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August 27, 2022 54 mins

Jacqueline sits down with the resident therapist of The 40 Plus Files podcast, Lisa Butler. The two of them discuss the relationship dynamics between Black men and women. They also discuss Bishop T.D. Jakes’ sermon, "Real Men Pour In." In his message, Bishop Jakes had some things to say about women who are walking in a masculine spirit. He also points out the challenges of men who are trying to pour from an empty cup. Lisa zones in on Jakes’ controversial comments about women in today’s society who are “being raised to be men.” 

Follow Lisa:

Website: https://www.lisabutlerlcsw.com/

Instagram: @lisabutlerlcsw


Follow The 40 Plus Files: 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the40plusfiles/

Blog: www.wordyprofessor.com

Email us at: info@the40plusfiles.com

 

Listen to Bishop T.D. Jakes’ Sermon: “Real Men Pour In”:

 https://youtu.be/4fTg4FHSSQY

 

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