The White Lotus Finale & YouTubers Breaking the Law

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We dive headfirst into the White Lotus Season 3 finale and share our unfiltered thoughts on the season as a whole! We also dive into Alex's headshots, YouTube headlines & what's on our A-List of the Week!

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Allison Florea

Alex Hinsky

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's it, I think I have a heart attack.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Remember when Demi Lovato sang heart attack at like
the heart convention?

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, heart convention.
What was it?
The like National HeartAssociation fundraiser or
something?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, that was weird right.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
That was choice.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I think Caleb was there and he didn't like think
about it, but when I saw thevideos and everyone else, it was
like do we feel like this isout of touch, or is it maybe
they asked her to?
You know?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
sing, but she has another song about a heart that
she could have sang too whichone heart and I can't think of
it.
Skyscraper would have been abetter one skyscraper is a great
song you know jordan sparks isdoing the backup vocals on that
song I didn't know I do speakingof also singing, um, I listened

(00:56):
to t-pain.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I didn't realize.
He put on spotify remember thatconcert he did where he sang a
bunch of covers and everyone waslike, oh my god, t-pain has a
great voice and everyone waslike dying over it like the
youtube videos um well, peoplejust had their own like phone

(01:20):
videos of it and it was goingaround on tiktok and I was like
well, I didn't know t-pain couldsing like this.
And then I he just released asong with kesha, like a couple
days ago, or it was her songthat he's on, yeah.
And then I went to his spotifyand I was like, oh, he released

(01:40):
a whole album, that is.
All these like live vocals ofhim singing these there's some
of them are covers, I think mostof them are covers but he has
such a great voice that whatyear was that?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
like no, the album that you saw because I'm pretty
sure that what you're referringto is he did like a live youtube
show or something, and then heposted the audio from oh I mean,
it wasn't, it wasn't thatrecent, a couple years ago, I
feel, yeah, yeah that's thatthat it was a youtube show had
no not a show.
It was like he did a live set,oh, and then they released the

(02:14):
songs oh, okay didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
What an exciting thing to find, though it was
exciting because I've seen thosevideos so many times and I get
excited every time I see one ofthem did you add them to your
Spotify playlist?
I did not, but now that I'velistened I feel like they'll
come up for me again.
I hope so.
You want to get into it?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Let's do it.
Welcome back to the alicepodcast with allison and alex
I'm allison and I am alex heyhow was your weekend?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
it was cute.
We went to josh um.
Josh took me to see the AlvinAiley Dance Company.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
That's right Downtown .
How was that?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
It was gorgeous they're so good.
It reminded me a lot of oh mygosh, did you just write that?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, but what was that ?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, it reminded me of college dancing, because in
college it's very different from, like, commercial or
competition dancing, yeah, andit's very quintessential modern
like movements and stuff, andthe alvin ailey dance company is
also that kind of movement,yeah, and so it really took me

(03:40):
back to college.
But, uh, we had to.
We studied alvin ailey inschool also, so it was cool to
see in person because we wouldwatch videos and then have to
have discussions about it andstuff like that, yeah, but
everyone was so good.
It was very, um, religiousundertones.
It was like there is in threeacts, so there were twomissions,

(04:04):
one was like 15 minutes and onewas short, like five minutes or
something, but the beginningwas, um, I I think from what I
picked up, based on also some ofthe titles of the pieces it was
like the beginning was you'rekind of on earth and then the

(04:25):
middle act was you were inheaven or hell.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Wait, was it.
Heaven or hell was like cloudsand it was very ethereal and it
was giving heaven.

(04:50):
Okay, but then there was alsoone that was three guys and it
was giving hell.
There was flames on thebackground, was this at a church
no, it was downtown at atheater was it the hominson?
No, it was a woman's name,dorothy.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
It was at Dorothy.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
It was at Dorothy.
Okay, the third act was likemore upbeat and, like you know,
getting down, so highlyrecommend.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, it was good Sunday, didn't really do much.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Did it?
Did I?
No, I worked out and I edited.
No, that was Saturday,definitely.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Was it?
Yeah, it was, it was Saturday.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, I don't think anything really happened besides
.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Wasn't the Albanini dance thing on Saturday, Friday.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Friday.
So I feel like Saturday Ididn't do much and also Sunday I
didn't do much.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Okay that I didn't do much and also Sunday I didn't
do much.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Okay, you had a chill weekend Nice.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
What'd you do?
So Did we record on Friday, orwe recorded?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Thursday we it was the end of the week, it was.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Friday morning.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
And then we went.
You went shopping with me, sooh yeah, that was fun.
Yeah, so I ended up wearing so,allison and I.
I had headshots on Saturday, soAllie and I went shopping after
we recorded on Friday, so thatshe could help me find some
looks.
I ended up wearing thesweatshirt from Uniqlo was
perfect with the black jeanjacket.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
It was like a maroon sweatshirt.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, in the photos it really looks chocolate brown,
which is kind of nice.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, I like a black and brown moment in clothes and
some people don't.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
It was nice.
And then I wore that yeah, thejean jacket from forever 21 over
it.
And then my second look I endedup like using something from my
closet I've never worn before,because I was like everything I
pieced together, because I wastrying on a bunch of things
friday night.
Everything was black, black,gray, a touch of white and I was
like I need something withcolor.

(06:44):
So I have this like shortsleeve denim button up that I've
never worn, and I was like, oh,this is very commercial.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh, okay, cute.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
So I wore that for the second look and then my
third.
I did my like silver steel toedboots, black jeans, just a
white tank top and then that,the other jacket I got from
Forever 21, the one with thetexture that was like the only
one left.
It looks really good.
Those photos are really fun.
Um, so I was up very lateFriday Just be.

(07:14):
I wanted to make sure,absolutely sure, what I was
going to wear.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, what time did you have to be there, not till?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
1230.
I scheduled it for later in thelike the afternoon, cause A
it's in pasadena and b because Iwas like I don't want to be
puffy yeah which I did a lot ofresearch to a couple weeks ago
on like the best under eyepatches for puffiness and
discoloration or like lightness.
So I bought these ones.
I was like they're so expensive, but they had really good
reviews what was the brand?

(07:38):
God damn it.
I don't remember, but it's.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
They're pink and red like is it like a well-known
brand?
Yeah, oh, pink and red.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Six pack for like $20 .
Oh my God, I was like okay,well.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Did they work?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Oh my God, I got like six hours of like some weird
white like lightning thathappened to my eyes, like I have
naturally like pretty darkunder eyes, have my whole life,
and this like did something.
Plus I had concealer that I puton after but puffiness gone and
it's like only wear them 15minutes.
I was like that's, I'm gonna do20 well, I get it no, it didn't
burn anything.

(08:12):
And the the thing with undereye patches everyone who wears
them knows this, but the jellyones always slide just slide
down.
It's like no, so I specificallywanted ones that were like
anti-slip yeah and actuallyworked.
I will never not buy any otherkind.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
These were incredible well, you're gonna have to drop
the link I will.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Okay, I got them on off of amazon.
Let me just look real quick soeveryone knows, including you,
allison.
So so sorry it's worth the wait, because everyone should know,
because I'll forget well, theydon't have to wait.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I'll probably just cut out the dead air.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know good point, um point, and then so that.
So Saturday morning I wake up,I put on the under eye patches,
I'm like, okay, I'm feeling good, faded, the brand is Faded.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Faded, all right.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
And it's there.
Oh, it's Faded by Topicals,topicals Faded Brightening Under
Eye Mask.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, $22 for a six pack.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
That's insane, but I did it and I'm going to be
stingy with them, but it works.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I'm sure like if you wait until you really
need them, then yeah, Like thisis not.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
this is not an everyday kind of thing, but
anyway.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
So I got up, I had a great morning.
I had my coffee, I was in agreat mood, I had everything
packed and ready to go.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I left I got there.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I got there with five minutes to spare.
There was no traffic.
The photographer was so nice.
He his name is Jimmy, he was.
You know.
It's like people look at me andthey're like you're someone I
can just tell everything to youknow, that happens.
So it was 0.5 seconds into likehugging saying hello, we're

(09:49):
walking to the studio and I waslike how's your day going so far
?
He's like uh, you know, I'm, Ijust I'm going through a
heartbreak and I was like butTom's house is broken into Tom's
house, I was like, oh my God, Iwas like dude, I'm coming out
the other end of that.
So like I totally, totally feelfor you and he was like you do
oh my god, did he start crying?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
no, but I was like is this?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
I was like no, listen , like so I mean, he was, he was
pretty light about it and I waslike the universe, please don't
let this affect the shoot.
No, but it didn't.
We got in there he.
He showed me like because I hadsent him the looks very late
the night before, because hewanted to like pre-set up the
backdrops or have them ready,and I was was like I'm sorry
this is so late, but I wanted tobe sure he had everything ready
to go.
He played.

(10:28):
He was like do you have a musicpreference?
I was like what did you havegoing on?
He's like I was going to playAriana's new album.
I was like perfect, is he gay?
He is of the topic ofspirituality and how he came out
here very religious and goingto church.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Are you the same person?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
He was born in China.
He's from China and then butlived in the Midwest and then
came out here and was closetedthe whole thing.
I was like brother, I get it Doyou want to meet up and cry?
Yeah, we're going to hang outcause we hit it off he was
really nice, um, and then heasked me if I would be open to
modeling for some of his artworkand he's, he does like a.

(11:09):
He does really amazingphotography with lights like
light, like kind of like benyeah, you know, oh, okay very
creative, very like slow shutterspeed but with like, really
like, really good stuff and hewas like more editorial, yeah
exactly, and he was like ifyou're like, I'd love to hire
you to do that.
I was like, yeah, of course.
So I'm supposed to get thephotos tomorrow to choose, and

(11:31):
then like raw or he's editing.
He's going to well, yeah, allof them, and then I'm going to
choose five from each look andhe's going to edit them.
I was like five, generous butalso that's not normal.
No Like with the headshotsession I have in may.
They're like insane one.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
She will edit two but you get all of them so you
could edit from him.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I get all the raws in full quality so I can edit, and
I didn't share with him thatI'm you're good at it, because
what if you don't like his edit?
Exactly.
But what if I love his edit?
Yeah, so he does five per look,so 15 total and then 20 per
beyond that.
But I was like I won't thankyou.
Um, she will edit two out ofthe whole.
All of them.
I'm doing four looks with herout of all four looks two, and

(12:15):
then she gives you all of themin a low resolution why would
she even do that?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
exactly like why would you want low res photos?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
because you can technically use low res photos.
So, like angela explained thisto me, because she has shot with
her, okay, they're like youcan't, you can print them on a
five by like eight and a half byeleven, like what you do with
your resume, and it's fine yeahanything beyond that size like
it's not good quality okay I, Iwould.
I would equate it to like whatan iphone photo would be like.
That quality okay, but then theone she gives you edited, could

(12:45):
literally be on a poster, likeon a billboard yeah okay, so she
does two included and thenbeyond that it's like 40 each
could you pay more if you wantedthem in high res?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
like does she have tiers of?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
no, so like say there was one I wanted in high res,
the only option is to pay her toedit it.
Okay, so angela's, like I likeway she edits, so it's going to
be fine.
And like Angela's, like you canadd a low resolution and.
I and also we have AI that canenhance things.
So not stressed about it.
But no, that's not normal toedit that many.
Okay and um, then I'm hittingthe ground running.

(13:17):
We got, we got lots of thingshappening.
I'm excited.
So that was my Saturday, andthen I treated myself.
I was like I haven't had pizzain a fortnight, so I got my
favorite gluten-free.
A fortnight that's two weeks.
So I got my favoritegluten-free crust pizza from the
pizza press and sat upstairsand re-hung my sheer curtains

(13:40):
and watched, binge-watchedsomething, what was it?
Michelle Buteau's show onNetflix.
And then, I don't know, her hada great little evening to
myself and it was a greatSaturday.
And then yesterday I, what didI do?
Wow, lots of empty space here.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Probably edited.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh, I edited the podcast.
And then I I definitely leftthe house at some point.
I did a oh, I edited thepodcast and then I definitely
left the house at some point.
I did a lot of work around thehouse, built that.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, like that.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Furniture's getting built.
You guys, my bed is built.
Oh, that's what I did Fridaynight or Saturday night I built
the bed, I did my curtains andbuilt the bed.
So I was up pretty lateSaturday doing that, and then
Sunday.
I definitely left the house atsome point.
Oh, I went to the veganfarmer's market in north
hollywood, which I used to go toall the time because it was
right behind where I lived withmy ex.
So we just walk outside you knowthe red line station?

(14:33):
Yeah, so it's like they blockoff lancashire and it's vegan.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Does that just mean it's produce or it's vegan
products?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
vegan vendors.
So it's like it's like all thefood is vegan and then like
there's clothing and yeah youknow little shops and crystal
things and that it was hot ashell, but it was cute.
And then did some more buildingof furniture and stuff wow it
was a very productive weekendand then I was like I'm so ready
for monday.
And then monday hit and I waslike, yeah, so much to do so I

(15:02):
forgot I forgot that I went onsuch a long walk yesterday,
which was Sunday.
What kind of a walk?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I just went on a walk .

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Like a long girl walk .
Yeah, like under the bridgewith the pigeons.
Yes, oh, you did, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
So yeah, because I was going to go to like a
stretch class at the yoga place.
Yeah, because it wasn't goingto be like high intensity, I
wasn't going to be burning a lotof calories.
I was like oh, like I also, I'mgoing to go on a walk just to
do like a little extra movement.
Today I walked up in Jura.
I walked all the way to I don'tknow the name of the street.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Would it be more park ?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
No more park is like parallel.
Is it by the Galleria?
Is that the street you'retalking about?
no, I walked um to where, likecrave cafe sushi is okay, I
don't know, I don't know whatit's called either, but I but I
went to a couple like thriftshops as I walked by them,
because there's a second streeton the one side and then there's

(16:04):
a different one on the otherside, and so how were?
They.
I mean I didn't really buyanything.
If, if something really jumpedout to me that I was going to be
super excited about, I wouldhave bought it, but I didn't
really want to carry it around,have something in my hands.
Um, and I walked by this massageplace and there was ladies
outside and I was like I knowwhat they're going to talk to me

(16:25):
, even though I had headphonesin, yeah, but they stopped me
and they were like, hey, do youget massages?
And I was like I do.
And they were like, okay, wow,and because I feel like probably
people are like no, so theywere excited about that.
And then they were like oh, solike where do you go?
And I was like, look, I'm, I'mnot going to lie to you.

(16:46):
I go to massage and V, but Ipay $70 a month and no one else
has that same price.
So it's, it would be reallyhard for me to change.
And I was just going to walkaway after that and she was like
, oh, I understand, $70 is hardto beat.
But like, oh, this used to be amassage and V.
And I was like, yeah, I know Iused to come here.
And she was like do you want tocome in and see all the changes

(17:08):
we've made?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Was this a grand opening or something?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
No, it's been open forever.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
This is just their boss was like get out and get
some people in here and I waslike sure I didn't want to, but
I felt bad.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
So she walked me in and she showed me they have
these like little beds that youcan lay in while you're waiting
for your massage that likevibrate and have like sound, and
I'm sure that they're great.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
That sounds very nice to do.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
And then she showed me the rooms.
They look exactly like everyother massage room that's ever
been made.
And then she was like, oh, shewas telling me the prices and
everything.
And I was like you know what?
Thank you for this informationand I will let you know, bless,
but you're.
Their memberships are a hundreddollars to $115, depending on

(17:58):
you, there's a membership place.
It's a membership place you haveto sign.
I mean you could pay for aone-off, I'm sure, but it's
gonna be way more expensive.
Yeah, it was like um, you cansign up for a full 12 months
like a contract and that is the99.
Or if you pay monthly with nocontract, it's like 110 or 115
and I was like, I think, onemassage a month yeah, I was like

(18:21):
I'm sorry, I pay 70, I going todo it again.
And here's the thing.
Um, I have been grandfatheredinto that amount because it is
higher pretty much at everyother place.
Uh, at massage and be, and Iwent to a different location
than my home location last month.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
And every other time I've done that like they still
honor my price that I've paid.
And this one I went to was likeum, I just need to collect 10
more dollars from you becauseour price is $79.
I was like yo, you should tellme that beforehand, because I
wouldn't have come here, I couldhave just gone to my home place
.
I like your guys's facilitybetter, and so that's why I came

(19:01):
here.
But I would have just I couldhave just gone to my home
building.
So now I will never be back herebecause that's annoying to me
that there was no disclosure.
She was like I'm sorry, my bossjust like said we have to start
doing this because they'venever done it before.
And I was like you need to havesigns up, you need to call me
and tell me so then why doesn'tyour membership just go up?

(19:23):
Well, because I amgrandfathered in.
So if I go to my home one, it'sstill the $69.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It will not change there.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, that was why I was wondering.
So then you're not going to goback to North Hollywood and
they're going to be like $10more please?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
They better not, because then at that point it's
like, then raise the price.
Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure likeit.
For me it will never go up.
They might have raised it fornew customers, but I am
grandfathered into the originalprice.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Is this a write-off for you because it's related to
your?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
work oh my gosh, I try every year to write off my
massage and they're like, if youhave like a condition like
where your doctor says that youhave to get massages, I probably
could go to my doctor and belike hey, can you get me a note?
I just never have, because toget massages I probably could go
to my doctor and be like hey,can you get?
me a note.
I just never have because thisis the only.
This past year is the firstyear I've had a doctor in a long

(20:12):
time, so every year on my taxes.
I'm like wellness and I'm likeI'm a dancer because I can write
off lots of things.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I can write off makeup.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I can write off um types of clothing.
I can write off um makeup.
Did I say makeup, oh hair, okay, spray tans, like anything that
is for me to be used on stageor on camera, can be written off
because I'm a performer, got it.
And I've tried it all the time,and so every time I try again

(20:38):
because I'm just like maybethey'll change the law.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
No, the law is standing strong.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
It's standing Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
But yeah, that was an annoying thing that is annoying
.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, but then did you leavethere and how long was your walk
?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
check that oh sorry, it was um two hours round trip
round trip okay oh, the pigeons.
So I walked down one side of thestreet and I walked back the
other side, yeah, and as I waswalking under the bridge, I was
just like please don't poop onme, please don't poop on me,
please don't poop on me.
And I was like so grossed outbecause I'm walking on the

(21:14):
concrete that there is so muchpoop on and I'm like trying to
tiptoe around or whatever.
And I was.
I had like goosebumps because Iwas so stressed by these
pigeons.
And then there was one thatpopped out in front of me and I
stopped in my tracks and I waslike you better move, get out of
here.
I can't Go on.
I hate birds so much, I hatepigeons so much.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Guys, she hates them.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Ew, but the rest of my walk was great.
I walked into World Market also.
Okay, Gave a little jauntaround, I could have bought a
few things and again I was likeone you don't need these things.
And two.
I didn't want to carry themfurther Right Right Right.
Yeah.
But I realized in my two hourwalk, so on Halloween, Josh and
I went to a bar in that area andfrom there I was like we can

(22:01):
walk home, Like I've totallywalked home before, and we
started to walk and we got acouple blocks and then I
realized that I had on heels, orlike higher heels than just
like tennis shoes, and I waslike we can't do it.
But again I was like walkingthis, I was like we totally
could have done it and I, when Italked to him later he was like

(22:23):
no, like we were drunk and youhad on heels, Like we were never
going to make it that far.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
We can do it.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
We got like a couple blocks and then we had to call
an Uber because my feet hurt.
Anyway, that's a littleanecdote.
Love that yeah.
Um, the White Lotus.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Oh, the White Lotus.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Finale was last night .
Yeah oh, the White Lotus isfinished.
Finale was last night.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, spoilers ahead, I assume.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Spoilers ahead.
I don't know how to tell youhow far to go in advance.
It's probably going to be aminute, because I have things to
say Me too.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I don't know what to say so, this is your time.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I guess we can try to put a timestamp in this time.
Okay, okay okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, so look, yeah, so look for the time, sam.
What are your thoughts?
I initially when it finished.
Oh, that's what I did yesterday.
I watched the white lotus same.
I was not initially.
I was like I wish they hadshown more of like the family's
reaction to realizing.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Also, I loved the theory where um, oh to realizing
that they're broke yeah, I wishthey had shown more of their
reaction.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
But then there was and I also was hoping for this
theory that was going aroundabout how the mom, what is her
name?
lorazepam sam her I don't knowwhat her name is the theory of
like she knew that this wascoming, so she had been
preparing for it, and like therewas.
I was hoping for a month youdidn't hear this theory.
No, that she knew that theywere like going to be in trouble

(23:46):
.
So because there was a commentshe made in an earlier episode
about, uh, an accounts offshoreof the cayman islands, oh so
people were like, ah, what ifshe's been preparing for this
secretly?
He's about to freak out yeah,or like my.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
The theory that I was going with was like he's going
to end up killing one of thekids or something and then she's
going to be like likeaccidentally, you thought
because he was planning to killthem all and she was like he
wasn't planning to kill them alluntil like that moment, right
like all these episodes he wasgoing to kill himself no, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
there's in every episode he has a flash, he has a
vision of him shooting orkilling all of them you're right
.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I truly did not remember that the whole time, so
he was always contemplatingbetween killing them and then
himself, or just himself.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
So I thought he was going to kill a kid.
That's so funny.
And then she was going to belike, why did you do that?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I knew this was coming, I prepared for it.
That would have been betterthan what it was Because when,
okay, yeah, I totally forgotabout the visions, because here
here's my thing I have been nota hundred percent in every
episode.
It's fucking hard to becauseit's so slow.
Yeah, like I think that I,whatever part of me, has a
little bit of adhd in it, Icould not pay attention 100 to

(24:53):
all these episodes I was on myphone.
I was like playing candy crush.
So that is my bad.
I did forget about thosevisions because in the moment I
was like what?
Why are you killing your family?
Just Just kill yourself If?
you're going to do it like yourfamily didn't ask for this and
they're going to get your lifeinsurance policy.
So you're not just going to belike unless you don't have one.
But I feel like they would havetold us that.
So if you really need to killsomeone, kill yourself, and I'm

(25:18):
not condoning that everyone, I'mjust yeah.
At the end, when the sun justlike opened his eyes, I was like
okay.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, he like died for a second.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Like there's no stakes that really pulled
through on that, because, yeah,we didn't get any closure on
them.
He's just like, hey,everything's about to change.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Also, what fool wouldn't rinse the blender?
That was disgusting.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, I heard someone say that today and they were
like, well, he should haverinsed it.
That's what.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I mean they were like , well, he should have rinsed,
rinsed it, that's what I mean.
The dad, because like, oh sure,but like why would you wake up?
You saw this dusty ass blenderjust sitting out all night and
you just add water, and I know.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
But they set it up one he's a teenage boy who's
like dumb.
And two they set it up earlierin the episode where the brother
was like I already made my uhshake the stuff's over there.
You can like make another oneif you want.
So I think that that's whatthey were doing.
They were like one he's a dumbteenager and two like he just
assumed it was his brother'sshake.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
No Cause.
The night before he remember,he walks right past after his
dad makes the pina coladas.
He like, looks right at it.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Cause I thought what was going to happen is he was
going to like sneak it and downit.
I thought that too I will sayabout this family, before we
move on to other people, thatthe whole time he was having
those flashes it was remindingme of the true crime story, like
the real the, the rich dude whorealized he was had no money,
killed his entire family andthen himself, and this happened

(26:49):
somewhere in the midwest, likeback in the late 90s, okay, and
the family, like the bodies,weren't discovered for like a
month okay or no, he fled andstarted a new life, but anyway,
that is what inspired thatstoryline oh, really, so I
watched they are.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I watched them after that episode but I watched.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
After the episode mike white was like it's
inspired by that.
I was like, okay, which sidebareveryone?
That story, the true crimestory I was just mentioning.
This guy kills his whole family, he flees the country, he
starts a new life.
They never catch it.
They don't catch him for a long, long time and in their mansion
they had a tiffany skylightthat was worth more money than
the debt they were in and theycould have just sold it and

(27:27):
everything would have been,isn't that?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
and that is.
I think about that a lot, Ithink about that a lot.
I think about that a lot.
Tiffany's skylight.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Tiffany like stained glass window oh okay.
That was a skylight in theirmansion.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Dang.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Worth more than the debt that they were in.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
That's insane.
It's crazy.
There should be a whole movie.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I agree, but it's just a really popular podcast or
a really popular true crimestory.
Anyway, I digress.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I do understand now why the daughter all of a sudden
switched up and was like but Idon't understand why.
Because she just she goes tothe monastery.
The little brother's like, oh,I think I want to do this too.
And then she's like nevermind,I don't want to do it because I
don't want you to do it with me.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
And then the dad he's like, she's like I don't.
I actually don't think I wantto do this.
Was she saying that justbecause she?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
didn't want the brother.
No, I think she was like likewhat she said in her monologue.
I think she was like trying toforce wanting to do it.
Yeah, because she felt bad thatshe had life so easy yeah, okay
it's like commendable kind ofso then he's just like he was.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Only he was gonna let the one live that said that he
could live yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
So he was gonna let them, I think, let them both
live, and then when she was likeI, I can't, I need all of this
stuff yeah, but like justbecause he said, that doesn't
mean it's true, like the kidyeah, he's just a kid yeah, but
the dad is obviously like offhis rocker he literally tried to
kill them with the strangestlooking fruit yeah, I thought I

(28:52):
thought that he was.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
They were just just all going to die in the sun,
like I.
Really, I thought I feel likethat would have actually been a
better end of their story to me,even though it is would be sad.
I just feel like someone the sun, um finding them the next
morning or whatever the nextmorning or whatever and like him

(29:16):
having to figure that out is amore interesting oh end of the
story to me than him almostdying and then just opening his
eyes and not being dead and thenthen being on the boat just
being like, well, we're you knowthings are about to change and
then we don't see anything everagain I thought there was.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
there could have been a point where that he's
freaking out cause the son isdead.
The family comes back and thenthey help cover it up, like they
get rid of the body.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Also more interesting , but there wasn't enough time.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
There wasn't.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Maybe they get their whole spinoff.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I think it's fun.
Maybe I think it's clever.
They're like through lines toother seasons you haven't seen,
so you didn't.
You didn't catch probably that.
Um, who's the woman that gotthe 5 million?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I feel like her real name is Natasha.
I don't remember her, her andher son Zion they.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
And then she does the the guy that she sleeps with
that she's going to.
She does to him what Tanya didto her.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I heard that.
Yeah, I didn't know that but Idid hear is sad because that guy
liked her and she was a goodperson and that was kind of
shitty.
I my favorite conclusion to anyof the stories was the three
gal pals.
I was like that felt so real.
It was real.
I wrote this down like theyjust ended up having a girl like
a quintessential girls tripwhere they had fun, something

(30:26):
happened.
They got mad at each other theyall got in a fight.
They hate each other for alittle bit and then they have
this like come to jesus talk atthe end of the trip, where
they're like we love each otherand, like you know, girls
forever, and then they're justlike besties yeah, like they,
like the they again like, fullyaccept each other for who they

(30:46):
are and what they are.
It's such a girly pop thing.
Yeah, so I did enjoy thatbecause I was I could, I could
have seen um the one.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Carrie Coon.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Carrie Coon just being like yeah, I don't, like,
I don't actually, like youAgreed.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's what I thought it could have gone that way.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Because, like, that is also interesting, because you
know, she doesn't actually.
I mean there, she loves them,but there are things about them
she doesn't like and her justbeing like.
You know what?
Like, I'm finally standing upfor myself.
I don't actually like beingaround you guys like yeah I
don't want to be your friend,right, um, but it was cute that
it ended up just being like,yeah, it was very real life I
also called that that was hisdad.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I was like I knew it.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I was like this is are we supposed to believe that
he has Asian in him?
Does he in real life?
Because I, when that happened,I was like what?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
well, do you think that his dad was Asian?
Wait what do you think that hewas Asian?
He was Thai you think he was ty?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
wait the owner yeah was he not?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I don't think so interesting or like I think he
was also mixed it.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
If it was that let me look at him again see what his
imdb says okay, he's definitelynot ish, but I feel like he's
from pittsburgh, pennsylvania.
I feel like he looked like itto me.
He's from.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I feel like he looked like it to me and I'm not
saying that you're like.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I'm not accusing you of being blind to race.
Because I knew him from movies,old movies and shows.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, all these pictures are very young of him
that I'm seeing, so I feel likeI would.
Yeah, I need to find one.
That's very recent.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I thought he was maybe mixed, but definitely
there's a white man there, sothat that's kind of what.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
okay, well, I guess I didn't call.
I didn't call that, okay, but Ididn't think that he was going
to come with a gun and likethreaten him, like I thought,
because if he like, since he ishis dad, even even me not
correlating those two things Ifeel like he in my mind.

(33:08):
I thought he was going to comeand just be like hey, like let's
talk, and in public, so youcan't beat me up again and then
explain whatever.
Like I thought that his part wasgonna end positively, because
he was such a like negative guythe whole time that I thought
his arc was to be like endpositively, got it.

(33:32):
And the fact that he was solike passive and blah to Chloe
is at her and then she gets shotand is dying and he's finally
like oh, I, like, I love you.
We're going to be together andit's like oh, now you have like
feelings that you're showing her.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
She did say in episode two we're going to die
together.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
And they sure did in episode two.
We're going to die together andthey sure did, they sure did,
and so let's talk about guy talk.
What's that?
The guy, the security guard,that?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
shot him so sounded like guys talking.
Let's talk about guy talk.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
How do you say his name?
That's correct, yeah, um firstof all, lisa pissed me off yeah,
what a toxic bitch yeah, she'slike I don't want to date you if
you're not, if you don't have agood job and you're rich and
you are a manly man.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
He's like, so dinner, dinner tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I'll think about it and it's like okay, he wanted.
He was like this job is notright for me and I want to find
a job that I actually like doingand she's like well, then
you're gonna have to start fromthe bottom up and I don't want
to date someone.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
That's a loser at the bottom, the.
The only annoying part is that,like good for him, he got his
bag, he moved his way up, but Iwish that he had left her in the
dust.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
But like is he really going to save this lady?
Like he could barely shoot,Like when he like, needed to,
and did he need to because hisback was to him?
Could he not have just?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
gone up and walking so slowly carrying a body.
Could he carrying a body?
Could he not have just beenlike I'm gonna put you in
handcuffs?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I think it's because the woman was saying kill, shoot
him, shoot him.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, he was like I gotta do this to earn this spot
he gets down on one knee likeyou.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Didn't need to do that either.
He was walking so slow it'svery greek tragedy that yeah,
you know all of that yeah, um,who else?
Oh, what?
What was the incest for?
Like, what, what?

Speaker 1 (35:15):
were they setting up for us?
I think it's just, that's justto be this show.
There's always a.
Is this still recording?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
yes, there's a notification life 360 oh that's
emily's.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Emily.
You know you're listening tothis.
My phone.
Just let me know that you'rehome safe oh, that's so sweet.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Um yeah, it was just to be controversial to get
people to talk yeah, becausethat's what white lotus.
There's always something likethat in each season and the, the
younger brother, just beinglike you know, I looked over and
you looked like you know youwere left out and I just thought
I'd you know, include you, I'ma pleaser, is the crazy line I
just thought I'd like help.

(35:51):
I didn't want you to feel leftout.
It's like okay so nice of you um, okay, I also feel like frank
the friend.
What, what was his storylinelike?
Why was that left open?
or what was the purpose of hiswhole monologue of like I, you

(36:12):
know, slept with all these womenand then I just wanted to
become the woman and he and Idon't know, because the last
shot of him is him like prayingin a buddhist temple yeah, so
it's just like it was justshowing, like the like human
experience of people who,because the last shot of the new
guest staying and they have noidea what just happened and
they're partying and they'rejust like life, just like reset

(36:35):
for all those people and theyhad no idea, like that was a
metaphor, obviously, of whatever.
So, um, was it him a metaphorof?
Just like?
I don't know, people go throughthese like stages and I think
they just wanted to have thatactor in the show and let's give

(36:56):
you this crazy because I don'ttotally know yeah, like because
he he obviously breaks hissobriety and is yeah partying
till the next day and then hegets right back on yeah, so what
?
Yeah?
Why did we need that I?
don't know, I felt like Iobviously haven't seen the other
two seasons To me I wasn'tevery episode I wasn't excited

(37:20):
to watch, Like when I waswatching Paradise.
I couldn't get enough.
I was like I needed to knowwhat happened, I needed to watch
the next episode and I feellike everyone acts like that's
the way they feel with whitelotus it is how I felt the first
two seasons okay, well, I amholding space for the first, at

(37:41):
least the first season.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
He did, mike white did say because they got renewed
, obviously, and he did say thathe's with the fourth season
he's going to try to get awayfrom the waves crashing island
vibes.
So that would be interesting,cause it's been, like it's
always, a beachy scene, I think.
I don't know I really liked thesecond one.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Everyone unanimously likes the first one.
I have mixed reviews on thesecond one from people.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, I go back and forth, but I think there was, it
was way more exciting.
There was just so much morehappening in each episode.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, I there was.
It was way more exciting.
There was just so much morehappening in each episode.
Yeah, I kind of I feel like I'mlanding on.
It was like a 6.8 to me likethis one.
Yeah, the fourth or the thirdyes, because there were
interesting things that I waswatching and I was like whoa and
I was interested in the moment.
But as I scale back from thewhole thing like I was not dying

(38:35):
to watch every episode and Iand I was not keeping my it
wasn't keeping my attentionClearly I miss things that
really explained other thingsbecause I was ended up I finding
was finding myself doing otherthings.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I wish it had just been a four part mini series.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, so I said that to Josh when I was cause he
stopped watching after likeepisode three, and so last night
after I watched it, I gave himthe here's.
Here's the notes of whathappened and, um, I was like I
feel like I wish if it had beenway less episodes.
They would have had to get movealong faster.

(39:12):
And maybe that would have kept100, my interest more I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
You guys let us know what you think so yeah, white
lotus the white lotus.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
How much does it cost to stay at one of them?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
the one that gary was at was like 126 000 a night is
that episode?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
is that season two?
Oh?
You need the house I'm thinkingfour seasons thailand.
It's obviously very expensivenow I wonder what it was before.
I mean, four seasons are it'sexpensive regardless.
But let's say we want to stayin October of this year and

(39:53):
we're going to stay for fourdays.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Is October the off season?
Do we know?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I have no idea.
We're going to have one roomfor two adults.
Okay, it's probably not evenavailable.
The Serenity Pool Villa that isa king you can do a king bed or
you can do two twins is $1,300a night.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
For four seasons.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Okay, bed and breakfast is $1,500.
There is an ocean pool villa is$1,600.
So it keeps going up to if weget Family pool villa feels like
where the family stayed that's2000 a night.
And there's a beach villathat's like.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Honestly family villa 2000 a night if you get like
five friends.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, let me see how many people can stay there.
Um, two adults, four people.
You can do a king bed or twotwins and a roll away or a crib.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Okay.
Well then, I don't think thatwas where the family stayed,
cause that was huge.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yes, I don't know how , maybe I need to keep scrolling
Four bedroom residence.
Maybe that was there we go.
It's 8,500.
Well, okay, advanced purchasethough 20% off, so that's fun
that.
Okay, advanced purchase though20% off.
So that's fun, that's something, okay.
Well, there you go, if you guyswant to stay there.
I saw that they invited somecreators a couple of weeks ago

(41:29):
to go and um stay for like three, four days and they watched
that episode that week and thenthey got to just like be there
for a week and just make somecontent.
I was so jealous Damn out tojust like be there for a week
and just make some content.
I was so jealous, Damn.
Yes, well, speaking of um,content I just saw this headline

(41:53):
, like a couple hours ago, and Iwanted to say it.
So this YouTuber, um, gotarrested for bringing a diet
Coke which should have been aCoke zero offense Number one
right.
So there's this Island that'sum off the coast of India.
I believe that is completelyuntouched by man man.

(42:16):
There is a tribe that livesthere for thousands of years.
They don't leave and they don'tallow people to come there.
If you try to go there, theywill kill you.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Like they'll eat you.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Um, or they'll just kill you.
I don't know if they eat you.
Let me see if I can find whatit's called.
Indian police have arrested a24 year old american youtuber

(42:47):
who visited an off-limits islandin the indian ocean and left an
offering of a diet coke can anda coconut, and attempt to make
contact with an isolated tribeknown for attacking intruders.
You don't want that they eatthem.
Um, it's he.
Restricted territory of NorthSentinel Island, part of India's
Andaman and Nicobar Islands.
It's the Sentinelese tribe iswho lives there and, yeah,

(43:15):
thousands of years, no one goesthere, no one leaves.
They're just like.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
They don't know about Britney Spears.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
No, they don't know anything.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
They're the only, I think, like untouched people
that don't know any moderntechnology.
They literally know nothingthat we know.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
They just like hunt for food.
I'm sure they have their own,you know there's probably a king
or whatever and they just havetheir own way of living and they
have nothing that we know.
But with that comes, like theyare not, they're very
susceptible to disease becausethey don't have immunity like we

(43:59):
do to common germs, so they'reprotected by whatever world
government laws that are like noone can go there basically.
So you're banned from eventraveling within three miles of
the island and they use spearsand bows and arrows to hunt the

(44:23):
animals that roam the small,heavily forested island.
But they have to definitely.
They can't kill all the animals.
They have to leave some to keepyeah, they know yeah, in 2018,
an american missionary wholanded illegally on the beach
was killed by islanders, whoapparently shot him with arrows,
then buried his body on thebeach.
Okay, so here's my question,though what if, um, I'm on a

(44:45):
boat and we something happensand I get shipwrecked and I land
at this island?
Why should I be killed?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
I didn't mean to well , you can't communicate that to
them?
I know so what's the headline?
Oh sorry, he was just arrested,american usual arrested him
indian official indian police,who told them, who said, hey,
just so you know, this guy lefta diet coke on the island yeah,
I think that he was spotted by,so I was arrested on march 31st.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
After two days after he set foot on the restricted
territory part of Indians uh,those islands I said earlier,
the local court last week senthim to a 14 day judicial custody
and he is set to appear againin the court on April 17th.
Charges carry a possiblesentence up to five years in
prison and a fine.
So they're afraid like there'sgerms on the Diet Coke, yeah, if

(45:37):
yeah, indian authorities saidthat, uh, they had informed the
US embassy and police said hewas guided by GPS navigation
during his journey and surveyedthe island with binoculars
before landing.
He stayed on the beach forabout an hour blowing a whistle
to attract attention, but he gotno response.
He later left a can of DietCoke and a coconut as an

(45:59):
offering.
It wasn't even a full can like,so that I thought that he was
leaving it so they could tastethe diet coke and be like what
is?
this magical elixir that dietcoke rude, that is so rude.
Um made a video on his cameraand collected some sand samples
before returning to his boat.
On his return, he was spottedby a local fisherman, who

(46:21):
informed authorities that he wasarrested in Port Blair, the
capital of those islands andarchipelago, nearly 750 miles
East of Indian India's mainland.
So, yeah, this um fishermen sawhim, and I would say too, cause
, like these, people deserve tonot be bothered.
They don't want to be bothered.

(46:41):
They could have probably bythis time built a boat to get
them somewhere else.
So, they clearly don't want toleave.
They don't want to be bothered,so stop trying.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
But I just thought it was annoying that like, of
course it's a YouTuber, ofcourse it's like giving a bad
name to content creators, butobviously it should have been a
Coke Zero.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Right Period.
That's the takeaway Truly.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
And he didn't even let them taste it.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, rude All around .

Speaker 2 (47:12):
But how, how?
What would should hispunishment be if there was a
disease on the can?
And then he like kills allthese people because they get
like the common cold, and I meandeath yeah or he's exiled to
the island.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
He has to just live there.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
He has to live there on his own and has to figure it
out a very castaway yeah wow Ithought that was a crazy
headline it is do you have anycrazy headlines of your own?

Speaker 1 (47:37):
no crazy headlines, except that I sent you a video.
I think firefest is finallygetting like shut down.
Well, there's more and morecontent being made.
This has only been like threedays, I know, but yesterday they
um whatever I sent you ontiktok, but yesterday, where are
they?
Not the cayman islands?
Where are they supposed to be?
Plied el carmen or released anofficial statement that was like

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yeah, no, this isn't happeningyes, I think we did, we not.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
We said that right.
Well, no, they didn, this isn'thappening.
Yes, I think we did, we not?
We said that right.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Well, no, they didn't .
They hadn't said it.
I don't think there was anofficial statement, Was there?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Well, whatever the case, it seems it's official.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
That it's not happening there.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
That's what they said .
Yeah, but has Billy whatever onInstagram.
It goes to fire fest too, orsomething.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Billy McFarland Hate that.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Billy McFarland.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
He posted three days ago Is it the video?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Is it a video of him?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
No, it's a orange graphic.
That said, fire has beenworking directly with the
government, apply del carmen andtheir officials since march 5th
2025 to ensure a safe andsuccessful event.
All media reports andsuggesting our team has not been
working with the government ofpdc are simply inaccurate and
based on misinformation.
Fire has operated as a goodpartner with PDC government and

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has followed the properprocesses and procedures to
lawfully host an event.
We will be sharing all relevantpermits, payments and
communication.
Today we begin with thefollowing, and it's a list of
letters and permit applicationsand whatever.
Okay, and then the graphic is atimeline of those things I just

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can't get over.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Dm me and I'll get you and your friends in, like
what.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Someone said what happened to line up next week.
Next week is over.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, like you went from paying Kendall Jenner to
post on Instagram about firefest one to now you're asking
people to DM you so that you canget them in.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, I can't.
I wish I knew.
Did they say in the documentaryhow much they paid those?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, they did.
And like I don't know if thisis accurate, but the number in
my head is like 250,000.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I would have done it too with that, with no knowledge
.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I'd have been like.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Hey guys, go to this music festival work.
Easiest 250k ever and Iwouldn't feel bad about going
under, because everyone knowslike if you, those girls did not
know anything about what wasgoing to happen.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I feel like that was just at the beginning of people
realizing influencers aren'tactually don't know anything
about what?
They're promoting or rarely do.
I shouldn't say it ever.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
But also he was lying to everyone.
He lied to all the attendees.
So to them, they got a briefthat was like do you want to
promote this, this musicfestival?
They'll probably like we'll get, we'll pay you $250,000.
We'll give you as many ticketsas you want.
Just make an Instagram postLike this is what it's going to
be.
It's going to be so fun.
And to them they know you knowcoachella, they know bonnaroo,
whatever like all these places,like they're good.

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So they're like oh, it's amusic festival.
I've never heard of it, crazy,but I'm sure it's great and then
they posted.
A picture, yeah and then theywere like whatever.
So like I wouldn't have feltbad if I was one of those models
that posted, because there'sobviously no way of knowing that
it was going to be?
Oh no, they don't.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Of course Kendall doesn't know she got the bag.
Good for her.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Anyway, sorry guys, we have talked about this for
the past four episodes, butit'll be over soon.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
It will be over soon, but we have to keep up on it.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
We have to know what's going on, but it seems
that he's just defending himselfnow now.
Great With no um evidence, justa list of claims.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
No, he has no shame and I will give.
That post is just a graphic ofa timeline.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Yeah, I will give him that.
He has no shame.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Oh, no, oh, billy McFarland.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Oh, Billy.
So you guys, we are going tostart implementing a new segment
in our episodes called theA-list.
What's on your a-list where weare just going to tell you.
I know that we already kind oftalk about like shows we're
watching, but this isn't goingto encompass really anything in
culture that we or notnecessarily no, not necessarily

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like it.
It could include a show, itcould include a food item.
It could include a food item,it could be a makeup item, it
could be clothing, it could be abrand, it could be a person, it
could be whatever.
But we're just going to tellyou, like this week, like what
is on our a-list, what are weexcited about, what do we
recommend, what do we just like,want to tell you about, um, and
so that's a new thing thatwe're going to start doing.

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So get ready, and I guess Iwill start.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah, what's on your list?

Speaker 2 (52:22):
This is a show, but I haven't talked about it yet,
and it's that I started watchingTed Lasso.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Okay.
So when we went to the mall,you were saying something to
Josh about it.
I meant to ask you what youwere talking about.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
I was like why are?

Speaker 1 (52:32):
you just now on Ted Lasso.
It just ended.
I know I got renewed.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I know I well.
I only had Apple TV for a shortperiod of time and all I
watched when it was free, andall I watched was Emily
Dickinson or Dickinson.
Oh, okay, I watched one showand that was it, and I don't
even think I finished it, but Iloved that show.
Um so the.
And then I just let it gobecause I wasn't watching
anything.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
So I just let it expire.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
So then I didn't have Apple TV when Ted Lasso was
like actually on.
Have apple tv when ted lassowas like actually on, yeah, yeah
, and I knew that everyone lovedit, but I, I didn't feel
compelled to pay for apple tv,uh, to do it.
So, now that a new season iscoming out.
I was talking to josh and hewas like it's the, the best show
that's ever been made.

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So, sister brother-in-law'sfavorite show yeah, so I started
watching it and I am like sixepisodes in and I have had my
first cry.
Okay, yeah, it is a great show,it's very sweet.
I thought I think that maybewhen I did have apple tv, I
might have tried to watch thefirst episode, and I didn't get
it.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I was confused.
The first episode also didn'tget.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
It was like yeah, I'm good but now I do get it and it
is like a very good feel-goodshow and honestly you should
probably watch now that you'reso into sports it's actually
really not about the sport okayyou know, yeah, it is like it's
very endearing and cute and I Iagree with everyone okay so I'm

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excited about that.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
And I know everyone who's watching has probably also
watched it.
But if there's a handful ofpeople who didn't watch it, I
say get that Apple TVsubscription.
Get your free seven-day trialand binge watch it.
And then let me know, all right, do you have anything?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Well, what's on my list this week?

Speaker 2 (54:27):
is.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Los Angeles.
I've had this like well, I hada.
Hey, everyone did.
You know I had a rough yearlast year.
Yes is the answer.
You do know that I, over thelast week, have kind of been
like stepping back and lookingat my city and I'm just like,
yeah, I know why.
I live here, like I totally.
There's a reason why I love ithere so much and I'm um really

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seeing that over the last week,between just the weather, we had
like really amazing weather,then we had thunderstorms, you
guys, it's like thunder andlightning in north hollywood, I
opened up all my windows.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
it was great, great I was like what is this?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
And then it broke and then it was beautiful again.
I was just like, yeah, this islike.
All of these opportunities Ihave are because of the city I
live in.
All of like my closestfriendships are minus.
Megan and Heather um are herein LA.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
But they happened here, so like it is like a
testament to you being in thesame.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Oh sorry, not Heather , but yeah.
Happened and I was just likeyeah, la, you kind of are the
shit and you're expensive andchallenging at times, but I
really get it.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah, you're having a renaissance.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
A renaissance.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Coming up on my 15th year here.
Whoa, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
That is pretty crazy.
You've lived here, no, youalmost have lived here Longer
than you lived in Indiana Inthree years.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Five.
I didn't move out here Until Iwas 20.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Oh right, for some reason I think it's 18.
No, but that would be crazywhen I hit that 20 year mark.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
That's like crazy.
Yeah, I lived in LA, losAngeles, as long as I lived in
Indiana.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Do you do you see yourself always being in LA
proper, or do you feel likeyou're going to move to like
Palm Springs or?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
San Barbara or San Diego, I think I'll always have
a place in LA.
I don't know if it'll be myhome, but it's like if I leave
here it's because I have a homehere but then also another home
somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, what part of town ideally would you want to
have a home in?

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I don't, I don't know , taluka lake maybe love to.
I'm just a valley rat and I'mokay with that yeah, I just love
the valley.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I don't that's why that brand a kid from the valley
is, I found out.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Like that's right I just don't like.
The beaches are great and allthat.
It's just like the thing aboutla.
That is the worst really is theparking and the traffic.
It is the worst part of thecity in my opinion and when you
get to those places, unless youhave like a designated parking
area like yeah.
It's just a nightmare, and Idon't want to live somewhere or
have my home be somewhere thatit's always going to take 40

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minutes plus to get to.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, I will say that I.
The weather is like so muchbetter near the beach sure yeah,
you get more mild weather.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
I really hate the summer in the valley, like I
really really hate you and Emilyboth yeah, so I could see
myself living my argument toboth of you and my friend Lauren
also made this argument toEmily is that it's the set If
you have central air, though.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah, but it's still like walking outside and like
immediately being when it's 115degrees.
Like walking outside is stillnot fun, so do I stay inside the
whole day, even though I havecentral air?
Sure.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
But also I love the desert Like I love Palm Springs
in the dead of summer no,literally no.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
So it's like it's for me.
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I would be.
I think that I would enjoyliving near the beach because I,
when I've gone on Saturdays towatch Josh play football and
it's like I'm on the beach andit's sunny, but it's like 70 and
sunny.
Oh my gosh, it's so nice.
It is nice, I agree.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
And it's like, um, if you lived there, I feel like,
yes, the parking is annoying,but you, you definitely would
have a spot.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
I would, but I care more about like when people
visit, like my last place was inthe Valley and parking was
annoying.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
And then valley and parking was annoying.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah, and then now I live in a place where parking is
so easy and it's for somereason, it's such a stress
reliever to me to know that,yeah, I don't have to explain
the parking situation, just park.
Yeah, that's true, I just Ithink like the walkability of
yourself yeah there's so manythings to walk to is fun for
it's like it would be fun for me, so I feel like I could.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I, long term, would want to live not in the valley I
will say, when I get coin and Ilike looking for that, I won't
do what like a lot ofcelebrities are like going to
bella thorne's house, I was justlike I would never you have to
go down so many unkempt roadsand back ways and there's no
cell service and what we justlearned with the fires is that
it's yeah you're gonna die yeah,exactly, it's just like this.

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Is nice you're in a secludedplace 30 minutes to get to a
grocery store.
Like at what cost yeah I guess,though, when you're bellathorn
status, you kind of just want toprobably get away from
everything that's true.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yeah, I don't know that I would really want to live
in the hollywood hills orwhatever, unless I was closer to
the bottom yeah, yeah becausegoing all the way up, yeah, the
view is incredible, like youjust said, but it is annoying so
very.
If I did it would be it would becloser to the bottom, like I
have friends that live in thevalley, but um, um, like on on

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the hill yeah but on this side,yeah, and it's it's pretty close
to the bottom and just liketucked in to the mountain and
it's very like lots of trees andthat is pretty.
To me that would be cute,that's nice.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
But yeah, so la, that's on my a-list nice.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Um, I had the alvin ailey dance company in this,
just because I feel like youknow, if you want to see a
really great dance show, youwant to.
If you want to see a reallygreat dance show, you want to
learn something, you want to seea different style of dance.
Because here's the thing is, weall just see TikTok dances
right now and I feel like weneed a little more culture in

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our lives.
So go look up the Alvin AileyDance Company and watch whatever
video you can find, andremember that there's people who
dance professionally and don'tdo tiktok dances, because even
me, I you do tiktok dances I dotiktok dances and I do like
dance fitness, which is a thingand it's my job and I love it,

(01:00:36):
but like it is, like it was sonice to just like have a
cultural reset and be like oh,there's more out there than
TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
And that was really nice for me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
That's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
And my last one I'll let you say whatever you have
left is One Size Settings Bray.
They sent it to me a few weeksago and I've been using it and
it truly does just you know.
Lock it in.
Wait, what is it called OneSize?
It's the YouTuber really doesjust you know lock it in and
wait.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
What is it called?
One size, it's um the one she'syoutuber, it's um the one she
used on me and my thing was Ididn't like it.
It was one that's reallypopular though all night or
something oh, urban decay that'swhat it's called all nighter
all nighter.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't like itwhy was it too, I think I was

(01:01:23):
having a reaction to it, to behonest patrick star oh I don't
know why I okay could not um notmy future boyfriend patrick ta
some.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Sometimes I do get the the brands confused.
But yes, the youtuber, patrickstar, started this makeup
company.
One size um, really greatprimer too.
It's like a um.
You get a little in your handand you like kind of warm it up
before you put it on, and thenit's very like sticky and I
don't know, it's really nice,but the setting spray is,

(01:01:55):
honestly, it smells likehairspray.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
So okay, you know but you know it's gonna work.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Then the drag queens are probably all using it
because it is giving hairsprayand I know that people have done
that before to set their makeup.
So highly recommend you guysshould use it If you love it use
it.
Uh, do you have anything else?

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Well, no, I.
I only came up with one cause Ithought it was just like what's
our a list of the week?
So my bad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Oh well, we can, it can evolve, it can be whatever
you want you guys, you give ussome feedback.
Do you like one singular thing?
As you know, our a list of theweek, or however many we have,
if we have multiple we won't.
We'll try not to have like amillion, but if there's a couple
, do you guys like that?
Let us know what you think, andit can evolve, but I do think

(01:02:38):
that the segment is a fun littleaddition.
It is, it can evolve, but I dothink that the segment is a fun
little addition.
It is um, and today's april14th, so our birthdays today are
not that many, okay, uh, firstis the queen, sarah michelle
geller queen she's 48 years oldlove adrian brody is 52 okay,
stop you dream, brody, get offthe stage.

(01:03:00):
Abigail Breslin is 29.
She just got married right Likenot that long ago.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Oh, I didn't know, I didn't know she got married.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I think so Okay, um, and then the musical artist
Debrat is 51 and I put that.
I put her in because I was likeoh my God, I haven't thought
about her, and so long but honeyyes, it's quintessential early,
two thousands artists like love, yeah, and then, in terms of,
in terms of entertainment, themovie 17 again.

(01:03:31):
Stanley is choking, are youokay?
Um, the movie 17 againpremiered in 2009, which is such
a good movie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
It is loved it.
Loved it.
Rip Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
That's all I got for you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Well, that was great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Another one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Thank you guys for watching or listening.
We really appreciate it.
And don't forget to leave us aspeak pipe, leave us a review,
follow us on whatever placeyou're listening or watching,
and we will see you in the nextone have a great week everyone
bye the a-list.