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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Walking through that
door is sometimes the hardest
part, and then after that youjust kind of go with the motion
and the flow.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Welcome to the 5 QuestionsPodcast.
I am your host, mario Lamar,our guest on today's show, has
over 20 years of experience inreal estate and real estate
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investing.
She is the founder of WeBuild,the woman empowering in business
, investing and leadershipdevelopment.
She is the president of theCREWA, the Canadian Real Estate
Investing Women's Association.
Welcome, victoria Clooney.
Victoria, I'm so excited tohave you on our show today.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Thank you for having
me, mario.
It's really nice to meet you.
I've heard a lot of good thingsand I think we have a ton of
overlap for connection, so I'mlooking forward to this chat.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
The concept Victoria
of the podcast is very simple.
I asked five questions, eitherabout real estate or business,
and we get straight to the point.
You ready, I'm ready, all right.
The first question I'd like toask is your portfolio and your
investing is a little differentthan a lot of investors.
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Some people focus on one areaor one category of investing in
real estate, but what sparkedyour interest in different
niches like glamping retreats,tiny home communities or even
boutique motels?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So it's a reflection
of me and my personality, which
I love variety, and my wholelife I've been called extreme,
I've loved going into differentareas, and so focusing on just
one type of portfolio would notfit, for what would excite me
and what would give me thepassion to lean in and if
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everybody knows about activeinvesting, it takes a lot of
work, and so you want to lovewhat you're doing, and that's
one of the big things that Italk to people about is really
identifying a type of asset andstrategy that fits your
personality, your lifestyle,your financial goals, and for me
, I focus more on stackingskills.
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And so skill stacking and eachproperty, each strategy, each
asset I'm drawing from what I'vedone in the past and I'm only
enhancing it into the new ones.
And so the glamping retreatthese were cottages that I
purchased and then I turned intoa beautiful getaway for people
to come to and I elevated it toa motel, and so it used the same
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systems, the same processes,just at that next level, and so
that's what I continue to do.
I learned different strategieswith the motel and the glamping.
I learned connecting networking.
I know that's something that wewere just chit-chatting about
and that you're really big into.
I would not have learned aboutthat from my buy and holds,
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because they were never anythingthat I cared much about
showcasing, and so when I boughtthese really unique bunkies and
I started to show them online,it opened doors and it opened my
eyes to just the power ofsocial media for business.
And so then I did this with themotel and now I do it with all
my other types of assets, and soyou just continue to stack your
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skills.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I agree with you a
hundred percent.
When you do something, whateverit is in life, you need to love
what you do, because if not,it's going to feel like a job.
And who loves a job?
A few people do, but most of usdon't.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Most of us in this
game are not in it for like
another job, just doing it,build wealth.
But we want to do it in a waythat's aligned and feels good.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That brings us to our
second question, and I know you
work with a lot of women in theindustry.
And I know you work with a lotof women in the industry.
What kind of mindset shifts doyou believe are crucial for
women looking to thrive in realestate and business.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's so cool when I
see a woman walking into the
room for the first time.
You can tell right away it'sthis like doe-eyed little bit of
inhibition, timidness, right,and then by the end of the night
, when they're leaving, they'refull of excitement, of hope.
And so that's the first thingis the openness to it, because
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walking through that door issometimes the hardest part.
And then after that you justkind of go with the motion and
the flow, but taking that firststep.
There's so many women I talk toon the side that tell me that
they watch my content, they hearabout these networking
opportunities and they justdon't think it's the right fit
for them, or they don't know ifit's the right fit.
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And I tell them every time justcome, it's open to anybody.
So that's the first step, justtake that step through the front
door.
And then the second thing isletting go of the inhibition,
letting go of the fear ofjudgment, the fear of what are
people going to say, what arepeople going to think?
Maybe my hair doesn't look verygood today, but they hold
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themselves back.
And that's the second thing andwhat I tell people, and
sometimes it feels a bit harshwhen I say it.
But it's an ego thing.
We're so consumed by our ego oflike inner.
How do we look and what arepeople thinking?
When your message is moreimportant than your ego, when
your impact and the intent thatyou're bringing is more
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important, then you put that tothe side and you show up
authentically.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I think that one of
the most important thing, too,
is is we need to believe inourselves, or each woman needs
to believe in themselves, andthen whatever's missing I was
speaking to another guest.
It's okay to borrow the courageof someone else and to put it
in our actions.
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For example, you, with yoursocial media, you display lots
of courage in what you do, forexample, so people can borrow
that courage from you and say,hey, if she can do it, I can do
it too.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Absolutely.
It is mine to give.
I am happy Anybody can borrowit.
I would just want to be achampion for women.
I want them to understand thatthey can do it, that they are
enough, that they have theability and the skills, because
it's a highlight reel.
People understand.
People conceptually understandthat social media is a highlight
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reel and that there's a lotbehind the scenes that happens.
I try my best to show it, butthey don't see everything.
They don't see the downs, andas much as I want to show that.
So when we can explain to womenthat it's okay to have bad days
and you have value to give andyou have skills and you have
knowledge, that others don'tlook to talk to the victorias,
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the whoever that you're lookingup to look to talk to the people
that are just one or two stepsbelow you, because imagine how
much they need to hear yourmessage yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Um, that brings us to
our third question.
And uh, so we in the intro Imentioned that you were the
founder of WeBuild.
Now, can you walk us throughthe journey of founding WeBuild?
When you wanted to start thatmovement, what kind of gaps were
you aiming to fill?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's a great
question and I will try to give
this within three minutes.
But here's the thing when Imoved to Ottawa from Nova Scotia
, I didn't have a network and Ididn't understand networking.
I was only just getting intothe game because I started to
post about my bunkies.
And then it opened my eyes tosocial media.
When I moved to Ottawa, I founda networking group it was
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called InvestHer at the time andI attended and I was very
nervous to attend because, again, I'm an introvert, extrovert,
and I have a hard time going tothese types of groups if I'm a
not the leader or if I don'tknow anybody.
So I do understand when peoplehave that inhibition.
I attended and I looked aroundthe room and I saw women that
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were doing incredible things.
They were doing things thatwere much bigger than me and all
I remember thinking to myselfis that if she can do it, I can
do it.
My eyes started to open and Iwas so impacted by that night.
And the next month an emailcame out and they were asking
for a new leader to step upbecause the current one was
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stepping down.
And I remember just almostfeeling devastated that here
I've just finally found thiscommunity and I wasn't.
I didn't feel ready to takeover the leadership because I
just got, I just learned aboutnetworking.
I didn know Ottawa, I was notin that scene.
It took three emails to go byand they basically said the
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chapter would get disbanded.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
If you didn't step up
.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I stepped up and I
grew that chapter over two years
to over 600 membersconsistently and it was
incredible and I actually endedup going to the US.
I started to run the behind thescenes night and the women
followed and they came over andso now it's under the WeBuild
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umbrella and I'm very excited.
I'll announce it here.
Mario, you're getting anexclusive.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But we are opening up
a new chapter in Toronto and so
I actually have two women thatare in Toronto that have stepped
up and really want to, you know, be a part of the movement, and
so, yeah, we'll be opening thatup for January.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
For January.
All right, that's very excitingnews.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, I have not
shared that yet.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, we're happy to
be the first one to be released
the information.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So the gap in the
market is the fact that it's not
meant to be.
I was having this conversationtonight.
Actually, these women's groupsaren't here to just like be
another place for women to havewine and hang out, aren't here
to just like be another placefor women to have wine and hang
out.
It's so that women's voices getheard, that women are feeling
empowered, that they're beingsupported in these rooms.
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We actually are able to come tothese events like we do.
We have actually more husbandsthat are coming to these events,
which is fantastic, but I'veseen a real gap in the market of
, like, women's voices, wherewe're normally a minority in the
room, and so this is a greatopportunity to just have that
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collective and know that you'rebeing supported a hundred
percent.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's amazing and it
kind of ties down to our fourth
question Different organization, but you're the president of
the CREWA, the Canadian RealEstate Investing Women's
Association.
As president, and maybe it tiesdown to the last question, but
what vision do you have forsupporting women in real estate
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investing?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
supporting women in
real estate, investing.
It's opening doors.
It's always been about that forme, and it's not to create a
space that is unaccessible topeople, and so you know, our
membership fee is $150 for theentire year.
Like the goal is literally tojust open doors for women,
because that's all they need isjust to have some seeds planted.
They just need to be in a roomand look around and see that
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there are women that are justlike them that are doing it,
which is exactly what happenedto me.
I went 16, 17 years investingand had never experienced that,
and it took that to catapult mycareer in real estate, and so
that is the number one goal isto plant seeds, open doors, and
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CRUA is a great opportunitybecause I'm from Ottawa and so
now I get to really impactanother market, which is Toronto
and now having WeBuild and thenbeing able to overlap, because
the intention of CRUA is tohighlight women's groups and
women's opportunities, and Iknow that CRUA is really
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starting to bring in a lot offamily-oriented type talks and
people, and so we're reallytrying to just like continue to
serve a need to serve a need.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, this is amazing
because also having women
empowered or reopening doors forthem to invest in real estate,
investing, first of all, we allinvest in real estate to leave a
legacy to our next generation,right, and who better to do it
than the woman in the family?
Like, if you know the, the oldmentality was oh, the men are,
take care of business and theyinvest.
But it's not that anymore.
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So now, if they, if, if youopen doors, you, you facilitate,
um, that process, uh, so somany more families can be
impacted by, uh, more wealth.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Absolutely, and it's
breaking down these limiting
beliefs that a lot of women willhave and they'll say, like I'm
too busy because of my kids, I'mtoo busy because of this, but
it's like, no, do it for yourkids and involve them, like I'm
a mother myself and my son,since being a baby, has been
with me throughout this journeyof investing.
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He's come to our renovations andit's really cool to watch how
you know before it used to beabout what can we entertain him
with so we can just get thesethings done this weekend that we
need to invest in ourrenovation, and now he's
involved.
He's 12 years old and now hegoes on payroll.
Now he's like putting furnituretogether.
He's 12 years old and now hegoes on payroll.
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Now he's like putting furnituretogether.
He's, you know, understandingthe business and my husband
those who know him he's abodyguard.
He's, like you know, a realmanly man, but he understands,
from an investing perspective,that like that's my jam, this is
where my this is where I shine,and so he's been such an
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incredible support system andfor us.
So we're really trying to justlike break down those limiting
beliefs and show women what'spossible and how you can
actually do this with yourfamily and it creates amazing
memories.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
That's, that's great.
Brings us to our last question.
Already Our fifth questionno-transcript.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Ooh, do you know what
kind of excites me?
It's?
It is the volatility of themarket, it is understanding the
market and you see so manypeople come in hot and they come
out just as fast.
And so what excites me isknowing how consistent I will be
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and I will just like chug away,I will, one step after next,
and that, that long-termthinking, and so when I can
connect with people and I canjust like help them stay
consistent, help them followthrough and stop being fair
weather investors and come inonly when the market is hot and,
you know, favorable forinvestors.
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But it's actually these timesright now, because that
conviction of knowing that ifyou stay the course, that the
market will reward you in thelong run, and so I kind of get
excited about these times.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's very, like you
said, challenging for a lot of
investors and it's exciting atthe same time.
If you want to do this longterm, you can't just buy every
five years.
I mean you can, but it's theconstant portfolio managing that
is exciting.
You know, that's what a realinvestor is Consistently have to
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manage the ups and the downs ofthe game.
So, yeah, that's really.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
There's a saying that
we have in the military it's
adapt and overcome.
And the market is just likethat.
It's about just like adaptingand overcoming every step of the
way and pivoting.
And so that excitement is I'mnot afraid of failure, I'm not
afraid of making mistakes.
I trusted myself to pivot andto be able to, you know, find a
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way.
I'm resourceful, and so it doesadd an element of excitement,
but also just I trust that Iwill continue to get through.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Victoria, it was such
a pleasure to talk with you
today.
Lots of insights, lots of, Ithink.
I don't know if encouragementis the right word, but people,
women especially, can look up toyou and they can also put the
links how people can reach youin the description of the video.
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How people can reach you in thedescription of the video, but
they can reach out to you andmaybe ask for your help or your
experience if they want tofurther talk, because you
brought lots of knowledge today.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much, and you knowI always try to give a bit of a
gift and if there's any of yourfollowers or listeners, if they
ever want to learn.
My background is in psychologyand so, personality wise, I
think that that's a really bigcomponent for investors to
understand themselves and howthey tick.
So I always have like a littlething.
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If they want to just likemessage me marketing, they will
actually get a copy of apersonality quiz totally free
and they can learn aboutthemselves and like what type of
investor and entrepreneur thatthey are.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
That's very cool.
Well, victoria, that's it fortoday, but we will talk to you,
hopefully very soon.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Thank you, mario, it
was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
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