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What's up? That's right.
You see the label right here, above, right here and you see
that it says right there. You know it is Red Dog and
friends because Chaz can't be with us again or Damian.
So you know what that means Anyway, let's talk about some of
the things about to happen right.
So Soraya, we talk about our girl Soraya herself.
You know the legend. Is she really still an icon or

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is she really just kind of trophy seeking right now?
We'll we'll talk about that. We're gonna also talk about GCW.
There's rain. Is it still the top top indie or
is other shows that passed it? And also finally, we're about to
introduce something brand new for you guys.
I'm not going to tell you right now what it is here because I
want you to hang around and check it out.
Also, you're going to get, you know, when you get a temp check.

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We're also going to get push andbury.
We're also going to get Damien'sdumb ass of the week.
You get all that kind of stuff and then you know, guys know
what to do. Tune into this because it's
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where we talk about all fun things because you know what?
Chaz can't be bothered. He said Nope, I'm not going to
be on the show today. I don't want to be on the show
today. And none of y'all going to make
me. So I said, all right, I'll be
the guy. And then, you know, everybody
else was like, sure, No, well, only one person.
And that's because he is my friend.
He is a guy. The only Graves that matters in

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the wrestling business. He sits right there, right next
to me. You see him his.
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better. All right, so with that being
said, now entering the ring, so it's not that now entering is on
hiatus right now, but we definitely didn't have an
episode out last week or this last week.
So you guys didn't get one yesterday.
So don't be alarmed if you guys didn't see one.
That's it's just, you know, I have to rebook interviews and
don't currently have anybody just yet.

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We're just working on it. Everything in my house is like
falling around me. I'm like, I can't move my chair
back. I don't know, like my sign was
like hanging down. I was like Oh my God, bro.
So anyway, Twitch, how are you? I'm OK, man, I'm OK.
I'm offended, but I'm OK. We'll get to that in a minute.

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Alright, well then let's hop through.
Let's start this off. We already know we want to start
with this one, one of our favorite segments that we like
to call temp check. For those who don't know what
temp Check is, Temp Check is oneof the Seas where we talk about
our hottest, our coldest and ourmatch of the week.
So Twitch start us off. Cliff, you start us off.

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OK, well hold on. First of all, you look so pretty
in pink. I know.
That's a great movie, by the way.
Don't don't put references out to like that.
OK, All right, so I'll start us off hottest rest of the week.
I'll be fair, man, Solo Sokola. I'm going to give it a solo.
I'm going to give it a solo because we have, you know,

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everybody wants to refer to that.
The SWOI don't care. I mean, solo made that solo
winning the US title was kind offly.
I don't care. I know we have a new Tonga
that's now in the SWO, the new bloodline, and I'm here for it.
I, I, I don't, I don't dislike it.
So I I will I'll put solo over my coldest wrestler of the week,

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though I'm going to be fair. He had one of the hottest
segments this week. But also, like there was no real
there's nothing to it, right? There's like all substance, no
substance. It was just kind of all bark.
CM Punk Samsung got there. Yeah.

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I mean, I loved I loved the Punklife.
I loved him coming out and doingthe rap talking trash made the
Drake reference, which I'm goingto be fair, kind of kind of
outdated. Yeah, it's kind of outdated.
Like, I, I get it. Like, I get why you did it.
I get why you said, I get why they had you write that or you
wrote that. And even if John wrote that with

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you, right? I I get why I was there, but
it's, it's kind of lost. Like, I mean, we we've been
talking about the Drake beef forover a year now and it's, you
know, that song was hot, but it's it's not, it's you kind of
caught it on the back end. Like if you would have caught
it, I guess if Randy Ort would have said it, it might have.
You'd have been good. Yeah, pre Super Bowl, yeah, it

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would have been fine. Even just like a few weeks after
the Super Bowl. Also fair, but meh, I'm not
here. And also you didn't win, so, you
know, there's that. I'm going to give it though, my
match in a week. I was going to give it.
There was a match on Dynamite that was actually really, really
good. I really enjoyed it.
But Cody? And.

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At Ansati, and I'll give it to them, Night of Champions.
That was the only thing I felt like was good at a Night of
Champions, by the way. So if that was the whole entire
event was cold minus that match,I would be OK with that.
I would I would agree, but I'll go with Cody and Randy as my
match of the week. I have no hottest wrestler of

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the week because none of you fucks deserve it.
My coldest wrestler of the week is Night of Champions as a
whole. That shit was boring as fuck.
I don't care what you said. I fell asleep after Cody and
Randy. That was the very first match.
That shit was boring. Rhea versus Raquel, boring solo

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versus Jacob. We had a feeling that Hakulio
was going to show up. He was on Smackdown or before
Smackdown went live. Oscar and Jade Cargill, solid
match. Weird pin for that ending.
Boring as fuck though. We still knew Jade was going to

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win. If you follow the story you know
where this is going. It's just all around was a
boring pay-per-view, PLE, whatever you want to call it.
So that's my coldest of the week, match of the week.

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So my match of the week was going to be Cody and Randy
because like you said, that shitwas fired.
Until this morning. New Japan had a televised show,
a televised special at that, called Revolution.
My match of the week is Hiroki Gato and Zach Saber Junior for

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the IWGP World Heavyweight title.
Zach Saber Junior beat the dog shit out of this boy to where
this match ended in referee stoppage and Zach Saber Junior's
new IWGP World Heavyweight Champion for the second time.
Shout out to him. OK, I like it.
I mean, and how you put Zach Saber Junior in the

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conversation. Right.
Instantly, instantly, you know, it's a, it's a classic.
I don't care who it is. I mean, I've seen him at
wrestling open, like he wrestled.
I think it was Ryan Clancy. I'm pretty sure it was fancy
Ryan Clancy and just it was a fire match to begin with.
But it's like there's so much like he, I don't know, he's one
of those guys that's like untouchable, you know?

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I mean, like anytime he steps inthe mat, like you're like, oh,
this is going to be good. I know the term gets tossed
around a lot, but you could havea good match for the broomstick.
I'm really convinced he could. Yeah.
I don't care if this is just because AW and New Japan have a
working relationship and they want to try and get him over

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there. I, I, I, I don't care.
I like you said, the moment you put Zach Sabre Junior into the
conversation, it's we're talkingabout banger after banger after
banger. Yep, and he's true.
And you know, he's the thing that's crazy about him is that I
don't he's so good at wrestling.Like his career just can go

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forever because he doesn't take any gnarly bombs.
He doesn't do anything like out of his wheelhouse.
He just is a very good technicalwrestler.
He is one of the greatest technical wrestlers of this
generation. Yeah.
Timeline that we're in, like, without a doubt, yeah.
Say you're Bryan Danielsons and and you're whatever.

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No Zach Saber, Junior. I will be fair.
I'm going to say this. I would have paid money to see
Zach Saber junior versus a all y'all out here are going to be
like, why not one Owen Hart? Oh yeah, and I know.

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Everyone, I'm here for it. Yeah, I'm just saying, 'cause
you know a lot of people. What about Brett?
Brett was best for his best was ever the excellence of
executing. Owen was a better technical
wrestler. Yeah, yeah, Owen was fire.
I don't care what anybody says, Owen was the better.
No, he was on fire all day. And I that's that's my pick.

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Don't worry, because yeah, yeah,yeah.
IA 100% man. I, I, I think I'll, I'll never,
I won't back down from that. But yeah, that match, you know,
back in the day on both in theirprime, like bro, I just.
Man, if you get a chance to go check out that that Gotham
Junior match, dude, it was pretty good.
I'll have to check it out. All right.

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Well, with that being said, let us hop into our debate topic.
Soraya, Soraya Paige, whatever you want to call her, right?
Is she an icon or is she a trophy seeker?
Here's the thing. So once again, this is a topic
that we kind of had handed to us.

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Not that I want to be not that Iwant to take away from Chad.
This is actually a good this is a good debate topic, right?
So so right truly has earned thetitle of icon or she just kind
of trophy seeking, trophy seeking, seeking, clinging on to
the past. So reason why is because after
calling yourself an icon on social media, sorry, sparks and
backlash from fans who questioned her current in ring

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value. So is she hanging on to the past
or is she really kind of still one of the dominates?
And Twitch start us off with this one.
To be completely blunt and honest, I didn't know she was
wrestling again. I know she showed up in AWA
couple like a handful of times and shit like that but I didn't

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know if she was still under contract with them.
I don't know if she fucked off and went somewhere else like I I
wholeheartedly like I was. I thought Paige was amazing when
she was around in in the E the first time.
I think it was cool to see her appear back in AW after, you

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know, your neck getting jacked up like that.
It's always cool to see you comeback.
But I feel I feel like she is kind of clinging to the past.
Like yes, your career was cut short.
Your your in ring career unless you are back wrestling again.
If you have, I haven't seen anything of it.

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I were you great in the E yes, Iwholeheartedly believe that you
had some moments that that kind of put a black cloud over your
career. It sucks that you got injured,
but I like I said, I don't remember you doing anything

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since you've come back. That's been like Oh my God, did
you see what you did? So in my opinion, you're
clinging to the past like you you are a legend in your own
right, but icon that might be grasping at straws.
I can understand that. I can.

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I can, I can, I can. I figure your point.
I think for me, what it is, it'slike it's tough for me to say
that she's still an icon becauseshe definitely was when she came
through. Like let's be fair, like NXT,
she like tore it up, leaves NXT.She goes to the main roster.
She beats AJ the night after WrestleMania and then she

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becomes the new the new Divas champion and then she's moving,
you know, and then she has that thing with Paige and they go
back and forth or Paige and Paige and AJ go back and forth.
They teamed up against the BellaTwins.
They, you know, they did all like the stuff that you're like
the things. And she held it down for a
little while and then, you know,when the rest of the horse women

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came in, like she was kind of still like in the mix.
And then eventually kind of likestarted fading to the
background. And while I do understand your
sentiments of saying that she had some black, black marks on
her career, I don't really know if like, I would take that into
account and be like, yeah, that's that's that really is

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what punched, punched. Oh, I was, oh, I was aiming that
at injuries. Oh, OK.
Well, I mean even at that. You were aiming that out.
Yeah, no, I just, I just think like, there's some things that
just like, I think she was on her way out way before, like all
that stuff had happened. And it was only because, like
the women had caught up to her and they were like, kind of like

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surpassing her. And she was kind of fading into
the back anyway. You know, then she had the neck
injury and unfortunately, you know, it did cost her a lot of
time. And then when she came back, you
know, she kind of rushed back into it.
She got injured again. And at that point, like she had
to get surgery and I thought shedid a great job on Fox with WWE
on. Fox stage or whatever.
Backstage, yeah, she did great there.

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I thought she was like, I thought she found her, her her
niche. But then like, you know, that
show ended up getting canceled. So obviously she had to move on.
But it was like, I don't know when she got back, when she got
an AW there. Like there was excitement for
her to be an AW. She had a first match with
Brubaker and then it just kind of was like, I can't recall

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anything. That's what I'm saying.
Like she did the outcast thing, but like even the outcast like
it, it really was just pushing Tony Storm like Tony left, I
feel. And then what did outcast do
after that? I feel like the Outcast, and
this is no offense to everybody in it, I feel like the outcast
was just a knockoff version of the riot squad.

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Yeah, I mean, they did have RubyRiot in there too.
Yeah, like, and I like Ruby rides, so that's not a knock
towards her. Yeah.
Yeah, and then they they try to do the whole thing with Haley in
there as well. And like that whole thing kind
of missed. So I mean, she she she had about

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as good as a rookie year as you can have.
And then from there, I, you know, tough, let me say this
one. That was her best year, like was
her rookie year. And then from there just kind of
like just went out the window. Like and I understand like she,
like I said, she was able to hang and bang for a few years
like in the WWE. But like after that, like sorry,

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like I don't know if I would if I was putting like a top ten
women's all this together, I don't know if I would have you
in the top 10. Are we talking all time?
We talking just the E? We talking what?
Well, both. I don't know.

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I mean, I'm I like. No.
If I, if I was, even if I was just saying the E like I don't,
I don't know if I would like, I would have to really think about
it. And it's it's tough because I do
like I do like Paige. I do like Surya, but I don't
know if I could, if I could honestly argue her into the top
ten. Like it's, it's hard because

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it's like you're already thinking like if you're just
just throwing names out, right? We already know the four
horsemen are, are in there's your top and you could buy and
however you want to argue them, that's in your top 4.
You know, AJ going to be #5 right, Somewhere in that top
five baby, right. Then we talk in Trish and Lita,
China. There's there's 8 right there.

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Then who else we talking about? Who else we're going to throw in
that that mix, You know, Oscar, Alexa Bliss, you know what I
mean? EO Sky, there's a lot of it.
I mean, yeah, I'm just. Kyrie and I'm and you know, I I
was gonna say re Ripley, Bianca Bel Air like, you know what I
mean? Like that?
Naomi. Naomi, Naomi, definitely.

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You know the Bellas like we already.
We're already in there. Like we.
That E brake right there we we might make a hard left turn on
that one. Well, one, I mean, not one of
them, at least. Nikki I.
Mean one at least. I I Nikki, both of them.
No, because like even if that right, oh, where we put Michelle

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Mccool, where we put we didn't even talk about Mickey James,
where we put Mickey James. Mickie James is easily in that
top five conversation. Like it's kind of hard to like
put. You, I apologize to AJ, but I'm
putting Mickey over AJ any day. Well, I'm just, and I'm just
saying like not even all four horsemen are going to be in the
top 4, you know what I mean? Like and you depending on how

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you where you're going to put it, like, yeah, so I just and
that's what I'm saying, like we've already named close to 15
people that we would put in there arguably around where
Paige would be. And it's like, and when I talk
about Layla, like, you know, Molina, like those are those are
other names that we have to alsolike consider especially for

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their era of like how they how they were Natalia.
Geez, man, I only want I don't want to be funny, but also we
got to throw it. Are are we thrown in?
Well, you know, Medusa also got to be thrown in there, right,
Alendra boy, whatever, like, youknow what I mean?
It's just like there's a lot of winging in there that we have to

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talk about like that are in thatsame category.
And we haven't mentioned like who Tori Wilson, like not in the
we hadn't even brought her name into it.
Stacey. Well, I see.
I don't really know Stacey for her wrestling.
I know her more for her like managing side of things.
OK, touché. Michelle Michelle kind of got a
ring and kind of hanged a bang for a little bit, you know, but

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I mean, like, and then are we going to also include some of
this this group that's coming upright from like NXT?
Like are we talking about a Roxanne Perez?
We talked about Julia, we talkedabout Stephanie Vacker, Jordan
Grace. Like, I know that their impact
right now on NXT isn't it's likeup there, but like, does Julia
and Steph Acker also get ranked up there too?
Because like, to be fair, I mean, they're not winning the

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the the big titles, right? But Julia is now the US
champion, the women's US champion, you know, Lyra
Valkyria. Like, are we throwing her name
in that same national country? So I mean, where does where does
really Paige like come? In top 100, Sure.
He's like. That's sad because literally

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like you just said, we listed off so many wrestlers that I
feel like if we kept going eventually her name is going to
pop up at like 89 or something like that.
And see, and that's why I was like in the E like and you guys
can give your opinions too. We we definitely want to hear
what you got to say, but it's one of those things that's like
damn, do like how many people are up and up and up and up and

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up and up on this on this list is insane.
So how do we, how do we battle this?
How do we, how do we fairly put her in that category?
Because at some point in time, we're also going to have to
mention the name that Chaz absolutely adores Intamina like.
She's a legend. We didn't even, hey, let me be
real in this whole time that we're listening, all these

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names, Beth Phoenix. For real.
Like that's what I mean. I'm.
Just like, where are we putting people at?
What are we doing? Like, you know, she's a, she's
in the she's in the Hall of Fame.
Like what are we doing? What are we, what are we really
talking about here? Like it's hard and it's not fair
because I understand like what she contributed to everything,

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but. Like life is not fair.
Life is not fair. It's not.
And even if you talked about herimpact in AW, like she was not
the needle mover. Yeah, she was not the needle
mover you thought she was going to be.
So not even close. It's it's yeah, sorry.
Like I your initial run, I woulddefinitely say yes was very

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iconic. But as far as going after that,
you had like you had one hell ofa rookie season and then after
that, like I it. Ended.
Yeah, couldn't name name anything else that you've done.
And that's unfortunate because Idefinitely, she's definitely a a
great name to have. But unfortunately you're not

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you. I don't know even know because
when you think about like the top ten names at least #10 has
to be the benchmark of where allthat is.
And I wouldn't even know who would put anywhere into that
benchmark of category. But it is not fair to to page
like could you imagine if we decided that we're going to
benchmark and say, let's say we did a top 20.

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And do we think Page is number 10?
Like in a benchmark, like in a benchmark situation, do we think
she's #10 no. And I was like, there's, there's
A and now even at that, I would even say Natalia would probably
be 1010. And you have and ask us.
She is the benchmark like that'sit like better than her, worse

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than her, like you. If you're better, then we'll you
know, we're going to put you up there.
But I just look, I'm like, Nah, bro, like unfortunately you're
not running anywhere. And I wish her the best.
I wanted her to have more success, but and if she can come
back to the E at some point of time, great.
I would love to see it. But right now like I.

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Don't see that happening. No, you know.
I don't need her. They don't.
They don't. This is one of those situations
where she came back to the E It's either somebody pulled a
favor or they're they, they needsomebody that's going to take a
lot of else. Yeah.

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And you know what's funny is they had already brought Eva
Maria in to do that, and then they washed her out quick.
Yeah, I, I unfortunately will have to agree that that is a
that is a thing that has to thathas to happen unless, you know,
she'd be OK like coming in and putting talent over like I can.
I can see that happening. But at this point in time, I

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don't know, man. I, I just iconic rookie run, but
I don't I don't see anything after that.
So there we go. Camera towel blurry.
Alright, so great. We've decided no.
All right, so let's hop into you.
Get nothing. You get nothing, you got to get

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the fizzy drink off of the ceiling.
Thanks a lot. What a whole Dick Charlie was
for drinking that. Fucking dreamy little prick.
Yeah, it was just like you was living in.
You was living in the hometown. You found the golden ticket.
Your grandfather who wasn't evenworking.
Like all of a sudden, he possibly my man was bedrid and

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was like, oh, look at me, I can't dance.
Like, yo, this whole time you'regonna watch around Grandpa Joe,
you should have been in the shopworking.
Social Security just caught you Sir bro.
Medicare catches up. Now they want all their money
back. Every dime.
Every dime And why was there 4 of you in the same bed bruh.
Awkward. All old people just living in

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the bed bruh wiling out. All right, hold on, let's get
into our favorite segment of thepodcast.
Is Damien's dumb as of the? Weed.
Hi, we already know who number 1is.

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I got all four. I got all four.
Amy M Yeah. Anyone who thought Night of
Champions was good and because Icalled it last week and I
haven't seen them. Dean and Mr. Golden.

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Let me put this one NE one, see who I got AI got a shorten the
word thought, so I'm just going to go ahead.
Just use the abbreviated versionof Thought THOT and he was good.

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Mr. Golden and Golden and Dean. All right.
And who was our fourth one? Was it was it Mr. Golden and
Dean or was it those two together?
Those two, those two together. And who was the last 1?
Then we had anyone in that champions, Damien, Mr. Golden

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and Dean. OK, can we talk about that?
I bet. Chaz or is he going to pass?
He gets a pass. He gets a pass to be fair.
OK, to be fair, if you guys are wondering, you know, we talked
about on the show before, you know, Chaz is expecting a little
one. They they went all hands on deck

(29:37):
because they thought something happened.
So they yeah, that's not that's why he's not on the show.
So we'll let him have his pass because of that.
Let me let me throw in. Yo, who I, I can't, I can't
throw them in here because I, I got to pay a lot of respect to,

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to the work that she put in on Power Slap.
Oh. Y'all you already know just go
now because I can't put her in for dumb ass little week because
she won has she lost and I'd be like yo put her in but you're.
A dumb ass for doing power slap.Nah man, she went.
Yo she I I I agree, but a that shit was crazy.

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That shit was absolutely egregious.
Let me be fair, OK, I'm up. I'm gonna put her.
I'm put her over. Even though, like, you know, we
might not see eye to eye on on alot of things, but a there there
just comes something, right? And I say for like CM Punk, save
a Batista, right, Brock? No, if you willing to step into

(30:42):
the Octagon or you willing to just step into like any physical
combat, right? What's Tom?
What's Tom's new name? Oh God damn.
It he's yeah. Die Jack.
Yeah, he's with die Jack now, but Tom Pest Pest Pestak, Will

(31:04):
Pestak. Yeah, we'll, we'll go with him,
but. Corbin.
Baron Court, normally known as Baron Corbin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, get into the jiu jitsu
and winning, right? Yeah.
So anybody who steps in there and also those who compete just
outside, right. So I'm, I'm just talking about
like Alexander Hamstone, Jordan Jordan Grace as well, you know,
doing the the physically fit competitions.

(31:25):
Like I I'm gonna give you guys all props.
So that's the same thing I'm gonna say here when it comes to
Hollywood. Hailey J right, winning at power
slap, right. Not just competing, but winning
like you talk about some of the hardest people to like to to
fight, fight against. Yo, I I will, I will give you
love. I'll give you some flowers
because like, hey, you know thatthat shit was lit and I saw I've
been watching you on Netflix watching the Netflix series

(31:49):
right. So it it it is one thing, but to
watch you go into power slap andwhen yo, and I know she not
watch this show, she don't care.Congratulations, I'll throw it
out there for you, though. It was a great win.
I was like, damn, she's that girl folded like a stack, like a
House of Cards, man. My girl took a step backwards

(32:10):
like Nah, it just dropped. But to put someone in in in that
fourth slot, I mean he hasn't done anything wrong, but I just
feel like he just Tony Kahn. I don't know why.
Anything though? I know, but he's just I.
Don't want to defend him but. He listen, you're going in there

(32:34):
anyway. I tried Tony.
It's just the scapegoat at this point.
Look, if anybody still has a chance of AW hiring them on this
podcast, it's me and I'm going to push for that.
I you know what I, I, I don't I don't doubt that all right, damn
ass of the week and he he's not going to win because we don't

(32:56):
have no reason to have you in there so I'm going to be fair
Tony, like you're in there because.
We have no one else. We have.
In there, we have no one else inthere.
Chris isn't really on our TV show right now, so we can't
really use Chris Jericho. He's there, so.
We just. You know, he's taking a break.
He's taking a break making people miss him.
You know, I I get it. Hopefully it.
Doesn't come back as flabby Jericho.

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All right, here we go. So the list is also you guys can
go through, vote for it, vote for who you want to.
It is Damian, anyone who thoughtthat Night of Champions was
good, Mr. Golden and Dean and then as well, last but not
least, Tony Connor is on that list.
So you know, it is what it is. Got their vote.
Put your votes in. I'm about to vote actually right
now, and I'm not going to tell you who I'm voting for.
I'm not going to lie, I don't know who to vote for.

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That's fair, That's fair. You know, this week might be a
week where we actually don't have anybody who who wins,
everybody loses. So I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go
that route. All right, let's get into debate
topic #2 which is fair. This is kind of weird.

(34:04):
I also, I don't know man, I, I understand this debate topic.
I just, I, we're, we're probablygoing to have a different view
of this, right? So let's talk about it.
GCW, right? So GCW game changer wrestling,
right? Is it still king or is it loses
his reign? So here's here's how it's been
kind of like brought to our attention, right?
Is GCW still true king of the independence OR has the throne

(34:27):
been taken? With the new indie promotions
rising and GCW facing criticism for overexposures and booking
fatigue, is at the top. Is it it's spot at the top?
Is it being questioned? Here's some stances that they
give away. Right.
So for a pro, GCW still leads the culture, innovates and
draws. The con is the product is stale

(34:47):
and the hungrier Indies are outpacing them.
Do we agree with this Twitch? To be fair, to be completely
fair, I don't follow much GCW anymore.
I do around WrestleMania time because Blood sport.
Yeah, but that's that's pretty much the only time I followed

(35:09):
GCW. Like I know people who have come
from GCW and people who work at GCW, but I I couldn't tell you
the last time I watched the fullGCW show.
I'll be fair, outside of the stuff with KJ right now.
You know, the one formerly knownas, you know, the man with the

(35:30):
the greatest tornado DDT. Well, Fuego, Fuego's not a thing
no more. So you know that AJ, that, that
storyline's got me kind of interested 'cause I love seeing
this new version that we're getting and I love seeing this
innovation that's coming out of it.
I don't think it's being outpaced.
I know a lot of people are like kind of they, I've, I've heard

(35:51):
debates about this. People are being tired with
everybody. And I don't, I don't know, I
don't agree. I don't agree.
I mean, I still see I see a lot of the same talent, but they're
always getting booked and I I dosee like some great things
happening. You know, especially with that
run that Effie has where like Effie is like defending the
title against a lot of differentpeople all the time, right?

(36:13):
I mean, we've seen him with ruckus at the Maryland show.
So big shout outs to that. You know, he's defending the
title gets a lot of different names and I I'm here for it,
right? A lot of legends that are around
the local areas. So I don't, I don't, I don't
agree that it's stale. I do agree though, that a lot of

(36:34):
other indie promotions are catching up and not surpassing
them. But they're closing the gap,
right? One of those companies that I
think about that I think is closing the gap.
And people are going to laugh, 'cause I, they're new to me.
But like to everybody else, they're, they've been around for
a while is NEW, like doing the wrestling like 'cause it's, it's

(36:56):
like tearing it up. And there's something to be said
about a company like that that can bring in big names too.
And then they can also like keepdrawing big names and big
crowds. So I mean, I can't, I, I don't
have to say no, right? I mean, I, I definitely see it.
FSW future stars of wrestling out of Vegas also pulls in a lot

(37:17):
of big names, right? So there's always somebody
coming around and you hear aboutyou hear about it a lot.
So I can't really lean one way or the other and say, no, I
think they're still kind of ahead of everybody, but I also
think that they're also closing the gap.
That's rich. And we talked about it last
week, you and I when we talked about, you know, Wrestling Open
and like they've been around forjust like Wrestling Open in

(37:39):
Massachusetts has been around for like 3 years.
And I know this year for the Rhode Island show, it's only
been a few months, but they bring in a lot of talent, like a
lot of guys and a lot of people that you know, and I thought
about you out there from that. If you watch it in AW, you and
something some WWE guys are former WWE guys are coming back,
right, are coming working. They're like die Jack is
definitely one of those things that come back and works.

(38:02):
A bunch of the kids in the WWEIDprogram go there, right.
We're talking about people like Bear Bronson that go there like
name after name, Wheeler Yuda, Chris Statlander, Willa
Nightingale, like those are all names that are coming out.
So they all go back to go wrestle at beyond.
So it's like they at at wrestling Open and and I say
beyond, but at Wrestling Open they're also there.

(38:24):
So it's like, I don't know, man.Like they, you know, they're
doing their thing and they they have been around a long time,
right? And GCW has been and Brad's
doing a great job with GCWI. Just, you know, one of their
talent is from Wrestling Open. Like Alec Price is there like he
works there. And then guys that also work at

(38:45):
GCW is like, you know, the miracle generation like so it's
like I, I see you guys, but these other Indies are starting
to catch up and, and pull ahead and you know, it's.
Only a matter of time though. Yeah, but you can only lead the
pack for so long. We know this everything.
Yeah. So it is.
It is what it is. But I love I love seeing it

(39:06):
work. So I I got to continue to put it
over and be like, yeah, you guysare doing great.
So. I like blood sport so.
And Blessed 4 just did a deal without AE, you know what I
mean? Like when you get people like
Shana to come in and wrestle andNatty coming in to wrestle like.
Carrie, where's? Carrie was the one dude, the

(39:27):
brother, the two brother, the Creed brother.
Burgess. Yeah, he worked, you know what I
mean? And then there's a kid from NXT
that goes there, Charlie Charles.
Is that his name? Yeah, he, he had, he had the cup
for a little bit too. Sorry.
I'm, I'm not great at remember everybody's names.

(39:47):
I just remember, yeah, I could point them out in the crowd if I
saw. But yeah.
So I mean, I, I feel, but there's, there's a lot going on
and I think GCW is still keepingup that pace.
And, you know, they're always putting on banger shows
everywhere they go. So there, there's a lot of
Indies that are closing the gap,but they're not there yet.

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So that's that's my $0.02 for it.
I give it a few years. I I'll be fair, I'd give it a
year or two. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I mean, Wrestling Revolver is
around the corner. It is like creeping up on them,
you know what I mean? And Sammy Callahan is able to do

(40:31):
with Wrestling Revolver and having all those talent come in,
it's been amazing, right? And to be fair, another one too,
right? He was a charity event, but
Ronda Rousey came to Wrestling Revolver to to work a match like
so I mean, they're pulling in some names.
So I mean like they can they canget it going.
So I'm high for it. And also my boy Matt Diesel is
also a wrestling revolver as well and I like it, so that's

(40:53):
why I'm supporting as well. Yeah, a little bit of bias in
there. Oh, 100 percent, 100%.
Well, I'll be fair to man. Like I like Price is a friend of
mine, at least I consider him a friend of mine and he's at GCW.
So I like I have I, I, I get to,I love having these connections
to like a lot of different talent that wrestle in a lot of
lot of different areas and it's just fun to watch them work.

(41:14):
So like. Man, I was just staying away for
a while with the promotion that came from Pennsylvania, but
they're in some struggles right now, so we won't mention their
name. They're going back though.
They're going to come back slowly.
Well, maybe not that promotion itself, but a lot of the talent
at work there is definitely going to.

(41:35):
Come back, the tournament that they put on will totally live
on. Oh yeah, 100%.
All right, so we'll get into ourlast, we'll get into our the
next segment before we get into our final one.
But I want to get into push or Berry, Berry, Berry, Berry.

(41:59):
I will be pushing first 'cause Iknow, I know what we're burying,
but what we push it first. What are we pushing first?
Yeah. That's hard.
Not for me. Give me Jade Cargill.
I was trying to, I was trying towork around that 'cause last

(42:23):
time we did Pusher Berry, I did all the women's wrestling so.
Right. No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm pushing
just Jade, OK? Just I respect that.
Yeah, actually, go ahead, go ahead.
I'm Brandy, OK? Randall.

(42:45):
I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this.
Let me get let me push, let me push black female wrestlers
because right now with Naomi holding the the money in the
bank, Jay, when the queen of thering Bianca's still a top talent
all around the all around the championship.
Yes, 140%. I'm here with it all you.

(43:07):
Ain't wrong, you ain't. Wrong.
I like. Yeah, let me go with that.
All right, well, let's go with with Barry.
How about that? Night of Champions Night.
Of champion. I knew you were going to say
Night of Champion. Bro, I'm sorry, like I it's
either I say Night of Champions or I say WWE's deal with Saudi

(43:29):
Arabia as a whole. Yeah, I mean.
I feel the same way about both of them.
It's fucking dumb. I think, listen, I'm going to,
man, it's so hard for me to say this because like, listen, if
anybody in Saudi Arabia listens to the show, it's not you.

(43:51):
It's not. It's not you.
It's not you. Y'all are amazing and y'all tell
like you guys feel it and IA 100% respect that.
Definitely to the core, but there is some things that have
happened that I'm kind of like ayo fuck.
That yeah, yeah, there are. There are some dark map dark

(44:14):
marks that hang over your head. Because like, I will be fair,
OK, the US and Saudi Arabia are playing and, and, and soccer.
Like of course I'm going to share with the US because I'm an
American and I'm kind of hoping that I want and obviously I want
Saudi to lose because they're playing America.
But I have no beef with y'all, Ihave no beef with the citizens.

(44:35):
I have no beef with anything outside of what your government
says. And I feel like that's my
problem. Like I want to bury the fact
that the WWE has two shows a year.
And now this year, in 2026, well, in the year 2026, the
Royal Rumble will be in rehab. And I have a huge problem with

(44:56):
that because when we talk about the Big Four, I don't like
seeing the Big 4 outside of the US And now that Saudi is getting
one of the biggest, the big fours, my favorite event, like
period. I have a massive problem with
that. I have a massive, massive

(45:18):
problem with that. And that that's what I'm at.
I I don't really get it. So we have to go to go ahead,
go. Ahead, my issue with Night of
Champions as a whole is Once Upon a time Knight of Champions.
Every single title was defended.Two titles were defended.
Two titles. Two, at this point, just rename

(45:41):
it King of the Ring. Just name it King of the Ring.
That's it. Like this is dumb.
We all know that the King of theRing champion, the King of the
Ring crown and Queen of the Ringcrown gets gets finished at at
the Salty Show. It's happened every time you've
brought it back. PS By the way, what happened to

(46:02):
those big stupid rings? Why didn't, why didn't?
Why didn't Cody and Jade get a big stupid ring?
Bro the ring, the title. Yeah, the title.
Where's the? Title.
Where's the title at? Let's talk about this.
But you gave him that giant fucking crown.
That stupid ass thing. Fuck out of here with that

(46:25):
here's. What my problem is like?
Just rename it fucking King of the Ring.
Just no. Just name it of the ring of.
The ring. There you go.
Of the ring. Of the ring.
Person of the ring, I think wrestler of the ring.
How about that? There you go.
Like yo, monarchy of the ring. I know that monarchy is already

(46:45):
taken. Like sorry but like yo.
I just. You'll find another name,
Parliament of the Ring. Parliament of the Ring.
I don't know what to call it because you can't, because like
the monarchy is already a thing.Like, and I listen, I know the
two who run call themselves the monarchy.

(47:06):
So if you were to, to borrow that name, you'd have to borrow
from them. But it's like, yo, I'm thinking
like you need to find something like royalty of the ring.
I, I mean, there you go. That's it right there.
Royalty of the ring because likeyou like, what are we doing?
Like, I don't know. It's just because to me, the
idea of it, right? Like, we're going to crown them

(47:29):
in Riyadh, We're going to crown them in Saudi Arabia because
there's a fucking king there andwe're going to crown it there.
There's not even a king, he's just a Prince.
No, but no, because that's because his there there is a
king, his dad. His dad does run shit.
I don't think he does. There is.

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There is a. Over here about the Prince.
We only hear about the Prince, but there is a king there.
There is a real king of Saudi Arabia, I don't think.
There is. I'm paying like hey, I don't
like keep. With this.
What's what? What?
So where does King of the Ring go next year are you guys?
Because you are definitely not going to London, let's be real.

(48:11):
You're not doing that used to all it used to be the Saudi show
was crown jewel. Yeah.
Whatever. Sure, why not?
I don't at this point. Whatever now it's now.
Crown jewel is in Australia. Which is it?
It's listen, there's no monarchythere.

(48:33):
That's not you. You might as well have had Crown
Jewel in London for all that matter.
At the point. What else?
Wembley Stadium. What else?
Yeah, no shit. What does the crown of champ
Clash of Champions right that's.Champions.
Is it, isn't it France this year?

(48:53):
Yeah. Like, yeah, I.
Mean that was a pay-per-view. How about this?
How about this? Hey, we don't necessarily want
to. We're not going to bury Light of
Champion. We're just going to bury stupid
names and stupid places. How?
About yes, there we go. That's what I that's that's
that's our bury. That's that's our complaint,
right? Like crown jewel should not be

(49:16):
like, I agree, crown jewel should be in a place where, I
don't know, jewels normally would be found.
Yeah, that or if you put it in Egypt, right.
I don't care if it's in Cairo, like put it somewhere where it
belongs. Right.
That is like known. We're having like jewels, clash
of. Champions.
I don't really mind being in France other than the fact that

(49:37):
they've never won a major war. That's why I was like, yo, keep,
keep When I think of when I think of clashes, I think it's,
I listen, I'll be fair. And this is going to sound very
probably dumb with me to say it.And this is very Americanish.
I think it's, I think it's Scotland.
I think Ireland, like they always be battling.

(49:58):
I I think that's fair. Yeah.
I'm not saying that you always battle, right?
But back in the day, let's be fair, there were some fights
happening, you know, and and I, I kind of like that idea of like
I, I love that that was the first thing that we said to
that, right? Like, but to me like I'm not
when I look at things that are happened.
Give it a new pay-per-view name.If you're going to do a PLE

(50:18):
whatever, I'm give a SH. That's a pay-per-view, damn it.
Yeah, if you're going to do a PLE in Australia, give it its
own name, give it its own thing,right?
It should just be like every, everything that you're putting
together should have its own thing.
And that's why I don't like the BIG4 moving outside of the US.
Like, and I get it, because let's be real, Endeavor, we

(50:39):
know, OK, you have the $3 billion in a hole and you're
trying to find your way out. So you're just feeding the
biggest events that you can to the biggest places.
Let's be real. That's the only reason why
you're back in Vegas next year. And it's also the only reason
why you're in Saudi Arabia next year, because they're just like,
hey, we'll pay you this much to hold this BIG4, one of the big
four. And you're like, yeah, we'll

(51:00):
just put it there. I promise you this though.
Put it there where they pay us retarded money.
Yeah, because I guarantee you this man, I don't think you're
getting as many people to travelto Saudi Arabia if you're
holding WrestleMania there. Let's be serious.
Let's be 100% serious. Everything's paid for your
tickets, your flights, your fivestar hotel.

(51:23):
Because let's be serious, I'm sure Saudi Arabia has nothing
below a five star hotel. Everything's paid for your food.
You can bring 3 friends. Are you going?
No, still not going. You can pay for it all, but no,

(51:43):
not coming, still not coming. I I'll be fair.
And I don't know how much validity was this in.
I don't know how much validity was in this real in this like DM
that I got, but I got DM the person A to go to Saudi Arabia
to wrestle. And I was like no, not coming

(52:03):
first of all this was right after the right after the whole
khashoggi thing No, I'm good I'mgreat where I'm at.
I don't have to go no constantlyI got AI got a passport already
I'm great I'm groovy bro I'm like I'm not good No like it
wouldn't like I'll be fair. It would have to be A and I will
keep it with y'all OK it has to be dumb money like dumb money we

(52:27):
talking like almost like 6-7 figure money like for me to go
Oh no it. Has to be 7 figures.
It has to be 7 figures, no? Like I, because if someone came
out, you know, it's like it's like, it's like the whole thing.
I'll share this too with y'all. Like my wife and I, we were
talking and we were talking about the billion dollar

(52:49):
question. You mean like, would you, would
you punch your punch your spousefor a billion dollars?
And I looked at her. I was like, absolutely.
I was like, we can split the money, but I was like, dad,
yeah, we married, but we alreadyhave the money.
So what? We and my wife looked at my
daughter and was like I would hit your dad for a billion
dollars, then I would apologize about it later.

(53:11):
Now. Yeah, just.
And then massive tomahawk steak dinner.
I'm apologizing. That's how you do it.
We just handle the food. I agree and.
Here's the thing. Your eye.
And one I prepared for you, Ruth.
Chris got got you. Not that you guys are sponsoring

(53:34):
this episode, you guys. All right, We're going to move
off from our push and Berry to our new segment.
This was something that we wanted to share with you guys
and I thought this was really kind of fun.
So a lot of people been doing this.
I wanted to get involved with this too.
So myself and Twitch are going to do a draft.
So we're going to do 5 rounds. OK, Actually Twitch, I totally

(53:55):
forgot to download this app. I wanted to download an app so
that we could flip a coin so that we could just get.
AI haven't told me to flip on my.
Phone OK, so I'm going to pull it up real quick just so it's
just like this. This is the money and the bank
draft. So here's how we're going to
break it down right? We're doing 5 rounds, like I
said, and you could call it too,because you're because since I'm

(54:17):
hosting this so if you wanted, we go 5 rounds.
Whoever wins the the pick, we get to pick, we're going to 10
names that we're going to draw who we think are the best money
in the bank. And then you guys get to vote on
it and tell us what you guys think.
So Twitch call it. As you can see, this is a heads

(54:39):
the best we can got you. The best we can.
Tails. O Cod is coming out that all
right, So with that being said, I got I got I got tails, So I'm
going to go ahead and the first person I'm going to take off
this list. You think you know me.

(55:01):
Let me get the first money in the bank winner Edge.
OK, I will take your edge and I will raise you carrying cross.
From Money in a Bank winner. Oh, they have to be.
Pretty. Yeah, they have to, yeah.
Oh, OK, OK. I thought we were picking like.

(55:24):
No. Winning the OK.
No, no, no, no. CM Punk.
It's a good one. I was like, I was like, it was
either going to be like the first thing was going to be Edge
or CM Punk. That was.
Like it was a toss up between punk and my next pick depending
on. Yeah, well, I'm going to take
Seth Rollins. OK, I'm going to take Cena.

(55:48):
See, to me, like I, I love the fact that you picked him.
I'm going to be fair with you, not even on my board.
Yeah. Not even on the board.
Not. Even on my board.
Hold up real quick. Yo, what's up?
What's up? What's up?
What's up? Derek, Let me go.
My third pick, right. I'm glad you took Cena because

(56:11):
this really helps me out. Let me get big E.
Oh. You bitch, what's my next pick?
Damn you. Alright, let me take.
Yeah, scratched his names out soI know who who's who's been

(56:31):
picked. This is hard.
Yeah, trust me, I was putting mydraft list together.
I was like, damn, this is going to be rough.
Give me. Give me Mr. Kennedy.

(57:01):
See, I like that pic too. And to be fair, it's not about
the cash in themselves, right? So that's not that's not what
we're looking at. But it is so hard not to be
like, yo, but the things that came off of this and when I saw
Kennedy, I was like Kennedy winning with so cool.
But I was like, you know, I got to think to myself, I was like,
but who else had a cooler cash in?

(57:25):
And that's why my, this is my 4th pick.
I got to go with Oscar because it whizzes so much.
And I'll and I'll explain. I'll explain.
I don't even though we don't have to, right?
She won, but she didn't really win money in the bank.
Like she won the briefcase, right?
She won money in the bank. But really like the next day was

(57:48):
raw. And that's when Becky was like,
Nah, here's the title and I'm going to go be a mom.
And I'm like, this is a crazy moment.
Like I still get goosebumps thinking about this moment.
So. That's no, that's respectable.
That's no, that's, that's definitely respectable.

(58:14):
Give me Dolph. See, I like that one.
So you took Punk Cena? No Kennedy doll.
Kennedy OK, alright. I like that.
I like that so far. Damn, that's crazy.
That's a great pick. That's.

(58:36):
A solid 1. That's a solid pick.
That's a solid pick. The so I have behind you, I have
15 names like I've written out. So now, like trying to choose
like who my last pick is going to be, it bothers me.

(58:57):
I just I just want to see OK, just because just because what
it did for her, right? I got to go with Liv Morgan.
That's fair. That is, that is honestly very

(59:20):
fair. Let's see.
This has actually been like. We're talking about we're
talking about what it's done forsomebody's career.

(59:44):
It doesn't necessarily have to either.
No, but that seems that seems tobe what we've been talking
about. Like the things that come from
from them. Give me Carmela.
See. Damn.
Give me Carmela. She's I.
Don't want to keep going now. Very slept on as as a funny in

(01:00:05):
the prank winner. Bruh, and when?
And I'll just never forget the Iconics telling Charlotte we can
take the title off you like that.
And they did. They backed it up and I'm like,
bro, that was so good because and it helped Carmela out so
much. And you know, you could talk
about the controversy that came with it like, oh, she didn't

(01:00:27):
really win it. Like Jimmy Want Jimmy got it for
her. Like James Allsworth won it.
And then. Like won it.
She went back and won it, yeah. So I have to agree, bro.
I kind of want to keep doing this, but I want to keep going,
keep going. I.
I got my next pick. Are you guys your next pick?
All right, let me get the miss. God damn it.

(01:00:48):
God damn, my next pick regardless.
All right, all right, give me the controversial Albert Alberto
Del Rio. Oh, that's a good one.
I'll put it into Alberto de Oreo.
We can go to 10. Whatever, I got it.
Let me get Brock Lesnar. I.
Forgot about that. Yeah.

(01:01:11):
Give me cane. I forgot king.
He cashed in on Rey Mysterio thesame night.
He did he did he did Where we atnow?
123-4567 All right, so we got 7 names.
We got three more rounds. Whatever, we can go to 10.
OK, OK, OK. I like it.
I like it. Yo, let me get, let me get Alexa

(01:01:38):
Bliss. Fuck.
OK, Yep. Solid.
Give me Naomi. Fuck, that was my next.
That was my next pick. I was like, he ain't going to

(01:02:01):
take her. He ain't going to take her.
I was like, let me get Naomi. I was like, I was looking at it
too. I was like, yo, there ain't no
way she's going to. She's going to fall to me like
this again. All right, then I, you know what
I have? I have, I have two of them.
I have one of them. Let me get the other Shield
member who won, Dean Ambrose. Fair, fair.

(01:02:28):
I will give you that. Since you won't give me both
money and black money and the bank winners.
Sharing is caring. Looking through my list of who I

(01:02:50):
got left. Right.
What are we at 9:00? We're at yeah.
So this is your 9th and then we have one more round.
Give me Rob Van Dam. That's a great pick because I
secretly was like, I know he's not pulling RVD, damn it, sneak

(01:03:11):
sneaking in. All right, I guess for my last
pick, Yo, I I like, I like this one, too.
I'm I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the other guy who cashed in
that money. Or at WrestleMania, let me get
Damien Priest. Oh, that's a fucking good 10.

(01:03:34):
That's a real good one. Alright, Nobody took him.
I'll take him. Give me Drew McIntyre.
I kind of was looking at Drew aswell.
Give me, give me Drew. You know who else I who else I

(01:03:54):
wanted to take? If this was another round that
we're going to continue, we're done by 10 by the way.
So you guys, I'll read back the names.
So I'm going to tell you guys who didn't who won Money Bank.
That would be I wanted. I was going to take Tiffy.
I was going to over Naomi, but the more I thought about it, I I

(01:04:15):
like, I like Naomi with this money in the bank.
So that was also pass up. Also, another name, another name
that we didn't take. Sheamus.
Yeah, yeah. Also, with that being said, and
also we'll read back to the answer you guys can pick.

(01:04:37):
We didn't take Bailey. Nobody took Austin theory.
Nope. Yeah, but you know what, man?
I'm going to be fair, no one took Damien Sandow either, and
I'm OK with that. I mean.
Or Baron Corbin, like Baron wanted to.
Braun Strowman. Braun Strowman Bra That was bra
we. To be fair, nobody took Randy.

(01:05:00):
We didn't take Randy. I forgot Randy wanted.
I was looking through the list and I was like making the name
of everybody taking. I would have put him in or, or
to be fair, Why Dolph Ziggler? Jack, I took Dolph.
Did you take it off? Oh, yeah, you did take it off.
I put Dolph in there. Yeah, you're right, You're
right. Jack Swagger.

(01:05:22):
Yeah. Can you remember what he did
with that? Because I can't.
Nope, I'm just saying he's another one who won it.
Yeah, I'm like Otis also won it too, and he lost it to the miss,
and then, you know, the miss cashed in twice.
Yeah. Which I was like, that's why I
was like, I wanted the miss cuz I was like, yeah man, that guy
these two time. I mean, technically it wasn't at

(01:05:43):
technically it wasn't at the money in the bank, ple paper,
whatever you want to call it, Daniel Bryan.
Damn, Bryan. Is a Money in the Bank winner?
He's a Money in the Bank winner he is.
It's crazy. It looks at this list of people
too. Oh yeah.
I forgot Randy Orton. Damn.

(01:06:03):
Randy Orton did cash in too and he won.
I was like Dang, and then held that, held that contract for 35
days and cashed in. Yeah.
Let's see who else was in here that I just.
I know I. Kane held it for like 35
minutes. He did hold it for like, you
know, I think he's the shortest one, right?
Shortest. Yep.

(01:06:23):
That was, you know, when he cashed in.
I was so mad. I'll never forget Otis.
Otis went in and drop losing it and I miss.
Otis was such a technicality like.
He just caught it. Yeah, that that's just getting
thrown at him and him catching it like pump in the air like,

(01:06:50):
oh, just calm down. Man Nikki, Nikki ASH.
Bro I I'm not going to lie, I forgot she wanted.
Bro, I remember her winning it and how she won it remember
because everybody was fighting for it and she's like crawled in
the middle of everybody. Like that was an amazing,
amazing moment for her too. And she only held it for one

(01:07:11):
day. She had the contract for one day
and she cashed in like the very next day.
I was very, very excited for her.
Very cool moment for her. We didn't say EO Sky, by the
way, but it's not like it's memorable.
Like, and I don't want to be, I don't want to say it like that
because she did a she's amazing.And she, you know.

(01:07:31):
This guy with the title now is better than what she held money
in the. Back yeah 100%.
I agree. I agree with that, but all
right, so we'll read it back foryou guys.
You guys tell us who you guys think has a better team as far
as money to bank winners go. I'm going to read off we'll read
twitch his name off 1st and thenI'll I'll read off mine.
So we're going to go with Punk, Cena, Dolph Ziggler, Mr.

(01:07:54):
Kennedy, Carmela, Alberto Del Rio, Kane, Naomi, Rob Van Damme
and Drew McIntyre. Or you can go with my team, Seth
Rollins, Edge, Big E, Oscar, LivMorgan, The Miz, Brock Lesnar,
Alexa Bliss, Dean Ambrose and Damien Priest.
So you guys let us know. Also cutting this putting up

(01:08:15):
there and then we'll have cool little graphics on the bottom so
you guys can see exactly how we came to these names.
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