March 7, 2025 • 47 mins
Ash and Kristen wrap up "The Curious Case of... Bam Margera", wtith the most intense episode yet!
Ash talks about Dahlia's allegations that she was sex trafficked by her mother and law enforcement corruption. They discuss blurred lines between care and control in addiction and mental health and and when the rights to privacy of information should and should not be respected. And Ash freaks tf out as we finally see Dia, who hasn't not been seen in public or on the internet in years.
"Jackass star Bam grapples with addiction and Lima takes over his treatment. Online advocate BJ attacks Lima’s motives and a vicious battle ensues." - ID
Make sure to listen to 'BINGE OR BUST?' Ep. 19- The Curious Case of... Bam Margera part I and 'BINGE OR BUST?' Ep. 19- The Curious Case of... Bam Margera part II first!
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Ash talks about Dahlia's allegations that she was sex trafficked by her mother and law enforcement corruption. They discuss blurred lines between care and control in addiction and mental health and and when the rights to privacy of information should and should not be respected. And Ash freaks tf out as we finally see Dia, who hasn't not been seen in public or on the internet in years.
"Jackass star Bam grapples with addiction and Lima takes over his treatment. Online advocate BJ attacks Lima’s motives and a vicious battle ensues." - ID
Make sure to listen to 'BINGE OR BUST?' Ep. 19- The Curious Case of... Bam Margera part I and 'BINGE OR BUST?' Ep. 19- The Curious Case of... Bam Margera part II first!
🩷Or make a one time donation on Buy Me a Coffee!✨
👾We have an amazing community of friends and fans on Discord and it's open to everyone
🕸️Visit That's So Fcked Up's Website: https://tsfuthepodcast.com/
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good question, Beth, And whose side are you on? Bitch?
I mean, I guess technically, if she is doing good journalism,
she shouldn't have a side. But she's fucking horrible, so
fuck you. But yeah, thank you for asking one reasonable question.
So questioning why is bj so obsessed with this story?
Why is Lima so obsessed with controlling people's lives?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That's the better question.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Uh huh. That is so fucked up. It's fucked up,
so fucked up.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It is just so damn fuck.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's fucked up. Feeling feisty though this morning because of
sure of the topic at hand.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes, this is a feisty topic.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Look y'all, I'm not gonna lie to you. First of all,
I'm not gonna lie to you. And first I'm gonna
introduce the podcast, and then I'll go into that I'm
not gonna lie to you. This is a podcast. It's
called that So Fucked Up. It truly is a podcast
about anything that makes you go ill, that's so fucked up.
(01:19):
And I like, I hear people say that sometimes and
I'm like, yes, yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I also feel that I'll be like, oh, that's so
fucked up, and I'll be like going on riocast and
you're like fitting a ship, fitting a shit is Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I I'm your host, Ashley Love Richards, and you just
like are my co hosts Now, okay, what's up.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
This is Kristin.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's Kristin Jones. Christin.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You may know me as the one with the smunny kindle.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Missus Joe Damny.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And we play that as our entrance song into our reception.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, no, no, that's great. I love that for you.
But you know, that kind of goes into a little
something that I wanted to just talk about at the
top of the show, which was for you guys who
have been here for the long haul, I really hope
(02:16):
that you enjoy this new direction that we're going in
with these deep dives into these kind of like less
traditional true crime topics. And for anybody knew who has
just found us because of some of that shit, or
because of old episodes or whatever, welcome, So glad to
have you here. But I just really realized that I
(02:39):
think the content is most interesting from any creator when
that creator is super fucking invested in it, whether it's
like it excites them or just like they're fascinated or.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Giving a whole different feel when you talk about something
that you're really into versus this is the story we're
going to tell today, and it's fine, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
My jam or you know, it just doesn't get me
fucking literally muffling screams at eight am in my house
because I'm like, oh, you live with roommates who are
probably trying to sleep, but I'm you know, I'm finishing
my notes on today's episode, which Jesus hope you read
the fucking title because you know, or else you're like,
what's this episode about? Come on, it says right in
(03:23):
the title, get out of here. It's The Curious Case
of Bam Margera, Part three. It was a one hour
documentary that I had to make into three parts because,
as you' all know, I'm very invested in this whole
subject and.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
See fuck lots of shit so much.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I watched the documentary myself in three parts because I
have been in like an emotional mental state where I've
had to be pretty careful about the content that I consume,
and I want to encourage y'all to do the same.
If you're like me, which you probably are, you fucking
dark weirdo, you know, you look into uh, the worst
(04:05):
of humanity on a regular basis. And oh yeah, you know,
just remember to live, laugh and love and touch grass,
read some smut. Read you know, get on book.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Talk absolutely maybe I don't know, you know, stay on
the safe.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Side, safe side, yes, safe side of book talk.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And yeah, you have been disappointing me lately with the
lack of smut shots I've gotten. I know that sounded dirty, but.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Where I'm at in the story, lots of shit is
happening because I'm you know, towards the.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
End of the series, I'm still like showing her snake hole.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
See now we are we are in hiding. No wait,
there was something better about like the did jazzling.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, and somebody taking a ship or something or farting.
There was like a weird.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, yeah, there's I can't have to go back and
look at my It was great, guys.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And I'm so sure that like such a big portion
of our audience also reads that stuff, because hell yeah,
I don't like a bunch of my friends do get it,
get it girls, So I I don't read. I wish
I would like to read more. That's been a goal
(05:15):
for a long time. It's great crack a book open.
I blame the ADHD, but I'm still on, you know,
a journey of who just dealing with some trauma from
lifelong and then some you know, more recent shit too
and finding my way back in recovery, which I've been
(05:35):
in for ten years, and you know, it's like it's
it's tricky stuff, it is. And I've been a little
bit hard on myself because I've wanted to be putting
out more content, like getting back to like back up
to fucking I don't know. I wish that I was
like in a better place I guess where I could
do as much as I would like, but I'm also
(05:57):
just trying to like honor the fact that I'm not
at that place right now. So anyways, that's like a
little update on the show. What's going on. You know,
I am really hoping to get on a more voluminous schedule,
but hey, it's going as it is. And the end
(06:19):
of this episode, fucking shockefed me and I think it
will you guys as well.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, I have stayed in the dark. I haven't watched anything.
I audibly was like, no, I got your I got
your message about it. Yeah, I was like, oh my God,
here we go.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So as much as I know, like obsessively an insane
amount of information about this case, there's also been a
lot that I've not been able to find online and stuff.
So holy fuck, Kristen Strap, the fucking you guys. If
you didn't listen to parts one and two, please make
sure to do that so this makes sense. Also, like
(07:01):
we've continued to say, you should definitely listen to the
Amanda rab episode to get a little overview of this situation. First,
So where we ended last was our favorite journalist Beth Carris,
Beth Carrass, I don't give a shit saying was like
she was like, why is Beja like so obsessed with Lima?
(07:22):
Like very Regina George very and She's like, she's already
hurt Lima's brand, but that wasn't enough for her. She
had to turn towards Lima's family too. I don't know
if Lima paid them to make this.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
But also probably who they fuck.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So we start off the end of this episode with
Bja looking stupid and cunty, and they have a very
obvious like good and bad guy in this h and
BJ says, you know, she found out that Lima has
twin sisters, and that Lima said that she's qualified to
(08:01):
be doing all of this shit that she's doing because
of Dia and Dahlia's struggles with mental health, and you know,
they disappeared from YouTube, and Lima said over and over
said that she knows how to do all this conservatorship
stuff and knows about mental health and addiction because of
her sisters, and BJ thinks they might be in conservatorships,
(08:23):
which they probably are. How could they not be. Lima's
got everybody in a conservatorship.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, that seems right.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And have I introduced Dia and Dahlia in this episode.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
We've talked about them briefly, but I don't think we
have like a big overview yet because we hadn't gotten
there yet in the documentary.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, so, I mean, I guess that is a pretty
good summary about the twins. The twins have been kind
of my Roman empire. And I'm not gonna lie, like
because I don't have any fucking hard proof of shit,
and because I do know that the twins do struggle
with mental health is shit. It's a parent. I don't
(09:01):
want to make assumptions. I just want to say that
I don't trust it, dude, we fucking see Dia and Dahlia.
I literally like thought Dia was locked up somewhere or
dead because I have not been able to verify that
she's living somewhere alive and like long term locked into
a mental institution or something. DIA's in the fucking doc.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And this is new footage of them.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's like twenty twenty three. Okay, so twenty twenty five now,
but yeah, maybe twenty twenty four. Hold on, we'll do it.
What we'll get there, okay, Okay, So, oh my god, dude,
they show the fucking bodycam footage from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Have
you watched that?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I have not watched it. I've tried to be a
blank slate for the Borb.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, so if you're new to the show. Also, it's
the title of the episode, Binger Best.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Beernst, Yes, Borb.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I was like, no fucking way are they showing this,
because it but you know, it depends on how you
twist it. I was like, this, it's just not look
good though. So on December sixth, twenty twenty two, now,
Linda Omar the apparent mother okay apparent, I don't know it,
just I don't know, you guys, I don't know. They
(10:14):
show bodycam footage from the police showing up to the house.
Linda opens the door and she's like crying, and she's
like I thought I was gonna die. She was suffocating me.
And then the cop goes so she choked you, And
I was like, that feels like a leading question. First
of all, I just want to say that, like, bit fuck.
She's like yeah, and she's like showing her neck and
(10:36):
like she's fucking fine. Okay. I don't know whatever. I
wasn't there, Like, I don't know what the fucking incident was.
But I've watched all the bodycam footage, which they obviously
don't fucking show well. I mean, it would be way
too long, but they show like what they want in
the documentary. Still didn't look good. So Linda's now on
(10:58):
camera saying that she moved from Los Angeles to Tulsa
with the twins to help them to escape the harassment
and focus on their mental health, and she called the
cops on Dahlia because Dahlia was having a mental health episode.
I cannot stress how much this fucking like apartment that
they live in does not look like a home at
(11:21):
fucking all like bear mattresses type shit. Yeah. In the
fucking video, which is super disturbing, Dahlia repeatedly says it's
a production house. It's really freaky. She gets raped over
and over, and then in this video that they do show,
she says she lives to kill me and resurrect me
(11:41):
a million times. She's going through a mental health crisis.
And if you immediately write her off is crazy and
going through a mental health fucking breakdown, then it all
sounds crazy. But when you know like all of the
fucking facts of this situation, and I'll get it to
this in the episode with the twins, but like there's
(12:02):
been like a lot of fucking weird hashtags on posts
that's like I'm a medical experiment, hashtag sex trafficking. All
this weird shit.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, yeah, stuff you don't just put in there.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, she says, I feel like I'm being raped twenty
four to seven because I'm getting sex trafficked. My mom
is sex trafficking me. She needs to be in jail.
This is illegal. And they said in a documentary that
she had previously tried to report to police that her
mom was sex trafficking her and she goes, it's illegal.
Why does she get to do this? And the cops
(12:35):
you can tell that, like the male cop is trying
to like listen to her and like calm her down,
but the female cop has no fucking interest at all.
She's like, you just need to cuff her. She's crazy.
They just take a statement from Linda and hauled Allia off.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That's so surprising that it would be I don't want
to come off, you know, however, but it's so surprise
that it would be the female cop that's like, nope,
just get her out of here, whatever, and that the
male cop is like, no, you know, we hear this
and we're going to talk about it and see what's
going on. Because I would think that as a female cop,
if I was hearing somebody say I'm being sex trafficked.
(13:15):
My mom is doing this to me, even if I'm
not sure if she's having just some kind of episode
or if it's true, I feel like you would investigate that.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So this is speculation on my part, but toldal h
PD is literally known for being corrupt as fack. Oklahoma
is a fucking like one of the absolute biggest major
hot spots in the United States for sex trafficking.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Also didn't know that interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I just I don't fucking trust any of it, you guys, Okay,
And I will always, with this case, be very fucking
apparent when I'm speculating, because I don't want to come
off as like conspiratorial because I wasn't there. I don't
know the facts. We're still working on trying to figure
this shit out, but it's so convoluted.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Right, It's hard to know because there is so much.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So Linda and Lima are claiming that Dahlia is only
parroting what she's heard from Bjay's channel.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So she's just hanging out at home watching BJ's youtubes.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Uh huh. And because BJ has made her mental health
crises public, which no, Lima did that because she constantly
violates what I'm sure has to be hippolat by talking
openly about their mental health issues.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, she talked about it on Mark's channel.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Uh huh and everywhere fucking else. And they're saying that
by BJ putting attention on this, it has put them
like in full danger. Look, even if BJ is wrong
and Edny investigating that we do ends up being wrong.
Even if that's the case, all of this is fucking
(15:01):
sketchy enough that it needs to be examined.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yes, if nothing else, just.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
If somebody is having a fucking She's not having a
fucking mental breakdown, dude, She's speaking clearly. She's obviously in
high distress though.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I feel like, who wouldn't be in that situation, right, And.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So they haul her off. And then we have this girl,
Jamie Gilmore, who is in the documentary being presented as
like this huge BJ fan, but there's literally footage of
her on her YouTube channel. Maybe she took it down.
I don't know, but talking to Lima on the phone
and Lima being like, oh.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It was so nice that message you sent or whatever,
Oh I remember this, and they keep talking about that
surprise army, which BJ has repeatedly said she never had
any part of right and she.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Actively discourages people from contacting anybody she talks about.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's in every one of her videos.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
She absolute did not send anybody. The only thing she
did was say, reach out to your favorite creators on
YouTube with big platforms and stuff, inform them about Amanda
Rab's story so we can get this out. That was her,
like quote sicking people on Lima, And then we have
another former member of that Surprise army, Casey Fowler, saying
(16:24):
that he was starting to feel bad for Lima and
everybody turned on him and everybody's their whole thing? Is that,
Like BJ's just doing this for clout and fame. I
don't love her motives or the direction she's leaned into now.
But she only has four hundred and forty six thousand
YouTube subscribers between her two main channels, half a million subscribers,
(16:48):
I mean, fuck me, I would love that.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Like, that's not that many though, can the grand scheme? Yeah,
big YouTubers have at least a million, The big YouTube
have at least a million subscribers, right, So the fact
that she has less than half a million, and she's
been sued by Lima like multiple fucking times and Lima's
(17:11):
lost every time. There's no way that she could not
have lost money covering this case. And it's not like
she's gotten hugely famous or even really good recognition other
than from her followers, which, like I said, half a
million is not that fucking many. It's in the grand
scheme of things. She does not have that many supporters
(17:35):
she's not getting super famous off of this. I don't
know how much legal bills are. I don't know how much,
you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I know she had to go fund me for her
legal stuff. I saw that in her one of her
videos when she was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Oh, that's only made, Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, I didn't check him on how much it had made, but.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I feel like lawyers are expensive.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Anyways, Now we are back in Westchester, Pennsylvania. It's July
twenty seventh, twenty three. Lima's guardianship is over, but she's
still close to the fam of course, and you know,
she wants to offer support as Bam is going to
court for assaulting his brother. I screamed again. I fucking
(18:14):
screamed again. She goes, you know, like, we want to
intervene with the court and probably try to get Bam
in like a guardianship. And I was like, that's Lima's
favorite word, dude. And the lack of self awareness as
she said we want to get Bam into a guardianship
(18:34):
because what does she say, because Bam doesn't think that
he's doing anything wrong. Because Lima is the judge and
jury of Bam is free to fuck man, just live
your life.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
He may not make the best choices, that's not everybody
does that, but it's not Lima's job to make sure
that he makes the best choices.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
So Beth, Beth Carris actually is like she questioned a
little bit later, She's like, what's up with that? But
I fucking howled. I was like, shut the fuck up.
You're trying to get Bam into another conservatorship, you psychopath.
So he pleads not guilty to assault and terroristic threats
(19:18):
against his brother, and the judge orders him to do
regular drug and alcohol screenings. And as if this is
noteworthy was released without a guardianship, I feel like that
should never have to be noteworthy of, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, if you're released with one that's different.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh yes, I'm gonna play his Instagram fucking oo. Okay,
see does this not make better content? When I'm like,
down your fucking throat with this shit.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
And it's especially fun because I watched nothing so that
it would be fresh.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Okay, nice, I said, bo uh. So they say three
hours later at Castle Bam, so we're back to the
start of the documentary where Lima's with April and they're
all frantic because BAM's trying to get onto his own
fucking property that you know for some reason his brother
(20:14):
is Lea saying, and he hates his brother. What's that?
I smell? Greedy family trying to fucking take people's shit over.
That's what I smell. Girls say what I mean? Do
you smell that little bit? I smell shit, and I
don't like it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's not a good smell.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I want right now to point out fucking the fact
that when you have substance abuse issues or you have
mental health issues, people just fucking write off what you
say is crazy. And if you fucking listen to what
people are saying, and that's not exactly I'm sorry, but
Amanda rab saying I don't want no girl my age,
(20:54):
video gaming my thoughts, and her and Limar are the
same age, and everybody's like, oh, she's so crazy video
gaming her thought fuck me. Even his supposed fans are like, oh, Bam,
you so crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's like hmmm mmmm mmmmmmm.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay. So I hate that he played music in the
background because it makes it harder to hear what he's saying.
But I want y'all to fucking listen to this and
put aside your notions that he's crazy or fucked up,
or put those assumptions aside to just listen to this human.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Okay, just like you, we're flicking channels only to find
on a twenty four hour countdown on the Curious Case
of Watch Van Marjara Britney Spears my two favorite people.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
However, I'm look confused on who it was really about.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It took called the Curious Case of Lima, but nobody
would have watched. But man if I signed off on that,
they didn't blow my face, I don't remember. Shit. I
was probably higher than Jimmy Crick on fucking passaults and
that treatments that are on eighteen different medications. Yeah, but
after watching it, I'm finally glad that somebody did the
research to expose Lima and her fucking nutty behavior.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You know, the.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Curiosity of whatever taking an autopsy report on Amanda Rat's
death and making people wear this aura helmet unlicensed.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
I put that shit on any drug add it could
go into Caesar from that any well, you see t
rex in your left eye and he's trying to eat
you and on the left eyes and kidning cat licking milk.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
So it's very confusing, but you.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Know, you could be on somebody drugs thinking that shit's
real and going to a Caesar.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Now I can tell you this.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I'm forty five years old. I have not gone into
any Caesars in my lifetime until I met Lima at
the age of forty three, I went into five steezers
twenty minutes a piece, only to wake up eight days
on life support with a fucking tube gum my throat
with COVID and pneumonia.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, okay, yeah, So it.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Doesn't take a science rocket to figure out that that's
not a coincidence, and a lot of.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Question about hers.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
And we're very grateful that that's been said and out
there and we didn't look horrible and everyone knows that
he has a happy ending.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And he's doing great.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I'm just glad that that part of my terrible, terrible
life is over and I'm not dead from it, saved.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
By Earth, Ames or you. And we need Pritty to
call us because you say, I just free Brittany as well.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
People hone in on the fact that instead of saying
a rocket scientist, he says a science rocket.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah. People do that. They get words flipped.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Like hi, Hi, Hi, Hello, is this on? Please?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes you are on?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
He says, I'm in treatment, highest shit on eighteen different medications.
I know for a fact that especially in Florida. And
I talked to my friend in Australia who says, you know,
like they're in detox, Like you don't get fucking meds
unless you're like at risk of dying, which you are
if you're coming down from like I think, alcohol on
(24:00):
heroin I believe are the only withdrawals that can actually
kill you. Don't quote me. I know alcohol for sure.
Withdrawals can kill people. Interesting. So him saying that like
he's high as shit in treatment then doesn't know what's
going on checks the fuck out because they Baker and
Marchman acted him over and over, which basically says you're
(24:20):
too mentally unstable or on substances to function or be
trusted and you need to be locked up, and it
gets like crazy overused in Florida. He says he's never
had a seizure until he met Lima. Any addict could
go into seizure if they have that many medications in
(24:40):
their system, and then they're put into fucking VR. I'm
not a science rocket Okay, Yeah, let's focus on that,
you guys. But I don't know. Fuck me, if like,
I don't know the science, I'd have to look further
into it. But that sounds about fucking right that if
you're on all these different fucking medications. Yeah, and I
(25:03):
know this because I've been fucking high as shit and
detox myself, dog, and especially it's sketchy or treatment places,
people are cheeking drugs, They're fucking doing all this shit
and uh bam didn't want to be sober. I would
not be surprised if he like figured out, you know,
at some point, how to get high in treatment, you know,
or he was fucking high because they were keeping him high. Amanda,
(25:24):
nothing in her autopsy report says anything about a seizure,
and then Lima said that she died from a seizure disorder.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Seizure right, Yeah, that caught my ear when he said
he never had a seizure until he met Lima, and
I was like, ohsh that's what Amanda supposedly died from.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But according to Lima, why would Lima say that? It
makes her look really bad, especially if Amanda did not
die from anything seizure related. Also, can't autopsy and coroners
be paid off.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You would hope not, but I think anything's possible.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Anybody can be paid off. That's why they have cases,
cases or whatever. They both have a leading expert in
fibromyalgia or whatever, but they have highly different opinions, weirdly
because they're getting paid to give a certain testimony. Right again, though,
it's weird to me that she would say that Amanda
had seizure complications if that were not the case, because
(26:18):
it just tells on her. But we know that Amanda
was before Bam, which trips me the fuck out. Remember
that does Amanda had already died under Lima's quote care
when they brought her to save Bam.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I always forget that too. It feels like he's first,
but no, she is. So maybe she said that about
the Caesar disorder because she didn't think about it, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right, God, she's so stupid, dude, Oh my god, she's
listening to her talk is like my numbing because she's
like legitimately dumb.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's hard in the vice and for me it's the vice.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So we're back to the start of the dock. April.
BAM's mom said she gave the gate coat to Bam
so she could get her stuff, and she told Lima like,
oh Bam is coming and ah Bad's coming. Everybody bring
the fuck out. So now we got Lima back on camera.
She says April gave the gatecode to Bam, and she
(27:16):
says she's like, like, April knew that Bam was talking
trash about me on the internet and had assaulted his brother. Basically,
like what a dumb bitch for giving him the gate code.
So she calls the cops and says Bam threatened to
crash through the gate, like okay, so like when do
you expect him to be there? And she's like, oh,
(27:37):
he's already here.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
And this is his own property. Correct, This isn't like okay.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
So it's he's at the hobbit hole literally trying to
get some of his belongings. That's like it. And we
go back to the you know scene of Bam asking
Lima why she's so evil because she has just been
in the court three hours prior, trying to get him
back into a fucking conservatorship.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yes, I like that, I like that, he asks that.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And then Beth questions why Lima would call the cops
if things were peaceful, She says, Remember when Amanda rab
assaulted her dad with a pipe and got arrested, and
you know, Lima stepped in and Amanda was given a choice,
and Lima had legal control of Amanda's treatment. So Lima
no longer has control over Bam. Is she trying to
(28:22):
orchestrate a situation where she can get it back? And
I was like, good question, Beth, And whose side are
you on? Bitch? I mean, I guess technically, if she
is doing good journalism, she shouldn't have a side, but
she's fucking horrible, So fuck you. But yeah, thank you
for asking one reasonable question instead of questioning why is
bej so obsessed with this story? Why is Lima so
(28:44):
obsessed with controlling people's lives?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's the better question?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Uh huh the show. But now we're back on the
you know their uh Limah and BAM's relationship is obviously
beyond repair according to Beth, but Lima's personal journey through
mental health, addiction and guardianships, of course, is far from over.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
No, that's terrifying. That's ominous. Way to leave that on
a high note.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Best, Oh, okay, and now is probably when I definitely
woke up anybody in my house who was not sleeping anymore.
But this is when I audibly like what the fucked again?
Like I can't, I cannot write, I can't right now.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I can't know what happens. Freaking no, okay, take a bath,
you freaking out, man.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Freaking out? Maon no, Like literally, if real stories could
be an acid trip, like this is it?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, this doesn't feel real. It is, but it doesn't
feel it.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Hey, I am I don't like the amount of just
like insane emotion. It's like I can't handle it. Okay,
So May thirteenth, twenty twenty four. It is today, February twentieth,
twenty twenty five. So this is I don't do math.
What nine months ago? I feel like that's rash.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah about me?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, you guys. We're in Long Beach, California.
My next note is I am dying because who do
we see in the car but Dia, you guys. Dia
hasn't been seen in years. Dahlia's only been seen making
very ominous YouTube videos and then on body ham footage
(30:22):
claiming to be sex trafficked. I literally was like, this
is it like I said, it was like going to
be my life's mission to find out if Dio was
alive and where she was, and you know what, like,
I'm still not gonna drop this, Okay, guys, like fuck
you because this footage is like you're just like, damn,
like this does seem weird, but like we know that
this is maybe one of the worst production companies in
(30:44):
history allegedly. I feel like I should fun probably throw
that in investigation discovery, you know what, come the fuck
at me, because I feel like that could only be
like good publicity. Also, what's your name of that thing
for you to take? So it's all the worst, no
really though, just terrible, terrible journalism allegedly in my opinion.
(31:06):
So DIA's in the card, I'm screaming, and the producer
is asking Lima and Dia how they feel, and Lima
says that in May of twenty twenty four, you know,
at this point, Dollia checked herself into a mental health
facility in Long Beach. Okay, oh my god, oh my god,
that's where I was in the mental hospital for twelve days.
(31:27):
Long Beach, go back.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Is she still there undercover?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
And she can fucking tell you as a fact. And
y'all I have mentioned that I was kept there for
twelve days for like very superficial self harm. I'm not
saying it's like not a big deal, you shouldn't do that,
but fuck I was not suicidal on it anyway. This
doctor was absolutely getting kickbacks for having me there. I
don't know how, but I was medically trafficked. Okay hmm
(31:54):
in a far less severe way. I don't know though. Man,
that's pretty crazy to be literally stuck in one under
or the fucking cuckoo's nest twelve days, and when I
wanted to get out, I had to like appeal to
like three fucking people in the hospital to prove to
them that I was not gonna kill myself, was not
(32:15):
a danger to myself for others. And I had to
have my uncle and sister there to tell them that
they would keep an eye on me and that like
I wasn't totally out of my mind. It scared the
shit out of me. I did not have the choice
to leave. It was not up to me.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's scary.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And I can tell you that like a mental hospitals
like one of the worst places for people struggling with
mental health. It's all fluorescent lights all day. There's a
sitting room where there's like one TV and everybody just
like stares at it. I fully was like Jack Nicholson
in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I was like,
(32:52):
you guys, let's play a game. Come on, fuck, we
got approved of them. Were normal, you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And that truly sounds like a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It was like, I'm lucky I didn't get monomized, because
if it was like fifty years ago or I don't know,
probably probably reason you might have. Yeah. So apparently Dolia
checked herself into a mental health facility in Long Beach,
which I just find hard to believe because I don't
think anybody who has any experience in mental institutions would
(33:22):
check themselves into one of those. I don't know. Okay, again, speculation. Fuck,
I don't know the twines Dahlia and Dia. If you're
listening and you can reach out to me, just please,
I want to hear it from your mouth without producers
or lima or your mom around.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I need to hear blink twice if you're okay.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, tsif you the podcast at gmail dot com. So
they say that three weeks into her stay at this place,
she disappeared. Also, though if she was at the place
I was, there's like no way you could get out
of that. So maybe it was a different mental health facility.
I don't fucking know, but I couldn't escape obviously. In prison,
(34:02):
Oh my god, it was so scary. We got fifteen
minutes of outside time of day.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh my.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And they didn't let you smoke cigarettes. Also, it's like, oh,
you're crazy and you're a smoker. Well you can't have that.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Sorry, you're struggling right now. Too bad.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So apparently she breaks out of this place that she
checked herself into, been missing for twelve days, and Lima's like,
Dahlia's really dedicated to working on herself. And once all
of this internet stuff taken down, and she kept reporting
the bodycam footage to YouTube. Oh my god, this is
just dawning on me. This is just dawning on me.
Oh fuck off. Okay, Dahlia wants this footage of her
(34:39):
having a mental breakdown off of the Internet and out
of the public eye so badly because it's scared her
so much for her on privacy and protection that she
repeatedly reported the video to YouTube to get it taken down.
But then weirdly they show that in the documentary that
she's so willingly participated in.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Isn't it weird?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's super weird that she was like, I don't want
it on YouTube, but go ahead and put it in
this documentary.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yes, the streaming service is fine.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Lima's actively saying that Dahlia wants all of this stuff
taken down and like Bjay has exploited her sister's mental
health issues, when that's like literally all of that she's
done forever. So they're walking the streets with posters because
they're like, we can't go to the internet anymore. It would
just convolute everything and a blobbery blah. And they get
a call from someone that they found Dahlia by the
(35:37):
library in full psychosis. And this is where I'm just
like fuck okay, but also editing, go fuck yourself, okay, okay,
let's stay okay. She's in a bathroom stall freaking out.
She says, get the fuck away from me, you crazy lady.
I don't know who's talking to. Who's she talking to?
Lima says that she kept saying that's Amanda rab And
(35:59):
repeating stuff from BJ's videos and I was like, yeah, right,
But she does say hi Amanda to somebody and then
in the fucking ambulance, which I guess this is just
all fine footage to be showing as well. I guess
Dollia is just like she wasn't having a mental breakdown.
In the body cam footage. She was in distress, pretty
coherently talking about Listen. She's like, oh my mom lives
(36:22):
to like kill me and resurrect me, and that sounds crazy.
But the thing is, remember that VR is very involved
in all of this, So this shit like sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But isn't really when you think about it.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, you know. So she's in the ambulance and she says, Liama,
you're the coolest, and like it is. It's jarring. It's
heartbreaking to watch because she is obviously not in her
right mind. We hear Dia for like a couple minutes.
The way that she's speaking is very kind of like
(36:54):
I don't know, like kind of like short and anxious,
like hope we can find her. It makes her seem unstable, okay,
And that's the thing. I do believe that the twins
have severe mental health issues, and I also think that
those have probably been exploited insanely by her sister, Oh yeah,
(37:16):
and or mom and or I don't know who else.
So it's real fucking easy to not put any of
it on Lima or anybody and just be like, well,
they're just crazy. Look at how crazy they are, and
we're just trying to take care of them. Yeah. So
Beth says that, you know, she wants to believe that
both of them, Lima and Bja had good intentions because
(37:39):
they both have very personal connections with people that they
love struggling with mental health and addiction. BJ's dad died
of a meth overdose, and that's something she's spoken a
lot about on her channel and something that actually just
really changed my mind about how I thought about this shit,
because she says, I would have loved if my dad
didn't fucking die alone of OD, But there's nothing that
(38:01):
I or anybody else could have stopped him from doing that.
And I don't believe that he should have forcibly been
incarcerated to appease us, right, I think that you should,
like dog fucking doctor Kavorkian, like assisted suicide whatever better
be legal. If I get to any point where I
start to lose my mind, because if I am like
(38:22):
a vegetable in any way mine body, I'm out. Dude.
It's not up to other fucking people how you live
and die unless you're like actively harming people physically or
like whatever mentally. You know, worrying your family doesn't count. Sorry,
it sucks. It sucks. But also, my parents are probably
(38:46):
like gonna fucking there's a good chance that like they
will have a fate of like dying alone on the streets,
and I really really fucking wish that wasn't the case.
But at the end of the day, like I've tried
to do what I could, nothing short of trying to
put them under my fucking control so that I could
(39:10):
sleep better at night, knowing what that my mom's fucking
locked in an institution, And yeah, hot take you know
you guys, I don't know, but that's me. She said
they were both being sketchy. I don't think that was
her words verbatim, but like they were both promoting themselves
heavily on the internet, which we know can be a
very dangerous place. And I kind of love that also
(39:31):
because it ties back into what I was saying earlier,
is that like there's a lot of shit going on
on the Internet that is shaping the real world, and
it can be a very dangerous place. And that's like
what That's all I want to talk about now, because
I'm like, this is fucking crazy, all of it. Like
what the fuck? She says? It seems that Bjay's focus
has shifted from a desire to help the vulnerable to
(39:54):
serving self interests, again, something I agree with. Then they
end with Dahlia continues to struggle with mental health and addiction.
Ura the company is fucking dead. Lima's libel suit against
Beja is pending. That's not true anymore. Any suits that
Lima has tried to bring against Bej She's lost. Bam
(40:15):
pled guilty to assaulting his brother and then was arrested
for violating his probation. The end.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
What a way to end.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
So I guess the moral of this story is that
everyone is terrible, but Lima is the biggest victim. Even
though like she's sketched, she's still like the most sympathetic
character in Beth Size or the Eyes of Investigation Discovery,
which makes you question a lot, say you, guys, that
was the curious case of biomarch era and yeah, that's
(40:46):
just the tip.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Just the tip, just for a second.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
But I also did a two part episode with Kim
Davis from Slaycation about the opioid epidemic and the Florida
Shuffle because Bam talks a lot about the Florida Shuffle
because that's what Leah got him caught up in for
like a year or something. And it all just fucking
webs together, just crazy. And yeah, right now it's kind
(41:09):
of Kristen and I trying to solve this mystery. So
it's gonna this is a long term ride we're on
and it won't become like the whole show, So we
will be focusing on other cases and producing other content
in the meantime because Lima, Amanda, Bam, the Twins, etc.
(41:29):
It's a marathon, it's not a sprint. But I think
we've laid a pretty good foundation at this point. Yes,
that also brings me back around to Investigation Discovery and
the curious case of Natalia Grace. So I pulled our
patrons and I said, step y'all, you're my favorite people,
(41:52):
and that's true. I love y'all. Should I finish what
I started? Because last year I covered all six episodes
of the Serious Case of Natalia Grace again Beth Carris
id just allegedly, in my opinion, just awful, awful journalism.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Piece of garbage.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
But I have to say one of the best performances
of my life was do you remember the Michael reenactment?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I did, I did, I tried, I tried. It was great.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Fuck, it was so good. Oscar Jinks, Oh, oh my god,
you owe me a coke, cocaine. You guys should just
help up coke. I didn't see that, but I did.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
That's how I get my caffeine.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
So I said. The last season just came out because
they milked the fuck out of that, dude. I don't know.
I think it was a total of like eighteen episodes
or some bullshit, because I didn't cover the first season
because I had already covered Natalia. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You might have talked about the season as a whole,
but I don't remember there being like an episode for
every episode, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I can't, I can't, I can't. But they literally made
the story into three season, just dragging it the fuck out. Yeah, geez,
all the while putting a lot of speculation on Natalia
and here's the thing. I don't know Natalia. There's some
things that I find questionable and you know, a little
(43:16):
bit strange. Also, regardless of all of that, it's obvious
that the Barnetts are terrible people and that Natalia was
a dependent. Even if she wasn't a child, which I
believe she was, she had a form of Dwarfism that
made it basically impossible to function as an adult doing
(43:38):
everything on her own because she couldn't move in certain
ways or reach certain things and stuff. Right, So I
pulled the patrons. Two out of three said finish it up.
So I said, fuck it, let's do it. And actually,
I'm really glad that I decided that because my decision
was I got a nail in the coffin yesterday, I
(44:00):
got a notification. No, it just came up as a
preview on YouTube. So Hulu has a drama coming out
next month called Good American Family about this fucking case. Bitch.
When I fucking tell you that this is gonna be
such a goddamn hack job on Natalia, I can't stress
(44:23):
that enough. You can tell in the previews that the
Barnetts are portrayed as caring and like normal which they're not.
Holy shit. Okay, So the preview went up yesterday and
when I saw the preview, they had announced the show
five hours ago. Today, one day later, the preview has
two point one million views on YouTube. Oh snap, as
(44:44):
if Natalia's life has not already been ruined enough by
all of the trauma that she's experienced and then Investigation
Discovery exploiting her entire fucking life. And I'm going to guess,
I don't know, this is just a guess. I'm again
that idea is gonna leave us on a cliffhanger at
the end of the series finale. Is she an evil
(45:06):
fucking dwarf like the movie Orphan or not? And it's like, no,
that's how they left the last season. Then I can
only assume they're gonna do that again. So yeah, I
have a problem with true crime dramas. Some of them
are produced ethically. A Friend of the Family is a
really good example, because Jane Broberg and her mom were
(45:28):
involved in the production. Do I still watch some of them? Yeah,
you guys, I've said that before. We try to do
our best with the media that we consume, but you.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Know, fuck, sometimes you just have to see it.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Then I'm gonna have to watch this though, so that
I can fucking critique it on the show, because this
looks insane to me. Dude, Oh my god, And I
don't know. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
I can't breathe it's so much.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
But see some hot garbage.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
There's like a tiny part of the preview that's like,
looks like it's questioning the Barnetts, but it's I don't know.
You're welcome, you, guys. I'm watching the fucking garbage for you,
and I'm taking it out because Hulu nor ID fuck them.
They don't need your views. Let me do it for you.
(46:20):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I love you, and you get wonderful commentary. That's all
I have for today.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
I mean, as if that wasn't enough, but Jesus, but
we did it. Fucking Christ. I'm out of words.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
So that was reel as fun and real fucked up.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
And we'll see you next time for who the fuck
does I don't I don't know right on you guys,
but it's gonna be a it's gonna be a wild ride.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
It's gonna be fun, you big guy motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
By up so fucked up. It's just
Good question, Beth, And whose side are you on? Bitch?
I mean, I guess technically, if she is doing good journalism,
she shouldn't have a side. But she's fucking horrible, so
fuck you. But yeah, thank you for asking one reasonable question.
So questioning why is bj so obsessed with this story?
Why is Lima so obsessed with controlling people's lives?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That's the better question.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Uh huh. That is so fucked up. It's fucked up,
so fucked up.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It is just so damn fuck.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's fucked up. Feeling feisty though this morning because of
sure of the topic at hand.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes, this is a feisty topic.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Look y'all, I'm not gonna lie to you. First of all,
I'm not gonna lie to you. And first I'm gonna
introduce the podcast, and then I'll go into that I'm
not gonna lie to you. This is a podcast. It's
called that So Fucked Up. It truly is a podcast
about anything that makes you go ill, that's so fucked up.
(01:19):
And I like, I hear people say that sometimes and
I'm like, yes, yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I also feel that I'll be like, oh, that's so
fucked up, and I'll be like going on riocast and
you're like fitting a ship, fitting a shit is Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I I'm your host, Ashley Love Richards, and you just
like are my co hosts Now, okay, what's up.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
This is Kristin.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's Kristin Jones. Christin.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You may know me as the one with the smunny kindle.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Missus Joe Damny.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And we play that as our entrance song into our reception.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, no, no, that's great. I love that for you.
But you know, that kind of goes into a little
something that I wanted to just talk about at the
top of the show, which was for you guys who
have been here for the long haul, I really hope
(02:16):
that you enjoy this new direction that we're going in
with these deep dives into these kind of like less
traditional true crime topics. And for anybody knew who has
just found us because of some of that shit, or
because of old episodes or whatever, welcome, So glad to
have you here. But I just really realized that I
(02:39):
think the content is most interesting from any creator when
that creator is super fucking invested in it, whether it's
like it excites them or just like they're fascinated or.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Giving a whole different feel when you talk about something
that you're really into versus this is the story we're
going to tell today, and it's fine, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
My jam or you know, it just doesn't get me
fucking literally muffling screams at eight am in my house
because I'm like, oh, you live with roommates who are
probably trying to sleep, but I'm you know, I'm finishing
my notes on today's episode, which Jesus hope you read
the fucking title because you know, or else you're like,
what's this episode about? Come on, it says right in
(03:23):
the title, get out of here. It's The Curious Case
of Bam Margera, Part three. It was a one hour
documentary that I had to make into three parts because,
as you' all know, I'm very invested in this whole
subject and.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
See fuck lots of shit so much.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I watched the documentary myself in three parts because I
have been in like an emotional mental state where I've
had to be pretty careful about the content that I consume,
and I want to encourage y'all to do the same.
If you're like me, which you probably are, you fucking
dark weirdo, you know, you look into uh, the worst
(04:05):
of humanity on a regular basis. And oh yeah, you know,
just remember to live, laugh and love and touch grass,
read some smut. Read you know, get on book.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Talk absolutely maybe I don't know, you know, stay on
the safe.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Side, safe side, yes, safe side of book talk.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And yeah, you have been disappointing me lately with the
lack of smut shots I've gotten. I know that sounded dirty, but.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Where I'm at in the story, lots of shit is
happening because I'm you know, towards the.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
End of the series, I'm still like showing her snake hole.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
See now we are we are in hiding. No wait,
there was something better about like the did jazzling.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, and somebody taking a ship or something or farting.
There was like a weird.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, yeah, there's I can't have to go back and
look at my It was great, guys.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And I'm so sure that like such a big portion
of our audience also reads that stuff, because hell yeah,
I don't like a bunch of my friends do get it,
get it girls, So I I don't read. I wish
I would like to read more. That's been a goal
(05:15):
for a long time. It's great crack a book open.
I blame the ADHD, but I'm still on, you know,
a journey of who just dealing with some trauma from
lifelong and then some you know, more recent shit too
and finding my way back in recovery, which I've been
(05:35):
in for ten years, and you know, it's like it's
it's tricky stuff, it is. And I've been a little
bit hard on myself because I've wanted to be putting
out more content, like getting back to like back up
to fucking I don't know. I wish that I was
like in a better place I guess where I could
do as much as I would like, but I'm also
(05:57):
just trying to like honor the fact that I'm not
at that place right now. So anyways, that's like a
little update on the show. What's going on. You know,
I am really hoping to get on a more voluminous schedule,
but hey, it's going as it is. And the end
(06:19):
of this episode, fucking shockefed me and I think it
will you guys as well.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, I have stayed in the dark. I haven't watched anything.
I audibly was like, no, I got your I got
your message about it. Yeah, I was like, oh my God,
here we go.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So as much as I know, like obsessively an insane
amount of information about this case, there's also been a
lot that I've not been able to find online and stuff.
So holy fuck, Kristen Strap, the fucking you guys. If
you didn't listen to parts one and two, please make
sure to do that so this makes sense. Also, like
(07:01):
we've continued to say, you should definitely listen to the
Amanda rab episode to get a little overview of this situation. First,
So where we ended last was our favorite journalist Beth Carris,
Beth Carrass, I don't give a shit saying was like
she was like, why is Beja like so obsessed with Lima?
(07:22):
Like very Regina George very and She's like, she's already
hurt Lima's brand, but that wasn't enough for her. She
had to turn towards Lima's family too. I don't know
if Lima paid them to make this.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
But also probably who they fuck.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So we start off the end of this episode with
Bja looking stupid and cunty, and they have a very
obvious like good and bad guy in this h and
BJ says, you know, she found out that Lima has
twin sisters, and that Lima said that she's qualified to
(08:01):
be doing all of this shit that she's doing because
of Dia and Dahlia's struggles with mental health, and you know,
they disappeared from YouTube, and Lima said over and over
said that she knows how to do all this conservatorship
stuff and knows about mental health and addiction because of
her sisters, and BJ thinks they might be in conservatorships,
(08:23):
which they probably are. How could they not be. Lima's
got everybody in a conservatorship.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, that seems right.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And have I introduced Dia and Dahlia in this episode.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
We've talked about them briefly, but I don't think we
have like a big overview yet because we hadn't gotten
there yet in the documentary.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, so, I mean, I guess that is a pretty
good summary about the twins. The twins have been kind
of my Roman empire. And I'm not gonna lie, like
because I don't have any fucking hard proof of shit,
and because I do know that the twins do struggle
with mental health is shit. It's a parent. I don't
(09:01):
want to make assumptions. I just want to say that
I don't trust it, dude, we fucking see Dia and Dahlia.
I literally like thought Dia was locked up somewhere or
dead because I have not been able to verify that
she's living somewhere alive and like long term locked into
a mental institution or something. DIA's in the fucking doc.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And this is new footage of them.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's like twenty twenty three. Okay, so twenty twenty five now,
but yeah, maybe twenty twenty four. Hold on, we'll do it.
What we'll get there, okay, Okay, So, oh my god, dude,
they show the fucking bodycam footage from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Have
you watched that?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I have not watched it. I've tried to be a
blank slate for the Borb.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, so if you're new to the show. Also, it's
the title of the episode, Binger Best.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Beernst, Yes, Borb.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I was like, no fucking way are they showing this,
because it but you know, it depends on how you
twist it. I was like, this, it's just not look
good though. So on December sixth, twenty twenty two, now,
Linda Omar the apparent mother okay apparent, I don't know it,
just I don't know, you guys, I don't know. They
(10:14):
show bodycam footage from the police showing up to the house.
Linda opens the door and she's like crying, and she's
like I thought I was gonna die. She was suffocating me.
And then the cop goes so she choked you, And
I was like, that feels like a leading question. First
of all, I just want to say that, like, bit fuck.
She's like yeah, and she's like showing her neck and
(10:36):
like she's fucking fine. Okay. I don't know whatever. I
wasn't there, Like, I don't know what the fucking incident was.
But I've watched all the bodycam footage, which they obviously
don't fucking show well. I mean, it would be way
too long, but they show like what they want in
the documentary. Still didn't look good. So Linda's now on
(10:58):
camera saying that she moved from Los Angeles to Tulsa
with the twins to help them to escape the harassment
and focus on their mental health, and she called the
cops on Dahlia because Dahlia was having a mental health episode.
I cannot stress how much this fucking like apartment that
they live in does not look like a home at
(11:21):
fucking all like bear mattresses type shit. Yeah. In the
fucking video, which is super disturbing, Dahlia repeatedly says it's
a production house. It's really freaky. She gets raped over
and over, and then in this video that they do show,
she says she lives to kill me and resurrect me
(11:41):
a million times. She's going through a mental health crisis.
And if you immediately write her off is crazy and
going through a mental health fucking breakdown, then it all
sounds crazy. But when you know like all of the
fucking facts of this situation, and I'll get it to
this in the episode with the twins, but like there's
(12:02):
been like a lot of fucking weird hashtags on posts
that's like I'm a medical experiment, hashtag sex trafficking. All
this weird shit.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, yeah, stuff you don't just put in there.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, she says, I feel like I'm being raped twenty
four to seven because I'm getting sex trafficked. My mom
is sex trafficking me. She needs to be in jail.
This is illegal. And they said in a documentary that
she had previously tried to report to police that her
mom was sex trafficking her and she goes, it's illegal.
Why does she get to do this? And the cops
(12:35):
you can tell that, like the male cop is trying
to like listen to her and like calm her down,
but the female cop has no fucking interest at all.
She's like, you just need to cuff her. She's crazy.
They just take a statement from Linda and hauled Allia off.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That's so surprising that it would be I don't want
to come off, you know, however, but it's so surprise
that it would be the female cop that's like, nope,
just get her out of here, whatever, and that the
male cop is like, no, you know, we hear this
and we're going to talk about it and see what's
going on. Because I would think that as a female cop,
if I was hearing somebody say I'm being sex trafficked.
(13:15):
My mom is doing this to me, even if I'm
not sure if she's having just some kind of episode
or if it's true, I feel like you would investigate that.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So this is speculation on my part, but toldal h
PD is literally known for being corrupt as fack. Oklahoma
is a fucking like one of the absolute biggest major
hot spots in the United States for sex trafficking.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Also didn't know that interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I just I don't fucking trust any of it, you guys, Okay,
And I will always, with this case, be very fucking
apparent when I'm speculating, because I don't want to come
off as like conspiratorial because I wasn't there. I don't
know the facts. We're still working on trying to figure
this shit out, but it's so convoluted.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Right, It's hard to know because there is so much.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So Linda and Lima are claiming that Dahlia is only
parroting what she's heard from Bjay's channel.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So she's just hanging out at home watching BJ's youtubes.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Uh huh. And because BJ has made her mental health
crises public, which no, Lima did that because she constantly
violates what I'm sure has to be hippolat by talking
openly about their mental health issues.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, she talked about it on Mark's channel.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Uh huh and everywhere fucking else. And they're saying that
by BJ putting attention on this, it has put them
like in full danger. Look, even if BJ is wrong
and Edny investigating that we do ends up being wrong.
Even if that's the case, all of this is fucking
(15:01):
sketchy enough that it needs to be examined.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yes, if nothing else, just.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
If somebody is having a fucking She's not having a
fucking mental breakdown, dude, She's speaking clearly. She's obviously in
high distress though.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I feel like, who wouldn't be in that situation, right, And.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So they haul her off. And then we have this girl,
Jamie Gilmore, who is in the documentary being presented as
like this huge BJ fan, but there's literally footage of
her on her YouTube channel. Maybe she took it down.
I don't know, but talking to Lima on the phone
and Lima being like, oh.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It was so nice that message you sent or whatever,
Oh I remember this, and they keep talking about that
surprise army, which BJ has repeatedly said she never had
any part of right and she.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Actively discourages people from contacting anybody she talks about.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's in every one of her videos.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
She absolute did not send anybody. The only thing she
did was say, reach out to your favorite creators on
YouTube with big platforms and stuff, inform them about Amanda
Rab's story so we can get this out. That was her,
like quote sicking people on Lima, And then we have
another former member of that Surprise army, Casey Fowler, saying
(16:24):
that he was starting to feel bad for Lima and
everybody turned on him and everybody's their whole thing? Is that,
Like BJ's just doing this for clout and fame. I
don't love her motives or the direction she's leaned into now.
But she only has four hundred and forty six thousand
YouTube subscribers between her two main channels, half a million subscribers,
(16:48):
I mean, fuck me, I would love that.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Like, that's not that many though, can the grand scheme? Yeah,
big YouTubers have at least a million, The big YouTube
have at least a million subscribers, right, So the fact
that she has less than half a million, and she's
been sued by Lima like multiple fucking times and Lima's
(17:11):
lost every time. There's no way that she could not
have lost money covering this case. And it's not like
she's gotten hugely famous or even really good recognition other
than from her followers, which, like I said, half a
million is not that fucking many. It's in the grand
scheme of things. She does not have that many supporters
(17:35):
she's not getting super famous off of this. I don't
know how much legal bills are. I don't know how much,
you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I know she had to go fund me for her
legal stuff. I saw that in her one of her
videos when she was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Oh, that's only made, Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, I didn't check him on how much it had made, but.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I feel like lawyers are expensive.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Anyways, Now we are back in Westchester, Pennsylvania. It's July
twenty seventh, twenty three. Lima's guardianship is over, but she's
still close to the fam of course, and you know,
she wants to offer support as Bam is going to
court for assaulting his brother. I screamed again. I fucking
(18:14):
screamed again. She goes, you know, like, we want to
intervene with the court and probably try to get Bam
in like a guardianship. And I was like, that's Lima's
favorite word, dude. And the lack of self awareness as
she said we want to get Bam into a guardianship
(18:34):
because what does she say, because Bam doesn't think that
he's doing anything wrong. Because Lima is the judge and
jury of Bam is free to fuck man, just live
your life.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
He may not make the best choices, that's not everybody
does that, but it's not Lima's job to make sure
that he makes the best choices.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
So Beth, Beth Carris actually is like she questioned a
little bit later, She's like, what's up with that? But
I fucking howled. I was like, shut the fuck up.
You're trying to get Bam into another conservatorship, you psychopath.
So he pleads not guilty to assault and terroristic threats
(19:18):
against his brother, and the judge orders him to do
regular drug and alcohol screenings. And as if this is
noteworthy was released without a guardianship, I feel like that
should never have to be noteworthy of, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, if you're released with one that's different.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh yes, I'm gonna play his Instagram fucking oo. Okay,
see does this not make better content? When I'm like,
down your fucking throat with this shit.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
And it's especially fun because I watched nothing so that
it would be fresh.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Okay, nice, I said, bo uh. So they say three
hours later at Castle Bam, so we're back to the
start of the documentary where Lima's with April and they're
all frantic because BAM's trying to get onto his own
fucking property that you know for some reason his brother
(20:14):
is Lea saying, and he hates his brother. What's that?
I smell? Greedy family trying to fucking take people's shit over.
That's what I smell. Girls say what I mean? Do
you smell that little bit? I smell shit, and I
don't like it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's not a good smell.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I want right now to point out fucking the fact
that when you have substance abuse issues or you have
mental health issues, people just fucking write off what you
say is crazy. And if you fucking listen to what
people are saying, and that's not exactly I'm sorry, but
Amanda rab saying I don't want no girl my age,
(20:54):
video gaming my thoughts, and her and Limar are the
same age, and everybody's like, oh, she's so crazy video
gaming her thought fuck me. Even his supposed fans are like, oh, Bam,
you so crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's like hmmm mmmm mmmmmmm.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay. So I hate that he played music in the
background because it makes it harder to hear what he's saying.
But I want y'all to fucking listen to this and
put aside your notions that he's crazy or fucked up,
or put those assumptions aside to just listen to this human.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Okay, just like you, we're flicking channels only to find
on a twenty four hour countdown on the Curious Case
of Watch Van Marjara Britney Spears my two favorite people.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
However, I'm look confused on who it was really about.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It took called the Curious Case of Lima, but nobody
would have watched. But man if I signed off on that,
they didn't blow my face, I don't remember. Shit. I
was probably higher than Jimmy Crick on fucking passaults and
that treatments that are on eighteen different medications. Yeah, but
after watching it, I'm finally glad that somebody did the
research to expose Lima and her fucking nutty behavior.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You know, the.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Curiosity of whatever taking an autopsy report on Amanda Rat's
death and making people wear this aura helmet unlicensed.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
I put that shit on any drug add it could
go into Caesar from that any well, you see t
rex in your left eye and he's trying to eat
you and on the left eyes and kidning cat licking milk.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
So it's very confusing, but you.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Know, you could be on somebody drugs thinking that shit's
real and going to a Caesar.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Now I can tell you this.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I'm forty five years old. I have not gone into
any Caesars in my lifetime until I met Lima at
the age of forty three, I went into five steezers
twenty minutes a piece, only to wake up eight days
on life support with a fucking tube gum my throat
with COVID and pneumonia.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, okay, yeah, So it.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Doesn't take a science rocket to figure out that that's
not a coincidence, and a lot of.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Question about hers.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
And we're very grateful that that's been said and out
there and we didn't look horrible and everyone knows that
he has a happy ending.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And he's doing great.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I'm just glad that that part of my terrible, terrible
life is over and I'm not dead from it, saved.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
By Earth, Ames or you. And we need Pritty to
call us because you say, I just free Brittany as well.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
People hone in on the fact that instead of saying
a rocket scientist, he says a science rocket.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah. People do that. They get words flipped.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Like hi, Hi, Hi, Hello, is this on? Please?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes you are on?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
He says, I'm in treatment, highest shit on eighteen different medications.
I know for a fact that especially in Florida. And
I talked to my friend in Australia who says, you know,
like they're in detox, Like you don't get fucking meds
unless you're like at risk of dying, which you are
if you're coming down from like I think, alcohol on
(24:00):
heroin I believe are the only withdrawals that can actually
kill you. Don't quote me. I know alcohol for sure.
Withdrawals can kill people. Interesting. So him saying that like
he's high as shit in treatment then doesn't know what's
going on checks the fuck out because they Baker and
Marchman acted him over and over, which basically says you're
(24:20):
too mentally unstable or on substances to function or be
trusted and you need to be locked up, and it
gets like crazy overused in Florida. He says he's never
had a seizure until he met Lima. Any addict could
go into seizure if they have that many medications in
(24:40):
their system, and then they're put into fucking VR. I'm
not a science rocket Okay, Yeah, let's focus on that,
you guys. But I don't know. Fuck me, if like,
I don't know the science, I'd have to look further
into it. But that sounds about fucking right that if
you're on all these different fucking medications. Yeah, and I
(25:03):
know this because I've been fucking high as shit and
detox myself, dog, and especially it's sketchy or treatment places,
people are cheeking drugs, They're fucking doing all this shit
and uh bam didn't want to be sober. I would
not be surprised if he like figured out, you know,
at some point, how to get high in treatment, you know,
or he was fucking high because they were keeping him high. Amanda,
(25:24):
nothing in her autopsy report says anything about a seizure,
and then Lima said that she died from a seizure disorder.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Seizure right, Yeah, that caught my ear when he said
he never had a seizure until he met Lima, and
I was like, ohsh that's what Amanda supposedly died from.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But according to Lima, why would Lima say that? It
makes her look really bad, especially if Amanda did not
die from anything seizure related. Also, can't autopsy and coroners
be paid off.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You would hope not, but I think anything's possible.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Anybody can be paid off. That's why they have cases,
cases or whatever. They both have a leading expert in
fibromyalgia or whatever, but they have highly different opinions, weirdly
because they're getting paid to give a certain testimony. Right again, though,
it's weird to me that she would say that Amanda
had seizure complications if that were not the case, because
(26:18):
it just tells on her. But we know that Amanda
was before Bam, which trips me the fuck out. Remember
that does Amanda had already died under Lima's quote care
when they brought her to save Bam.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I always forget that too. It feels like he's first,
but no, she is. So maybe she said that about
the Caesar disorder because she didn't think about it, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right, God, she's so stupid, dude, Oh my god, she's
listening to her talk is like my numbing because she's
like legitimately dumb.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's hard in the vice and for me it's the vice.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So we're back to the start of the dock. April.
BAM's mom said she gave the gate coat to Bam
so she could get her stuff, and she told Lima like,
oh Bam is coming and ah Bad's coming. Everybody bring
the fuck out. So now we got Lima back on camera.
She says April gave the gatecode to Bam, and she
(27:16):
says she's like, like, April knew that Bam was talking
trash about me on the internet and had assaulted his brother. Basically,
like what a dumb bitch for giving him the gate code.
So she calls the cops and says Bam threatened to
crash through the gate, like okay, so like when do
you expect him to be there? And she's like, oh,
(27:37):
he's already here.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
And this is his own property. Correct, This isn't like okay.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
So it's he's at the hobbit hole literally trying to
get some of his belongings. That's like it. And we
go back to the you know scene of Bam asking
Lima why she's so evil because she has just been
in the court three hours prior, trying to get him
back into a fucking conservatorship.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yes, I like that, I like that, he asks that.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And then Beth questions why Lima would call the cops
if things were peaceful, She says, Remember when Amanda rab
assaulted her dad with a pipe and got arrested, and
you know, Lima stepped in and Amanda was given a choice,
and Lima had legal control of Amanda's treatment. So Lima
no longer has control over Bam. Is she trying to
(28:22):
orchestrate a situation where she can get it back? And
I was like, good question, Beth, And whose side are
you on? Bitch? I mean, I guess technically, if she
is doing good journalism, she shouldn't have a side, but
she's fucking horrible, So fuck you. But yeah, thank you
for asking one reasonable question instead of questioning why is
bej so obsessed with this story? Why is Lima so
(28:44):
obsessed with controlling people's lives?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's the better question?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Uh huh the show. But now we're back on the
you know their uh Limah and BAM's relationship is obviously
beyond repair according to Beth, but Lima's personal journey through
mental health, addiction and guardianships, of course, is far from over.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
No, that's terrifying. That's ominous. Way to leave that on
a high note.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Best, Oh, okay, and now is probably when I definitely
woke up anybody in my house who was not sleeping anymore.
But this is when I audibly like what the fucked again?
Like I can't, I cannot write, I can't right now.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I can't know what happens. Freaking no, okay, take a bath,
you freaking out, man.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Freaking out? Maon no, Like literally, if real stories could
be an acid trip, like this is it?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, this doesn't feel real. It is, but it doesn't
feel it.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Hey, I am I don't like the amount of just
like insane emotion. It's like I can't handle it. Okay,
So May thirteenth, twenty twenty four. It is today, February twentieth,
twenty twenty five. So this is I don't do math.
What nine months ago? I feel like that's rash.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah about me?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, you guys. We're in Long Beach, California.
My next note is I am dying because who do
we see in the car but Dia, you guys. Dia
hasn't been seen in years. Dahlia's only been seen making
very ominous YouTube videos and then on body ham footage
(30:22):
claiming to be sex trafficked. I literally was like, this
is it like I said, it was like going to
be my life's mission to find out if Dio was
alive and where she was, and you know what, like,
I'm still not gonna drop this, Okay, guys, like fuck
you because this footage is like you're just like, damn,
like this does seem weird, but like we know that
this is maybe one of the worst production companies in
(30:44):
history allegedly. I feel like I should fun probably throw
that in investigation discovery, you know what, come the fuck
at me, because I feel like that could only be
like good publicity. Also, what's your name of that thing
for you to take? So it's all the worst, no
really though, just terrible, terrible journalism allegedly in my opinion.
(31:06):
So DIA's in the card, I'm screaming, and the producer
is asking Lima and Dia how they feel, and Lima
says that in May of twenty twenty four, you know,
at this point, Dollia checked herself into a mental health
facility in Long Beach. Okay, oh my god, oh my god,
that's where I was in the mental hospital for twelve days.
(31:27):
Long Beach, go back.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Is she still there undercover?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
And she can fucking tell you as a fact. And
y'all I have mentioned that I was kept there for
twelve days for like very superficial self harm. I'm not
saying it's like not a big deal, you shouldn't do that,
but fuck I was not suicidal on it anyway. This
doctor was absolutely getting kickbacks for having me there. I
don't know how, but I was medically trafficked. Okay hmm
(31:54):
in a far less severe way. I don't know though. Man,
that's pretty crazy to be literally stuck in one under
or the fucking cuckoo's nest twelve days, and when I
wanted to get out, I had to like appeal to
like three fucking people in the hospital to prove to
them that I was not gonna kill myself, was not
(32:15):
a danger to myself for others. And I had to
have my uncle and sister there to tell them that
they would keep an eye on me and that like
I wasn't totally out of my mind. It scared the
shit out of me. I did not have the choice
to leave. It was not up to me.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's scary.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And I can tell you that like a mental hospitals
like one of the worst places for people struggling with
mental health. It's all fluorescent lights all day. There's a
sitting room where there's like one TV and everybody just
like stares at it. I fully was like Jack Nicholson
in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I was like,
(32:52):
you guys, let's play a game. Come on, fuck, we
got approved of them. Were normal, you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And that truly sounds like a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It was like, I'm lucky I didn't get monomized, because
if it was like fifty years ago or I don't know,
probably probably reason you might have. Yeah. So apparently Dolia
checked herself into a mental health facility in Long Beach,
which I just find hard to believe because I don't
think anybody who has any experience in mental institutions would
(33:22):
check themselves into one of those. I don't know. Okay, again, speculation. Fuck,
I don't know the twines Dahlia and Dia. If you're
listening and you can reach out to me, just please,
I want to hear it from your mouth without producers
or lima or your mom around.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I need to hear blink twice if you're okay.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, tsif you the podcast at gmail dot com. So
they say that three weeks into her stay at this place,
she disappeared. Also, though if she was at the place
I was, there's like no way you could get out
of that. So maybe it was a different mental health facility.
I don't fucking know, but I couldn't escape obviously. In prison,
(34:02):
Oh my god, it was so scary. We got fifteen
minutes of outside time of day.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh my.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And they didn't let you smoke cigarettes. Also, it's like, oh,
you're crazy and you're a smoker. Well you can't have that.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Sorry, you're struggling right now. Too bad.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So apparently she breaks out of this place that she
checked herself into, been missing for twelve days, and Lima's like,
Dahlia's really dedicated to working on herself. And once all
of this internet stuff taken down, and she kept reporting
the bodycam footage to YouTube. Oh my god, this is
just dawning on me. This is just dawning on me.
Oh fuck off. Okay, Dahlia wants this footage of her
(34:39):
having a mental breakdown off of the Internet and out
of the public eye so badly because it's scared her
so much for her on privacy and protection that she
repeatedly reported the video to YouTube to get it taken down.
But then weirdly they show that in the documentary that
she's so willingly participated in.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Isn't it weird?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's super weird that she was like, I don't want
it on YouTube, but go ahead and put it in
this documentary.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yes, the streaming service is fine.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Lima's actively saying that Dahlia wants all of this stuff
taken down and like Bjay has exploited her sister's mental
health issues, when that's like literally all of that she's
done forever. So they're walking the streets with posters because
they're like, we can't go to the internet anymore. It would
just convolute everything and a blobbery blah. And they get
a call from someone that they found Dahlia by the
(35:37):
library in full psychosis. And this is where I'm just
like fuck okay, but also editing, go fuck yourself, okay, okay,
let's stay okay. She's in a bathroom stall freaking out.
She says, get the fuck away from me, you crazy lady.
I don't know who's talking to. Who's she talking to?
Lima says that she kept saying that's Amanda rab And
(35:59):
repeating stuff from BJ's videos and I was like, yeah, right,
But she does say hi Amanda to somebody and then
in the fucking ambulance, which I guess this is just
all fine footage to be showing as well. I guess
Dollia is just like she wasn't having a mental breakdown.
In the body cam footage. She was in distress, pretty
coherently talking about Listen. She's like, oh my mom lives
(36:22):
to like kill me and resurrect me, and that sounds crazy.
But the thing is, remember that VR is very involved
in all of this, So this shit like sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But isn't really when you think about it.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, you know. So she's in the ambulance and she says, Liama,
you're the coolest, and like it is. It's jarring. It's
heartbreaking to watch because she is obviously not in her
right mind. We hear Dia for like a couple minutes.
The way that she's speaking is very kind of like
(36:54):
I don't know, like kind of like short and anxious,
like hope we can find her. It makes her seem unstable, okay,
And that's the thing. I do believe that the twins
have severe mental health issues, and I also think that
those have probably been exploited insanely by her sister, Oh yeah,
(37:16):
and or mom and or I don't know who else.
So it's real fucking easy to not put any of
it on Lima or anybody and just be like, well,
they're just crazy. Look at how crazy they are, and
we're just trying to take care of them. Yeah. So
Beth says that, you know, she wants to believe that
both of them, Lima and Bja had good intentions because
(37:39):
they both have very personal connections with people that they
love struggling with mental health and addiction. BJ's dad died
of a meth overdose, and that's something she's spoken a
lot about on her channel and something that actually just
really changed my mind about how I thought about this shit,
because she says, I would have loved if my dad
didn't fucking die alone of OD, But there's nothing that
(38:01):
I or anybody else could have stopped him from doing that.
And I don't believe that he should have forcibly been
incarcerated to appease us, right, I think that you should,
like dog fucking doctor Kavorkian, like assisted suicide whatever better
be legal. If I get to any point where I
start to lose my mind, because if I am like
(38:22):
a vegetable in any way mine body, I'm out. Dude.
It's not up to other fucking people how you live
and die unless you're like actively harming people physically or
like whatever mentally. You know, worrying your family doesn't count. Sorry,
it sucks. It sucks. But also, my parents are probably
(38:46):
like gonna fucking there's a good chance that like they
will have a fate of like dying alone on the streets,
and I really really fucking wish that wasn't the case.
But at the end of the day, like I've tried
to do what I could, nothing short of trying to
put them under my fucking control so that I could
(39:10):
sleep better at night, knowing what that my mom's fucking
locked in an institution, And yeah, hot take you know
you guys, I don't know, but that's me. She said
they were both being sketchy. I don't think that was
her words verbatim, but like they were both promoting themselves
heavily on the internet, which we know can be a
very dangerous place. And I kind of love that also
(39:31):
because it ties back into what I was saying earlier,
is that like there's a lot of shit going on
on the Internet that is shaping the real world, and
it can be a very dangerous place. And that's like
what That's all I want to talk about now, because
I'm like, this is fucking crazy, all of it. Like
what the fuck? She says? It seems that Bjay's focus
has shifted from a desire to help the vulnerable to
(39:54):
serving self interests, again, something I agree with. Then they
end with Dahlia continues to struggle with mental health and addiction.
Ura the company is fucking dead. Lima's libel suit against
Beja is pending. That's not true anymore. Any suits that
Lima has tried to bring against Bej She's lost. Bam
(40:15):
pled guilty to assaulting his brother and then was arrested
for violating his probation. The end.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
What a way to end.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
So I guess the moral of this story is that
everyone is terrible, but Lima is the biggest victim. Even
though like she's sketched, she's still like the most sympathetic
character in Beth Size or the Eyes of Investigation Discovery,
which makes you question a lot, say you, guys, that
was the curious case of biomarch era and yeah, that's
(40:46):
just the tip.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Just the tip, just for a second.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
But I also did a two part episode with Kim
Davis from Slaycation about the opioid epidemic and the Florida
Shuffle because Bam talks a lot about the Florida Shuffle
because that's what Leah got him caught up in for
like a year or something. And it all just fucking
webs together, just crazy. And yeah, right now it's kind
(41:09):
of Kristen and I trying to solve this mystery. So
it's gonna this is a long term ride we're on
and it won't become like the whole show, So we
will be focusing on other cases and producing other content
in the meantime because Lima, Amanda, Bam, the Twins, etc.
(41:29):
It's a marathon, it's not a sprint. But I think
we've laid a pretty good foundation at this point. Yes,
that also brings me back around to Investigation Discovery and
the curious case of Natalia Grace. So I pulled our
patrons and I said, step y'all, you're my favorite people,
(41:52):
and that's true. I love y'all. Should I finish what
I started? Because last year I covered all six episodes
of the Serious Case of Natalia Grace again Beth Carris
id just allegedly, in my opinion, just awful, awful journalism.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Piece of garbage.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
But I have to say one of the best performances
of my life was do you remember the Michael reenactment?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I did, I did, I tried, I tried. It was great.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Fuck, it was so good. Oscar Jinks, Oh, oh my god,
you owe me a coke, cocaine. You guys should just
help up coke. I didn't see that, but I did.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
That's how I get my caffeine.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
So I said. The last season just came out because
they milked the fuck out of that, dude. I don't know.
I think it was a total of like eighteen episodes
or some bullshit, because I didn't cover the first season
because I had already covered Natalia. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You might have talked about the season as a whole,
but I don't remember there being like an episode for
every episode, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I can't, I can't, I can't. But they literally made
the story into three season, just dragging it the fuck out. Yeah, geez,
all the while putting a lot of speculation on Natalia
and here's the thing. I don't know Natalia. There's some
things that I find questionable and you know, a little
(43:16):
bit strange. Also, regardless of all of that, it's obvious
that the Barnetts are terrible people and that Natalia was
a dependent. Even if she wasn't a child, which I
believe she was, she had a form of Dwarfism that
made it basically impossible to function as an adult doing
(43:38):
everything on her own because she couldn't move in certain
ways or reach certain things and stuff. Right, So I
pulled the patrons. Two out of three said finish it up.
So I said, fuck it, let's do it. And actually,
I'm really glad that I decided that because my decision
was I got a nail in the coffin yesterday, I
(44:00):
got a notification. No, it just came up as a
preview on YouTube. So Hulu has a drama coming out
next month called Good American Family about this fucking case. Bitch.
When I fucking tell you that this is gonna be
such a goddamn hack job on Natalia, I can't stress
(44:23):
that enough. You can tell in the previews that the
Barnetts are portrayed as caring and like normal which they're not.
Holy shit. Okay, So the preview went up yesterday and
when I saw the preview, they had announced the show
five hours ago. Today, one day later, the preview has
two point one million views on YouTube. Oh snap, as
(44:44):
if Natalia's life has not already been ruined enough by
all of the trauma that she's experienced and then Investigation
Discovery exploiting her entire fucking life. And I'm going to guess,
I don't know, this is just a guess. I'm again
that idea is gonna leave us on a cliffhanger at
the end of the series finale. Is she an evil
(45:06):
fucking dwarf like the movie Orphan or not? And it's like, no,
that's how they left the last season. Then I can
only assume they're gonna do that again. So yeah, I
have a problem with true crime dramas. Some of them
are produced ethically. A Friend of the Family is a
really good example, because Jane Broberg and her mom were
(45:28):
involved in the production. Do I still watch some of them? Yeah,
you guys, I've said that before. We try to do
our best with the media that we consume, but you.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Know, fuck, sometimes you just have to see it.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Then I'm gonna have to watch this though, so that
I can fucking critique it on the show, because this
looks insane to me. Dude, Oh my god, And I
don't know. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
I can't breathe it's so much.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
But see some hot garbage.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
There's like a tiny part of the preview that's like,
looks like it's questioning the Barnetts, but it's I don't know.
You're welcome, you, guys. I'm watching the fucking garbage for you,
and I'm taking it out because Hulu nor ID fuck them.
They don't need your views. Let me do it for you.
(46:20):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I love you, and you get wonderful commentary. That's all
I have for today.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
I mean, as if that wasn't enough, but Jesus, but
we did it. Fucking Christ. I'm out of words.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
So that was reel as fun and real fucked up.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
And we'll see you next time for who the fuck
does I don't I don't know right on you guys,
but it's gonna be a it's gonna be a wild ride.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
It's gonna be fun, you big guy motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
By up so fucked up. It's just
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