourusers, are utilizing some type
of device.
So we went ahead and we don'thave the handbooks in production
(07:40):
anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
We went ahead and we don't have the handbooks in
production anymore, but aGlacero can be purchased online.
Now to where they can utilizethe learning platform.
So where can drivers or fleetowners access this?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
tool?
Is it online or part of thecourse?
Absolutely.
You just go to our website.
I'll get you that informationwhere you can put that on there,
but just easycdl-onlinecom.
All right, sweet and man,you're also doing consulting.
(08:24):
You're helping people, alsoinspiring.
Start offering this servicesfor drivers and companies to
help them with your, yourexpertise as well, and let's
tell us about that too.
Yeah, and the consulting sideinteresting.
You know, since I retired fromthe uh, from the, from the
college I uh, I still have alove for the industry.
So we talk to a lot of folks,whether it be employers or
training providers, public andprivate.
So on the consulting side, weget a lot of calls on compliance
.
We actually have gone in andhelped some schools that thought
(08:47):
they were doing it right, towhere they got in trouble or
they got questioned.
So we went in and evaluatedtheir program, gave them some
tips and in some cases evenrevamped their curriculum just
to make sure that they're doingeverything that FMCSA requires
for entry-level driver training,from the theory to the skills
(09:07):
portion.
You know a lot of schools, Imean, they like to train to pass
, you know, to pass the test,and the FMCSA ELDT goes way more
above and beyond that.
So there's a lot of things thatyou have to teach and cover
besides just passing the CDLexam for their driver's license
(09:30):
test.
So that's where a lot of folksfall short.
So we love getting those calls.
We try to get folks on theright path to uh and uh to where
they're successful and they'regoing to be around.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Nice.
Can you share a success storyfrom your consulting experience
that made you feel like you know?
This is why I do this.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well, absolutely, I, I, we again, we work with
training providers and employers, but just most recently,
without saying any names, justclient confidentiality, but just
without, you know, calling outtheir name but I had an employer
that's, you know, they'repretty, pretty large employer
that had their own trainingprogram that uh kind of got
nicked and they, they had to goin and prove that they were uh
(10:15):
teaching all, all requirementsfor the skills portion.
Well, when we went in and dugin they were missing quite a bit
.
They only were training about70% of what they're supposed to.
So we went in and revamped thatfor them and got them on track
and they were up and going again, made some adjustments to the
length of their program, theequipment that they were using,
(10:38):
even the instructors that theyhire, making sure that they're
credentialed.
So got them on track andthey're happy as can be and
doing very well and fillingthose seats.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
That's awesome.
Yeah, we got to take care ofthe young ones.
We got to take care of theentry drivers so that they can
be prepared when they're on theroad performing that they're
also representing the industrywell.
So I appreciate you do the workand you do it thorough.
I think you do a great job.
You're known in the industryvery well, so keep up the great
work with that.
The consulting business I thinkit's going to be a great asset
(11:12):
for a lot of companies that needthat help, so I hope they seek
that out.
Where can they find that aswell?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, you can go to our website and reach out to us
anytime they can.
Even, you know, while myinformation's on there, they can
call the office and we will getback to them, set up a
consultation to where we canfigure out how we can help and
go from there.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So, speaking of the FMCSA and compliance, I'm kind
of wanted to see if you knew anyupdated information.
Maybe it could help thelisteners.
Uh, speaking on what changesare upcoming or enforcement
policies that drivers can reallypay attention to right now, um,
what do you see them focusingor changing on and within the
next year or two, and how candrivers stay ahead?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Haven't seen uh now it's been kind of quiet as far
as any kind of new regulations.
With the new administration,you know, they kind of
challenged uh, uh, not creatingso much more regulate, uh,
regulations and seeing wherethey can you know if they're
going to implement new ones,what are they going to take out?
You know what I'm saying.
So there, uh, so that's kind offrozen right now, ray, uh, but
(12:16):
right now I can tell you this alot of, a lot of the things, of
the things that we're reallyconcentrating on on the
educational side is the entrylevel driver training training
provider registry, to whereFMCSA has a plan of action to
make sure the training providersthat self-certify that they're
doing what they're supposed tobe doing are actually doing it.
(12:39):
So FMCSA has really stepped upto the plate.
You know we're members of theCommercial Vehicle Training
Association as well as theNational Association of Publicly
Truck Driving Schools and weare constantly working with
FMCSA to try to make sure thatthat compliance is being held to
(13:03):
the standards.
You know what I'm sayingBasically policing them,
auditing these trainingproviders to make sure that
they're doing what they'resupposed to be doing, because
that training provider registryarray is ridiculously large.
There's over 36,000 trainingproviders on that registry.
There's over 36,000 trainingproviders on that registry.
(13:35):
Before the ELDT was implementedthere was roughly 1,000.
So just about anybody can go onthere and fill out that
application and check a box andsay self-certified has
implemented some stricterguidelines.
As far as reapplying, you knowyou're supposed to reapply for
your program every couple yearsand in that application to get
recertified they ask a lot morequestions and there's a lot more
checkboxes that you have toclick out stating that you're
doing what you're supposed to bedoing.
And then the next plan isactually having auditors on the
(13:59):
ground, to where they go out,and they'll actually start
looking at these programs makingsure that they're doing what
they're supposed to be doing.
Because it's a big problem.
It is a really big problembecause you have a lot of folks
out there that they're offeringguaranteed CDLs, guaranteed in
two days.
I mean it's not good and thoseare the kind of folks that don't
(14:21):
need to be in our industry.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, I mean, you see it all the time on social media
videos.
They're just horrific videos ofaccidents that are taking place
and, um, education is a hugepart of that.
So, uh, what, what do you sayto drivers out there when they
see that type of clickbait?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
What would you say?
You know, ask questions,especially if you're someone
looking at getting into theindustry.
You know, if you see somethingthat's you know too good to be
true, it probably is.
You know, free training, reallycheap training, you know that,
that sort of thing that shouldautomatically set off a red flag
for you.
But ask a lot of questions.
My advice is number one hey, askthem if you can come visit
(15:08):
their school.
You want to look at theirequipment.
Ask them who they work with.
As far as employers go, okay,you ask those three questions
right there.
That's already going to makethem aware that, hey, you're
doing your research and you'renot an easy buck.
So if you ask those threequestions, that's going to let
you have a better determination.
If that's the right school foryou, I highly recommend going to
(15:31):
a provider that's been aroundthat actually has a solid
curriculum that they could show.
They should have a studenthandbook to where you can come
in.
They'll give you a tour oftheir facilities and see their
equipment.
And they should have a studenthandbook to where you can come
in.
They'll give you a tour oftheir facilities and see their
equipment and they should have along list of employers that are
just lining up to hire theirstudents.
So that would be myrecommendation, because the
(15:52):
worst thing you could do is, youknow, pay someone a cheap fee
and be out of that money, andyou're going to end up paying
that the cost for CDL trainingsomewhere else, just so you can
get a decent job.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, we definitely got to keep the standard up, not
going down low because it's nothelping anybody.
They're just, you know, takingthe money.
So I mean you're prettyinvolved in Bumper to Bumper
Easy CDL School, with thetraining next generation of
drivers through Bumper to BumperEasy CDL School.
What's on the front?
New front for Bumper to BumperEasy CDL, for EZCDL.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, you know we work with.
We work with training providersall over.
You know, most of our clientsdo utilize our system and manage
it in-house.
It's custom designed for them,so they manage it.
The individuals that actuallycome to us that we, that we help
and then we point them in theright direction because we don't
do the skills training.
So we have partners all overthe country to give a referral
(16:47):
to the training provider in yourarea to where you can get the
skills portion done.
It really just depends onwhat's best for you.
But what are we doing?
We're constantly looking atmaking our training platform
better.
So we're always, always lookingat improving.
Some of the new things are justbeing more engaged, keeping
(17:07):
students engaged in the learningenvironment.
That way they're learning andretaining the information.
Our program is just not one ofthose.
Hey click here and be done withit in a couple hours.
Our program for theory isequivalent to a 40 hour lecture
and it's very, very thorough andwe'd rather do that than cut
(17:28):
corners.
We want the drivers, the newentry level guys coming in, to
be well informed to where theycan go out there and be
successful in the industry,because, as you know it, it
doesn't take much to go outthere and mess up your driving
record, and then you're nothireable anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Um, have you made any curriculum or program changes
recently that, uh, that you'rebased on seeing it out there in
the field, cause I know you getto go and go to a lot of
seminars and talk to a lot ofdifferent people Uh, what
changes have you been able toimplement?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Uh, not so much.
Uh, curriculum changes we wehaven't, cause the material
really hasn't needed to changemuch.
Uh, I can tell you this on someof the program side, there's
some neat stuff that's out there.
There's this more engaging,more videos, more illustrations,
just more hands-on, instead ofjust watching a video and then
(18:18):
taking a test.
We want those folks to beengaged through the whole thing.
So we have some new things thatwe're putting out soon, in the
near future, to get to where thestudents actually work, you
know, taking those quizquestions or practice questions
throughout the program, to whereit's not just hey, turn the
video on, watch the video for 15, 40 minutes, whatever video it
(18:40):
is, and then they just take aquiz.
We're looking at changing thatup.
So that's some of the thingsthat we're looking at, and then
technology as well.
So we want to make sure thatour stuff's compliant, you know,
compatible with all the newstuff coming up.
So it's a it's a constantchallenge to make sure that you
stay ahead of the game.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Nice.
So yeah, if you can.
Just, I think a tip for driversout there is create a LinkedIn
for yourself.
Have a professional backgroundthat you're able to be a part of
, and create your network thereand grow.
See other professionals in theindustry that want to elevate it
and do better, even just forhealth reasons.
I think that's also great too,so you can be successful.
(19:20):
So any other tips or advice fordrivers out there?
Starting out, what would yousay to them?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, again, safety is everything.
Don't ever, don't ever, getcomplacent.
As far as your vehicleinspection you know that's where
a lot of incidents happen towhere we're used to our
equipment we're like, I don'tneed to check that today.
You know what I mean.
So that's usually when you geta brake failure or tire blowout
(19:47):
or something like that.
Don't be complacent with justyour truck.
I mean, make sure that you'reconstantly doing your vehicle
inspection, check those airbrakes, and if you're working
for a smaller company and theequipment is subpar, don't be
afraid to speak up.
Remember you're the driver ofthat truck when you start that
truck up and you go down theroad.
(20:08):
That's your responsibility.
You're the one that's supposedto make sure that that vehicle's
safe before putting it out onour public roadways and I talked
to so many drivers to wherethey're.
Just they're insecure abouttheir abilities or they don't
want to.
You know, cause waves becausethat truck.
They know that it needs to besome repair, but that's the only
(20:28):
one available and they have towork.
Don't do it, it ain't worth it.
All it takes is one accidentfor you to lose your life,
someone else's life or again,your driving record is going to
be affected by this, so makesure your vehicles are inspected
well and they'rewell-maintained before you put
them out on the road.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Nice, great advice Makes me want to go out and do a
pre-trip right now.
I like that, yeah.
So that is important.
You get complacent, especiallyif you're getting in the same
truck all the time and then,when something happens, nobody
cares that you didn't do it,you're going to pay the cost,
even if it's just paperwork in atruck.
I've heard of people gettingcaught up with that too, just
(21:11):
not having the properdocumentation in the vehicle.
We've got to stay alert.
We've got to do our job.
The public is depending on us,america is depending on us to
get the job done right.
They pay us to be safe, not tobe fast.
That's right, I know.
And it pays to be safe, not tobe fast.
That's right.
On a balanced area, I know.
Thanks again for coming on theshow talking about the glossary
(21:38):
you would say in.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Spanish El glossario.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
El glossario.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
El glossario, you got it.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I'm trying, man, that's one of my personal goals.
A bucket list That'd besomething if I can learn Spanish
.
Man, that's one of my personalgoals.
A bucket list That'd besomething.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
if I could learn Spanish, man, we'll get you some
credentials.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You can get in and start practicing, ray, awesome.
Well, I really appreciate youdoing this, taking the time out
to talk to people and helpencourage people to do the right
thing and also enlighten them.
It's all the great things youguys are doing over there at
Bumper to Bumper Easy CDL.
So whether you're helping thedrivers stay compliant, teaching
the next generation or justfinding better ways to level up
in the trucking industry, you'redoing a great work and we
really appreciate it.
(22:19):
So we look for those links.
I'll put those in the notes forthe listeners, and that's
pretty much all we have fortoday, so enjoy that weather
over there.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, all we have for today, so enjoy that weather
over there.
Yeah, thanks a lot, ray.
I appreciate it.
I wish you well.
You be safe out there as well.
Mr.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Try to stay cool.
Man, looks like the weather isgoing to keep you going there.
That Texas don't play.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
The heat index is only 109 today, so it's not that
bad All right.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, thank you so much.
And listeners out there stayAll right, well, thank you so
much.
And listeners out there staysafe out on the road, keep
rolling, moving forward, andwe'll catch you next time on
another episode of that'sDelivered.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Thank you, take care.
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