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Yeah, yeah, yeah. yo-yo. Welcome to Chaz and Friends, the
only debate show where the tastehit harder than a super kick
party and the receipts come quicker than a money in the bank
cashing. All right, now, look, we got all
the hot topics, but let's be real, the only authority here in
the wrestling world is right here on the Chaz and Friends
debate show. So tonight, we're putting some

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folks right here on the spot. TNATNA is out here flexing right
now like they're the number two company again, but the question
is, are they actually back in the fight or are they just cat
fat fishing fans with nostalgia Bait axe?
Then we're going over to Smack Down.
Sami Zayn has moved officially to Smack Down chasing the United

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States Championship, but is thisreally his moment?
Or are we about to watch anotherWWE rerun of the Bloodline saga
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gentlemen, Chris Jericho, Y2J, the Chevion, the Devil God, the

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man with more gimmicks than Ric Flair's got X wise.
His AE W deal is coming up. So where does the GOAT go to
finish out the last chapter of his career?
Is he going back home to WWE? Is he staying in AW or is he
going to shock the world again by going to Japan?
Or maybe even TNA. The point is this, we're not

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Yo-yo, yo, it's your boy, your cousin, your nephew.
It's the gravital region's best kept secret and the dawn of the
Mid-Atlantic and the hottest host in all of pro wrestling.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome toChaz and friends.
But it's not about me, it's about my friends.
And this show is about to be hotPuego Fire.

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Ladies and gentlemen, introducing first put the
spotlight on them. Because ladies and gentlemen, he
is the man. He is the man that runs this
show, so don't be surprised. No shock.
Look, ladies and gentlemen, he'sthe face of the three count
podcast. He's also the host of now
entering the ring are highly acclaimed, are a critically

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acclaimed interview show. Okay, it's critically acclaimed,
all right, The critics are me and and my auntie from South
Carolina, but that's neither thepoint.
She's a critic and she likes theshow.
But ladies and gentlemen, this man right here, he is the
current, the reigning and defending.

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Go ahead, say the belt. Go ahead, say Supernova Infinite
Plus championship. Yeah, man, That's he is.
That's the belt he's got. Can't nobody beat him.
Not your Mama, not your granny, not even not even your Uncle Joe
from down the road. He can't even beat the red Dog.

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It is Air Force vendor Intel specialist, the one you call on
when you get the job done, and your friendly neighborhood red
dog and the man that seems to have more hits than you know,
Chris Brown all. Right.

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I don't know how yet that if it Yeah, you were here and it.
Went I was like, I don't have nothing.
I was like, I'm just going to. Let it go.
The intro. My energy was there and you were
with me. We were on the We were on the
roller coaster. By now, no.
No, no, you fell off the coaster.

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You're you splat. You went splat anyway.
But Speaking of splat. I'll fuck you up.
Ladies and gentlemen, live back.All right.
He may be broken, but that spirit is strong.

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Ladies and gentlemen, it is stronger than your favorite
strand of marijuana. Ladies and gentlemen, he is the
only graze that matters to it. Graze I.
Fucking hate you Jazz. Someone stole my Red Hat.

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It's gone. It's missing.
I have no idea where it is. That sucks.
Probably in the front yard, I. Have to get you another I'm.
Broken I'm. Very, very.
Besides, broke, you know. How are your spirits Good.
Very, very. Broken.
Oh my goodness. I'm good.
It doesn't. The arm doesn't hurt as much as

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the cast does. What do you mean I was?
We didn't talk about it. What happened?
I was just getting ready to say for those who doesn't know and
decide to be Jeff Hardy and Darby Allen and test my
mortality and fall off a 15 footladder and broke my elbow.
This guy oh maybe it's I can clap.

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I finally showed up. I go wait a second, roll on,
wait a second. Do my thing.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Wait a minute. Don't even, don't wait a minute
because this is a special, OK? This is a special one.
Pull up the big screen. Fuck.
Me. The OG of OG.

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All right, a man that I, I, I, I, I call a teacher, OK, I like
to say in this wrestling game, there's some there's some things
that you just can't learn at theschool.
You got to learn from the streets and I will say this,
this man right here did not do any of that.
But ladies and gentlemen, he is the man, the myth and the

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legend. He is the Super villain making
his return. Ladies and gentlemen, you
thought you were safe, but you were never safe, never safe at
all. Ladies and gentlemen, Damien
Fatal. Fuck you, chess.

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And you're not in jail, so obviously I did something right,
so you're welcome. That's.
True. And as far as you're fucked up
third topic, I'm still, you know, No, no, I.
Got it. I got it.
So everyone just for context. Yeah, everybody got it.

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The third. Topic with thanks Luke with
Damien and Chris Jericho. I had the topic ready about last
night. I realized when Damon was he
wasn't going to be on the show. I wanted to be funny and I was
like, you know what, I'm just not going to tell him.

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And but then I wanted to put everyone in on else on the joke.
So I've been telling everyone what the third topic was besides
Damian just for your reaction and I can't wait to get into it.
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Studio B, Cliff, what's coming on down for now, entering the

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ring. I was waiting to see Twitch's
reaction through reading that com at.
Least I didn't die at. Least three times.
Three times, yeah. Price AO so yeah, we got now
into now into the rings coming back we got a bunch of
interviews all lined up so you know it'd be slowly be coming

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out I know two of them for sure.If you guys remember curb
photography, curb photography Cisco soda will be joining us on
the show Yeah. So it's gonna be kind of cool.
We got him and we got buff ink is on the mark.
Then we have a couple episodes for now entering 2O1 with our
favorite you know, delivery man who just supposed to show up

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deliver and leave. He's coming back on the show as
well as you know certain Baltimore beats will be
returning to the show. So we're getting some get some
new episodes for 9 in the Ring is gonna get some new episodes
for now entering 201. So we got some cool stuff coming
up. So you guys be on the lookout
for that. Awesome.
Awesome, awesome. Definitely be on the lookout for

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the Villains Lounge. Watch along.
We would watch along for Clash at Paris.
So that's the 31st, right? Right.
Someone correct. Thank you.
So yeah, 31st. So we'll probably do like we did
the other the last time when there was a PLE debate show.
We won't do a debate show. We'll just go live a little bit

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before chitchat a little bit, and then watch the show.
Other than that, let's get on toour first topic because I'm
excited. You know what?
Actually, you know what? Now let's just let's go.
Let's do this. Let's go push and Barry.
Let's do Push and Barry. OK all.
Right, so push and Barry, for those of you who don't know,
that is where me and my friends where we push something in

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professional wrestling, something that we liked or we're
going to give something a Berry,something that needs to get the
hack up out of dodge. All right, let's start this one
off Hot twitch. What you got, man?
Hot. No push and Berry not F check.
Oh Push and Berry Push, that main event from Triple Mania

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last night. That shit was actually pretty
fire. OK, what you going to bury?
Got Berry? Diminito.
There we go, That's what I wanted you to say because that's
my Berry as well. That bullshit.
Get the fuck out of here. This ain't The Muppets.
I don't need puppet fighting in my wrestling.

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I don't want it. I was cool with the Mr. Iguana.
I was cool with the Iguana for alittle bit.
I'll use. There's only so much where I
just go, all right, get this Mickey Mouse bullshit off my TV.
Right. Yeah, so I agree on that one.
My Berry is Di Minito on my on it.
Just you can lump in the iguana in there too, just by proxy.

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What I'm going to push, I'm going to push micro man, though.
Now why? Let me tell you something, Sir.
That dude didn't even come up toOmas's kneecap.
It does not matter. He entertained me.
I have the video of him getting kicked all right on my phone

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when it happened. Do you let me put that?
You know, big screen me. Listen, I sat on my floor last
night for 15 minutes laughing mytail off because that joint was
entertaining and hilarious. You understand me?
That get put Micro Man versus Hornswoggle versus El Torito

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versus what you call it. What's the other little
boogeyman? OK, that's the only one I
remember. Put them in a fatal four way TLC
match. I want to see it at
WrestleMania. Hold on, Dink.
Dink the Clown. Fatal 5 Make it Make it a Money

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in the Bank make. It Are we in the bank?
There it is, we case. In the bank.
Yeah, and I'm saying that's my serious push.
I, I, I don't care. I don't care that.
The briefcase will be clung. I'm going.
To bury this, I'm going to bury the silliness of of the puppet,

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and then I'm going to push the. The saying that's a micro man
yeah of. Yeah, of a micro man.
I don't care. That's how I'm feeling today.
I just I really enjoy it was funny.
And then I'm unlimiting Otis. Great.
And then him getting chucked outlike a little kid.
Sign me up, kid, sign me up. Alright, what you got Damien?

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All right. Today, Junior.
I need a moment. I need a moment.
You've had like. You are the people that go.
Go ahead, Cliff Googly Moogly. All right, well, very wise.
I'm going to I'm going to bury. Shoot, let me bury DIY Mm Hmm.

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I don't care for this act right now.
I wish we would get broken up and I kind of want to see them
run those matches that they had at NXT on the main roster.
You talking? About as singles.
Yeah, I want to see Tomasa Chambo versus Johnny Corgado,
and I want that whole thing run back because I don't care for

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the tag team right now. I mean, DIY is cool and every
time they reunite, like I get like all like we're bad.
And then after a while I'm just kind of like, I'm over it.
I want singles runs. So I'm kind of kind of done with
this whole thing push wise. All right, I'm going to push 21.

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Let me push Dominic Mysterio. You know, we talked about last
week, you know, but this week, man, this man's still killing
it. Like left right, Triple mania
clearly doing his thing, you know?
AJ Styles ruined my my my my debate show.
I just want to still want to putit out.
Was that really supposed to be the third topic?

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What the Dominic if Dominic did win, if Dominic did win, I
definitely wanted to talk about it yes, and we it would have
probably we would have probably had four because I really want
because if he did win, I it would have to me it was it.
And I know we'll go over like real quick, but if Dominic had
won last night, for me, it wouldhave been the stamp of guess

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what, kid, we're putting like the rocket on.
You get ready for the ride like I'm expecting.
I would have been expecting mainevent run or guess what the
Rumble might pick to win it to be completely honest.
Yes, I mean. Think about it.
I don't think they're doing that.
And you're right, they could possibly still be, but it would

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have been more evident if he would have won that belt being
how freaking over and how that crowd resonated with with him.
And then that's their major championship.
And then, oh, you hold that and now you're holding
Intercontinental, something along those lines.
But yeah, if we would have, I really wanted to talk about if
you want. I was highly upset.

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Alright, so I'll never be mad athim.
Dom Dom. And then the other thing I want
to push is Dimonito because I'm here for.
You're trash. Your opinion no longer matters
to me. All right, well then Dom doesn't
matter. So then Dom's trash too now I'll
take that. That's a lie.
That's just a lie. He just.
Said that my opinion was trash. My opinion was that Dom is you

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pushed and if that's then Dom's trash and then my trash opinion.
Doesn't matter this man out heresaying Dimonito like he's the
greatest thing in the world. I didn't.
Well, first of all, I didn't sayall that.
You can't be. But saying that Dominic Stereo
is trash is just a lie. It's not an opinion, it's a lie,

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which is obviously Oh and no, it's a lie.
It's a min I. Don't lie, I mean.
It's like saying no. It's like me saying that's like
me saying there's no such thing as air.
That's not your. I think that's a lie.
No, if you say listen. What's the what's the opposite
of fact? Fiction.

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Fiction like. Also an opinion, fact or opinion
or truth or lies that is this. It's the same shit.
The moment you said I got 2, I knew you were going to.
Pick Oh yeah, I agree the momentthat you.
Always like, we're going to burythis.
I was like, I'm putting it over.Let's go, kid.
Like WWE already pulled over. You can buy them for $100 on WWE

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Shop. Dot com 100% that's fucking AW
Denver capitalized on the money.Monet 1 like crazy that they
never capitalized. On that topic, because they are
intelligent, you talk about the.Silliness and you're like, yo,
I'm going to push micro man like, yeah, by all means, the
swag that he had I'm here for, but like, yo, like we just had

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like Santino and his cobra versus Mr. Iguana and you mean
tell me you're going to bury theI don't like diminito stop.
I'm burying the iguana too. Don't bury the iguana.
It did nothing to you, Sir. They're an invasive species down
here. We bury them all the time.

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Got to get cancelled by PETA. We have a disclaimer.
It's OK, I think. That disclaimer is holding off
your dear life by earning a letter that.
Disclaimer is my safety net. Look, that's why Damon's
laughing, because he knows good and well he goes, yeah, we both

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riding that disclaimer, brother.Damon's like, don't eat that
cheeseburger anymore. Weightless.
A slight kilometer kilowatt weight is going to break this.
He's like, that's why we got it.We going to test the limitations
of the disclaimer. He's like Chris, was it Chris

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Rock's joke about anklets? Dear life?
Like that's what our disclaimersdoing.
See, Damien couldn't handle it, so he was.
Laughing. So I need from Wilder, the
Wilder. The Wilder.
What's? The comments looking like I
don't have. Anything to really bury you.

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Got anything to push besides twitch off a ladder?
That's. Fucked up.
Wow. Shame on you, Claire.
I just. Pray for no reason.
My fault. Shame on you the.
Everybody's catches. Jason, I want to see more of the
Julia and Keanu's thing. Yeah, like I want to see her get

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more clients. Like that would be really cool,
almost like a modern day Bobby to bring Heenan.
And then I was also going to stay dirty Dom, maybe bury the
deaf riders. Finally, man, like, let those

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guys go off and do their own thing and keep Marina and I wish
Oxley together because I kind oflike those two together, but
like the rest of them, let them go do something, yeah.
I agree. I definitely agree on that.
One. Yeah, I'm there, Yeah.

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There you go. Let's see, let's get kind of
shallow so. Time is a shallow.
All right, let's get right into that first debate topic.
All right, it's TNA rated. B.
The number 2 wrestling company again.
So WB has acknowledged TNA's buzz.
Fans are talking about it. TNA is as probably as popular as

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it's ever been. Can it reclaim its old spot as
the number 2 promotion? All right, so can teenage truly
climb back to #2 or are they toosmall to compete at that level?
All right, let's start this one off with you.
Cliff, first of all, this is disrespectful as shit.
Is it still a minor league? No, it's not a minor league.

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And is it, is it #2? I, I mean, I don't know.
I know we just talked before this and you know, it's been
out, it's been drawing. So like I can give it like give
it its props. I never thought it fell off.
Like I thought like maybe if anything, it just kind of like
it took a slight dip underneath where like, you know, AW had all

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this buzz and TNA, which is kindof coming.
You know, impact is coming, likekind of letting go and then
finally went back to TNA and I thought the action never
actually really left. I thought there was like a lot
of great stuff that was gonna happen on TNA.
It's just, you know, the crowds were just were paying attention
to everything else and they needed they needed a break from
all the wrestling that's happening because you have www.e

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AW, then a break WWEAW and you got all these shows coming at
you and it's like brother, like we just kind of need a break
from it. Unfortunately, TNA was when I
caught that break. But yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Rumor has it that they're wanting to move TNA to a major
network and then have them compete on Wednesday nights
against AW. That's what WWE would want.

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So obviously, like, WWE is not really like costing any fodder
for themselves. But I don't know, man.
It's just it's crazy to see thatthis partnership is like worked
out so well for NXT as well as TNA versus like WWE, because
it's not on the main roster. We're not really seeing like
anybody outside of like Joe Hendry at WrestleMania, never

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really seen like anybody else kind of crossover to like Raw or
Smackdown. So when that happens and we can
kind of talk about it reclaimingits second spot.
But for right now, I think it's,it's a close race to sit in 3rd,
but it's like it's not once it starts to what you started
seeing those superstars kind of pop up on the on the on the
bigger roster, I think that's when we'll have the real

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discussion of it being at back at truly #2 But for right now, I
think it's, I think it's #3 but it's just barely like if it's
like AW like TNA like right there underneath it.
What you got, Damien? Anything can happen.

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And it also depends because I heard that they like, you know,
looking to sell. So like if the right place a
person buys, then yeah, you can definitely reclaim that.
I mean, it's not like they can'tor at least become like like
neck and neck. What?
AW, you know what I mean? So yeah, it's still possible.

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I never thought of as the minor leagues either.
Like they had their, they've hadtheir issues, like every
company's had their issues, but I don't think it ever really
like fell off, you know what I mean?
They've always had some great fucking talent, some great
fucking matches. It was just like Cliff sand.
The shiny new toy came in. Everybody kind of flocked to
that. So like now that you know, that

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one place has a little bit more time under their belt, it's like
it'll be a lot easier for TNA tokind of like, because I got it's
like like Cliff said, it's like real close, filling up bigger
arenas, selling more tickets, being seen.

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It is working out for them working with NXT.
And I think that's a great startfor them to work with NXT first
before interacting with the mainroster.
Kind of slowly trickle that in like they've been doing
basically. Yeah.

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That's that's fair. I agree with Damian.
I heard they were they were trying to be sell, trying to
sell. I mean, Cliff and Damian said it
best. It's not really the minor
leagues. It's more of they had a
restructuring period. During that restructuring
period, AW happened to be a thing and come along and now

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it's like, OK, well, like Cliff said, we have wrestling every
week. It it you get over saturation
sometimes and sometimes the not to say they're a small company
or minor league how it's been worded, but the smaller company
seems to be the one that suffered from that.

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And I think that's when TNA really suffered.
I wouldn't really call it a theyfell off or anything like.
That. I, I, I think they're about even
with, with AEW right now. I wouldn't, I wouldn't say 1's
really ahead of the other. I think the only thing that's
kind of hurting TNA right now isnow we have all these rumors

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that what are you over there spazzing out about?
What are you like having a seizure about compound?
You'll get your chance. I think the thing that's really
messing them up right now is thethe sale rumors.
Like is PNA for sale? Other other WWE and he's they

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got first crack though. WWE has first crack and they
have the right to veto the sale to anybody who is not in good
standing with WWE. Yep.
So meaning if AW went to try andpurchase TNA, they would have to
be in better standings with WWE.And the.

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Other than that, I other than that, like like Cliff said,
other than seeing like Joe Hendry at WrestleMania or like
Jordan Grace show up at the Rumble before she went to NXT,
despite the fact that we all knew she was going to NXT, you
don't really see it from the main roster.
I think NXT is the one that has benefited the most out of this
relationship more so than TNA, but I I I hope this helps boost

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TNA to another level. I disagree that it hasn't worked
out for TNA because with these NXT wrestlers going on TNA
television, it's boosting their views.
I think I think saying it hasn'tworked out for TNA is the wrong
wording for it. It obviously has worked out
wonderful for TNA, but every time I turn on TV it's an NXT

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guy holding the TNA titles like.But how many?
How many TNA guys do you see holding NXT titles like it's
it's it's a little bit 1 sided. And none at the moment.
None. At the at the moment, and I
agree with you on that. I think soon you will.
But at the current, well, OK, Cliff, you don't, but woo Hoo.

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I think at the current standing,seeing a lot of NXT people
taking their championships as a TNA guy, that would probably rub
me the wrong way. But Chaz Chadwick, what do you
got to say? Hi, I didn't think, I didn't

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think, I didn't think I'd be by myself on this one.
No, of course not. Here we go.
I didn't. Let's keep it a buck.
TNA is nowhere close to being #2nowhere close.
And This is why. All right.

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If you look at look, if you lookat the top two professional
wrestling companies in the United States, they have not
only TV deals, they have streaming deals as well.
WWE is on ESPN next year. ESPN not not Hulu, not no Max,

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not Netflix, but they are on that too, which is a which is a
bonus to that. They're on on ESPN, the
worldwide leader in sports, Disney AW is on, as has Warner
Brothers Discovery. They're on Max, they're on
Turner networks. TNA is on a is on a network that

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not every what you call a cable package has.
A lot of people. Don't have what access TV or ion
TV I don't know what the channelis on like see we only we can
only even know what it is, but we know like but we do know for
a fact that not we can't get it sometimes like for the longest
time I think I had YouTube TVI could not watch TNAII had to go

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to our trusty old websites that we won't put out there all for
everyone else this. Is what we do.
But that's how I caught up with TNA because I did not have
access to watch it like. That's fair.
But what what about the people who don't have like Disney Plus
or ESPN? Now let me.

(31:18):
Tell you. That you'll be surprised.
You'll be surprised on how many people have a Disney Plus
account or have access to DisneyPlus and all those Disney Plus
apps or Disney apps, they're. The I.
I I don't have numbers, but you've been shocked.
I got people like you. Got what?

(31:41):
You got them all. I got you.
I got the bundle, I got the the plus blue and most.
People have that bundle like. Yeah, I know the.
Deal gives them consistency, especially now with pay-per-view
being literally getting killed by UFC.
Now you they need to get ATV deal on like an actual

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television station that everyonecan access.
They need to get a streaming deal so that they can stream
their shows to a worldwide audience.
Yes, TNA's buzz is on fire. Yes, the, the partnership with
WV is putting them in more, you know, more eyes.
But we also just said it. How many is it?

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You know, it's, it's more this partnership is NXT guys holding
or, and you know, NXT wrestlers holding DNA belt.
So like, yeah, if they were really #2 at least at least in
the Invasion, right? WCW, they were swapping belts a
couple of times. But of course, I know Kay Fade,

(32:47):
you know, we they owned it at the time and all that blah,
blah. But like, I really, I would love
for TNA to climb back being #2 but they just don't have the
resources. Like they don't have the
resources. Yeah.
Agree with. That like cool, I consistently

(33:07):
like it, like it don't. I don't know how to like the
best wording. It's just the end.
I don't want to say the Interneteither because it's not just the
Internet wrestling community that that's bringing the buzz of
TNA. There is outside buzz, but to
say that it it's can be climbed up back to #2 it's crazy to me

(33:29):
when the man, you can't even go and hit a number and watch it.
Most of the time I I just I can't, I cannot, I cannot see it
as the number two. If I can't get on the app and
just go there it is. I can't.
You just did don't work for me brother.
So you need an app for everything.

(33:51):
It's 2025. That's the way the world is
like, yeah, at this point. 2025 like that Lego Plus app you got?
Yeah. Yeah, that you screwed up on
making the gauntlet. Yeah, that's why he had the Lego
Plus app, so he could teach him how to do it right.
The letter was not even on the app because it came out in 2021.

(34:13):
Same. So, so you mean that you had to
buy the ultra premium version ofit?
So Lego plus plus, so there. Is no.
Anyway, here, here's where I'm going.
I let me let me keep it 100. I think I would not be surprised
though is if in the next couple years you find out that WWE
purchases TNA and it puts TNA onUSA and it moves Smackdown to

(34:36):
CBS. It wouldn't be surprised.
It wouldn't be surprising to me if that deal happens like very
much hush and under the table like I don't I feel like that's
going to be a deal that is made not publicly.

(34:56):
Yeah, just because I I've I saidthis in the group chat and I
just I strongly believe it that everywhere that the UFC is
found, WWE is followed Fox, ESPN, Paramount, right?
And I just think that at this point in time, man, it's like
watching Smackdown move from network to network.

(35:16):
CW also being one that has Smackdown for a while PN right.
Then obviously USA sci-fi, Smack, Fox back to USAI.
Just wouldn't be surprised to watch Smackdown move to like
ACBS or NBC right Every Friday night on BC all of a sudden like
it's got wrestling. And I just think TNA fits in the

(35:39):
slot for USAI. Just think that as I think my
biggest downfall for for TNA wasand it's going to sound like a
for those in the comments. All right, chill out.
I think it was a partnership with AWI think Kenny, not not to
be funny, but Kenny having both the TNA and Impact title and was

(36:02):
like walking around as a belt collector.
I think it damaged that real. I think it damaged the product
because at first everybody wanted to see what Kenny was
going to do. And then Kenny just never came
to AW or to TNA. He was just defending the, you
know, he just had the titles to carry and it really didn't help
their relationship any. And there was no crossover
platform kind of essentially like what we're doing now.
But it's really weird to me thatit's really weird to me to see

(36:26):
how high WWE thinks of themselves that they had
everybody that came off of AW automatically outside of Cody,
right outside of Cody automatically went right to NXT.
And then the guys from the TNA also went over to NXT.
Like it was like it was almost to the point it was like, well,

(36:47):
you don't know how to wrestle the WWE style.
So we're just going to put you guys here that.
Sounds totally true. Name.
Name another person outside that.
Penta, Rusev, Ray Phoenix, none of them went to NXT when they
came. Who was the former WE guy?
I'm not going to count. I'll I'll give you, I'll give.
You penta Ray? Well, yeah.
I'll. Give you those three?

(37:08):
Yeah, I'll give you those three.You fair?
We'll put the majority of it. Majority wise no, I agree with
you, but. I mean, Lexus King, Ethan Page,
Ricky Starks, Where are those guys at?
All. About Lexus King, Yeah.
Jordan. Is though.
I think NXT needs those three. That's the point.

(37:29):
What's that? I feel like NXT needs those
three right now, Like main roster right now is there's a
lot of people up there, right? Now, but they have so many like
look at the talent though, that look at the talent that TNA has
and they bring over to work these NXT guys like the Rascals
are over there and working thoseguys.

(37:50):
You brought the Hardee's in, they were the TNA champions.
You brought them right into NXT like and you know, I know that
they're talking about the one more run or whatever.
Then you talk about Rosemary also coming over, right?
This is a legend in the game that we're talking about and
she's over here just in TNA like, but we have not seen her
like work with Alexa Bliss or Bianca Bellaire or Ria Ripley.

(38:12):
Like this is a person that we know in the room.
Actually, I would like to see her on Rod.
Smack. What about?
What about Oh girl, oh girl, that was she was on NAC.
Now Fade. Is that right?
You can talk. About oh, oh, Mara, Mara, Mara,
Yeah, Mara shot it. Shot it, yeah.
Where did she left NAC went right right the TNA and like you

(38:39):
know, she may cross back over. You may see her again pop up on
NXT. You're not going to see her on
the main routes and she's she's AW product like that's that's my
problem with it right now. I don't think TNA needs to be on
the main Russell right now. I mean, that's just me.
I don't think it would benefit that many.
I think it would. I don't think so either.
Like, yeah, but I feel like theygot to finish whatever they're

(39:03):
doing with NXT right now. Whatever all of them they're
throwing right now between NXT and TNA, it's got a finish.
They can't just, I don't know, like and and like a simple
strategy, let's be honest, like that these kind of spreading
their roster thin and so now they're going up against 3

(39:24):
instead of 1. Right.
But my point being though, is that if I'm if I'm looking at
that the NXT or that the the TNAguys are on the same level as
WWE, let's just call it this right?
I'm looking at I'm looking at bra and smack down.
It's almost essentially saying that like WWE is essentially
saying you are on like TNA is not on the same level as our

(39:47):
main roster guys, but they are kind of on the same level as our
developmental guys. And that's what I think.
And I get that the relationship.Maybe you say you have these
guys from TNA come through and help teach like.
The NHC guys had. AI feel like they're doing, like
they're helping. I would like to see I would I'll
be fair, like I would like to see like I I'll say I'd like to

(40:09):
see Moose like up on the main roster working somebody else
talent like I you know, I mean like there's there's a Eddie
Edwards deserves to be like working on a smackdown show, you
know, I mean like. There's a lot of people in there
that that like, I would do fine.Yeah, one large smackdown.
I'm just trying to see the X division at WrestleMania.

(40:32):
The can I get AX? Yes.
Can I get AX division match? Can I get a?
Shake your head. No, Nobody.
No. I've I've and I stand by this.
I still stand by this, the X division still, I mean, outside
of sorry moves, outside of movesholding that X division
championship, that division hands down still the greatest
division of like in the rosters like.

(40:52):
Close enough. There's not there's really not
one that like compares to it like that division is always on
fire ever since it was you know,AJ Styles and you know Chris
Daniels and all those guys coming up and just like we were
talking about it time and time again, like how great this
roster was Chris Bay talking about ace Austin talking about

(41:13):
Cedric Alexander's are right nowMustafa Mustafa Ali is there
like brother, this division is afire ass roster and like Nick
Nemeth holding the exorse you. Guys.
Motor City machine guns, both ofthem held in the exhibition
talent like yo like this division was always putting out
fire talent, bro like it's crazyI.
Was named Leon Slater. Yeah, Leon Slater right now.

(41:36):
Actually I want to see. But my problem is, but here's
here's where my problem goes, right?
It's like, OK, so the X division, we can announce that
we, I think like me personally, is, is one of the greatest
divisions. But you mean to tell me that
they can't go up and work on, I don't know with like a Chad
Gable like that, that Chad Gablethat better than?

(41:56):
Chad Gable don't exist no more. What's that?
Spanish he is nothing, not a. Thing anymore, I mean, we we, we
can't. But like Penta and Ray, who also
came from the same era. You mean like they can't work in
that they can't work those guys.Like this is what I'm talking
about. The whole entire technical
division on Smackdown. Yeah, Wesley.

(42:20):
If you really think about the whole entire tag team division
on Smackdown, for the most part could be in the X division.
Why can't I get the Rascals on Smackdown?
That would have had interesting.You don't even you don't even
have Smackdown. Hasn't been a great show though
so over the past couple weeks. And I'm just saying, yeah, the

(42:41):
Smackdown roster. Smackdown The.
Tag roster. The tag roster on Smackdown is
just kind of in a disarray, right Ever since the the TLC
match, and that's fine. So.
That's the only good thing that's been on Smackdown.
Yeah, let's throw. Let's throw the rascals on there
to like. You know we.
We're letting everybody wrestle.Why not?
Why not bring the Rascals on there or bring the Rascals to

(43:01):
Netflix? I don't care all.
Right, final thoughts. Final thoughts.
Go ahead, Twitch. I mean.
As long as they don't know the somebody dumb, I think they can
become the, the, the, the second.
I think it's going to take time,but yeah, I, I'd give it a

(43:22):
couple years of working with WWEand I, I, I think they can build
a strong case to be #2 just now all.
Right. What you got, Cliff?
Yeah, they sitting right underneath the the two spot all.
Right, Damien Tom Clark if. You.
Put your mind to it, say your prayers and eat your vitamins.

(43:42):
Anything. Oh God.
All right. I'm saying it like that because
I'm going to get really mean as the show goes on.
So that was my night. Yeah, I just don't, I don't
think they can without a proper like distribution of their

(44:02):
shows, like get on an actual TV station that can be easily
accessible, get your PL. ES or your pay-per-view, what
you want to call it, your big shows on on one of these little
streaming platforms. So people can like the
worldwide, so people outside of the United States can.
Watch it. I heard that's looking for a

(44:23):
network. You know what?
And The funny thing is this I Peacock would be perfect because
everybody's already complaining about the network being gone
next year. So Peacock probably would be the
strongest move for. Them Peacock would be a solid
move for them it. Wouldn't be.
Put weekly. Alright, let's get it.
Let's get it. We play.

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Oh, he tip. Check.
Oh, you want to do that? OK, OK, hold on.
I got it. You see, you got so much other
stuff moving around, bro. My bad.
Happens when you do not tell me to order her.
Sorry, tip check. I tip check for me and my friend
give you our hottest, our hottest, our coldest wrestlers
going into the week for a bonus match of the week.
My hottest wrestler. Here we go.

(45:07):
My hottest wrestler of the week,Drew McIntyre.
I I look, I'll buy it. I'll buy it.
I'll bite. Maybe Drew beats Cody, maybe
not, but I'll bite, I'll bite on.
And I've been liking just I likeI like troll Drew.

(45:27):
That's just what he's become. He's become the Internet troll
and that's fine that he's using that into his into his character
like on TVI love it. I'll take that any day of the
week. So definitely Drew McIntyre, my
coldest wrestler of the week is I'm going to lead into that
topic too, but it's Sami Zayn, which is crazy because he did

(45:50):
Penn solo now twice. But yeah, we'll get into that.
And my match of the week is thatFatal Four way last night from
Triple Mania, man, go watch it, go watch it.
It's reached over 1.2 million views now as far as the English
commentary version of it, if youhaven't watched it or you were

(46:14):
like I heard they were talking about it yeah it's on YouTube.
Dang. I pay none for it though.
It just just go watch it. It's really good, really great
show. So definitely go watch that that
fatal four way go ahead. Cliff, Cliff, Twitch, then
Damian. Yeah, I'm going to say cold
Wrestler of the week for me. I, I don't want to say this, but

(46:39):
I'm going to the new day. Like, what are they doing?
Man? We out here morning and still
and you know, I know last week was wearing big ass hats for no
reason, the Kung Lao hat, you know, but yeah, man, like I kind
of need them back in a ring. And I really want them to start

(47:00):
like getting this stuff togetherand, and start moving the story
forward with those guys because you can hear the crowd wants to
cheer for them and they're stillkind of like feeding them, you
know, the heat. It's just all right at this
point, like we got to we got to do something, You know, my
hottest House of the week, though.
Let me let me get let me get Sammy Zane as well.

(47:24):
I'm going to go with that. It's it's crazy to see Sammy
just coming through and just doing the things he's doing.
And I already pushed Dominic earlier today.
So that's why I don't want to say Dominic sorry, Danny, you
know, to be fair, I love it and it also I'm going to push Ace
Austin for his debut on AW because that was cool to see his

(47:48):
natural Rickshay, even though hedidn't come out to dub, I
thought it was a good match. I thought it was fair.
So I was like alright, cool. What kind of like that were
which time this do this? My match a week, though, is
going to be Roxanne Perez versusEO Sky because that.
That match was great. Let me tell you something you're
right that match was awesome andlike sucks that it was like the

(48:09):
beginning of the week. That's the one thing I hate
about Raw is Raw does have fire matches.
Raw will put on some banger matches.
The show may be schizophrenic like it may be all over the
place, but at least the matches are like and on If I was a
melter rating skill at least four stars.

(48:31):
I really haven't seen a real badmatch on Raw, really on Netflix,
but yeah, that that match was fired.
No, Yeah, that's my honorable mention.
Yeah. Trick Williams is my coldest
just for being Trick Williams. That's it.

(48:56):
How does Carmelo and Match of the Week that tag match they had
with Fraxi? OK enjoyed that tag match.
Actually, I'm. Gonna hate you twitch.
I'm muted. Blah.
Oh man, I hear laughing. That that that totally.

(49:18):
Explains a lot. My my hottest match of the week
is from TNA Emergence. It is Leon Slater versus Cedric
Alexander for the X Division championship.
That shit whoops fire my coldestof the week.
I said it at the beginning when we did pusher Berry.
I'm going to name the coldest asthe motherfucker with his hand

(49:41):
up that puppet's ass. Fuck you Finn Balor.
You're my coldest of the week. God damn no better my hottest of
the week. I don't want to say down because

(50:02):
we, I feel like everybody just hyped him the fuck up out of
nowhere. But yeah, I got to go, Dominic.
Like it's let's talk of that popthat he gets when your champion
is booed out of the God damn arena for someone who doesn't
even work for your company. Like it's about this.

(50:26):
Look at the they're bull. They're bullying him because
they, they, they love Del Rio down there.
And he beat Del Rio. Yeah, I know.
And. They, they're like you plant,
you industry plant and yeah. And it, it sucks for him and

(50:48):
it's A and they needed to turn him heal.
That's why I thought they would.That's really why I thought they
were going to take the butt off him because it's just not
working. They and Ray talking about I'm
going to bring him back. Woof but bro, that was that was
harsh. Probably.
Got food out of the arena beforehe even showed up.

(51:10):
Man, you're taking up a lot of my Sunday.
Well, excuse the fuck out of me,prick.
Somebody talking? Yeah, we all talking.
What are you talking about? I see y'all 2 talking.
Yeah. He's being a douchebag because

(51:31):
we're about to talk about Chris Jericho here soon.
Chris Jericho. Oh, good.
Go ahead, Cliff comments. Oh, no, we go.
Yeah, yeah, no comment. All right, cool, here we go.
Before we get to Chris Jericho, Topic 2, Sami Zayn and we're
going to talk about Smackdown. All right, Sami Zayn Smackdown

(51:54):
mid cut Elevation or is it a Bloodline rerun?
So like I said earlier, this past Friday night, officially W
has moved Sammy of Smackdown allright, and he's kind of in this
feud with solo. He told Solo he's going to take
the United States championship from him.
So he's got his intentions, known for the US title, but the

(52:19):
Bloodline Solo, I'm not sorry, not solo.
Jimmy and Jacob and the rest of the MFTS and all of the Samoan
world order are looming around in this story.
So does this move give Sammy a fresh chance to shine?
Is it a fresh story, or is WWE just circling him back into
Bloodline territory? What do you guys think?

(52:42):
What do you think, Cliff? I think that we need to
acknowledge the. Samoan world older.
Where's Mr. Golden when you needthem?
Right, Yo, I don't know man, I that's a lateral move because
like it is because like I mean, what was Sammy doing on on raw?

(53:08):
He was working in the mid car storyline with Karen Cross once
that he got all kind of didn't work out what they do just move
them laterally to another story with mid card intentions.
And yeah, it's a lateral move. It's not good.
It's not bad. You know, I mean, like you still
getting his name put in there and he's around one of the

(53:31):
hottest acts as far as Jacob goes.
And then the MFT is obviously doing their thing too.
But yeah, you kind of sticking them back into the holes.
You know, you're back into this whole line thing and Samoan
being that's going on here. So I get it.
I just I'd like I said, it's a lateral move.
It's nothing. It's not up, it's not down.
He's just, he's just stuck in a vortex right now and hopefully

(53:53):
they can break him out of eithergoing into being the US champ
and running with that or he justgoes into, I don't know, like
give him a championship at some point because this man has been
working his ass off and deservesto get at least one run with the
title. Ain't gonna happen because WWE
don't give a fuck about Sami Zayn and that's been obvious for

(54:16):
such a long amount of time now. You had a great storyline going
with Carrie and Cross, and now where are you?
Back with the Bloodline. I give it two weeks until we're
calling you the Honorary Goose again.
Get the fuck out of here, dude. Either either push this man like
you've been doing when he was with Carrie and Cross, or just

(54:37):
I. Had one already.
Push him to the side and go on with somebody else.
Like this is, I feel like an LA Night story.
We're pushing you. We're pushing you.
We're pushing you. Oh, look, a new toy.
We're pushing you. We're pushing you.
Oh, look, another new toy. Like, why, why, why is Sammy
constantly getting the short endof the stick?

(54:59):
And I feel like that's what thisis.
You're going if, if, if they putyou back with the bloodline,
which is obviously the directionthey're headed, that just shows
that they have nothing planned for you and they don't know what
to do with you. Well.
It's also like. That's the it's the safe option
because like, yeah, we ain't gotnothing for you, as you know,
let's go, go and. Go be Sammy.

(55:21):
And the other part, though, is that it's like, were we like, at
this point in time, right withinthe next, let's be real, like
within the next year, do we really see Sami Zayn as a world
champion? No, with the way that wall was
loaded up. No, no.
Even if even no no offense to Sammy because Damien can protest
to this. When Sammy showed up in NXTI was
a very big fan about that move. I remember sitting in his house,

(55:44):
in his living room, watching himand Alistair Black go at it at
Takeover. Yeah, it was good, very good
news. And I feel like since that
moment you had a a bunch of highs and now we're just
watching you slowly nose dive into obscurity.
Because I'm like, I get it's thesafe move, but how many times do

(56:04):
we see people use the safe move and it just, they end up fading
out? I don't want to see that for
somebody like Sammy. I think he's a great talent.
But to answer your question, I don't, even if raw wasn't as
stacked as it was, I don't thinkSammy would be world champion in
the next couple years. I just, I don't.
Yeah, all. Right.

(56:25):
Go ahead, Damien. All right.
I feel like there was nothing left for him to do on Rod at the
moment. I feel like if he was there
still like then he'd be in like a weird vortex at least here.

(56:45):
Like like that. That three on three tag match
was main event was really fucking good.
Match that he had with Solo was really good.
Kind of throwing them into that just adds like a little bit more
to it as far as like, I guess rehashing bloodline stuff, yeah,

(57:09):
we're stuck with that probably forever and it's not going away.
It just is what it is. And yeah.
Is that what Sammy's going to beknown for for the rest of his
career, though? I don't.

(57:29):
Think so. I, I, I don't know, I mean, but
the Royal Rumble is in Saudi, right?
Yeah. Yep, yeah, he says.
He doesn't win the Rumble. The fact that he's Syrian.
He's Syrian, they love him over there.
Yeah, but Saudi Arabia hates theSyrian people.
So. But yeah though.

(57:50):
They're going to be like Nah bro.
We like you, but we. Don't like you that much?
We'd like. Yeah, we like.
You enough to say yeah. But there is a possibility, OK.
There is a possibility. There is a possibility.
There's always but. I think the more likely response
would be somebody in Raw is going to end up winning the the

(58:11):
Roy Rumble and Sammy wins the Elimination Chamber.
I can see that also. And that's how you get him to
face, you know, whoever the the world champ, the WE champion is
at the time. But I don't know, I can see, I
don't see this as like, I don't know, a bad thing.
I guess he's on our TV screens. Well, and I was going to say he

(58:35):
has a better shot. He has a better shot to be in a
world like the champion. Yeah, no.
One Smackdown. He does.
He does. This is way too many people in
line right now are going after Seth.
I mean, I mean my friends. Put back in line.
Going after Cody right now too like.
Yeah. Well, the person that's kind of

(58:57):
like next in line, I don't want to, I wouldn't want to stand
behind him or even in front of them.
So I mean Drew. Drew.
But but let's just say this, right?
Let's just let's just put this out there.
Drew wins the title, OK? Cody challenges again, loses.
Why not? Why not Sammy?

(59:19):
Why not Sammy be putting in thatspot?
It could be. I.
Because there's a whole, you canbe like there's a whole list of
players that you can put in there, right?
Jacob, you can go with Jimmy, you can throw all those names
out there, but Sammy would be the next legitimate champion

(59:39):
that you would have on that show.
Yeah, Yeah. Well, concerned.
Yeah, I can see that. Yeah.
Until, until, until you turn Carmela Hayes face, 'cause
that's happening. We know that's happening.
Yeah, yeah. I mean the face turn, yeah,

(01:00:01):
that's probably. Yeah, we know it's happening,
but. World champion.
Not yet, no. I don't know about.
Yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah, I hear that.
Couple more years, yeah. Yeah, I hear the car.
Yeah, I don't think that's that's I don't think it's
anywhere in the car anytime soon.
But no, don't miss. You're right, he don't.
I agree with you on that one. Unless.

(01:00:22):
He roster, hey, I'm just saying his name roster ride has been
tragedy after tragedy. Yeah, because he should have
brought. Guys, what do you think on
Sammy? I think it does.
It does make sense. Number one, it just a couple

(01:00:46):
months ago, right, Paul Heyman offered Sammy to go to smack
down to stay away from all the BS on Raw.
He said no. He got his tail beat by not only
Seth and all his friends. He got beat by carrying cross,
all right. He got, you know, manipulated
mentally and all that, and he tried to play us and said, Oh,

(01:01:08):
no. You can't break me mentally
anyway. And then just for all that to
shove him right back to smack down anyway, go for the midcard
belt, because didn't Paul offer say, hey, I can get you a shot
at the title again, singing up. We can make it all work out.
He said no. Thank you so much for that so.

(01:01:31):
Sammy, Sammy, Sammy, whole thingis he wants to be world
champion. He wants to be the big belt.
Why didn't he? Why would he not go?
And then why would he now go andbe like, yeah, solo, I'm coming
for the US title. It just, it's lazy writing and
it undermines what they already did for two months ago and they
can dress it up how they want it.

(01:01:53):
They can put the US title aroundit, but the MFTS.
But this is the same thing we'veseen in 2020, whatever year that
Sammy joined the bloodline. It's Sammy and the Samoans all
over again. It's just we just changed the
different people around and we changed the chess pieces and
there we go. It's the same thing.
It's really the same thing all over again.

(01:02:15):
And like, it sucks that they never can find something solid
to do with Sammy. When Sammy gets a little bit of
traction with something, you know what they always do?
They go backwards. They throw him back with, with
the bloodline, they throw him back with Kevin.
It's it's a repeat cycle for 10 years almost.

(01:02:38):
We've seen this happen like thisain't elevation all right, Was
the question is like a chance ofelevation or bloodline realign.
No, this is what this is recycling, reduce, reuse,
recycle because that's really what it is.
They're just redoing it all overagain, man.
There isn't there's nothing elevating about this.

(01:02:58):
And it sucks because Sammy Zane is, like we always say, one of
the most hardest working people in that company, and he just
gets the short end of the stick.Like they just let Sammy build
new rivalries. We were getting something with
Carrion, then you let Carrion go.
We want cross. Yeah.

(01:03:19):
Oh, go ahead, say do it again. Do it again.
We want cross. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. We're going to give you Brock.
Yeah, my my biggest issue with this is even then Sammy is not
with the main bloodline. You're with the the second tier
bloodline because Roman and Jay are on fucking brawl.

(01:03:41):
Yeah, yeah. That's the that's that's, that's
that's the problem. That's the problem, the.
Fan fatigue. And there is fan fatigue of the
Bloodline. It's there, it's there.
You giving me the remix it's notgoing to change my the fan

(01:04:01):
fatigue. It's not I just I can't no man,
it it's not it's it's lazy it's lazy and it just we can't keep
letting this shit slide excuse my French.
I try to be the clean person with my language.

(01:04:21):
I'm not Damien. I would right, we got
disclaimer, but like it's just it sucks and like it sucks
because like I really like Sammyand I'm and we're all are behind
Sammy and you just you just takethe you know, the rug from under
him and it sucks. It sucks.
Sammy is a workhorse. Yeah, and and let him be the

(01:04:46):
workhorse. Put that God darn big big gold
with the new big gold 2 point O belt on him and let him be the
workhorse. Let him do it, Max.
Final thoughts. Go ahead, Damien.
I. Already did.
All right, cool. What's your final thoughts,
Cliff? Samien for champion, Sammy for
champion. Let's go.

(01:05:08):
I wish all right, foul thoughts.Switch what you got.
Let Sammy win money in the bank.Oh.
You want to shake you? OK, talk.
About shake the foundation for them.
I was actually going to say the same thing actually.
They don't want money in the bank.
Because at that point, if you don't have faith in him like

(01:05:32):
they've done in the past. Take the reason to build him.
Well, I mean they can also. You can build it and see what he
can do, but if it's starting to turn out that you you don't have
faith in him, take the briefcaseoff.
We've seen it happen before. Damn, you know what's crazy is I
wish that money in the bank would have happened before the

(01:05:52):
royal rumba in Saudi Arabia. Because.
Because then you let Sammy win the money in a bank.
Bra. In Saudi Arabia.
Bra would be gone, bro. I'd be laughing my ass off, all

(01:06:13):
right? I want to take a real turn right
here. We're going to one shout out SWA
our our partner promotion. They have their event coming up
this Saturday. So you are, if you are in the
Shady Grove, PA area, be there for one more mountain to climb.

(01:06:34):
Some of the matches going on theShowcase division championship
will be defended by my main man Big Machiavelli.
Prince Machiavelli versus versusa long time foe of his, Aaron
Connors. This should be a good one ever.
I haven't seen them wrestle. I actually won one in like 2.
Geez. Like two or three years.

(01:06:55):
Three years. So it should.
It should definitely be fire to see that weekend.
I'll give you the spoiler already.
Max winning because I'm not about to let him lose the
Ascension match. Winter challenges for the Crown
Championship at SW 20th Anniversary in November.
Kurt Blair versus yours truly, the Red Dog.

(01:07:19):
All right, a spoiler there. Red Dog is going to sell like
he's been selling because he won't take my help.
Damn, that's crazy. You know what it was?
Hard. Once you had taken, you took.
Out, you know, look, it was hardhaving to explain to my son why
Uncle Cliff had to get beat up by the Duffin season.

(01:07:44):
It was hard to explain. He's I was like, hey, Uncle
Cliff knew what he was doing. He knew that what was going to
happen and I say, hey, he shouldhave joined us.
He told us no, it's hard to explain.
But anyway, also the crown estimate, crown championship,
that big belt and Dino with Bentley Graham in his corner
going to face off against big Andrew Stevens.

(01:08:05):
That wants to be a good one right there.
A special feature tag team match, Harlan Lopez and King
Kahlua versus Jesse O'Brien and Mercy Boleyn.
Also the Mid-Atlantic Championship will be defended by
world famous cheeseburger. ROH Legend will be facing off
against Common MK TJ Sykes will be there of course.

(01:08:30):
Also this You're the match y'allyou know like y'all care about
the tag team match. SWH tag team championship.
Pure ignorance. Virgil Bunser bums, don't worry
about who they are. Yeah, I was.
Getting ready to ask if their name was really a bunch of bums.
Actually, I would try to fuck with that taxi.

(01:08:51):
Correct, that's what I'm saying.No, no, no, no.
Pilgrimage versus Thunder Rd. They're, they're, they're out
of, they're out of state, they're coming down, they're
travelling to get beat. So sorry that they get a payday
to lose. I mean.
Take that winner, that winner extra, that winner Purse is
coming to Pi because we got somecelebrating to do.

(01:09:11):
But yeah, that's SWA. One more mountain to climb.
So like I said, if you're in theSWA area, which is Shady Grove,
PA, you're down that area. Come on by.
So watch some wrestling. It's really good show.
SWA really got a lot of good stories going on.
Definitely go check them. Out.
Hi, Damien. You ready for it, dog?
Hold on, we do all that? No, what's up?

(01:09:34):
Good bro. And then last not least right
here, Sammy plays the underdog so well, it's hard not to use
him in the role. Big Gold 2.0 works for him.
Indeed, indeed, indeed. All righty.
David yeah, I got the. Bet.
Is Damian's dumb as of the? Wee.

(01:10:07):
Whoa, we got. To push him right there.
OK, interesting. Alright, let's see.
We know I don't like Trick Williams.
Alright, so trick is on up there.
Yep, Yep, definitely for sure. Just because what she said
earlier, Chris Jericho and I feel like Tony Khan's at fault

(01:10:32):
for this still. So Tony can go up there too as
well. Is this the all?
Star, this is the Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
And I don't know who else I don't like.
Whoever invented di Minito? You know what?
I'll give you that. You know what?

(01:10:53):
I'm not as mad as you guys are about that.
I don't know what it is. About hilarious out of me.
I don't know. Why?
I don't know either. I just I don't like it either.
I I think it's, it was the wholebig reveal, the big bag that has
triple. AI don't even think it was that.
I think it was the fact that if you watched the battle, Royal

(01:11:19):
Rumble, Royal Rumble, whatever that first match was, the people
that came out in that match, I'msorry, I don't watch AAA like
that. I probably should because it it
was a good show. But the people that came out in
that match I could not stop laughing at.
Why? Oh my God damn it, Cliff could

(01:11:45):
go on that list too now. I'm waiting for so long to just
like slide that in. I saw you moving around up there
and I was like, what is he doing?
Now you know. All right, the poll is up.
It's up. So go vote on our Twitter page

(01:12:07):
who should be Damien's Dumb Ass of the Week Trick Williams,
Chris Jericho, Tony Khan, and Dimanito.
We'll announce at the end of theshow who's going to be Damien's
Dumb Ass of the Week, but you got a full day to to check it
out. Sorry for my podcast listeners.
You miss out. You should have.
Checked out the live show. Maybe we'll put we'll maybe

(01:12:28):
we'll put the poll out for you and you can vote there on
Spotify. But yeah, go vote on who should
be Damien's dumb ass of the weekbecause here comes that fire hot
debate that I'm ready for Damiento start laying everybody out
and I'm ready to get cancelled and pulled off the air.
All right, here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, Topic 3.

(01:12:48):
Where should Chris Jericho go next?
I already know where Damian's going to say and I can't wait to
hear it. So do I.
They're close. AW deal is coming to a close.
The report saying that around December is when his deal
expires. So it's sparking speculation

(01:13:09):
about where is the web, the new web.
I forgot he's not the Otto. He is the new web where his next
move is. So when his deal expires, should
he return AWWE, should he stay with AW re up that contract or
shock the world with something totally different?
Damon, you are going last. I will start.

(01:13:31):
I'm going to mute my mic first. I'll start this one off.
I want to shut up. Hold up, hold up.
Take about 8 minutes. I need to go smoke a cigarette
roll specifically. There's no way you're about to
go smoke a cigarette. Look, you would look I need, I
need to make sure my blood pressure doesn't cause a heart

(01:13:52):
attack. Oh my God.
This man here is not the a wholesmoke break in the middle of the
live stream. Ubi, you wait till Michael walk
away. You make sure.
You got to come in studio and weget these hot debates and you
can't leave. He's so scared of everybody's
comments he had to dip out. Yeah, I know.

(01:14:14):
I know he's I know he he just probably took like the shakes as
he went off that camera. Like, all right, look, all
seriousness, I want him to shockthe world and go to TNA like I
really do. It's he hasn't done it.
Jericho was he's he's really about reinvent, reinventing,

(01:14:35):
doing something different. He hasn't done it if you want
to, no. It's funny.
We can piggy back up to topic one if you want me to believe
right that TNA can take #2 and kick AW to the side.
You take their big star that made them #2 in the first place.

(01:14:55):
You take the guy that solidifiedthem in the first place, and
then you go show me ATV deal. Show me that you want TNA to be
#2 that's how you do it. Show me something shocking.
Shock the world. Jericho's all about making some
making buzz, right? And I do think with the constant
of and we're going to call it out like the recent stuff with

(01:15:18):
AW, his recent iterations have not been the greatest.
That is me being nice. Damien will tell you otherwise
in very short and harshal terms and words on how he feels about
his those couple of runs and what they were.
But let's just say they weren't great.
It wasn't up to what we know as Chris Jericho can do inventive,

(01:15:39):
creative, sure, miss, hit and miss, probably miss.
But I want him to go. It's it's fresh, OK.
And if he is on his way out, what a better way to start
putting that TNA talent over that's over there getting giving
some of them the rub. And not only that, some of the
like the the veteran stars that are over there in TNA, like you

(01:16:02):
can't tell me it's even like my my personal belief on Moose and
moose, like moose versus Chris Jericho would would slap.
Yeah. Leon Slater versus Chris Jericho
with slap. You were telling me no.
Yeah, because I know. That's crazy.

(01:16:22):
I I'll be fair. I'll be fair.
I'll be fair. Let me, let me.
Let me. Let me give you why.
Let me give you why Real quick. I'm really I'm not done.
My point, that's it. I was really and I was just like
more examples environment. He can reinvent himself once
again, like and even he can waitdo the nostalgia gimmick for all

(01:16:44):
I hear do that I would like do something like TNA is is is
fresh territory. So I my pick is hey go to go to
TNA. Yeah, I'm just gonna say it just
seems that like when Chris Jericho wants to work with like
the younger talent, like he he isn't, he isn't hanging like we
kind of expected to. And that's why I was like, no,

(01:17:06):
like he definitely does a lot better when it comes to like
bigger. I don't want to say it like
older talent, if that makes sense, that can still like help
him look good because like I didn't really like him when he
was working with that. That let me be fair too.
He has the eye for seeing talent.
But as far as like, like workingwith those guys, like, yeah, not

(01:17:30):
not happening. But you know, Eddie Edwards,
he's working with Matt Cardona, like those.
I could never see it. No, for me, it's I think you go
back to the when you go back to E, you hang it up after your
run. Like I think that's I think
that's fair. I mean, you know, they can use
him there. He can kind of help get over
some of the old, some of the newer talent that's over there.

(01:17:52):
Plus there's still a lot of familiar faces that he worked
with at AW and I think he goes there and I think he works with
those guys. He can always drop down to NXT
and he can help elevate the talent at NXT.
He can work with the TNA guys atNXT as well.
You know, so there's a lot of different options as far as
there goes by thing just going back to the E then making like
one last run on at the at the title before you kind of like

(01:18:12):
get ready to hang out the boots.I want a break from the one last
run joint. I feel like it this is 1 after
another after another did like the past couple years.
Yeah, well, that's because all of our favorite wrestlers are
getting old. Got a very valid point with
that. I don't like it.

(01:18:34):
I don't like it. I agree with both of you.
I would like to see him in TNA because it's fresh, it's new,
it's somewhere you haven't been.It it gives you a chance to work
with other talents, some you already have, some you haven't
before. I agree with Cliff.
I would love to see him back in WWE for the simple fact that I

(01:18:56):
would love to see Damian jump ship again.
This is the greatest one he's ever had.
He's the greatest of all time. I love him to death.
I've seen this before and it happened almost exactly like
this and this is the only reasonI want him back in to eat.

(01:19:20):
Damien. How you doing buddy?
If he goes back to WWEI guess I got to start watching.
AW fuck my life, my life. You would never.
You know where I want this *** to go.

(01:19:40):
There's a few nice retirement places here up in Utah that's
like near the mountains, you know, 3 square meals.
Look, there's even a place that he can go like if he can still
able to drive himself and he gotan executive chef.
Hell, I used to work there. So you know that they know what
they're doing. You know what I mean?
Like, that's what I want to see.I've been enjoying his name not

(01:20:07):
being brought up. Why?
Disturb my peace. I mean, I, I think he retired
when he showed up at New Japan, so.
I thought his work in New Japan was pretty good actually.
So cute, I would have said. I would have said at like

(01:20:29):
towards the end of the inner circle when they let MJF in the
inner circle, that's when I'll say like, all right, cool.
He retired after the inner circle.
I thought I would say there. But what?
Yeah, now he retired. Like, no, he left WWE.
He he he retired. I'm going to go back to, I'm
going to go back to 2020 and find a clip of you praising

(01:20:52):
Painmaker. You wait.
I highly doubt you're going to find one.
So it might take some digging, but I.
You know what? No, because if you find one,
it's because you made it with AI.
There you go. It was not fucking me.
You ain't got no motherfucking proof.
And fuck you Chaz for trying. How?
I accept this mission. Well, with that being said, I

(01:21:16):
don't want to watch AW. There's TNA, but.
He might pop up on there like he's going to be doing wrestling
for me. Damian, can I ask you one simple
question? What?
If Jericho was to show up in in the E again, is this going to be

(01:21:42):
a case of how you were with one Phil Brooks?
No. Because I remember you cursing
his name and if you saw him in public, it was on site and the
night he came back to the E right, you hopped right on his
job. But do you know why I did?
Because of what he did before heleft that.

(01:22:02):
Is that is fact that is factual that I have?
It's not like it went little bitlow, different if he just showed
up. It's how he left.
OK. It's how he left.
You can't blame me for asking. No, no, I understand.
No, no I understand that. It's just this would thing with
Jericho is just way fucking different.

(01:22:24):
OK, no, I I respect that. I just.
Like I've been painful. I've been through this before
with you, with Phillip Brooks, so.
Yeah, I yeah, I know, I know as.And we love Phil Brooks on the
Three Count podcast. I guess look.
If I have to be honest, looks like we talk about Phil Brooks.
Like First Take talk about the Cowboys, that is.

(01:22:45):
True, he always comes up somehow, some way.
Look. Like in.
Truth in truth he probably is going to go back there to finish
The only I guess plus about it is the fact that they're they
will tell him no they better again.
If they don't then I got to watch fucking AW damn you.

(01:23:07):
I think that happened in the head.
Damn, you want that do. You want that to be?
No, you're right. I'm gonna stop fucking watching
wrestling on a fucking weekly basis.
That's what is going to happen. You're lying to me.
OK, I guess I'll be paying attention to MLW and and all
those indie companies who. Phillies start spilling up
there, haunting your dreams at every turn.

(01:23:30):
Stop saying that, yo. Stop.
Stop like at this point I'd rather RVD come back.
You need to leave that man alone.
I love no, actually, there's somebody that took RVD spot on
my ship list. No, no, Jericho has his own

(01:23:51):
special wing. Like there's like there's like
this big ass worm, like a wing that's just all for Jericho.
Matt Riddle, he has taken has taken his spot that *** fuck him
to the thirdest degree. He gives all potheads a bad

(01:24:13):
name. Hell, he gives white people a
bad name. He needs to stop.
No, no, I am so sorry for you, Corey.
I am sorry that like y'all gottalike he's got to be a part of
like your society. As a delegate of the white

(01:24:35):
people, we, we at, we advocate and deny his his access.
We pass him look. You know what?
Hispanics. We don't want them, I thought.
We're not taking them. You're you're, you're, you're,
you're black, not Hispanic. Yeah, I was.
Just I, I, I I will X that real.Quick, you don't count, you're

(01:24:57):
from Panamania or whatever. Which is in Latin America, it's.
Like, that's as close as we're going to get right now.
You know what? Where's?
Lou. Oh my goodness, we did.
Riddle come in. We're talking about dude.
He's a shit stain on wrestling. Out of my arm.

(01:25:24):
Like no, he is one of those people that I bet not ever cross
paths on the Indies because I will punch him in the Dick and
he ain't going to do hit about it.
So all I'm trying to say is he better not cross paths with me.
And. Watching this, if you watching
this, Matthew, like I'm being dead ass, you ain't going to do

(01:25:47):
shit but let it happen. And I'm a whisper in your ear
when you fall into the ground and say you know why?
Fuck you and everything that youstand for so.
Back to Jericho. Oh yeah.

(01:26:08):
As far as man, you know what? I'd rather watch fucking Chris
Jericho than a fucking deal withMatt Riddle.
What? Happened with.
You at this point, but I'm just saying, well, there's levels to
this shit. Final thoughts.
Back to the east. Come to Utah, there's plenty of
retirements for you to go. Iron Mountains, beautiful girls.

(01:26:30):
I'm trying to tell You Beautiful.
Quiet, Damien said. Requirement Home.
That's where he needs to go, Heard.
Twitch DNA DNA real quick. Oh my goodness.

(01:26:54):
You back to the back. You know the fucked up part
about is the smoke break didn't fucking help.
I should have like, well, I'm having a drink, a lot of
cocaine, some acids. All right, Cliff, your.

(01:27:14):
Title. Thoughts I.
Just. Said back to the E.
Very cool and putting in my clothes.
For. You're hanging out with Tony
Gahn, huh? Well, at this point I'd rather
fucking hang out with Tony if that means fucking Jericho's not
on my TV no more. Hey, TJ said.
We hate Norm Riddle. He's in.
Gosh. Oh, I'm OK, you should go into

(01:27:40):
retirement. Exactly.
Marty. Ariel just tuning in.
We hating Riddle? I'm in yes.
Yes we are. Fuck you Matthew Riddle.
I hope you stub a fucking toe. I hope you get Gang Green and
die like just both way you know,fuck him.

(01:28:03):
I don't know if the disclaimer can handle all this.
Yeah, you. Know, I hope it doesn't.
And look and look Matt, if you want to know where I'm at, I
live in fucking Utah. I am not fucking hard to find at
all. Wow.
He has said. Tom Jazz has.
Fallen out of his. Seat Chaz has Chaz has fallen

(01:28:24):
out of his booster chair. He's.
Got to hate him. Well, first show back and you
guys have seen, you guys have seen.
I wouldn't wish Utah anybody a Haiti or left Matt.
Washington. Oh no dude, I understand.

(01:28:45):
You're told mania. Mania again.
No, please don't, Please don't because I plan on going to bed.
Like don't know. Like no, no, he deserves to be
here. Jericho versus.
Matthew right here. Inventing WrestleMania Night 10.

(01:29:05):
My God yo I swear I will be banned from WWE events for the
rest of my life. You might.
They might not even let me watchon Netflix anymore.
I show up at fucking Mania and this nickel walks out trying to
tell you I'm getting in trouble for terrorist attacks.
Wow. God, whoa, we need to.

(01:29:29):
Go. We need to go the show.
The show. This is the slavery.
It's just all of the show now trying to figure out what we're
talking about. Oh my gosh, we're.
Talking about fucking Chris Jericho.

(01:29:50):
So hard he's going to need inhaler like Becky lifted every
problem versus fear. Oh no, I'm gonna have to.
Go get my blood pressure checked.
Oh, OK. Oh my.
God, hey, yo. All right.
Hey, thank. You go ahead, Cliff.

(01:30:12):
Yeah, I. Can't.
Yeah, I can't do this. All right?
Dumbass is weak. Let me let me pull this out real
quick for y'all. Yeah, he's going to post it
while you're on. Here, it's probably going to get
worse. Yeah.
It's up there. Wait a minute.
Alright, wait. Alright, so let you guys know.

(01:30:34):
Alright, so right now for the dumb ass sort of week, you
actually still go on the vote. You have another 23 hours Trick
Williams at 0%, Chris Jericho at0%, Tony Khan at 33% and your
winner currently, Demonente. Yes.
Thank you. Dimenito is at #1 so that's who

(01:30:56):
that's who it is. Kendrick level Hayden still
working in 2025 got. Dimenito on the list.
All right, look, I have to say for this one, if you made it
till the end of this show, my PlayStation users, you get look,
you get this is your platinum trophy because this one was a

(01:31:18):
wild one. My Xbox users, you get an
achievement. My PC users, you know what?
I'm not even going to shit on you today.
Thank you for watching you get an achievement too.
God, they're getting like a $5 off on street on Steam or
whatever. I accept that I accept.

(01:31:39):
That look thank you for checkingoutlook the whole crew the full
is back. Thank you for tuning with us for
the The Red Dog and Friends era.Nothing wrong with the Red Dog
and Friends era. Don't do that, Cliff.
I actually like Red Dog and Friends.
It was a nice tamed show. Very.

(01:32:00):
Then me and Damian came back andjust started yelling at each
other. And then where?
Then. Oh yeah, now more people are
watching us yell at each other. Thank goodness.
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(01:32:44):
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(01:33:05):
retirement home. Knowing Damien, he's going to
start a GoFundMe for Jericho's retirement fund.
Be on the lookout, we're lookinginto it.
Look, there's a several places Eve works at.
A nice one too. Oh yeah, and I got him.
I can get them in there. Cheat.
Oh my God. By the way, I wish we could
change, like trade Ozzy Osbournefor Matt Riddle.

(01:33:27):
God, wow. All right, we've done.
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THE 3 COUNT PODCAST PRESENTS CHAZ AND FRIENDS - THE ONE WITH DAMIEN'S RETURN...AGAIN!!!

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}THE 3 COUNT PODCAST PRESENTS CHAZ AND FRIENDS - THE ONE WITH DAMIEN'S RETURN...AGAIN!!!