March 5, 2025 • 19 mins
The episode centers around the dual themes of criticism and appreciation within the NBA. We discuss how the sports media narrative affects player legacies, and why this impacts public perception of athletes today.
• Navigating the balance of criticism vs. appreciation in the NBA
• The influence of media on how player legacies are shaped
• How current players are often undervalued against historical legends
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up?
It's the third downconversation, your place for
sports and entertainment.
I am your host, d Turnip Seed,and on today's episode, is the
NBA getting too much negativecriticism?
Why does?
Why does sports media have somuch control Over player
(00:26):
legacies?
And, lastly, should we showmore appreciation To this
current Era Of the NBA?
I'm gonna jump into all thatand, as you know, I'm real, I'm
authentic and I'm always incontext.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Let's ride.
Is being the face of the leaguesomething that you actively
wanted, or is it something thateveryone else decided for you,
and what has that responsibilitymeant to you?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
No, anna already said he don't want it.
I know, yeah, see he ain'ttrying to deal with it.
And I mean Channy Fry said itthe other day too.
I mean it's unfortunate, butlike I don't know, why do you
want to be the face of theleague when all the people that
you I don't know?
(01:27):
Why do you want to be the faceof a league when all the people
that cover our game and talkabout our game on a day-to-day
basis don't know everybody?
You have that responsibility.
It's just weird.
It's weird energy from thepeople that you know I don't
know.
Channing, he said it perfectly,couldn't have said it no better
and said he don't want it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I mean, obviously, I didn't ask for it.
So you just heard a clip fromLeBron James speaking on why no
one wants to be the face of theleague.
But before I jump into that,that's something I got to
address first.
Lebron stated in that clip hedid not ask to be the face of
(02:07):
the league.
They say LeBron be capping, andboy, he's capping on this one.
I mean, dude has chosen onetattooed across his back like a
nameplate.
He chose number 23, he adoptedMichael Jordan's pregame powder
(02:27):
toss and he embraced thenickname King James.
I mean, that's like asking yoursignificant other, are you
hungry?
They say no, your food arrivesand they spend the whole time
eating off your plate, like dudeclearly wanted to be the face
of the league and that's okay.
(02:48):
Embrace that now that that'sout of the way.
Lebron is continuing to talkabout in that clip what Channing
Frye brought up.
I've got a previous episodetalking about NBA nostalgia,
which is what Channing Frye washitting on a little bit, but
that was a bigger point to whathe was trying to explain and
(03:09):
LeBron has continued to, youknow, expand and expound on the
things that Channing Frye wassaying and pretty much what they
both were saying is the way thegame is covered today.
Too much criticism, too muchnegativity around the game.
In the world of professionalsports, praise and criticism
(03:33):
well, they work in tandem.
If you're getting a lot ofpraise, you better believe
criticism is around the cornerIn general.
That's just how life works.
Sure, criticism can be a bitextreme.
We've all seen some extremeversions of uh you know,
(03:54):
criticizing the players play andit just goes a little too far.
But when players are overlypraised, we don't see the player
saying, hey, that's too muchpraise, y'all give me too much
credit.
We don't hear that.
And why would we?
I mean, you know, praise feelsawesome Criticism.
(04:15):
On the other hand, it causesyou to self-reflect.
Kobe will use it as motivation,mj will use it as motivation
and I'm pretty sure LeBron Jamesuses it as motivation.
Mj will use it as motivationand I'm pretty sure LeBron James
uses it as motivation.
However, two things can be true.
Can criticism be too much andover the top?
(04:35):
Yes, but is criticism alsonecessary?
Yes, I mean, think about it.
The NBA is a product that theywant consumers to buy.
So in essence, it's a product.
So let's look at it throughthat lens.
If I bought a product and it'snot living up to my standard of
(05:02):
what I think it should be.
Then I got a right to complain.
I got a right to express mygrievances and, as the person
selling the product, I shouldn'tsay you're ungrateful or you're
being unappreciative.
I mean, what's that old saying?
(05:22):
The customer is always right.
The NBA should adopt thatChick-fil-A motto.
It's my pleasure.
Now don't get me wrong.
Some criticism is too far, somegoes over the top.
But if I'm consuming a productand I'm like, hey, they shoot
(05:43):
too many threes or hey, they'renot playing any defense, that's
well within bounds.
I mean, lebron himself saidteams are taking too many threes
.
Kendrick Perkins recently saidthat people are becoming too
comfortable criticizing theleague and disrespecting the
(06:05):
league, and he probably has apoint about that.
He probably has a point.
But I can make an argument thatthe league disrespect started
with the players load management.
Imagine taking your family toan NBA game.
Your kid is dying to see StephKD LeBron.
(06:27):
You get to the game, you gotyour sign, you got your jersey
and their favorite players instreet clothes and they're not
playing due to load management.
Y'all gonna have a similar statline tonight.
Wells fargo don't care aboutloads management regions.
They don't care about loadmanagement.
(06:48):
That money gone.
I can't get that back.
What about the all-star game andwhat it has become?
The nba is trying everything tokeep that weekend exciting and
entertaining for the fans.
They're going through all kindsof extremes.
Next thing they're going to tryis a one-on-one tournament
(07:10):
possibly.
So when we talk disrespect, itain't just people that's
criticizing it, it ain't justfans dumping on the league.
The players have played a rolein that as well.
I hope you guys enjoyed thatfirst segment and if you haven't
(07:31):
had a chance, go ahead and hitthat like button.
Go ahead and hit that subscribebutton, and a five-star review
will sure help a brother out.
Remember, shows will drop everyTuesday and follow me on
socials at the Third DownConversation.
Now let's continue the show andjump into segment number two.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You can't be the juror and the judge.
You can't make the rules ofMichael Jordan's six rings,
because when Michael Jordan wasMichael Jordan, he didn't have
six rings yet.
That's what he finished with.
But when he was idolized, heonly had one or two.
So what's happening is you'relooking at the resume that you
(08:29):
guys put out there and you'resaying, okay, you need six rings
.
Right, you got to get the sixrings.
Okay, I got to get the sixrings.
Now I need to make a decisionto go here and get these rings
because I can't get it here.
So now they're sacrificingindividual awards to get these
rings.
Then you say, well, you don'thave the individual awards, you
can't get no scoring titles.
(08:51):
He has 10.
He has 10 scoring titles.
You can't do that, so he getspenalized there because he
doesn't have these accolades.
Then what ends up happening isif you have a player that's
saying, okay, let me get thesescoring titles, You're like oh
you're selfish, yeah, you'reselfish.
Yeah, that's pointless stats,meaningless stats.
(09:13):
So there's this game that'sbeing played here.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You just heard a clip from Gilbert Arenas and what
he's speaking on is how sportsmedia moves the goalposts.
I have done a previous episodeabout Kobe Bryant and his lack
of MVPs due to sports media, andthis is just more to how sports
media controls players'legacies.
(09:40):
As Gilbert stated, you can't bethe juror and the judge.
If a player chases rings, themedia would say he's lacking in
accolades.
If a player chases accolades,the media would say he's not a
winner.
Now, I don't believe LeBron isa GOAT.
(10:00):
I don't believe Kobe is a GOAT.
I will give the nod to MJ, butI can also see why Kobe or
LeBron will never be consideredthe GOAT, and that's because
sports media controls it.
They flat out robbed LeBron ofbeing the defensive player of
(10:21):
the year In 2013,.
Marc Gasol won defensive playerof the year.
Many believe, including me,that it should have been LeBron
James.
Here's proof LeBron James wasnamed first team all defense,
while Marc Gasol was named Firstteam all defense, while Mark
Azar was named Second team alldefense.
(10:43):
I mean, that's a blatantrobbery.
How is the defensive player ofthe year On the second team Like
?
Make that make sense?
And we all know Kobe shouldhave More than one MVP.
All these things Are controlledby sports media.
They all vote on it and, as Istated in my Kobe Bryant episode
(11:08):
, check it out.
It's a good episode, by the way.
But, as I stated in thatepisode, why are players
legacies in the hands of peoplewho have the power to hate them?
Here's another example of howsports media has impacted a
player's legacy Steph Curry,clearly the best player on that
(11:34):
Warriors team when they wontheir first championship,
without question Warriors team.
When they won their firstchampionship, without question.
But that finals they give thefinals MVP to Iguodala and we
all know, as casual fans, we allknow that Steph is the best
player in their team, that Stephwas the driving force, that he
(11:55):
should have got that finals MVP.
But the fact that the mediagave it to Iguodala, all of a
sudden, everybody's questioningSteph as the main guy.
And then he goes back with KDand they win some more and it's
like, well, he didn't get thefinals MVP, as though, like it
didn't count.
(12:16):
Then he goes again and finallywins.
It gets his MVP and he's soemotional about it, screaming
what are they gonna say now?
Because when they talked abouthim all the time, they was like,
well, he don't have any finalsMVPs and he doesn't have any
because of the media, likethat's, that's nuts that they
(12:36):
have that kind of power over aplayer's legacy and they
shouldn't have it.
I mean, when you think about it, a lot of these sports media
individuals.
They went to school forjournalism, they learned how to
write compelling stories, but asfar as watching the game,
(12:57):
there's no major, there's nominor for that.
We can all watch the game andsee yeah it's that guy, but they
don't care about that.
They care about stories, drama.
Please remember to like,subscribe, follow, drop a
comment, leave a review, fivestars, please Remember.
(13:20):
Shows will drop every Tuesdayand I want you guys along for
the ride and also follow me onsocial media Instagram, twitter,
youtube.
At the Third Down Conversation.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Twitter, youtube.
At the third down conversation.
We have to just accept theerror that we came up in and
(14:02):
played right.
Respect the error that we grewup on, right.
Respect the game that we grewup on.
Respect the players we grew upon.
I just think we so stuck intothis.
You gotta pick a sidegeneration in this, everywhere.
So we can't appreciate twogoats at the same time.
It's it's so mj versus braun orbraun versus coven who's the
(14:23):
goat, who's the best like?
So now you got to.
If I say one is the best thingseverybody else gonna say now
I'm lying.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So that's the the culture that we actually in that
was a clip from cam, fromCamillo Anthony from his podcast
7 am in Brooklyn.
It's a good pod.
You should check it out.
Mello's right, and I'm guiltyof this, like I think we get so
caught up in making whoever wefeel should be the goat that we
(14:54):
lose sight of the era that we'recurrently in.
It's not about picking a side.
This is what this whole GOATdebate has become.
It's become politics andeverybody's picking a side.
I'm over here.
I'm over here.
This guy isn't a GOAT because hedon't have MVPs.
Well, this guy isn't a GOATbecause he went and joined Miami
(15:14):
.
Well, this guy isn't a GOATbecause he went and joined Miami
.
Well, this guy isn't a GOATbecause he played with Scottie
Pippen the whole time.
It's something, but here's thebeauty of it it's something
against all three of them.
Yeah, I'm saying three Kobe init, but it's something against
all three of them.
So why not just appreciate Allof them?
(15:36):
Why not show that, thatadmiration for All of them?
And as humans it's hard for usto appreciate other humans Just,
naturally, it's just not in us.
It's not in us.
We're not built that way.
That's why we need Christ.
Melo is just.
(15:56):
He's spot on.
I mean.
Think about lebron james.
He's six, nine, he's a pointguard, can pass the ball better
than anyone that I've seen.
He's 40 years old, averaging 25, and 8.
That's crazy.
Yes, the defenses aren't asgood.
(16:18):
Yes, the floor is spread out,but he's 40 and still playing at
a very high level Easily top 10, easily top 10.
Kevin Durant, a 7 foot shootingguard that can handle the ball,
that can pull up from 30 andget to the cup.
(16:42):
I think the chances are slim Tosee another Kevin Durant and
another LeBron James.
Very slim.
Steph Curry 6'3 point guard.
That's really a shooting guard.
He is the greatest shooter ever.
He revolutionized the game.
We have to show these guysappreciation.
(17:05):
Russell Westbrook the passionand the energy he plays with
that's clearly being displayedwhen he's on the floor.
That guy deserves appreciation.
So we have to get out of thisculture of not appreciating
these guys and I do believe it'ssports media's fault.
(17:26):
Yeah, yeah, I got a bone topick with sports media.
They just it's just a narrative.
They create that.
I just.
We also have to get out of thebusiness of comparing errors.
I think that's so pointless.
Like the 80s, 90s, 2000s, whatthe 2020s, the 2010s, comparing
(17:50):
those errors, I think arepointless because the game
continues to change, how it'splayed, how it's called, so why
compare them?
This whole I'm done with the90s and all that stuff was just.
It didn't make sense.
But it all stemmed from thefact that the 90s was attacking.
(18:10):
You know, this new age ofbasketball, the new age, had to
fight back.
But again, comparing errorspointless.
Show more appreciation to thoseerrors because they got the
game where it is today.
Show more appreciation to thecurrent players because these
(18:32):
guys are one of a kind, becausethese guys are one of a kind.
If you want to compare playersand errors, I'm cool with that.
That's just talking ball.
We don't have to cut one playerdown to lift another player up.
Even though I'm guilty of thatat times, I admit that.
I can admit that I try to dobetter.
(18:52):
I probably fail, but I will sayin all seriousness that we for
sure need to show moreappreciation to the players in
the NBA.
Currently, this has been theThird Down Conversation.
I am D Turnipsy, jesus lovesyou and I'm out Peace.
What's up?
It's the third downconversation, your place for
sports and entertainment.
I am your host, d Turnip Seed,and on today's episode, is the
NBA getting too much negativecriticism?
Why does?
Why does sports media have somuch control Over player
(00:26):
legacies?
And, lastly, should we showmore appreciation To this
current Era Of the NBA?
I'm gonna jump into all thatand, as you know, I'm real, I'm
authentic and I'm always incontext.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Let's ride.
Is being the face of the leaguesomething that you actively
wanted, or is it something thateveryone else decided for you,
and what has that responsibilitymeant to you?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
No, anna already said he don't want it.
I know, yeah, see he ain'ttrying to deal with it.
And I mean Channy Fry said itthe other day too.
I mean it's unfortunate, butlike I don't know, why do you
want to be the face of theleague when all the people that
you I don't know?
(01:27):
Why do you want to be the faceof a league when all the people
that cover our game and talkabout our game on a day-to-day
basis don't know everybody?
You have that responsibility.
It's just weird.
It's weird energy from thepeople that you know I don't
know.
Channing, he said it perfectly,couldn't have said it no better
and said he don't want it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I mean, obviously, I didn't ask for it.
So you just heard a clip fromLeBron James speaking on why no
one wants to be the face of theleague.
But before I jump into that,that's something I got to
address first.
Lebron stated in that clip hedid not ask to be the face of
(02:07):
the league.
They say LeBron be capping, andboy, he's capping on this one.
I mean, dude has chosen onetattooed across his back like a
nameplate.
He chose number 23, he adoptedMichael Jordan's pregame powder
(02:27):
toss and he embraced thenickname King James.
I mean, that's like asking yoursignificant other, are you
hungry?
They say no, your food arrivesand they spend the whole time
eating off your plate, like dudeclearly wanted to be the face
of the league and that's okay.
(02:48):
Embrace that now that that'sout of the way.
Lebron is continuing to talkabout in that clip what Channing
Frye brought up.
I've got a previous episodetalking about NBA nostalgia,
which is what Channing Frye washitting on a little bit, but
that was a bigger point to whathe was trying to explain and
(03:09):
LeBron has continued to, youknow, expand and expound on the
things that Channing Frye wassaying and pretty much what they
both were saying is the way thegame is covered today.
Too much criticism, too muchnegativity around the game.
In the world of professionalsports, praise and criticism
(03:33):
well, they work in tandem.
If you're getting a lot ofpraise, you better believe
criticism is around the cornerIn general.
That's just how life works.
Sure, criticism can be a bitextreme.
We've all seen some extremeversions of uh you know,
(03:54):
criticizing the players play andit just goes a little too far.
But when players are overlypraised, we don't see the player
saying, hey, that's too muchpraise, y'all give me too much
credit.
We don't hear that.
And why would we?
I mean, you know, praise feelsawesome Criticism.
(04:15):
On the other hand, it causesyou to self-reflect.
Kobe will use it as motivation,mj will use it as motivation
and I'm pretty sure LeBron Jamesuses it as motivation.
Mj will use it as motivationand I'm pretty sure LeBron James
uses it as motivation.
However, two things can be true.
Can criticism be too much andover the top?
(04:35):
Yes, but is criticism alsonecessary?
Yes, I mean, think about it.
The NBA is a product that theywant consumers to buy.
So in essence, it's a product.
So let's look at it throughthat lens.
If I bought a product and it'snot living up to my standard of
(05:02):
what I think it should be.
Then I got a right to complain.
I got a right to express mygrievances and, as the person
selling the product, I shouldn'tsay you're ungrateful or you're
being unappreciative.
I mean, what's that old saying?
(05:22):
The customer is always right.
The NBA should adopt thatChick-fil-A motto.
It's my pleasure.
Now don't get me wrong.
Some criticism is too far, somegoes over the top.
But if I'm consuming a productand I'm like, hey, they shoot
(05:43):
too many threes or hey, they'renot playing any defense, that's
well within bounds.
I mean, lebron himself saidteams are taking too many threes
.
Kendrick Perkins recently saidthat people are becoming too
comfortable criticizing theleague and disrespecting the
(06:05):
league, and he probably has apoint about that.
He probably has a point.
But I can make an argument thatthe league disrespect started
with the players load management.
Imagine taking your family toan NBA game.
Your kid is dying to see StephKD LeBron.
(06:27):
You get to the game, you gotyour sign, you got your jersey
and their favorite players instreet clothes and they're not
playing due to load management.
Y'all gonna have a similar statline tonight.
Wells fargo don't care aboutloads management regions.
They don't care about loadmanagement.
(06:48):
That money gone.
I can't get that back.
What about the all-star game andwhat it has become?
The nba is trying everything tokeep that weekend exciting and
entertaining for the fans.
They're going through all kindsof extremes.
Next thing they're going to tryis a one-on-one tournament
(07:10):
possibly.
So when we talk disrespect, itain't just people that's
criticizing it, it ain't justfans dumping on the league.
The players have played a rolein that as well.
I hope you guys enjoyed thatfirst segment and if you haven't
(07:31):
had a chance, go ahead and hitthat like button.
Go ahead and hit that subscribebutton, and a five-star review
will sure help a brother out.
Remember, shows will drop everyTuesday and follow me on
socials at the Third DownConversation.
Now let's continue the show andjump into segment number two.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You can't be the juror and the judge.
You can't make the rules ofMichael Jordan's six rings,
because when Michael Jordan wasMichael Jordan, he didn't have
six rings yet.
That's what he finished with.
But when he was idolized, heonly had one or two.
So what's happening is you'relooking at the resume that you
(08:29):
guys put out there and you'resaying, okay, you need six rings
.
Right, you got to get the sixrings.
Okay, I got to get the sixrings.
Now I need to make a decisionto go here and get these rings
because I can't get it here.
So now they're sacrificingindividual awards to get these
rings.
Then you say, well, you don'thave the individual awards, you
can't get no scoring titles.
(08:51):
He has 10.
He has 10 scoring titles.
You can't do that, so he getspenalized there because he
doesn't have these accolades.
Then what ends up happening isif you have a player that's
saying, okay, let me get thesescoring titles, You're like oh
you're selfish, yeah, you'reselfish.
Yeah, that's pointless stats,meaningless stats.
(09:13):
So there's this game that'sbeing played here.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You just heard a clip from Gilbert Arenas and what
he's speaking on is how sportsmedia moves the goalposts.
I have done a previous episodeabout Kobe Bryant and his lack
of MVPs due to sports media, andthis is just more to how sports
media controls players'legacies.
(09:40):
As Gilbert stated, you can't bethe juror and the judge.
If a player chases rings, themedia would say he's lacking in
accolades.
If a player chases accolades,the media would say he's not a
winner.
Now, I don't believe LeBron isa GOAT.
(10:00):
I don't believe Kobe is a GOAT.
I will give the nod to MJ, butI can also see why Kobe or
LeBron will never be consideredthe GOAT, and that's because
sports media controls it.
They flat out robbed LeBron ofbeing the defensive player of
(10:21):
the year In 2013,.
Marc Gasol won defensive playerof the year.
Many believe, including me,that it should have been LeBron
James.
Here's proof LeBron James wasnamed first team all defense,
while Marc Gasol was named Firstteam all defense, while Mark
Azar was named Second team alldefense.
(10:43):
I mean, that's a blatantrobbery.
How is the defensive player ofthe year On the second team Like
?
Make that make sense?
And we all know Kobe shouldhave More than one MVP.
All these things Are controlledby sports media.
They all vote on it and, as Istated in my Kobe Bryant episode
(11:08):
, check it out.
It's a good episode, by the way.
But, as I stated in thatepisode, why are players
legacies in the hands of peoplewho have the power to hate them?
Here's another example of howsports media has impacted a
player's legacy Steph Curry,clearly the best player on that
(11:34):
Warriors team when they wontheir first championship,
without question Warriors team.
When they won their firstchampionship, without question.
But that finals they give thefinals MVP to Iguodala and we
all know, as casual fans, we allknow that Steph is the best
player in their team, that Stephwas the driving force, that he
(11:55):
should have got that finals MVP.
But the fact that the mediagave it to Iguodala, all of a
sudden, everybody's questioningSteph as the main guy.
And then he goes back with KDand they win some more and it's
like, well, he didn't get thefinals MVP, as though, like it
didn't count.
(12:16):
Then he goes again and finallywins.
It gets his MVP and he's soemotional about it, screaming
what are they gonna say now?
Because when they talked abouthim all the time, they was like,
well, he don't have any finalsMVPs and he doesn't have any
because of the media, likethat's, that's nuts that they
(12:36):
have that kind of power over aplayer's legacy and they
shouldn't have it.
I mean, when you think about it, a lot of these sports media
individuals.
They went to school forjournalism, they learned how to
write compelling stories, but asfar as watching the game,
(12:57):
there's no major, there's nominor for that.
We can all watch the game andsee yeah it's that guy, but they
don't care about that.
They care about stories, drama.
Please remember to like,subscribe, follow, drop a
comment, leave a review, fivestars, please Remember.
(13:20):
Shows will drop every Tuesdayand I want you guys along for
the ride and also follow me onsocial media Instagram, twitter,
youtube.
At the Third Down Conversation.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Twitter, youtube.
At the third down conversation.
We have to just accept theerror that we came up in and
(14:02):
played right.
Respect the error that we grewup on, right.
Respect the game that we grewup on.
Respect the players we grew upon.
I just think we so stuck intothis.
You gotta pick a sidegeneration in this, everywhere.
So we can't appreciate twogoats at the same time.
It's it's so mj versus braun orbraun versus coven who's the
(14:23):
goat, who's the best like?
So now you got to.
If I say one is the best thingseverybody else gonna say now
I'm lying.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So that's the the culture that we actually in that
was a clip from cam, fromCamillo Anthony from his podcast
7 am in Brooklyn.
It's a good pod.
You should check it out.
Mello's right, and I'm guiltyof this, like I think we get so
caught up in making whoever wefeel should be the goat that we
(14:54):
lose sight of the era that we'recurrently in.
It's not about picking a side.
This is what this whole GOATdebate has become.
It's become politics andeverybody's picking a side.
I'm over here.
I'm over here.
This guy isn't a GOAT because hedon't have MVPs.
Well, this guy isn't a GOATbecause he went and joined Miami
(15:14):
.
Well, this guy isn't a GOATbecause he went and joined Miami
.
Well, this guy isn't a GOATbecause he played with Scottie
Pippen the whole time.
It's something, but here's thebeauty of it it's something
against all three of them.
Yeah, I'm saying three Kobe init, but it's something against
all three of them.
So why not just appreciate Allof them?
(15:36):
Why not show that, thatadmiration for All of them?
And as humans it's hard for usto appreciate other humans Just,
naturally, it's just not in us.
It's not in us.
We're not built that way.
That's why we need Christ.
Melo is just.
(15:56):
He's spot on.
I mean.
Think about lebron james.
He's six, nine, he's a pointguard, can pass the ball better
than anyone that I've seen.
He's 40 years old, averaging 25, and 8.
That's crazy.
Yes, the defenses aren't asgood.
(16:18):
Yes, the floor is spread out,but he's 40 and still playing at
a very high level Easily top 10, easily top 10.
Kevin Durant, a 7 foot shootingguard that can handle the ball,
that can pull up from 30 andget to the cup.
(16:42):
I think the chances are slim Tosee another Kevin Durant and
another LeBron James.
Very slim.
Steph Curry 6'3 point guard.
That's really a shooting guard.
He is the greatest shooter ever.
He revolutionized the game.
We have to show these guysappreciation.
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Russell Westbrook the passionand the energy he plays with
that's clearly being displayedwhen he's on the floor.
That guy deserves appreciation.
So we have to get out of thisculture of not appreciating
these guys and I do believe it'ssports media's fault.
(17:26):
Yeah, yeah, I got a bone topick with sports media.
They just it's just a narrative.
They create that.
I just.
We also have to get out of thebusiness of comparing errors.
I think that's so pointless.
Like the 80s, 90s, 2000s, whatthe 2020s, the 2010s, comparing
(17:50):
those errors, I think arepointless because the game
continues to change, how it'splayed, how it's called, so why
compare them?
This whole I'm done with the90s and all that stuff was just.
It didn't make sense.
But it all stemmed from thefact that the 90s was attacking.
(18:10):
You know, this new age ofbasketball, the new age, had to
fight back.
But again, comparing errorspointless.
Show more appreciation to thoseerrors because they got the
game where it is today.
Show more appreciation to thecurrent players because these
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guys are one of a kind, becausethese guys are one of a kind.
If you want to compare playersand errors, I'm cool with that.
That's just talking ball.
We don't have to cut one playerdown to lift another player up.
Even though I'm guilty of thatat times, I admit that.
I can admit that I try to dobetter.
(18:52):
I probably fail, but I will sayin all seriousness that we for
sure need to show moreappreciation to the players in
the NBA.
Currently, this has been theThird Down Conversation.
I am D Turnipsy, jesus lovesyou and I'm out Peace.
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