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Rampage Jackson’s Son Shoot – Work Gone Wrong or Indie Danger Zone?

• Context: Raja Jackson (Rampage’s son) went off-script at a KnokX Pro show, assaulting wrestler Syko Stu. Rampage called it a “work gone wrong,” but fans are questioning indie wrestling’s safety.

• Debate Question: Is this just an accident—or proof indie wrestling has a growing danger problem?



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Wrestlepalooza on ESPN – Innovation or Fan Cost-Cutting?

• Context: WWE’s Wrestlepalooza (Sept 20) will be the first U.S. PLE airing on ESPN instead of Peacock, sparking concerns about juggling subscriptions.

• Debate Question: Is this WWE making a bold move to grow their reach—or alienating fans by driving up costs?



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Forbidden Door – Still Special or Losing Its Touch?

• Context: AEW x NJPW’s Forbidden Door has been a dream card event, but fans are starting to say the formula feels predictable, with repeat matchups and diminishing shock value.

• Debate Question: Has Forbidden Door peaked, or can AEW keep it fresh and must-see?

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(00:05):
Yo, what's going on, Ladies and gentlemen, It's your host, your
boy, your nephew, your cousin, Chaz the Don.
I'm here with another awesome and hot episode of Chaz and
Friends, but let's get on to it.Let's go.
Let me tell you what we got on the dock today.
First off, tonight we're pullingno punches.
We got to talk about Rampage Jackson, son, wiling out at Knox

(00:27):
Pro X All right, Knox X Pro. Was that a work gone wrong or
was that clear as day assault that proves why commissions
don't trust wrestling to regulate themselves.
Then we shift gears to Russell Palooza.
WE is putting on it on ES early.Is this innovation to reach more

(00:50):
fans are straight up counter programming to cut AW off at the
knees and finally, AW Forbidden door was earlier today a hot
show nonetheless, but some say it's lost its magic.
Me, I still call it dream match season regardless, but can AW
keep the magic alive without running back the same play push

(01:10):
bury it temp check Damon's dumb ass of the week.
We're bringing all the smoke tonight, all right.
Our takes are hitting harder than a super kick and the facts
don't flinch. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Chaz
and friends. The following program.
It's a collection of. Idiots talking about happenings

(01:31):
in the sports entertainment world.
It is meant to be cometically informative.
The opinions expressed on this show does not necessarily
reflect the beliefs of their peers, their bosses, platform,
or whatever network they are on.There may be some out of pocket
things said on this show becausethis is how we talk to each

(01:52):
other. If you are young, please seek
permission before watching any further.
Your homies The Three Count podcast.
PS Please do not. Sue us, it's your boy, your
nephew, your cousin. It's the dawn.
Chaz Evans, you're checking out the hottest podcast in the
world, the Three Count Podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, let me

(02:26):
introduce to. You, my friends, OK?
Because they're important. They're the backbone of this
show. If without my friends, this show
is not a show, it's just Chaz. And quite frankly, I don't think
any of you just want to see me. So ladies and gentlemen, let me

(02:46):
introduce to you first. He is the landlord of the dog #
and he is the current and reigning and defending Supernova
Infinite Plus network champion of all the world.
That's him, Red Dog right there.Current, reigning and defending.
He is also, ladies and gentlemen, the number one
contender for the SWA Crown Championship.

(03:08):
Ladies and gentlemen, he is my friend.
He's your friend. He's your friendly neighborhood.
The Red. Dog A It is the Air Force
veteran Intel specialist, the one you call on when you get the
job done, and your friendly neighborhood red dog.
Also the man behind the scenes that sometimes you can't quite
hear but leaves other people kind of like stuttering as

(03:29):
they're trying to figure stuff out.
Look, my cold open would not like it froze and it wouldn't
pop up like I was like, come on,I got 8 seconds left, come on,

(03:52):
come on. It just it froze.
So I'm like, all right, I remember.
Well, I know what we're talking about, but yeah, there you go.
Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, last but certainly not the
least. All right?
He's a full man. All right, there.
There's nothing broken about that man right there.
Do you understand me? Don't you let.
Don't let the gram fool you, OK?Don't let social media fool you.

(04:15):
There is nothing wrong with tit twitch graves.
Absolutely nothing wrong with him.
Ladies and gentlemen, he's my favorite Red Hat wearing big.
Ass motherfucker falls apart on you.
I hope your son grabs it and just chucks it across the room

(04:38):
after it took you 3 weeks to build it.
I'm not. You know what?
I'm not, you know, Hey, hey, youabsolutely flame him because we
only ran late because Chad showed up in a purple button up
shirt and we flamed him and thenhe ran and changed shirts.
We started late because of him. Yeah, here.
Looking like, you know, a skinnier version of Prince.

(05:01):
Prince The. Skinny.
First of all, Prince was skinnier than me.
OK, let's he was he. No, he was not.
He definitely was not. OK, I'm act.
I'm taller than Prince. I don't believe that.
I I am How tall was Prince? How tall was Prince?
Look it up How tall was how tallI'm Look it up How tall was

(05:21):
Prince? How?
Tall are you? I'm 5/8.
On a good day with his with his shoes.
No, with his shoes, I'm five. He won 5/3.
World that you're taller than. You said Prince is 5/3.
Don't lie, Yeah. 5/2. That make yourself seem taller
than him. 5/3 he says the prick.There, Prince was 5/2.

(05:45):
Five. Well, that's it.
Well, wait. What?
What? What?
What? We don't know. 5358, that's what
we'll say. Whatever.
Anyway, thank you for joining us.
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(06:05):
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later. Thank you for listening, but you
need to go check us out on Sundays for the live show.

(06:25):
So you're just not, you know. Also, if you guys look in the
back, Chaz's key blade is slightly just turned a little
bit because Chaz was like, let'ssee if this kid talking talk and
he was playing like guitar. Like now he was in his purple
button up shirt. He ain't trying to.
He's he's trying to hide it. OK.
Like Chaz will never deny that he's a Prince fan and most of us
are right. But Chaz was going over the

(06:47):
board. He was just like, yeah, he had
his hair curled up and everything too, trying to slick
it down. Like I was like Dang, dude, this
crazy. He tried real hard to get that
guitar solo from Purple Rain and.
Yeah, he didn't. He was there and he was just
like, he was like, you guys takea request.
Here's 1 little red Corvette. This is what it sounds like when

(07:09):
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(07:32):
Share this with everybody. Shout out to our pro wrestling
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Chad? All right, let me tell you.
Oh, wait, never mind. I I realized what I was about to
say and I'm about to No wait, never mind red dog.
Hey Chess. Anyway, make sure.

(08:00):
Oh, that's the greatest comment of the show.
Go on chess. Yeah, I think I wanna know.
You know you. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
It's the wrestling show. We're literally showing that was

(08:20):
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(08:44):
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CJ definitely does reminder on the content schedule that Chaz
and friends you seeing the live show on Sunday nights, six PM
6:30-ish depending on how everyone life works now entering
the ring. You'll get that interview with

(09:05):
on Saturdays and then the villains lounge.
Watch alongs are normally duringduring pay per views.
We are bringing back the watch along news show which will come
back on Thursdays. It's working pending.
OK, so that's coming back, but you'll know when that officially
makes a full return. Shout out when I will do.

(09:26):
I'm gonna do it now, but shout out to SWA.
Big shout outs. Big shout outs to them, they had
their The Show 1 mountain to climb last night, so I just want
to read off the results real quick and then we'll get right
into our show. So S AA one more mountain to
climb results, the Ascension match.
Like I said earlier, Red Dog defeats Kurt Blair to become the
number one contender for the best WA Crown championship.

(09:50):
You better freaking win. Please, for my child's sake.
Please for my child's sake. For my child's sake, win.
Oh. Damn.
Damn, you had to put it on that.Yeah, he wants his Uncle Cliff
to win the belt. I was getting go.
You know, real talk, I would be like which one?
True. That's that.

(10:11):
That's a true statement though. SWA Tag team championship, pure
ignorance. Defended their tag team
championship against Thunder Rd.to retain.
And with that being said, let mego do the title presentation.
Hi, Cliff. Hey, what's up?
See how he just like, walked away?

(10:32):
Right, introducing the greatest SWA tag team champion of all
time. Let me tell you something.
There were people that really thought that Thunder Rd. was
going to come in my hood and take big old gold from me.
And to all of you who thought that.

(10:54):
Big old gold. You're stupid, stop doing drugs
and you're also an idiot. I'm still champion.
It's going right back up there, right next to Cal Ripken, the
Iron Man. Full let me.
Make sure I don't fall. God, I was hoping that was going
to happen. I was I laughing there?

(11:15):
You go. Then the key base fall.
Oh. No, I'm dropping stuff.
We got a jumper. Interesting show.
Yeah. There we go now as we were.
SWA Showcase Division Championship match.
Prince Machiavelli. My Prince defeats Aaron Connors

(11:36):
to retain his championship. He finally did it.
Jesse Orion defeats King Clua tobecome the number one contender
for the Showcase Division championship.
Just to put it out there, after the match, Big Swole himself,
Chris Idol came out there and put Jesse on his back again for
the third time in three months. I I'm I got AI.

(11:58):
Got a question, Why did you emphasize my Prince that's.
My Prince, you, you, you really did put some some oomph behind
that. Yeah, that's my Prince, my boy.
I'm just no. Pause at all you like, my
Prince. Because I've never paused for
the five years I've said my Prince, and you've never said

(12:18):
anything. Then don't try to make it gay.
Now I'm going to get through this stuff and we're going to
debate. You're going to stop
interrupting me over foolishness?
You're going to stop telling me how to live my life?
Your hair looks like it's on Jerry curl juice and face.

(12:39):
I don't know what you're talkingabout.
Anyway, the SWA Crown Championship and Dino with
Bentley Graham defeats Andrew Stephen to retain.
And then the Night Miss MemorialCup.
Kenneth O Dane Conley defeated 19 other competitors to win the
6th annual Night Miss Memorial Cup.
That was as there'll be one moremountain to climb.

(13:01):
The anniversary show's coming up.
November 2nd. Be there for that one.
November 1st, Sorry. November 1st, Be there for that.
Yeah. Tip check.
Let's get it. Let's get the show started.
Tip check. Tip checks For me and my
friends. We give you our hottest and our
coldest wrestlers going into this week.
And as a bonus, we give you our match of the Week.

(13:23):
All right. What you got, Damien?
Oh, I'm about to say Damien. Damien.
Wow. Damien's not even on the show.
Always go Damien first. Go ahead, Twitch.
I know you didn't just call me Damien.
No, I didn't. I was talking to Damien.
The imaginary Damien. Uh huh.

(13:44):
My hottest wrestling of the week.
Because he's so black, you can'tsee him in the corner.
Damn, that's crazy. Not you look back there.
Dang my. Hands.
Shadows. Any who my my hottest wrestler
of the week this is honestly going to be out of out of left

(14:07):
field because some people probably didn't know he still
wrestled. CCW had a showdown here.
Not CZWCCW. That's Coastal Championship
Wrestling. Gangrel is your new World
Heavyweight Champion for them. Yeah, right.
Uh huh. And let me tell you, I'm here
for it. That match was fucking fire.
I need to go back and actually send you guys the clips from

(14:28):
that match because it was, it was pretty fucking solid for
Gangrel being like 90 years old.Gangrel OK, right.
Well, I don't know. What I'm expecting, I, I've
seen, I mean, I knew he's still a Russell Cup because he was, he
was in Maryland a couple years ago, I think at a CWI think he

(14:50):
had a whole. Training.
He has a whole training school. In Maryland, right?
No, in Florida. Down here he's got a whole last
training. School.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Yeah, a couple of, well, he had one, he left it and then he, I
think he started up another one and now he's doing his thing
there. Very expensive to go to.
Oh, hey, Oh, Chaz, actually, youmeant to.
Who's the special guest for November 1st?

(15:13):
You're absolutely right. How could I forget that?
Ladies and gentlemen, special guests on November first.
Former WWE superstar, former. I mean, I could list all the
places, but if I just say his name, you already know the
legacy and the pedigree that becomes that comes behind it.
But super crazy, ladies and gentlemen, will be at Southwest

(15:35):
A's anniversary show November 1st.
So you're right. Yeah, definitely want to make
make. Note Oh, you said that's so.
Lame bro. You've been like, hey, you know,
things are not just going to getcrazy, they're going to get
super crazy now you was over. Here.
Well, then you do it then go ahead.
You do it. You do it then I do it.
No, go ahead, do it. Don't do it again.

(15:56):
I just make sure hey. Check it out, man.
November 1st is the anniversary show over her SWA and you guys
know what? We have a special guest and that
special guest, he comes to us from the WWE.
You've probably seen him wrestling on TNA.
You've probably seen him in a EWCML AAA.
You probably even seen him working all across the world.
Things don't just get crazy, man.

(16:17):
They don't get loco naki. No, they get super crazy.
I don't know how to speak Spanish.
I can't. I don't know how to.
Yeah, they're fun. Yeah.
How to that's? My favorite character.
By the way. That's my favorite character.
All right, All right, Cliff, what you got?

(16:38):
Oh, yo, actually, all right, coldest wrestler of the week.
I'm going to be fair, man, I don't know what's going on with
Rod and Todd, but the Young Bucks definitely got to be
coldest wrestlers of the week, right?
It's just just what it is. All right, so let's just move
over to the hottest wrestler of the week.

(16:59):
You know, it's weird, man. I don't know.
They just like, you know, tag team wise.
I just think that, you know, I'mvery happy about these guys and
how they're how they're performing seems to get the
crowd gets into them a lot, right.
They start earning stuff back upwith them.
We'll get back to the Young Bucks for hot Expressos a week
and then match of the week. Let's let's let's go ahead and,

(17:21):
you know, let's just let's just put it over.
Yeah, I'm just kidding. You need a triple threat tag
match with Brodito winning over her business.
I love that tag match. I thought was great.
Yes, I'm going to go that one over everybody.
All right. My hottest, my hottest wrestler

(17:42):
is I'm going with John Cena. The promo battle with Logan Paul
I thought was really good. My coldest wrestler is Logan
Paul for getting absolutely thrashed on the mic by babyface
John Cena. My match of the week is coming
from Forbidden Door earlier today.

(18:03):
Look, Cliff, you heard me talk about it on the phone.
We talked earlier, man, we talk so much trash and we make fun of
Hiro Tanahashi's knees and how they're only up there by like,
paper clips and prayers and ducttape.
Go watch his match today with Kyle Fletcher.

(18:24):
Please. I even said it on Twitter.
Kyle Fletcher can work. He is so much fun to watch and
him and Tana man, like the best way to describe this match is
literally Picasso. And if like watching Picasso

(18:48):
legitimately in real time paint and like you're just seeing the
different strokes, you're seeinghim, you know, dip the
paintbrush and the paint different colors and stuff that
match. Absolutely phenomenal.
So that's my match of the week coming from forbidden door
earlier today, my 1B I'm going to always put over my friends

(19:12):
and y'all know I do it especially after the SWA show,
but I'm putting I'm putting overPrince Machiavelli's match with
Aaron Connors match was fire Maxbeen putting on fire matches all
year long. Like, and I know everyone's
probably like clear sheet going to say that that's your partner,
but I'm if he sucks, I'm going to tell you he sucks and he

(19:32):
doesn't He's really freaking good.
Like so that's my 1B match of the week.
That red dog match was actually probably really good too.
So that's probably my 1C is the red dog and Kurt Blair match,
and my 1D is got to be the tag match between Shapiro and
Thunder Rd. But no, all jokes aside, though,

(19:56):
but yeah, those those matches. So the Tanahashi.
French's match and Red Dogs match those 1B1A1C 'cause I
really can't decide. All three of those matches over
the past weekend were just fire and phenomenal.
Yeah, no, I have to. I like all those picks.

(20:18):
I'll be fair. Let me put this out there and
I'm going to. Peel the curtain.
Back a little bit right after your match.
Yo this man I've never I I've only seen you get hyped about
certain matches right? Like after it happens.
This man came back acting a foolbro.
Oh my God, I would. Work these guys every single day

(20:40):
you and that single matches every single day and twice on
Sunday. I did.
I did come. I did come to the back.
Look, man. And The thing is, and I pulled,
you know, pulling the curtain back, I had never seen them
work. I've heard of them, heard about
them. I never actually seen them work.

(21:03):
And when we got in there and I could tell off RIP, I could just
tell there was chemistry. And you know, when we were just
when we were going over and playing this match, we were just
bouncing off off off ideas of each other where we were like,
let's do this crazy spot. I go, whoa, you like crazy
spots, big bumps. Let's do this.
And then we were like, well, this is absolutely too crazy and

(21:25):
I think we're going to hurt ourselves, so let's not do this.
But I got something crazier even, you know, more insane.
And so, yeah, man, I don't, I, Iget hyped for everything, a lot
of stuff, but I really had a lotof fun.
And I, and I mean, when I say this, that that's probably me
personally. I don't know about Noah.

(21:46):
He probably has a different answer, but that's one of my
favorite tag matches within the past.
Two years. Damn.
Like I did like as far as the most fun I had in there, like
Thunder Rd. yeah, that they, I give them all, they get all they
get put over today because they they, they definitely true,

(22:08):
true, true, true game, true students of the game and just
all around nice people, like allaround nice people.
So shout out to Thunder Rd., Buttoo bad they're not.
They're not going to get anothershot because we beat them.
What Chad yelling about today ishemorrhoids.
Cayman and burger work too. Yes, they did.

(22:29):
They did too. Common.
That's not my match of the week.Common, common and burger work.
I realized it came in. I was like, damn it, common.
That's not my match of the week.Not that mean.
OK, alright, what's next? To wait for SWA to load the
videos up. Oh, yeah, yeah, we can.

(22:50):
Of course. I just got to wait for the
video. All right, let's go down to our
first debate topic. Boom.
All right, let's do this becauseit's been talked about all day.
People are still talking about it.

(23:11):
Rampage Jackson's son. OK, he got up in there.
I'm trying to be unbiased and, and and giving the account of
what happened. Unbiased Cliff, you, you go do
right here because I'm going to be biased.
I'm really because like, it ticked me off in an unbiased

(23:32):
way. I'll start, I'll start off with
my take first so I can get it out.
But yeah. Well, here's it so.
Unbiasedly if you guys. Didn't check it out, Roger.
Roger Jackson was live streamingsome things behind the scenes.
Kind of just kind of went viral,right?
There was a situation with like a beard, a can, and they thought

(23:54):
that there was like some things happening.
There was apologies, all sorts of things that were going on.
But, you know, during a match, you know, Raj Jackson jumped in
a ring, proceeded to hit a double leg.
And then let's just say, for lack of a better word, he fucked
this man up. Now, to be fair, Raj Jackson is

(24:15):
trained MMA fighter, right? So there's some things that are
going on there. But yeah, so Rampage Jackson
tried to kind of like smooth it out, you know, and then then
kind of, you know, he's going tostick up for a son, say some
things. So our topic for today would be
a work gone wrong or indeed danger zone.

(24:38):
So go on Jess all. Right.
Look, I'm going to tell you whatit is.
No, it's not. It's not work gone wrong.
It's not no ND danger zone. It's no clear cookie little cute
little name for it. It is an assault.
It's assault. No, no ifs, ands or buts.

(25:04):
It's an assault on a person, a human being.
This is why then This is why we have commissions.
This is why states won't deregulate professional
wrestling. This is why, because the
Midwest, and I'm sorry for my Midwest people who are watching,

(25:26):
but the middle of the country, the wrestling scene in there
just wants to go buck wild because there's not a lot of
regulations there because like, oh, it pains me because this
type of stuff can be so much easily avoidable.

(25:48):
Like was it a botch? No, that was no botch.
That was a beat down. He hit that man clear as day
about 8-9 times before he got off of him or not even got off
him before he was pulled apart off of him.

(26:09):
Like at this point, I, and I hate the fact that I'm, I got to
change my stance on this, but look, I'm at this point, I'm all
for commissions. I'm for commissions because at
this point, commissions are hereto protect wrestlers and not
just to restrict them because Rampage Jackson's son should

(26:29):
have not been in that ring. I don't care.
He should have not been in that ring point blank.
And then if and if it's true that oh Stu goes hey give it,
you can get it back to me in thering.
Fuck no. Don't you tell nobody that us
wrestlers, we have got to stop playing with this.
Stop it. Stop.

(26:52):
Y'all are going to get yourself fucking hurt.
He's a fucking trained MMA fighter who fights for real.
I'm sorry and I will tell it like it is.
US wrestlers, 90% of them don't know how to throw a real punch.
And if they got punched in the face, they are down for 10
seconds off RIP. You get back to me in the ring.

(27:16):
You're an idiot. You are an idiot for telling
that man that. Because legitimately, if that
happened outside of the ring, that's jail time.
Not a work. That's jail time assault.
It's it's absolutely silly. And they, the promotion should

(27:37):
be held responsible because theyallowed that to happen.
And on top of the fact that theydidn't smarten him up.
Everybody's at fault. There is not one person to
blame. Everybody is at fault.
Everybody because even I, and I'm going to be completely

(27:58):
honest, it's 2025. I do not think Roz Jacks Jackson
still in 2025 believes that pro wrestling is real.
I'm just I don't, I find that hard to believe that in 2025
when WWE is outright saying, hey, pal, this is a word that he

(28:22):
did not know that hey, I can't go in this ring and really beat
somebody to a pulp. There is no way, no way.
So that's right. Shame on all of them, all of
them. And it it this, This is what
makes wrestling look reckless and unprofessional.

(28:46):
This is why wrestling and especially the independents get
a bad rap and get that stench onthem because y'all do dumb stuff
for clout. I'm done.
Hey Chaz, real quick, do me a favor.
Yes. What state was that in again?
I don't know. You as in the Midwest, though?

(29:08):
I don't know. Well, that's what you said
though. You, you, you.
Put on the Midwest well. Yeah, the Midwest.
Well, because they, they're mostly the ones who do the dumb
shit and and indie wrestling. That's why I said that.
Right, right, right, right. Sun Valley, CA.
California. Even worse.
Right, OK, let me let me let me put this out there.
Do I is is everybody at fault? Yeah, 100% and and Knox Knox Pro

(29:30):
wrestling. Right.
That's what happened. Rikishi School, by the way.
WWEID School. That makes it even fucking
worse, yeah. 100 percent, 100%. That's why I'm like yo it, It's
not like it gets any better. Like it just levels.
Thank you. Everybody's at fault and like,

(29:52):
you know, a cycle, you know a cycles too.
Like our, our, our thoughts are going out to you bro.
Like speedy recovery, like 100%,I mean.
I should have said. That too you should have.
Yeah, hopefully a speedy recovery.
And and again, you know, you, you touched on it, you touched
on it like someone should have smarted them up.
Like yo, man, when you give a, you know, when you're getting
receipts, right, giving a receipt, it is like a it's, it's

(30:14):
kind of like a one and done kindof deal.
Like you make it, make it count,get get it in and get out right.
There's no reason to continue tobuddy somebody down to a pulp,
especially to the point where even as A to me.
This is where the. The crazy thought process is
like, and I don't know, and I'llbe fair, Raja, like I don't know
what's going through your mind, man?

(30:34):
Like were you seeing red? And then you were just gone and
then you just kept going at it. But like as an MMA fighter,
right? And and and there's and I know
this to be true because like we see this all the time happening
when dudes get knocked out and their hands go flat.
We know immediately that that's it's time to stop.
You know, like you got to have the control to know like, hey.

(30:55):
This is This is dead. And the fact that like another
dude got in there and like picked him up and like tried to
push him off and stuff like that.
And then he ran that person intothe buckle.
And then, you know, another guy was like trying to hold him.
Like one dude you could see clearly knew how to grapple and
was like grappling with, you know, Raja and was like, yo,
dude, like he was trying to talkto him, like, yo stop, calm

(31:16):
down, like breathe bright, trying to relax and stuff.
And dude was just not having it,you know, like he he clearly was
having something going on. And you know, there's a there's
a lot to be said about how rampage like try to downplay,
but also try to like, obviously he said like, you know, his son
had no reason to be in that position and should have been in
a position at all because, you know, he doesn't know how to,

(31:37):
he's not knowing how to turn offthe switch that gets turned on.
And he was ready to go for moments, right?
And I don't want to put this on there and be like, yo, he's
going to blame like these guys also, you know, there's that one
dude in the video, he's a cowboy.
He was like, yo, you know, we, we talked about in the back what
a receipt is. You know, you, you give him a
receipt back and you let him know, you know, and if I got a

(31:58):
problem with it, I'll, I'll stand up for you and tell you
that, you know, this. And the other like the thing
was, is that all that stuff was squashed in the back.
And that should have just been the end of it.
Like there shouldn't have been like an additional like, hey,
let's add to it. Let's keep going.
We can run this, we can make this into something like no, it
should just he should have just been dead, because the problem
is, is that, like you said, Chaz, hey, fuck around and get

(32:22):
the wrong idea, man. It's someone going to end your
shit. And that's exactly what
happened, right? This man like first of all, I'm
I'm very glad that Stu as a professional man like he got
picked up and the first thing hedid, he and he took that bump
and he was like, yo, I'm good. And it bam, that was it just one
punch and that was all it took. Like you're talking about a man
who trains for a living. Like this man's hands are lethal

(32:44):
weapons like you were getting get cracked and you need to
chill like and I think Stu probably.
Thought that this. Was just some random kid, like
he didn't know who this kid was,you know what I mean?
And. To be fair.
He saw the cameras, he probably saw a streamer.
He thought, like, you know, thisjust some average kid.
This isn't going to be anything.And unfortunately, this is the
one time where this is probably best worst case scenario, if

(33:07):
that makes sense. If I say that like you, you got
pummeled by Rampage Jackson's kid, you know what I mean?
Like, but he going to go to jail.
Like, you know, it's like, yo, that's that's the problem.
And I just it I feel bad all around for everybody in the
whole situation, because it's just a situation that should

(33:27):
have been could have been avoided, should have been
avoided. But because one person thought
that another person was in in a work, realizing that they
weren't, you know, Stu like it's, you know, was it psycho
Stu like paid the price for thatman And Lord, what you got
twitch? My my condolences to psycho Stu

(33:51):
and his family. I hope you a speedy recovery.
Unacceptable. Absolutely unacceptable.
You are a trained fighter. I don't give a fuck who your
daddy is. I don't care who you think you
are. Your brain should have been

(34:12):
stomped in in that fucking ring when you decided to take
liberties with that dude wholeheartedly from when I come
from. You should have had your ass
stomped out by everyone in that locker room in the middle of
that fucking ring. You are a piece of fucking shit

(34:33):
for that. And that's all I honestly got to
say about it. I think it is a horrible
situation. Shame upon everybody who thought
this would be a good idea. Someone out there, regardless if
it was a promoter, if it was a security guy, somebody out there
knew who that kid was. It's not like he's a nobody who

(34:57):
is training at a gym down the road.
Everybody knows who Rampage Jackson is.
You either watched him fight, you saw him in the A-Team.
Everybody knows who he is. Somebody knew that was his son.
You saw him in TNA? Exactly.
Like, come on now. Yep.
You mean to tell me that nobody knew that that was Rampage

(35:19):
Jackson's son, a trained MMA fighter, and said hey, maybe
this isn't a good fucking idea? Well, let's be fair, man, and
not that I'm, I don't want to interrupt your point, right, but
I'm just going to, I'm just going to add to it.
Hey, most, hey, let's be fair, alot of promoters out there, they

(35:39):
don't give a fuck if it gets if it gets eyes on the product.
That's that's all they care about.
Far be it from me because you 2 are still in in this business.
I have stepped away from it obviously, but from everything I
hear, no I agree with you 100%. Promoters don't give a fuck.
Not to kiss his ass or anything,but thank God for people like

(36:02):
TJ. TJ would have said that was a
bad idea. TJ would have been like hey,
who's that kid? No.
Jackson. Like, is he a fight?
No. Like, no.
No, no. No, Yeah, just I'm sitting.
Not like I said not to kiss his ass because he's a friend of the
show and shit like that, but I feel like he's at least smart

(36:25):
enough to be like you. This is a trained MMA fighter.
Regardless of who the fuck he is, this is a dumb idea.
Yeah, 100%. It it, it is just mind boggling.
It's just and then like the the the discord, I hate the word
discourse and I hate that it's now become a part of my

(36:47):
vocabulary. But the back and forth that
people are going, especially wrestlers.
Oh fuck, was in there. Rampage Jackson wouldn't shut
your dumb ass up. The same thing would have
happened to you. Sit.
Sit the fuck down. I'll.
Be fair I'll I'll say this I know I know a handful of fight
independent wrestlers that I think legit would have stood a

(37:10):
chance otherwise. Most of y'all and I may even put
myself in this category too. Would it ended up like a
henchman fighting Batman just. To be fair, I.
Wholeheartedly think I could name like two people that I know
who would have probably stood a chance, but it still wouldn't
have been a good one. Right, like.

(37:31):
Right, 100%. I then I like you're leaning
back on it. Yeah, I think I look back and
I'm like, yo, I can, I can look at some guys.
I'm like, I, I know, I know who I know they trained, I know
their MMA fight. I've seen them in the Octagon,
right. Like with like battling only a
handful of guys I could think ofthat's going to be like, yeah,
they're going to be in there. They're going to do the thing

(37:51):
otherwise. Like the majority.
And I'm talking about like 97% of people in the, in the, in the
business. And that moment, hey, looking
like, like I said, looking like a henchman.
Not everybody out here is Bane. A lot of y'all, a lot of y'all
the henchman. I just want you to think about

(38:15):
that just. Slam slam slam y'all was the
reason for the words bam and. Boof sing.
Sing. It's just.
It's Damien. What do you think about this?
About what? Rampage, your son beating the

(38:35):
fuck out of Psycho Stu. He.
Was trying to be, he was trying to, he was trying to skip this
topic. He was trying to, he was I, I
get it, I get it. He was trying.
That's why he was trying. To skip out, I'm a keep it 100.

(38:57):
Then I don't know what y'all, I don't know what y'all said, but
I ain't going. I ain't going to hold you.
Like even though I am a wrestler.
If somebody just like hit me in their head with like a beer can,
you know, they get in their hands and then you give me

(39:17):
permission to get you back. Yeah, you get in the hand son.
Now, however, like looking at the the facts of the situation,
like that kid shouldn't have been in that ring period.
He shouldn't have been there period.
He shouldn't have been part of the situation considering the
fact that he's recovering from, you know, MMA training had a,

(39:41):
you know, recovering from a fucking concussion, you know
what I mean? So it's like, and then you hit
him in the head with a can, likeI get the guy with sorry, it
should have never happened. It should have never been put in
the situation that happened. And I know that everybody knew

(40:05):
that he got mad in the back or outside.
So why did you proceed with saidangle?
So all the people and I'll probably never get a chance to
wrestle there after I say this man.
What's the name of the company again?
Knox Knox Pro Wrestling. Knox.
Pro wrestling. Knox Pro Wrestling, you were a

(40:26):
bunch of fucking idiots. You should have not had that kid
out there period. And then when you knew that he
was like piss like that over that situation, you should have
called it off so. This is so that's the other part
too. Like if you watch the watch that
stream right like. Stew, like apologizes.

(40:49):
He's like. Yo man, I didn't know I thought
you was a work here bro like does that and the other they
shake hands Ayo they they he said it to him.
He goes. You can get you can give me back
in a ring. He said it to him, you know, and
then I was like, and and I was talking to Chad.
This was prior to me even watching the rest of the videos,
me and talking to Chad chat. I was like, yo, like no one's
sparring this kid up. No one's like, hey, yo, like

(41:09):
this is this is what's going to happen.
Yeah, like nobody pulled him aside, tried to really calm his
ass down. Yeah.
And then if. You, if you look at whoever he
was with, they were filming the whole time and you see him being
aggravated the whole fucking time, yo so.
And here's the other part too, like so there's there's like

(41:30):
multiple layers that I want to add to this just because, you
know, context is like all the videos, right?
But like you have this kid upsetand then there's that guy with
the cowboy hat. I don't know who he is.
I'm sorry, OK, like I will look this up right, But he.
He's like, yo, yeah, we told youwhat the receipt was, right?
So you get, you get your receipt, you get.
In there and you you lay in the shine, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. And if anybody got a problem

(41:50):
with it, then I'll take it up with him.
Cool. OK, so now you've you've
accepted responsibility. But my man is sitting in the
front row and he's talking to somebody on the phone.
He's like, yeah, this isn't thisisn't a work.
This isn't fake, dad, this isn'tscripted, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah. Hey, yo, at no point, nobody
watching the stream, nobody in that show watching the stream
just to make sure, like, hey, Ohmy man, it's cool, calm,

(42:12):
collected. Nope, Alright, cool.
Well, when that man walked in, like it is what it is at that
point, like then you're trying to separate him and you're
trying to stop him and he's trying to fight everybody else
in there. Like clearly we have some issues
that are happening here. And like, it's like, to be fair.
And Damon, I don't know if you heard us talk about it, but this
is this is rikishi school. Yeah, I heard.

(42:34):
That's your school. Bro like you, what are we doing
he. Always.
Does I mean? He she school, Yeah.
That's like his company and that's why he hasn't said shit
about it. But you got to do it in the
hospital right now. For a very opinionated person,
you're right, he hasn't said anything.

(42:55):
Which is crazy. Crazy it is.
It's fucking hilarious. What?
Like I said, at the end of the day, in my opinion, this falls
on the fucking company. Yeah.
Y'all didn't handle the situation right Yeah, I get it.
You thought it'd be cool, but like, you can't tell me that the
people running the show did not hear about the shit in the back

(43:18):
because he wasn't like like it got loud back there and.
So one of the guys, people. Trying to hold him back.
Yeah. And one of the guys, one of the
guys that was being interviewed said that, you know, that Smith
had a bunch of his, you know, obviously we're talking about
facial fractures, lost a bunch of his teeth and that he was

(43:38):
choking on his own blood and teeth.
And then somebody reminded me that there was kids there like,
yo, this is a real thing that's happening right now.
And it's like, how is it that the last thing that's kind of
being said, right? And I'll, I'll read it because
this is, I'm reading this like right out of the USA TODAY
article too. The Jackson was told by a
wrestler identified as Melo to give him a receipt.

(44:00):
A receipt is a wrestling turn for equal response to a previous
transgression. As long as I get my lick back,
I'm straight. That's what Jackson said live on
the stream. So this man was already looking
to. Already looking to hurt him.
Yeah, let's do. That's premeditated.
After being driven to a separateparking lot during the live

(44:21):
stream, Jackson received a call from a person, apparently
Hudson, who tells him Smith is flat lined in the ring.
My bad, Jackson said in his response.
Like dude, and like I saw somewhere in here earlier, I'm
trying to look it up where he was talking about.
Somebody said something like, we'll make something out of this
like. What are we doing?
Why yeah, you go make a fucking lawsuit out of this.

(44:44):
And I get it too. Like, here's the other part,
right? Like maybe you saw this kid and
you said, yo, he kind of looks familiar, but I don't want to be
like that guy to say like, Hey, are you this person?
And you just saw the camera and you thought like, oh, this would
be look good. Like for live streaming, Maybe
he was trying to take advantage of that situation, right?
Like Someone Like You think maybe there's like 1000 or so
followers that it's going to getsome free eyes on your show.

(45:05):
But man, at some point in time, like, like, hey, this was a no
one looking at and just making sure like a 1.
Is this kid OK to like, can we can we like let him know like AO
don't smoke him like you have topull punches.
But then three like, yo, everybody's trying to separate

(45:25):
the zoo and this kid is just angry and he's just seeing red
and there's nobody there to be like, oh, we should have we
should have at least told him like, hey, here's how it's going
to happen. That's why Rampage had to say
what Rampage said was like, hey,he shouldn't have been in that
situation begin with. You shouldn't have put him in
there. At all.
And then also like I saw a videoof his name.

(45:45):
What is his name? What's the kids name again?
Raja. Raja so he did like, I don't
know where where he did the video, but he did a video
basically was like this *** was stressing like he's like yo,
like, you know, financially I ain't doing so great.
Like things are not going the way that I want them to go right
at the moment. Like I got a lot of stress, a

(46:08):
lot of things on my mind. Then you get put into that
concussion. So this *** is already angry.
Right. Like from home.
And so then you know you had that situation break out and
y'all still didn't do anything though.
That's my thing. Like if there's a fight, get
ready to break out and it doesn't even get to the point

(46:30):
where it goes the blows. You've got to make sure that the
talent is cool, especially if they're working together.
Yep, Yep. Because if you don't, somebody.
Will get hurt. Every time.
And here and. Here's the other part too,
right? Like.
And this is, and this is the thing we talk about like in in
the business and everybody, everybody on this plot, anybody

(46:50):
who's like a wrestling fan, you all know, like the, the idea,
like the business is like, you also protect each other, right?
Like like a there's three other people in the ring when Raj
jumps in, no one does anything, No.
Ref who just stands there? Yeah, my thing is I I was the

(47:12):
the guy would look like he was out on the fucking slam.
He was out on that first punch because that was slam.
I know, I think. He was, I thought, his.
Head just hit the fucking mat. I think he was.
Been rough on that slam but. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to
say. Like I think that.
Man was punched that knocked himout.
Yeah, that first punch put him out.

(47:32):
Absolutely right. Yeah, the first punch definitely
knocked him out. No, he was definitely out after
the first punch. Like for sure sure sleeping.
Yeah, any other Part 2? And what upsets me too is that
this man was a veteran too. You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, he's an Army veteran.
He's thinking like, I'm with help, take care of this, I'm
gonna take care of this for on on the side, blah, blah, blah,
blah. And then, like, you know, he

(47:53):
gets crushed. Like, you know, I mean like.
He don't even get crushed dude, he got fucking obliterated. 22
times. Yeah.
Yeah, 2220. 2 fucking punches. And I'll be fair, I'll say it
it's 21 too many. Yeah, yeah, it might be 22 too
many 'cause it shouldn't have happened, period.

(48:14):
It shouldn't have happened, but if and and let's be fair, man,
like we've all like we've all been in a ring like a when we
get when we get, Hey, we gonna deliver a receipt.
We gonna deliver the receipt. Like I remember, I remember
barely clipping somebody's nose one time and just do full on
soccer kicked me in the neck like.
I'm pretty sure other than Cliff, I've given everybody here

(48:37):
a receipt. Chaz got it for ripping my toe.
We've always been on the same team bro.
OK then. Chaz is the only one who's
gotten a receipt. No, we.
Did we? But I'm not, no.
No, we've never. Tried to.
I tried to kill somebody and I went to the rain angry from

(48:59):
jump. But then I calmed down because I
was like, I don't want to kill him.
Then he potatoed me and then I tried to throw him around and
RIP his head off and then I tagged out of the match because
I didn't. It was the safer thing to do.
But I just, I mean, this is a wild, wild situation.
And it is, yeah. There needed to be way more
communication all around than just oh, I think I got it.

(49:21):
Nah, brah. And look it back.
And let's be fair, hindsight 2020, like that's us looking at
the situation. If this situation happens live,
I don't know if any of this, andthis is this is and this is the
bad part and you all going to someone going to get flame me
out for this one. I don't know if the situation

(49:43):
changes. If it happens live.
It does it does now, right. We all going to be like, you
know, maybe we should think about this one.
But in hindsight? Previous to this.
No, no, no, not when, not when. Certain people still get signed
and still get asked to come on shows and they, you know doing
let's be fair, a Canadian destroyer off of a ladder

(50:06):
through 2 tables. You know I mean like Nah, like
it this now when we literally watched we've we've seen footage
of a man literally trying to kill another man as he throws
him off of a scaffolding. You know, I mean like I.
Remember that I watched that live.
I'm just saying like. It's.

(50:27):
It's hard for me to sit back andgo, yeah, you know what?
Like that situation have been alright.
He tased this man on top of a scalpelton scaffold.
I can't feel my legs. You ain't gonna need them.
And you know, the messed up partabout that situation is the fact
that he said he was trying to throw them to the floor.

(50:49):
Yeah. Didn't hit the ring.
Got in the way he's. At the table yeah, I'm just I'm
like, I guess I'm yeah, I think I think any prior like I said
after this, I think a lot of wrestlers are going to be like,
hey, we got we got to be cautious about this kind of
stuff. But man, prior like, you know,
we we would have been doing this.
We would and AP be fair, man. I think all of us probably would

(51:14):
have made the choice a bit like hey man, yeah, you can get one
background on us. If we made that same mistake in
some random streamer was like a show, I think I think we all
probably would have all made thesame decision.
Is we mad because it's hindsight?
You know, in a moment. I don't know if we would be that
way. Jay, you good?
I watched. I watched.
If I if it was my show. Again, that's why I'm looking

(51:37):
like. If it was my show and I was
running it and I heard about that, I would have been sending
that kid home. I've.
Done more than. Matter of fact, you know what?
I'm going to pay you for showingup.
You can't be doing this right now.
You ain't in the right straight state of mind.
Go home. Final thoughts on this one so we
can move on. Final thoughts.

(51:57):
Go ahead, Cliff. It was just a bad.
Situation and I just and I no right decisions were made,
that's all. Alright, Damian, is it bad just
because of the way that the situation passed out that I mean
like panned out that like is anybody?

(52:18):
I feel like it's just a bad circumstances of events where
it's like is anybody really responsible?
Like it's just, it's just like, just like I said, it's just bad
events after another after another that led to this
situation. That's very unfortunate and I
hope dudes OK all. Right.

(52:42):
Good. I just hope dudes good.
Yeah, my look, it's assault. That's assault.
Clear day, that's assault. Charges need to be pressed.
Like I said earlier, if it if that joint happened outside of
the ring, that's jail time, not a work.
That's my lower. He definitely needs to go to the

(53:04):
justice system on that one. Yeah.
Yeah. That's, I mean, as his father
said, you know, he like, for histwo youngest kids, he set up a
college fund. For his two older kids, he saved
up bail money. I'm being dead ass yeah 'cause I
mean it's, it's, it's not funny,it's sad.
It's just cause like it's just no no control and it's just I've

(53:28):
been like I've been just the video.
I got it up right here and I keep.
Just it's it's. Just insane, insane.
All right, let's let's let's move on.
Let's move on. Let's let's get on subjects.
Let's go, let's go, let's go to Damon.
Last of the week. I was like, oh shit, speaking.
Yeah, I'm getting Damon. Dude, TJ, All right.
All right here. We go is Damian's dumb as of

(53:51):
the. Week.
Obviously, what has to go on there is the situation in a hole

(54:12):
of that last topic. Yeah.
The company, I guess I have to put it on the company.
Knox. Yeah, Knox Pro Wrestling
definitely needs to go on there.Somebody did something.
Somebody else did something stupid this week.

(54:34):
I feel like they did and I don'tremember who it was.
I feel like it. I mean really I.
Mean OK, I'm going to be. Fair.
I don't know if anybody else is going to be on.
That yeah, this is really like A1 sided.
It kind of is. Oh, all the companies that keep

(54:56):
giving Mercedes Monet titles. Monet this fucking point she is
going to need like, I don't knowa like what the fuck?
Start holding her titles dude. I mean, like, no, I'm happy for

(55:18):
it is really cool, but that's a lot. 99 titles. 9 Why?
Why? She draws money, brother.
No, I'm looking forward to seeing her lose it.
But no, seriously, all the companies that give her all
those belts. Has she found a time to defend

(55:41):
all those titles? She doesn't.
What? What?
What do? Such.
Something happened. I mean, it's not as big as this
last thing because that's like the first thing along with
something happened that. Oh.
That's Palooza. Oh.

(56:03):
Russell Palooza. OK, Russell Palooza.
And he's really. Thinking hard on this.

(56:26):
One yeah, I know. I'm like, yo, he's got.
One, but it's just out of being an asshole and it's just to give
another one, but fucking Matt. Riddle I knew it I.

(56:52):
Hate him so much. You know I'm being serious.
As soon as we got done and I opened my fucking phone and I go
to that's the first thing I did and then go to fucking YouTube.
Shit tons of Matt Riddle shit. Hey, man.
All on my fucking phone. That's the that's the government

(57:13):
talking to you. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.
I wish your mom would have swallowed you.
Fucking can't stand you, you piece of shit.
She should have let you drop on the floor, should have gave you
up for adoption, drowned you something.
Oh my God, fucking stuck. I can hate you, God.

(57:34):
Haha let that. Anger fuel.
You I like, I just want him to like drive off a bridge one
night after the show. I'm just.
I don't think I've hated anybodythis much.

(57:55):
No, because I've never heard youeven like, talk about RVD this
way. No.
Or Tony. I can't look.
I cannot. I'm being dead ass when I say
this. I cannot meet this man in
person. I'm going to jail and he's going
to the hospital. And you know what?
I don't have an assault charge on my record.

(58:16):
Record's pretty clean. I'll take that one.
What is it? Probation.
Anger management classes. He ain't going to die.
He's going to be hurt. He might not wrestle again, but
he ain't going to die. He's officially premeditated.
Oh no, it's definitely premeditated.
It's premeditated. That's all it is.
It's a little bit more than justmaybe some jails.

(58:38):
Oh no. No, no, no.
No, no. You know what?
I'll take that. It is what it is.
What, what? What did I miss?
Fuck Matt Riddle I. Yeah, back on that one.
Yeah, that's yeah all. Right.
The the the poll is up, so go ahead and vote who should be
Damien's dumb ass of the week, Knox Pro Wrestling, Paul 9 of
Mercedes titles, Russell Paloozaand Matt Riddle bro.

(59:06):
Wait on that here. Yes.
No, no, no, no. I'm trying to tell you.
Bro, it ain't that serious. You told me we ain't going down.
If I walked past them and he wason fire I wouldn't even piss on
him. Yeah, we know.
We went through this last week, Damian.
OK, go check out the last episode.
I had people messaging me like, is he OK?

(59:28):
I I hope depression sets in and he just ends.
It all right, all right, moving on.
So Russell Palooza is on is on ESPN, right?
Is the innovation of fan cutting.
I'm sorry, fan cost cutting. So WS Russell Palooza September
20th will be the First United States PLE airing on ESPN

(59:50):
instead of Peacock, sparking concerns about juggling because
subscriptions and back to the topic that we talked about a
couple weeks ago of WB pricing out their fans.
So the big question is W making a bold move?
To grow their reach? Are they alienating fans again
by driving up costs to watch their product?

(01:00:10):
So I just went off with you, Twitch.
What wrestle Palooza? Yeah, get the.
Fuck out of here with that dumb shit.
Let me tell you, I'm not. I adamantly refuse.
I wholeheartedly will not be paying 2999 to watch your dumb
ass pay-per-view, nor will I be paying 2999 for ESPN when

(01:00:33):
everybody in this whole fucking podcast knows.
I don't watch. Sports.
Why the fuck should I buy ESPN so I can watch one wrestling
show a month? At that point, I might as well
go get a black box and go back to pay-per-view.

(01:00:54):
I mean, they also have like, youknow, you know, ultimate disc
championship, you fucker. Care about?
That bass Bass fishing championship.
OK, that might intrigue me a little.
That's, you know, that's like what?
They have AI. Listen, ESPN, the Ocho is a real

(01:01:15):
thing now and I thought it was just a joke, but yeah, I know
it's a real thing. And I've legit been seeing how
they legit had an air guitar, air Guitar World championship
this morning on and I was stuck watching.
I was not going to front. And they also had this a couple
weeks ago. They had a champion.

(01:01:36):
You ain't helping them at all. No, I'm not.
I'm not trying to. I'm trying to add.
I'm trying to add. Listen, there's two things that
we've established that you mightwatch on there, wrestling and
Bass Pro fishing. That's it.
Like. I mean, it's not, it's just
it's, it's dumb to me like stop following UFC.
You had your chance to buy the UFC and you guys passed on it.

(01:01:59):
Leave them the fuck alone. I don't care if they own you now
go the fuck away. Go do your own thing, Damien.
Oh OK, I guess I'll go. I really don't give a fuck
twitching. Friends to.
Be, to be perfectly honest with you, I don't give a fuck.

(01:02:19):
You know why? Because I watch it on fucking
Netflix. So I'm good.
I don't care. I don't give a fuck.
Put it on the ESPN and make somemoney.
Go do your thing, dude. Yeah, go ahead.
I don't care. That means I can get rid of
Peacock. Well, I kind of like Peacock.
There's some stuff I watch on there.
But anyway, no, I watch like everything on fucking Netflix.

(01:02:41):
That's why I got AVPM. So yeah, I don't care what
they're doing with that whole situation.
So I mean, more power to them. They're making more money.
Got another fucking thing right quick.

(01:03:02):
No. Shit, we're going back to their
fucking price gouging and shit. Did you know for me to go to
Smackdown? Nothing fucking special.
Smackdown for two tickets would almost cost me damn near $500.00
for Nosebleed section. Go fuck yourself WWE.

(01:03:22):
Fuck you too, Paul. I don't think he has nothing to
do with that. I'm thinking that's the person
that owns TKL. I don't.
Give a fuck that guy too. That's where all the final
decision goes to maybe Nick Con,maybe in.
Hawaii, he can go fuck himself as well.

(01:03:45):
You're not wrong. You're not wrong.
It is fucking sad. It is, I remember when I could
go for like 60 to $80.00 for twotickets, have decent fucking
seats, and still have money leftover to go get a shirt or
some shit like that. Not pay $550 plus whatever
service fees you're going to addto that bullshit.

(01:04:07):
Well, I mean and you, well you also put on the top that it's
not just them as well. Heaven forbid the arena is pass
only. Holy fuck.
Oh, don't get me started on that.
Actually Ticketmaster for this because concerts are also

(01:04:27):
concerts are also like fucking ridiculous in price too as well.
Like pretty much almost any ticket that you get on
Ticketmaster is fucking outrageous.
I've heard complaints about thisfor like a year or two now that
like people are like getting really upset at Ticketmaster for
their outrage. Ticketmaster.

(01:04:47):
You got StubHub, you got all these places that are just price
couching the shit out of you with their service fees.
Go to hell, go watch indie wrestling.
That's what you all should do. So like, I don't know, maybe
there need to be like some othernew ticketing company that these
companies can run by. So they're like not losing money

(01:05:07):
and not doing. Somebody's still going to have
to make money in the end. It's supply and demand.
I'm supplying you the tickets. I want some sort of kickback for
it. Give me free tickets, I'm cool
with that. Yeah.
So wow, I think it's so to, to, to touchback on the point that

(01:05:30):
we were all like, we, we talked about this a few weeks ago and
now it just seems like everything's kind of like
expedited a little bit more thanwhat we thought was going to
happen. Because NXT is still NXT is
still on the Peacock network. It's not on ESPN.
So you still have to have a Peacock network if you want to
watch Netflix, if you want to watch NXTPLDS and if you want to

(01:05:54):
watch anything on the library, it's still on the Peacock
network for now. There's also rumors that they're
going to move that over to YouTube.
You don't know Netflix yeah, anyof that yeah yeah, the whole the
whole WWE library to the YouTubechannel Yep.
So OK, but so Netflix right, basic, you know cable, right,

(01:06:19):
because you can have that cable now watch USA or you know,
YouTube live or whatever Hulu live.
It doesn't matter right now you need ESPN right, 29 nine to
watch the PL., the PL. ES also, you know, you're
watching TNT and TBS, right? So obviously you're still on
cable or you have HBO Max, right?
It's just it's it's crazy because like we're watching the

(01:06:41):
death of cable, but we're also not getting anything in return
to kind of alleviate that. I know Fox just came out with
their own app, right? So like to rival ESPN.
So now you have Fox sport, Fox 1and I think it's called it's
ESPN ultimate. So you have these two network.
Now you have these two streamingservices battling for all the

(01:07:01):
sports that are going to be going on, uh, paramount,
obviously. So like there's just so much
going on right now and, and what's really starting to piss
me off is that all these companies are starting to bundle
themselves up. So like you can do like Disney,
Netflix and HBO Max as like a, athing or Disney, ESPN Ultimate
and HBO Max. Like they're starting.

(01:07:22):
We're literally just going back to like we're just going back to
able. Am I going to get one service
that rules them all now? Like is that what's going to
happen eventually? Like I'm going to pay like $200
a month to get all the. Streaming.
Services like this is what's going to happen, man.
And it's just, it's ridiculous to me that as a wrestling fan

(01:07:42):
right now, like I said, 999 here, 2999 there, 2199 here, you
know, $220 here, right? And this is this monthly.
This isn't like just an annual thing.
Like it's, it's getting ridiculous, man, just to be kind
of a fan of like anything. It's just it's cost some.
Work. Damn.

(01:08:04):
Man, like, it's wild to me. It's wild to me.
What's up, Damian? Section 1, Row Two $1300.
For what? To a Monday Night Raw in
Illinois or in a smackdown, the Allstate Arena.
That's fucking stupid. I mean that's not a bad seat,
but that's expensive as fuck. Cheapest seat $99.

(01:08:30):
By the way, this just came across my My Tweaker app.
LAPD has launched an investigation on Roger Jackson.
I think. Yeah.
Well, and Chaz. I get $72 in Milwaukee.
Who the fuck wants to go to Milwaukee?

(01:08:50):
Milwaukee, what that's like. That's why the supply and demand
is so low over there. Milwaukee.
Sorry for all you Buck fans. Wow, we're not all trying to
visit. I'm not sorry for all you Buck
fans. What else is there to do in
Milwaukee? Go to Chicago and watch the
Bulls. I was sitting thinking, you know

(01:09:11):
what? I was like, the Beers isn't a
real team. All right, look, this is what I
this is my take on. It's counter programming.
Point blank, it's counter programming.
WWE is flexing ESPN to undercut AW.

(01:09:32):
We've already seen it now numerous times.
WWE planning shows around or even on the same day as AEW.
Crazy how what what what What else is on September That what
else is on that day? This is an AW show if I'm not
mistaken. All out, all right.

(01:09:53):
All out. I find it funny.
All out. It's some shitty ass program
called Wrestle Palooza on the same day as All Out.
At least make it mean. Something just so we can get,
just so we can get Brock versus Cena again.
Right. So that's real the fuck out of

(01:10:13):
here. I don't even think it's
innovation. It's no different than them
going off of what to a Peacock to on to another app on Netflix?
Now they're on another app, ESPN, and I don't think it's
innovation and the fan RIP off. No, because we're already paying
too much to watch the stuff anyway.
So I mean, it's we were already getting ripped off.

(01:10:37):
We've been getting ripped off for about two years, 2 1/2 years
now. So let's just keep it being no,
it's not a RIP off. This is just kind of
programming. That's 2 1/2.
Years, my man. We've been getting, we've been
getting ripped off since the endof WCWEC.

(01:10:57):
WAO man, you guys don't like John Cena, but hey, here's what
you're going to get in the championship match.
John Cena, that's fair. That's I'll give you.
Netflix you like Nexus? Not anymore.
Evolution like. WB already has Netflix, they

(01:11:21):
already have Peacock and now sure, their deal kind of ended,
you know, early with Peacock, which is kind of the reason why
we're going to ESPN so soon. They finished up their contract
with Peacock as far as their PL.ES and that with them doing the
two nights of the WrestleMania and the two nights of Summer

(01:11:42):
Slam, they finished up their contract.
So technically they don't need to really be on Peacock as far
as anymore for the rest of the year, but they've remade the
deal. So Saturday night's main event
will continue to also be on Peacock as well moving forward.
But. Not even on NBC.
Right. Yeah.
Not on NBC, Yeah, Yeah, not on NBC.

(01:12:04):
Not on NBC, but. That tells you.
That just tells you how I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
That just tells you how important Saturday night main
event is to the WWE because it'snot even on NBC.
It's not like you're gonna you, I think at this point, right?
It's for Peacock. It's not even for NBC.

(01:12:26):
The channel like that's how muchdo they even give a fuck about
Saturday night main event? Yeah, and.
Does it give them more exposure?Yes, we said it.
We said it last week, being on ESPN, you're automatically in
more homes than than what you would normally be on if you
weren't, you know, a partner with the with the network.

(01:12:47):
It's not innovation, it's just domination.
That's really what it is. WWE is is putting they putting
boots to asses. All right.
They look, in 2020, they lost asfar as even AW went head to head
with NXT and they got the butts kicked.
That's just the fact they got the butts kicked.

(01:13:08):
Now the TKO was up in this. They're like, yeah, we're not
going to let that happen at all.And so that's what they're
doing. They're kind of programming.
WWE just moved early, all right,to say that, hey, ESPN, the
worldwide leader in sports is us.
That's our network, all right, That's that's that's us.
And you see why ESPN not covering AW no more.

(01:13:30):
Yeah, all that stuff on ESPN website gone, not even there.
Don't even have a tad for it anymore.
As it should be. That's not as it should be.
Why not? You're the worldwide leader in
sports. You, you cover sports.
You cover all the sports. Yeah, and.

(01:13:52):
You're going to cover AW? That to be fair, to be fair.
Damien, This is why, because theNFL, right, is also running
shows on the network, right? On ESPN, Monday Night Football,
right, Sunday Night Football, whatever, right, Any football
that goes on ESPN, they don't shut out the USFL.

(01:14:12):
They don't shut off the UFL. Yeah, they don't.
They don't close them out. Yeah, they don't.
When, when they when the USFL and the XFL was all running,
ESPN was covering those shows. In fact, they were having
football games on their network and they're still talking about
the NFL. And even if the NFL is the, the,
the conglomerate, right, it's the biggest one of them all.

(01:14:35):
Like they still talk about the UFL now.
So why is it that they going to sit back and go, well, WWE is
our big product. We're not going.
To talk about AW, no more like. Oh, because WWE is assholes.
That might be, but the NFL also could.
NFL doesn't like I'm just. Saying.

(01:14:55):
Do that, but they're they're not.
Don't, don't, don't, don't put that.
Let's not put that behind RodgerGoodell.
Like, I don't know, Palpatine himself.
Like that, that that you want totalk about an evil sports
commissioner And then and that one right there.
That's the big one. The big evil one.

(01:15:15):
Yeah, Rodger Goodell. Then right underneath him is
Dana White. And then it's Adam Silver.
He looked like a little slime Little.
Nah, or alien. That's wild.
I put Adam Silver before dinner.What?
You got a fairpoint on that one?And bud but but but see like is
that a dude that does the MLB? No Rogers, No Roger.

(01:15:35):
No Mansfield is his name. Yeah.
That guy Mansfield. Yeah.
Well, yeah, he's, I'm sorry. He he's kind of getting me over.
We'll talk about it later. No, you can't tell me.
I don't understand how. Listen, I don't understand how
You play 182 games, OK, You play182 games.
In these games you televise, right?
And there's like 40 people in the fucking stands, right?

(01:15:57):
Sorry to my to my Rockies, right?
I love y'all y'all last place. OK, There's probably like 300
people that are watching the games continuously, yet you're
still rolling over in profits. But every time I turn around and
you're playing the game. What commercials are coming on?
We've seen all these stupid medicine commercials, these
prescription medicine commercials.
That's why this thing is gettingfunded is because you get like

(01:16:18):
big pharma in here, like, hey, yo, man.
We're going to fit who are goingto pay.
You just put our product up hereand talk about it.
Come on, Oh man, like no, that man is dangerous too.
He over here like, hey, oh man, just break me off a little
bread. We're going to put your ad on
here and then, you know, you just you could be that you could
be the official sponsor of anti anxiety for the MLB, the

(01:16:40):
leagues. Seriously.
Well, I mean, can't really blameESPNI guess you can blame Disney
though. They're evil.
They own, I blame they. Own it.
So I blame all. Of them, so it's probably their
decision. Disney is evil.
Disney out here. Trying to about Disney but I

(01:17:00):
don't know if our disclaimer will cover that.
So what? Nothing.
I live in a state where the mouse rules everything.
I got to be careful with what I.Oh, that's right, you probably
should be quiet. You're right, Mickey owned land
down there like. Hey, what the fuck are you

(01:17:21):
talking? About pretty much.
That man, that man, that governor y'all have AI know
this. That governor y'all got down
there man. Learned real quick about what
Disney can do. He sure did.
He sure tried. He tried to fight Mouse.
I mean, look, Fox saw what Disney could do.
Yeah, that's why Sony is playingnice.

(01:17:45):
Yeah. These guys are trying to get
bought by Apple. That's what Disney is trying to
do now. Alright, let's let's get on to
our last topic, Forbidden Door. Alright, Forbidden Door earlier
today. Is it still special or is it
losing its magic? So what do we got on that one?

(01:18:07):
Are they losing steam or same play by play?
Let's go. Let's talk to you, Cliff.
Fuck him yo it's the same shit bro.
Like what we talking about man? We talk about we not getting the
dream matches that we want anymore, and the reason why is
because people like you know, are Kenny Omegas are Bryan
Danielsons, will Ospreys, right?They're they're getting injured,

(01:18:30):
bro, and they're also getting older too.
Let's be fair, like Okada, you know, is getting older
Tanahashi, right? All these guys are all getting
older and we're not being able to watch them work in their
prime now with this. If this was like.
Six years ago, yeah, we talked about the best, man, this is
great. But you just saw that they have
to throw in CML. Like now CML is getting kind of
evolved into this forbidden doornow, where it's like right now

(01:18:52):
we're having these loose doors come in and work with these top
dudes from Japan. We're trying to make it a little
bigger, but we're not getting all the same dudes.
Like I'm trying to figure out like.
When are we going? To get some of these some top
talent that are coming over fromlike Ireland over over the top,
you know, over the top, right? Or when are we going to start
getting some of these other dudes that be working these
Indies? Why don't we make it a real
forbidden door and let's pull some of these other other kids
that get these up that need these opportunities to kind of

(01:19:14):
flourish on these stages. We're only getting the matches
that people are think that we'regoing to want, right?
We want the top guys from New Japan.
Yeah. But you know what?
We got that match last year. We got that match before.
Like what matches are we really looking forward to?
What matches are we really looking forward to?
We've already seen them. And even at the same

(01:19:34):
pay-per-view, we've already seenit.
So it's just kind of, it's kind of Lucy's scene, man.
I just, I'm good. I'm good with it.
I just want to see you. You want the forbidden door.
You know what the real forbiddendoor is?
Show me that one and then let meget those dream match ups.
Yeah, that. Ain't.
Gonna happen. Look, never say never.
You never know. Yeah, that's also true too.

(01:19:55):
It all depends on if they both get their heads out their asses.
Never know. Look, Tony and and Paul could
bump into each other and get stuck on a plane together or an
elevator together for hours and talk it out.
You never know. Or kill each other.
It'd be Tony and Nick. I said, I guess I open my mouth.

(01:20:17):
I'll go next. You know, I forgot that it was
coming on. Actually, I forgot there was a
thing. Going to be perfectly honest
with you. I just think they need to drop
it. I hate the fucking term too.
So like, I don't know, I feel like at this point, like you

(01:20:38):
said, give us something that we really like, want to see, like
everything that they're doing now.
I don't even know what fool fucking wrestled today.
On. Card.
Is it really a forbidden door ifGabe Kidd has been there for the
last four months and this is supposed to be like a once in a

(01:20:59):
once in a year, once a year pay-per-view?
No, it's not. But I mean, you don't see Gabe
Kidd every week though. Yeah, but still doesn't.
Matter. I have seen Gabe Kidd at every
pay-per-view that AW has ran forthe last five months.
You haven't seen him on TV though on every.
On my review. Yeah, but that's still every

(01:21:20):
pay-per-view, and they have themmore often than they used to.
If they were running like 4 pay per views a year like they
started, which I wish they go back to, or maybe like 6, I
don't know. But I don't know.
They adored too much. I don't like it.
I just like to be fair. I mean, Gabe, like I said, gay

(01:21:41):
kids been there the last five months and this is new Japan's
like big star, you know what I mean?
It's like. The show for me has lost its
shine like and it's luster like oh, I mean I can't never say I
was really excited about the first place, but from like an
actual fans for I can't even do that.

(01:22:02):
Never mind I got nothing. I hate it.
I tried OK, I tried good twitch.I feel like this one had had
good matches on it, but but likeyou said, like you said, Cliff,

(01:22:22):
now they brought CMLL and I feellike I'm just watching a a a
premium live event for the island of Misfit toys that you
didn't want. Like you see that?
I feel like they're missing the ball with what this was supposed

(01:22:42):
to be like. It just, it started out great
and I feel like it's on a constant downward slope.
It's just it's falling short. Well, because they're adding it
into their normal show. This is supposed to be so.
Yeah, this. Is something that's supposed to

(01:23:03):
be completely separate from everything that you do all year
where you're throwing the dream matches together.
It's just become part of their cycle.
Have we even had like out of allof the forbidden doors, enough
dream matches to create one fullcar?
Yes, I mean we, yeah, I mean we hold on.

(01:23:25):
Wasn't Nigel McGinnis wrestling?Yeah, he did.
He wrestled. Yeah, he wrestled.
That's one. That was a great.
Match that matches. Oh my goodness, that.
Matters I I heard it was fire but like hold on, is that the
only match? No, Tony, Storm and Athena had a
fire fucking match. Yeah, but that still doesn't

(01:23:47):
count. I think the wrong person won.
But I mean that doesn't count though.
Why? Because they work for the same
company. Yeah, so the idea for Forbidden
Dora was supposed to be like. Cross Firmer.
Yeah, this person that. Person like you're top talking
AT? WI don't want to hear that, No,

(01:24:07):
because you see them on TV all the time though she.
Is on Ring of Honor. Yeah, she's been on, She's been
on Dynamite and fucking. Well, yeah, because she's the
number one contender, she's the number one contender.
So I would hope that the number one contender be on every
Dynamite in collision leading upto her championship match.

(01:24:29):
You have not, no, you haven't seen Athena on on Dynamite.
Not not ever since not the past two months.
She hasn't been on Dynamite. She's been on lock on a paywall
for five years. You have not seen Athena on
Dynamite. Wasn't she in the on Hart?
Tournament. No, she was not, because she's
on she. Was.
She lost. All right, cool.

(01:24:51):
The one time that she's been on there on Dynamite, the 1 today
she was on there. So from that you look at the tap
now match of course is going to be on there today.
She's in the championship match.Of course she's going to be on
there today, the same person at her championship match, Damien.
James, it ain't worth it. Dude.

(01:25:11):
You're arguing with someone who thinks the opening match is the
same as the main event for WrestleMania.
It ain't worth arguing with them.
You're not. It's pointless.
So. Has not been on there.
But yo. Because me and Cliff have said
it numerous times on this show. Put Athena on Free TV.
Stop making me pay 999 to watch her on your stupid honor club.

(01:25:35):
She's too good and too freaking amazing to be locked behind a
pay wall. Put her on Dynamite, put the
freaking belt on her and go makesome freaking money and fix your
goddamn women's division. You've been fucking it up for
five years now. You have probably the best
women's roster that you've had for the fucking 6-7 years you've
been here, and you refuse to fucking fix your fucking women's

(01:25:57):
division. Sorry, because I did.
I hate talking about that damn woman's division.
I just hate it. No, no.
I'm. Not the only one that lost my
shit. That's that makes me feel better
because like. With chess.
She is one of the best. She is one of the best women
dressed women, women wrestler onthe planet.

(01:26:18):
Not only has she proven it, likein the ring, but on every
publication that produces wrestling content, claims and
says that she is the best women's wrestler on this planet.
Stop putting Tony Storm and Mercedes Monet up everyone's
ass. There are other wrestlers on
your roster who are just as good, just as talented, and can

(01:26:40):
get over just as good as them all.
Right. Well, you just proved my point
when I said that you know it's not a forbidden doors thing
because she's on the same fucking roster.
She's not, she's on the not, she's not, she's on the already
much. No, it's not.
Pretty much. Same guy signs both paychecks.

(01:27:02):
Different. Oh, you're fucking.
You're smoking crack. I mean, I mean he he's not wrong
because Tony does sign the ROH paychecks.
I'm just saying. So that's like that's if you're
on NXT, you might as well be on the main roster because Paul
signs your fucking paychecks. Right now he does.

(01:27:23):
Like retarded. Does that sound?
So let me, let me, let me either.
Though that's the thing. NXT talent.
That is my main roster talent. Well, first of all, NXT is
developmental. Exactly, I keep saying same
fucking company. Anyway, it's.

(01:27:43):
OK, but this is where I want it.This is where I want to bring it
to, right. And so we're talking about, you
know, obviously, like when you're getting like AW versus AW
talent, right on the program, like there's a there's a
problem, especially when you call it forbid indoor, right?
Like here's here's here's why I get to it, right.
So when we look at like swervingour glory versus Suzuki guns,

(01:28:04):
right, or we look at Max Caster and the Gun Club versus versus
Yuya Yumora and New Japan LA Dojo, you know, you get the sex
Gods versus a Kingston and ShotaYuminari FTR versus United
Empire. These are the matches we're
talking about like this is Forbidden Door.

(01:28:25):
So I want to see the best talentfrom New Japan versus the best
talent in AW and I'm feeling like I'm not getting that
anymore. It's like, OK, so we have we
have Gabe Kidd in the main eventof this like cluster this 10 man
clusterfuck of this steel cage match that's going on.
But nine of the other competitors are offering your

(01:28:46):
main roster like what are we doing?
Like why are we getting why are why are you giving us this?
Like I want to see the bullet club.
I forget what they call it the yeah, I want those guys versus
like 4 dudes that are your best.They face the OPS.
My point being, though, is I'm trying to get like those four

(01:29:08):
guys versus like Swerve and Osprey and you know, I mean like
the top talent, like that's whatyou, that's what you're supposed
to do. But I get to face the OPS.
I 100% and I understand like, yeah, and you know, and we got
that. We got that matched, but I'm
looking for like, if this is your top guy and this is your
top group, they need to be facing the top group on the

(01:29:29):
other side too, right? Even if that's Mox, you know, I
mean, it's just to me and I just, I don't know, man, it's
I'm I'm looking for matchups like that when Smackdown or Raw
doing a Survivor Series thing. It's Smackdown versus Raw,
right? But if it would have been like
TNA versus WWE, it makes sense, right?

(01:29:49):
Because then we can get those matchups, right?
It's that's what that's what I'mlooking for.
I'm not looking for you. Like I love Athena, right?
And we've all said this, right? And I don't want to see Athena
versus Tony Storm. I want to see Athena versus like
somebody from Japan, like give me that person.
I. Don't know.
I think Athena's fucking awesome.
She's amazing. I don't want to wrestle on this

(01:30:10):
pay-per-view. That's called Forbidden Door and
it's supposed to be about crossing brands.
I want to see Athena versus her at, like, you know, the November
pay-per-view Full Gear. I want to say it was 2 years
before she got signed to NXT is when I ran across her.
Was a fan since then. Enjoyed her in NXT.

(01:30:30):
They didn't do a lot on their main roster but when she was on
TVI enjoyed the fuck out of it. Again.
And then I when she left, she's been fucking killing it give.
Me, her versus some Joshi, that's what I want at the end of
the day. I mean, I watch Brody Storm
versus some Jason. I want a.
Female luchador at least, yeah. I'm.

(01:30:52):
Just saying like a period like this.
Is forbidden door I need? I need more crosses crossovers,
not Tony and Dina. Or fuck, if you want, just give
take all the Champions from all these other promotions and just
match match them up in matches. The new Japan champion versus

(01:31:14):
the AW champion. And we did it with we did it
with Survivor. Series we had Raw versus
Smackdown versus NXT and we had all the championships, all the
Champions were battling out and then we had the Big 10 man match
and we had that awesome moment with Keith Lee and Roman Reigns.
Like this is what I'm talking. But this is what I want though,
right? Like I just like I said, that's
all where I'm at with it. Sorry I had to keep on this
fucking rant. All right, I'm done.

(01:31:36):
All right. Is your blood pressure OK?
Yeah, it is. Seems like your hair's gotten a
lot more poofy since I made you flip out and lose your shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm not going to promise that I won't ever do that again.
Oh. No, I expect the next.
Week and I will say that I slightly enjoyed getting your

(01:31:59):
goat and I'm going to sleep likea baby at night.
Thank you. I mean.
No. And another thing is, is that
no, I'm kidding. You're just crazy.
That twitch hasn't given us painyet.

(01:32:19):
You ever got on either twitch? I ain't got an opinion on this
anymore. I ain't got an.
Opinion on this anymore? What do you mean?
I ain't got an opinion on this anymore.
Oh, all right, look. Let me go.
Look. I.
I still think it's special, but they do need to evolve it.

(01:32:41):
It is getting a little stagnant.I don't agree with the Athena
and Tony thing not being a matchand because it's it's it, I
still think that's still crossing.
That's not, she's not an AW wrestler, she's an ROH wrestler.
It shouldn't have been at all so, but it it does, it does need

(01:33:02):
to liven it up, do something different.
I think CMLL being involved is fine.
I think Noah is being involved. It's fine.
It's a forbidden door. Let all these other companies
get involved. Like that's fine.
It doesn't just have to be AW and New Japan brings forbidden
door. Let the other companies
involved. So it feels more like an actual

(01:33:24):
forbidden door, like oh cool, CMLL is here, Noah's here.
Like, you know, we have all these different promotions, like
the magic ain't gone. It just need like they just need
to change up the tricks, like change the order some stuff like
don't pull the rabbit out the hat for this.
Go for next year, like do the car trick or something you know

(01:33:45):
and like it don't it's nothing wrong with it.
I fans are still hyped because guess what, it's the summer and
we all know dream matches happenlike this is always this time of
year. The pro all and it's not just
for the AW and New Japan. WWE does it right at the end of
the summer. They put on all the banger
matches that we that would end up talking about at the end of

(01:34:07):
the year and it's fine. It is fine.
Do we need to switch up some things?
Yes, but it is still special. It still gets people hype and
the fact that they did it at theO2 Arena even proves that it's
still just as special. So I yeah, I'll I'll take I'll
I'll be on the island on this one.

(01:34:28):
It's it's fine. The show is fine, just.
You need to revamp it up it. Do need to be changed a little
bit? Be with you on that too special.
Yeah, I think, I think he might agree with you down there.
Possibly, yeah. I think Twitch agrees with you.
That's his opinion. What's right here?
US 2 are against y'all 2. That's because us 2 are

(01:34:52):
intelligent and y'all 2 are dumbas fuck.
Like you try. Well, you know what, I think
we're going to. It's coming.
From the guy who record on the ladder.
I'm not trying to hear you tell me.
Exactly. So I mean and.
I'm still standing. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
He's still standing that. Ladder's fucked.

(01:35:14):
Up I'm not Who's got to have elbow surgery?
How many surgeries have you had?You fucking died.
We're not talking about me, are we?
We're talking about you. I.
Don't remember asking for anything I.
Had mine is because other peoplewere involved.
Not an animate object, Sir. You know what, I have comments,

(01:35:37):
but our disclaimer won't cover it.
I. Yeah, my.
OK. So yeah, again.
You too, buddy. I didn't have a problem with,
like I don't have a problem withTony Storm and Athena wrestling
on the show. I don't have.
A problem with it. Just listen.
Listen. Listen, I don't have a problem
with that match, OK? I don't have a problem with that
match. That's what I'm trying to get
at. I don't have a problem with that
match, OK? I just think that if you're

(01:36:00):
going to do something like Forbidden Door, it should be
more of a crossover. That match still happens.
Full Gear all out, all in rage, in a cage, Bloody Blood.
I don't care. The match still happens.
The match still goes down. I don't care.
Just not there. Just not there.

(01:36:21):
That's it. That's all.
I'm saying I think I but. And that I have to disagree.
I think having it there is fine.I think having it there I still
I still. Think it's.
I, I know we don't like the ROHI, know we don't like it.
I know it's not ROH, like it's not our ROHI, get it?
But that's separate. But when they sign the contract

(01:36:42):
it says AEW slash ROH. Doesn't really know.
Yeah, it does. It does.
And Even so, it'll be like ROH with AW, like right above it.
Like she's like I, I, you. Know on the list of what's a
roster look like if you have a class roster, OK, and your

(01:37:03):
classroom, if my classroom is AWand your classroom right, is
Ring of Honor, who's on your Ring of Honor list in my AW
list, we do not have the same people.
I you know what? I, I I.
See your I see your point, but tell me why the?
Same fucking school. I I hear.
I hear your point. I hear your point.

(01:37:24):
I hear your point about the different classroom.
I hear your point. So then tell me why Sheeta was
wrestling against Athena. Whoa.
First of all, hook her Sheeta like while we talk.
Sheeta. Yeah, She still.
She forgot all about her, yeah. Wild.
But she she changed classrooms, right?

(01:37:52):
He transferred, but she's not anAW no more.
She's Ring of Honor. She switched jerseys.
We're not using the school analogy no more.
No, no, no, no, no, no. This is why I don't like black

(01:38:13):
people. Jerseys so now, but she's no
longer on the blue team she's onthe red team you can't wear the
red jersey and the blue jersey you pick 1, so she's now wearing
a red jersey there you go that would.
Be different if you use two different schools.

(01:38:35):
You say classrooms, so that means they're in the same
goddamn school. But still different class that
still don't matter. It does matter.
It's different. It doesn't.
We can still, we can still be inthe we can still be in first
grade. But if you're in Miss Suzanne
class and I am in Mr. Bob's class, we're separate and you

(01:38:56):
still have lunch together. But we're still separate.
You're in the same school. You know what?
This is why Black Bobby Lines end up in somebody.
We didn't put Damian up there, Thank godly.
This. Is how?
Accused end up getting shot justlike end up in shootings.

(01:39:17):
Stuff like this let me pull up. The also, by the way, Athena did
wrestle on Dynamite against Mercedes for the on.
Tournament. Yeah, tournament that just.
Said that other appearances likewrestling on the show she's made

(01:39:37):
made a handful she has wrestled on on the main but.
It hasn't been a whole lot, but The thing is, is that she can
easily just come up there. I just hate to have brought up
sheet and you're like who? Yeah, this wow that we.
She also wrestled Abaddon too, by the way, before Abaddon got
released. That's.

(01:39:58):
Crazy. Like I'm just gonna pull it out
there. I.
Forgot I forgot Abaddon got released.
Just saying there's a handful ofpeople who've gone back and
forth and it was, I mean. Sammy Guevara, like down there
or? Yeah, I mean, the TNT Champion
was Dustin. Yeah.

(01:40:23):
And he was the ROA Sports. He was a trio.
Champion too? The ROA trio champion.
Like what are we talking about? And tag champion too, wasn't he?
Yeah, he was A tag champion. With Sammy.
Was it Sons of Texas or Yeah. So like like no or Brisco?

(01:40:43):
Mark Briscoe was the Roe champion and wrestling on
Dynamite. That's different.
He's over like Rover. That's the that's the no,
because look, now you know, that's different because if they
if they if they put that man on the behind the pay wall,
especially after his brother passed away, everybody in their
Mama would be up in arms and like, why you not putting him on

(01:41:04):
TV? That's the I that the Briscoes.
That's a different case. You know who else was?
You know who else was wrestling on Dynamite while there was our
always champion Samoa Joe. Yeah, yeah, he was.
Oh, oh, Joe, we said two different names.
Yeah, we did. You said Simone Joe.

(01:41:27):
What did I say? Chris Jericho?
Chris Jericho twice, unfortunately, did do it.
And you know who else is on the show too, by the way?
Bandito. So, as we said.
But they in the same classroom. Hey, you know the sometimes you

(01:41:48):
got to go. Some teachers teach different
subjects. You know you had to go to 1
teacher to do reading and you goto the other teacher to teach
math. I don't want to go back to the
class. In the reading and.
Go do that. Trying to spin this, aren't you?
Look, hey, listen, man, some teachers only teach certain
things. All right, let's go.
This is. This is just as.

(01:42:09):
Bad, Who should be Dumbass of the week?
All right, look, all right, 50% all the votes.
Knox Pro Wrestling, you are the dumbass of the week.
As they deserve that. As they.
Absolutely deserve. You can still vote for our
Damien's Dumbass of the Week. You got until 7:31 tomorrow to

(01:42:32):
vote, but as of today's Chaz andFriends debate show, the Dumbass
of the Week is Knox Pro Wrestling, and you absolutely,
wholeheartedly deserve it. I'm going to make sure they all
know you get it, too. I'm going to make the little
that little trophy. Mail it to.
Him you got. Damn right it we can sign it and

(01:42:53):
put my picture on it. I'll take it down there myself.
You know what? I think that's a good idea.
I dare they say something. They won't at this point.
They they didn't say anything then when they let that man get
beat up. And they didn't say anything.
Now Roger Jackson to beat you up.
Yeah, beat me up from jail, all right.

(01:43:13):
I didn't say we're giving it to him.
We said the company. Yeah, we did say the company.
I'm not. Approaching that angry black
man, I'm good Lord. The only way I'm approaching him
is with an elephant gun. Damn.
What? What did you see what he did to
do? No, no, no.

(01:43:34):
It ain't no fighting. It ain't no fighting start.
It ain't no fighting. Make the snap, no.
No, it ain't no jazz. It ain't no fighting.
Snap. Do the snap because you are.
You're Wally. What I'm I'm.
I'm you use a snap, it may snap.Haha you're funny.
It won't. I've done the snap like 4 times.

(01:43:55):
I do at. Least Yeah, yeah, prove it.
See. See here.
See there, See there, See there?Uh huh.
Right there. And there you go.
Snap. That was highly uneventful.
Freaking Lego, what you expectedto do?

(01:44:15):
I'm surprised you stayed together.
Hey by the way, if you guys wantto know how he did that Lego
plus. No such thing.
There's no such thing. All right.
Thanks for joining us. Actually the funny part about it
is is that he didn't realize he forgot a step.
Lego Plus while dancing the Purple Rain.

(01:44:38):
Also, don't let him fool you, OK?
He didn't put that together. His son did.
Because he wasn't he he, he couldn't.
Handle it. He wasn't.
Probably his kids and his wife. Three weeks to get halfway done.
It took his son about 24 minutes.

(01:44:59):
Thanks for watching, goodbye. No, no, no, no, no one more.
OK, this next clip is Chad's in a purple shirt.
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