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Avis (00:10):
Hey, there are beautiful
people and welcome to Season
Two and to another episodeof That's How We Role.
A podcast where I talk withmotivating and inspiring
women who are professionals,entrepreneurs, organization,
leaders, artists, rolemodels, mentors, and so much
more .Today's guest is amezcal expert, Maggie Gomez.
(00:34):
Maggie is the founder anddirector of Coa de Jima
Inc, the agency representingDon Sixto Mezcal, of
which she is a co-founder.
Don Sixto produces sixdifferent types of mezcals,
which have won national andinternational awards throughout
the years of its production.
Maggie graduated fromthe fashion marketing
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program in Toronto.
And graduated with a trendforecasting and haute
coiture diploma in Paris.
We can say that Maggieis a mezcal expert with
a passion for fashion.
So how did Maggie gofrom fashion to mezcal?
Well, we're gonna find outthat and a whole lot more
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as we welcome Maggie Gomez.
Hi, Maggie.
Welcome.
Maggy (01:23):
Hi, how are you?
Avis (01:25):
I'm great.
Thank you.
How are you?
Maggy (01:28):
I'm good as well.
Thank you.
I'm happy to be here.
Avis (01:31):
Oh, thank you.
I'm so glad that you're here.
How is the weather in Toronto?
Maggy (01:36):
So right now it's
pretty sunny, so it's nice.
Avis (01:40):
It's hot here.
So
Maggy (01:42):
it is really hot.
I'm sorry.
Avis (01:44):
oh, okay.
Yes.
And I think the feel liketemperature is like maybe in
the triple digits, so yeah.
But anyway, it'll befall soon and then we'll
all be saying, oh, wow.
I wish I could goto the beach again.
Maggy (01:57):
yes, I know.
We're gonna be like,oh, I missed summer.
Avis (02:01):
Maggy, I wanna talk to
you about your accomplishments
and being a co-founderof this mezcal company.
I wanna find out what's thedifference between mezcal
and tequila questions thatI hear people ask a lot.
How did you come to bethe founder of mezcal?
Maggy (02:18):
So it actually
happened seven years ago.
We were on a familytrip to Oaxaca city.
It was like my parents, my mom,my dad, my two brothers and
me, we were going on a familyvacation to Oaxaca city, but
we got a little bit lost intolike one of the towns and my
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parents, mostly my dad alwayshad a passion for mezcal.
So he was the one who waskind of like pushing a bit
more mezcal into the familybecause he started with
this like trend and wantingto know more about mezcal.
So in that small town, we gotredirected and then they send
us like to a town where mezcalis produced the artisanal way.
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So we ended up meeting thema mezcaleros, so we just
went through the flow and.
Went to drive three hoursuphill to Sola de Vega,
which is a, a town where weproduce our mezcal and we
just got along, met differentMezcaleros, and then they all
welcome us, like pretty nicely.
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And as they do, like normallyin the, their tradition, like
when you get to their, to,to their Palenque, which is
Palenque is the name wherethe mezcal is produced.
It's like the small factoriesthat each producer has.
They offer you mezcalall like all day.
So it is really hard tokeep them through the day.
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But you just, if you sayno, they will just keep on
pushing cuz they wanna makesure your jicarita, which
is half of a coconut shellthat they use as glasses.
It's never empty.
So just, and that's how Iended up getting involved into
the mezcal world because ofmy dad who always had like
this like kind of fashionfor like mezcal, then reading
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the mezcal, we found a gap.
Because no one ofthem were registered.
So in order to call itmezcal and sell it as mezcal,
the Mezcaleros need to becertified by P E M M A XX,
which is the organizationsthat regulate mezcal in Mexico.
So my mom, she has a PhD inBiochemist, which she achieved
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from the university of Duluth.
So she is the one that helpedthem to get registered.
She helped to, to be able tosell their mezcal in a bottle.
Avis (04:45):
So, so wait your mom,
so your mom is a biochemist.
Maggy (04:49):
Yes.
Avis (04:50):
There's certain
regulations that you have to
go through in order to producemezcal or to be a Mezcalero.
First of all, there's just awhole lot of knowledge there.
You went from fashion to mezcal.
Your mother is abiochemist and I guess,.
Okay, that's the naturalprogression of things is
to, is to say, Hey, I'mgonna be a mezcalero now.
Maggy (05:13):
yes.
I mean, we, we arenot the mezcaleros.
We worked with them.
The way mezcal is producedis like the producers are
always going to be theartists, the mezcaleros.
The, the, the people who arefrom the town where the mezcal
is produced and they have passedthe knowledge from centuries.
So they are the ones whoare always going to be
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Mezcaleros and the producers.
But with the knowledge of mymom being a biochemist, we
help them to get their mezcalregulated to pass the norm.
Avis (05:45):
Wow.
So now the other questionis, and, and the reason that
you are here is because thisis the spirits industry, and
there are a lot of men, this,this is an industry that,
that is dominated by men.
And for you.
To be one of the foundersof this company that
has won national andinternational awards.
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Like, how are you met whenyou start talking to people?
And when you started pitchingthe idea that you wanted
to work in mezcal how didpeople react to you as a
woman in this industry?
Maggy (06:21):
So to be honest, there
is like the two types of people
let's say that like the reallyold generations that are used
to like talk to men to men.
Like I've noticed that sometimesI am in a trade show and these,
those people came to us and seeme, and then they rather talk
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to one of my brothers or to myhusband than actually asking
me the questions about themezcal even though sometimes.
I will have more answers.
like, I feel like lately theindustry it's been opening
much more and we can see morefemale leaders in the industry.
So let's say all generations,like are kind of like having
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to open and adapt to the changebecause at least now I've seen
like more girls bartenders.
Female beingambassador of a brand.
So right now it's like gettingmore and more open, but at least
the first two years before,COVID it was a little bit like
more restricted and you haveto get used to, I mean, at
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least me, like I come from thefashion industry where I was
used to work mostly with women.
It was challenging justto show my point and
know that I, I know...
Even though, cause I alsolooked younger, so it was just
like a combination of beinga woman and looking younger.
So like people liketake me really serious.
Avis (07:45):
Yeah.
They would look at youand say, how does she know
anything about mezcal.
Maggy (07:50):
It's like, you don't
know anything, but I, I, I do.
And so when you start likehaving a conversation and
answering their questions, andsometimes people also like in
the industry know about mezcal,but they just wanna challenge
you as long as you are okay.
To be challenged it's it's fine.
Avis (08:10):
Right.
Because you know your stuff.
You know what you'retalking about.
And then also when you dothe people that may have had
that kind of looked at you,like, what does she know?
So now they are going to getto, now they want to know
more about what you're doingand then you become a trusted
figurehead, I guess, is what I'mtrying to say in, in their eyes.
Maggy (08:32):
Yeah, exactly.
Avis (08:33):
And, you know, you, you
mentioned about at Bar Convent
Brooklyn, when this event was,was going on, there were a lot
of female ambassadors for theliquor companies out there.
There were, there werestill a lot of men, but the
women were so on their game.
They were amazing mixologists.
They really brought a lotof things that women bring
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things and men bring things.
And one is not, I'm not sayingone is better than the other,
but they brought a lot ofstuff that men in, in a lot
of cases that, uh, were justtotally different from yeah.
From the men.
So, uh, I appreciate that.
Maggy (09:07):
Yes.
I saw that and I think it, itis, it's really nice to see how
the industry it's getting likemore open and like more females
are just like on their game.
So everybody does theirthings differently and
it makes it more diverse.
Avis (09:24):
This is a, a question
that I know people are gonna
ask the difference betweenmezcal and tequila, besides the
mezcal, having a smokey taste,what is the main difference?
And also the localstores in the area.
When I was looking around,checking out mezcals to
find out more about it,their local one in my area
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says, oh, you know, mezcalsare really hot right now.
He says I had to createa section of mezcals.
Before you answer thequestions about the difference.
Have you noticed that peopleare really gravitating
toward mezcals now?
Maybe more so than before.
And, and if so, how didthis come about what do
you think brought thison besides the pandemic?
(10:06):
Cuz everybody was drinking a lotof stuff during the pandemic.
Maggy (10:09):
So yes, I am seeing
really high, higher amount,
uh, into mezcal than before,but I also think it is because
people now are more consciousabout what they're consuming.
So mezcal.
mezcal in general, it's areally artisanal process.
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It's kind of a mix of culture,history and like, even before
the pandemic, people weregravitating more into being
healthier into looking formore eco friendly or more like
healthy small communities,like more local purchase.
So, and there was like thistrend of like buy local and
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mezcal kind of fall into thisbecause mezcal, I mean, there
is interest mezcal, but it'snot as popular as our seasonal
or central mezcal, which ismade very, very handcrafted.
So I feel like that's whyalso mezcal, it's getting
more popular and also so manymezcals, well, mezcals are
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different, like from regionto region and depending on
the type of agave, also alot of people are relating
or comparing mezcal to wine.
So now there is also likehaving, instead of having wine
test, uh, tasting, they'rehaving mezcal tasting or mezcal
charits to appreciate thedifferent flavor and aroma.
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So I feel like also this hasbeen like pushing the demand
of mezcal and making it grow.
Avis (11:42):
You know, that's
maybe that, that is it.
I mean, people that like wine, Imean, there are definitely gonna
drink wine, but there are also,people that appreciate wine, but
they appreciate other liquorsand then they will want to try
to find out more about them andknow that they're tasting there.
Are you, you said it right.
(12:03):
There are a lot oftequila tastings.
I have not been to a mezcaltasting and I, I must do that.
What is the differencebesides the smokiness,
what is the differencebetween mezcal and tequila?
Maggy (12:14):
Actually all tequilas
are mezcals, but not
all mezcals are tequila.
So let's just say.
So actually tequila, itwill be a type of mezcal,
but it's called tequilabecause of their region.
But if you make tequila or fromblue agave, which is from the
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agave plant where the, wheretequila is incubated in an
other region, example, Oaxaca,then you will be able to call
it mezcal instead of tequila.
So that's one ofthe differences.
Other it's also the process,but lately, uh, some of the
tequila producers are alsonow producing tequila the same
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way as mezcal is produced.
So they're making artisanaltequila and ancestral
tequila, which changes theflavor as well and gives
this like smokiness to it.
So I will say like thedifference between tequila
and mezcal is mostlytequila is industrial.
Mostly because now, because ofthe trend of mezcal, there are
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also tequilas made artisanaland ancestral, and also tequila
has to be made in the tequilaregion to be called tequila.
And it has to be madefrom the blue agave only.
And mezcal.
There are other type ofagaves that mezcal is made.
Avis (13:39):
Don Sixto uses you have
six different types of agave.
So you have six differentflavors of mezcal and
your bottles are beautifulby the way, those, those
bottles are stunning.
The colors, the vividnessof the colors, they
are very recognizable.
The agave.
So let's go back there.
So there's, so you havesix different kinds of agave
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since I started researchingand met you, I found out that
there's 24 or are there more,
Maggy (14:07):
so there are 24, let's
say 24 plus type of agaves
where mezcal is produced from,but there are more than three,
300 of different type ofagaves, but mezcal is produced
from 24 plus type of agave.
Avis (14:25):
Is there a
reason for that?
Maggy (14:26):
I'm not really sure to
be honest, but I think those
are like the, the agaves ismore popular that are found in
the mezcalero area and that's,I guess that's the reason why.
Avis (14:40):
All right.
What did you do in fashion?
And then just, how did youleave fashion or maybe you
haven't left fashion towork in the mezcal business?
Maggy (14:50):
Well, like my whole
career was, was within fashion.
Like I did a bachelor'sdegree in fashion design.
Then I did the throw thatmy bachelor degree was in
Mexico, uh, in fashion design.
And then I went for designingto Paris to do the trend
forecasting in haute couiture.
And then I did, uh, alsodiploma, um, here in Toronto
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about fashion marketing.
Yeah.
So one of my dreams, likewhen I was a kid was just like
work in fashion and becomea fashion designer one day.
But as I grew up, I figuredout that I like what I really
liked more about fashionwas kind of like, not, let's
say, I mean, I love fashion.
I love the trend, but I do not.
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It's not like I don't like tosew or to work as in the design
department because I don't know.
That's how I just switch.
And then I see arise with the mezcal.
So I just started to just getinvolved more and more and more.
And then my passion kind ofled to it, to the mezcal.
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And like, I really like to, do
Avis (16:00):
You have a
new passion now?
Maggy (16:02):
Yeah.
So I still love fashion.
It's still my passion,but I also love mezcal and
I like, it's like, I gotintroduced to this industry,
which is a great industry.
It is a fun industry,also challenging with
a lot of competition,but I also liked it.
Avis (16:24):
Well, speaking of
competition, there are a
lot of newly formed mezcalcompanies out there.
People are always comingout with something new,
but I wanna talk about yourexperience at the Vine expo.
That was the first time thatyou were at the vine expo.
So how was that?
Yes.
Again, you are awoman in the business.
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And there were a lot ofwomen owned businesses there.
There, there were more womenthat were behind brands at
the Vine expo than I haveseen in a really long time.
So that was, that was great.
So I know that here you haveto deal with the men or when
you go to represent yourcompany and you are going to
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a board probably full of menand you as a small woman.
One of the founders of thiscompany, you just, you have
a different, their outlookor their take on you is
gonna be a little different.
So you've, you've won themover 'cause now you're at the
vine expo here in, at the JacobJavits center in New York.
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And how was, howwas your time there?
How was the, theexperience for you?
Maggy (17:31):
So to me, it was a
great, great experience.
It was the first time being onan international trade show.
So for us, everything was newand talking me as a woman,
it was great to see otherwomen also like representing
the brand, being the leaders,cuz a few of them were also
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like working, but one ofthem was the leader and they
have a partner or workingwith someone else as well.
So it was reallynice to see all that.
Uh, just as myself, it'sjust like an industry that
you always have to keep theeyes open and you have to be
careful who you fully trust.
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Cuz there is a lot of,maybe let's say scammers
or people just like wantingto, they, they pretend like
they're gonna purchase.
But sometimes it doesn't happen.
So it is nice and it, it youhave to make sure that you
also make friends, even ifthey are your competitors,
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it's okay to be friends.
Like it's like,it's an industry.
Let's say we have tobe, we, we have to be
friends of our neighbors.
Even though sometimeswe're gonna compete
against each other.
It's okay.
Because that's how you also knowreference about other people or
about distributors that approachto you and they wanna purchase.
Uh, so you need to knowwhere to get your references,
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cuz that's important.
Avis (18:56):
It is it it's
always good to network.
You never know what informationcan be given that can, that
can help your business andwhat you can give to help
someone else's business.
It is always good.
Don Sixto, what's the, theoverall umbrella of the company?
Maggy (19:10):
The company in Mexico,
it's called Groupo Sixtra.
Avis (19:14):
Don Sixto debuted at Bar
Convent, Brooklyn or BCB and
Bar Convent brooklyn is a spacewhere like bar and beverage,
mixologists vendors and sellers,they all come together in
industry city, in Brooklyn,in New York and they celebrate
and educate and share andgenerate business opportunities.
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So it was going back to whatyou were saying before about
knowing your neighbors.
And it really is a great placeto just to meet people and just
to, to get your brand out thereand to see other distributors,
other people that that candistribute your product.
What was your experiencelike this being the
first B C B for you?
Maggy (19:57):
So at BCB, we have like
different type of experiences,
but, or a good day, let's saywas the half of the second day.
It was good.
There, there were a lot ofinterest that in the mezcal
and also cuz we were in thePark Street, Emerging Brands.
It was like a close space.
So we were able to alsointeract with our neighbors.
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And we also were able to see,like, there were also like other
mezcal brands, like launchingor like other adapt launching,
which was good, is good.
I mean, it's more competition,but means that the demand
is rising, which is good.
Um, a good thing to us as well.
Avis (20:35):
Okay.
So you were in theemerging brand section.
So that's where a lot ofthe people that's the first
time that they have been,that, that they have attended
bar convent, Brooklyn.
So they were all there.
There was an award ceremony.
So I don't know whether ornot you won any awards from
bar convent, Brooklyn, butI do know that you do have
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an award-winning mezcal.
So can you talk aboutsome of, any of the awards
that, that really put youat the top of the game?
Maggy (21:04):
Yes, actually, we won 95
points for the Chilled Magazine,
which is a magazine that alsothat sponsored BCB, I think.
So we, when we were, we arefeatured on the competition.
They have it's calledChilled, 100, and, to me,
it's a great achievementbecause we are Don Sixto.
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Don Sixto Coyote is displayedagainst celebrity's mezcal
which we do not have thatproject , but it is nice that
our quality brought us there.
Thanks to mezcal quality is likehow we got featured in there.
So that's, that's likea great achievement.
Avis (21:50):
Wow.
And what was thename of that award?
Maggy (21:53):
Uh, Chilled 100.
Avis (21:55):
Any other ones?
You were in a competitionin 2022, right this year?
Maggy (21:59):
As well.
So we also enter into theNew York, uh, international
spirits competition,which we won as well.
So also it is nice to seeour mezcal because there is
like so many mezcals thatenter into the competition.
Like from family own brands,celebrity-owned mezcals.
And different mezcals.
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So we also won two goldmedals, one with Mezcal
Barril and another withMezcal Coyote again, and one
silver medal, one silver medalwith, uh, Mezcal, Arroqueño.
Avis (22:33):
Oh, wow.
So you're winning awardsall over the place and
I'm sure that you are not,you're not done with that.
Maggy (22:39):
Let's hope not.
Let's hope not,
Avis (22:42):
let's hope not exactly.
Now you, you are a young woman.
There are a lot of youngwomen out there that are, may
be doing something that are,are, or are thinking about
a business, something to doin business that maybe women
don't do that they they'relike, oh, I shouldn't do this.
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What advice do you have foryoung girls or young women
or women that, that may wantto just start something and
maybe it, it is somethingthat other women do.
Maybe it's not a male dominatedfield, but what advice do you
have for women that want tostart anything, any business?
Maggy (23:22):
Just to do it, like,
don't think it too much.
Just do it.
Sometimes we have, wethink it too much and.
Our own touch are theones that are stopping
us from doing something.
It doesn't have to be, youdon't have to have the perfect
business plan or you don't evenhave to have a business plan.
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I mean, you can work through it.
It's just, you have to startand then you will figure it out.
I know.
It's just like, I don't know.
You made like, some peoplewill, will not agree with
my advice, but that's what Ithink, because if you spend
too much time thinking aboutdoing something, sometimes you
ended up not doing anything sothat, that will be my advice.
Avis (24:06):
Because you can kind
of talk yourself out of it.
Maggy (24:08):
Yeah.
Avis (24:09):
You were very young
when you moved to Canada and
started this business and it'snobody's business how old you
are, but you were, you were ayoung person doing, doing this.
And so not only are you a woman,but you are a young woman and
you, and you look very young,but you also have a baby.
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So you are doingall these things.
You took your own advice,that you just gave, you took
your own advice because youhave a baby and it's, and
it's a relatively new baby.
I mean, it's a to, she'sa toddler, but it's a
new baby, nonetheless.
And you were doingall these things.
You have a support system.
So it is important that we dohave, uh, a support system.
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Because you wouldn't beable to do the things.
If you didn't have thebiochemist mom, I mean, you
wouldn't be able to do certainthings, but I believe that
you would've anyway, it mayhave been more of a demand
on you, but I believe thatyou would've done it anyway.
So how has the business beenwith the young child and
your husband is also in thebusiness too, and you're in
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the business with your brother.
So you are surroundedby the most, the closest
people in your circle.
How has that been raising thebaby, raising your child with
help from your husband andyour family, but how has it
been with the business as well?
Women do it all the time,but I, I just wanna know how
it is with your business.
Maggy (25:36):
So it's being honest.
It's been a journey it'sbeen fun and it's been
challenging as well.
Um, because it, it was.
Just let's, it's noteven after COVID because
there is still COVID.
So having to travel with likea toddler to all these trade
shows it, it is challenging.
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The good thing is like, Ialways have the support of
my family and because DonSixto ,so, um, Mezcal, it's
a family business project.
So normally we allgo to the trade show.
So it's like when we go,my mom goes, my dad goes,
my two brothers goes up andmy husband, even though the
last trip to Brooklyn, likehalf of the family cut up.
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So only three of us went.
So I've been having to travelwith my kid and it, it is
not impossible, but it, it,it's important that you have
a trusted circle as well andsupport because without, without
the support of other people,it gets really hard and you
have to learn to delegate.
(26:40):
It is hard as well to delegateas like, uh, their boss,
but you have to know how todelegate stuff because you
can't carry all by yourself.
It gets really hard.
Learn to delegate andhaving a support circle.
It is important to me.
It's like my family thathas always supported me.
So that's how I've been ableto just go and travel to
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the trade shows with my kid.
And it's been no problem.
As a day to day basis.
Yes.
Sometimes I have to waituntil after nap time, just
to reply to all the emailsUm, and I have sometimes just
to stay up a little longer,like up night, just to finish
up working on something orplanning something, which
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anyways, you do it whileyou go to your university.
So , it, it is notlike a big problem.
It's just like you wantingto do something and
finding the way to do it.
Avis (27:38):
So I was gonna ask
you what motivates you
and keeps you motivated?
So I, I have to say, I'm sureyou're a toddler keeps you
very motivated and, and movingall the time, but is there
anything in particular that,that, that motivates you that
keeps you going and keeps youin a creative state of mind
and a business state of mind?
Maggy (27:57):
One thing that gets me
very motivated is to look back
and see what we have achieved.
Cause I remember that whenwe started, it was just a
hobby let's say, cuz we neverthought about getting so, so
big or like going internationalwhen we started this project.
So looking back and seeingwhere we started into where
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we are now, makes me believethat we can achieve more.
And then maybe in some years,we're just gonna look back
and see, oh my God, likewe've achieved so much more.
So this is one of the thingsthat keeps me very motivated.
And to know that I do have, uh,the support of, like everybody
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involved in Groupo Sixtra.
And also another person thatkeeps me very motivated is my
mom, because she also had to,as a woman, like, because she
did all this back in the days,she went to France, learn French
and did a PhD with three kids.
And my dad of course,
Avis (29:03):
Wow.
Yeah.
Maggy (29:03):
So that's
how I was raised.
And that's like my role modelI saw when I was growing.
So that's something like that's,that's why my mom is like
a role model to me as well.
And that's whatkeeps me motivated.
Avis (29:18):
So.
Well, you and your mom area role model and a motivator
for, I think for all of us,I think that I, I definitely,
for me, do you have any wordsof wisdom, anything that you
want to leave people withor make people think about?
Maggy (29:35):
Just if you love
what you're doing or if you
love it, just do it becausewhen, when something is your
passion, Somehow and somedayyou will see results when you
do something with passion.
Avis (29:48):
Passion is, is the key.
You have a passion forfashion and you also have a
passion for mezcal that's whatmakes you a mezcal expert?
So thank you so much,Maggy for being here.
Thank you so much for being on.
I appreciate it.
And if you wanna learn anythingabout Don Sixto mezcal, I
will leave everything inthe, in the show notes.
(30:11):
I will tag Maggy.
If you have any questions, I'mgonna put all the Instagram
and, and Twitter, facebook,whatever you need to get in
touch with Don, Sixto and Maggyand find out more about mezcal.
I will put that information in.
And if you heard somethingtoday that made you say,
ah, please shoot me a DM.
(30:34):
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(30:55):
I am everywhere.
So Maggy, I just want to thankyou once again for coming.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you so much for beinghere on the phone with me.
I just love hearingabout your journey.
This is a fabulous journeyfor you and I just have the
absolute best hopes and thevery best wishes for you in your
business and in your, in yourpursuit of this mezcal passion.
Maggy (31:20):
Thank you.
I was really niceto be here today.
Avis (31:23):
Listen, this
mezcal is fantastic.
Don Sixto look forward inyour local liquor store and
if they don't have it, yougotta, you gotta take, listen.
find out where they'vebeen because they need
to try this mezcal.
Thank you so much forbeing here, everyone.
Thank you for tuning in.
Maggy (31:40):
Thank you.
Avis (31:42):
Thank you so much for
taking the time to listen,
checking out the podcast.
Thank you for invitingme into your space.
And until next time I hopeyou will continue to thrive,
grow and be kind to yourselvesand be kind to others.