'BINGE OR BUST?' Ep. 19- The Curious Case of... Bam Margera part II

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Nobody wanted to take Bamon. You know, nobody wants to
be the bad guy who says no to Bam Margera.
But Lima doesn't mind playing that role, okay, because she's
here to take on the toughest cases of people. I'm
a tough nut, Lima. You want to try to crack me, bitch.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's a good experiment.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
That is so fucked up. It's fucked up, so fucked up.
It is just a damn fun.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's fucked up.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Let's do it. Hey, you guys, welcome back to That's
So fucked Up, a podcast about things that make you
go that's so fucked up. I'm your host, Ashley Love
Richards and I am joined by Christen and we are

(01:02):
back for more of the Curious Case of Van Margera,
the super professional, unbiased docu series.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well found out, well researched.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
If Beth Carris is a journalist, I am definitely a journalist. Okay.
I want to give you that thank you because wow,
this lady. So you guys, I was saying last time
that we did a poll on the Patreon where you
can get at free episodes. You get Ash learns the Bible.

(01:38):
Oh my gosh, that's a fun one. That's like everybody
on the patreons fave. I realized I've been learning about
the Bible for two years now and I still.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Have you retained what you have learned?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Sometimes I need a little recap. I was like, who
had the technicolor coat, Joseph. That's right, it's a lot,
but also, fuck, there's so much. There's at least two
hundred and fifty up episodes that are available only on
the Patreon, not on the regular feed. You get access
to a special discord channel and all kinds of stuff.

(02:09):
We're doing some revamping, but just you know, also, if
you love the podcast and you have like five extra
shekels a month, if we're being biblical Patreon dot com
slash tsife and you know what, just I want to
give a shout out to all of the current patrons,
Thank you guys so much. You help me and the

(02:32):
show a ton. And hey, if you don't have any
extra shekels a month, I fucking get it. Rate subscribe
and review that always super helps. It's definitely been a
hot minute since we got a review, maybe a few months.
It's weird, it's crazy, but just go through droughts so
if you want to leave a review, that would be amazing.
And we just went down from a four point six

(02:54):
to a four point five and that makes me really
sound So if you guys could at least just give
us go five stars, that'll take you like two seconds.
And yes, it'd be so nice.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Share the show with a friend, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Tell a friend, phone a friend. Within a million dollars. No,
I've been wanting to do this for a while too,
because I have been just kind of like lagging. I
feel like on showing as much appreciation as I feel
all the time, Like I'm always super grateful of the

(03:26):
patrons the team, and I don't feel like I say
it enough. So I want to shout out my team.
We've had some people come and go lately, and it's
not because anything bad, Like it's just fucking people have
his life, lives that go on and my life just
continues always to be this. But I want to shout out, well, Kristen,

(03:50):
you and Aaron our other kind of researcher. Fucking We've
had so many good people in the past. Liz just
recently left the team after like a long time because
she's like getting married and like having a lot you know,
a grown up life. I don't think. I don't think
I'm gonna do all that, but love you, babe. Anyways.

(04:11):
Anybody who I don't mention who's not on the team anymore,
you know that I love you, I appreciate you. But
the people who are on the team right now, Kristin
and Aaron, you are killing the research. Super appreciate you, Ryan,
Kim and Gatris Gatrius has been riding or dying with
me for like three fucking years. Gatriss and me is
like the longest TSFU partnership. Shout out to Gatris. I

(04:35):
love you. And Ryan and Kim are also just fucking awesome.
They edit these episodes, you guys, because I can't. I
don't know when the last time I listened to an
episode of the show was because I don't want to
hear me fucking tell a story. With me hearing me
all day, it's enough, you know. And Sophia and Kristin

(04:58):
and shar Uh who are training up to help with
check listens because also, you know, we like to make
sure that uh, it's a smooth audio ride for you
guys as much as possible, and that hopefully I didn't
say something that makes me sound like an asshole because
guess what it happens? And yeah, yeah I tends, But like,

(05:22):
you know, point being is it it takes a little
baby village to run this shit. I have podcasters friends
who do it all themselves, and you know, kudos to them.
I don't know how like I.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know, it seems like a big job.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's a lot. So anyways, I just wanted to shout
y'all out. Oh you know, I was just recently asking
some of y'all, like, what are some of your like
favorite things? You know, is it whiskers on kittens or mittens,
rain drop sun roses? Yeah, nobody said any of those
things weird, But Kristin, why don't you tell the people

(05:58):
like you like you fucking smutty little skank?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Okay, so really I read pretty much anything. I like fantasy.
I like rom com type books. I love romantasy because
who doesn't love dirty shadow?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Daddy, listen, get to the good stuff. Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Right now I am reading Zodiac Academy and it is
a blue bagillion amount of books long. The main series
is like nine plus novella's. There's a prequel series that's
five and then there's a sequel series that's like three.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Or four a lot of material. Hold on, hold on,
hold on. Yeah, I feel like the people are probably like,
what happened to the bam story? You guys are like
super on this book thing now. But I want to
do a tease that at the end of the episode,
we're gonna have crestin like a couple of lines from
one of these books, because she's just been like randomly
sending me screenshots and they've been making my day. And

(06:51):
I was like, did ai I write this or like humans?
And she's like, no, like real humans wrote it, and
then real humans like me read it.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
And we devour it.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Hashtag book talk y'all. That could be a fun subject
one day.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Actually, I will leave everyone with a fun palette cleanser.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, you guys, I think that's gonna be really fun,
especially because I'm gonna be all fucking hot and bothered
and like not in a sexy way at the end
of telling this story. So make sure you stay tuned
until the end of the episode. All for that. Okay,
are you ready to jump back in to the Curious
Case of Bamberg era?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes, I definitely need to know what happens in this
horrific documentary episode because I have not watched it, so I.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Don't know how. Sometimes I'll be breaking down like a
six part documentary in a two hour episode, but I
don't think I actually am able to do that too often.
But this one is actually going to be a three parter,
oh snap, And it was only an hour long episode.
But I think I just have kind of like so
much extra commentary with.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Us, it's kind of hard not to.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
If you guys are not in on all this, then
go back and listen to the Amanda rab episode. Make
sure you listen to part one of this, which we
will put in the show notes, and within the next
couple of weeks either, I don't know, soon soon. I

(08:20):
had Kim Davis from slay Cation on it as a
co host and we did an episode. I'm not gonna
lie you guys. It was super sexy. It was about
the opioid epidemic. Okay, not super sexy, I'm not gonna lie.
We talked about insurance and stuff a little more, but
not in the way where you know, Fallan and I
talked about how you could access healthcare.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Again, not a super sexy episode. But really good information.
I mean, it's a crazy episode, but it's it's just
a lot about a really bummer but very real and
not super traditional true crime topic. But me explaining the
opioid epidemic, I kind of also explained that coincided with
the Affordable Care Act than how a bunch like unsavory

(09:04):
motherfuckers started rehabs and a lot of opioid people suffering
from addiction from opioids die down in Florida in what's
called the Florida Shuffle, which is what Bam got caught
in via Lima yevromage. It's all connected, all fucking connected.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's a spider web.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I think you're gonna be on my side when I
get to this question that Beth Caris asks later. Okay, yeah, okay, Beth,
all right. You know I have feelings about her. She sucks,
that's pretty much all. I don't like her. She's not
a good journalist. Also, I don't know who they're like.
I mean, it's very obvious who they're trying to make

(09:53):
like the main bad guy in the story, and it's
bj Corville that surprised witness. BJA investigates, but nobody looks
good including Beth, and I'm just like, you, don't just
try to make everybody in this story look bad. Nobody
looks good. So here we go Part two. You guys,
let's do it. I will give a quick little recap

(10:15):
of where we loved off. At the end of the
last episode, we were in Los Angeles, California, meeting photographer
Mark Leata, who has a studio on skid Row where
he takes portraits of people that you know would not
normally get a voice in society. Mark does say that

(10:35):
when he first would see these people on skid row,
he'd think, come on, get a fucking job. Love that
I've never had that thought in my fucking life, because
I don't know. I'm an adult who uh has compassion
for other humans.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
And understanding of situations.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Mark's probably driving down skid row at this point in
his fucking BMW or some shit, because this motherfucker was
the top photographer for like Apple and some shit. And
then he was like, that's not what I want my
legacy to be. I want it to be giving a
voice to these people that I think are super scummy,
and also ninety percent of the time they're either like

(11:13):
unmedicated and you know, going through some sort of mental
health thing or they're on substances, so like really don't
have the ability to actually consent to being interviewed on
my channel that was at five point five million subscribers
at the time of the making of the documentary is
now at six point two.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
He also has a Spanish version.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Shut up.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
When I looked at the subscribers last time, there was
software underbelly in Espanol, I didn't click on that one though,
so it may be more than that.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And if you guys are like, yeah, I watched it,
Channel Marks a cool guy. Listen, No, he's not. I
don't think he's all bad. I think some parts of
how he acts are just arrogance and niavete. And I've
never been in your situation or anywhere even close to
your shoes, but I'm gonna be the one to tell

(12:06):
your fucking story because I can't even have empathy for
what you've been through because I've always had fucking money
because I'm a rich, fucking motherfucking mark Ooh Okay, anyways,
point is Marquez is on his whole own episode coming up,
and we can't get into the weeds about Mark. Okay,
you guys, that's whatever we're here to binge r bust
and is a bust. I've already said it. I say

(12:27):
it again, y'all. Get in my version with the commentary
is way better than looking at Beth and Lima and Mark.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
You'll learn everything you need to know from these episodes
and listen.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Like I have said, I'm not like a bj Corville Stan.
I think she has gone like weirdly right wing, and
she says problematic things. She panders to her audience. I
feel like she's become a real drama commentary channel. It's
like whatever's hot, what it's fucking ditty or whatever. It's
like every day there's a new video. But she started

(13:00):
looking into Amanda rab like I don't know, three years ago,
some shit a while ago. And I think she had
more integrity at that point, like a lot more. And
just because I like certain work of someone's does not
mean that I like condone all of their actions or
agree with all of their opinions and stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
And I feel like a lot of it's got to
be buzzwordy, click baby driving viewers, you know, just try
to get to her platform.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, And I mean, fuck, I'm a content creator like
I'm usually too late because I'm behind on things, but
you know, I try to if something is real, like hot,
I know that people are consuming a ton of content
about it. It's like the docuseries and the Ryan Murphy Show, which, like, god,
I have so many issues with him too, because like

(13:51):
American Horror Story, Oh my god, so fucking good masterpiece.
But then like everything else he makes I think is
pretty fucking exploititive and wow, I don't know. I'm feisty today,
very fast because I just watched this shit, so I'm
gonna get into it. So anyways, Mark's like, oh I'm Mark. Oh,
so Mark's being an idiot and now we're talking to Lima. So.

(14:17):
Lima says that she was drawn to Mark because in
Mar's videos, she saw a lot of people struggling with
addiction and she thought that she had the solution wild
because I feel like people have been looking for the
solution to addiction since, like I don't know, the beginning
of time, because that's when people started drinking.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, it hasn't worked yet, So dude, if.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Anybody knows how to just turn it off, let me know.
I will say. Though, you know, you guys on this
journey of sobriety, mental wellness and whatnot. And maybe this
is I don't know, maybe this is obvious. And you know,
I'm not saying it's one shoe fits all, but for me,
when it comes down to it, I don't feel like

(15:00):
it's so much like staying sober. That's the really difficult part,
which is I think why I don't like to go
focus on I'm Ashley and I'm an alcoholic because like, sure,
I have used substances. That's yeah. Also is ice cream
a fucking substance or coffee because I've used the shit
out of that too. Okay, listen, I can't even say this,

(15:21):
this is shameful. But they had like the six packs
of Cozy Shack chocolate pudding for sale at the grocery
store buy one, go one free Bogo. I may or
may not have eaten eleven.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
When you said this is shameful, I had no idea
where you were going to. The chocolate pudding was not
what I expect.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I have no self control, Like I'm just like I
want stuff that's good.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I struggle with self control, but not not necessarily substance wise.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, I'm saying like anything, you know, if it like
is awesome in some way, if it like produces the
feel good brain drugs ton and don't mean you know that.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Stuff, get that little dope me brains.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I give it, give it all.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's like when I walk into a bookstore, it's like,
dobe me. God, I'm the nerdiest person in the entire
what it's fine.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I wish that a bookstore did that for me. I
do love a bookstore or a library. I love the smell.
It's like a quiet that doesn't make me feel uncomfortable inside.
It's like a soothing one.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
But my nervous system is like, we want chaos, And
I'm like, nope, we know, we don't. I know you
think we do, but we don't. Well, you know a
lot of people when they've had intense lives, whether those
experiences are via your own actions or what other people

(16:50):
do to you, When your life is fucking chaotic, your
nervous system does get used to a level of I
don't know, like a high level of adrenaline or something.
And so what I'm getting at is like, it doesn't
surprise me that BAM's behavior is so off the rails.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
It's just what he's used to.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, and I mean he's he's been doing fucking super
wild shit like his whole life. So, I mean, I
just think about the experience of, even if you're fucking sober,
being on jackass. I've heard the guys describe like the
sense of anxiety on set because you're just like constantly
in fear that something painful and or humiliating is about

(17:31):
to happen to you.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
You know, when you watch the credits, they do it
even when the cameras aren't rolling for the movie or
for the show. They just message each other.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Sure they all choose that, but still, fuck so I
could see how you would get kind of like addicted
to this high level of adrenaline. Absolutely so, Like I said,
Lima says she's drawn to Mark because she has the
solution for addiction. She does wild. So Mark, you know,
he's Keith thought of like at least a dozen people.

(18:02):
He thought it had a really good chance of getting clean,
and Lima, bless her heart, asks Mark who's the hardest,
and he goes, well, I gotta say that's by far. Amanda.
What a wild, untamable, crackhead piece of shit. Holy fuck
you wanna you want a tough case, you dick bag,

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and Lima says, that's who I want to work with again.
Bless her heart. She wants a challenge. So Mark says,
she was literally trying to kill herself on a daily basis,
and that's a direct quote. Listen, Amanda, I will not lie,
was living fucking rough. It was scary watching her videos

(18:43):
and watching the way that she was physically and mentally
declining in every video.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
It was heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
It was heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
It was hard.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I sometimes struggle with the fact that, like, ah, she
obviously needed help. And sometimes people don't want help and
then they get help and it's like ends up being
a good thing for them. But the way that it
was all gone about, yeah, and the people involved, I
can't justify it, all right, that was Amanda's fucking prerogative, dude.

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She kept saying, like, this is what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
M she didn't want help.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
You don't like it? That sucks, dude. Also very telling,
she says in an interview that she dropped out of
college because she was just smoking weed and not getting
anything done. And now she's doing sex work and she
knows that her dad is proud of her for doing
something with her life, and I was like, dog, you
don't just like have that thought. It's like your dad

(19:40):
is probably actively being like, yeah, bitch, go get that
money and pay for our fucking accommodation because they were
like living together apparently. But you know what, all right, listen,
Larry and Mark, all right. AnyWho, So, here's the thing
about people with mental health issue and or substance abuse issues.

(20:02):
They talk a lot, and people very easily excuse the
rambling as just, you know, nonsense because it often sounds crazy.
But you know, and we'll get into this in the
episodes about Amanda, because that first episode was just a
really kind of an over review. If you really listen
to what she's saying, like, it's not that fucking crazy

(20:24):
at all. I mean, some of it is definitely like yeah, well, that's.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
The way those those BJA videos where she puts it
together and the ways that she edits them. I think
it helps to bring I don't know if context is
the right word, but it helps to bring a little
more clarity maybe to what Amanda is thinking and saying.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, and I've gone and I've looked at timelines to
like make sure that when Amanda's saying I don't want
no girl close to my age video gaming me, and
everybody's like, ah, oh, Amanda, you're so crazy. It's like
Issy or she already fucking meet Lima. You fucking yeah.
It comes off like, Okay, she obviously she needs help.

(21:05):
What is she really talking about? But then when you
know what she's talking about, it makes perfect sense. Like
Kristen said, the way that BJ's videos are edited together obviously,
like you know, you can edit anything to try to
make it look like one way and try to prove
a point. But Kristen and I have both done a

(21:27):
lot of research on her own to make sure that
BJ wasn't just taking certain edits and making Lima look bad.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Or mark or whatever, like how whatever she wanted.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Fucking discerning humans who have done a lot of research,
and they're all sas as fuck. Even like I said,
even BJ, I really don't even watch her channel much anymore.
I mean, I'll admit, you know, there's all shit that
I think we listen to or watch that's like a
little bit guilty pleasure. Listen. Okay, okay, if you guys
listened to my episode that I did with Nick Thompson

(21:59):
from Love is blind. You absolutely know that the contestants
were getting trafficked. Okay, how many of you still went
and watched the next right? Okay, so don't fucking come
at me for occasionally watching Seeking Sister Wives or a
BJA Investigates video. I watch The Challenge, So what's that

(22:22):
is that? Like squid Games.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's on MTV. It used to be the Real World
road Rules Challenge and now it's just called The Challenge
and they just finished the fortieth season. Holy shit, Yeah,
All Stars five just started last week.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Hold on, they're on the fortieth season, but only five
seasons of All Stars.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
They just recently started doing All Stars and then they
put it on like Paramount Plus.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Or like, we know how problematic the Bachelor is? Do
you watch such it? I haven't watched it a long time,
but I miss it and I want to.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I have, but not for ages.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
You know what the hottest garbage is and it's obviously
because they're heinously manipulating the contestants. It's very sad, but
can you remember, no, it's a Bachelor in Paradise and
all the just get sent to like Mexico and then
they all like fuck each other and everybody cries and

(23:16):
you laugh at their pain and it's terrible. But I
just thought of this show. It's called The Other Two
on HBO. It's really fucked up because it's like about
how fucked up the entertainment industry is. And then I
found out that a bunch of abusive shit was going on,
like in the writer's room and stuff, and I was like,
goddamn it. But there's this one scene where this girl's
going on a date with this guy from the Bachelor,

(23:36):
and he's like, yeah, you know, like the nation's pretty
much my family now. Like the other day, I was
hanging out with Caitlin for Brock season and stuff, and
I was just like, that is probably so how all
the fucking ex Bachelor contestants are.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yes, I watched Bachelor in Paradise before I'd ever seen
a season of The Bachelor. My best friend was like,
you need some trash TV in your life, and I
was like, okay, and then I couldn't stop my So
I get I get the guilty.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Pleasure back to another totally unethically produced thing. This shit.
So they show him a clip of Amanda highly intoxicated,
should not be on camera, cannot consent. Okay, imagine Amanda
didn't fucking die under Lima's care Let's take that route
for a second. Amanda gets sober, she has kids, she

(24:23):
gets a career. There are fucking what on Mark's channel,
probably at least eight, nine ten videos about Amanda, most
of them where she is highly intoxicated, millions tens of
millions of views. What everybody like, maybe their act is
a little cleaned up, wants that on the internet forever?

(24:44):
Are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Okay, anyhow, Wow, I'm so angry you guys.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'm so you're fired tonight.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Ooh all right, So we see Amanda in this clip,
like she's very high, and she's like, you know, everybody
gets murdered, some people die of old age. It's doesn't matter,
and it just very out of context. But it's like, yeah,
when you when you watch all her videos, you learn
her story and you listen to things with like maybe
a little bit of a fucking open mind and not

(25:13):
just like, oh this fucking crazy, schizophrenic crack addict. You know,
you might hear some shit. So now we see a
sast fight under belly video of Lima and Larry rab
Amanda's dad. His face has blurred out. Why that's weird?
Why didn't he agree to having his face appear in
the documentary?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
He's on everything else.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I don't know. Also, I just got him as a
friend's suggestion on Facebook the other day. I hope that
you clicked at a classic.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Maybe I should. I don't know. There's no point that
if I could like talk to another rab family member
who could give me maybe like some insight, that would
be amazing. But I did actually message a couple like cousins,
but nice in very respectful way. I did not GNNA response.
But they say that Amanda is currently in jail for

(26:04):
assaulting Larry with a pipe, which if her and Larry
are so fucking tight, why is she assaulting him with
a pipe. They're like besties, and he's super proud of
her for being a sex worker. But that's not ever
what Mark or anybody calls it, you know, Yeah, And
then like it's really weird because Larry and Mark will

(26:27):
get together and like hunt Amanda down and give her
money to buy crack so that she doesn't have to
do sex work. But then, like in other videos, Mark's like, well, listen,
this video is gonna be on the internet forever. So
if you don't want your grandma knowing that you suck
dick for money, maybe don't do this interview because you
could just go suck dick for money and get the
money that way instead. So it's like, I don't know,

(26:50):
Mark pick a Lane. You know, it's like, are you
gonna feed their crack habit or not? Is it exploitative
to put their video online for their grandma to see?
Will that have negative consequences?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
You don't know, you obviously fucking just stop me. Sorry?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Did you take your medication today? I did?

Speaker 4 (27:11):
I took ad all and I'm on my third cup
of coffee that might be it, but second and a
half actually, because I'm not even finishing this takes big drink.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
All right, We're gonna cut back a little with my input.
I'm telling you the documentary. It's just so hard not
to point out like how fucking skewed everything is being painted.
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, it's hard when you've researched the story and you
know the story and then they're telling the story and
it's not the story exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
So they say that Amanda has been locked up for
a few weeks and has a court date coming up
and they have to petition to get her into a conservatorship.
And Lima has an easy ABC one two three on
her or a website which is now shut down on
how to get a loved one into a conservorship super easy.

(28:01):
If you want to just take control over somebody's life,
take it from Lima. He's pasy and Lima shows up
and according to Rab Larry Rab, her appearance in court
made all the difference. And Beth says, this is what's
called alternative sentencing where instead of jail time, people get

(28:22):
put into some sort of rehabilitation program. And now Lima
is Amanda's guardian. Why I don't know, Well, because because
she has this life saving software and she wants the hardest,
you know, the hardest case. How would you feel, Kristin
if I was like out of the whole TSFU team,
like the fucking hardest case to work with? Who's Kristen? Jesus,

(28:43):
She's out of control? What a fucking nightmare? You want
a challenge of a person you feel good?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
That would be so awful. I don't know if in
her mind at that point, if she really like you
know it was kind of grasping what that meant. But
that would suck to be like, you're the toughest and
I'm going to prove that my stuff works on you,
and then I can save everyone else.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I feel like in the end, it's probably trying to
paint Lima in the best light and Mark, but they
definitely do a good job at points not doing that.
But it's like also doesn't like really bring any discredibility
to BJ, So it's kind of like you're just making
people look bad for I don't know, it's a weird
way they take it. So Lima becomes Amanda's guardian and

(29:28):
she puts Amanda in a treatment program that uses her
Aura VR software. Now, Mark says he tries to be optimistic,
but you know, he half expects this is totally gonna flop,
but it quote worked beautifully. Didn't know if Amanda being
dead right now is a beautiful outcome in which Lima's

(29:51):
approach worked.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
That doesn't track.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, we see another video of Amanda, you know, three
months into treatment she's with Lima. She's like, yeah, I
like Lima, Like it's so cool. It feels like she's
being forced to say shit. They show a clip of
Amanda being put into a VR simulation of skid Row.

(30:16):
I've been to rehab several times, my friends. It's a
good time check it out. No really, though, if you're
struggling with substance abuse, it can help. But you know,
there are unsavory characters and uh organizations in the rehab business, obviously.
But let me tell ya, I've never been somewhere where

(30:37):
there were pictures on the wall framed of military men
saluting American flag fighter jets, very American military type vibes.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
That feels recruitment office type, like when when you go
to the Army recruitment office.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
And apparently most of who this va our technology has
been tested on. You know, Lima's not the only one
in the game. It has been on vets with PTSD
because we love to use Vats's guinea pigs in this country.
I'm a fan. I think it's super ethical. I love it.

(31:20):
Weirdly though, in the documentary, all of these pictures in
the background are blurred. Is that weird?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Isn't that weird?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Why? I love that? I fucking know all of this
because I'm just like, what are you fox hiding? Why
are all those blurred? Also, they show Amanda going into
the VR and she's like, oh, like she shocked, But
they don't show what Lima showed on her Instagram, which
was Amanda being completely fucking overwhelmed, going oh shit, and

(31:50):
a bunch of people in the room laughing at her. Yeah,
so there's more than one person in the room for sure,
at least two besides Lima and Lima's going Amanda. And
also what they don't show on the skid Row simulation
is that, you know, she did a little shout out
to Bam Margera and his I don't know if it

(32:13):
was his ex. I don't know. I think it's his
now ex. But there was a billboard of Bam and
his partner in the skid row simulation because Bam was
apparently an investor in Aura. Funny because there's so many
moving parts to all of this that we have yet
to put together a super comprehensive timeline as to when

(32:36):
Bam comes into the picture and whatnot. But apparently Lima
became BAM's conservator after Amanda for something. Kind of was
under the impression it was the other way around.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I was too. I definitely thought Bam was first.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Hold then let me do a quick Google gig. When
did Lima fucking horror face.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
That's extremely specific. I don't know that Google.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Gruffish Maura to Colli to Golly become Bam Marjerra's guardian.
Lima said she became BAM's guardian in June twenty twenty one. Okay,
why do you get to play this role in people's
lives because software and she became Amanda's guardian in Yeah,

(33:27):
at the end of twenty twenty. So BAM's parents saw
that situation, I guess, and we're like, she seems like
she knows what the fuck she's doing. Let's put our
family members well being in her hands.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Must do it. That sounds exactly where you want to
put your kid.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
My eyes just became vacant because it's like blank, I
don't yeah, yeah, and listen, listen. I know some of
y'all are like, this sounds like she's been putting a
lot of webs together. Look if you don't think of
it like that, all these crazies and you look at
each string of the fucking web, y'all like LEMI is

(34:03):
friends with this dude buzz something who was justin Bieber's life. Coach,
but like doesn't seem to have any We're done, joels
to be so and then this buzz dude also worked
with Amanda.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I don't know, I don't know. Listen, there's not a lot,
you know whatever. There's definitely some shit that's weird that
I don't know what the fuck it's about. But it's
just like, bitch, who are you?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
We are Charlie day in Always Sunny with the web
on the Oh my.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
God, I've literally just legitimately felt like that so many times. Yes,
that is who we just wanted telling this episode. I'm
like ripping my hair.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Out making all the connections, finding all the things because
we know.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
We know the truth. We're telling you guys too. After
the the jet pictures are blurred, you know, they're laughing
at her, and then I just write in all caps,
are you fucking kidding? My roommates for sure sometimes know
when I'm researching something I'm passionate about, because I'll just
be in here like bitch, fuck off, like yelling at

(35:12):
my computer.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Also, okay, Lima and Amanda they're on Soft Wet Underbelly
again in April twenty twenty one, so just a couple
months before she comes BAM's guardian, and Lima says, Amanda's
ben sober for two hundred and fifty five days, and Amanda,
who's not Okay, let me just fucking get this straight,
all right, you guys, Amanda's not fucking stupid at all.

(35:37):
She's not crazy when she's like, you know, perhaps in
a schizophrenic episode or experiencing symptoms of that, or is
maybe in a drug induced skate of schizophrenia or very
high on crack. You know, maybe she wasn't always saying
the most coherent things if you watched the first interview
with Amanda, And that's why it's sad too, because there

(35:57):
is very much so a decline. And oh my god,
if you read the comments, people who have gone to
school with her, who have been her friend, her fucking teachers, y'all.
You got to read the comments. You're missing so much
if you're not in the comment section. They're like, oh,
she was so fucking smart and such a leader. And
you see her first interview and like, she's a fucking

(36:17):
intelligent person. She's not stupid, Okay, And Lima says, she's
been sober for two hundred and fifty five days and
Amanda goes, wow, And I was just like, wait, why
is Amanda not like in the fucking know about where
she's at progress? Whise? I mean, she don't count my
sober days? But I don't know, dude. It just gave

(36:37):
me like, why is it being shown that fucking Lima's
an expert on Amanda's recovery and if she doesn't know?
And then she goes and she's been in treatment for
one hundred and eighty nine days. So I'm doing some math,
which I'm not great at, but still I was able
to put this together. That's sixty six days that she
was sober, not in treatment. So they said she had

(37:00):
been in jail, didn't they say for a few weeks?
That would suggest to me a few months, because she
was never on the streets not sober. Where the fuck
was she?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Where was she sober for sixty six days before treatment?
Was she in jail for two months? What did Larry
Rab say? Let's rewind the tape. Larry Rab said that
she'd been locked up for a few weeks and had
a court date coming up, but not fucking five weeks
from that? Right?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
The math isn't mathing.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Okay, listen, listen. This is wild speculation, let me tell you.
But isn't it weird that before Amanda met Lima, she
said she didn't want no girl around her age video
gaming her thoughts, and then this girl right around her
age came and started video gaming her thoughts. Where was

(37:50):
she sober if not in jail? What she was just
sober on skid row? The math's not mathing. The web
is webbing. I'm sorry. Call me a conspiracy theorist. Actually
I'm not sorry, and you can do that, but you
know you're correct because the definition is somebody who doesn't
trust the government.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
We definitely don't trust Lima.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Call me crazy, but like mk ultra AnyWho. Yeah, So
that's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Just bring it back there.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
M hm. So a lot of stuff weirdly not adding
up to me. So Lima says, Amanda's not a miracle.
We can do this for anybody, We can save anyone.
That sounds like the fucking tag to a horror movie.
It is.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, it does sound like one of those horror movies
where they're locking people away and digging into their.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Minds, and which is what Lima wants. To do. Oh
my god, you guys just wait till like, ooh, the
Lima episode where I'm gonna talk about the interview that
she did where she was like, mm, homeless people and
people with mental health issues and people with substance abuse issues. Basically,
anybody whose society doesn't think normal or functioning should be

(39:02):
locked up. Even though I'm going to admit that while
I was Amanda Rabs guardian, I almost fucking jumped off
the Brooklyn Bridge. But I got there and I realized
that it was not tall enough. Well then, why ocuck
aren't you locked up, Lima because it sounds like you
were very mentally stable, but you are stable enough to
have power over Amanda's care. You know what, I've lots

(39:25):
of time spen like life is hard and sad and
I hate it and I don't want to live it anymore.
Not waking up would be cool. I have never fucking
gotten close to jumping off of a bridge. There's a
very big difference between suicidal ideation and a suicide attempt.
This bitch was gonna go jump off of a bridge. Listen,
that's really fucking sad. I can't imagine the headspace that

(39:46):
you're in to want to do that.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I can't either.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Weirdly, I think I'm better at math than Lima. And
that's I don't think I would ever say that about anybody,
but like A plus B equal c Lima. And if
people who are a danger to themselves also others, like
in Lima's mind, if you're hurting your family because you're
choosing to be on substances and live on the streets,

(40:11):
you're not allowed to do that, Kristen. Legally, you're not
allowed to hurt other people. I don't know what law
we're citing here, Yeah, but you're not allowed to do that.
So they could just like lock you up. But according
to Lima's standards, her own standards, she should be in
a mental institution right now, not trying to like run rehabs.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
And save other people.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
You know, what are they say in the Bible, like
you know your own cup and it phillith and whatnot?
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think you haven't got there yet.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
It runneth over, I don't know, you know, Just like listen, bitch,
your cup's empty. Okay. I wonder how many times I've
just said okay during this just a stop, like as
a stop phrase for myself. So back to Beth and
her bullshit reported skills, she says that, based on Lima's
knowledge of the treatment industry and experience with guardianships.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Ooh, she's experienced.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I don't know where all this experience is. I don't
know where she got all this knowledge just that one time. Actually,
I am gonna fucking I'm gonna play that clip. I
have to. I have to. Yeah, it's too telling because
she's so fucking knowledgeable about this shit, you guys. Oh,

(41:29):
by the way, like when we get to her education history,
super fun. Her degree I think is some like political
science or some shit that has literally nothing to do
with any of this. Okay, no, nothing, But I just
love how the documentary doesn't mention any one thing that
I'm mentioning to you guys based on her just like
knowledge and success, experience and awesomeness. BAM's family reached out

(41:53):
and asked her to oversee his treatment.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Because, of course, yeah, but not.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
She seems like the right person. And you know, now,
Lima bless her heart again. I'm blessing hearts today and
it's all for her.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
You're Southern.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I like it. So nobody wanted to take Bam on.
You know, nobody wants to be the bad guy who
says no to Bam Margera, but Lima doesn't mind playing
that role, okay, because she's here to take on the
toughest cases of people. I'm a tough nut, Lima, you
want to try to crack me.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Bitch, that's a good experiment.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
So she's like, yeah, And what's weird is, according to
the documentary, Lima wasn't getting paid for any of this,
not for being Amanda's guardian. Okay, fine, fair enough, let's
say that's true. But she wasn't getting paid to be
BAM's guardian. But Bam has like millions of dollars and

(42:49):
his family super rich, but they couldn't afford to pay Lima.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
That doesn't make it.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
She was just doing this out of the good of
her heart, or you know, in Amanda's case, to try
to show that her technology how great it is. Then
it backfired and somebody died in her care, and then
she was like, Amanda is a success story. C And
then she kept trying to sell her goods and services
and products, and then people like BAM's family bought it. Oh. Also,

(43:17):
according to Stevo. Lima paid for a lot of BAM's
treatment out of her own pocket, which is funny because
she said she had to take out loans to pay
for Amanda's treatment. But also it's super weird because if
she's working with the American Addiction Centers, which she is,
because that's the facility that Amanda went to. Also, surprise, surprise,
one of the facilities that Bam went to was ran

(43:39):
by American Addiction Centers. They are government connected. Lima has
access to government people or whatever what. They're not paying
for the rehab. I'm for as fuck y'all. Okay, Patreon
dot com, slash t yes if you. I've never paid
for my own rehab. Talk about that in this upcoming episode.

(44:02):
It's really profitable for a lot of people, for addicts
to stay addicted. That's a whole other story. But point
is Lima's just doing all of this out of the
good of her own heart and for publicity, which I
don't know about her and Mark and Larry all talk
about what a success it was because Amanda died.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, that's not a success.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
I never thought. Okay, I hope when I go to
treatment the end result is that I'm clean and sober,
and then I don't live that life and I just
fucking die instead. I don't know, that's just me, Call
me crazy, you.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Know, that's just everyone's goal.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
We see Bam and Lima and their meeting and they're hugging,
and she says in an interview that she got a
one year temporary guardianship over Bam. She's talking to Bam,
super cute and condescendingly, telling him about how a guardian's
like a parent and this is like a Moman's Sun relationship.

(44:58):
She's younger than Bam, for sure.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I feel like she's significantly younger.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, BAM's in his forties. She's in her thirties and
she's talking to him like he's a triumph. Yeah. He
has since come out and made a lot of accusations
about her. But this is just because that fucking crazy
bitch Beejay planted a bunch of nonsense in his head.
You know, as you're not because Lima Shady is fun. No,

(45:24):
none of that. Now we go back to what's his name,
Stephen Clown Gregory or whatever, Steve O, Stephen Glover. He
used to be a clown. By the way, he's a
circus clown. Oh my god, I had no idea like
a Rodeo clown. He went to school for it, Like
straight up, he's just clown and dog.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
You know, I'm not surprised. I don't know like that.
For whatever reason, You're like Steveh was a clown, I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I see that he was introduced to Lima through BAM's
mom April and was in full support of this guardianship.
Bam obviously couldn't stay sober and couldn't stay out of trouble.
I was listening to this other interview that STEVEO did though,
where he's, you know, apparently a staunch believer that you
can't force sobriety on somebody, but was also in full

(46:06):
support of this random ass woman taking over his life
because he obviously kind of keep a shit together, and
Steve O can. He's like seventeen years sober.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I bet he didn't use VR.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
And it's so interesting because all these people with super
big followings, this guy Adam grand Mason or Adam twenty
two or something, I don't know he has. I think
he's like him and his wife are only fan stars.
But then they also have a podcast called plug Talk
or something. But then he also has a YouTube podcast

(46:39):
called No Jumper. I don't know, I don't get it,
but he's big. Oh, and then there's also this YouTuber
who may or may not have dissociative identity disorder, very
big following as well. So Lima's been on Soft White Underbelly,
No Jumper Dissociated, and Steve O's So it's really weird.

(47:02):
All these people with really really big followings love Lima,
super happy to give her a platform. All think BJ's crazy,
and nobody wants to interview her. I don't know, even
if she is a fucking crackhead conspiracy theorist, why don't
they want to hear her side?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Right?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
You know? I don't know. Aren't you supposed to hear
both sides of the story? Make up your own mind.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Or usually when you do a documentary, you at least
reach out to the other party.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
It's really funny though, because they just purposely make BJ
look super bad throughout this. We had a patron comment
don't trust BJ, and like I said, I don't take
her word as gospel, and we do a lot of
extra research, but the documentary goes out of its way
to make her look just like a stupid blonde YouTube
creator who doesn't know what she's talking about and is

(47:54):
just out to like destroy Lima for no reason at all. Right,
Steve O says that it was never a conservatorship, it
was just a guardianship. But according to something on Google,
a legal guardian can make a wide range of personal
and medical decisions for the person in their care, while
a conservatorship generally grants much more limited decision making powers.

(48:21):
A conservator usually only has the authority to pay bills,
make investments, and handle other financial matters. So they're saying
it was a guardianship so that she didn't have any
control over his money. That's one of Stevo's main things.
He just had control over his whole life, not his money. God,

(48:42):
I guess because people are thinking Lima's maybe money motivated
or something, But I mean, I don't think. I think
she's I don't know what her fucking motivation is.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah, I don't, I don't power.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Maybe we see news clips that are showing, oh, there's
accusations of assault and death threats to BAM's parents and
rehab staff. Blah blahah blah. Lima, she she gets Bam
under her belt. She puts him in a quote traditional

(49:13):
treatment facility according to Beth, that used her ARA technology.
Get the fuck out of here, hold on. I don't
know a lot of traditional treatment centers that are implementing
are A yet. But it's just me. I'm not an.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Expert, especially because they don't have a website now.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
And it's just interesting that Bam keeps getting arrested and
Baker acted and Marchmen acted where they're like, oh, he's
crazy or oh he's out of control, and people use
these a lot in Florida to take away people's autonomy
and writes I don't know. I wasn't there. I haven't
watched all the fucking videos. I just find it kind
of interesting that Amanda and Bam and people are just

(49:52):
assaulting other people and that's why they're getting locked up,
because they're just out of control, assaulting people with pipes
and stuff. You know, I just find it interest. I
don't know. Fuck, maybe he was sending death threats to
his parents. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Maybe I've said some crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Stuff in the heat of the moment too, you know,
that's just sign he does say crazy shit, But it
also just sounds like he's just like this like really sad,
hurt little boy underneath, and it's kind of sad. So
Beth says, you know that this didn't look good for
Lima or her brand. Obviously, Apparently Bam has a court
hearing that he doesn't show up for, and so Lima

(50:28):
and April BAM's mom are at Castle Bam is what
he calls it, in Westchester, Pennsylvania, and his brother is
apparently leasing the property right now, and Bam is there
spray painting on the gate. He's like, my brother fucked me,
fuck him and blood babie blah. More will be revealed,

(50:48):
but I feel like maybe his brother is the one
who maybe introduced Lima. But regardless, he's like, this is
my house and I can't go to it. And April,
you know, she's just like so scared. I mean, I
don't know. I don't want to like fully fucking discredit
the family because it is scary when you have somebody

(51:09):
in addiction. Their behavior is belligerent, they're saying scary things
and bloody blah. But it's also just like, well, maybe
keep that private with the family then, but they're always
bringing it super fucking public purposely bringing it to the
media and stuff. Lima's just so heartbroken for their family,
and she says that they were starting to get the

(51:31):
Bam that they knew back. But it's weird because I
thought Bam had always been a nightmare according to them,
especially because of his record of always being a nightmare.
That's why it was necessary for his rights to be stripped.
So I don't know. The camera crew asks him about
the guardianship and he says he's the Britney Spears of jackass.
He says, Lima is sweet and has helped me, but

(51:52):
she's called the cops every time and said, make Bam
think we're on his side. If she's on my side,
why not say, hell, Bam, we're on his side.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
He's got a point.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Oh that's the words of a crazy person just rambling though, right,
Like that's so fucking valid.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, he know he's got a point there, right, but
it just sounds crazy because he's just crazy, you know,
he's Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Lima said she took on the role of a human
shield to take all of the shit and she's fine
with being the bad guy. And Bam says he wants
the world to know what he's been through. Because he's
been to hell and back because he was forcibly in
rehab for over a year.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Back to Beth and her expertise, she says that while
BAM's public down spiral is escalating, we've got some little
fucking blonde idiot over here in Princeton, New Jersey investigating.
So they show bj and they show her primping her makeup.
This fucking silly little French song is playing, and she's

(52:58):
like straightening her palm poms. She does wear little pom
poms on her head, and it's silly, But why not
fucking do your thing.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Like it's a statement. It's her thing.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, it's a signature, a trademark type, right. They ask
her what inspired her to become a lawyer. She says
that Legally Blonde was her big inspiration Elwood's, and that
she swore into the bar with a VHS of Legally Blonde,
and they just make her look so fucking dumb. She's like,
I grew up on a fucking trailer and that shit
was inspirational to me. People could look at you in

(53:28):
a certain way, but the documentaries just what an idiot.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I bet She's not alone in that that I bet
a lot of people were inspired by legally Blonde. Yeah,
like there's nothing wrong with them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
BJ has two channels and does the investigative work and storytelling.
Was a leader in the free Britney movie movement, and
someone told her that BAM was also in a conservatorship,
so she started digging into this. First she just kind
of sees Lima talking and feels like, now this is weird.

(54:01):
She doesn't seem like she has the credentials really to
be doing what she's doing. I just want to play
this clip really quick because I think that it's a
very good idea of why somebody might think that Lima
doesn't sound like she has the credentials to be doing this. Also,
her pitch is super duper telling about what her priorities

(54:26):
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and treatment centers make more money, and insurance companies and
insurance companies and insurance companies. Insurance companies save money, and
insurance companies save billions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
So that's from one of Bjay's videos. Sure, is that
editing to make her look really stupid? Yeah? Is that
her fucking pitch that she uses every time? Yeah? Yeah,
and she still can't even fucking get through it without
stumbling over her goddamn word. It's always at the end
where she goes and patients make cover. It's always first though,

(55:44):
that the primary objectives are to save the insurance company
and to make the rehabs money. I think it's all
about making money for the companies that are making a
lot of money.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Already, and not the person.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
But she's all about patient centered care or whatever. Lima
says that she wanted to get into mental health to
help her sisters. She said, I grew up in Canada.
It was me and my mom and my dad and
my sister's twins, Dia and Dahlia. She said a family

(56:20):
member was very abusive to her and her sisters sexually
and physically, and also beat their mom. She never says
that it was their dad, but I feel like process
of elimination. She said that she remembers everything and the
twins remember nothing. She was always the protector and would
you know, plot to kill this person. She said that

(56:42):
Godfather and Scarface were her favorite movies growing up because
she wanted to be that powerful and respected. I mean,
I can understand feeling powerless against your abuser and being like, yeah,
I want to fucking kill you, but craving power and
respect being who she is now. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I didn't watch The Godfather till three years ago, and
it's because my husband made me. That wouldn't have been my.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I've never even watched them.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I mean it's good.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I mean I know stuff about it.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
For it to be your favorite movie, like as a
kid growing up.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
And Scarface, Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I've never seen Scarface, but I have heard that Scarface.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Is say hello to my little friend.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah it's my r but.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Not bad yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
It's yeah, not for children. Not for kids.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
So she says that as adults, she's become very independent
and self sufficient, but her sisters are completely debilitated by
what happened. They show YouTube clips from their channel. It
was really successful. She said she was their biggest fan.
One night they went to a party in LA and
took Mollie and they never felt the same again. Apparently,

(57:50):
they reported they felt like they walked into hell and
heard the voice of God. It changed everything, and doctors
didn't know how to treat them, so they were diagnosed
as schizophrenic given medications that were not even the right
ones that they got addicted to. So now they've been
in and out of treatment for several years. Turns out

(58:11):
this is not of the documentary, but they both have
dissociative identities order. I feel like she talks about schizphren
a lot. I don't know that exposure virtual reality therapy
is the best for somebody who goes through bouts of
not being able to know anyways what is reality or not.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
She might know that if she wasn't a political science major.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
She said, rather than raise money for treatment for my sisters,
I thought it would be a more neutral path to
help a stranger that I didn't know what what Okay,
Mark said Amanda was the worst example of a drug addict. No,
she was a crack addict on skid row before Lima.
It was a miracle that Amanda even survived. Which funny

(58:58):
because after Lima, Amanda didn't survive. They keep leaving that
part out. It's super weird. Yeah. On May fifteen, twenty
twenty one, Lima and Larry are on Soft White Underbelly
and they say that Amanda died on Sunday, May ninth. Sadly,
the treatment center staff walked in and thought that Amanda
was peacefully sleeping until they realized that she'd passed away.
Let me tell you, motherfuckers, I've been rehab. You know.

(59:20):
You live there lockdown type facility or they'll ego to
groups during the day. Then you live in sober living.
They're checking on you at night to make sure you're
a in your bed and knock out, fucking or doing drugs,
and b that you're breathing. Okay, it's weird that so much.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Time passed nobody checked on her. WHOA, wait, what surprise?

Speaker 1 (59:39):
I'm not saying they intentionally killed Amanda or anything. I'm
just saying it doesn't sound like that fucking center was
being ran super well. As we know, fucking rehabs can
be super sketchy, and especially ones like this. So Bja
says that two to three months into law school, her
dad odied and died and she felt ashamed of this
because her dad deed on meth and that's known as

(01:00:02):
a portable drug. She says that this is the worst
thing that happened to her, but she feels more compassion
for people that society writes off. She said, bam Margera
isn't just a drug addict. Amanda wasn't just a quote
crack addicted prostitute. Amanda died in Lima's care using her treatment.
Beth says that there's no indication that the goggles were
involved in her death, but there was an adverse event

(01:00:25):
report filed saying that the FDA had not evaluated this
device and whoever filed this report, and I feel like
if they knew that it was BJ, they would definitely
say that. So I don't know who filed it said
that they're afraid LIMA will use this technology on other
vulnerable people against their will oh, just keep all this
in mind. Beth also then says that Lima could have

(01:00:47):
been coming from a good place, but so was Elizabeth Holmes,
the Stanford dropout who wanted to develop technology that could
test a range of diseases with a few drops of blood.
She wanted to make that technology, but she ever did.
She couldn't make it work, but she did still swindle
investors had millions of dollars. She's currently serving eleven years
in prison. Beth says that Lima's kind of like Elizabeth Holmes,

(01:01:11):
but she doesn't fucking get why BJ won't just let
this go. She's like, why are you so obsessed with her?
Actually laughing because I don't know, maybe because of everything
that you just fucking said.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
She feels very delusional.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Bef bee ba, I'm actually kind of jumping the gun
a little bit because now we're back to BJ. BJ
says the issue isn't with the software, it's with the
corruption and the lies. Because seven months after Amanda died,
Lima goes on software underbelly and says that she's going
to read the autopsy result word for word. She said
that the cause of death was marked as a seizure. Disorder,

(01:01:53):
but she never had seizures prior to being homeless, and
it was probably post traumatic ups, but they couldn't mark
that because of a lack of evidence, so they said
that it was the seizure disorder right. Weirdly, though, the
actual document mentions nothing of seizures and says that Amanda
died of cardiac arrhythmia, with complicating factors being obesity, hypertension,

(01:02:16):
and schizophrenia. So why lie about how Amanda died? And
then why three years later? Still don't explain why you lied?
Beth says she doesn't know what Limo was reading. Like
I mentioned above, she says, what is driving Bejay's hence
interest in this story? I don't know, Beth. That's a
good question, because I don't have questions. It sounds like

(01:02:39):
you don't have the question. I don't know why she'd
be so interested.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
You're right, makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
We're going to get into the last part of the
docu series with so much of my you know, it's funny.
Could get to watch the doctor episode an hour, but
you're gonna hear it all at four to five hours, Okay,
Because I have things to say, I'm not going to
go any further because now guess who the fuck girl
I flip. Guess guess who. Guess who we're meeting. Guess
Oh my god, guess who we are meeting?

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Who are we meeting?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Linda Omar?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Who's Linda Omar?

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
That is Lima to Callie to Golly Moura, Yevra, Mitch's mother. Oh,
Linda Omar would not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Have gathered that from her name. I'm interested Omar Moura.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Then there's Dia and Dahlia, but like, DIA's name also
is Dema. And then they spell their name to CALLI,
which is not I don't know whose name that is,
but they spelled a bunch of ways. But this woman,
Jamie Gilmour, who is on video on a call with Lima,
while Lima's like, oh my god, Hi Jamie, your voicemail

(01:03:47):
is so sweet or whatever. She's introduced as one of
BJ's biggest supporters and one of the that surprise army,
which BJ has said multiple times that she was never
a part of this discord server, and even people that
were actually a part of the discord Server have never
said that BJ was all up in there, so like
she didn't encourage people to create a mob. But Beth

(01:04:09):
says that they're being doxed and harassed and it's out
of control. All because Lima lied about Amanda's autopsy. Oh
my god, seriously, who cares get a life, move on
with your day. She said there was gabapentin in Amanda's system,
which is a seizure medication. So maybe did Amanda have
a seizure that gave her a heart attack?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
It's weird though, because Lima said in the autopsy, you
know video, that all Amanda had in her system was
til and all, but there was gaba penton in her system. Also,
I've never even been close to having a seizure, and
I've been on gabapent lots of times because they've given
that shit to fucking everybody when they get into rehiit
it's like an anti anxiety and a sleep and it
works for a bunch of shit. Steve O says that

(01:04:58):
bj seems super dangerous. She's planting ideas into BAM's head.
Lima says that BJA has made over three hundred videos
about her. By the way, I did some math, Bja's
made about eight hundred videos across her two channels. One
hundred and sixty something are about Britney Spears or Britney
Spears related. There are seemingly close to like one hundred

(01:05:20):
twenty videos about Lima and Mark and Amanda and the
whole fucking situation and Dia and Dahlia. My lord, that
probably is the craziest part of the whole fucking shit
to me. It's definitely not three hundred. She says that
she's concerned with changing how people see treatment, and Bjay
is just concerned about spreading quote, dumb girl rumors. Dumb

(01:05:44):
girl rumors.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
That's how you describe things as an adult.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Yeah, we see Linda Omar and one of the twins, Dia.
It's so funny. I don't know where Dahlia is. Nobody
knows where Dahlia is. No way, I think we see Dahlia.
Nobody knows where Dia is. Fuck, I don't know one
of been missing an action for years. They're basically saying
how they're on the run because crazed people from you know,

(01:06:09):
Bjay's fan base are trying to hurt them, which is
weird actually because BJ's entire fan base is like staunchly
against Lima and Brow, particularly Dia and Dahlia. It's like,
where are the twins? BJ just wants to spread dumb
girl rumors. But there was this like body cam footage
from Tulsa, Oklahoma, where Linda Omar had called the cop

(01:06:32):
and said that Dahlia I think it was Dahlia. Where's Dia?
We don't know had been abusing her. And then the
twin that is not missing goes on a whole rant
about how she's being sex traffic, about how she's being
video game, about how her mom or somebody has the
house set up like a production house and how freaky
it is, and how she's being continuously raped by other men.

(01:06:57):
There's only one sexual assault on the wreck in the
legal system, and that is apparently because it was one
of BJ's followers who went found the twin and raped them.
They said specifically it was one of BJ's followers that
I don't think that's not of the documentary. You guys,
I don't even know. Usually with a binge or bust,
I don't add act contact. And that's why they're taking

(01:07:19):
nine hours to tell. But it's just everything I tell you,
then I have to tell you the opposite of it, Okay.
So and then the other part of that is but
I kind of like it for that because it's, oh,
it's just like disproving so much of the narrative because yeah,
oh that's funny though, because I actually have receipts for
the fucking opposite. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Well, BJ makes a very very big point, and any
video of hers that I've ever watched that is, whether
it's she usually says it and then it like scrolls
down at the bottom of the screen multiple times, if
not like the whole time, where you know, do not
go after these like however she says it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Yeah, she says like, don't contact anybody on behalf of
or on behalf of herself or anybody else whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Yeah, she makes it a point to say, hey, do
not do this. And I feel like, if you're a
real fan of hers, hardcore supporter, you're gonna respect her wishes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
No, because a lot of people definitely have gone to
Lima's page and like sent her death threats like maybe inclusive.
I really I don't know who, not any just once,
but I might have been like, you're a terrible person
and I'm gonna get you. I don't know. I literally
don't know, but I probably did say something on her
point because obviously this kind of gets me caught and bothered,

(01:08:32):
not in a sexy way, which is why Kristen is
gonna end the episode in a hot and bothered way
that's not so angry but more just sexy and funny.
But just to sum up this little section and then
just one more, just one more episode on this documentary,
you guys, and nine more on the rest. But that's fine,

(01:08:52):
I'll just end off with Beth, says. Beja's obsession with
this story has obviously hurt Lima's brand, but that's it's
not enough. So now she's going after her family. Yeah,
Bjay's trying to expose the fact that the fucking twins
are missing and haven't. Yep, she's going after them, trying
to like expose the fact that trying to find them

(01:09:13):
being trafficked or dead or experimented on, you know, forcibly
locked somewhere agains they're well, I don't know AnyWho. That's
that's my hot and bothered for the day. Give us yours, Kristen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Okay, do you have a preference as to which of
the screenshots I sent you that you want me to
read first?

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
No, just you know, give it to me raw price. Alrighty,
this is from a real book, you guys, were written
by a real author read by real people.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Yes, it is from We're Not Just Zodiac Academy six,
the sixth book in that series. I believe it's called
Faded Throne. I read it on my kindle, so I
don't look at the cover. You know what I'm I'm
going to do everyone a favor and I'm going to
provide zero context to what I highlighted. Yeah, because then
you're gonna be like, what what? I have one hundred
pages left, so answers are. When we're done recording, I'm

(01:10:01):
gonna go finish this book so you may get more screenshots. Okay,
here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
When we're done recording today. If you've been reading that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Book, no, like when I am. When we're done, you're
gonna then I'll go finish it. Yeah, I'm not reading
it right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
You're gonna read one hundred pages tonight. That's crazy, I could. Yeah,
your cuckoo, Okay I am.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
But it's it's also very easily digested, like very it's
a very quick creed. Okay, as you will see. Okay,
I knew it was now do this without laughing, because
I laughed out loud when I read it. I knew
it was now or never to show if my new
did jazzle. Man, I never thought I'd enjoy decorating my
dick over playing Fortnite, but things had changed.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
So is that like a bud jazzle where you put
stones on your It.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Is a jazzle, but it's a did jazzle because this
is a That chapter is from a male male's point.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
He had fun did jazzling.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, he did jazzled. But when this character that we're reading,
we're reading his point of you, what is called a
pegasus shifter. This is romanticy, so it's fantasy. So there's
vampires and wear wolves and oh there's all kinds of
lots of different things. The idea is that each order,
they're called orders, they have their own way of doing things,
like vampires are loaners where wolves have a pack, you

(01:11:18):
know that kind of thing. Well, the pegasus they have
heard and they are glittery and shiny and sparkley when
they shift into their pegasus form, and so in their
male their fay, so in their fee form they like
to do jazzle or the jazzle. The women the jazzle
because they're glittering sparkley in there, and that's what they do.
And now you're stunned, and now you're studying.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
I didn't have anything to say on my mouth was
a gape, that's what she said. I was just saying.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
It was because you're impressed over the dijazzle. It's fine,
uh huh. Well see this guy here, he's a freshman.
It's a college. They're like at a college. And he
didn't use the he didn't use the right stick king
charm if you will. His did jazzle fell off in
front of everybody, and then he was some super embarrassed.

(01:12:06):
So now he's got to like make a stick better?

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Is that what the next page? Weren't you going to
read another page? And that's that's context.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
That's context. Yeah, that's context. That was what I highlighted
when I sent to you. This was the other one
that I highlighted and sent to you again, no context.
Her skirt was almost short enough to see her snake hole,
and she made a point of bending over in front
of any guy she took a liking to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I'm gonna start calling it a snake hole.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Oh my, I almost made it through that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
The snake hole lounge on Perks of Wreck.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Yes, yes, it is the snake hole, oh my god.
But see the funny thing about that is they're talking
about a Medusa shifter and you know Medusa has the
snake hare.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Oh yeah, okay, so snake.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Hole you know, is appropriate.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Yeah, if you will, I enjoy these tidbits. Don't worry else,
send you lots more excellent. Well, Kristen, that was real
and only because I inserted factual information to the story
as fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
And that was real fucked up because I read you
bits of smut from romanticy books. Yeah, and the story
though it is now the actual story is. It's real
fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Bye guys, Bye bye bye. Oh my's fucked up job
so fucked up, can't up, It's just up.

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