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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm sure you do not
want to live in a building which
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is 50-60% safe.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to the 5
Questions Podcast, where we
unlock real estate and businessinsights one question at a time.
Welcome to the 5 QuestionsPodcast.
I am your host, mario Lamar,our guest on today's show, has
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built bridges, towers, companies, then turned that precision on
the markets.
Founder and CEO of FutureWealth Group and co-developer of
Big Footprints.
Welcome, ari Vaz.
Ari, welcome to the FiveQuestions podcast today.
Thank you, mario.
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How are you doing?
I'm doing very well.
I can't wait to have a goodconversation with you because
you've done a lot of things inyour life and I want to tap into
your insights and help ourlisteners that are curious about
investing in the tradingmarkets.
So my first question to youbecause you didn't start there,
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you were more in the engineeringand construction.
So, from steel plants in Indiato high rises project in the
Kuwait, to a family office inCanada, what single principle
from engineering still drivesevery trading decision you make
today?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Thank you for your
question.
It has been a long journey.
I was in Middle East Kuwait for10 years.
Before that, in India steelplant manufacturing we were
doing a specialized project.
I was involved in that and thenmulti-rises in Kuwait revolving
restaurant towers, everything.
And when I moved to Canada Ibecame an entrepreneur.
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At that time our engineeringdegree.
I got my immigration based onengineering.
But when you land here youdon't have local experience.
So I became entrepreneur and Igot involved in import-export
business.
During the import-exportbusiness I was buying and
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selling in US dollars, so Istarted investigating a little
bit about the Forex market andother things.
That was my beginning in thefinancial market because of
something else Because of Forexthat I needed US dollars.
That I needed.
So that's how I got started inthere.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Okay, that's good and
from your experience in
engineering and your pastexperience and what you were
doing, how did you convert thatinto the decision-making process
that you put into trading today?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Excellent question.
Basically in engineering, youneed 100 precision, accuracy and
precision.
I'm sure you do not want tolive in a building which is 50
60 safe no no, you don't want todrive on a bridge which is 50
60 percent safe.
It has to be 100 safe.
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So when I ventured into thefinancial markets due to my
import business, I got some verygood education in technical
analysis.
You would be surprised that myfirst account, which was after,
paying $5,000 for my firsteducation in technical analysis
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it was a good luck or momentum.
Something was there that myfirst account from $3,000 went
into 30,000 in three months.
That is 10 times.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Wow, that's very good
.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
When you are doing
that good and basically you do
not know anything about themarket.
One day I stepped away from thecomputer for a couple of hours.
I had to drop somebody at theairport for four or five hours.
I went away and to be on thesafe side it was late hours,
when the market doesn't move, soI removed my stop.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
To be safe, that in
case there's a spike or
something and takes me out andguess what, After four hours I
return my account.
30,000 is down to 4,000.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Oh my God, that is
not good that woke me up.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That was a real wake
up call.
That technical analysis didn'thelp me.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
What happened?
I still not able to figure itout.
I couldn't figure it out.
I have not been able to.
So what I did first thing isstop trading for six months.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I went deep into
technical analysis more analysis
, more indicators.
Eventually I realized that thesuccess in market is best
education.
You can only make 50 to 60%.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, that brings us
to our second question that I
want to ask you and becauseyou've said 50 to 60% is a maybe
would never fly in construction.
Like you mentioned, you don'twant to go live in a building
that you have 50% chance offalling down.
When did you realize and youtalked about it a little bit
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that most trading approach wereexactly that, and what changes
changed in your process the dayyou decided that precision was
everything or nothing?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Basically the markets
have, especially for traders,
institutions is different game.
For retail traders and smalloffice people who are trading,
the failure rate is very high.
I tried to figure it out howcome people come in for six
months, lose everything and goback, and even people who are
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successful, they have a successrate of 50 to 60% and then if
they have a risk reward of morethan one to two, then only they
can survive.
But again it is a yo-yo life.
That is when I saw thestatistics in the market that
90% failure rate.
Best of the effort is 50 to 60%risk reward.
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Unless it is that 50 to 60% canbe with the risk reward of more
than two, it is a failure.
That's why I realize thatprecision and some accuracy is
needed.
If it is not there, anybody andeverybody like 90 percent of
the people.
So basically 10 percent peopleare making money.
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They are making money from the90 percent because it's a
zero-sum game.
Nobody puts money for thewinners.
It is people who are losing themoney, people who are winning
there.
So, zero-sum game 10% aremaking.
That is what made me thinkabout some precision, some
accuracy, and that's when westarted working on that.
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I opened a prop office inToronto with about 55 traders.
Unfortunately none of themsucceeded.
But those failed traders taughtme so much that here I am.
I have a system which is calledBig Footprints.
It is giving me unbelievablesuccess and I'll explain a
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little bit later.
So that got me started intoprecision and accuracy in the
market.
And now the flip side of thatproblem is that nobody believes
that it is possible to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, that brings us
to my third question, talking
about big footprints.
Why don't you give us yourelevator pitch for big
footprints?
You know what is aninstitutional footprint, how
does it work?
Your rule-based framework thattranslate it into a timestamp
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entry, the defined stops, thestructured exits, maybe the
options, forex equities?
Give us that elevator pitch.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Okay, over the period
of time, while working on my
algo, we discovered thatinstitutions are the main
players in the market.
They are the one who move themarket and they are never random
players.
They have their own formulawhich they will never explain,
never tell us, never share withus, but they are not random
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players.
That's why institutions arealways making money.
Of course, every 10 years theyneed a bailout.
That is a different thing, butthey are not random players and
somehow we found out that theyare leaving footprints in the
market and we have tried tocatch those footprints and now,
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using our algo big footprints,we are able to pinpoint the
entry exact with timestamp.
It gives us the date and thetime the trigger has happened.
For those.
We used optimized price charts.
Everybody 99 people in themarket at least, I have not come
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across anyone who uses pricecharts.
We use price charts, comparedto 99% who use time charts.
What is the difference betweenprice charts and time charts?
Price charts if there is nomovement in the market, no new
candle will be formed.
But price charts every 30minutes, new candle will be
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formed.
But price chart every 30minutes new candle will be
formed.
So that way we are able to cutout all the noise.
So basically, the big footprintis simple entry exit, and it
also generates the stop losswhere the market most likely
will not go.
So we have entry, exit and stoploss.
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These are the three parametersthat every trader needs and
that's how we have been able touse this successfully and it
seems to be working very well.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Wow.
So from one chart you get thethree data points that you need
to be successful.
And this is you co-founded the-.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Sorry, actually I
have two charts, two charts.
One generates the signal, thatgets transferred to the tradable
chart, and that's how just twocharts Okay.
Actually you can say I cantrade off the one main chart
also, but very limited chart.
I can trade off the one mainchart also, but very limited
chart.
And surprising thing is that wehave a template which works for
forex, bonds, stocks, indices,gold, anything that is liquid
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enough in the futures market.
Bigfoot can handle it, evenBitcoin.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Wow, that's amazing.
So maybe for people tovisualize and understand better,
can you give us a story, walkus through maybe, a recent trade
where big footprints kept youcalm against the crowd.
I would call it.
Meta markers showed up, maybe.
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Where did you place the stop?
Uh, and what created convictionto?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
either old or exit
the trade.
All right, I'll give you arecent example of a gold.
Gold has been moving a lot.
Okay, if the gold price isaround 3400, you you would be
surprised since the inaugurationthis year, or you can say 2025.
Gold on its own has moved morethan $1,200, $1,300 up, down, up
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down.
The last trade that I can look.
I pull up my chart here and Ican give you exactly.
I pull up my chart here and Ican give you exactly On 7th of
August, at 2044, means 844 inthe evening, we got a trigger
for short.
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Okay, so it gave us a triggerfor short and the gold was
around $3,500 at that time.
In about 12 days, the gold hit$3,350.
That's a $150 move.
$150 move, clean one chart.
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Unfortunately, I cannot showyou the screen, but I'm looking
at a screen that clearly showsme and this $150 move we are
talking about, if we take onestandard lot, that is a $15,000
move in 20 days.
If we just go with mini, it is$1,500.
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Still not bad.
With mini it is 1500.
Still not bad.
Yeah, another thing that wehave done in big footprints that
we are able to separate anychart, any chart, any trading
price frame.
We are able to separate thechart into bullish chart and the
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bearish chart, which I don'tthink anyone has been able to do
it Recently in LinkedIn.
Two weeks ago in LinkedIn, Iput in a contest or challenge
that anybody who replicates of achart, they will get $1,000
cash from me.
Up till now, in two weeks,nobody has said that.
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Now I'll give you anotherexample of Bitcoin.
On Friday, as soon as 10o'clock Powell started speaking,
the Bitcoin shot up.
We got a signal at 8.22.
This is very rare.
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8.22 means August 22.
At 10.06, six minutes afterPowell started speaking, we had
a long signal and Bitcoin wentalmost like 113 to 117.
That's a 4,000 move in lessthan three hours.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
But we got a clear
signal and guess what happens.
That is Friday, the Friday.
The market closed at 4 o'clock435, whatever the different time
period zones we are in andyesterday, on the Sunday evening
, when the market opened, rumorsare that somebody sold 25,000
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Bitcoins and my chart gave me asignal.
24th of July, at 8.19, twohours after opening, we got a
signal to go short.
And guess what?
It was around 114,000 at thattime and yesterday it touched
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109.
Overnight last night it touched109,600.
That is 3,600 move after we gotour signal.
So first we got 4,000 Friday,but of course, ahead of such
announcements, I personally stayout of the market.
Let the market dance.
We don't want to interfere orget burned, stay out.
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But Sunday, when it came short,that is a good signal to take
and up till now it is stillstaying.
Unfortunately I cannot sharethe chart, but from Friday the
drop has been more than 7,900.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, that's.
But who sold 25,000?
Rumors are BlackRock sold.
Nobody would know.
This is what the problem is.
The institutions never sharewhat they are doing.
They have their own strategy,but my footprints, big
footprints, caught that somebodyis selling.
This is the signal.
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Take it or leave it.
We have always a choice andwhat.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
What I like about
your offering with big
footprints is it's not just forone type of of asset, so meaning
bitcoin, and maybe you don'tlike bitcoin, but you can still
use it for gold and you or youcan still use it for forex or
whatever you decide or you liketo trade, you you can use your
strategies to be successful.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Any liquid futures
contract can be traded here
Commodities, corn, oil, platinum, anything.
That is amazing we have to takeabout one minute through our
mathematical formula to optimizeevery instrument.
Once we optimize it, we can seevery clearly now optimization.
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I'll explain in a way.
You, the SPX, is the biggestbiggest animal, I would say, in
the market.
For optimizing SPX, I need7,000 ticks, 7,000 units.
I would call it and you wouldbe surprised 20 to 30-year
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T-bonds, which are the biggestin the market.
Just like SPX, they work onlyon 50 units.
So we have figured out theformula the biggest bond market
50 units.
The biggest SPX market 7,000units.
Look at the difference.
But we can optimize anything inless than 30 seconds.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That is incredible.
We're already at our fifthquestion, ari, today.
And for our retail traderslistening this week, and for our
retail traders listening thisweek, what are three
non-negotiables I would have tosay to move from an indicator
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chasing to clarity, convictionand calm, and where should they
start if they want to learn more?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
First, my personal
first advice after struggling
with the technical analysis,with failure rate in the market,
with the success of 50 to 60percent, my first advice is move
away from day trading.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Day trading is pure,
simple noise.
Okay, day trading is pure,simple noise.
I can show in my big footprintsthat the daily charts they
don't even show in our charts.
So first I would say move awayfrom day trading.
Second is pick up a swing.
Swings can be like Bitcoin.
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It was just two days swing,4,000 up, 4,000 down, unusual,
very unusual.
But pick up some swing whichcan be one to three days.
Pick up some swing which isthree days to 10 days, three
weeks and even longer.
So pick up any swing of thatcomfort level and go with that.
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Don't focus on parameters,trading indicators, but
parameters.
That we need is entry, exit andstop loss.
These are the threenon-negotiable.
That should be precise.
Every trader should have achecklist for entry, exit and
stop loss.
Without that, don't even try it, because if you can't control
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those three parameters, it isuseless.
So pick up a swing entry, exitsand come up with your own
formula.
Even if I share my formula, evenif somebody takes my big
footprint chart, they will notknow how to optimize every chart
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.
So it is useful.
So basically, till you learn,you can follow our big
footprints, but eventually everytrader should try and come up
with their own strategy and mylast and most important advice
is do not trade with money thatyou cannot afford to lose.
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If you cannot afford to lose,if it affects your lifestyle
eventually, protect yourlifestyle and your capital and
then have some surplus money.
Start exploring, startexploiting the inefficiencies or
learning from the market.
Till then you can tag on withsomebody who can give you
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service and, while you aremaking money, learn and
eventually the best thing iscome up with your own system.
But never use money, borrowedmoney or never use money that
you cannot afford to lose.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
These are great
counsels for people who are
listening, who maybe want tostart trading.
They see it as a fast money,but if you don't know what
you're doing, you can loseeverything in a day, in a matter
of hours or minutes yes, thereis one opportunity.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
These days there are
prop trading offices everywhere.
Setups maybe explore those, butin those it is day trading,
which I which I advise against.
Every prop trading office has arule that the trading must stop
or the position must be closedby 10 minutes after four o'clock
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.
That becomes a day trading.
I do not like it.
But to practice, to learn toget exposure, that is fine.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
So, from everything
that you said today, you
obviously tested your strategies, tested the markets, tested a
lot of knowledge to go withyears of experience.
Now, if somebody wants to reachout to you or maybe get their
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hands on your big footprintstrategies, how can they do that
?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I'm very active in
LinkedIn.
I post almost every week, ifnot often, so they can connect
with me on LinkedIn.
I have a Telegram channel whereI post my charts free of cost,
and I'm also on X, which is XTwitter.
So I'm on all those three andwe are coming up with something
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new, but it is not ready as yetwhere they can access our charts
.
For now, they can connect withme in LinkedIn, telegram and X.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
We'll make sure to
put those links in the
description of this podcast.
Harry, it was a pleasure totalk with you today.
Lots of knowledge.
You're my first guest, actually, who really knows and dives
deep into trading and strategies.
So I really feel privileged tohave talked to you and hopefully
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our listeners can take a pieceof your wisdom on their journey
of being successful and makingmore money without losing their
shirt.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
One last thing
markets are not random and
markets will never surprise youif you are prepared.
That's what Big Footprints ishelping us.
We are not doing random thingsbecause the market is not random
and anybody who wants to besuccessful they have to first
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accept that theory or thatunderstanding.
Learn first and then play themarket.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Thank you for your
counsel, Zari.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
It was a pleasure to
talk with you today.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Honor.
Thank you Bye for now.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
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