Harnessing the Power of Permaculture for a Healthier You and Planet with Matthew Britt

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Dai Manuel (00:11):
Welcome back to another episode of the 2%
Solution Podcast.
I'm your host, Diamond Well,and today we have a special
guest on a mission to transformour approach to food and
sustainability.
Imagine a world where yourbackyard can provide abundant,
fresh, nutritious food, reducingyour reliance on grocery stores

(00:31):
and ultimately contributing toa healthier planet.
Sounds intriguing, right?
Today's guest is the incredibleMatthew Britt, an entrepreneur
and advocate for sustainableliving.
Matthew has taken a fascinatingjourney from the fitness
industry to becoming a leadingvoice in the permaculture and
sustainable food systems.

(00:52):
He is the driving force behindFood Forest Abundance, a company
empowering individuals to growtheir own food using innovative,
nature-friendly methods.
So stay tuned as we dive intoMatthew's story, his insights on
creating a localized,decentralized, poison-free food
supply and how to take smallsteps towards a more

(01:14):
self-sufficient lifestyle.
Trust me, you don't want tomiss this.
If you find today's episodevaluable, subscribe, share and
leave us a review.
Let's get started.
Welcome back to the 2% SolutionPodcast.
I'm still Diamond Will.
I haven't changed that yet, butanyways, you're welcome back.

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As I said in the intro, we gota great guest today, Somebody
I've known for over 10 years.
We both are extremelypassionate about health and
fitness.
In fact, both of our originswere in health and fitness
industries.
He has now gone into acompletely different industry,
but not really.
It's still about health and infact, today we're going to be
talking about transformingpersonal health, but also

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environmental impact throughhomegrown food and really how to
be more self-reliant when itcomes to living off the life,
and I mean, we got nobody betterto speak to about this other
than Matthew Britt.
Matt, welcome to the show, dude.

Matthew Britt (02:11):
Hey brother, great to see you, great to be
here, very excited about thisinterview, and I'm so fucking
it's great to see what you'vebeen able to do with this show.
You've had it running for avery short period of time really
, and you've got tremendoustraction, making a lot of impact
.
People are loving it, so I'mgrateful to be here with you.

Dai Manuel (02:34):
Thanks, man.
Listen man, it's.
Uh, I appreciate that it's.
It's honestly, it's thelisteners and I got to thank
them because they keep helpingme show up.

I gotta be honest .

Dai Manuel (02:45):
I'm showing up for them.
You know, if they keep tellingme they like it, they're finding
value and they keep giving megreat ideas, I'll keep showing
up, so that's my commitment toeverybody that's listening to
this and uh, but also greatguests like you.
I mean, selfishly speaking, I'mlearning a ton in areas I know
nothing about, because I get tointerview people like yourself
and and in fact I'm reallycurious, like, how do you go

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from health industry like thefitness industry, especially
cause you had a heavy fitnessbackground like myself?
Yeah, You're doing what you'redoing now, which is you've
completely embraced being anentrepreneur, but I, you've been
an entrepreneur a long time indifferent spaces, but this is a
very different direction, youknow, not one I would have ever
guessed for you based on ourearly days where we started.
So I'd love to hear how the helldo you get to where you are

(03:29):
today, especially from a fitnessbackground like we both shared,
you know.

Well, it's actually rather interesting
because and simple because I seta high overarching mission for
my life, a high overarchingmission for my life, and when I
determined what that was, I wasable to choose different things
to do, as long as it fit insidethat overall mission for my life

(03:57):
.
And, truthfully, I chose toimpact life, health and wealth.
I wrote that on a card back in2004.
So over 20 years ago, when Ifirst got exposed to the
industry of network marketing, Iwas actually working at the
college gym in Ottawa andcreated that overarching mission

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for myself.
And as I journeyed through thehealth and fitness world, I was
always an entrepreneur at thesame time in the network
marketing industry, promotingdifferent health products.
And then, when I met youthrough the company we were a
part of, they interestinglyenough, had a mission of life,
health and prosperity.

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So it fit with my life, healthand wealth thing.
And as I went through thathealth and fitness journey with
that company, as that kind ofcame to a close, I moved into
the solar industry.
Actually, at first I had at-shirt business that was all
about spreading hugs, positivevibes and happiness, but then I

(05:02):
moved into the solar space andfrom the solar space is what led
me to where I'm at today.
So, starting in the fitnessworld, I saw myself improving
people's health through movement, mindset, breath, work,
nutrition, getting them off ofchemicals, pharmaceutical drugs.
And as I made that journey over15 years and had a lot of

(05:26):
success, another opportunitycame to me around the solar
space, and that was a spacewhere I could also go to work
against some of the things thathad been harming people inside
of the chemical, oil and gasworld.
Right, and I believe that we'vebeen harming our environment.

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I don't necessarily believe aclimate change narrative, but I
believe we need to take care ofour environment, no question
about it.
So I didn't get into solar tosave the world and do this lead
this green transition, althoughI did it to.
Hey, if we can collect energyfrom the sun, why are we wasting
all of this space on homes thatcurrently just get beat up by

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the sun?
Right, let's collect the energyand utilize it to power our
lives.
And I also realized thatthere's still a massive amount
of people throughout the worldthat have no access to
electricity today, but they have, interestingly enough, the most
sunlight.
Most of these people that don'thave electricity live around
the equator, where there's a lotof sun, so let's capture that.

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So that's what made metransition into solar.
And as I was in the solarindustry, I came across where
I'm at now Food Forest Abundance, and I knew nothing about
permaculture, which is thescience we operate on.
All that I got was, hey, thiscompany and this solar business
could potentially collaborate,because everybody who's putting

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a solar array on their home,whether they realize it or not,
they're looking for other waysto be more self-sufficient.
So as I got with the owner ofFood Forest Abundance and I saw
the opportunities to collaborate, I connected him with the CEO
of the solar business.
At that time it wasn't theright move for the solar company
, but as I got moreunderstanding of what these guys

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were doing with Food ForestAbundance, I decided there's a
much greater opportunity foroverall positive impact here and
I made a complete pivot.
Literally zero experience inthat space, mind you, I had zero
experience in solar either whenI jumped over there, nor did I
have any experience in thet-shirt world when I went to
that side.
So, hey, let's have some funright and made that move three

(07:38):
years ago.
We've now done business in 54countries, over 800 designs in
those countries and making atremendous impact, but we're
just getting warmed up dude,that is freaking.

Dai Manuel (07:54):
Epic and one sec.
Can you hear me still?
I can yeah sorry I might haveto edit this little section out
here.
Sorry, I uh, why am I nothearing you?
Can you say something?
Something real quick, matt,check, check, check.
Oh, okay, I got you back.
I got you back.
My iPod's kicked out there, butI heard I could hear you
through my speakers here.
But anyways, I'll have to do alittle bit of editing there.

(08:14):
It's all good.
Yep, I'm a master editor now,but uh okay, okay, okay, little
sound spike there, there we go,okay, ah, so for food, forest
food abundance food food forestabundance forest abundance.

(08:35):
Oh my god, I'm alreadybutchering that.
Listen to me everybody.
I I'm like my mom, who wasmutant ninja teenage turtles my
entire life growing up as ateenager.
My mom could never say it,right.
I just turned into my mom.

All right.

Dai Manuel (08:51):
So can you explain food, forest abundance, you know
, and how it differs fromconventional farming methods,
because I believe that there'sprobably a good handful of
people listening to this.
I believe that there's probablya good handful of people
listening to this and I'm one ofthose included that probably
aren't familiar with the littledifferences back and forth,
because this is all under theguise of sustainable living,
which I know you're extremelypassionate and a huge advocate

(09:13):
for, matthew.
So if you could just sort ofwalk us through how this differs
so we better understand it,that'd be awesome.

Yeah, and to start, I'm not a farmer, neither
is anybody in our company, andneither is that what we're doing
to encourage you to do.
That's not it Awesome.
What people typically thinkabout when they think about
growing food is usually one oftwo things an annual garden or a

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monoculture farm, and this isimportant.
Both of those things fightnature every step of the way.
They literally are competingwith the natural world to
produce what they want to growand kill everything else, which
is why it's very time energy andmoney intensive.

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Energy and money intensive.
It's a lot of work to fightnature.
Nature is relentless.
It's never going to lose.
So what we do is permaculture,permanent agriculture.
It's utilizing the hundreds ofthousands of edible perennial

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and edible and medicinalperennial plants in a very
thoughtfully designed way,converting current ornamental
and liability focused landscapeinto an edible landscape that is
actually an asset for you andwill produce food for decades.

(10:45):
You put it in the ground once.
It is less maintenance than alawn and it will produce food
for you.
It doesn't matter how muchspace you have.
We can do it on small pieces ofproperty and we can do it on
broad-acre farms.
It does not matter Suburbanhomes, homesteads, schools,

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churches, resorts, hotels,restaurants, corporate campuses,
wherever wherever we currentlyhave lawn space, we can produce
an abundance of food there, andwe work with nature instead of
fight nature.
We design this with diversityin mind.

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It's not about growing onething.
It's about growing as manythings as we possibly can that
can provide for you and yourfamily and community, if you
want it to.

Dai Manuel (11:44):
Dude, I love this, I absolutely love it.
Only because you know, here inVancouver it's kind of neat
because we don't get a lot ofsnow here.

I mean we might get a couple of days a year, yep
.

Dai Manuel (11:55):
And also there's golfers that golf all year round
.
Here you know, like snowboardone day and they'll golf the
next right.
And if they're brave they mightwindsurf the next day after
that One day and they'll golfthe next right and if they're
brave they might windsurf thenext day after that.
But I don't get in the water inthe winter, I'll tell you that,
but regardless we have a lot ofgreen spaces and they've been
claiming a lot of these urbanspaces, specifically old gas

(12:15):
stations that get torn down, andthere's a certain process that
they have to do to remove a lotof the ground beneath a gas
station Because inevitablythere's been lots of leaking and
leaching gas and full things.
So what do they do?
Rather than frigging you knowterraform and dig up the land
that's all poisoned, they putall these planters on top and
they make it a community.

(12:35):
Yeah, so we have all thesecommunity gardens popping up and
I see a lot of different typesof plants being planted and
every once in a while I'll seethese intentional like it looks
like a vegetable garden, but Iknow that they aren't
necessarily the vegetables thatI might be thinking about.
They might be micro greens andsure and other things, and so
that's obviously great forpeople who live in condos to

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have access to a public space.
But what are you finding is thebig issues that you're
constantly coming up against,because I imagine there's a lot
of misconceptions that relate toactually implementing this and
embracing this as part of ourown lifestyle.

Like I can think of a hundred different ones.

Dai Manuel (13:09):
You know, like I live in a condo on the 15th
floor, I got no garden space.
We don't have a communitygarden accessible.
Like what do I do?
You know, and so I.
I would love to hear yourthoughts on what are some of the
big objections or issues you'reseeing with people not being
able to implement this.

Well, and even let's just touch on these
community gardens, the one thingthat's happening there is
they're still going and fightingnature every step of the way,
right?
So they're still plantingannual gardens every spring and
harvesting different timesthroughout the year and making
sure that they're out thereweeding.
They're out there watering,because they keep their soil
exposed.
The soil dries out very quickly.

(13:45):
They don't actually have a veryhealthy microbiome inside that
soil.
It's more often dead soil with,which is why they need
fertilizers, right, chemicalfertilizers oftentimes.
So interesting things canhappen when you begin to work
with the ground, even if you'retalking about an old gas station

(14:05):
.
There's biological things thatwill actually break down those
chemicals and turn them intoessential fatty acids that then
could be utilized by themicrobes in the ground in work
with the plants to again build athriving ecosystem.
Why are they doing that?
They are, they are, they are,they've got some people who are
doing ecosystem.
Why are they doing that?
They are, they are, they are.

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They've got some people who aredoing it.
Others are right.
So we have entrenched systemsthat are driven by money.
At this point, right, andhere's the reality.
With abundance, nature isabundant.
Naturally, there's no money.
In abundance, food will groweverywhere, right, every

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boulevard, every neighborhood,every brand new neighborhood
that a home builder is puttingtogether.
Why are they planting onlyornamental trees, bushes, right?
Why isn't your new home you'rebuying there surrounded by small
shrubs that are blueberries andraspberries and blackberries

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and Saskatoon berries and allthe other things that could be
grown there, and instead it's anornamental right?
Why are we planting a tree onthat property that doesn't
produce anything, when it couldbe an apple tree that will
produce for your family for 50years?
Right, 150 pounds plus ofapples every two years?

Dai Manuel (15:33):
That's incredible, yeah, why not why?

Well, I totally couldn't tell you why not.
I think part of the reason whynot is because if, excuse me, if
we utilize the food that wehave patents on for the seed,
then there's money, right Right,excuse me, as mentioned,

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there's no money in abundance,right right?
And we've got today a lot ofthe seeds are genetically
modified and they're donebecause you can patent them.
But two is they're resistant tothe chemicals that we're going
to use in that growing process.
Because, remember, we'refighting nature.

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We only want to grow said thing, everything else we don't want
it there because it's competing,in their view, against what
we're trying to grow.
I can't have any of my waterresources go to growing these
things.
They need to all go to growingthese things.
But here's something elsethat's very interesting.

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When you work with nature andyou keep the ground covered
which is how nature does it inthe forest the ground is covered
.
It holds on to water.
Healthy soil truly holds on towater.
For every inch of soil per acre, it's thousands of gallons of

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additional water retention inthat spot.
But when you grow in themonoculture system, where every
year you till your soil, everyyear your water holds on to less
and less of the nutrients, thatmicrobe system that's in there,
but it also holds on to lessand less of the nutrients that
microbe system that's in there,but it also holds on to less and
less of the water.
And if you've ever dug a holeand let that hole sit, you

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realize very quickly that whatused to be wet, moist earth, it
becomes more like a scab.
Right, it hardens.
Why does it do that?
The earth is trying to protectitself?
Right, it hardens.
Why does it do that?
The earth is trying to protectitself?
Right, so it forms this scablike hard, compact crust.

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Water doesn't permeate, right,so it rains.
Where does that water all go?
Instead of into the localaquifer, it runs away to a
little drainage ditch or a seweror wherever, and makes its way
somewhere else.
So we've been doing this fordecades.

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We've all heard of the DustBowl, right?
This modern industrial farmingsystem has fought nature for so
long that we're now in a spotwhere we've got some very
serious damage.
That's happening, and our foodsupply is way less nutrient
dense because our soil is nothealthy.

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We've got sick soil, whichleads to sick plants, which
leads to poor nutrient densityin the food, to poor nutrient
density in the food.
We've got chemicals utilized inthe soil on the plants, which
now leads to unhealthy human,and we've got this massive
cyclical effect.
Where to care for this nowunhealthy human, we put more

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chemicals in their body.
Right, who's winning here?
Chemical companies, chemicalcompanies.
And it's not, and they're notbad person, that's just the
system that we've built and theytalk about yeah, you get more
yield by using our chemicals,great.
And I, as a farmer, don't havea choice, because I've got

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quotas to meet, I've got numbersI've got to hit and if I can't
produce my numbers, I don't makemy money and I can't pay my
debt and I lose my farm.
That's been with my family forfive generations or whatever.
It is right.
Meanwhile, the truth is actuallywe can rebuild soil, we can

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grow an abundant amount of food.
Everybody who's got some spacecould be growing some.
And then we go oh well, whatabout the guy that lives in the
condo?
Well, if more food is beingproduced at all of the homes
around the city, if you've got alocalized and decentralized
food supply, how much more ofthat now becomes available for
the guy that lives in the condo?

(19:58):
Right, the grocery store thathas high prices now is forced to
cut those prices down becausenow they have a demand issue.
Right, everybody's producingsome food at home.
More great food would appear inthe grocery store at a cheaper
price.
Also, the guy in the condo.
The great news is there'sincredible technologies that

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exist to help people grow inside, so you could have a vertical
growing wall.
You could literally convert awall to be green and have it
producing again a significantamount of food for you.
So there's lots of solutions.
Permaculture has a foundationof the problem.

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Is the solution like?
So we look for what are thesethings that are the challenge
and inside there, what's thesolution?
Around it and our whole ethicsis earth care, first people care
and then reinvesting thesurplus into earth care and
people care dude.

Dai Manuel (21:00):
All right, I know people are listening to
everything that you've just saidlast few minutes, so they're
probably all nodding their headlike I am like yeah, yeah, yeah,
okay.
I I don't think anybody's goingto disagree that there's a
problem environmentally in ourplanet.
Yeah, I don't think anyone'sgoing to disagree that we got a
problem with our food qualityyeah no like, come on, I get, we

(21:22):
do.
There's a reason why we have somany preservatives trying to
keep our food fresh when it'sfunny, because it's also less
nutrient dense now.
So it's like we're helping letnutritious foods survive longer.
Why, I don't know, butregardless, we got this
challenge and and so thesolution that you're providing
is really empowering as far asI'm or why I don't know, but
regardless, we got thischallenge, and so the solution

(21:43):
that you're providing is reallyempowering as far as I'm
concerned.

It is.

Dai Manuel (21:45):
Because it also it's giving the power back to those
that may not even be aware thatthis is something that they can
have power around, right, likethis idea of being self-reliant
and making your own food, and Iknow that you've said that you
could replace a wall in a condoand get a lot of food from it.
Now, I know there's probablypeople thinking it's like Keish
I I've seen some of those littlethings this way it's going to

(22:06):
produce enough food for me, letalone my family.
You know, like, because maybewhat we believe of what we're
growing and what we're talkingabout right now because I
imagine the time piece is thebig one that you run up against
you know it's like oh, it's tootime consuming and too energy or
resource heavy to grow my ownfood at home and I don't know
what to do or how to do it.
I got to just, I can justimagine all the excuses you must

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hear.
But this part around the timepiece, you know like what, what
would you say to that?
You know, like anybody thatbelieves that growing their food
is too time consuming orpotentially too complicated,
like, how do you address thesemisconceptions and what are some
of the biggest challenge youface in changing that narrative
right now.

Yeah, and they are right.
If they're going to grow foodthe way that they see and
they're used to, they're goingto have an annual garden.
It is going to be a lot of workfor a very small yield, and
we're not saying that you haveto grow a hundred percent of
your own food.
What we're saying is dosomething, grow something.
And we also were the experts inthe design piece.

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It's the foundation of all ofthis.
And to keep that part simple,think about I'm going to build a
home.
What are you putting in yourhome?
I have no idea.
Well, how do you figure thatout?
You get a design done right andthen that design gives you the
blueprint to go tell you what'sgoing to go in this.
And we're the same.
We essentially are a designbusiness.

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We design permanent agriculture, food systems.
Once you have that design inhand, you have choices.
You can take that design anddiy that install yourself.
The reason we use local nativeperennial plants is because
those things are designed togrow in that growing condition,

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that climate zone, and, beingperennial, it means they come
back year over year, whereas anannual garden it's exactly like
it sounds like Annually.
I got to go out there and workit and plant it in the ground
and then fight nature right.
I got to do my weeding and mywatering and all my stuff,
because my soil is exposed weagain flip that on its head.

(24:17):
Because my soil is exposed weagain flip that on its head.
We get you the design made withedible perennial plants.
We build it in seven layers ofproduction, one of those being
ground cover.
Okay, so we keep the groundcovered, and then we have our

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small shrubs and our largerbushes and our understory trees
and our canopy trees, and then,oh yeah, there's vines in there
too.
And then you've also got yourmycelial network right, your
mushrooms, your funguses andthen your roots and tubers.
So if you build this in astacked function, what you grow
over here in one layer right, amonoculture farm or an annual

(24:58):
garden we produce over hereseven layers, so you're growing
much more.
In that same space it's about afive acre monoculture farm can
be outproduced by a one acrefood forest.

Dai Manuel (25:16):
Wow.

Now, the monoculture farm would have way
more of that one thing, whereasmy one acre food forest might
have 250 different edibleperennial plants in it, right.
So I've got massive diversityand variety.
I don't have to work the same,because my whole focus is

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building my soil, and thehealthier my soil is, the
healthier everything else inthat system is, and it's
designed to be, aself-regulating system.
We're letting nature do its joband getting out of the way,
whereas, as I've mentioned, themonoculture or the annual garden

(25:59):
, they try to fight nature andagain, nature is relentless.
It's never going to lose.
How do I know?
Don't cut your grass.
For two months you will nolonger just have grass, you're
going to start to have a meadow.
There's going to be all kindsof things that pop up and it's

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like how, where were those?
They were there the whole time.
Those seeds have been in theground the whole time, just
waiting for you to not fightRight Totally.

Dai Manuel (26:34):
Oh my gosh, I love everything you're saying.
You know, and I'm a bigproponent for sustainable life
and living and just bestpractices around creating a
better planet.
Like more so because I'mconcerned about my kids, kids
generation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dai Manuel (26:47):
Yeah, generation, I'm like.
Yeah, I'm like, do you generate?
I mean, I look at what'shappened since my grandparents.
Yeah, like that's not very long.
No Right, not very long, noright.

We're talking like under 100 years here and
I'm like, yeah, they've reallyscrewed things up.

Dai Manuel (27:03):
You know, I'm like if we don't do something the
next 100 years, it's going toget screwed up even faster well,
we're all going to be eatinglab.
Grown off, everything rightyeah, petri dish meat, thank you
very much.

Uh, no, you know it's crazy, it's great and
unfortunately, that's what wehave been bought like sold, and
we've all bought it right.
Yes, because of convenience.
It's all about convenience.
I want to be able to go to mygrocery store and get avocados

(27:34):
all year round.
And again, we're not sayingthat you can't still have access
to those things.
We're just saying why are webeing so irresponsible with our
resources when we have anabundant supply right here?
Why on earth is anybody withoutfood?

(27:54):
There's no reason why anybodyanywhere doesn't have enough
food to eat, except if it'sbeing controlled by centralized
systems.
Then it makes sense, becauseit's all about making money,
right the amount of food wasteis just astonishing as well.
Astonishing.

Dai Manuel (28:14):
Like absolutely you.
Just it's sickening.
It is absolutely sickening theamount of food waste.
I've heard that it's sickening,it is absolutely sickening the
amount of food waste.

I've heard that it's words of 40.

Dai Manuel (28:25):
Oh man, can you believe that?
40 like that is disgusting,disgusting, yep, like that takes
care of all the problems, allof them, all of them, all of
them, right, oh, anyways, okay,sorry, I didn't want to make
this an episode about all theproblems, because it's more
important.
We're about the solution.

Yeah, we're all about the solutions.
And you know, let's evenremember that if we have people
that are currently without food,living in food deserts, they're
looking for solutions right.
Right now, it's about givingthem donations.
What if we taught them how tofish right?
What if we showed them that,hey, we can reconnect your

(29:05):
children with nature, get themback outside and away from a
screen, help reduce their stressand anxiety and mental issues
by connecting them to the earth,teaching them how to care for
something right Care for yourfood forest, care for that plant
that's alive, teach you alifelong skill, right, and what

(29:29):
does that do for the futuregenerations?
Another big thing that we knowis that recidivism is a massive
problem.
Right that's, someone goes toprison, they re-offend, they go
back to prison.
Recidivism is a massive problem.
Right that's, someone goes toprison, they re-offend, they go
back to prison.
Recidivism on average in the USand this is according to some
very large studies I canactually send this to you so you
can read it later is about 60%,right?

(29:52):
So, out of 10 people, six ofthem go back to prison.
Here's what happens, though ifyou introduce food growing
solutions into the prison systemit plummets to under 10%.
Why?
Why does that happen?
Well, it's the same things Isaid around the kids.

(30:14):
It gives them a chance to getback into nature, reduces stress
Mentally.
It helps them.
It also gives them something tolove and care for and purpose
and when people have purposethey're not the same as far as
their behavior Correct Right.
There's an organization inOakland, california, that had

(30:37):
one of the highest recidivismrates and they've created a
program there.
It's called Planting Justice inOakland, california, that had
one of the highest recidivismrates and they've created a
program there.
It's called Planting Justice,and this place is a large
community nursery and growingfacility.
It's all outside and they takein ex-cons and they've never had

(31:01):
someone reoffend and go back toprison.

Dai Manuel (31:02):
That's incredible.

And it has everything to do with connecting
them with something to care foragain.
Purpose passion, love, right?
Yes, Wow.

Dai Manuel (31:14):
Oh my goodness.
Plus also the nutrition fromeating food that you yourself
can nurture.
I mean, there's something tothat, just dude.

There's some fascinating things with that.
If you put a seed in your mouthbefore you plant it, it will
become right.
It starts to become alive assoon as the water hits it right.
But now it's encoded with whatdo you need and it will.
If you're the one that caresfor that plant, it will produce

(31:44):
for you.
Wow, really, the brilliance ofnature.

Dai Manuel (31:51):
I like it.
Yeah, it's pretty, pretty smart.
I mean, it's done a pretty goodjob, a lot better than we've
done as human beings on thisplanet.
I'll tell you that.

So I just want to tell you get in the way we
absolutely do, and that's one ofour major problems is we act
like we're separate from nature.

Dai Manuel (32:14):
Yes.

Meanwhile, we actually are nature, we are one
with nature, and if we startbehaving that, we are that and
we care for this brilliant thing, right?
We've all heard of the Gardenof Eden, right?
Whether you're religious or not, you've heard that term, and

(32:39):
that is really what is here forall of us.
We just have to stop fightingit and start working with it.

Dai Manuel (32:48):
Oh, okay, All right, Let me ask you this, Matt,
because I know I've got to askyou this.
I got to ask you this becauseyou know this show is all about
change.

Yeah.

Dai Manuel (32:57):
It's all about change.
I mean, at the end of the day,for anybody to, for anything to
happen, especially around a lifeimprovement, it involves change
, right, yes, and so change isusually resistant.
Let's be honest Most of us, likewe wake up in the morning we're
like I want more change today.
Thank you very much, like comeon.

(33:21):
It doesn't usually work thatway, so we're often very
resistant to the change,especially when it involves
lifestyle adjustments, and youand I know this better than most
based on our fitness and healthbackgrounds.
Right, uh, and, and I guess youknow.
If it involves lifestyleadjustments and that's where the
change needs to happen, youknow, what advice do you have
for people who are hesitant tomake some of the changes that
we're talking about today?
You know cause?
It involves changing how youbuy, changing how you eat, but,

(33:44):
most importantly, changing howyou think.
And that isn't easy and I canimagine it's that adoption.
That's the most challengingpiece right now for you is just
getting the traction to get morepeople adopting what we're
talking about.
And so I'd love to hear yourthoughts on this Cause I know
you're dealing with people andhelping them embrace this
lifestyle, but I imagine itcan't be easy for everybody and

(34:06):
there's probably just a certainamount of people that are like,
hell yeah, I'm first in becauseit was easy for them to say yes
to this, where the rest of uswere like, oh, I don't know, man
, I don't know how I can do this, and I know we can all do it.
I know I can do it.
I'm actually excited about whatyou said about a green wall.
I'm like we're gonna talk toyou know, christy, my wife and
I'm probably I'll plant the seedpart of the pun with her.

She'll figure it out so, yeah, but that will, and
I've got some good resourcesfor you in that way.
Yeah, I've got a company calledthe harvest wall.
They produce cold walls.
You can grow incredible amountsof food.
It's nice and simple.
Self-watering, run from an app,grows in a soil.
It's powerful.

Dai Manuel (34:45):
It's all about the rest of the people out there
right now.
You just handled my objection.
Now we've got to handleeverybody else listening and
watching.

You're bang on.
People think it's complicatedand they have reasons why.
We've already reviewed thatstuff.
It is simple, okay, simple.
It's not easy, but it's simpleand it's about getting a design.
Whether you do that with us,you do with somebody else.
Learn about what permacultureis and again, you can lean on an

(35:15):
expert.
You don't have to have thedesign experience to build your
home.
You can lean on the experienceto build your home.
You can lean on the architectto design your home and then you
can pay somebody to bring thatto life for you.
This is the same.
The financial resources aredirected in two places.
One is the installation.
Is the design?
Sorry.
Get the design, the foundationfor what you're going to put in

(35:37):
your property.
Two, you have choices.
Once you have that design, youcan DIY that install.
You can bring that to a locallandscaping company or a nursery
and work with them to bring itto life.
You can work with us and if youwant to work with us, you can
also be involved in it if youchoose to.
If you say, hey, food Force toRunners, we'd like you to

(36:00):
install this, you could tell us.
Yeah, we'd also like to help onthe install days and it's going
to be my wife and I and one ofour children, and we're willing
to contribute 15 hours total.
So now you save some money onyour labor costs and you learn
by getting some of thatexperience from a professional.
But again, truthfully, most ofthis stuff can be done diy,

(36:26):
because it is digging a hole andputting some stuff in the
ground right.
It's less complicated thanpeople think and the reason why
they think it's complicated isbecause they think only a farmer
can grow food right rightconditioning and we're not

(36:46):
saying you grow food.
Farmers don't grow food eitherother than in our current system
.
They have to be heavilyinvolved because they need so
many chemicals and resources andthings right.
But who grows the food?
Nature grows food.

(37:08):
Nature does all the work if youdesign it the right way.

Dai Manuel (37:15):
I just feel so excited about this, only because
it's just that optimism that itfills me with.
I just feel so excited aboutthis and I want because it's
just that, that optimism that itfills me with that.
You know enough people get onboard with what you're talking
about.
And this vision is the worldcan change and it doesn't take
long for nature to correctitself.
One thing that I think we'vewe've all learned is because our
bodies are the same you keepgiving a crap.

(37:37):
It's going to let you knowyou're giving it crap.
It's going to let you knowyou're giving it crap.
And it actually gets to a placewhere you stop feeding it crap
and start doing somethingdifferent.
It's amazing how quickly ourbodies will recover or recoup
right and we're just again areflection of nature, so let me
talk a bit.
Ask you just about this,because I think this is really
part of your vision as welllet's just say you know, you

(38:03):
know what, forget it.
I just want to ask you, Matt, topaint a picture, like your
picture, matt's picture, youknow, of the vision for
sustainable living and foodproduction that you see for not
only Canada but really the world, because I know that you're
tackling a lot of big problemsand there's a lot of obstacles
but, more importantly, a lot ofred tape that you got to get
through.
I know there's a lot ofbureaucracy, a lot of lobbying,

(38:25):
because there is a lot of statusquo and those are big machines
that are operating, as you said,the mighty dollar does often,
you know, it influences votes,but it also influences laws and
legislations and regulations,the way we even are allowed to
grow.
Yeah, it's wild, like I've seenpeople want to put these little

(38:47):
, you know, certain places intheir homes, or they want to do
a little bit of renovatingaround the house.
I mean, it's permit nightmare,right.
So I know that there's a lot ofthings that you're trying to
overcome, but once we getthrough those things, like, what
does the world look like?
What is the vision that you areyourself, are wanting to create
, not only for your own kids,but your kids, kids and kids,

(39:07):
kids, kids, generations?

Outstanding Kind of two core things.
One I believe we can build alocalized, decentralized,
poison-free food supply Allacross the earth right.
Locally, decentralized, growingin everybody's yard.
Whatever they can do forthemselves, we've got a

(39:29):
localized, poison-free foodsupply.
The second piece is foodforests at schools.
So we want to take portionright.
So it's EarthCare, peoplecare,reinvesting back into EarthCare,
peoplecare.
So we want to be taking moneyfrom every food forest design
that we do and installation andredirecting some of that to

(39:51):
putting food forests at schools.
Because at schools we now havea teaching tool for the kids.
We now are providing the, theschool, with a demonstration
location so all those kids geteducated.
But their parents see the localcommunity sees right, so it
helps speed up adoption in thatregard.
But there's also the benefitsof this healthier food, better

(40:15):
performance in school, all ofthat stuff.
And now we're impactinggenerations because we're
teaching the children aboutwhat's possible here.
So those would be our two kindof core things is localized,
decentralized food supply,empowering the population to
take that back, and then kids,focusing on the children.

Dai Manuel (40:38):
So simple.

Yeah.

Dai Manuel (40:41):
You know, so simple, and especially the education
piece, Cause I mean, it allstarts with education, but I
still remember my kids cominghome even from like preschool
and kindergarten, right, andeven grade one and then beyond,
coming back and just sharinginteresting things that they
were learning in school, thingsthat I knew nothing about, you
know.
So there is, I can see how thiswould work really well, but

(41:04):
also, I mean, it's the kids thatwe need to really empower, you
know, because I want to givethem the keys, because, honestly
, I think they'll do a muchbetter job at driving this thing
than we've done.
Um, but, all that being said,I'm I'm very optimistic because
there's people like you in thisworld that are making big
changes but also putting theright resources in front of

(41:26):
people and also letting us knowthat we can do this, we can do
this, I myself can do this.
Listen, matt, I'd love to justknow for you, specifically when
it comes to doing this kind ofwork, what is your number one

(41:50):
wish for the people that arelistening to this today?
You know, because I know we'vecovered a lot of topics.
We've talked a lot about thisidea of sustainable agriculture,
but also empowering people toreally start reclaiming some of
that ability to make this poisonfree foods for themselves.
And like, what would be your,your thought for showing up on a
podcast like this?

(42:10):
Like what is there a message orsomething that you'd really like
to share with people?
Because why I'm doing this andI don't normally do this with
guests but I like what's thedirect invitation that you would
like to ask people to enact onbased on what we're saying today
, cause I like what's the directinvitation that you would like
to ask people to enact on basedon what we're saying today,
because I know it's theresources and the education
piece that if we can get more ofthat in front of people, I know
things are going to start tochange, because you can change
how people think you're going tochange the world.

(42:32):
Right, so tell us what, what,what would you recommend for all
of us to get started movingtowards this vision that you've
just shared with us?
Because I I think it's a visionand it's one we're chasing for.
I want to know how can I dothis, how can I get started, how
can I do this for my kids'generations?
How can I start to beaccountable for this vision?

Yeah, one is although the problems of the
world seem increasingly complex,the solutions remain
embarrassingly simple.
Hold on, okay, yeah, and fromthere I would say let's find out
what is true for you.
Meaning we offer what we call astrategy session, where you can

(43:16):
meet with a designer, doesn'tcost you any money.
We can look at your propertywhere you live, figure out
here's what's potentiallypossible at your place.
From there we can help you withother resources to learn
further.
Most people have the sameblocks.

(43:36):
They're the blocks I'vementioned numerous times now.
They're not a farmer, theydon't have a green thumb.
They don't think they can do itright?
Yeah, because they fight nature.
So let's help you see aroundthose blocks by having a
conversation with someone who'san expert in permaculture takes

(43:58):
30 minutes of your time.
You can discover what'spossible, right, what's true for
your particular piece ofproperty, and from there you can
then move on to the nextdecision, which is am I going to
do this and get a design?
Am I going to go learn aboutthis myself and do it myself?
Am I going to go find anothercompany and get a design?

(44:19):
We don't care, as long as youwant to move forward in some
capacity.
That's our number one objectiveIs we want to help people
realize what's possible and thenadopt whatever capacity of
what's possible into their ownlife.
And let's stop fighting natureand poorly using our resources

(44:45):
and let's flip it all on itshead.
Let's work with the brillianceof Mother Earth to care for what
Mother Earth can provide andlet's be the beneficiaries of
all of that good stewards of theland.
Right, we don't own any of this.
When we're gone, it's going tobe passed on to somebody else.
Right, we don't own any of this.
When we're gone, it's going tobe passed on to somebody else.
Right?
The earth doesn't care that webuild a massive city.

(45:08):
Kick the city out and within acouple of years, that city will
be completely green, completelyoverrun with nature and wildlife
.
Right, because nature isrelentless.
So let's get to work withnature.
Let's go produce abundance.
Let's inspire the futuregenerations.
Let's give them a chance toreconnect and get out of the

(45:31):
concrete jungle for a second andreconnect with the energy and
brilliance of mother nature togo and produce us an abundance
of food that could dramaticallytransform our brains, our energy
, our vitality and our life, sothat we can create a better
world for everybody hell to the.

Dai Manuel (45:50):
Yes, oh my gosh, I freaking love it.
I'm like getting goosebumpsjust thinking about what's
possible.
But also you know it's funny Isort of shared with you, matt,
that christy and I have this.
I don't know if I've reallybeen open about it publicly.
This might be the first timethat the listeners are actually
hearing this, but Christy and I,we have this, this desire, you

(46:11):
know, once our kids are doneschool, we got one more almost
done and we want to just get alittle parcel of land put up, a
couple of little A-frames orsome tiny homes, you know, make
it like a sort of mini, uh, likea retreat center, but really
it's not really for retreats,it's more for our own personal
retreats.
But, but, but we want to liveoff the land, you know.
And and when I first talked toyou and I told it to Chris, this

(46:34):
is awesome, you know.
So it's like you've just helpedus see our vision in
Technicolor, you know, it's likeit's really cool to see what's
possible.
And and I just have to saythank you, because I know that
with the content that you'reputting out, the podcast that
you continue to go on, and thisnarrative that you're now
inviting all of us to be anactive part of it's making a

(46:56):
difference, man.

Yeah, thank you.

Dai Manuel (46:58):
It is, and I think it's huge because I mean, we all
got to eat, we all got to drinkwater, so we might as well
figure out those two thingsprimarily.
You know like, and I'm like,we've got enough technology, we
got enough science, we, we cando this, people, we can figure
this out.

You know like, yeah, come on, Well and think
about this.
The mainstream narrative ishumans are going to die because
of climate change, right?
We're destroying our world, solet's stop and think about that
for one second.
If that's truly what theybelieved, why are we still

(47:33):
shipping my avocado 3,000 milesthis way and another 1,000 miles
that way, right?
Or whatever it is that I'mbuying that doesn't come from my
local area?
We are shipping food in massaround the world and multiple
sometimes multiple directions,because we ship it one place to
be processed and ship it back toanother place to be packaged at

(47:54):
another place before it hitsyou, Right?
So if we believe this narrative, why aren't any of the people
screaming at the rooftops goingwe're destroying our planet?
Why aren't they saying youshould be growing food at home?

Dai Manuel (48:09):
so true, oh, my gosh .
Yes, you're right.
You're right, and uh, I knowthere's lots of big issues in
the planet.
I know, at times we all feellike gosh, what can I possibly
do?
But that is the ongoing thoughtthat holds us all back as a
society.
You know, uh, we just got tostand up and start doing
something, and it doesn't take alot.

(48:30):
No, take a lot.

No, if we all took, if we all took self
responsibility for things thatwe can control, how different
would things be?
Right control.
How different would things beright If I stopped relying on
somebody else for my food, if Istopped relying on 100% right or

(48:55):
50% or whatever that number isfor you.
Now you've got some empowerment.
What does your confidencechange to right?
I bet if you went and askedevery homesteader who is
producing their own energy,capturing their own water,
producing some of their own food, their confidence in an
emergency is much higher thanjoe living in the condo who has
nothing in his cupboard extraright.

(49:15):
He's got no extra food, he'sgot no energy.
He's got no extra water,nothing.
He's completely dependent onother people for his basic
necessities and if the powerhappens to go out for 10 days,
joe's grocery store is out offood.
In three days joe's fuckedpardon my life right best way to

(49:38):
say it, yep, and then joebecomes desperate and desperate
people do desperate things, andI'm not trying to scare people,
but let's think about thesethings rationally.
These things are all possible.
I live in Ottawa.
Ottawa had an ice storm thatknocked the power out in many
places for seven days.
Right, that's a significantamount of time, uh-oh.

(49:59):
Right, that's a significantamount of time, uh-oh.

Dai Manuel (50:05):
It's wild to see how volatile we truly are in the
face of a disaster Right.
I remember we had the bigfloods here in BC, a couple of
years ago.
Yeah, and it totally blockedoff a huge portion of the
population, also without power,but also without access to
anything to get food in oremergency supply, and it was
crazy also without power, butalso without access to anything

(50:25):
to get food in or emergencysupply and it was crazy, you
know, it was like literally itwas, it was just it felt like a
third world incident thathappened here in Vancouver,
which is obscene, you know like.
But you realize, as much as wethink first world, we don't have
any problems.
Oh man, do we have some, uh,some blind spots, you?
Know, and I think COVID andsome of these natural disasters.
They definitely helped showthat.
But here's the one that we'remissing and it's right in front

(50:47):
of our faces the climate issue.
You can't deny it.
There's a problem here, people.

We've been hurting our environment for a
long time.

Dai Manuel (50:56):
Long time, long time .
I thank you for not only thekindness through which you talk
today, because I think it's it'sreally easy to feel a lot of
guilt as well as some shamearound some of the subjects that
we're talking about today.
I know that I've carried someguilt myself, just thinking back
to, like what have I reallydone that's been good for the
environment?
Yeah, I think it's easy to tryto be a pacifist and just ignore

(51:20):
it and just somebody else willfigure it out.

Yeah, exactly.

Dai Manuel (51:25):
Yeah, but I'm here and I'm also just as interested
in this subject and I'm doingwhat I can where I can, and you
know you coming on the showtoday and sharing about this was
just wonderful and I want tosay thank you for taking the
time.
I know I'm going to want itback because I know there's
gonna be a bunch of questionsthat we're going to end up
fielding on this subject, whichis great, because conversation
is what we need for change.

Yes, we do.

Dai Manuel (51:45):
Yeah, and, and I just wanted to ask you, matt,
before we go today, you knowwhat?
What are you most excited aboutright now with this project
that you're on?
Because I think it's superexciting, but what's what's the?
Most exciting part, or what areyou guys working towards right
now in the next few months?

My most exciting piece is we're working on
building what we call FreedomFarm Academies and, to keep
these things really simple, youcan think about them like
physical demonstration locations.
Think about it like an Applestore of self-sufficiency.
It's a place you can go see allof these different things in

(52:22):
action from the food productionsystems, from the permaculture
to the vertical growing, to thewalls, to the aquaculture, etc.
To the solar energy and thewind and the geothermal and the
water energy and capturingrainwater and atmospheric water
generation and that kind ofstuff.
And then also we brought in thehealing technologies and

(52:44):
products, because we believethat we can help people be
self-sufficient on all of thoselevels.
We can help them with food,energy, water and healing.
And the part that we had toclose is that knowledge gap.
Right, because people don'thave a reference point.
Right, when they think aboutgrowing food, they see that

(53:04):
monoculture farm.
So it's like how do we get themto see something different?
We got to send them to walkthrough a food forest.
So we're building these FreedomFarm Academies to be these
physical demonstration locations.
We've now actually sold 20 ofthem.
Wow, we have four continents.
Well, I guess four countrieswere in Thailand.

(53:27):
We have Thailand, one in Ghana,in Africa, two in Canada and
the remainder are spread acrossthe United States.

Dai Manuel (53:35):
Holy.

This is now where a person who's got zero concept
, who thinks maybe, when I sayoff grid, they go, ah, a little
cabin in the woods with nothing,yeah, right, that's their
reference point.
Or I say growing food, they go,ah, little annual garden my mom
used to have one of those.
She slaved away all summer andnever produced very much, maybe

(53:59):
some tomatoes right, yes, ifthey get to go and see this,
they get to walk through it andthey get to see that the home is
all powered by the sun and theyget to see that they've got
rain captured all over the placeand a pond full of 15,000 fish
and they've got a food forestthat's producing thousands of

(54:22):
pounds of food a year.
And they try that food and theygo oh my gosh, I just picked
this and the life force, energythat I just got.
When I ate that thing fresh offa living plant it was still
alive I feel different, ittastes different.
I'm going to implement this inmy own life in some capacity.
I'm going to put a food forestin.
I'm going to get a small solararray and I'm going to implement

(54:43):
this in my own life in somecapacity.
I'm going to put a food forestin.
I'm going to get a small solararray and I'm going to whatever
Right.

Dai Manuel (54:47):
Put in my cold plunge and my sauna and I'll be
living up the land Exactly.

And that's what I'm most excited about, because
we're now getting more peoplewalking through and experiencing
these things.
I have a goal of 10,000 FreedomFarm Academies built in the
next decade.
Hell yeah, that could be one inevery city across the world.
And what would happen.

Dai Manuel (55:10):
Every city needs one Every city needs one.

And what would happen if we did that right?
We'd be able to build theseabundance-focused communities
instead of scarcity-focused.
Right?
I don't have enough so I can'tshare with you.
But if you flip that all in itshead, I produce some here and I
can show you how to producesome there.
Now we both have.

(55:33):
And then we can go startteaching other people right, and
I can take the plants that aregrowing on my property and if I
know know how to do this right,I can cut them, and every time I
cut them that's a new plant,Right.

Dai Manuel (55:47):
Yes, powerful.
I mean, I had a dream.
I freaking love it.
I just think it's such awonderful, it's more than a goal
, because I don't think of thisas a goal.
It sounds like to me a life'smission.
You know for you, matthew, andthank you for what you're doing,

(56:11):
but also how can we help?
You know what can people do tohelp?

Man, I would say the number one thing is for
people to do a strategy session,to actually go and experience
it, to learn about what'spossible for themselves.
Whether they take action onthat right away or not is
totally up to them, but at leastthey've had a chance to deepen
their understanding of all thisand think about it in a

(56:37):
different way, which can thennow impact those around them.
They can start saying, hey, Ijust learned about this
incredible concept.
I don't know if you've everheard of this before, but I
highly recommend you go and do astrategy session for yourself,
right?
If we give people that chanceto open their mind, hear about

(56:58):
some different ideas, that's thespark, right?

Dai Manuel (57:04):
That's huge.
That's I mean, that's howchange happens.
Right, it's one little ideagets planted.

Yeah.

Dai Manuel (57:10):
It's amazing how that idea can germinate into an
entire movement.
Oh it's, it's pretty cool, man,it's pretty cool.

Deeds of abundance.

Dai Manuel (57:19):
That's right.
Deeds of abundance.
That's also a cool thing aboutnature, man, you get the best
metaphors, and so, oh, ananalogy.
And so, uh, uh, listen, thankyou for being here today.
Honestly, it's been great.
In the show notes, everyone,just to reiterate, the links to
everything that we've beentalking about today is there to

(57:40):
get your strategy session bookedReally simple Click on the link
there.
It's going to take you right tothe page you can get scheduled
in.
They got lots of options tofigure out a day and time that
works for you, but take Matthewup on this.
I mean, that's that's.
Thank you for that offer.
You know I'm very willing tohave this conversation.
I also know your website, holysmokes.
There's a ton of resourcesthere as well, so that's also

(58:01):
linked to everyone.
And then also get to thesocials, where they have regular
content going out that speaksto this, and I didn't see I
might've missed it, but is therea newsletter sign up as well?

There is, yeah, there is a newsletter.
Sign up on our webpage yeah,and we put out a newsletter
every week with lots of greateducation and resources, yep.

Dai Manuel (58:17):
Again, another way to start helping is just to
start educating yourself.
So, so, grab the newsletter aswell.
And you know, matthew, I alwaysallow last words for my guests,
and so I've got a finalquestion for you before we go
today, and I guess you know, canyou let our listeners know?
Actually, you know what?

(58:38):
Let me refer to it.
I'm going to change my questionBecause I still think there's
probably people that arelistening to this or watching
this.
We're getting to the end hereand they're still like you know,
that's really cool, guys, notme, right, not me.
And you know, what advice wouldyou give that person who's just
starting to think about makinga positive change, not only in

(58:59):
their lifestyle, but maybe withthe gardening, maybe with their
food?
But we're talking about alifestyle change here, because
that's really what this is.
This is not just a little habitthat you're trying to change.
This is changing the way youlive life, and so for a person
that's just sort of on the fence, you know, maybe they like some
of the things they heard today,maybe they're like uh, yeah,
maybe for you guys, not me.

What would you like?

Dai Manuel (59:18):
to offer them.

I'd like to say thank you for keeping an open
mind, thank you for listeningthis far and hearing what we had
to say, and the seed has beenplanted in your brain.
So, although today may not bethe day for you, you're like
that front lawn that we stoppedcutting and in two years that

(59:39):
seed may germinate and sprout tolife and that may be your time
to move forward.
So thank you for being here andkeeping an open mind and
listening this far, and we'reready when you are.

Dai Manuel (59:53):
Oh, well said, oh, I like that invitation.
That's great.
Oh man, this has been so muchfun.
It's often just greatreconnecting with you, selfishly
speaking, yeah brother and I'mlooking forward to more
collaborations and opportunitiesto reconnect on a regular and
you know, before we go today,any last things you want me to
say, anything that I might haveforgot to ask you today.
Matt, I'd like to give you thestage before we say goodbye well

(01:00:17):
, man, thank you for having mehere.

Matthew Britt (01:00:19):
Really, that's the most important piece.
I'm very grateful for theinvitation to join you on the
show and for helping us get thismessage out.
It is designed to beinspirational, but it's
inspirational because we know weneed to do something.
Everybody can tell.
We know there's some seriousissues.
Today we see it with ourdivision amongst the population.

(01:00:44):
Meanwhile, we're all the same.
We all have the basic, core,fundamental things that we want.
We want to care for our kids,love one another, we want to
make sure we have our basicnecessities met and, ultimately,
we want community.
We want to feel good,experiencing our life, and we

(01:01:04):
have been fooled in how we'reliving our life right now.
We've been led to believe somethings that aren't necessarily
true, and we have an opportunityto take that power back and
start making small, incrementalchanges that will have a
profound difference for decades,for your kids, kids, kids, and

(01:01:29):
we can start now.
Switch our mentality from fightnature to work with nature.
Switch our mentality from we'reseparate from nature to we
actually are nature.
We're one with nature, and whatour religious beliefs or our

(01:01:50):
skin color, or how we choose todress, or what music, whatever
it is.
Those are things that are kindof irrelevant.
We're all the same.
We're all the same.
We all bleed when we get cutand our bodies will heal if we
let them.
Nature is the same too.
It will forgive us very quicklyfor the damage we've done.

(01:02:13):
It'll forget about it and itwill move on, especially when we
empower it, when we work withit, give it the love it needs,
let the soil rebuild, help themicrobiome grow.
It will very quickly begin toproduce us healthier and
healthier plants and medicinesand foods, fuels.
That can all come from this andwe can drastically change our

(01:02:36):
future together.
Our intention is to inspire amass shift in consciousness, but
it starts with one person.
It starts with that seed thatyou were here today to hear and
have planted in your brain andin time, when the right
conditions hit, just like nature, it'll sprout and take off and

(01:02:58):
you can think back to that timeit hit you and be grateful.
And you can think back to thattime it hit you and be grateful,
and then go about sharing withothers and inspiring others to
be open.
Plant the seed, get going.

Dai Manuel (01:03:11):
Oh man, Well said, Well said.
Oh, I got a great soundbitethere too.
It's awesome, man.
And uh, you know, I I just keptthinking you were inviting them
about this idea of change and Ithink matt just forgot to put
the two percent small changesdaily.
That's what he forgot that's it, but just remember it's.
That's that if you need toquantify, change two percent

(01:03:32):
every day is really good, yeah,yeah yeah right, uh, that's just
me throwing in a selfless plugthere.
But uh, with that matt, you know, man, it's.
It's been wonderful just to seeyou live in your best life, but
also inviting others to do thesame.
Keep doing that.
It is really not only inspiringbut motivating.
But also I just feel empoweredwhen I see the kind of content

(01:03:54):
you guys are putting out,because, for somebody that felt
very in the dark when it comesto growing things, especially
plants, I've had a lot oflimiting beliefs.

Yes.

And just in our few conversations, interactions with
one another.
I'm feeling excited to provemyself wrong on those beliefs.

Yeah, yeah, and I would have had the same ones.
Literally zero experience.
I had no concept of this threeyears ago.

Man, I just felt bad .

Look where you are now.
Yeah, wow, man, look where youare now.

Yeah, wow, man, thank you for being here today.
Honestly and I can't wait tohave you back, because we're
going to need you to come backfor some updates.

Also.

I can't wait to see you on that red dot, on that big
TED stage.

Yeah.

This is a TED talk, man.
If I haven't ever heard one,this is one, and I can't wait to
see you on that stage.

I look forward to being up there too.

Yeah, have a good one, everybody.
I'll see you in the outro andMatt thanks again for being here
today.
Thank you, Dad.
Have an amazing day, my man Woo.
That was an enlighteningconversation with Matthew Bury.
We've explored thetransformative power of
permaculture, the importance ofsustainable living and how we

(01:05:06):
can contribute to a healthierplanet by simply rethinking how
we use our spaces.
Key takeaways from today'sepisode include understanding
the difference betweenconventional farming and
permaculture, the incrediblepotential of edible landscapes
and the steps we can take tostart our journey towards
self-sufficiency.
Remember, it's not about doingeverything perfectly.

(01:05:29):
Making small, consistentchanges that add up over time is
the goal.
I encourage you to connect withMatthew and learn more about
Food Forest Abundance.
Check out their website atfoodforestabundancecom.
I've linked that in the shownotes and be sure to follow
Matthew on all his amazingsocial channels.
He's sharing some great contentnot only entertaining but very

(01:05:52):
educational on much of whatwe've spoken about today and
numerous other themes aroundhealthy living.
You'll find all those links inthe show notes and, as always,
your feedback and interactionare incredibly important to us,
so don't hesitate to reach out,share your thoughts, let us know
how you're making a differencein your own way and if you

(01:06:13):
enjoyed this episode, pleasesubscribe, leave a review and
share it with your friends andfamily.
Together, we can create aripple effect of positive change
.
Now, until next time, keepstriving for that 2% improvement
every day.
I'm Diamond Wall and this hasbeen the 2% Solution Podcast.
Thanks, as always, forlistening and I'll catch you in

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