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February 13, 2025 63 mins
In this episode Ash and Kristen dive into the cringe-worthy, and often kinda creepy af, world of TikTok FuckBois. From thirst traps to weird skits and personas, the gals tackle trends like mewing, "horny chefs", and bad advice from "dating coaches"—while touching on the unsettling rise of known human trafficker Andrew Tate.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So his message says, all your picks are headshots. You
aren't a secret fatty, are you?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
That is so playful and cute.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's adorable, it would warm my heart.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Great way to break that.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
He claims it may sound crude, but it's also fairly amusing,
and it generally gets a good reaction. And he claims
that the response he gets is, oh geez, that's a
question like what. I'm sorry what that is.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
So fucked up.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's fucked up, so fucked up.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It is just so damn fuck that's fucked up.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Shooby doo by doop pup choopy doop bu capa doo
doo doo. Hey, Hey, everybody, welcome back to That's So
Fucked Up, a podcast about things that.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Make you so that's so fucked up up. I'm your host,
Ashley Love Richards, and I am today once again joined
by one of our lovely research assistants, Mss Kristen. I
forgot are we doing your full name?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Or we did on Mary Bell?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, but miss Krista Jones, Hey, what's up. I'm just
a little bit worried for Kristen's safety because you know
we're covering Amanda rab and all that. If y'all haven't
listened to that episode yet, you got to get on it.
And we are going to be diving into all that
much deeper, like we said in that episode. And if

(01:41):
you have HBO or MAX or ID or fucking whatever,
then you might have seen that. The final season of
The Curious Case of Natalia Grace, which if y'all were
listening last year, I covered in January and February, and uh,
what a fucking mess that show is. ID makes awful documentaries,

(02:03):
if you can even call them that, but I also
might have to cover that one, because like we've come
this far, you know. And I was just talking to
Chante the other day, who covered that with me last year,
and we were saying, we should probably, you know, wrap
it up, regardless of the show kind of sucks or not.
And then they made a spin off, The Curious Case

(02:25):
of It's a six part docu series and it has
six different episodes about I don't know, strange crime cases
or whatever. And the first episode was the Curious Case
of Bam Margera. And I'm going to be doing a
binge or bust on that. If you're new to the show,
I haven't done one of those in a long ass time.

(02:46):
But it's where I watch a documentary and then I
break it down for y'all so you don't have to
watch the documentary if I'm like it's not worth your time,
which this won't be because I can already tell there's
there's lies and manipulation because it's fucking id. But I
want to watch it and then break it down to
Kristen and then we'll point out all the things out

(03:08):
they're getting wrong and lying about. But today we were
kind of between two subjects. We were looking at what's
come out recently and there was, you know, a lot
of torture in December with mccamee Manor and then we
had the Menanda's brothers and then Mary Bell and Elise

(03:30):
Pauller and uh, it's just been a lot of torture
and murder and like torturous murder and murderous torture. Yeah,
we just we thought, hey, let's lighten things up a
little bit today. So we were between telling you guys
about just a sampling of TikTok fuck Boys or the

(03:51):
King of fuck Boys Andrew Tait. But Andrew Tate's like
a sex trafficker and a really terrible person. So we
thought today maybe we'd go a little bit and just
tell you about some TikTok fuck boys.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
The cringiest of cringey.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, and you know, if y'all weren't lestening last year,
I just like discovered the Internet. I hadn't gone on
it much or I don't know. I don't go on TikTok.
I still don't. I just watch YouTube videos about TikTok
and Hello TikTok. It was really funny. People were like, oh,
it got banned, and I was like, yeah, I live

(04:26):
under a rock, Like I didn't know that it was
gonna be like, I had no idea. But it was
only banned for what like three days.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
No, it wasn't even a day. It was probably I
don't know, twelve to sixteen hours.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Maybe good thing President Trump saved the day though.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
When I opened it up, like it was supposed to
be banned on I don't know whatever day, And like
the night before I saw people were saying it was
already shut down. So I opened it up and it
wouldn't nothing would load, and it was like it's not
available in the United States. And so the next day
I was I think I was on thread and people
were like, TikTok's back, and so I opened it up

(05:03):
and the first message that pops up, it's like, thanks
to President Trump, we blah blah blah, TikTok is back.
And I was like, wait, what he was advocating for
a TikTok man four years ago.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
So I don't know, dude. I feel like that just
means that Trump's got something on somebody at fucking TikTokers.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Something I don't know. I like, I don't I don't
quite get it. But I was just like, hey, it's
back my time, oysters back.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I am all for not controlling our access to media,
including social media, et cetera. And I think that TikTok
represents the worst of society.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It does. And when I was researching this, because man,
we did the research a while ago on it, and
I only have had I've had a TikTok for less
than a year. My husband goes and does a boys
weekend in February and in August every year, and so
last when he was gone in February, I was like,
what am I going to do with myself? So I
downloaded TikTok because I was.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Like I gave in okay, like, oh, that will waste
a fuck ton of my time, and it did, and I've.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Like curated it very carefully, so it's like I see
great things. I love the things that I see. Yeah,
So when I went to research this, I was like,
oh god, please don't change my algorithm. I don't want
to watch these on purpose.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, So I downloaded TikTok and it just served me
like a couple of random videos and I was like,
oh my god, what the fuck? Why is there like
twelve year olds dancing like strippers? And then it was like, oh,
you like twelve year old to dance like strippers? And
then I was like, this is so stressful. It's making
so many assumptions about me so quickly that I was like,

(06:47):
I feel like there's so much pressure on me to
know exactly what the fuck I want to see here
that like, I find social media stressful already and that
kind of pressure cooker viire.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, Like I went in knowing, Okay, I'm going to
search for these things, and then like it kind of
spiraled from there, and so I've made sure to find
to find some good stuff, like this one lady I
follow she is. I believe she lives in Scotland and
she's written a couple of books and she's a medical doctor.
But she's written them about the monarchs over like a

(07:20):
thousand years or something. It's like ways that they've died
and it's pretty interesting. But she will from memory trace
back different royal family members through different lineages and it
is fascinating. And she just has this very soothing demeanor
and voice. And I love her very much. And her
name is Susie Edge. I'm not joking. Go check her

(07:41):
out and watch her all day.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
That doesn't sound sexual at all, are you kidding? Well?
Why you know?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
She's fascinating, She's she's great, just saying I know, but
I'm like, please TikTok falk boys, don't take away my
nice British lady.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I would hope that you didn't use your main account
to do this research.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
No, I clicked on links and like, mad, sure it
wasn't logged in because it'll bring up on your browser.
And then no, you can't have that. I can't be
having these creepers pop up like I want them in
my feed.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's a lot. So we decided to, uh yeah, to
do like a sampling of some of the best of.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Or worst worse.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know, you know how you want, however you
want to phrase that of the TikTok fuck boys, and
we just thought that it would be kind of fun
to like go over their content so that we are
listen y'all. If you got any of these horny chefs
on your timeline, power to you. Okay, and you're like,
what horny chefs? Probably most of you, but probably most

(08:45):
of you don't. It's not called a timeline either, is
it before you page or whatever? I don't feed. What
the fuck's the timeline?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Who's that Facebook?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
It was? I don't even go on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I don't know if they still call it your timeline anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Okay, that's what.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It was at one point.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, you probably don't have these dudes coming up on
your feed. I'm guessing if you do, get it, girl, whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Do your thing. We're not here now.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
You should hear about them? Yeah? So should we? Ah?
Should we get into this? I don't know why I.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Said it like that, Probably because you know it's a
goofy episode. Balls.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, it's a little bit more fun. We've been doing
some intense, crazy shit, kind of content.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
And some of my notes I commented on how cringy
this was, so that was fun to add a little
commentary in there.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's just it's my roommate was the other day he
was like, I'm glad that you're seem to be having
so much fun with your videos, because like, I'll just
be in here fucking watching this shit cracking up, but
also with like a crazy cringe face because I'm so embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
For its secondhand embarrassment, the uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah. Yeah, but it's fun. It's a good time.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
It is. We're about to have a lot of fun.
So let's get into it, Alrighty. So, the first guy
that we're going to talk about, I don't know his
real name. He used to post under an account. Do
we want to name the accounts?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah? Okay, but I guess we're gonna say we don't
like these guys, but we also don't want you going
and leaving hateful shit on their social media because we
told you about them being creepy.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
It's more that you need to be aware that they
are out there.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, do you even need to like, I don't know,
it's just kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
It is kind of fun, but like as at Hey, Well, there.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Are some like spy cam quote pick up artists that
I'll tell you about that are definitely fucking creepers that
you should be aware of. Listen, if you see anybody
with these fucking like ray bands that are a little
bit too like big or something, and I don't know,
you know, and they're being weird, there might be a
pickup artist, which is hilarious to call them that because

(11:08):
they're not techically not picking anybody up. Before we get
into the episode, we wanted to define what a fuck
boy is. Yes, in case anybody's listening, who's like ladies
I'm forty five, or even ladies I'm twenty five. I'm

(11:29):
not in the know, so I'm not going to assume
you all are. So. According to urbandictionary dot com, a
fuck boy is a guy who will tell a girl
anything to get them to hook up with them, A
complete jerk who flirts with multiple girls at a time
and makes them all believe they're individually special. They tell
a girl they like them and act like they're and

(11:51):
love so they can get something out of it, like pictures,
hooking up, sex, etc. Someone who should not be trusted
and is the reason for a lot of people's trust issues.
Don't fuck with a fuck boy. And then we have
a fun little example. Friend one. Yo, Hey, the's my name.

(12:12):
He's Ashley still with James, friend too. Nah, didn't you hear?
He told her he loved her? And then asked another
girl out, Friend one, what a fuck boy?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay, when you said you wanted to define fuck boy,
I wasn't aware that there was an actual definition. Like
I thought you had something in mind that that was
really good.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Uh yeah, no, I mean I knew but obvious, like right,
I heard about you described it better on Urban Dictionary,
and y'all. I'd like to say that I'm smarter than
the fuck boys, that I've outsmarted them. They're good, Okay,
I've gotten tricked. Okay, I've got tricked a few times. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, they're smooth. That's what they do.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
They are smooth operators.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
You don't realize it till it's too late. Sometimes you don't.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And we'll see, you'll see with all these TikTok fuck boys,
they're catching the ladies too, virtually.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
So let's go.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Let's talk about this guy, all right.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
So the first guy, we have his first account because
I guess what. His first one I got shut down
was called at I'm not she love with two ease.
That doesn't make any sense, but that's what it was called.
He would post videos always complaining about how hard it
was to find a single girl because either they're not
looking for anything serious, they are a lesbian, or they're thirteen.

(13:35):
Those were the only options. Those were the only options
of why he couldn't find a girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I fucking know, because every time I meet a guy
that I think, Okay, hey, this is hopeful, he turns
out to be gay or like thirteen fourteen or a
fuck boy.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Every time, this first account posted a lot of quote
thirst trap videos with women like holding belts, like he'd
have a belt on and then he would like take
it off and you know wrap his hands or like
a woman's hands up like he was, you know, tying
her up. Or sometimes he would pretend you're gonna whip

(14:16):
the camera to make it you know, like a little.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And uh, what's a thirst trap? Kristen?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I feel like what we would define a thirst trap
is gonna be way different from what a cringey TikTok
boy is gonna define as a thirst trap. You know,
thirst traps the really attractive men. You know, you see
Henry Cavill with his shirt off, and you're like.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Okay, ladies can be thirst traps too.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yes, of course.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
It's apparently like a you know, a social media post
that's meant to get the thirsty girls and gals over
to your page, like drooling.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yes, He's like, if I super hot and if I
have my shirt off, all these ladies are gonna le
like my posts. M hmmmm hmm.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
And they did, Yeah, they did, they did.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And the video that led to his account being suspended.
He posted a video of himself reacting to different age
girls with audio over it that was like, hey have
a cupcake. I don't. It was stupid, but so the
first two girls are labeled as twenty five and eighteen,
uh huh, which are cool, and then the third like

(15:24):
it comes up on the screen and says when she's thirteen,
and then he rolls his tongue all over like inside
of his mouth and licks his lips.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Ew.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
It's so cringey, And that led to his account being suspended.
So of course he just made another one.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
So oh, this is a hold on. He's like, these
are girls that I want to fuck or whatever, and
he's like giving a cupcake. That's the audio to these
girls and he's like, this one's eighteen, this one's twenty five,
and this one is thirteen, and he's like a grown man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
In the Chad Chad video, they had like a screen
recording of it, and it looks like he's basically disgusted
that the first two are twenty five and eighteen, and
so it's like a third one. It's like okay, like
oh cool, that's how it comes across.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh gross.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
And this is like the first guy that I was
researching and I was like, oh god.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I was like, you have fun, Kristin. I've been watching
these videos for like weeks. Yeah, let's discuss and go.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
So, of course this account gets suspended because he's a
disgusting pervert. So he just creates another one, and this
one is called Between Heaven and Dream, which that name
alone is super cringey.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah. Yeah, did you run out of space for the
s ME is.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Russian, you guys, So that might be part of it.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I don't think English is his first language. Yeah, And
I'm not saying that because of making assumptions, but it's
because the way that he types is not Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Little, uh, it's a lot. So he posts these videos
where it's like he's at a party or something and
he is gonna he's gonna drag a girl into the bathroom,
you know, like because they're gonna hook up at the party,
and he like puts her up on the sink and
then text pops up on the video and it says,
I don't want your dirty talk because I'm only sixteen,

(17:16):
and then he just keeps going and he's lip syncing
to this song called sixteen. I don't know, I've never
heard of this song ever.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
But basically, you guys, this should be like this should
this should be a lot like video.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yes, we need a video with this because yeah, this
dude's basically like, hey, let's hook up at this party.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
He's legit a predator.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yes, it's very very predatorian.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Comments from the women on these videos are like I'll
be fucking sixteen any day. Like they're all just like okay,
sorry to like be so on the nows. But the
comments are thirsty, thirsty as fuck.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Oh god, he does the ringiest things, guys. He posts
videos where he's just laying down, just chilling and Uh,
he's like flicking his tongue out over and over like
he's a snake or something, you know, alluding to other things. Yeah,
and then he uses his fingers to show a way
that will pleasure her the most.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Which, by the way, I just have to say the
other day I was talking to my friend who's a lesbian,
and I was like, doesn't this gift look like somebody's
fingering the G spot? And she started laughing so much
because she was like, oh my god, you don't finger
a G spot. And I was like, Okay, you know what.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
We don't know that.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't know anatomy. We don't need to get technical here,
but uh yeah, apparently you like you stroke it. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
So this dude is like on TikTok being like, hey,
if you hook up with me, look what I can
do for you, which maybe this works on people, but
like on me, I'd be like swipe past. Nope, not
for me.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I feel like he's a serial killer.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh my god, Like I could see this dude's house.
I could see this, Yes, And in the videos.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
He like sometimes is like he actually has women, right, yes.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And some of the videos he does that was a
lot of the first account, and then this second account
is more himself, which somehow makes it sadder.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I think.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
He does in public walk up to different couples who
maybe like are walking holding hands or something, and he
air humps in front of them, like thrusting his hips
because he's trying to teach the guy what to do,
because apparently he needs help unsolicited.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Help, dude? Does he also sometimes wear a creepy outfit
when he does that, because you know he has that
like nerd persona.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yes, he definitely has different characters that he's doing.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, it's does he go out in public in the
nerd persona I believe?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Let me get down to that.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes, okay, okay, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's down a little brother. He also posts
about having sex on your period and talks about how
you should quote take a dive in the red Sea.
So there's that.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
No comment.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, that's kind of a I don't know where to
go from there, no comment, But like I said, the
second account has led to him doing some just wild
shit shit that I don't know if he's expecting to
turn people on with it, but it is the opposite
of sexual in any way that I can think of.
He now does videos where he fingers food. Yeah, uh huh, it's.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
The worst kind of food.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, you know, on American Pie it was funny, it
was a joke. It was stupid.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
And if he's doing this pie very seriously, he's not
fucking around here, folks. This is with raw shit chicken, rack,
raw chicken, raw egg, mayo.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Look, Mayo has a time and a place and it
is not with raw chicken in TikTok videos.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Okay, raw chicken has a very limited time and place
and that's from buying it to cooking it, nothing in between. Yeah,
salmonella doesn't turn me on. It's not sexy because doesn't
he like finger the raw chicken and then lick his
fingers he does.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, I don't know how he's not getting sick. So
basically he gets a whole chicken, okay, because you can
get a whole one at the store. He mixes up
this I don't know, sauce concoction with mayo. It looks
like mayo. I'm assuming mayo is in it. And then
there's other stuff that he puts in because it's not
just straight mayo. And then he proceeds to stick his

(21:47):
fingers inside the raw chicken, you know, because sometimes you
do that to like stuff a chicken or turkey when
you're cooking it. But this is different.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't think he was preparing a meal.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
No, And then he takes because he's got a hold chicken,
so the wings are on it, and then the drumsticks
are on it. He will take hair ties and will
band the drumsticks together and the wings. So if you
wanted to be compared to a raw chicken, this is
your guy.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Hold on, are you just saying he does like BDSM
with the raw chicken.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
He does. He does BDSM with the raw chicken. Binding
the legs is a thing, not with a hair tie.
I like those in my hair, not my chicken. They
make like twine for that. But you don't have to
do anything with the wings when you cook a chicken
hole they can just hang out. And actually, in the
old account, he used to use hair ties and band
up women. So because he got the old account, the

(22:38):
hairties he does, and because he got that one suspended,
he's likened women to raw chicken.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I can't find, dude.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Has he gotten suspended? Has he is he gone.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Okay, so we made these notes, I don't know, literally
almost a year ago.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh wow, it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
As y'all know, I've been off the rails for like
a hot minute. You know. We're back and forth. We're here,
We're there, you guys. Oh bitch, did you go look
at anything from recent.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Oh I have not. Okay, I'm afraid to he he's
back to she Love It's she Love It.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
With like thirteen e's or something. Johnny Depp is his
profile picture because he loves to compare himself to how
much he looks like Johnny Depp.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yes, he now has.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Two point one million followers, and it looks like he's
doing a lot of the geeky character. Y'all. He does
this really like creepy nerd character.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
And not sexy nerd. Creepy nerd you got Please don't
follow this.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Guy, listen, don't go leave him hate. That's not our point.
We are gonna put the link to his TikTok in
the show notes though, because you need to go look
at this, you need to see it. Share the face
that I'm experiencing right now, which is just pure rage
and cringe and like I'm like, really uncomfortable. Yeah, I'm bewildered.

(24:07):
He is kind of hot, fucking pisses me off. He's
a good looking dude, you guys.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Here's the thing. Okay, all this shit is weird, all right,
it is.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's so weird.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
We can all agree on that. But I think possibly
the most egregious thing that he does is when he
pulls his fingers out of the chicken raw chicken, yeah,
and then proceeds to lick them in what I think
he believes is a seductive manner. You don't lick raw chicken.

(24:39):
He's begging for food poisoning.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Please don't lick raw chicken, you guys.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
And guess what. He also makes videos where he whisks
raw eggs with his fingers, which are not whisks their fingers,
and then he licks them again.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I don't think raw egg is as dangerous. I think
a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Do that for people for protein.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
And I've eaten real cookie dough ever since I was
a small child, and I'm okay, however.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Okay, Also, you just oh, he has a lot of
new videos about mewing, and if you guys don't know
what mewing is, you need to go listen to. I'll
repost that episode because that shit was good. So, you guys,
last year when I was getting really overwhelmed, I was like,
you know what I'll do instead of chill, I'm gonna
start like eight new segments. And then I didn't do

(25:27):
any of it, but I did an episode called looks
Maxing into the Manosphere, which was actually like really good shit,
you guys, and I did touch on Andrew Tait and
looks Maxing. It's basically what women have been doing forever.
It's just guys, like, you know, doing basic hygiene and

(25:47):
taking care of themselves and stuff, but it does get
taken to the snarly extreme and basically mewing is where
people are dudes mostly. I guess women can do it too,
but it's like mostly the thing that in cells do
in cells, involuntary celibates if.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
You're like, who what?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
But anyways, he has a lot of how to videos
on mewing, which is making your jawline more defined because chads,
who are like the ultimate good looking dudes, they always
have really defined jawlines.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
So like, I remember listening to that episode and I
was like, what the fuck is this? It was like
I needed to write everything down. I'm like, I don't
understand this. This is so weird.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
This guy, dude, he has so many mewing videos. Mewing
is how you get the jaw line pop in. You guys,
this man makes so much content.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
He probably nothing else to do. It's not like he.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Has a real girl, a million followers. He probably makes
a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
He probably does.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's not cool, man, it's not. I am out here
hustling and struggling. Hey, patreon dot com slash tsf you
fuck dude. He's eating an oreo with milk in this thumbnail,
and I really want oreos. Okay, I gotta stop looking
because I will just keep scrolling. And this is why

(27:11):
I thank god I don't have a TikTok and I
only watch the ticking and the talking on the YouTube's
because I just I could get sucked in.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, it's easy too. Okay, he does the egg thing,
and you know, then he shows the camera his fingers.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I didn't take my add or all today. Ps. We
maybe I'll.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Over the place.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
That's fine in case anybody's like, wow, it's.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
So But he's like pulling his fingers apart because there's
egg all over them. And I think he thinks that
that is also sexual. It's not.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's supposed to look like wet wetness.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, I think so. I think that's what he's equating
it to. Then he does just weird shit, like pouring
some sugar on his fingers in his hands and he
just slicks it off. At least that won't kill you.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Possibly I do that sometimes in the middle of the night.
I just don't turn on my camera.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I love a little brown sugar. When I'm cooking
with it, It's like, oh, this is so good, but
I'm not pouring it all over the place.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Pus up, sugar up when you need more love. Oh,
I don't think we had gotten a song in yet.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
We have, but now we have. He also while he cooks,
and you know what, I was just so like cringing
at these video watching these videos that I didn't pay
attention he was cooking. No idea could be nothing, could
be stupid shit.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I don't know, by the way, Just yeah, like f YI,
there is a whole horny chef epidemic on TikTok. There
there's a whole horny chef epidemic. There's all these guys
who under the guys. There's all these dudes who under
the guys of preparing meals, and you know what, some

(28:53):
of them are Actually they're talented chefs at the end,
they're coming out with some good looking and then some
of them are making like very subpar, basic shit. But
the common denominator between all these guys. And that's why,
you know, we wanted to talk about this guy first

(29:14):
because I think he was kind of like one of
the og TikTok fuck boy creeps, and he was doing
a lot of this horny food stuff. It's a lot
of fingering of the.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Food I've seen like say slapping food or like flaplapping mood,
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, And a lot of times they're combining this like
fifty shades of gray element where it's like, oh no,
I'm gonna fucking tighten my belt and pull up the
sleeves and unbuttoned my shirt and I'm gonna make this thing.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
And I feel like, if you're a real chef, you
can get away with this kind of thing because you're
making real food and good shit. Okay, You're not just
whisking together some eggs with your finger or just.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Making fucking like pasta, but they're like fingering like watery
fruit like coconuts and watermelon, trying to get the fruit
to squirt.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
You know, which is gross.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
And the girls are like, make me you a coconut.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Like, yeah, it's good stuff, It's good.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
This dude is air humping while he's cooking on the stove. Yeah,
that's about the extent of his sexual prowess, I think.
And at the time that I made these notes, so
this might be a little different now that it's been
a while. But he went from creating these videos on
how hard it is to find someone, and he started
kind of leaning into the being single and lonely, posting

(30:41):
videos where he's eating alone in a restaurant drinking wine
and he's just looks so sad and pathetic. Okay, and
I'm like, I don't mind eating alone in a restaurant.
I'll bring a book.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
It'll be fine. This is also a genre, the super
sad lonely guy genre. There's one dude I was sending
you his videos while I was researching. He just makes
like sadness porn. His videos are just like when you're
the only guy at the party who pretends to be
happy but inside, you're fucking dying. And then the next

(31:15):
video is like, don't look in the mirror. He's looking
in the mirror and he's like, you're a piece of shit.
Why would you say that? No, you're not, Yes, you are,
you fucking piece of guard. And it's just like sad,
lonely porn, but like, people are into it.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I really wish we had a camera on your face
at that moment because he did his conversation with himself
in the mirror. It was so funny and it's so sad,
but people.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Are so into it. I don't know, you, guys. TikTok
fucking trips.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Man, it's a weird place, guys.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
It's weird, Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
So here we're gonna get to his nerd character. He
definitely posts lots of lie. He goes live a lot
on TikTok. Or he was with the caption looking for girlfriend.
That was it he and then he would go live
I don't know, white white, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
I don't know, Like is he trying to catch thirteen
year olds on the TikTok?

Speaker 1 (32:08):
So he does this elevator trend where he goes into
an elevator, as I guess himself ultimate fuck boy. And
then he comes out as another character, so like he's
Clark Kenning it, except Superman's way better at this and
also not gross.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, this one character, he like grunches up his shoulders
and then he like makes a stupid face, and he
has glasses and he makes his hair stick up like
Dennis the Menace or whatever, and he'll wear like suspenders
and just make oh god, he makes such ugly faces
or just plunge him.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
He pretends to have a double chin.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Oh that too. That too.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
He'll wear a flannel button up and sweatpants, so you know,
they don't go together. And then he puts this giant
stain on the crotch like he peed like he peede,
or maybe he spilled water or god forbid it. You know,
jis so I'm not sure what it's supposed to be.
I guess pee, but also why do I have to

(33:07):
think about that? So he goes in and then he
comes out of the elevator transformed into a suit like
with you know, one of those pinstripe kind of suit
gangster type suits with a fedora and a toothpick. And
I'm not joking in my notes in parentheses, I wrote,

(33:29):
I'm sorry, but what the actual fuck?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Like, is it Halloween in ninety nine? Yeah, because he's
not like the pin stripe gangster suit from the thirties
and the Fedora he's not being like funny.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, it very much reminds me of lou Bega, you know,
Mamo number five, like that oh.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Number five two five.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
To the boys say they want some gin juice. Oh
my god, I'm embarrassed at the amount of that song
that I know.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
No I could keep going, so yeah, oh I could too.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's been ages. So he transforms into this I don't
know what he describes as retro clothing. I don't know
if we want to go with that, but that's what
he describes it as. And when the elevator doors open,
he'll be like leaned up against the door and he's
like pretending to read a newspaper, and he just says
that he enjoys that type of clothing more than today's.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Clothing, yays, I can't, I cannot.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
If you can't with that, wait till you hear what
he does next with the suit, because he then will
post videos of himself in this Fedora suit toothpick act
and we'll have a voiceover that says, this is a
work of art, and then it like switches to a
random photo of modern clothing like regular people in regular outfits,

(34:55):
and his voiceover will say, this is bullshit. I almost
didn't get through that.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh my god. That's when I wake up in the
morning and say to myself in the mirror every day,
this is a work of art, and then I scroll
through social media real quick, this is fucking bullshit.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
So he does all of these nerd care like the
nerd character transformation into the fancy guy, and he'll act nerdy.
It's not even just going in and out of the elevator.
Sometimes he'll like be around people, he'll like act nerdy, like,
I don't know, you can tell that it's an act.
You can tell that it's not just how someone is.

(35:36):
And he'll be out in public and then he'll transform
into this suit with his care slicked back, and I
don't know, I don't know, I don't know, guys.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
The thing is, though, it's like people in the comments
aren't like making fun of him. They're like, oh they aren't, daddy,
here's my phone number, putting their real phone numbers and
jam me that yeah, yeah, no, like the videos are
you know, they're supposed to be thirst traps and they
make us embarrassed, but they make the other girls, the

(36:06):
book talk girlies.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah they're wild. I post book talk videos, but ones,
oh my god.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
You know then that's a wild community. Dude.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
It is a wild community. And I don't I'm horrible
at making TikTok.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
They love steamy sex stuff on bus.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Spicy, the spicy romance, You're romantic book talk.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I think they love this guy. They especially love like
a well, they really love an anonymous guy, like a.
The biker Biker Talk Gang came from the book Talk
Girlies and they were about it because it's like all
these dudes and helmets, so they're like mysterious and they're
like the talk.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Because I frequent book talk, I have seen videos of
these different men and women do it where they dress
up as the different characters from these popular books.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Fifty Shades of Gray is one of the popular ones.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I haven't seen that one because I'm I'm mainly in
like the fantasy type romanticy.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah you are you fucking free? Kristen just came out
on the show or her cank.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
His book talk it's fine, I'm cool with it.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Get a girl. So I've heard, and I wasn't part
of the wat pad culture. I don't know if it
was before or after me, but I've heard that like
a lot of book talk fiction and that kind of
stuff is just what Pad revamped.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, you can find a lot that's like that. Like
one of the more popular characters is from a Cord
of Thorne, Roses from Akatar, and there are several guys
who will dress up like reesand who's the main one
of the main characters, and the few that have popped up,
like when I've scrolled through TikTok don't come across like this.
It's very much a character. It's maybe sometimes they'll like,

(37:58):
you know, read lines from the book and it's not
like I know what it's for. Obviously it's it's for
the ladies, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
It's not pornographic in nature, right, It's not.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Here's a chicken and some mayo.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Although I'm sure the deeper you get into books, I'm
sure there it's the more likely you are to find
the chicken and mayo videos.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I'm sure. Absolutely, I'm in book talk because I want
to see what other people are reading and like to get,
you know, recommendations for myself.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
It's so wild because in my mind, all these little
TikTok subcultures I imagine them. There's like little different rooms.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I could get that.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
And it's like, if you're like on book talk, you're
still on TikTok. I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
You're in a separate area.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
If I ever come across one of those while I'm
on book talk, I will be sure to let you know.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I saw some pretty spicy stuff on the book talk.
You guys, let us know what TikTok cult you're a
part of. There's lots, there's water talk, fairy talk, there's uh,
sourdough that's a huge one, sourdough talk, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
For making sourdough bred.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of little cult sea. It's overwhelming, honestly.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
So anyways, so this guy, he also does the nerd
transformation into, like we said earlier, Johnny Depp, because he
has gotten a lot of comments that he looks like
Johnny Depp. So he will post videos transforming into one
of Johnny Depp's looks. Over the years. From what I saw,

(39:24):
it was mainly like nineties early nineties, Johnny Depp is
who he most resembles when he does those videos and
in the old videos on the account that had gotten
shut down, But it sounds like it's back.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
No, I mean it probably got shut down too, because
now he's back to being she Love.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yes, but she loves.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Because I typed in between Heaven and Dream TikTok and
it went to the she Love account.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Okay, So originally he would post videos where he would
tie women up, like we said, with the ties and belts.
And then after that account originally got suspended, did he
then went to doing it to himself, so now we
just bdsms himself.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Well, I prefer that to other humans. Honestly, I don't
think I trust him around other people. He gives me
the hardcore X.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, he goes cringey.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Ps. I just sent his new TikTok via text if
you want to give it a little peaksy just to
like check out his new vibe.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I'm gonna have to and then I'm gonna have to
like pray that I don't get a thousand of these
videos and my for you page.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Well, don't look at it in your real TikTok the
steaks are fucking high there, dude.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I know I'm gonna need like a burner account. Yeah,
a podcast account for research purposes.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Oh oh oh, speaking of burners. So you guys, I
was watching a new BJA Investigates video yesterday, and if
y'all listened to any of the Mcamie Manners series or
the Amanda Rabits, so then you probably heard me mention
that my Reddit accounts got deleted both of them, and
so did my subred about Amanda rab and Mark Leta

(41:02):
from Soft White Underbelly in two of BJ's recent videos.
She said, you can't say anything nice about her on Reddit,
it gets deleted or whatever. My accounts said, Hey, just
because we're posting a lot of this person's content and
whatever does not mean that we endorse all of their
opinions or all of their work or agree or blah

(41:23):
blah blah. But it was very like pro Bjay's work
and her event investigation around it. So I thought, like,
I'm pretty small. So I was like, that's a little
I don't know, I feel like I'm coming off borderline
paranoid saying like they hacked me. But Bja's like far bigger.
She's been sued and she was just in a documentary

(41:43):
and everything. And I don't know who owns Reddit or whatever,
but the fact that she said you can't say nice
things about her on Reddit, and I literally got silenced
when I tried to expose her work further. I don't
know what's going on over at Reddit, you guys, but
I don't fucking trust it.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Little sketch, we'll sketch again.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I forgot to take my adderall. I don't know why
that came up. It felt very apropos though. So anyways, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
So this guy who we are gonna wrap up real
quick is also a fan of Andrew Tate, who we
are not fans of. He will post videos of time
lapses where he's watching Andrew Taate videos and taking notes
ew and like he'll label the videos. The text at
the top will say things like how we gonna get rich?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Oh, yeah, you guys. Andrew Tait is a literal sex trafficker.
He gets women, yeah, what is called the lover boy method.
He's like, oh, I'm your boyfriend, come to where I
am and I'm gonna take care of you, bloody blah,
and then he sells them into sex slavery and then
he's like, join my class and I'll tell you how
to do that too. How is that not illegal? Freaking

(42:59):
out as I say, I don't know, it's wild.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
And like I remember seeing the clips of him, like
of the time lapses, and it was gross. I don't
know why, but it just rubbed me in like such
a wrong way. Maybe it's because I know what he's watching,
but he's just sitting in taking notes of how he's
gonna get rich.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Well that's me being like, oh, hey, I'm just gonna
go listen to bt K and just like take some
fucking life notes from.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Him and figure out what you're gonna do with your life.
That vibe, Yeah, it's gross, but you guys.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Andrew Tait is like beloved amongst in cells. And I
want to call this guy an in cell because he's
good looking and he uh he fucking uh okay, so okay,
and he's always like looking for a girlfriend, which makes
it feel like he's like very thirsty, but also like
the fact that he's so in the know and makes

(43:56):
so much content about mewing, which is about looksmaxing, which
is most commonly in the in cell community, and Andrew
Tait is who in cells look up to red pill
and sells you guys the black pill in cells, And
I'm going to repost that fucking episode because they're like, what.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
There is some of that in the Andrew Tait notes
as well.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Ah okay, yeah, so we'll talk about that in the
next episode, which will be about Andrew Tait. But the
black Pill in cells are like, fuck yeah, Andrew Tait.
The red pill in cells are like, society just loves
women and makes their life way easier, so we just
have to kill ourselves and everybody else. It's fucked. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
So while we have this guy who has been being
gross and being so sad because he's lonely and he
doesn't have a girlfriend, on the other spectrum, we have
TikTok dating coaches, and if you are looking for advice
on dating men or women, don't follow these guys' advice.

(44:53):
It won't work.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
It's super weird because all the guys on the tick
to who are like, what's up? Follow me for dating tips?
They're never like getting the girl even in the videos,
which is like embarrassing. It makes me confused because I

(45:14):
don't know why people are seeing these examples of them
getting denied and then being like, Yeah, that's whose advice
I'm gonna follow. But that seems to be what's going on.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah. So this specific dating coach, his username is real
playing with Fire and he actually uses his TikTok account
and a podcast to coach other men in dating and women.
So his TikTok account in his bio says dating and
self improvement account. So he's out there to help the bros.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
One of the things he does on his TikTok is
he will rate the tender bios of men and women.
One of the things he asks, well, he asks like himself,
and then he answers it is what does it mean
if a girl has no hook in her Tinder bio?
His answer was jack shit, It's like wait what okay.
He will find these ridiculous tender bios and like read

(46:11):
over them, and this is one that he put up
that said it was the most creative he'd seen in
a long time. And this is what the bio says,
quote females, I'm looking for a woman who will in
all caps make me come. And then he proceeds to
list out an anagram of make me come with all
the ways that he wants the woman to appreciate him,

(46:31):
so he makes it a little poem. The poem says,
make me dinner, appreciate the things I do for you,
kiss me, eager to ask about my day, Marry me endlessly,
love me, capture my heart until death do us part.
And then the m the last M is make me come.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
You guys, my vagina just not only dried up, but
like went inside itself and just fully disappeared.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
It's gone.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
It's fucking gone.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
That was a poem he wrote.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Hey a for creativity, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
He was very creative. And you know, if I had
like come across somebody reading this, because I follow a
TikTok that is this guy who reads hilarious Facebook comments,
he'll read the post and then he'll read all the
stupid comments on it in this really funny voice. And
I feel like if he was the guy who read
that bio and was like making a joke out of it,
that I'd be like, oh my god, that's hilarious. But

(47:25):
this guy is like, yes, this is creative. I love it,
and like thinks it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
You guys don't like any of the guys who are
listening to this guy listening to this it's just like
it's like, no, don't follow that guy's advice.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
No, there's another tender bio that he rated where it's
just this nice man. He looks very nice, he's got
glasses on, he's wearing a hat, he's smiling in his photos.
He's not super bulky, but he's just an average sized person.
And he says that this man needs to ditch the glasses,

(47:59):
grow a beard, take off his hat, put on some muscle,
and stop smiling so much in every photo.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Isn't his advice to everybody to like, grow a beard
and take their glasses off. That's the standard advice.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
The poor man needs to see.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
I like glasses, you guys, I have a glasses fetish. Okay,
I think glasses are hot as fick.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
And I have glasses. I just don't have them on
right now.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
They should be listening to women, not other men. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
So basically, this playing with Fire guy has rated this
man's tender bio as too nice and pleasant, which means
he will never get a date never.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I know who likes people who are nice and pleasant?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I know, and I remember them showing the picture of
the man in question, and he looked perfectly normal and lovely,
perfectly fine. He will post role playing type skits on
different scenarios with women.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I need to put up the video to this. I'm
wearing a Mickey Mouse pajamas, you guys. But the face,
because it's well, the face that have been making the
whole time.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's just yeah, it's not even like he's doing this
in a real place. Okay, there's nobody around, Like he's
not going to a real bar. These people are either
friends of his or I don't know, I don't know
what woman would be like, cool, yeah, i'll do I'll
be in your video. But the first video that I
had come across was how to Invite a Girl Back
to Your Place, which shows him sitting at a makeshift

(49:25):
bar next to a woman really creepily close, which would
be fine if they had known each other for a while,
but it's very clear that it's meant to be like, hey,
I'm picking you up.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I don't know you.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
He kind of boxes her, like she has her legs
crossed and he they're kind of like sort of facing
each other in the barstools, and so he takes his
man spreaded legs and like boxes her cross legs between
his ew so she's like trapped. I'm like doing this
with my legs and you can't even see it under
the table. Then they roll play some sort of conversation,

(49:57):
and in the middle of this like sentence, he lunges
into her and grabs at the sight of her face
to like whisper into her ear, and then sort of
just kind of drags her out of her seat and
is like, I know where we can get another drink.
It is beyond all were horrifying.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
That is I don't know, maybe the video is a
different vibe, but as you just know it that I
am fucking scared.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
It does not look natural.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
This man is gonna drag me out of a bar,
no thank you.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
He does not look natural at all. It looks very awkward,
which is why I said, I feel like I don't
know if these are his friends doing this, because it's
very acted. It's very set up. It's like, well, of
course she's gonna come with you. That's the point of
the video. It's not like it's a hidden camera. Look
what I do to pick up a woman. It's very acting.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
When it is that, it's really embarrassing and it doesn't work.
This guy, he's named like Confident Chris or something. He
goes up to this woman in the grocery store line
and he's like, hey, what's up. How you do it?
And she's just like no, and she just basically fucking
says no and rejects him the entire time. And he's like, damn,

(51:07):
you look really good for your age, you know, And
she's like uh huh because she's like in her fifties
and he's in his twenties. And he's like, want to
hang out sometime or something. She's like no, and he's like,
you know, you could teach me a thing or two.
She's like, oh my gosh no, and he's like so
what do you think?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
And then they still post that I don't get.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
It And then dude in the comments, you're like, what's up, man?
Can you help me out? It's like, no, this is
not hitch, obviously not not successful.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
As I'm reading this, I remember watching this video and
being like, why is this a thing? So the next
video is on how to approach women when walking in
a hallway don't enclosed space. He's showing different approaches and
like if it's a don't do this, that's what text
will be on the screen, or if it is a
do do this, then that will pop up. So the
don't do this includes running up behind her and tap

(52:00):
her shoulder. Okay, yeah, don't do that. The do this
approach is to rush in front of her instead instead
of just stopping behind her. You're gonna rush in front
of her.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Don't rush at me.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Yeah, then you're gonna turn back around to talk to her, like,
you know, so that you're in front of her blocking
the way now, and then you're going to say, I
just saw you were walking and I thought you were cute.
That's how you pick up a woman in a hallway.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
How to creep out woman in a hallway?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, that's really the more accurate description of that. This
is a gross one. He does a video on how
to playfully ask if a girl that you're talking to
is fat nice, like if you're on you know, tender
or whatever you need to know.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
It's like so in your pictures you don't look like it,
but in real life for you at fatty mcfatty fat
fat Right.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
In this video, he's like texting a girl and obviously
because he can't see her. So he's showing images of
this conversation that they're not real. There's just no do
you respond this way in real life?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
A phone that he's responding to himself with.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Absolutely or he's got another gross friend texting him back
and they've just changed the contact name.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
So his message says, all your picks are headshots. You
aren't a secret fatty are you?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
That is so playful and cute.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
It's adorable. It would warm my heart.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Great way to break that.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
He claims it may sound crude, but it's also fairly
amusing and it generally gets a good reaction. And he
claims that the response he gets is oh geez, that's
a question like what, I'm sorry? What?

Speaker 2 (53:37):
That's something I might say when I'm really uncomfortable as well.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
This is one of the ones where when I watched
this is like, why do you need a tutorial on this?
He makes a video on how you handle a situation
where a girl says she doesn't drink alcohol?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Whatever will you do?

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah, you're on a date, You're at a bar, she
doesn't drink alcohol. Oh my god, what do you do?
There are no other options? So his genius idea this
is so brilliant, guys, put this in your books. Offer
her a different drink, coffee maybe or tea.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I love coffee.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
You don't say Tee's great.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
That is quality content. It is people should not be missing.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Out on right. I'm glad that he's letting everyone know.
Another video he does is an example of what not
to do when asking a woman questions about herself. So
he just wants to, you know, make sure everybody knows
how to be a good conversationalist. So his don't do
this scenario is basically just him asking questions about her career.
He asks like four questions about her career. Don't do that.

(54:40):
His do scenario shows him asking one question and then
flipping the conversation around to let her know that he's
a male stripper, and then makes gross suggestive jokes and
leans uncomfortably close to her again and like cups the
ear in her face.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Hold on, do not ask her questions about her career
slash she don't do life slash possible passion.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Nope, you get one question.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Cause I know that I hate when I'm on a
date and I'm feeling maybe interested in somebody. Am I
describing a scenario that's ever happened. I don't know, but listen,
nobody likes not like the person who just talks about
themselves the whole time.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
That guy sucks, especially if he's telling you he's a
male stripper after asking one question and then makes suggestive,
disgusting jokes about it.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Also, what's funny about being a male stripper? You know,
get that money? This guy sucks?

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Hey, this guy does suck. He then goes on he
has so many videos, guys, it is so bizarre, that's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
There's so much content.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
It never would end. We could make an entire podcast
just talking about TikTok morons.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I know, like we're gonna have to wrap this episode
up after this dude.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, and we still have so many more dudes.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Oh, so many.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Hey, talk about a rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
It's I don't know, it's fine though, Yeah, I think
that though. Next we'll go in to Andrew Taate, okay,
and then come back to these guys.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Well, this guy, he's got a real big question that
we know what Andrew Tate's answer would be, But he
wants to know if being a beta or an alpha
male is the best.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
What kind of question even is that? Obviously alpha, well,
because he says it's beta to show emotions in front
of your women.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Women like sensitive men. But no, no, no, this guy
disagrees with that. The answer actually lies somewhere in the middle,
because men don't want to be super emotional all the
time and they don't want to react to everything and
resemble quote a little bitch. So women, you know, they
want a sensitive guy, but you don't want to be
a little bitch. So he's not sure. It lays somewhere

(56:49):
in that gray area between alpha and beta. And I
don't know why, but that video just tickled me.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
So his thesis is I don't know the answer. There's
no definitive answer.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
No, I don't know what to do. This is another
one that I was like, wait what Okay, So he
made a video questioning why a woman he messaged like
an actual woman, not a pretend woman, said that she
doesn't meet new people after eight pm. Perfectly reasonable.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I think that's totally yeah, fair.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Perfectly safe. She replied that it's too dark. In his
actual response to her, he shows the phone there are lights,
which totally just disregards her boundary of safety. She puts
the boundary up. Hey, I don't know you it's eight o'clock.
That's not gonna fly.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
He's like, fuck that you, guys, Yeah, that's Shenanigan's We
can turn.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
On some lights. It's fine. And then he also gives
you a scenario of how you should respond if this
girl that you're messaging texts back that she's busy. So
the girl in this scenario says that she's trying to
get a job and is just really busy with all
of getting a job entails. You know, you've got to
apply for jobs, and you've got to, you know, work
on your interview skills, and you've got to do all

(58:02):
this stuff to get ready, and she's super busy with this.
And his response, Guys, his response is basically that if
you have sex, it increased a prospects chance of getting
a job by sixty nine percent.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Not four hundred twenty percent.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Not sixty nine And she supposed she supposedly replies back,
maybe we should have some. There's no way. This is
a real conversation. So if you're looking for a job,
hit this guy up. He knows how to increase your
chances or a girlfriend. Right, So he makes another video
on how to be persistent with girls, and he says, girls.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Okay, you know, just totally ignore their boundaries.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
There are lights, it's fine. He says that you want
to be cute without being needy, and so he shows
examples of messages that he says he sends to women
that say cute, I almost don't want to ruin you.
I'm sorry what that sounds disgusting? He sent it three
times over the course of three weeks, and then says

(59:06):
he finally got a message back because it works. Guys,
he got a message back after three weeks.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Do not repeat well that or okay. So when I
was on Tinder for a hot minute, this guy messaged
me six times in a row, you want to fuck?

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Red flag?

Speaker 2 (59:24):
So I finally said, do you realize that you sent
that same thing six times in a row, and he goes, yep,
do you want to fuck? I was like, this is insane.
This guy's probably making videos on TikTok on how to
pick girls up.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
He probably is, and he's he's wrong.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
He's so really he's wrong.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
My husband and I knew each other for several years
before we started dating. When we were chatting, just texting,
he said to me, Hey, you wanna go get a
drink sometime. Okay, cool, that's how you do it.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Mm hmmm, I'm assuming your answer.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Was yeah, it was as we are not married, but
he didn't creep me out, so gentlemen, don't creep out
the women in your life. So he makes all these
fucking stupid ass videos of these stupid scenarios that you
know are not real, that you know can't possibly be real,
and then he does something that it was a little
out of left field for me because it's so very

(01:00:16):
different from the stupid ass tiktoks. He does YouTube videos
as well. Oh with the pod.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I don't know if it's more than one platform, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
I don't know if he does it through his podcast
that he runs, or if it's completely separate.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I'm not sure he has a podcast too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
He does have a podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Any old JABBRONI can make a podcast, am I right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
So he does these YouTube videos and he will get
feminists on as his guests, and he just argues with
them the entire y.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
You're not talking about a scene from Borat.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
You know what it sounds like, I am. That is
what is so sad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Honestly happens.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
He argues with these women about how he is right
in all of his opinions, and the key there is opinions.
So yeah, he makes these stupid ass tiktoks and then
he goes and b rates actual women that aren't like
his little actress friends or whatever. And yeah, I felt

(01:01:14):
like that gave a bit of a sinister level to him.
I can ignore his tiktoks and he's he's not harming
me because I'm not gonna put up with his bullshit.
But when you're attacking the women who are standing up
for women just for the sake of being an asshole,
you know he Lovesandreer Tait. Oh yeah, I don't even
have to look it up. No, he probably is part

(01:01:35):
of the school.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
There is so many of these guys who are like
quote dating coaches or pick up artists, who are having
zero success and who are giving really gross, unsuccessful advice,
and they're just like hundreds of thousands, if not millions,
of dumb, probably sadly young dudes following them. Yeah it's bad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Oh it is gross, so gross. Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Well, next time we will tell you about the king
of these dudes, the guy that they love and that
they look up to. Andrew Tate, what a fuck. In
the meantime, I'm going to put up that old rabbit
Hole episode looks maxing into the manisphere. You guys should
listen to that because it'll be helpful. We're getting into

(01:02:23):
like a deep dive kind of thing. It's pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
We're going down our own rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
So thank you guys, focusing and we'll see you next time.
That was real as fuck, Krista and real fucked up
because as we know, nothing is as real as social media.
Bye TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Untill we see the song much.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Fucked up. It's just the EF, that's what them
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