September 19, 2025 • 28 mins
Navigating a career shift during the pandemic, Andrew Golding opens up about his unexpected journey from social worker to hazmat truck driver. When COVID forced his medical transport business to close, he turned to trucking school, earning his CDL and diving headfirst into the challenges of hauling hazardous materials across America. In this candid conversation, Andrew shares the highs and lows of his early days on the road, the strategies that helped him gain an edge, and the lessons every new driver should know before stepping into the industry.
Key Takeaways
✅ Pandemic Pivot – Andrew’s medical transport business shut down during COVID, leading him to pursue trucking as a new career.
✅ Reality Check – “You are not going to make a lot of money in your first year,” he cautions, cutting through the glossy promises of some CDL schools.
✅ Hazmat Advantage – Getting hazmat endorsements and a TWIC card early opened doors to higher-paying, specialized freight opportunities.
✅ Trial by Ice – His first drive on an icy Colorado mountain pass showed the dangers and unpredictability new drivers face.
✅ Life on the Road – Weeks of solo assignments taught him resilience, mental toughness, and how trucking forces you to learn about yourself.
✅ Inside Hazmat – Practical insights into hauling hazardous materials, from proper load securing to emergency safety protocols.
✅ Human Reminder – His closing message to four-wheelers: “Truck drivers are people too.”
✅ Follow His Journey – Connect with Andrew on TikTok and Facebook @Drew.the.trucker for honest stories from life on the road.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to that's Delivered.
I'm your host, trucking Ray,and today I'm joined by Andrew
Golding, a trucker that's foundon TikTok.
He gives a lot of storytellingthere.
He keeps it real about life onthe road.
He shares the good, the toughand everything in between, and I
know I had to have him on theshow.
So we're going to talk abouthow he got into trucking, what's
he learned about trucking, hisasthmatic experience and why
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sharing his journey onlinematters.
Andrew, thanks for joining ustoday on the show.
We'll go ahead and talk aboutwhy trucking is important for
you and what it really lookslike.
So let's get into it.
Andrew, welcome to the show.
I love it, you're out in thetruck, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'm good how you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Awesome Having a good day over here.
I mean, good weather alwaysmakes for a good day.
Oh, yeah, most definitely Justkind of talk about what you're
doing.
I know you're doing a lot thereon social media helping
truckers out there or anybodythat's curious about trucking.
How did it all get started withyou and trucking?
How did you get in the seat?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh gosh, I have to go back to 2022.
So prior to trucking, I was acontract worker, so I did like
Uber, lyft and also medicaltransport, which is where I made
most of my money.
Prior to the pandemic,everything was good.
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Then, when the pandemic hit,everything just pretty much
slowed down because I was incharge of taking groups of
people from Connecticut, so Ihad from one end of Connecticut
to their different appointmentsand it was a pretty good gig.
I got paid well $1 per mileplus $6 per head, so I had about
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six or seven people throughoutthe week, monday through Friday,
and definitely was making adecent living doing it.
Pandemic hit, that all slowedup.
We couldn't multi-load peopleanymore.
It really wasn't worth itmaking multiple trips.
So I got out of that.
During that time started aroadside rescue company with my
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cousin Travis and that was goinggood, but it still wasn't as
much as I was making.
Prior to that, and to take it astep back, prior to contract
work and 1099 work, I was also asocial worker.
(02:50):
So I was a social worker forfour years in the geriatric
field, so I worked in a coupleof nursing homes.
I was also a caseworker, so Iworked primarily with the
elderly facilities I worked at.
We had a contract with the VAhospital, so my job was to
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maintain that contract and makesure that their clients were
happy.
And after that, I 2016, I gotlaid off.
There were cuts across theboard.
I happened to be one of thepeople cut because, you know,
last one hired, first one fired.
You know how that goes.
Yeah and and uh.
After I got laid off, I just myheart wasn't in social work
(03:34):
anymore.
So I said you know, let's dosomething different.
Started doing uber for five orsix years, along with other um
gig jobs, and then how I gotinto trucking was things were
slow.
I needed to make a pivot.
I called one of our localschools in Connecticut.
They came to my house andbefore I knew it that next week
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I was in class of March of 2022.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You said they came to your house.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, actually, I literally called them just to
inquire.
I'll be at your house tomorrow,Did like a quick interview type
thing, and I was enrolled inclass next week.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Wow, I like that concept, real, personal, like
that.
Yeah, before someone goessomewhere else, you just go to
them and make sure that theymake a decision.
I like that.
I didn't have that one.
What was it like possessing orgetting your CDL?
(04:37):
Was it what you expected?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I didn't know what to expect, to be honest, going to
school I did.
They had an option of doing atwo month course.
I guess those people that weresomewhat familiar with trucking,
maybe in their previous countrythat they lived in, they had
some kind of experience.
I had no type of experiencewhatsoever, so I opted for the
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five month course.
So I did my training, did myclassroom field exercises.
Training worked on it because Iwas pretty bad as far as
maneuvers Driving I was good butmaneuvers it was a problem.
So I just, you know, I would goto class.
Classes were broken down inthree segments, so morning,
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afternoon and evening.
I would literally, when we'reout in the field, I would go to
the morning, afternoon andevening sessions to get extra
practice time in, to kind of getmy skills better, and I
ultimately passed my test inAugust of 2022.
I ultimately passed my test inAugust of 2022, and I was on the
road with a mega carrier inDecember of that same year.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Man, that's awesome.
Great for those out therelooking for a career change or
doing something new.
You're giving them insight asto you know what goes on behind
all that.
I mean, do you remember yourfirst time on the road?
Maybe a?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
solo run.
What was going through yourhead, Gosh?
I'll tell you one thing thatI'll never forget Uh, my first
day with my trainer.
Uh, we were out in Colorado andhe just threw me to the wolves.
He literally put me in thetruck and we went down this
mountain in the snow, which Ilater found out was, Gosh, what
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do you call that?
There's a?
It might've been, it might'vebeen Monarch Pass.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
That, oh my, I thought I was going to die that
day, man.
I was like there's like norailings, it's snowing, it's icy
, and you're going and there'sjust these curves with this 9%
grade and it felt like it wenton forever, Like I literally was
doing like 29 miles per hourdown that hill, down that
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mountain and yeah, that was myintroduction to trucking.
Like he just threw me out there.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And so he went to sleep?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Did he go back, go to ?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
sleep.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh no, no, no, no.
He was in the passenger seat.
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
Um and I.
I trained with him for fourweeks driving across the United
States.
I'm just learning everything Icould.
He's a pretty good trainer.
Definitely taught me a lot,because I've heard some horror
stories with trainers, so I'mglad I had a good one yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We can get bad.
Yeah, I've heard stories, wow.
So the good, the hard and theunexpected.
What has it been your favoritepart of your career so far that
you want to highlight, to kindof, you know, help people out
and say, hey, I want to makethis decision.
Let's focus on somethingpositive.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
You know what One thing trucking will teach you
about.
You'll definitely learn who youreally are when it comes to
trucking and the challenges youface and what you're made of as
a person, because trucking canbe extremely challenging
physically, definitely mentally.
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I don't think a lot of truckerstalk about the mental aspect of
being out on the road my firsttime going out alone.
I was out for 10 weeks.
I went out there for 10 weekszigzagging the country,
definitely scared, nervous attimes, but it's something you
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got to tell yourself.
Hey, it's do or die.
I would say my favorite momentwas getting to the point where I
could comfortably back into aspot without being nervous.
Just I'm like, oh, wow, okay, Igot this.
I'm like I'm like one of theguys now.
So you know small victorieslike that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Nice, I know that feeling.
When you have a bad backing dayit really makes you kind of
second guess yourself.
But when you have those good,ones man, yeah, definitely right
.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
On the flip side, what's the most frustrating or
challenging part about trucking?
Maybe people don't always see.
Let's be honest with people.
You keep it real right.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
You know what, um, when it comes to this trucking
thing, uh, patience is a virtue.
You have to have patience.
I learned that from my socialwork days, so definitely had
that.
And you also have to know thatjust just dealing with people
because, um, shippers dealingwith people, because shippers
dealing with shippers I mean,sometimes those guys are rude to
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you for no reason you just gotto learn how to keep your
composure, have a positiveattitude.
Things are not going to go asplanned.
Every time in tripping you cansay, hey, I plan on getting this
, this and this done, and a lotof times that doesn't happen.
You've just got to roll withthe punches, you got to
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improvise, you got to pivot anddo what you got to do to get the
job done.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So if you could go back to you know, give yourself
an advice for starting out firstyear, what would you say?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Don't expect to make a lot of money, would you say,
Don't expect to make a lot ofmoney.
I think what I've learned, whatI've realized, is that when you
go to school, they don't tellyou about the pitfalls of what
you experienced out there,especially in your first couple
of years.
I think if they did, a lot ofpeople wouldn't sign up.
(10:33):
You are not going to make a lotof money in your first year,
especially if you're with a megacarrier, because you're new.
You got to pay your dues.
The pay is low and it can befrustrating at times.
Definitely During that time,learn about the industry.
Learn about what kind offreight you want to haul.
(11:02):
I knew very quickly that Iwanted to get into hazmat.
Drive-in's good, you knowreefer's good and you know all
those other ones, but they allhave their seasons.
I knew I wanted to do hazmatbecause, especially when it
comes to waste, there's alwayswaste that needs to be
transferred and destroyed.
So I knew that was a consistentgig.
So that's why I got my hazmatendorsements before I even hit
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the road.
I got everything, Went to DMV,took all the tests and got
everything.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Wow, let's talk hazmat.
You know it's not for everyone.
What made you decide to getyour hazmat endorsement?
I know you mentioned it alittle bit there, but, uh,
sometimes people say it's notworth it.
You know, you gotta pay alittle extra, you gotta get the
fingerprint done and thebackground check and, um, what
would you say to thoseindividuals to say that it was,
it was a good decision?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
If you don't have.
You know any.
You know derogatory marks inyour background, I don't see why
you wouldn't get hazmat.
My primary reason for gettinghazmat was to separate myself
from other drivers.
I knew that not every driverhas hazmat and there may be
companies that pay a littlebetter that are looking for
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drivers who have hazmatexperience.
Or even if you don't have theexperience, some companies will
take a chance on you and they'rewilling to teach you.
So I saw it as a key toseparate myself from other
drivers.
Getting my hazmat also gettingmy TWIC as well.
Not every driver has their TWICor have the ability to get the
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TWIC, so I just thought thatgetting that would separate
myself from other drivers.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Tell us about the TWIC.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Oh so the TWIC.
It grants you access to all theports throughout the United
States and I've picked up a.
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I lost you there.
I can cut that out, no problem.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Can you hear me now?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
All right, sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
About the.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Twiq.
Yeah, so basically Twiq grantsyou access to all the ports.
You just got to get yourfingerprints done.
They run your background.
In about a week they send it toyou in the mail.
I've done the Tampa ports,jersey port a couple of times.
Um and a lot of people don'tknow that it doubles as a uh, if
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you're flying out of thecountry or whatever, um, tsa
pre-check, you could also usethat as tsa pre-check, so it's
like a two-in-one.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There you go encouragement for people out
there.
Hey you get.
The hazmat endorsement has aTSA pre-check, so it's like a
two-in-one.
There you go.
Encouragement for people outthere.
Hey you get the Hazmatendorsement Sets you apart from
the rest of the crowd and alsohelps you get on the plane
faster with the Twix and you canbook things for freight
forwarders and things like that.
I mean that's great.
I mean you got that thick bookfor the Hazmat.
How did you study for that?
(14:01):
Everybody gets online and theytry to study, for I mean what it
was like for you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So I, I, I did books, I did apps.
So there are plenty of apps outthere that you can download,
from air brakes to to singles,doubles or whatever that you can
download the same kind of appsfor Hazmat and literally the
questions aren't that hard onthe test.
A lot of the questions you seeon practice tests are very
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similar to the questions you'regoing to get on the test.
So just practice, go over it.
Read just to the point whereyou're confident in.
I can walk in and I know I canpass this test.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Nice, all right.
So can you walk us through yourfirst hazmat haul, or what was
different about it compared toregular loads?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
My first hazmat haul was with my first company and I
hauled paint, so that would beclass three, flammable, and that
was from New Jersey to Michigan.
I um hauling paint for teslaand uh, it was like tesla and
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ford or something like that.
Yeah, those two companies anduh, it wasn't bad.
Um, it was one type of uh, onetype of hazmat class, so it was
pretty easy.
Now the company that I'm withnow it's like hazmat on steroids
you can haul from one type ofhazmat to about four or five,
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six different types of hazmatsthat require specialized
placarding.
You know bulk placarding.
That's when you really got toknow what types of not every
hazmat type can go with eachother.
You got to know separation,segregation, those types of
rules, and so you really justgot to study.
I don't, I still don't knoweverything.
Every day I'm learning, butit's, you know, something you
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build on every day.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Nice, that's great, and you got to carry some straps
with you, right.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh, always, you got to have straps.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Got to have straps man.
Explain the straps for peoplethat don't understand that one.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So the type of hazmat that I haul is a dry van hazmat
, usually in bulk containersbarrels, totes, that type of
thing and pretty uh, pretty much.
Um.
As far as loading, we have astaff that loads the stuff for
us.
My job is to, while I'm onroute, just to make sure that
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stuff doesn't shift, it stays inplace.
Um, tightening up the straps,making sure everything's good to
go periodically, um, withanything you'll have spills.
That's when I have to call inthe specialized hazmat cleanup
crew.
They come in, they do theirthing, secure the load, do the
cleanup and I'm back on my way.
So straps are definitely.
Knowing how things are supposedto be stacked properly so you
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don't have incidents like thatis very key.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Nice, Nice, yeah, In case there's a everywhere, an
accident or fire and you want toprotect the people you're the
public and yourself, and also,of course, the dollars of the
load and things like that.
So that's good, yeah.
What's some commonmisconceptions about hazmat
driving?
You know those trucks.
What do you think people shouldmiss?
You know and understand betterif they have some
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misunderstandings.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I think a lot of drivers from just talking to
other drivers, they think thatit's hard.
The test is hard, like it'sthis ultimate SAT test type
thing.
It's not.
It really isn't that hard.
Does it require some studying?
Yes, is it scary?
Is it potentially dangerous?
Yes, is it scary.
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Is it potentially dangerous?
Yes, got to do your best to doeverything within your power to
follow the rules.
Make sure everything followingsafety precautions is definitely
top priority when you'redealing with hazmat.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Speaking of spills, what do you carry with you?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Gosh, I think the question should be what don't I
carry?
What don't I carry?
It could be anything fromcorrosives uh batteries bulbs uh
it could be uh.
Human waste um, it could be aflammable type.
Liquids uh jet fuel.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I've hauled a lot of that stuff so, if there's a
spill, what do you have thatwill, um you know, help contain
it?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
So, um, let's say I've had.
My first spill was last year, Ithink March of last year.
Um, thankfully it was nonhazmat, it was, uh, pretty much
dirty water, but still it stillhas to be treated the same.
Um, I called, called there's anumber that we have that were
called uh in in the event of aspill.
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Um, I kind of assessed it.
There's nothing I can do really.
I don't have the hazmat suit oranything like that to go and,
you know, mitigate the issuemyself, but, um, I I make sure
that the public around me isaware is safe.
I remember one time I did have aspill with that dirty water
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incident where I didn't knowwhat the liquid was.
There happened to be a truckdriver that was pretty close to
the area that was smoking.
I quickly told him hey, I havea spill, I'm hauling hazmat.
Some of it is flammable, youcan't smoke around here.
He quickly got up out of here.
Yeah, so what I could do isensure the safety of the public
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around me and just wait untilthat hazmat cleanup crew comes
and takes care of the situation.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Nice Great work.
Social media storytellingyou've been documenting your
journey on TikTok and Facebook.
That's why I like to reach outto individuals doing those
things, because it helps bringawareness.
Tiktok is a great platform todo that to educate people.
What inspired you to startsharing your story online?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Anyone who's interested in taking that step
and getting into the truckingindustry.
I just want to show them whatit's really like, the ups, the
downs.
You know just what trucking isall about.
I mean, you have people outthere that you know.
Just show the good side oftrucking.
There's some bad parts too.
I mean some frustrating partstoo.
It's not everything is not.
(20:37):
You know hunky dory and justroses all the time.
Trucking can be frustrating.
So I try to show everyone.
You know the good, the bad, theugly.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Have you had any memorable messages or comments
from people that reminded you ofwhy you started out in the
first place?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I actually had several messages from people
saying, hey, I got into truckingbecause I saw your video, so
that's always uplifting, youknow.
People say, hey, I just got myCDL.
I watched your videos, alongwith other content creators'
videos, and that's always coolto know that you help someone.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Nice.
Always cool to know that youhelp someone, nice.
And what kind of feedback doyou get when other drivers reach
out, you know, or even peoplethinking about getting into
trucking?
Do they kind of give you anyyou know feedback as to?
You know how it turned out forthem, how school was, or
anything Maybe you can speak tothat.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I try to show everyone as
much of the trucking aspect aspossible.
So I've had people reach out tome saying hey, I didn't know
this before I saw your video.
They ask about how do I get toHazmat?
I tell them I always encouragepeople to get all your
endorsements prior to hittingthe road, because that's when
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you have the most time,especially if you're going to be
an OTR regional driver.
Get all that stuff done whileyou're in school.
It's the easiest time to do itthat's right nice.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
So life on the road um, I mean, man, you're doing it
.
Um, what?
What does a typical week looklike for you, for listeners out
there to hear?
You know?
This is what it's like for you.
You know you're out here makingit work, man.
What does it look like?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
well, what's all?
What's cool about my gig now isthat I have a dedicated route.
I run from the northeast to thesouth.
Pretty much every week I'llgrab a freight load from
somewhere in the south, I bringit back to the northeast.
My terminal is about 45 minutesfrom where I live, so a lot of
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times I get to reset at home anddo the same thing the next week
Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So you have a favorite truck stop or favorite
place you'd like to reset andkind of kick back and say, hey,
man, this is my spot man, I haveseveral.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
uh, rayfiend, rayfiend, virginia, exit 205 off
of the 81.
That, uh, that uh.
Petro, there it's like I thinkit has 715 parking spots.
It's one of the largest truckstops in the country.
Another favorite of mine isCookville, tennessee, exit 288
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off of the 40.
That's another favorite of mine.
I think they just renovatedthat one, so it's about a year
or so that that they renovatedand that one's pretty nice.
Oh, what other ones.
Carlisle, pa, the Petra overthere.
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I like to reset over there Alot of times.
There's plenty of likerestaurants and and stores and
everything to go to in that area, so that's one of the reasons I
like to stop there.
So I have quite a few, quite afew.
Yeah, uh, iron skillet yep,they got the iron skillet there
too.
Yeah, you know, you know, yeah,definitely so we're trying to
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encompass it all.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We're trying to help individuals.
Um, you mentioned a few thingsabout how hard trucking can be
on your mental health and yourphysical health.
How do you stay mentally andphysically healthy while out?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
on the road uh, talking to other drivers.
Um, there's a discord platformthat I talked to that I use and
I you talk to other drivers.
Just you know, talking to otherdrivers on on the phone, um,
family's important, keeping intouch with family, um, that's.
That's pretty much how I kindof stay, even keeled.
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It's always good to talk tosomebody, man, because life can
get lonely here on the road.
A lot of people don'tunderstand some of the
challenges that truck drivers gothrough, so it's definitely
good to talk to someone.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, yeah, for real, and a lot of people are
listening to podcasts.
So all the listeners out there,if you like what you hear and
like what we're talking about,man, share it with another
trucker out there.
Like what we're talking about?
I mean, share it with anothertrucker out there.
So we're trying to help peoplebecause podcasting is a nice way
where you can listen to thingswhile you're out on the road and
still get educated andencouraged.
So positive message isimportant, awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Oh, yeah, most definitely.
So looking ahead, where do yousee yourself?
You know trucking five yearsfrom now, or looking to stay in
a driver's seat, or maybementoring dispatch or something
else At some point.
I am looking to get intobrokering.
At this point I'm just tryingto learn more of the driver's
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side of it so that way, once Ido get into brokering, I know
what drivers are going through.
A lot of times you have peoplethat get into trucking and
they've never been a driver.
They don't know what drivers gothrough.
So there's that disconnect.
Some people just look atdrivers as robots Okay, drive
from here to there.
So just trying to get thatunderstanding from the driver's
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point of view and then takingthat experience that I've
learned and putting that intobrokering.
But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You got to have a you know something else to keep
your mind occupied, and, I think, the broker carrier I think
that's all a great industry aswell.
A lot of great people in theredoing great things.
A lot of systems that are beingadvanced.
The technology in it is insaneIf you can get your hands on it
and those TMS systems, or evenif it's AI-assisted, you know a
platform that helps out andthat's great.
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So, yeah, a good thing to lookforward to in the future.
I think I encourage you tofollow your dreams and keep
doing stuff you're passionateabout, because I think that's
going to make not just working,but make every day enjoyable.
So, thank you so much forsharing that your insights.
I think it's going to beencouraging for a lot of people
out there that are driving truckor trying to figure out what
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they want to do if they want todrive truck.
So thank you so much.
I appreciate you having me manyeah, so yeah, let's wrap it up
before we close out.
What's one thing you wish foreveryone, especially people out
there in the industry, tounderstand about trucking?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Truck drivers are people too, man, a lot of people
.
They see these big trucks onthe road and they cut us off all
the time.
Our job is to keep ourselvessafe along with others around us
.
So just people who aren'tfamiliar with trucks
four-wheelers just have somecourtesy for truck drivers out
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there.
Don't cut us off, you know.
Don't give us the middle finger, don't curse us out.
We're people too.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
All right.
So where can people follow youor get some of that great TikTok
story and just hear about howthings are going with you and
your journey with trucking?
Where can they reach out to you?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
On all platforms at Drew the Trucker, so at Drew dot
the dot trucker, on allplatforms.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Nice, that's really good man.
Thank you, andrew again forbeing here and sharing your
stories, your tips, your realtalk that you share and always,
you know I say trucking isn'tjust a job, it's a lifestyle.
Share and always, you know, Isay trucking isn't just a job,
it's a lifestyle.
And for you know, if you'regiving people a window into that
life, I think that's going tobe really inspirational for
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people and a lot of honesty andheart that you're putting into
this.
So, for everyone listening,make sure you check out Andrew
on TikTok and Facebook.
I'll drop the link here in theshow notes.
Keep showing your love to thepeople out there.
Andrew, I appreciate you movingthe freight and telling the
truth about it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I appreciate it, man have a good one.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, you as well.
Until next time.
Keep it safe out there, keep itsteady and, as always, that's
Delivered.
Welcome back to that's Delivered.
I'm your host, trucking Ray,and today I'm joined by Andrew
Golding, a trucker that's foundon TikTok.
He gives a lot of storytellingthere.
He keeps it real about life onthe road.
He shares the good, the toughand everything in between, and I
know I had to have him on theshow.
So we're going to talk abouthow he got into trucking, what's
he learned about trucking, hisasthmatic experience and why
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sharing his journey onlinematters.
Andrew, thanks for joining ustoday on the show.
We'll go ahead and talk aboutwhy trucking is important for
you and what it really lookslike.
So let's get into it.
Andrew, welcome to the show.
I love it, you're out in thetruck, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'm good how you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Awesome Having a good day over here.
I mean, good weather alwaysmakes for a good day.
Oh, yeah, most definitely Justkind of talk about what you're
doing.
I know you're doing a lot thereon social media helping
truckers out there or anybodythat's curious about trucking.
How did it all get started withyou and trucking?
How did you get in the seat?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh gosh, I have to go back to 2022.
So prior to trucking, I was acontract worker, so I did like
Uber, lyft and also medicaltransport, which is where I made
most of my money.
Prior to the pandemic,everything was good.
(01:31):
Then, when the pandemic hit,everything just pretty much
slowed down because I was incharge of taking groups of
people from Connecticut, so Ihad from one end of Connecticut
to their different appointmentsand it was a pretty good gig.
I got paid well $1 per mileplus $6 per head, so I had about
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six or seven people throughoutthe week, monday through Friday,
and definitely was making adecent living doing it.
Pandemic hit, that all slowedup.
We couldn't multi-load peopleanymore.
It really wasn't worth itmaking multiple trips.
So I got out of that.
During that time started aroadside rescue company with my
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cousin Travis and that was goinggood, but it still wasn't as
much as I was making.
Prior to that, and to take it astep back, prior to contract
work and 1099 work, I was also asocial worker.
(02:50):
So I was a social worker forfour years in the geriatric
field, so I worked in a coupleof nursing homes.
I was also a caseworker, so Iworked primarily with the
elderly facilities I worked at.
We had a contract with the VAhospital, so my job was to
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maintain that contract and makesure that their clients were
happy.
And after that, I 2016, I gotlaid off.
There were cuts across theboard.
I happened to be one of thepeople cut because, you know,
last one hired, first one fired.
You know how that goes.
Yeah and and uh.
After I got laid off, I just myheart wasn't in social work
(03:34):
anymore.
So I said you know, let's dosomething different.
Started doing uber for five orsix years, along with other um
gig jobs, and then how I gotinto trucking was things were
slow.
I needed to make a pivot.
I called one of our localschools in Connecticut.
They came to my house andbefore I knew it that next week
(03:57):
I was in class of March of 2022.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You said they came to your house.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, actually, I literally called them just to
inquire.
I'll be at your house tomorrow,Did like a quick interview type
thing, and I was enrolled inclass next week.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Wow, I like that concept, real, personal, like
that.
Yeah, before someone goessomewhere else, you just go to
them and make sure that theymake a decision.
I like that.
I didn't have that one.
What was it like possessing orgetting your CDL?
(04:37):
Was it what you expected?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I didn't know what to expect, to be honest, going to
school I did.
They had an option of doing atwo month course.
I guess those people that weresomewhat familiar with trucking,
maybe in their previous countrythat they lived in, they had
some kind of experience.
I had no type of experiencewhatsoever, so I opted for the
(05:04):
five month course.
So I did my training, did myclassroom field exercises.
Training worked on it because Iwas pretty bad as far as
maneuvers Driving I was good butmaneuvers it was a problem.
So I just, you know, I would goto class.
Classes were broken down inthree segments, so morning,
(05:27):
afternoon and evening.
I would literally, when we'reout in the field, I would go to
the morning, afternoon andevening sessions to get extra
practice time in, to kind of getmy skills better, and I
ultimately passed my test inAugust of 2022.
I ultimately passed my test inAugust of 2022, and I was on the
road with a mega carrier inDecember of that same year.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Man, that's awesome.
Great for those out therelooking for a career change or
doing something new.
You're giving them insight asto you know what goes on behind
all that.
I mean, do you remember yourfirst time on the road?
Maybe a?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
solo run.
What was going through yourhead, Gosh?
I'll tell you one thing thatI'll never forget Uh, my first
day with my trainer.
Uh, we were out in Colorado andhe just threw me to the wolves.
He literally put me in thetruck and we went down this
mountain in the snow, which Ilater found out was, Gosh, what
(06:28):
do you call that?
There's a?
It might've been, it might'vebeen Monarch Pass.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
That, oh my, I thought I was going to die that
day, man.
I was like there's like norailings, it's snowing, it's icy
, and you're going and there'sjust these curves with this 9%
grade and it felt like it wenton forever, Like I literally was
doing like 29 miles per hourdown that hill, down that
(06:55):
mountain and yeah, that was myintroduction to trucking.
Like he just threw me out there.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And so he went to sleep?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Did he go back, go to ?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
sleep.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh no, no, no, no.
He was in the passenger seat.
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
Um and I.
I trained with him for fourweeks driving across the United
States.
I'm just learning everything Icould.
He's a pretty good trainer.
Definitely taught me a lot,because I've heard some horror
stories with trainers, so I'mglad I had a good one yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We can get bad.
Yeah, I've heard stories, wow.
So the good, the hard and theunexpected.
What has it been your favoritepart of your career so far that
you want to highlight, to kindof, you know, help people out
and say, hey, I want to makethis decision.
Let's focus on somethingpositive.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
You know what One thing trucking will teach you
about.
You'll definitely learn who youreally are when it comes to
trucking and the challenges youface and what you're made of as
a person, because trucking canbe extremely challenging
physically, definitely mentally.
(08:11):
I don't think a lot of truckerstalk about the mental aspect of
being out on the road my firsttime going out alone.
I was out for 10 weeks.
I went out there for 10 weekszigzagging the country,
definitely scared, nervous attimes, but it's something you
(08:33):
got to tell yourself.
Hey, it's do or die.
I would say my favorite momentwas getting to the point where I
could comfortably back into aspot without being nervous.
Just I'm like, oh, wow, okay, Igot this.
I'm like I'm like one of theguys now.
So you know small victorieslike that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Nice, I know that feeling.
When you have a bad backing dayit really makes you kind of
second guess yourself.
But when you have those good,ones man, yeah, definitely right
.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
On the flip side, what's the most frustrating or
challenging part about trucking?
Maybe people don't always see.
Let's be honest with people.
You keep it real right.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
You know what, um, when it comes to this trucking
thing, uh, patience is a virtue.
You have to have patience.
I learned that from my socialwork days, so definitely had
that.
And you also have to know thatjust just dealing with people
because, um, shippers dealingwith people, because shippers
dealing with shippers I mean,sometimes those guys are rude to
(09:38):
you for no reason you just gotto learn how to keep your
composure, have a positiveattitude.
Things are not going to go asplanned.
Every time in tripping you cansay, hey, I plan on getting this
, this and this done, and a lotof times that doesn't happen.
You've just got to roll withthe punches, you got to
(09:59):
improvise, you got to pivot anddo what you got to do to get the
job done.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So if you could go back to you know, give yourself
an advice for starting out firstyear, what would you say?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Don't expect to make a lot of money, would you say,
Don't expect to make a lot ofmoney.
I think what I've learned, whatI've realized, is that when you
go to school, they don't tellyou about the pitfalls of what
you experienced out there,especially in your first couple
of years.
I think if they did, a lot ofpeople wouldn't sign up.
(10:33):
You are not going to make a lotof money in your first year,
especially if you're with a megacarrier, because you're new.
You got to pay your dues.
The pay is low and it can befrustrating at times.
Definitely During that time,learn about the industry.
Learn about what kind offreight you want to haul.
(11:02):
I knew very quickly that Iwanted to get into hazmat.
Drive-in's good, you knowreefer's good and you know all
those other ones, but they allhave their seasons.
I knew I wanted to do hazmatbecause, especially when it
comes to waste, there's alwayswaste that needs to be
transferred and destroyed.
So I knew that was a consistentgig.
So that's why I got my hazmatendorsements before I even hit
(11:25):
the road.
I got everything, Went to DMV,took all the tests and got
everything.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Wow, let's talk hazmat.
You know it's not for everyone.
What made you decide to getyour hazmat endorsement?
I know you mentioned it alittle bit there, but, uh,
sometimes people say it's notworth it.
You know, you gotta pay alittle extra, you gotta get the
fingerprint done and thebackground check and, um, what
would you say to thoseindividuals to say that it was,
it was a good decision?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
If you don't have.
You know any.
You know derogatory marks inyour background, I don't see why
you wouldn't get hazmat.
My primary reason for gettinghazmat was to separate myself
from other drivers.
I knew that not every driverhas hazmat and there may be
companies that pay a littlebetter that are looking for
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drivers who have hazmatexperience.
Or even if you don't have theexperience, some companies will
take a chance on you and they'rewilling to teach you.
So I saw it as a key toseparate myself from other
drivers.
Getting my hazmat also gettingmy TWIC as well.
Not every driver has their TWICor have the ability to get the
(12:34):
TWIC, so I just thought thatgetting that would separate
myself from other drivers.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Tell us about the TWIC.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Oh so the TWIC.
It grants you access to all theports throughout the United
States and I've picked up a.
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I lost you there.
I can cut that out, no problem.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Can you hear me now?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
All right, sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
About the.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Twiq.
Yeah, so basically Twiq grantsyou access to all the ports.
You just got to get yourfingerprints done.
They run your background.
In about a week they send it toyou in the mail.
I've done the Tampa ports,jersey port a couple of times.
Um and a lot of people don'tknow that it doubles as a uh, if
(13:32):
you're flying out of thecountry or whatever, um, tsa
pre-check, you could also usethat as tsa pre-check, so it's
like a two-in-one.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There you go encouragement for people out
there.
Hey you get.
The hazmat endorsement has aTSA pre-check, so it's like a
two-in-one.
There you go.
Encouragement for people outthere.
Hey you get the Hazmatendorsement Sets you apart from
the rest of the crowd and alsohelps you get on the plane
faster with the Twix and you canbook things for freight
forwarders and things like that.
I mean that's great.
I mean you got that thick bookfor the Hazmat.
How did you study for that?
(14:01):
Everybody gets online and theytry to study, for I mean what it
was like for you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So I, I, I did books, I did apps.
So there are plenty of apps outthere that you can download,
from air brakes to to singles,doubles or whatever that you can
download the same kind of appsfor Hazmat and literally the
questions aren't that hard onthe test.
A lot of the questions you seeon practice tests are very
(14:30):
similar to the questions you'regoing to get on the test.
So just practice, go over it.
Read just to the point whereyou're confident in.
I can walk in and I know I canpass this test.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Nice, all right.
So can you walk us through yourfirst hazmat haul, or what was
different about it compared toregular loads?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
My first hazmat haul was with my first company and I
hauled paint, so that would beclass three, flammable, and that
was from New Jersey to Michigan.
I um hauling paint for teslaand uh, it was like tesla and
(15:12):
ford or something like that.
Yeah, those two companies anduh, it wasn't bad.
Um, it was one type of uh, onetype of hazmat class, so it was
pretty easy.
Now the company that I'm withnow it's like hazmat on steroids
you can haul from one type ofhazmat to about four or five,
(15:35):
six different types of hazmatsthat require specialized
placarding.
You know bulk placarding.
That's when you really got toknow what types of not every
hazmat type can go with eachother.
You got to know separation,segregation, those types of
rules, and so you really justgot to study.
I don't, I still don't knoweverything.
Every day I'm learning, butit's, you know, something you
(15:58):
build on every day.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Nice, that's great, and you got to carry some straps
with you, right.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh, always, you got to have straps.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Got to have straps man.
Explain the straps for peoplethat don't understand that one.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So the type of hazmat that I haul is a dry van hazmat
, usually in bulk containersbarrels, totes, that type of
thing and pretty uh, pretty much.
Um.
As far as loading, we have astaff that loads the stuff for
us.
My job is to, while I'm onroute, just to make sure that
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stuff doesn't shift, it stays inplace.
Um, tightening up the straps,making sure everything's good to
go periodically, um, withanything you'll have spills.
That's when I have to call inthe specialized hazmat cleanup
crew.
They come in, they do theirthing, secure the load, do the
cleanup and I'm back on my way.
So straps are definitely.
Knowing how things are supposedto be stacked properly so you
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don't have incidents like thatis very key.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Nice, Nice, yeah, In case there's a everywhere, an
accident or fire and you want toprotect the people you're the
public and yourself, and also,of course, the dollars of the
load and things like that.
So that's good, yeah.
What's some commonmisconceptions about hazmat
driving?
You know those trucks.
What do you think people shouldmiss?
You know and understand betterif they have some
(17:21):
misunderstandings.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I think a lot of drivers from just talking to
other drivers, they think thatit's hard.
The test is hard, like it'sthis ultimate SAT test type
thing.
It's not.
It really isn't that hard.
Does it require some studying?
Yes, is it scary?
Is it potentially dangerous?
Yes, is it scary.
(17:59):
Is it potentially dangerous?
Yes, got to do your best to doeverything within your power to
follow the rules.
Make sure everything followingsafety precautions is definitely
top priority when you'redealing with hazmat.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Speaking of spills, what do you carry with you?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Gosh, I think the question should be what don't I
carry?
What don't I carry?
It could be anything fromcorrosives uh batteries bulbs uh
it could be uh.
Human waste um, it could be aflammable type.
Liquids uh jet fuel.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I've hauled a lot of that stuff so, if there's a
spill, what do you have thatwill, um you know, help contain
it?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
So, um, let's say I've had.
My first spill was last year, Ithink March of last year.
Um, thankfully it was nonhazmat, it was, uh, pretty much
dirty water, but still it stillhas to be treated the same.
Um, I called, called there's anumber that we have that were
called uh in in the event of aspill.
(19:06):
Um, I kind of assessed it.
There's nothing I can do really.
I don't have the hazmat suit oranything like that to go and,
you know, mitigate the issuemyself, but, um, I I make sure
that the public around me isaware is safe.
I remember one time I did have aspill with that dirty water
(19:26):
incident where I didn't knowwhat the liquid was.
There happened to be a truckdriver that was pretty close to
the area that was smoking.
I quickly told him hey, I havea spill, I'm hauling hazmat.
Some of it is flammable, youcan't smoke around here.
He quickly got up out of here.
Yeah, so what I could do isensure the safety of the public
(19:48):
around me and just wait untilthat hazmat cleanup crew comes
and takes care of the situation.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Nice Great work.
Social media storytellingyou've been documenting your
journey on TikTok and Facebook.
That's why I like to reach outto individuals doing those
things, because it helps bringawareness.
Tiktok is a great platform todo that to educate people.
What inspired you to startsharing your story online?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Anyone who's interested in taking that step
and getting into the truckingindustry.
I just want to show them whatit's really like, the ups, the
downs.
You know just what trucking isall about.
I mean, you have people outthere that you know.
Just show the good side oftrucking.
There's some bad parts too.
I mean some frustrating partstoo.
It's not everything is not.
(20:37):
You know hunky dory and justroses all the time.
Trucking can be frustrating.
So I try to show everyone.
You know the good, the bad, theugly.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Have you had any memorable messages or comments
from people that reminded you ofwhy you started out in the
first place?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I actually had several messages from people
saying, hey, I got into truckingbecause I saw your video, so
that's always uplifting, youknow.
People say, hey, I just got myCDL.
I watched your videos, alongwith other content creators'
videos, and that's always coolto know that you help someone.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Nice.
Always cool to know that youhelp someone, nice.
And what kind of feedback doyou get when other drivers reach
out, you know, or even peoplethinking about getting into
trucking?
Do they kind of give you anyyou know feedback as to?
You know how it turned out forthem, how school was, or
anything Maybe you can speak tothat.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I try to show everyone as
much of the trucking aspect aspossible.
So I've had people reach out tome saying hey, I didn't know
this before I saw your video.
They ask about how do I get toHazmat?
I tell them I always encouragepeople to get all your
endorsements prior to hittingthe road, because that's when
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you have the most time,especially if you're going to be
an OTR regional driver.
Get all that stuff done whileyou're in school.
It's the easiest time to do itthat's right nice.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
So life on the road um, I mean, man, you're doing it
.
Um, what?
What does a typical week looklike for you, for listeners out
there to hear?
You know?
This is what it's like for you.
You know you're out here makingit work, man.
What does it look like?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
well, what's all?
What's cool about my gig now isthat I have a dedicated route.
I run from the northeast to thesouth.
Pretty much every week I'llgrab a freight load from
somewhere in the south, I bringit back to the northeast.
My terminal is about 45 minutesfrom where I live, so a lot of
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times I get to reset at home anddo the same thing the next week
Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So you have a favorite truck stop or favorite
place you'd like to reset andkind of kick back and say, hey,
man, this is my spot man, I haveseveral.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
uh, rayfiend, rayfiend, virginia, exit 205 off
of the 81.
That, uh, that uh.
Petro, there it's like I thinkit has 715 parking spots.
It's one of the largest truckstops in the country.
Another favorite of mine isCookville, tennessee, exit 288
(23:15):
off of the 40.
That's another favorite of mine.
I think they just renovatedthat one, so it's about a year
or so that that they renovatedand that one's pretty nice.
Oh, what other ones.
Carlisle, pa, the Petra overthere.
(23:35):
I like to reset over there Alot of times.
There's plenty of likerestaurants and and stores and
everything to go to in that area, so that's one of the reasons I
like to stop there.
So I have quite a few, quite afew.
Yeah, uh, iron skillet yep,they got the iron skillet there
too.
Yeah, you know, you know, yeah,definitely so we're trying to
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encompass it all.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We're trying to help individuals.
Um, you mentioned a few thingsabout how hard trucking can be
on your mental health and yourphysical health.
How do you stay mentally andphysically healthy while out?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
on the road uh, talking to other drivers.
Um, there's a discord platformthat I talked to that I use and
I you talk to other drivers.
Just you know, talking to otherdrivers on on the phone, um,
family's important, keeping intouch with family, um, that's.
That's pretty much how I kindof stay, even keeled.
(24:31):
It's always good to talk tosomebody, man, because life can
get lonely here on the road.
A lot of people don'tunderstand some of the
challenges that truck drivers gothrough, so it's definitely
good to talk to someone.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, yeah, for real, and a lot of people are
listening to podcasts.
So all the listeners out there,if you like what you hear and
like what we're talking about,man, share it with another
trucker out there.
Like what we're talking about?
I mean, share it with anothertrucker out there.
So we're trying to help peoplebecause podcasting is a nice way
where you can listen to thingswhile you're out on the road and
still get educated andencouraged.
So positive message isimportant, awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Oh, yeah, most definitely.
So looking ahead, where do yousee yourself?
You know trucking five yearsfrom now, or looking to stay in
a driver's seat, or maybementoring dispatch or something
else At some point.
I am looking to get intobrokering.
At this point I'm just tryingto learn more of the driver's
(25:24):
side of it so that way, once Ido get into brokering, I know
what drivers are going through.
A lot of times you have peoplethat get into trucking and
they've never been a driver.
They don't know what drivers gothrough.
So there's that disconnect.
Some people just look atdrivers as robots Okay, drive
from here to there.
So just trying to get thatunderstanding from the driver's
(25:46):
point of view and then takingthat experience that I've
learned and putting that intobrokering.
But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You got to have a you know something else to keep
your mind occupied, and, I think, the broker carrier I think
that's all a great industry aswell.
A lot of great people in theredoing great things.
A lot of systems that are beingadvanced.
The technology in it is insaneIf you can get your hands on it
and those TMS systems, or evenif it's AI-assisted, you know a
platform that helps out andthat's great.
(26:16):
So, yeah, a good thing to lookforward to in the future.
I think I encourage you tofollow your dreams and keep
doing stuff you're passionateabout, because I think that's
going to make not just working,but make every day enjoyable.
So, thank you so much forsharing that your insights.
I think it's going to beencouraging for a lot of people
out there that are driving truckor trying to figure out what
(26:38):
they want to do if they want todrive truck.
So thank you so much.
I appreciate you having me manyeah, so yeah, let's wrap it up
before we close out.
What's one thing you wish foreveryone, especially people out
there in the industry, tounderstand about trucking?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Truck drivers are people too, man, a lot of people
.
They see these big trucks onthe road and they cut us off all
the time.
Our job is to keep ourselvessafe along with others around us
.
So just people who aren'tfamiliar with trucks
four-wheelers just have somecourtesy for truck drivers out
(27:18):
there.
Don't cut us off, you know.
Don't give us the middle finger, don't curse us out.
We're people too.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
All right.
So where can people follow youor get some of that great TikTok
story and just hear about howthings are going with you and
your journey with trucking?
Where can they reach out to you?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
On all platforms at Drew the Trucker, so at Drew dot
the dot trucker, on allplatforms.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Nice, that's really good man.
Thank you, andrew again forbeing here and sharing your
stories, your tips, your realtalk that you share and always,
you know I say trucking isn'tjust a job, it's a lifestyle.
Share and always, you know, Isay trucking isn't just a job,
it's a lifestyle.
And for you know, if you'regiving people a window into that
life, I think that's going tobe really inspirational for
(28:05):
people and a lot of honesty andheart that you're putting into
this.
So, for everyone listening,make sure you check out Andrew
on TikTok and Facebook.
I'll drop the link here in theshow notes.
Keep showing your love to thepeople out there.
Andrew, I appreciate you movingthe freight and telling the
truth about it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I appreciate it, man have a good one.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, you as well.
Until next time.
Keep it safe out there, keep itsteady and, as always, that's
Delivered.
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