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Yo, what is up? It's been a couple weeks since
we've been, you know, doing thisthing.
So now we're back. And what do we talk about today?
Well, we're going to talk about Naomi.
Man. Is she underrated still?
Has she under a spot? You know, we don't really know.
We don't. We're going to debate it out.
We're also going to talk about which was better?
Was it evolution? Was it all in?
It's been a while since we've been here, so we got to talk

(00:24):
about that topic. We also going to talk about the
over saturation with the WEPLE Saturday night main event, You
know, evolution, you know all the stuff that's going on.
You're going to get all that, plus you're going to get dumb
ass of the week. We're going to get us to get,
you know, temp check. We're also going to get push and
Berry in. All of that is going to be here
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Hey, I love it, I love it, I love it.
So for y'all, this is what we'regoing to do.
First we are going to go right into our show because we want to
do something called temp check. So for those who don't know and
now that you're here, we're going to talk about it.
So we have been gone for the last couple weeks and we want to
talk about temp check which is our hottest, our coldest and our

(05:10):
match of the week. So which what you got bro?
My coldest wrestler of the week is what we're going to start
this off with. Nikki Bella, just go away.
Just go away. How are you are the reason I
turned off Raw on Monday? Dead ass.

(05:32):
I know I missed. I know I missed Roman's return
because of it. I'm OK with that.
YouTube is a great thing for that reason.
Nikki Bella, you are my coldest wrestler.
You ain't got no business being back here.
Yeah, I, I, I mean, I could think of a lot of other cold
wrestlers, but my problem is, isthat if, and I, I addressed this

(05:52):
like numerous times beforehand, and I've kind of said it, that
if this was like if this was a dude, there'd be all sorts of up
in arms about what she was beingaccused of.
I mean, like, what are we reallytalking about here?
Like. We would have burned him at the
stake. I mean, just imagine if it was
anybody else that was out there and had had allegations of DV

(06:18):
like we would have, we would have called for that person to
be, I'm sorry, currently there'sallegations of a certain person
who got pushed out of the entirecompany and not even that
somebody else even just mentioned earlier this week,
Daniel Cormier, hey, what's up? DC said another individual who

(06:40):
also has these accusations that there's no real definitive
proof. There's just like text messages.
There's no. List.
He's on a blacklist. He's blacklisted from TKO.
Like what are we talking about here, man?
Like what are we really talking about?
Why does she get a pass? But she gets a pass because why?

(07:01):
Because he's a female, I'll say it.
I'm like Bryce, it's to me, it'sinsane.
And sure, you can say whatever you can be like, well, you know,
it's it's only allegations. And this said, no, somebody went
to jail. Like somebody went to jail.
People who were arrested. People who were arrested and it

(07:22):
wasn't her, it was him. But then when the real story
came out, it was her. And.
She's still and I still have a problem with that man.
Like it's I was like I I hate itso much that she and and listen
at some point in time, what I'd love to be able to interview
Bree, of course, like it would be great to be able to have her

(07:43):
on the show and talk to her all now during.
But there's just just me inside.I'm kind of like, bro, like you
y'all, like we're cool people. I like Bree, but like Nikki,
like I, I can't, I can't, I can't.
And I don't want to stand on a moral high ground and be like,
well, you know, just that. And the other.
But that really bothers me that she's on the show and she came

(08:04):
out for the Rumble spot and thenshe's back on evolution, you
know, and now she's being featured on Raw.
And I was like, bro, I don't, I don't want to deal with it.
I'm I'm good. I'm not here for it.
You. You legitimately made me turn
off RAW. I dislike you that much.
Yeah, I I, I would have to grieve.
All right, Well, that's, I'm agree with you.

(08:25):
That's my coldest too. I just, I'm not.
I'm here for it. Who's your Who's your hottest
wrestler of the week, though? My hottest wrestler of the week.
If I'm being brutally honest, I don't have a hottest wrestler of
the week because personally I think wrestling this entire week
hasn't impressed me that much. If we go, you've seen that too,

(08:49):
right? Yeah, I saw.
OK, if we go back two weeks, I believe it was give me Ludwig
Kaiser as America El Grande Americano.
We don't know that to be. True you God damn I will be God
damn if you can't tell me that ain't Ludwig.

(09:11):
Get the fuck out of here with that if.
We we don't know that. We know that.
We're just acknowledging it, notacknowledging it yet.
Yeah, if if that that just. I try so hard to not acknowledge
this whole El Grande Americano thing.
I think it is mildly retarded tome.

(09:35):
Thank God we have a disclaimer. She's right there at the.
Bottom I I, I like those that we're, we're switching it up
like, oh, Chad Gable was injured.
We're just going to Hey, random guy #55 come here.
Yeah, you. Can fill the slot real quick,
yeah. Ludwig for for hottest.
He's he's just all around a great talent and he seems like

(09:56):
he's down to do whatever you throw at him.
Yeah, my. He'll make it work too.
He will. Make it work.
He will. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My match of the week. So my match of the week is a
little different this week. If anybody follows other
promotions that TKO is involved with, you will know that UFC had

(10:18):
what I believe was 3/18 3:19. Yeah, somewhere, yeah.
Somewhere in there my match of the week is Diamond Dustin
Poirier versus Max Holloway. If you have watched that match
last night, fucking banger from bell to bell.

(10:39):
Of course that being Dustin Poirier's last match.
She is officially retired from the UFC and MMA.
Shout outs to him for that. You threw down.
Would have been cool to see you win though man.
Nah definitely definitely will not like he's supposed to
because I'm a Max Holloway fan personally.
I understand that but I'm not a fan of the BMF title.

(11:01):
I think it's it's dumb and we should just get that shit the
fuck out of here. Nah, I need that title.
I need that title. It's.
Only because who introduced it? If it would have been anybody
else that introduced it, I'd have been cool with it.
No, I see. I'm I'm not even here for that.
I don't even care that The Rock introduced it.
It was it was just that match with Jorge Mazidal.

(11:25):
And what was it, Diaz? Yeah.
Yeah, that was a that was a throw down.
Like we going to go to war and that's what we do.
And it was supposed to be a one off.
But then like Justin Gaichi and Max Hollis, like don't we want
that title? And like you couldn't ask two
other dudes who were just ready to to throw down, like to hang

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and bang and just throw hands all day.
So like, of course, like that's that works that them and then to
move over and see Max defending it against Dustin Poirier, Like,
yo. And to be fair, like Dustin had
beaten Max twice. So this is the third time
they're running from this. It's like, yeah, I kind of, I
kind of want to see it happen and.

(12:07):
It's cool. It's cool that Max got the
victory on on what would essentially be the rubber match,
if you want to call it that. I'm just as a Dustin Poirier
fan. Nope, I'd rather him went out
with his his hand raised high. I mean, I feel you.
But you know what? Like in a wrestling business,

(12:27):
it's your job to put over the next talent as you wrestling.
Motherfucker. This man, this man, listen, OK.
Like that's the job. You're supposed to put the
person over who's going to buildthe next the next years of
talent. Shit, Max Max definitely
building that TRO. Yeah, Max, Max Holloway is

(12:50):
definitely like he, I mean, listen, lightweight, middle
weight, like my man, just featherweight.
He's fighting everywhere. He doesn't care who it is.
He's fighting everybody. So I was like, yeah, I'm here
for it. Yeah, let's man this man just.
I will agree. I will agree with.
That Yeah, Yeah. Real quick, I just put this up
here. Boo Max.

(13:11):
It is Anthony, for those who don't know.
Yeah, he'll be commenting a lot since he won't really be doing a
whole lot of other stuff except sitting in a chair commenting.
Max looks way bad at 1:55, he really does.
But the problem is he like that's his walk around weight.
I think it's like 170, I think he said.
So for him to get down to like 155 and hang and bang with those

(13:34):
guys, it's crazy. But when he used to drop down to
145, that was insane to me. Wow.
Yeah. Yeah, so I like seeing that he's
at the 155. He looks a lot healthier.
He looks, he looks a lot better.And I I'm here for it, for him
to like, you know, be able to throw where he is.
He's a BMF weight. He is a bad man, bro.

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All right, so my hottest wrestler is wheat.
I would be fair. I want to give it to two people,
right? So I'm going to do A1A and 1B1A
is going to be timeless. Tony Storm.
I said it right, I think she didan incredible job at all in.
I thought her Mercedes had a great match.
I don't care what you guys thinkabout it.

(14:19):
It is what it is. Following up with this last
Wednesday where her and Athena were going back and forth.
I'm I'm, I'm ready for all of this, right?
Like I I love how she's doing. I love the character work.
I love how much she's getting over with the fans and stuff.
This is all this is all good stuff.
So I'm here for all of it. My 1B is going to be the person

(14:39):
who turned heel Alice or Black bro, like see, see the suit
again, like yo looking fly bro. I'm here for this, so I'm happy.
And then also we're seeing Zelena kind of transition to
like that heel side. So maybe we're going to get not
a reunion, but we're going to get another union.

(15:00):
We're going to get Zelena and and Alice Black.
Yeah, my match. You think she'll fill that Julia
Hart role if he's also like House of Black Stable I?
Kind of hope so. And you know, really what I want
is to see like the House of Black and WWE.

(15:21):
Bro let me tell you, I will become the biggest mark the
moment they bring Birdie King the biggest mark.
I don't give a fuck what any of you have to say.
Brodie King coming into Brodie King and buddy Matthews, like
coming into WE Oh my God, I'd behere for all of that.
And I was like, no, we and I, I will be fair.

(15:43):
I'll just say it straight up andwe gonna move the white 6 back
to raw because this whole on therun.
Fuck out of here you. Know I've been like, yeah,
they're in for the Mystic stuff.They're here for just punishment
and that's what I can't wait for.
I'm here for all of that my match of the week, man, I I'm
going to go to something that was last week and I kind of want

(16:04):
to talk about it right. That woman's gauntlet match for
all in was fire and I know we could put we could put up the
dudes, right. We can talk about hangman's
match with John Mossie, which was cool.
We can talk about the young bucks with Will Osprey and
swerve. But that gauntlet match, man, it
it was just kind of a thing thatI felt like it was just really

(16:25):
thrown together. But the women just, hey, they
put it down. I'm here for it.
I loved it. I, I, there's nothing else I
could say that's bad about it. So I'm, I'm going to, I'm going
to put them over. Then I feel like we also don't
do that enough. We don't put the women over and
I'm, I'm, I'm here for it. I was here for all those matches
and I felt like evolution as a whole deserves also be kind of
recognized with it as well. But like I'll say this, the

(16:48):
whole women's roster between AW and WWE over the weekend of All
in and Evolution held it down. That was the that was the that
was the best. And yes, Hunter, you should make
this a yearly pay-per-view for Evolution.

(17:08):
You would fucking think so. No money Wilding out to me that
it was not a thing that has happened.
I was just like how do we not make money off of this?
This doesn't make no sense. Like I don't get it.
Somebody's dumb as fuck. Yeah, so he's missing out.
All right, let's move over. Let's let's talk about it.

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Let's let's get into our first discussion point.
Speaking of the women's wrestling, we're going to talk
about Naomi, right? So at Evolution, she cashed in
successfully beating Rio Ripley and EO Sky for the Women's
championship. So she is your current WWE

(17:52):
Women's champion. I'm here for all this.
I've said it once, I'll say it again, I don't really care.
And I thought it was a proper cash and I thought it was a
great use of it, too. So you feel about her?
Do we still feel like she's underrated?
Do we feel like she's earned herplace?
Like where you at with this? I'm here for it.
I think she's earned her place, man.

(18:13):
But from from when she from whenher and Sasha Banks, Mercedes
Monet, whatever you want to callher when they left, she didn't
hop on the Internet, She didn't bash WWE.
She didn't, you know, she didn'tthrow anybody under the bus and
then they brought her back. She is a great talent.

(18:34):
She is down for whatever you throw at her.
From my memory, I don't think she's really injury.
I don't think she's had any, if at all, like maybe one or two,
but I don't think she's an injury perm wrestler.

(18:54):
She's not out here hurting people like and then 90% of the
stories you put her in, she excels it.
She's a great fucking wrestler. Say what you want about her, but
I honestly think she's earned her spots.
The fans are behind her. That Jade Cargill story with her

(19:14):
pushing her off into the car wasamazing.
Like. I I'm tired of people saying
that Naomi is is undeserving of the spot she's in.
She goes out there and puts it down every fucking week, and
that's not even including house shows.
Nah, I think what it is too is that like she, she, she

(19:38):
probably. And I when I say this, I don't
it it's it's meant with I guess I it's been what kind of love,
right? I don't want to say this.
She kind of had a stench to her when she left with Sasha, right,
and they left. They're just paying right, But
it wasn't her like to be fair, like what she was fighting for
was admirable, right? She wanted they wanted to

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successfully continue pushing the women's hag division.
WWE was like kind of giving up on the whole thing.
They weren't really going for it.
So they they bounced, they left.They were like, whatever, if
we're not, if we're not going toutilize this, we're going to go.
It made sense, you know? But again, she didn't say
anything. She just kept her nose to the
grindstone. She said she stayed out the
spotlight. We didn't even really hear

(20:22):
anything about, you know, And then she turns up at TNA and
Trinity just is tearing off, tearing everything up like it's
just looking great. She has these banger matches
with everybody. I will be fair.
On the show, I had said that I felt like she was going to get
lost in the shuffle of TNA. She did not.

(20:42):
In fact, she was the TNA women'schampion before she lost it to
Jordan Grace. And then she comes to she goes
to Rumble and then Jordan Grace is right there too.
So it's crazy to see that she's excelling as well in the
position. And then, you know, it's not
even that she became stale because she did sort of like,

(21:03):
hey, we had this idea that we would kind of want to see how it
works, you and Jade and Bianca together.
And then, you know, we're going to have you go off and then
you're going to come back and we're going to have you push.
We're going to give you this heel push.
And she's just dominated with it.
You know, the perceived caution is a thing of genius and.

(21:25):
She. Making it work, Yeah, Everywhere
she's doing, she's making it work.
And so I never, I don't know if she was ever, I don't know, I, I
don't know how to say say like this, because when she was a
Smackdown's champion and she wasa Smackdown women's champion,
you know, we all were here for it when she relinquished the
title and then won it back and she became A2 time champion.

(21:46):
We're here for it. You know, WWE never really gave
her a fair push. But this is a girl that came up
from like the original NXT game show.
And she here she is now still hanging a banging years later,
still doing a thing. And I I don't know if she I
don't know if she's been underrated.
I feel, I feel like she's been low rated, right?

(22:08):
And now I feel like she's on par.
She's I mean, ever since like she got the main push on the
main roster, leaving the the Fungodactyls and just, you know,
that whole split between her andCameron and she's been doing her
thing, just running by herself. Like she's been improving.
We've been saying it every year.It feels like she's been
steadily improving. And now like the character work

(22:30):
is starting to come together, especially with the perceived
caution. And she's got this like great
heel turn. I don't I don't know if she's
ever been underrated though. I feel like if anything, she's
always been mid card rated and you know, I feel like she's
cracked into that, that upper echelon.
I don't think it's a. Matter of being underrated as
much as it is underutilized, I can see.

(22:52):
That a lot. With people, yeah.
She just. Bro.
If she's. Here this year, and this is what
we're talking about. Like this proceed with caution
gimmick being absolutely fire. I love this darker gimmick she
has going on. Yeah.

(23:13):
What? What are we going to?
Be saying about her next year. I mean the theme song.
Is fire. Her gear is fire.
I love. I love like I love the.
Little the little nod to Owen, as well as making it your own
with the caution tape and all that shit.
Like the razor blades. Yeah, yeah, whether they're in

(23:34):
her hair. They're on her suit.
Like, I love it, dude. I'm here.
For all of it. Fucking love it.
Yes. And I think, OK, so like to be
fair with Naomi too, like this was a this is a thing like she's
and I, I don't I you guys can let us know how you feel about
putting the comments and we'll definitely read them out.
But like she's definitely like Hall.

(23:57):
She's she was Hall of Fame worthy before this run.
I think this kind of solidifies that this definitely, I don't
want to say. This makes her like first round
ballot level. I think that's putting a little
bit too much hype into it. Not yet at least.
But she's definitely, like you said, solidified her spot of OK,

(24:20):
that she is a Hall of Famer. Well, she has.
All the accolades that we look for, right?
She won the rumble, the only women's rumble that they had,
right? The that the main, not the the
what was the fabulous movie? That was what they were going to
call originally. And then they're like, yeah.
No, just call it the Women's Rumble.
She won that and she's, I think she's the only women's winner of

(24:42):
that. She's yeah, that that quickly.
Vanished. Yeah, money in the.
Bank, right, she's a money bank winner.
She's the second African American to money in the bank.
You know she's successfully cashed in.
She's a three time champion. She's been a multi time right

(25:03):
only thing there's. Only literally 2 things that's
that's avoided her now and that's because they just created
them. Well, I was going to say.
And the and the. Intercontinental, yeah.
And I was. Going to say like this iteration
of like the WWE Women's Championship, like she hasn't
got that, you know, I, yeah, because she will.

(25:23):
But I also look, yeah, you're right, Like the Women's US
Championship and then the Intercontinental Championship.
Like she hasn't won those yet, but she will.
And I think I I now be fair. It doesn't sound funny.
And a lot of people be like, what, 'cause they just did this
with, they shoehorn Becky Lynch to do this, too.
Send her down to NXT, You know, that's like the world.
Yeah. Like and let her win the.
NXT like when she when she dropsthe Women's Championship, send

(25:45):
her down to NXT, let her win theNEC Championship 'cause we want
to see her as a Grand Slam champion.
Like I want to see her. Yeah.
And then let her win the Rumble,send her over, send her over to
send her over to Smackdown and win the the WWE women's
Championship too. Like let her do that stuff, let
her win all the titles because let's be fair, man.
Like this is the one who like I said from was it NXT season 3

(26:08):
season 4 like from then to now, the growth that this woman has
like hey, you guys should have been handing her like all these
championships and like in my personal.
Opinion her winning the Rumble and I I say about this, her
winning the Rumble would make her a first round ballot pick
for me when we talk. About.
First round ballot picks. Look at the look at the list of

(26:31):
everything they've done and what's the one thing that stands
out? Royal Rumble victory.
Yeah, yeah, and, or I mean, shit, let her win Queen of the
Ring that like that. Too.
There you go. I kind of so.
You know, 'cause this one, like Sheamus also is like just
missing Intercontinental Championship, but he's won like
the big, the big events, right? Money in the bank, Royal Rumble,

(26:55):
he's one King of the ring. You know, I feel like that's a
thing that should be also like ran for for women, right?
Like win in the Rumble, winning the money in the bank, winning
the win in the ring. Hey, you know, I couldn't think
of another person who I would want to see as Queen of the ring
than her. And I think she'd do a great
job. It'd be fun to watch her kind of
just do that whole thing. And thank God you don't have the

(27:17):
accent anymore for winning. Like hey mind you, hey chats
either get on the show or get the fuck out of.
Here, stop playing with. The with the chat because we
know you're here watching. This guy out?
Here this hey, listen to me right now.
What I think is Naomi, she has already had all the accolades.

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She deserves all the accolades and I don't think she's I I
agree. I would have to say
underutilized would be the way that I would have used the word
not underrated. I don't think she's underrated.
I just think under underutilizedis definitely like the best way
to like say that about her. Yeah, definitely.

(27:59):
She's cuz I cuz to me when I look at it, when I look at this
right, it says underrated or hasshe earned her place?
She's earned her place. She's already been at the table.
And mind you, she's also done stuff that some of the other
women in on WWE or NXT has done.She is a she's a TNA or Impact

(28:20):
women's champion coming over. You know what I mean?
Like who else can say that? Chelsea Green like, but she's
not oh, she's not world champion, right?
She just won the US Championship.
Like Jordan Grace is now over inNXT.
She's not there yet, right? So who else can we really say?
Like can say they've held that title too.

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So she's got accolades outside of the outside of the E that she
can also stand on her own lore for it.
So I I definitely agree if if the the rumble, if she wins a
rumble or she wins like another big like I would say Queen of
the ring. I already think she's already if
not first, second, definitely second.

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If you put like a ballot system together, I would definitely
say. But yeah, as soon as she
retires, man, like the the firstperson that I would want to see
Naomi, I think it is Naomi. Like, yeah, all day long.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about y'all?
What do y'all think you guys canput your comments in?
We'd love to hear from y'all. Tell us what she's doing, Jazz.
Naomi, do you think she's? Underrated.

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She's earned her spot. Do you think she's
underutilized? You think she's over utilized?
What's your what's your class offices on it?
We want to hear from you guys and we'll read them out as we
change topics. We go in and out so you know,
we'll just continue adding on. But right now what I want to get
into is one event called Push and Berry Berry Berry all.

(29:46):
Right, Twitch. What are we bearing?
What are we pushing? First, I want to see what we're
going to bury. What we're pushing, what we push
in. I'm a I'm a keep harping on
this. We are pushing women's wrestling
because it's so fire right now. I don't care what brand that you
like, you could tell me. But like, man, the stuff they're

(30:08):
doing on Smackdown is amazing. The stuff they're doing on Raw
is amazing. The stuff they're doing on NHT,
the stuff they're doing AW, the stuff they're doing on TNA, all
of it. I'm here for all of it.
It's the same thing we push almost every week.
EVOLVE is on fire too, but I'm here for all of women's

(30:28):
wrestling right now, bro. And it's not even like a oh,
man, like, you know, like I might, I might stand something
with them. No, no, no.
It's just that there's this appreciation of like how hard
these women are putting in the work.
And you're seeing it time and time and time.
And it's like, how do we how do we not acknowledge this?
Like everybody's talking about oh, man, like I'll use an

(30:51):
example. People will tell.
Hey Adam, Adam Hangman page likedeserves our accolades for being
the the the new AW world champion.
Bang, absolutely. But do I think that him and Mox
had a better match than what Mercedes, Monet and Tony Storm
did not James Nah. Not at all.

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Not even close. Not at all.
Anybody. Well, what about like they did
they really have to do that tombstone spot?
Yes. No, No, they didn't.
But guess what you're talking about?
That's what we're doing. You're.
Talking about a a a chick who literally goes on national TV
and openly calls herself a whore.
Get the fuck out of here with that.

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If you're, if that's what you'remad about in that match, you're
I'm sorry. You're dumb as shit.
Yeah, like. It is what it is I look at.
I look at Evolution as a whole, entire pay-per-view in and out.
We had great matches. Bailey and Lyra and Becky was a
great match, too. You know we're looking at the

(31:53):
the women's tag team championships, right?
Like the the growing of a friendship between Charlotte
Flair and Alexa Bliss. The fact let's hold on.
First of all, it's 2025. We're talking about the fans
cheering for Charlotte Flair andWill.
I'm going to, you know. What I'm going to and I'm so

(32:13):
glad Damien's not here and I'm sure it'll be clipped, so I
can't deny it. That is wholeheartedly what I'm
pushing is the tag team between Alexa and Charlotte, Charlotte
with the We're Not Friends shirt.
And I'm I, I think this should have happened a little bit ago.
Like, I think they kind of missed the opportunity on this,

(32:34):
but I like that we're getting itnow.
Yeah. I'm here for.
It and once again it. Once again it.
Falls into the category of pushing women to wrestling.
Yeah, and. It's like it's a thing that we,
you know, once like Alexa, like got into the fray of things with

(32:54):
her and was like, hey, you know,we need a, you know, I know you
don't like me, I don't really like you.
We can get on the same page XYZ,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
That all started making. And then all of a sudden the
ball starts rolling and I, I talked about it.
I was like, yo, wait a minute. Like I was listening to it on
Evolution. I was like, yo, this crowd is
really cheering for Charlotte Flair right now.
Like they're really chanting forher.
And I'm, it's funny because likewhen Charlotte first came back

(33:17):
to the E and she was like, hey, it's been a long time, you know,
I've missed you guys. They're constantly turned on
her. And then she was like, forget
it. I don't even want to be here
guys. As he right more, this place
sucks, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And now here we are seeing Blisslike out there and, you know,
'cause the fans, obviously the fans love Alexa Bliss.

(33:37):
And so now they're seeing that this relationship is like
starting to form and now people are starting to share with
Charlotte. And I'm like, all right, you
know what, I'm, I'm here for it too.
I like it. I like seeing it.
It's kind of a fun thing to watch get get thrown together.
And you know, we'll see at Summer Slam, like what happens.
But the fact that, you know, like Alexa Bliss was going to

(34:00):
get speared and Charlotte jumps in the way and pulls Alexa out
of the way. I was like, oh, oh, we really
doing this now? Like, OK, cool.
So I'm here for them. They work so well together, so
fucking well together that it. It's something that.
Shouldn't be, but is. And I like it.

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I also like. The fact that Alexa Bliss is
playing into a past character that she used to have when she
was the the fairy cheerleader. The glitter cheerleader.
Yeah, I love that we had that like on this last Smackdown that
she was out there with the pom pom and stuff like cheering her
on and like they are just kind of funny.

(34:45):
I just want to know. What did that pom pom have in it
'cause that? Shit was sold.
Like she got hit with a fucking brick, yeah.
And they're just like. Oh yeah, I don't know, man.
This is it. Go team.
Yay. We're not friends.

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We're not friends. But we're working together.
Yeah, absolutely. All right, so let's get into the
other side of it. So if we're pushing women's
wrestling now, what are we bearing?
Go ahead 'cause you seemed. Real excited about this.
What am I No, actually, here's here's what I'm going to bury
right. And because I'm going to put
these other I'll I'll we'll talkabout the stuff that was going

(35:26):
to be going on for dumb ass a week.
And then if you guys want to go on Twitter, 3 count, 3 count
under score under score pod Jesus and follow us there.
We're gonna put the we'll put the the pole up there for dumb
ass of the week. But for me, what I want to put
in the dumb ass of the week or not the Berry is dude, we have
to bury these overbooked main events at AW dog.

(35:50):
I all all in, like, I get it. We had a Texas death match, but
it's like every single time thatJon Moxley is in the main event,
some shenanigans has to happen. Thanks, Chaz, but something has
to happen. We can't find under score is

(36:12):
where it's at, but something hasto happen.
And it's kind of at the point where it's like, damn, Brody,
like what did we? What are we doing right?
We're just overloading the stuff.
Is the spike this this the bed of nails, right?
And I'm not saying it's like it's unnecessary, but I'm just
like, yo, we are just we just keep elevating the board.

(36:36):
We just. Keep elevating the.
The the risk factor and is, is it really for the payoff?
Like is it really necessary for the pop?
Like what are we really doing? I.
Yeah, I mean. I feel like.
You can overdo things, and AW has found a way to make every

(37:01):
single event just about. I feel so overdone that it's
it's hard to finish the main event sometimes.
Like, not that. I'm now not that I'm complaining
about the but a nail spot or even if you want to go back to

(37:23):
some of their other paper views where they did the the syringe
that Adam Page took through the cheek and all that.
Like, I am here for the most violent of violence, but at some
point you have to realize that you're overdoing it.
Like, are you? Are you trying to be like, is

(37:45):
this is every main event supposed to be tournament of
death? Because that's what it's coming
off as. Yeah, especially when.
People like Tony Kahn make statements online saying maybe
we should tone down the blood a bit.
Every main event or every match doesn't need to have blood in

(38:06):
it. And here we are, what, a year
and a half later and just about every main event still is as
bloody as a car accident. Like, let's be serious, yeah.
And I mean, certain matches I make like I get it right, Like
the Texas death, Texas death match makes sense.
It makes good have it right. It also makes sense to every

(38:28):
anarchy and anarchy and arena, right?
I mean, to be honest, we could do.
Away with anarchy and arena and I I too.
Agree. Blood and guts.
I would also expect that to happen right the the right the
the send home match between RyanMay and Tony Storm, right?
This was the ending of that match, right?
Like those were these are thingsthat like you have to, but the

(38:50):
problem is just like your pay per views.
Everybody got blood. In it everybody got.
So what's the matter then at this point?
You know, I mean, I, I feel thatlike there should be more to it.
There should be more given to it, right?
Like there's, it's just to me, it just there's it's a lot, it's
a lot going on that it doesn't really necessarily have to be

(39:12):
going on. It's just like no let.
Let some of this. Shit, just kind of go yo, let's
have a main event. Let's have a main event that
doesn't have as much color in it, the blood and.
Guts and gore and it doesn't need to be every single match,
dude. And I'm still thinking.
About like edge, edge with a spike in the bag, like yo, like

(39:34):
pull it right and I get it like you.
And that's somebody who should. Know better and we we talk
we're. Talking about it because it's
like you brought up how do you elevate now?
How do you elevate? You just brought out a bed of
nails. And then Mox takes the bump like
off the off the, the, the, the clothesline and like he takes
the bump and then you're like, Oh my God.

(39:55):
And like what? What more?
What more can it be? Like what?
Where do you go from here? Where do you know what?
What's the next move? Mox goes away for a little bit.
Not like he's back. Like he's back on win.
What, what, what, what are? We going to see big Grimes style
things where you get thrown off a scaffolding next.
Oh wait, we've already seen that.

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Like at some point or another, people are just going to get
tired of it because you're not going to be able to go any
further, right? It's like.
What else are we going to do? Like where, where do we go from
here? How do we go?
How do we go to the next level up?
What, where, where are we aimingfor?
What? What is the goal of getting more
people to watch your product? Right.

(40:38):
And Tony, by all means, man, like it has to mean something.
But when I watch someone like mocks bleeding every other
match, color doesn't matter. Like it just does, man.
At. Some point I'm just.
Going to say at some point or another, we just need to get it
the fuck over with, do a human sacrifice on AW, and that's

(41:01):
fucking. That's it.
That can be the series finale, season finale, whatever the
fuck. Let's end it there.
Let's just do a human sacrifice,get it out of the way.
I'm sure Darby Allen will sign right the fuck up for it.
Oh man, big shout outs to Darby too.
Big shout outs, said Darby. Yeah.

(41:21):
Congratulations on your climb Mount Everest and I love the
fact that we cut a promo on Mount Everest.
We did we. Wholeheartedly did yo.
Ho, like I don't want it like I'm I'm not here to like again.
We just talked about this earlier with with Nikki, right,
But hey man, there's something beside that.
You went and you climbed Mount Everest and you cut a promo up

(41:43):
there talking about like. Shout out like let.
Me, let me put this shout out toTony for long term, long term
storytelling that like you idea,like hey man, you climb out
Everest, you cut this promo, bring it back to us and then
we'll post it up and then you drop in from the raft and you
just go from there. Then that's what we do.

(42:06):
That's what we did. I'm like, that's exactly what we
do. I'm here for it, but again.
That pushing women's wrestling like always because like it's
it's a I I love what we're getting out of it bearing you
know these overbooked AEW maintenance matches that are on
the pay per views like not. Here for.

(42:27):
It but what I am here for is oursecond debate topic, which I'm
kind of excited. I want to talk about it.
Which was better, evolution or all in?
Speaking of what we just. Buried.
Yeah. Legitimately.
Like we basically. Been talking about this since
the beginning of the show, yeah.I would be fair, I'll say.

(42:51):
It out there I evolution was my show.
Evolution was better. Yeah, I thought, evolution.
Was better and. Like I like I was saying to you
earlier, I I came up with this topic and the more I sat here
and thought about this topic. It dawned on.
Me all in had the spots that you're going to see shorts of

(43:15):
all over YouTube and all over Twitter and whatever the fuck,
you're going to see them everywhere to where Evolution
had the matches. Because let's be.
Serious, EO Sky and Ria Ripley was fucking fire even before
Naomi cashed in. Like my God bro.

(43:35):
That match went everywhere too, like we had.
What? Why we had such a long ref month
like I, I don't care. EO jumping off it's.
Like the camera angles that we got.
Also the fan camera angles of EOjumping off the the equipment
onto RIA. Like bro.
Like that evolution? Had.

(43:56):
The matches and beginning to end, it was a great show, yeah.
All in had. Great matches, Tony Storm,
Mercedes, Monet, but I feel likepeople are are more so talking

(44:16):
about the spots that happen, yeah.
More so than the. Actual match as a whole, yeah.
And I. Think best match of the night at
AW I'll be fair. I'll say it again.
Tony Storm versus Mercedes goingit was a higher match.
Also, I will throw this out there as a second place match
was the women's gauntlet match because I thought the ending for

(44:41):
for Athena coming off and hitting her move and I it's not
to call the eclipse no more. I forget what it's called my I
just remember as the eclipse. But hitting that hitting that
stunner off the top was fire because it was like you're
loading up and to get into a sharpshoot blam like yo.
And I was like, I remember watching it.

(45:02):
I was we were coming back from from Virginia as we were heading
up towards bachelors Massachusetts.
And I saw that spot and I was like, Oh my God, I was like, I
got murdered. I was here.
For it, I was like damn, that's such a good spot and I was like
yo, Athena winning this was necessary and you know, she's

(45:22):
the longest reigning ROH women'schampion but like y'all don't
really. Talk about.
Her like she is the best scene going on in AW outside of the
promo. Her and.
Tony Storm just had bro bro. When she started off.
Like, hello, my minions. And she went in like, talking

(45:44):
smack about, oh, do I have to have a British accent too?
That was like, bro, I was here for all of this, bro.
Bro it was so good. So good.
And I'm just, I'm here for her, for Athena just doing her thing.
You know, Mercedes obviously will come back because she has a
TBS champion. She's going to have to defend
that title. But like, yeah, Athena just

(46:06):
doing her thing. I love the fact that she has the
contract. I can't wait to see when she
cashes in not cash. When she writes that contract,
she signs that contract. I can't wait to see when that
happens. But I'm here for whenever she
decides to, you know, become like the next.
I'm convinced. Your next AW women's champion I

(46:26):
just. It has to be.
It has to be like you had Christian hold this champions,
this, this contract for so long that once he went to cash in, he
failed. Yeah.
He failed like. Why did we fail?
What what motivated you to be like, hey, you know what would

(46:49):
be great is if Christian failed at cash in this or sign this
contract and they're going like it just it bothers me that that
happened and now here we are pushing forward and you have
Athena and you have MJF. They both can't lose like 'cause
then this contract doesn't mean Dick.

(47:10):
Exactly. Doesn't mean.
Anything like, OK, who should you win the contract?
So now you're just going to the next person who fails that to to
win a championship, like they have to win, they have to win
like, and I think the infamy is your next women's champion, like
easily, easily. I was convinced.
It was going to be Mercedes Monet.

(47:30):
I thought so too. Who beat Tony?
Storm take the women's title offof her and then we would get
Athena, Mercedes Monet. I like the idea of Tony Storm
versus Athena so much more. I.
Like it. I wished that.
I wish that. OK, so there's two parts to this
and y'all going to hear me out when I say this.

(47:51):
I wish Mariah May would have stayed in a because if the
plants were served the way the plants were going, rumor
allegedly Mercedes was going to drop the TV's championship to
Athena and then she was going togo after the women's
championship. And then we probably would have
got, you know, Mercedes as your women's champion.

(48:13):
But because of circumstances happening, things had to get
changed on the fly. And that's what we ended up
getting. So regardless, Tony and Athena
are about it up. And I'm kids, boy.
Yeah. Yeah, 100%.
That that that match up is goingto be so good.
We're going to be like, Dang, this is crazy that we're here.
Chaz. Quit playing with the name Chad,

(48:34):
bro. I don't.
Want to go the fuck away? Just lurking.
In the shadows and shit this manout here like.
Hey, you guys read this chat. Look, Prince wrote it in.
We know, Prince wrote. It in you know how this works.
You know how this works. We read them in between each

(48:55):
segment. We don't just randomly post it
up here, we've read them when we.
Want Yeah, this man out here? Wiling out right and I just
ruined the momentum of how we'retalking about you know what
let's just bring up the next thing go ahead Chaz hit the next
section says you come on play with all the controls go on Chaz
hit. You know what the next one is?
You. Can't go and do it.

(49:17):
He's. He's over here.
Dying laughing here. Hold on, is Damien's dumb?
As of the week. Yeah, that's.
What it is Damien's dumb ass to be.
He ain't even here. I nominate.

(49:39):
Chaz Evans. Yeah, I'm, yeah.
I'm putting Chaz in there too, wholeheartedly.
Chaz in here laughing. Like Chaz was like, I was like,
yo, Chad, you be on the show today.
Nah, I'm like, all right, cool. It's cool, It's cool.
That's that's notable noted, right?
It's fine. But now all of a sudden, like
here he is like just not like saying anything.

(50:01):
All right, yeah, you can think of Chaz for it.
Chaz put made that together. He put that together.
All right, so let's talk about it, man.
We got we got Damien's dumb ass a week.
Damien is not going to be on dumb ass a week because we have
three other stellar candidates that I want to put on there.
Chaz, I you know what Chaz rightin the chat.
Are you going to be writing thisin a Twitter poll or do I got I

(50:23):
want to know now put it in the chat.
I want to see it pop up. He's so mad, he.
Isn't going to do anything. No shit.
He's tired. Like I bet Chad is like out here
just laughing your ass off like just like bro, I'm dying over
here like guaranteed. So, all right, so Twitch,

(50:46):
outside of Chaz, do you have anybody else that you want to
put in this chat or in this as dumb ass of the week?
Seriously. Go.
Joking around. Yeah, somebody named Matthew
Polinsky. All right.
Well, y'all know him y'all. Know him as Corey Graves, I
know. Him as the.

(51:06):
Reason I watch wrestling on mute.
We just using this whole man's government name?
Yes, just fuck. That man.
All right. Well, let me let me talk about
the three people that I want to put the S little week, All
right, number one, we're going to put WWE and TKO and why would

(51:29):
I pick both those together? Well, recently we started to
know it. It allegedly, allegedly, which
is why we had to describe her allegedly, Yeah.
So WWE just told their employees, their employees that
when it hit with the severance package, they're no longer
getting a month. Or was it a month for every a

(51:52):
month for everything? They worked.
Yeah, they're not their. Severance package is, is
changing. They're getting out every two
weeks now for every year that they work for the company.
So you're not getting like you're not getting the same,
you're going back on it. And I understand right, as
business change in the, in the, in the culture changes and you
have to evolve and stuff like that.
Like it makes sense. But I would feel like

(52:13):
grandfathering your employees would probably be better.
Like, you know, because you havea lot of guys who have a lot of
tenure in that company that you would want to be like, Hey,
we're going to, we've had you inthe company for 20 years.
You've been in here as, as, as an employee here for 20 years.
You're still going to get this. And as we start bringing the new
people that this average packageis going to change, but we're

(52:35):
not getting that everybody is just like, bam, you getting hit
with it right off the RIP. So it's like, why, why, why even
why, why even. It just it just to me just makes
you look foolish. And I'm not, I'm not here for it
at all. They got to figure.
Out a way to make up for those lack of ticket sales because of

(52:56):
them. Fucking high ass ticket prices
bro. Forever the tickets rising and
rising like hey man, you can, you can watch, you can watch
evolution from the nosebleeds for $71 in the in the very back
row or you pay. $1000 plus, that's not including food and

(53:17):
you know if I buy a T-shirt or something like that when it cost
me $1000 plus to the Royal Rumble which is like 2 hours
down the road when they held it in Tampa.
That is fucking ridiculous, brah.
The amount of money you got to. Spend to just make that happen.
All right, so that's that's number one.

(53:39):
Chaz, you still haven't hit us up and let us know if you're
going to put stuff in the in theTwitter or not #2 this is a good
one. Andy Byron and Kristen Cabin.
Oh, Jesus. Christ these.
Fucking people. Yeah.
Chaz just texted me. He said he already did.
Yeah, let's be real. Coldplay.

(54:00):
What's up, bro? I'm appreciative of the cold.
It's time to fuck out. Maybe if.
You're going to have an affair. Let's not be in the press box.
Yeah, let's. Yo, how wild is it that it?
Mind you, that also happened in Gillette Stadium on the second
night. I know this because when my
friends was telling me about howthere was there the first night

(54:21):
that it happened and the second night that went down.
But yo, like, how wild is it that you're like, hey, just, I
just want to know, like, what did you like, what did you tell
your significant other before going to the show?
Like, hey, we're doing a team outing in Boston at a Coldplay
concert. Coldplay concert like.
Mind you, it's, it's me, the CPO, you know, the chief

(54:45):
personal officer and then the HRdirector is right next to us.
It's like, yo, that is wild to me.
Does he? Mind you, I feel like I'm
learning new things all the timeabout the business world because
I didn't even know ACPL was a thing like a personnel.
I thought it was just like director of HR.
Like, I just thought that that was like the highest that you

(55:06):
could get in the company with that Cpl.
Yo. And she'd only been there for
like, since like, November, like.
Allegedly. And then the girl came, the HR
director came with her too. Like she also got she got a real
pay. Raise quick.
Bruh how? Wild is that though, like all
the things that could be happening right now, like I felt

(55:28):
I, I, I. Felt bad.
For the mom and the husband, yeah.
Because it's like. Yo what the hell bro?
Like their lives are. Ruined.
Done while. We are having.
A field day with this bro and. Like, so my heart goes out to to
the families right of these two who decided that they were like,

(55:50):
hey, man, we're going to do a sneaky getaway thing.
We're going to call it, we're going to write this on the
expenses as like a deal the company totally.
Paid for those cold tickets Yeah, they did.
And the. Travel there like everything,
bro. They're sitting out there like
singing. Just imagine like you're singing
with Vita, the Vita, the Vita, you're just up there singing.

(56:13):
And they're like, hey, let's putthe spotlight on some people and
they're like just them. And mind you, this would be
nothing. Nothing if you acted normal.
Yep, that. You just did there.
Just hey. Nobody would have.
Known your spouses would have known, but let me tell you, this

(56:34):
is a, this is a country that is very divided right now.
And it is absolutely amazing that a that two people's
relationships being ruined is what unites us because the whole
country is having a field day with this.
Absolutely. And then our third, our third

(56:57):
person that's going to be nominee on this list.
OK, so normally we get to talk about wrestling and we'll talk
about like people who represent wrestling and that those will
normally be our dumbass. And obviously, WWE was our top
one this time, right, with TKO. Andy, congratulations, you made
our list, Lloyd Howe. And if you guys don't know who

(57:18):
Lloyd Howe is, let me explain itto you.
OK, so the NFL has the NFL and the NFLPA Association, right?
So they have representatives formost people.
Lloyd Howe is the former NFLPA executive, right?
He was the guy that was in charge of representing the
players when he went to go talk to Rodger, Goodell and the

(57:38):
owners about what the players wanted.
Allegedly. Mind you to disclaimer down
below, allegedly this man went out of his neck to back door a
deal to write language stop players from getting so much
guaranteed money in their contracts after what happened

(58:00):
with Deshaun Watson, right, Shaun Watson, Cleveland Brown
quarterback, former Cleveland Brown quarterback, $230 million
deal, all of it guaranteed, mindyou, torn ACL, torn Achilles,
right poor play. I think he only played like
maybe 20 games something I don'tremember.
Sorry. I don't really pay attention to
you, Watson. It's not you're not my you're

(58:20):
not on my team. I'm I'm a big Broncos fan.
That's where I'm at. But regardless.
This so. After this happens, the owners
of the Cardinals and the owners of the the standing of Chargers,
as well as my team, the Broncos,all of a sudden these
quarterbacks don't get guaranteed deals, right?

(58:41):
Like they're guaranteed money. And now I, I hear a lot of
people and they always like, well, whatever these players
make a lot of they make too muchmoney anyway.
Cool. But the market was the market.
Like they shall watch the Cleveland Browns guaranteed the
guaranteed 230 mil. But all of a sudden Kyler Murray
doesn't get like fully guaranteed money.

(59:01):
He gets kind of underneath it, right?
All of a sudden, Justin Herbert's deal doesn't work out
and he doesn't get a fully guaranteed deal.
Lamar Jackson. Hey, shout outs, Chaz.
I know you're a big Ravens fan. Doesn't get a guaranteed, fully
guaranteed deal. Russell Wilson doesn't get a
fully, fully guaranteed deal because the owners had colluded
together to prevent all the players from getting their Max

(59:24):
teed money. So it doesn't become like that.
The NBA doesn't become like the NHL, doesn't become like the MLB
where you're guaranteed your contract.
So this man was responsible for going back there and helping
them put in language to help prevent them from getting their
fully guaranteed money. And also, mind you, while we're
here on the subject, another person who belongs on this list
that's not going to be on this list, but should be JC Tretter.

(59:46):
If you guys don't know who that is, go ahead and look him up.
He was the Center for the Cleveland Browns the day, the
day that they made the announcement.
Deshaun Watson, $230 million deal.
He was the first person cut. He was the president of the
NFLPA right before and because he was an NFLPA Rep.

(01:00:07):
The presidential Rep, once you get cut from a team, you can no
longer be that person. So he was serving his last term.
He brought on how and then how appointed him the chief strategy
office, chief strategic officer,the CSO of the NFLPA.
So we're paying another person for a role that shouldn't even

(01:00:28):
be there. What the hell?
And there's a whole. Bunch of stuff.
So if you guys don't know, go check out Pablo Torre.
I want to give a big shout out to him because it was it wasn't
for him finding out the story. I wouldn't know about it.
Y'all wouldn't know about it. So I'm out here throwing out
some love to that. But yeah, like how you you the
other dude you want to listen toman.
So those are your four choices there.

(01:00:48):
Recap back on. We got Andy and Kristen, we got
the WWE and TKO. We how?
And then we also got Chaz. Chaz.
Yeah, you guys go. Out there and vote for who you
guys think is dumb ass of the week and then you know, we'll
read the poll at the end as we get ready to get into our third
topic, which man, that was a lotfor me to talk about, which was

(01:01:11):
fuck off. I had so.
Much stuff to think about like how everybody relates to this.
Let's go into it. This is our last topic we're
going to talk about today. It's called a packed schedule.
What does that mean? Well, the E recently has had a
lot of events, right? We're talking about Raw, we're
talking about smack Down, what about NSD?
We're talking about Evolve, we're talking about King of the
Ring, we're talking about Saturday night main event.

(01:01:33):
We're talking about SummerSlam especially because SummerSlam is
not that far away. We're literally 2 Mondays away
from a SummerSlam like. So is it hurting their ability
to tell stories? Because you know, we had to have
this match with Goldberg versus Gunther.
Like, you know, when we're trying to build up this other
match between like Gunther and whoever else you want to say CM

(01:01:55):
Punk, whoever else is coming along, Is it, what are we, what
are we doing? You know what I mean?
Is it? Is it too much what you can?
Yeah, yeah, it's starting to getto be too much, man.
The the I get. The overseas.
Crowd deserve to have shows for them.
I get that. It's cool seeing some of these

(01:02:17):
PL. ES being brought back like Clash
of Champions. Cool seeing that be brought back
re banded as with Sasha Berlin or whatever, something like
that. But there is such a thing as
doing too much. Much like we were just talking
about with AW with their blood and guts and all that at some

(01:02:38):
point. Or how can I miss you if you
don't go away? If we're.
And we're getting to that point now where it's two PL.
ES a month. Coming up.
We're getting the best of both worlds, or whatever that song
was. Someone spare me.

(01:03:00):
Chaz now. Is your opportunity to have been
Cliff is singing I just at some.Point or.
Another, it becomes hard to keepup with what's going on.
Either that or you get burned out real quick with what's going
on because let's be serious, wrestling is on almost what
every day of the week there is some sort of wrestling show.

(01:03:23):
Saturdays, PL. ES Sundays we have PL.
ES. Depending on what company you
watch, it's at some point or another you're either going to
get burnt out or you're just going to get tired of watching
it. So yeah, I believe there is a
point where we're we're, I understand it's all about making
as much money as humanly possible and as little time as

(01:03:44):
we have, but. Bro give me a break.
Every now and then. I just to.
Me. It's wild that like we're seeing
like over and over and over again like.
Just on a repeat. Right, like the, the biggest
problem I have with WWE having so many PL.

(01:04:04):
ES and so many events going on, right, is that eventually you're
running out of challengers, right?
So if you're, if you're a heel champion, you're running out of
baby faces to face. If you're a face, you're running
out of heels to run through, right?
Like what are what are we doing?How are we planning this out to

(01:04:25):
make sure that everybody works out?
You know what I mean? We're kind of already seeing.
That though? How many times have we seen EO
Sky Rear Ripley already, right? Now we get it again.
At SummerSlam, add Naomi, right.Like my?
My biggest issue like you're saying that my biggest issue is.

(01:04:45):
If it was. Different stuff that we're
seeing, sure, but when both PL. ES have literally this almost
this identical matches, that's where it becomes a problem as
well. Yeah, I mean, what I.
Want to see is I want to see, you know, Olberg get another
shot at the world championship at Summer Slam night two

(01:05:07):
against. Why?
No, I don't. I don't.
Want to see it Good, I'll be. Fair.
I I just think that actually that's who probably should have
been on her dumbass in a week aswell.
Like to be fair. I would probably rather watch
another gold watch than a Jelly roll match.
I'm still not a fan of this I. OK, I'm very much a fan of this

(01:05:31):
and I think that's the problem. That's also a problem though, is
that like you're you're running out of these ideas.
And so you're like, well, let's get this celebrity match in
here. We're trying to get more bang
for the buck and we're trying toget this rabidue brought in.
But then you also have to think about the cost effects aside,
right? Like Jelly Roll is not coming
in. OK, he's going to get he's got a

(01:05:51):
payday. He's going to get, he's got a
certain amount of money that he's already got and that out.
Where's that money coming from? Right like you have to think
about these things when it comesin like I get it.
We want to have a a big event we're going to have this the
celebrity match in here. You're already paying Cardi B
just to be the the host of night1 and night 2.
That's probably costing you a pretty penny.

(01:06:13):
So like there's. So much.
That goes into like you, you literally had talked about on a
on a on your call that, you know, endeavour was down a bunch
of money and now they're trying to spend money in or make people
spend money in WE to make up forsome losses that happened in the
company. So like you're paying it now

(01:06:34):
that we're bringing a big celebrity like, you know, like
Jelly roll, we're bringing in, you know, Cardi B and, and let's
let's be fair, like you're paying all the wrestlers
salaries. Like what's John Cena making
like? We'll find that out soon, you
know, and it's like Roman, Roman's going to command a
payday right Then when they're like a, a alleged, alleged

(01:06:55):
article that came out that talked about like Roman, they
wanted to renegotiate Roman's deal because he was like me, a
bill or something like that, like.
You're hurting for the cash. And yet you're still shelling
out money to other people. And let's be serious, because.
Well, I think it was earlier this week, last week, something

(01:07:15):
like that. Not every celebrity works.
Why do you think they just released it?
They got rid of Travis Scott because he wasn't as quick of a
learner as you think. Like, like, these celebrities
still need to be taught how to do this.
Yeah. Well, I will give Jelly Roll
this though, man, because Jelly Roll has been saying that he's
been living in in Orlando secretly, but, well, not

(01:07:36):
secretly. He's been secretly.
Living in Orlando, training withthe Undertaker at the
Performance Center. Yeah, we're talking about but.
He's not doing like one or two days a week.
We're talking he's doing weekly.Yeah, he's there.
He's there every day for the last three or four weeks and has
been like trying to learn quickly and understand like
what's happening. He's also lost a lot of weight
too. I'm going to give him a lot of

(01:07:56):
love to Jelly Roll because he definitely, he's been doing a
lot of running. Yes.
He's been doing a lot of runningwith and he's also, you know, I
think what did he say? Was it Logan Paul's making fun
of him on Jimmy Kimmel? Talk about he's lost like 200
lbs. Yeah, that go.
I keep my man's foot into work. Like, and you know, he he's been

(01:08:17):
telling, he was telling Hunter he's like, I want to know can I
get in a match? Can I get in a match?
Can I get in a match? And finally, here he is getting
into the match like here's like here's Chaz.
But the celebrity. Celebrity has always been a
thing though. It has, it has.
Let's be fair. It has been a thing.
But I feel like WrestleMania is where that thing is.

(01:08:39):
I don't how many celebrities not.
Not only, not only the the WrestleMania portion of
celebrities showing up. Let's look at that real fast.
The value of a dollar then versus now, because it's not the
same anymore. And and it's obvious that

(01:08:59):
certain companies are hurting for me or else we wouldn't be
charging asinine amounts for fucking tickets.
Yeah. Yeah, we'll just pass that
right. Along to the consumer.
I mean, it's just to me, I mean I and I look at it like how many
matches have actually happened at SummerSlam that has has a
celebrity in it. And I don't think, I don't think

(01:09:20):
Jelly roll like I think Jelly roll might be one of the one of
the few that has had a summer slam.
And mind you, summer Slam is also two nights.
Like it's not a one night event anymore.
It's a two night event. So I don't know where WWE like
is sitting financially. I could look that up.
I know, but like to me it just looks like we're over convoluted

(01:09:41):
back to like the original. We are over convoluted with
stuff and that we have to keep trying to reinvent something
that doesn't even really need tobe reinvented.
Looks like yo slow down doing all the Saturday night main
events, doing all this all this shows right and your PL.
ES and just like yo focus on like, Hey, we want to tell the
broader story of who's next and we'll take the title off of

(01:10:04):
Gunther. Who's going to be that person?
You know what I mean? Are we building that person up?
Like are we running to? Are we running them through?
Because it's definitely not. I'll be fair, man, and I'll say
it's probably not Orton. I have a theory of how.
That ends, but I'm not going to say it.
Yeah, I don't know who the next.Person is that's going to be
they have their in ship like this.

(01:10:26):
This is going to be the next champion.
I just want to see I just want to see continue like people to
be kind of built up to face off against Gunther or John Cena and
what you know, we know it's going to be John Cena versus
Cody in a in a street fight for the title who but like.

(01:10:48):
Can we? Are we building up the next
people? Like, because I don't want to
see Cody run through somebody like a Hell in a Cell run
through somebody at War Games orrun through somebody at, you
know, dismember to member. You know, I mean, like I just I
don't want to see I want to see the next the next people built
up. Yeah, I know I said I know what
I said. You know what's funny about that

(01:11:11):
is. WWE just filed for a copyright
for that not long ago. Yeah, I.
Know but I just want to see likethe next the the next
challengers get built up like I know Seth you know Seth had the
money in a bank you know the briefcase like he's still got
something going on we're building up prom I understand

(01:11:32):
we're building up prom brick that's that's the next guy let's
be fair he's the next the guy's got it all going on but like.
Who's who's? Who's the next stop?
You know, I mean like who's nextto go up?
I just, I want to see what happens and the build that goes
on with it. But right now like I.

(01:11:53):
Just I think we have. Too many events burning through
all the guys to get to the next event and I don't.
I'm not here for that. To answer your question.
Earlier there has been 2, and granted, when this article was
probably written, Logan Paul wasn't a full time competitor.
But Stephen Amell and Logan Paulare the only two celebrities

(01:12:18):
excluding Jelly Roll to compete himself or Slam, Who did Logan
Paul? Face at Summer Slam.
I have no idea. I closed.
The article, I didn't read it, but I was going to be like.
How crazy would it be if it was Cody?
So that means both your. Celebrity matches were against
Cody. Yeah, I don't remember.
When do you guys come check it out?

(01:12:39):
Look it up, man. I mean Jazz, do something.
Look that up. My man is still.
Like just lurking in the in the in the distance.
Hey, all right, well, let's get into all right, This kind of
brings us to the end of the row.So we want to be able to do,
Hey, let's talk about who our winner is of dumb ass of the

(01:13:02):
week. Let's go.
Let's pull this up. We are looking at it.
With a. Whopping 100% of the votes.
We got. Andy Byron and Kristen Cava.
It's hard to rest of the week right now.
I mean, you wanted to go to Coldplay to not get in trouble

(01:13:27):
of all concerts. So like.
I mean Coldplay. I mean, it's it's.
Probably like a little romantic atmosphere.
You're probably like, just like chilling.
Think of yourself as like, you know, Jack and was it Jack and
and and and Rose from the Titan.You're like, yeah, we have this
like a little special moment andlike, hey, let's go around the

(01:13:50):
fans and talk about it and also as you.
Bro that dude. Exited stage left real fucking
quick as soon. And my girl, that was the HR
director, man, just oh, her face.
Be red. Like we are busted.
I. Was like, bro, if you would have

(01:14:11):
just played it off just hey man,or hey you know what?
Pick her up and hit her with a DVD real quick.
Like hit her with the attitude adjustment just right over the.
Balcony. Yeah.
Just right. Yeah.
Boom. Right there, Adam and Heimlich,
something like just anything youcould have done.

(01:14:31):
Nah, man, we have to duck and you turn around.
Just don't look at the camera because then yo.
And to get called out by Chris of all like the people.
Hey, either they are really painfully shy or they're having
an affair. Guess what you called it?
And he's shy. They.
Wasn't shy. They wasn't shy about it at all,
which is mad to me so it is whatit is unfortunately like hey,

(01:14:56):
y'all are going to be our dumb ass.
You probably to be fair, y'all in the right spot.
I mean I know that guy actually just stepped down from
astronomer allegedly that's whatwas announced by the company at
least that he has stepped down. I'm sure she's still there.
You know, and I'm sure and and rumor had it that Andy's wife
like took off the surname and just left her her name.

(01:15:19):
Rumor allegedly, right? This game we're getting down
here at the bottom, don't, don'tcome after us.
Say at the beginning, please don't sue us if she's there.
She's waiting for the next CPO. Facts.
Facts. Well, but that's that's us, man.
Twitch, how do you feel about this show?

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