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We unpack the rush and recoil of a haunted house clip going viral, and how to build real boundaries when the comments flood in. Production BTS and pop culture detours keep it bright as we press for consent, safety, and sanity online.

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Allison Florea

Alex Hinsky

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Are these jeans new or old?

SPEAKER_02 (00:02):
Um not new.
I don't remember the last time Ibought new things like this.

SPEAKER_01 (00:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (00:06):
Because jeans are the worst.

SPEAKER_01 (00:08):
Yeah.
I feel like uh I feel like I'vehad jeans like that.
Like that wash and are theystretchy?

SPEAKER_02 (00:15):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (00:15):
Yeah, I feel like they look like a pair of jeans
that I've had.

SPEAKER_02 (00:18):
I think they're probably from ASOS or something.

SPEAKER_01 (00:20):
ASOS?
ASOS.

SPEAKER_02 (00:22):
I don't like ASOS.

SPEAKER_01 (00:24):
I think the the British I think that the British
YouTubers I follow say ASOS.

SPEAKER_02 (00:31):
My old Australian friend pronounced Adidas Adidas.

SPEAKER_01 (00:35):
Adidas, yeah.
I think they do in the UK too.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (00:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
Yeah.
Well, hello.
Hi.
How's it going?

SPEAKER_02 (00:43):
Good.
Your boy went viral.

SPEAKER_01 (00:45):
You did?

SPEAKER_02 (00:46):
Yes.
20 million.

SPEAKER_01 (00:47):
For which?

SPEAKER_02 (00:48):
For Game Trying Haunted House on TikTok.
The trailer you guys No, the thelike clip of us getting
suffocated.

unknown (00:56):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 (00:57):
20 million on TikTok, 2 million on Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 (00:59):
Love.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00):
Got a bunch of followers, got L A D Bible to
reach out, they're gonna repostit.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04):
Nice.
I think it's Lad Bible.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07):
But it's L dot A dot D dot, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 (01:10):
I don't know.
I thought I've always thought itwas Lad Bible.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14):
Lad Bible?

SPEAKER_01 (01:15):
Yeah, it's like boys, it's a boys thing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
It's a boys thing?

unknown (01:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20):
All I know is I see their videos that they repost
and they're gonna Well theirthing says.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
I mean, I guess it doesn't say how to pronounce it,
but I just thought it was LadBible.
But I think it's because news,entertainment, UK news, US news
Bible.
Like yeah, like a lad.

SPEAKER_02 (01:36):
It's British, like a lad.
Yeah.
Lad Bible.

SPEAKER_01 (01:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39):
Well, thanks, LAD Lad Bible.

SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
That's cool.
I didn't I watched that, but Ididn't see the amount of it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:45):
It happened overnight.
We went to bed, it wasn'tperforming super well.
We woke up and it was at twomillion overnight.
And let's just say that specificpart of the haunted house has
attracted a lot of eroticasphyxiation fans.

SPEAKER_01 (02:02):
Okay, well, I want to talk about that, but let's do
the intro and then get into it.
Welcome back to the A-listpodcast with Allison and Alex.
I'm Alison.

(02:23):
He's Alex.

SPEAKER_02 (02:24):
Hey guys.

SPEAKER_01 (02:24):
Hey, I just felt like we would go on for too long
if we didn't really um introductintroduct.
Introduced.

SPEAKER_02 (02:31):
Right.
Get into the intro.
Stay a prayer for Dylan.
He is dealing with his first Imean, this is his first round of
ever dealing with any kind ofinternet notoriety.
And it's tough.
It's bad.
And it's wild how like I'vealways known this, but it's like
I'm getting no comments.
Like people are not referencingme at all.

(02:52):
They are dragging the fuck outof him in a way that is really
upsetting.
I'm getting a tough one.
Should I reach out?
Yeah, I mean, you are aninternet personality who deals
with this shit.

SPEAKER_00 (03:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (03:01):
Um, he's very sick today.
So he's because I was gonna tryto have him be on, but we'll do
it, we'll try it when he's notsick, because we we do not want
to get sick.

SPEAKER_01 (03:08):
No.

SPEAKER_02 (03:09):
Um I'm getting a lot of followers from him.
I'm like, I've gained like 500followers on Instagram.
He's gained six.
So he gets all the hate.
People are commenting the mostabout him.
No one's saying shit about me,but they're on the back end
following you.

SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
Yeah.
The internet is here, though.

SPEAKER_02 (03:28):
I will say some of my favorite, a couple of my
favorite comments.
One of them was um, what do wehave here?
Twinkie and hoho, two of myfavorite snacks.

SPEAKER_01 (03:37):
I like that one.
You guys could be that forHalloween.

SPEAKER_02 (03:40):
But the the amount of pictures, gifts, emojis of a
honey-baked ham in saran wrap,just referencing Dylan is
mind-blowing.

SPEAKER_01 (03:54):
Well, just to make him feel better if he's
listening to this, I just saw acomment today of someone saying
uh something uh I posted on uh aYouTube short, I think, and
Caleb was kind of in front of mea little bit, and someone said,
Oh, stop covering Allison.
And someone said, That's thestupidest take I've ever heard
on the internet.

(04:14):
She should be covered more.

SPEAKER_02 (04:16):
People suck.

SPEAKER_01 (04:17):
So also though, tell him I feel for him, and if he
needs to reach out or if heneeds any advice.
I don't have any other than I'msure he'll want to talk about it
on the pod because it's not.
It's gonna keep happening, andit's not ever fun.

SPEAKER_02 (04:28):
He is freaking out.
Like the obviously the goal wasto like go viral.
We are now like one of the topperforming videos at the company
right now.
But he was like, I genuinelywasn't panicked until we went
viral, and then I was like, Ohmy god, this sucks.
There's a lot of in a lot ofways it sucks.
And I'm like, sure, it suredoes.

SPEAKER_01 (04:46):
But like he has so I'm not very good at this.
I am good to an extent, and it'sjust you can't look at the
comments, and he will just andespecially because of BuzzFeed,
you maybe can have someone onthe team, or I guess you go
through and like and comment orwhatever to engage, but it can
just be his conscious effort tonot look.

SPEAKER_02 (05:08):
That just won't happen because he's the head of
marketing, like he's going toalways be in there.
And I said this is because Isaid this to him.
I was like, try to avoidcomments.
He's like, I'm not gonna do thatbecause he just knows himself.

SPEAKER_01 (05:18):
Yeah, I mean every once in a while.
I just replied to someone alsotoday to something.
I think it was actually not evenabout me, it was about Caleb.
Oh, someone comments uhcommented on one of my again
YouTube shorts, yeah, and said,I identify him as a woman, and
there and and so I hate this.
Or like some alluding to theyHe's feminine and I don't want

(05:39):
to look at that.
Yes, the way they said it wascrazy.
Like, I identify him as a woman,even though Caleb doesn't
identify himself as a woman,obviously.
Um, and so therefore this videosucks, basically, or this all of
this is unwatchable, basically.
And I was like, then like youcan't identify him as a woman
because he doesn't identify.

(05:59):
I said I so I was like, identifyyourself and like get the fuck
out, basically.
Yeah, people are wild, and it'snever gonna stop.
I I'm pretty good to an extent,and then there'll be one day
that I look and then I spiraland have a breakdown.

SPEAKER_00 (06:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (06:16):
So I do encourage him to try at least try to go as
long as he can.

SPEAKER_00 (06:21):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
And then also um get on a mood enhancer.

SPEAKER_02 (06:26):
I think he is on that and he is in therapy, so
that's good.
It's just like we were justtalking last night how it's just
so interesting that likeobviously what's happening is
the goal, and then something sogood comes with so much bad.
Like to watch the it'sinteresting too, like so clearly
more conservative people onInstagram than on TikTok.

SPEAKER_01 (06:49):
Oh yeah, Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 (06:50):
Yeah, because the comments are somewhere around
like Instagram's comments arelike, um, I would never do the
go to this haunted house.
Like, are you kidding?
Why would you pay money to dothis?
That kind of thing.
And then and then things thatare like, we should tie up all
the libs in there and leave iton for 10 minutes.
It's like you literally justsaid we would kill people for

(07:12):
their political abuse.
Yeah.
Um, and then of course, like allthe references.
A lot of people think thatDylan's an actual girl because
he's not talking in that clipand he's in full drag.
The comments when people argueabout whether or not he's a
girl, those are funny.
Like he and I are looking atthose, and it's like, these
people like really listen, I'mgonna say this, and this is not

(07:33):
I don't mean this as an insultto anyone specifically, but you
really do realize how really outof touch most people are when
you read the comments section ofthe video.
Like, I would never comment onanything that gave me a reaction
without seeing the context.
Does this person post about thiskind of thing a lot?
What are they actually talkingabout?
Oh, now I understand.

(07:53):
Now I'm gonna comment.
The amount of people thatcomment things without thinking
or looking, it's like Well, I'venever commented on a video that
I didn't like ever.
Oh, like you don't I never madecomment either.

SPEAKER_01 (08:05):
I've responded when someone has left me a hate
comment, but I have never seen avideo and been like
unsubscribed.
Yeah, like I have watched avideo before and been like, I
hate what this person is saying.
Like what they're saying ishateful or whatever.
But I've never commented that.
I've said it in my brain andI've kept scrolling.
I've maybe blocked them or saidI don't want to see this content

(08:26):
anymore or something like that.
But I don't know what it is.
It's a narcissistic, I'm on theinternet, and you have to have a
I mean, you are too.
We have to have a little bit ofnarcissism in our body.
That's part of it.
To want to be on the internet,want to be famous, quote, want
to be performers, like whateverit is.

(08:46):
Like, you have to have a littlebit of narcissism in your body
to like want to do that, I go, Iguess, and to like be okay with
putting yourself out there thatway.
But like, I think it's anarcissistic need for to be
heard.
And I don't knowpsychologically, I think we
talked about that with thepeople commenting, oh, what was

(09:09):
it, a few weeks ago when we weretalking about oh, the people
that comment commented on thebean soup.
The bean soup.

SPEAKER_02 (09:16):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (09:17):
But what can I use something, but except for beans.
Yeah, like you just commentedthis so that people could see
your engage, your comment there,and that someone would respond
to you.
So, like people commenting onvideos hate comments.
It is something psychologicalthat I don't understand.
It's the need to hurt someone,it's and feel some type of

(09:43):
feeling in your body that youknow, like, oh, I got them by
saying that.
I don't, I wish that I couldsomeone I need a study done.
I'm sure there have probably hasbeen.

SPEAKER_00 (09:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (09:53):
If you know about it, send it to me because I
really am so interested in I'veonly ever commented good things.

SPEAKER_02 (10:00):
Yeah, same.

SPEAKER_01 (10:01):
Congratulations, love this, ha ha, things like
that.
I feel compelled to commentbecause it is a positive right.
Everyone feels positive in thatscenario.

SPEAKER_00 (10:13):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (10:14):
But there's a the other side is you know you're
hurting someone.
And it's it is true, like thepeople who are doing that hate
themselves for whatever reason.
So the people that arecommenting about your guys'
sexuality, they're probablysorry, uh closeted person that
hates themselves and wants tohurt you.

(10:35):
Yeah.
And I feel sorry for them, butit's I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (10:41):
Like it's it's psychologically, it's it's like
a whole, there's there could bea whole study on that shit.
Cause the way that people thebravery behind your phone and
keyboard is yeah, wild.

SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
And I'll let them know that it's not gonna end.
It might get better at somepoints or it might go through
lulls.

SPEAKER_02 (11:02):
Yeah.
Well, we're also still findingour audience, like our fan base
will start to find itself.

SPEAKER_01 (11:07):
Yeah, I do think Buzzfeed, you're always gonna
have randos.

SPEAKER_02 (11:11):
Always, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (11:12):
Because I mean, obviously, we always you we also
have randos when we postsomething because when someone
shares it that is your follower,but then it gets to people who
are just following that person,they don't know us.
So it's always gonna get torandos.

SPEAKER_02 (11:27):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
Because and especially I think because
Buzzfeed is so well known.
It's not, I think sometimes weget the fitness marshal gets a
pretty niche.

SPEAKER_02 (11:38):
Oh, right, yeah, following.

SPEAKER_01 (11:40):
And and sometimes we can nestle in there for a while,
and then every once in a whilesomething will hit the other
side of the internet.
I think Haley gets that a lot.
Like she hits the other side ofthe internet a lot.

SPEAKER_02 (11:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
And men love to just like say things, you know.

SPEAKER_02 (11:58):
Men love to say things.

SPEAKER_01 (11:59):
Men love to say things.
But anyway, watched the video,had a great time.
Thank you.
Will never go there myself.
For the sole fact of the spidersand the cockroach.

SPEAKER_02 (12:10):
I will also say watching it again too.
It's like I maybe would havebeen more scared if I was
actually going through withoutfull production lighting.
Yeah.
Because I was like, oh, thatalso definitely played into me
be like I could see everything.
And normally those rooms arevery dark.

SPEAKER_00 (12:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (12:25):
Um, but we I mean, we are getting their page a lot
of traction right now.

SPEAKER_01 (12:31):
I will say that you telling me about it last week
made it sound scarier and moreintense than I think the video
or the editing of the videoportrays.
Like it does come across lessscary and more fun and chaotic.
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (12:49):
But it yeah, and I I think that's what I mean is I
was I was like, this is verymuch brighter than the actual
experience you have.
We had a guide as well.
Like they're not, you never seethem.

SPEAKER_00 (12:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (12:59):
But they were they were here's some BTS.
They were coming up to us beforewe would go into each room to
say what was about to happen sothat the camera crew could
prepare.
And only like two rooms did Jilland I not hear.

SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (13:11):
Like the spinning room of all rooms to not give us
a heads up, we have cameraequipment.

SPEAKER_01 (13:16):
Yeah, that was pretty good.
I don't think they thought aboutthat.

unknown (13:18):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (13:19):
Because you price probably had bigger cameras than
I think maybe other people wholike vloggers.

SPEAKER_02 (13:25):
Vloggers, yeah.
We did.
We had two big rigs, butwhatever the case, it's
performing very well.

SPEAKER_01 (13:32):
And did sorry, Dylan was said mercy.
Did they honor that?
Because it sounded like theydidn't.
And I think that that is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
Well, he said mercy.
Wait, which time like in thesuffocation room?

SPEAKER_01 (13:46):
I don't know.
I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02 (13:47):
There is a part of the video where he's screaming
mercy where when they're tryingto actively get us out of the
room.

SPEAKER_00 (13:55):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (13:55):
So I think it could have, but yes, he was screaming
mercy in the suffocation room.
But like they the thing that'sit was like it's like 27 shop
vax sucking the air out of theycouldn't hear.
That's so loud.

SPEAKER_01 (14:07):
Yeah.
That is honestly the least of mylike that one to me, I would be
like I would do that.

SPEAKER_02 (14:13):
Yeah, because that was the other thing.
The arguments, and I have topause and say give a shout out
to Angela real quick.

SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
Is she in the is she a warrior for you right now?

SPEAKER_02 (14:21):
No, Angela commented on Instagram something like, Why
would you do this?
And people are replying to her.
Oh, I'm sure she loves.
And she is replying back.
The first reply, the first girl.
Um, because sometimes peoplewant to feel something.
And Angela goes, dot dot dot,thanks.
I didn't understand that.
And then someone else commentedand she was like, Cool.

(14:42):
It's like, okay, yeah, becausethat is Yeah, like that is
there.

SPEAKER_01 (14:49):
Yeah.

unknown (14:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
And they don't know that she knows you and that you
know how she's saying that.

SPEAKER_02 (14:54):
This is where I this is where I I double down on.
I do not comment on anything.
Like, yeah, let's say I was acommenter, which I'm not, and I
saw someone comment on a viralvideo like that, saying
something like, Well, Angelasaid, Why would you do that?
I would click on the person, seeif they follow the account that

(15:16):
they commented on.

SPEAKER_00 (15:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (15:17):
And if they do, I mean immediately if I cared
enough to even do that, that'sthe step I would do.

SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (15:22):
Oh, she follows this guy, they know each other.

SPEAKER_01 (15:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And because you can't hear tonethrough it, like she the way she
said that, like, as a friend,you can hear the tone in which
she said it.
And which also she's uh justwent through.
I don't I won't say it rightnow, but I'm gonna get
permission maybe for next weekto tell the story that Angela is

(15:46):
um just had a funny story with arealtor or something like that.
Oh, and I want to tell it, butI'll ask her and maybe funny,
put a pin in it.
It's random, but yeah, I don'tknow.
Though those were my takeawaysthat it sounded scarier of you

(16:07):
telling me what happened thanthe edit actually looked.
I can't believe that Dylan leftthat cockroach in his pocket.

SPEAKER_02 (16:15):
Well, he didn't.

SPEAKER_01 (16:16):
Oh, okay.
I thought you said that it wasin the pocket when you guys went
outside.

SPEAKER_02 (16:20):
We out of that room.

SPEAKER_01 (16:21):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 (16:22):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (16:22):
Oh, I thought you meant like actually to the car.

SPEAKER_02 (16:24):
No, out of that room.
Because by the way, thesecockroaches are hand painted
with glow in the dark paint.

SPEAKER_01 (16:30):
No, I literally would have been screaming,
crying, throwing up, do nottouch me with that.
Mercy, I swear to God, if youtouch me with that cockroach, I
will actually punch you in theface.

SPEAKER_02 (16:41):
Worse than Tarantch?

SPEAKER_01 (16:42):
No, both.
No, both.
I would be like, Mercy, I'm notkidding.
This isn't a joke.
Do not touch me with thosethings.
I could do everything else.

SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
I mean, I had a mercy necklace on and they still
with the cockroaches.

SPEAKER_01 (16:55):
That's not okay.

SPEAKER_02 (16:56):
Well, I know.
I know.

SPEAKER_01 (16:57):
I told I don't know if I told you in real life, but
I don't know if I told thevideo.
Um, there was a group ofvloggers that also went to do
that.
They didn't even make it in todo it because before they could
even sign the waivers, someonecame up behind them and tased
them like actually in theirbutthole before they signed the

(17:20):
waiver.
And they were like, We're notdoing this because they were
going like I think before itopened.

SPEAKER_00 (17:27):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (17:27):
And like going through it as a regular patron,
but it was, I think, like thehour before they opened.
And the people, I think,partially when they know it's
being filmed, they're they turnit up, turning it up, and
they're not doing maybe whatthey would do to a normal
patron.

SPEAKER_00 (17:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (17:45):
But yeah, literally the guy fell to the floor and
he's like, I'm not doing this.
Like, you guys just actuallyviolated me.
Like, that was crazy.
Yeah.
Not even like, you know, thehip, like the butt cheek.
No, he was like, it was actuallybutt crack, like in the middle.

SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
I got teased in the ass as well, though.

SPEAKER_01 (18:04):
What is it with them?

SPEAKER_02 (18:06):
Well, mine they couldn't have seen me because I
went down a hallway where theywere sticking their hands out of
like holes in the wall, and Iwas just like happened to be
like jump dancing through thathallway, and they got me right
in the tush.

SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
I would do a bunch of things, but like it just
doesn't it doesn't sound fun tome that they don't listen, they
don't take right.
That part is the mercy partseriously.
That's not fun to me then.

SPEAKER_02 (18:30):
And that what they didn't do to us, but we found
out after, by the way, thesuffocation room leaning against
that electrocutes you as well.
But they didn't turn that on forus.

SPEAKER_01 (18:40):
It's only 10 seconds, so like 12.
12.
That one doesn't bother me.

SPEAKER_02 (18:45):
And like everyone's like, what if it malfunctions?
But like it's just plastic.
Like if it malfunctioned, theyjust cut it.

SPEAKER_01 (18:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
Like I wasn't I was worried because Dylan started to
freak out, and so then I freakedout.
I was like, what if this manpasses out?
What if you're gonna do it?

SPEAKER_01 (18:59):
But then you would just pass out.
Well, that, but it's not longenough to like actually die.

SPEAKER_02 (19:05):
Yeah.
And there was a couple rooms wedidn't show just for can you
tell me after?
They're just like no, I can sayit.
One of the rooms was like weactually like you, they handed
us guns and we like obliteratedthese like clowns.
You shoot these clowns.

SPEAKER_00 (19:21):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 (19:22):
And if you don't hit the clown, then then the gun is
like attached to a thing and youget electrocuted.
It's like shoot them or getelectrocuted.
And it was just decided to likenot include that because it was
just a little bit like yeah,random.
Also, the rumor, like the windtunnel, the funniest room in the
whole thing.
So she told us that so that'sthat system is like four jet um

(19:42):
propellers, and only one wasoperational.
Can you imagine if the otherthree she's like, yeah, normally
you're literally like flying upin the air.
And you if you watch it, you cansee the the actor is flying up
in the air.

SPEAKER_01 (19:54):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 (19:54):
But imagine three more fans at that.

SPEAKER_01 (19:57):
No, I think that that would give me anxiety in
like a overstimulated.

SPEAKER_02 (20:03):
Yeah, my skirt was flying.

SPEAKER_01 (20:05):
Cute.
Were you wearing shorts?

SPEAKER_02 (20:07):
I was not, I was wearing briefs underneath.

SPEAKER_01 (20:09):
Cute.

SPEAKER_02 (20:09):
I was gonna do a jock strap, and then I was like,
I'll be a little moreappropriate.

SPEAKER_01 (20:13):
Give him a show.
Well, congrats.
What when does the next one comeout?

SPEAKER_02 (20:18):
So the newest episode came out on this past
Friday, you guys, and it'scalled I don't know what the
title of the video is becausethey they A B test everything,
but it's us fishing.
So gay and trying fishing isfine with the video.

SPEAKER_01 (20:30):
Wait, I thought that was the finale.
You moved it again?

SPEAKER_02 (20:33):
It got moved yesterday um because they
realized the matchmaking videohas too many con too many pieces
that it's gonna take long in theedit.
And it ended up coming togetherin a very nice way that it will
make a good finale.
And our editor was likestressed.
So they're like, okay, let'sjust do phishing because it's

(20:53):
only got two more edits to do.

SPEAKER_01 (20:55):
Is there one in between?
So it goes fishing and thenmatchmaking.

SPEAKER_02 (20:59):
Matchmaking, yeah.
And then we're switching to ashort form show.
We're basically gonna keep doinggay and trying, but then it's
gonna be short form.

SPEAKER_01 (21:09):
Um like a video a week, but we're just gonna stuff
that's in-house, like sort oflike the first one.

SPEAKER_02 (21:17):
Yes, even easier.
But then Dylan leaves for sixweeks to Asia, so we'll get a
nice I'll get a nice break.
Thank God.
I'm so tired.
But um gay and trying fishing,and it has a really funny
ending, so go check it out, youguys.

SPEAKER_01 (21:33):
I'm excited.
I finished my book, The CinnamonBun Bookstore.
Finally.

SPEAKER_02 (21:40):
This book has a three-episode arc in our show.

SPEAKER_01 (21:44):
And I gave it two stars, it sucked.

SPEAKER_02 (21:46):
I'm sorry, you actually gave it a rating?

SPEAKER_01 (21:48):
Oh, on Goodreads.

SPEAKER_02 (21:49):
So you don't do hate comments, but you will give a
bad rating.

SPEAKER_01 (21:51):
Wait, do you not use goodreads?
You don't read really.

SPEAKER_02 (21:53):
I don't read, I listen.

SPEAKER_01 (21:54):
Goodreads is an app for book readers.

SPEAKER_02 (21:57):
Oh, it's just like a it's like giving uh like a
review on a product on Amazon.
It's so people know.

SPEAKER_01 (22:02):
Yeah, so people can follow me on there if you want.
I'm not is it one book, thisseries, or was it like No,
there's like six books out rightnow.

SPEAKER_02 (22:10):
Are they all connected?

SPEAKER_01 (22:11):
Mm-hmm.
And it's called the So the firstone was Pumpkin Spice Latte
Cafe.
The Pumpkin Spice Cafe.

SPEAKER_02 (22:18):
And you read only that one?

SPEAKER_01 (22:19):
The series is called Dream Harbor.

SPEAKER_02 (22:21):
And you've read only one?

SPEAKER_01 (22:22):
No, I've read two now.
I read the Pumpkin Spice Cafeand the Cinnamon Bun Bookstore.

SPEAKER_02 (22:27):
Oh, Cinnamon Bun Bookstore, right?

SPEAKER_01 (22:28):
Yes.
This is what the Hello?

SPEAKER_02 (22:33):
Can you please read me the other titles?
I just gotta know.
I was this written by AI, do youthink?

SPEAKER_01 (22:38):
Well, the girl has a face, Lori Gilmore.

SPEAKER_02 (22:41):
Is it a real face?

SPEAKER_01 (22:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
I'm sorry.
Lori Gilmore.

SPEAKER_01 (22:45):
We've already talked about this.

SPEAKER_02 (22:46):
But did we talk about how Lori sounds a lot like
Rory?

SPEAKER_01 (22:49):
And Lorelei.
I think she put I think it's apseudonym.
I think she put them togetherbecause she's clearly a fan of.

SPEAKER_02 (22:55):
Is she AI?

SPEAKER_01 (22:56):
No, I think she just like made a pseudonym because
she she all these books are veryGilmore girls called it.
Gilmore Girls coded.

SPEAKER_02 (23:05):
And I need to hear the other titles.

SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
Oh, let me tell you.

SPEAKER_02 (23:10):
Did you finish over the weekend, by the way?

SPEAKER_01 (23:13):
No, I finished it not last night, but the night
before.
Um Monday.

SPEAKER_02 (23:18):
Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 (23:19):
Sunday.
Oh yeah, Sunday.
Okay.
The next one is The ChristmasTree Farm.

SPEAKER_02 (23:24):
I mean, you should read it.

SPEAKER_01 (23:24):
I'm gonna read that in December.
I need a break because this onewas pretty bad.

SPEAKER_02 (23:29):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (23:30):
And it made me feel stupid.
Although, like, there was somesmut.
There was you know, it was itcame together in the end.
Honestly, it ended on a an upswing of like, okay, the romance
came together.
It was a cute little ending.

SPEAKER_00 (23:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:48):
In the middle, it was going back and forth.
Like the short, the short of itis there's this girl, she's
about to turn 30.
She's very like grandma-esque.
Like, she doesn't do anything,she doesn't go out, she's so
boring.
And she before she turned 30,she wanted like an adventurous
summer.
She wanted to like do things shewould never do.

(24:11):
And she recruits.

SPEAKER_00 (24:13):
Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 (24:14):
She recruits this guy who's a like the fisherman
of the town.
And he has always flirted withher.
And so she recruits him to helpher have a fun summer.
Okay.
And there's like a little bit ofa mystery in quotes because it's
so dumb of someone's leaving herthese clues, and they're like to

(24:34):
do things that she wouldn'tnormally do.
And so they're doing it, and thewhole middle part was just
they're both their back andforth.
They both are have feelings foreach other, they both are in
love with each other, but hedoesn't normally have long-term
relationships, and he just likehas flings with these girls who
come, you know, bacheloretteparties that go on the boat for

(24:57):
the weekend or whatever.
And she is afraid of commitmentand afraid of Tales all this
time.
So they're both in her monologueis like, I love you, I want to
tell you, but I know that it'snot gonna last, so I'm just
gonna, I'm just gonna enjoy themoment.
And they're both, I'm everychapter was this same loop.

SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
Really?

SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
Something happens, and I love you, but I'm not
gonna say it, and so I'm justgonna not, and then the next
chapter, the same loop.
And I was like, get me off ofthis.
Yeah, ride.
But it did end up, it ended on anice.

SPEAKER_02 (25:31):
I'm sorry, are they each something something cafe?

SPEAKER_01 (25:34):
No.
The first one was this is thecinnamon bun bookstore.

SPEAKER_02 (25:37):
Oh, bookstore.
It was pumpkin spice cafe, yes,pumpkin cinnamon roll bookstore,
cinnamon bun bookstore, cinnamonbun bookstore.

SPEAKER_01 (25:45):
The Christmas tree farm, which they did set up,
like, because that is the nextone, and they did set up like
the girl who obviously is gonnabe the protagonist in that.
Um the next one is thestrawberry patch pancake house
from the world, the gingerbreadbakery, the Daisy Chain Flower
Shop.
What?

(26:07):
Um, the apple pie ice creamparlor.
That is AI.
And why don't we just say theice cream?
I don't know.
Could be better.
And then there's some no, that'sit.
That's it for now.

SPEAKER_02 (26:25):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (26:26):
So I am gonna read the Christmas tree farm because
although I rated it two stars, Ido see myself giving it a try.

SPEAKER_00 (26:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (26:34):
But I need a break.

SPEAKER_02 (26:35):
Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (26:36):
So I think I'm gonna read a new fantasy series.

SPEAKER_02 (26:40):
Okay.
Well, I'm excited for you.

SPEAKER_01 (26:42):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 (26:43):
What else did you do over the weekend?
Did you hang with Josh's mom?

SPEAKER_01 (26:48):
I did.
We had a couple days where wewent uh shopping.
Did you take our macarons?
I did not.
Yeah, we went shopping one daybecause he needed a few things.
We went to the outlets, the notthe Citadel, the ones the other
direction.

(27:09):
Camarillo.

SPEAKER_02 (27:10):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (27:11):
And then on Sunday we went to his work and the
drama department was putting ona kids' variety show.

SPEAKER_02 (27:22):
Oh my, how was it?

SPEAKER_01 (27:23):
So we went to watch that.

SPEAKER_02 (27:24):
How was it?

SPEAKER_01 (27:26):
A kids' variety show.
It was musical numbers, likefrom musicals.
Yeah.
And some of the songs, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (27:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (27:35):
Are classics.
Uh Step in Time from Fitler.
Or nope, Mary Poppins.
Why did I say Fitler?
Things like that.

SPEAKER_02 (27:43):
I was like, you know, because Stepping Time on
the Roof.
That's why you thought that.

SPEAKER_01 (27:47):
Yeah.
The time warp, things like that.

SPEAKER_02 (27:49):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (27:49):
You know, classics.
But it was a kid's variety show.
Yeah, yeah.
But it was cute.
It was cute.
And then I oh, I'm just gonna gothrough my list because I can't
remember.
I watched okay, so I have fallenoff of watching Dancing with the
Stars, but I wanted to watch TheWicked week.

SPEAKER_02 (28:11):
Yeah, I heard it was good.

SPEAKER_01 (28:12):
It was good, and I cried.
Um, my favorites were RobertIrwin, he did Dancing Through
Life, he was so cute.

SPEAKER_00 (28:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (28:20):
Uh Elaine Hendricks did Define Gravity, and she they
put her up on a thing.
She did like not dance for likea good amount of time while they
were putting her on the lift.
So it was kind of like okay, youkind of didn't dance for the
whole thing, but it was verybecause she her whole package at
the beginning was she's having ahard time.

(28:43):
She had gotten some bad, she hadgotten positive reviews the week
before, but then she got likebad scores and she was very
confused by that.

SPEAKER_00 (28:52):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (28:52):
And then she was talking how she's been
struggling, she's strugglingbecause she had some accident
that caused her to get liketitanium rod or rods in her
foot.

SPEAKER_00 (29:01):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 (29:02):
And so like half of one of her feet, like she can't
really feel, and so it likeaffects like the way she moves.
And so it's like sometimes she'soff balance because of that, I
guess.
And so she was like veryemotional about that.
And the whole package was likeher, like kind of stumbling

(29:22):
through the dance, and like itit came off like she wasn't
gonna get it, yeah.
And then she like nailed it, andum, Chessie from the parent from
the parent trap, she's beenthere every week because they're
best friends, and that's sofreaking cute.
Yeah, and they pan to her afterthe final no of Define Gravity,

(29:42):
and she's bawling, and so thenit made me cry, and then Carrie
Ann was crying.
Oh my god, and it was just socute.
So I think she's really good.
I don't know if she has the fanbase to vote for her to win, you
know?

SPEAKER_02 (29:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
Cause we still have so after Wicked Night, um,
Pentatonics went home.
What's his name?

SPEAKER_02 (30:08):
Yes, Roger.
Jake, Chris.
Nope.
Alan.

SPEAKER_01 (30:12):
Nope.
The tall one.

SPEAKER_02 (30:15):
Rick.

SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
These are the most Scott.
Scott Hoing, yes.
He went home after Wicked Night.
Okay.
So we still have Andy Richterwho gay went home after Wicked
Night?

SPEAKER_02 (30:27):
That's bad.

SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
He bless his soul.

SPEAKER_02 (30:32):
He beat He didn't Andy Richter beat him?

SPEAKER_01 (30:35):
Yeah.
I think he has he has this likesweet old man.

SPEAKER_02 (30:40):
Did he dance to Hi I'm a Sentimental Man?

SPEAKER_01 (30:43):
I thought he was going to.
But he's something like, oh, itwas one short day.
Like it was like boring.
Some of the people, like DanielFischel got um, No one mourns
the or uh No Good Deed.
No good deed, which is a greatsong, but to dance to it was
weird.

(31:04):
I don't know.
It was a weird vibe.
So I felt bad for some of thepeople who got like kind of the
worst songs.
Um and then Whitney Levitt, whois one of the Mormon wives.
She's the oh yeah.
There's two of them.
Whitney is like so good.
Like she's the best dancer, Ithink, of the show.
And I would love if she won, Iwould be happy.

(31:28):
She's like, I feel like givingHeather Morris a little bit of
what Heather Morris should havegotten.
The problem is that, yeah, Idon't know what Heather just was
on a season before peopledecided, oh, we don't care
anymore.
Because Charlie D'Amelio shouldhave never won then.

(31:48):
Jojo Siwa shouldn't have, Idon't know if she won or if she
just got to the end.
She won.
She won.
Yeah.
Like all these people who aredancers.

SPEAKER_00 (31:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:55):
But Heather was right before the cusp of people.

unknown (31:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:59):
People were still like mad about that at that
time.
And she just didn't have the fanbase to keep her there.
And I don't know, people werelike so annoyed that she was a
professional dancer, even thoughshe wasn't a professional
ballroom dancer, which I don'tthink that anyone has ever been
a professional ballroom dancerand been on this show.

SPEAKER_00 (32:18):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (32:18):
But now they don't care.
It's like if they are good,check.
Like we want to watch themdance.
And I wish that she had justiceand could come back on.
Yeah.
But Whitney reminds me of herbecause she I don't think she's
probably as good of a technicaldancer, but she just looks
flawless.
Like she just everything looksso easy to her.

(32:39):
So I would be happy, honestly,with either three of those
winners.
Robert, Whitney, Elaine.

SPEAKER_02 (32:45):
Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (32:46):
And then oh, I have decided I have some like actual
headlines we can talk about.
But the last thing about me is Ijust wanted to let you know that
I've decided I want to start aChristmas village.

SPEAKER_02 (33:00):
What do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 (33:01):
Um, you know, like on the table.

SPEAKER_02 (33:04):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (33:05):
I think like this is the year I want to start.
And maybe every year justactually.
No.

SPEAKER_02 (33:12):
It's funny because over the weekend I saw Christmas
Village at boyfriend'sgrandmother's house, and I was
like, I'm gonna put my villageup this year.

SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
Where are you gonna put it?

SPEAKER_02 (33:20):
That I don't know.
Because it does need to beplugged in, so I'm thinking
either around this TV down here.

SPEAKER_01 (33:27):
Oh cute.
Um I feel like it's gonna get inthe way of the TV.

SPEAKER_02 (33:31):
No, it's not they're not tall pieces.
The houses are sl are slight.
Okay, but they do light up.
And I have fake snow, so theywould kind of be around the.

SPEAKER_01 (33:41):
Could it fit on top of that?

SPEAKER_02 (33:42):
I got a full village.
I want to say like 10 to 12shops and homes, along with like
scenescapes and brick brickwalkways and figurines.
Um but I do think I want to putit up.
There's also that space upstairson that white cabinet by my that
I was like.

SPEAKER_01 (33:59):
Why don't you break it up and put a little right
here?

SPEAKER_02 (34:01):
And then no, because people I that's where my sadness
for inanimate objects comes in.
What about the snowman and theseplayful kids?
You can't break them up.
I could I could trade them outlike every other day, I suppose.
Something to think about.
But I love this journey for you.
Where are you gonna get yourvillage from?

SPEAKER_01 (34:18):
Well, I saw a cute one at Michael's.

SPEAKER_02 (34:22):
What do you mean a cute one?
Was it a cute one?

SPEAKER_01 (34:24):
A cute little house, no.

SPEAKER_02 (34:26):
Oh, you're gonna start a village.
Meaning this year you're gonnabuy one home and like build on
it every year.

SPEAKER_01 (34:31):
Yeah, I thought about yeah, because I thought
it'd be a cute thing.
And then like as if I have kids,like then it's like we pick one
out, and it's just like everyyear you get here's my only
suggestion.

SPEAKER_02 (34:43):
Do your research so that you can because look at the
ones there's like three or four.
I know of three.
Three that are have been aroundforever, they're always
releasing new ones.
Like they look like they're fromthe same they all look like they
live in Dream Harbor, correct?

(35:03):
Yes.
So pick pick your brand and thenremain loyal.
Or wood or and their their vibesare just different.

SPEAKER_01 (35:13):
Okay.
What if I okay that could be funfor?

SPEAKER_02 (35:22):
You're putting up a Christmas village.
That's very irregular.

unknown (35:26):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (35:26):
It should be pristine.

SPEAKER_01 (35:28):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (35:29):
Are you wanting to get ones that have like moving
things?

SPEAKER_01 (35:31):
Like not to start.

SPEAKER_02 (35:34):
Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (35:34):
But yeah, I was thinking I find like a house or
one structure.

SPEAKER_00 (35:40):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (35:40):
And then I get a few trees or set a little scene.
Yeah.
But that's it.
Like I don't, I'm not gonnaundertake spending a bunch of
money and getting a like tryingto build the whole village this
year.
I want it to be like, oh, we geta piece every year, a new
building.

SPEAKER_02 (35:59):
That is something I would like to do because my
Christmas village is all fromDollar Tree.

SPEAKER_01 (36:03):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (36:03):
Because they sell miniature ceramic Christmas
villages.

SPEAKER_01 (36:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (36:08):
And they would for a while, they would do new pieces
to that same village every year.

SPEAKER_01 (36:12):
Okay.
Well, if I get if I decide whatI want it to be made out of, I
do still think at Michael's theyhad like a whole wall of just
like mini accessories.

SPEAKER_02 (36:24):
Street lamps.

SPEAKER_01 (36:25):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
Chickens.
I have a chicken.

SPEAKER_01 (36:28):
Oh my god, cute.
Yeah, I think like I'll do thein my that table that's on my
entryway that's kind of thin.
I think I'll do that.
I'll just put a little bed ofsnow, whatever you call that.

SPEAKER_02 (36:39):
Yeah, big snow, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (36:41):
And just like have my one little guy there and I
love that.
We'll see.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (36:47):
Maybe it's no, it's happening.
Okay.
You can commit to one.

SPEAKER_01 (36:50):
You must, yeah.
So yeah, that's really Okay,cute.
That was my weekend.

SPEAKER_02 (36:56):
Nice.
I went to the desert, I metboyfriend, more of a boyfriend's
family, had a lovely time, um,found out some exciting news.
I will finally be going to NewYork for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 (37:08):
Oh, yeah.
I forgot that didn't happen.

SPEAKER_02 (37:11):
No, I'm not going with boyfriend anymore.

SPEAKER_01 (37:13):
Okay, what is happening?

SPEAKER_02 (37:14):
And now I'm going to the wicked premiere.

SPEAKER_01 (37:16):
Oh, with work?

SPEAKER_02 (37:17):
Yes.
I get to go to the red carpetpremiere and I get to watch it
afterward.

SPEAKER_01 (37:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (37:23):
So I get to go to the wicked premiere.

SPEAKER_01 (37:26):
How long are you gonna be there?

SPEAKER_02 (37:27):
I th the premiere is on a Monday.
So they will fly us in Sundayand fly us back Tuesday, so
it'll be quick.
Um trying to think.
They're definitely gonna have uslike we're going as press, so
it's gonna be it's Monday,November 17th.

(37:49):
Okay, 14th.

SPEAKER_01 (37:51):
Maybe if you can pick your flight, try to get
like the earliest one you canpossibly get, or like a red eye
from here, so that you might beable to see a different show on
Sunday night.

SPEAKER_02 (38:05):
A different show.
Oh, like a Broadway show.
Because Broadway's closed onMondays.

SPEAKER_01 (38:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (38:11):
But I mean, we'll see.
They just gave it the greenlight and asked if I would go.

SPEAKER_01 (38:15):
Yeah.
Or you could try to do a matineeon Tuesday before if you could a
late flight out there.

SPEAKER_02 (38:21):
True, true, true.

SPEAKER_01 (38:22):
I don't know.
I feel like if you're going, youhave to try to see a show.

unknown (38:25):
I know.

SPEAKER_02 (38:26):
So we'll see.
But I was like, okay, that'sexciting.

SPEAKER_01 (38:29):
That is exciting.

SPEAKER_02 (38:29):
So I still get to go into New York in November, but
now it's to see the wickedpremiere.

SPEAKER_01 (38:34):
Fun.

SPEAKER_02 (38:34):
So now we have they want us to prepare, like,
because we're gonna get likebecause of the size of this
premiere, the way that it pressworks on them, these huge
premieres, is like specificcelebs will go.
It's not just like like thepremiere we did last week was
smaller.
They kind of just go down theline until they're like, all

(38:55):
right, time to start the movie.
What was that movie?
Regretting You.

SPEAKER_01 (38:59):
So I didn't even know that you did that.

SPEAKER_02 (39:02):
Oh, yeah, regretting you premiere.
They just were walking down theline until they're like, We're
about to start, everyone leaves.
But for this one, it's likeCynthia and Ariana and whatever
the celebs are agreed to beinterviewed by BuzzFeed.
So we know we will know who'sgonna come talk to talk to
Joyce.
So we're preparing those kindsof things.

SPEAKER_01 (39:23):
That's actually nice, so that you can like fully
get some good, solid questionsthat now the same thing was
supposed to happen at the AMAs,and we didn't get to talk to
like three of the main people,but that was also like far more
it's the AMAs, it's like abillion people that are being
honored.

SPEAKER_02 (39:42):
Yeah, whereas this is like just the main cast and
John Chu.
So I'm excited.

SPEAKER_01 (39:48):
That is exciting.
I'm excited for you.

SPEAKER_02 (39:50):
But yeah, the desert, as it turns out, is
cold.
It was cold at night, and I lovethe but I love the desert.

SPEAKER_01 (39:57):
Wait, what were you gonna say?
Was that what you were gonnasay?

SPEAKER_02 (40:01):
I went what I was going to say, but worded it
wrong was turns out I do stilllove the desert.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (40:05):
I was gonna say, was there some a new thing?

SPEAKER_02 (40:07):
So it's basically like where we went was a little
past Acton, so maybe like 40minutes past Palmdale.
So it's like through SantaClarita onward, right?
Desert, like Joshua treeseverywhere, kind of a thing.

SPEAKER_00 (40:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (40:19):
But they have a little town.
So his dad and stepmom livethere, like on some acreage in
just the desert.
But then close to there is wherehis sister lives, and it that
that town looks like Big Bear.

SPEAKER_00 (40:31):
Oh, cute.

SPEAKER_02 (40:32):
And it was the cutest little town.
So we're going back forChristmas.

SPEAKER_00 (40:35):
Cute.

SPEAKER_02 (40:36):
And we're gonna stay in that little town.
And this time we stayed with hisparents, but his sister is gonna
stay there over Christmas.
So we're gonna get a there'sthey have these little cabins,
so we're just gonna stay at alittle cabin in the little like
Big Bear town.

SPEAKER_01 (40:48):
Love that.
I've thought about before doinglike one of those like Airbnb's
in Joshua Tree.
Yeah, it just feels so scary atnight, it's too vast, and
there's too many animals.

SPEAKER_02 (41:01):
You're talking about those ones that are literally
like plopped in the middle ofnowhere, part of the pictures
are like an aerial view showingnothing around.

SPEAKER_01 (41:07):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (41:08):
I've never seen one like that.
I've used I've stayed in JoshuaTree, but there's always stuff
around.

SPEAKER_01 (41:12):
Yeah, I've like thought I've thought maybe that
could be fun before, but thenI'm also like, we're so far like
away from what if we need help?
What if a crazy man tries tobreak in?

SPEAKER_02 (41:25):
Or woman.

SPEAKER_01 (41:26):
Yeah.
Crazy person.

SPEAKER_02 (41:29):
Crazy person.
Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (41:30):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (41:31):
That was my week, Ann.

SPEAKER_01 (41:32):
Good.
I'm excited for you.
Okay, a few updates we have.
Okay.
The Louvre heist.

SPEAKER_02 (41:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (41:41):
There have been arrests made.

SPEAKER_02 (41:44):
Of course there have.
There Did these people thinkthey were gonna get away with
it?

SPEAKER_01 (41:50):
I don't know.
They kind of did for a minute.
Like it was You're right.
It took a few minutes.
So two sp two suspects have beenarrested over the theft of the
press precious crown jewelryfrom the Louvre.
The Paris prosecutor's officesaid one of the men had been
taken into custody as he waspreparing to take a flight from
Charles de Gaulle airport.
So he was trying to he almostgot it.

(42:11):
He was at the airport.

SPEAKER_00 (42:13):
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (42:14):
And the Paris prosecutor's office said in a
statement that the arrests hadbeen made on Saturday evening
without specifying how manypeople had been taken into
custody.
They were like upset that Idon't know what they thought was
gonna happen, but they releaseda statement and then all of
these news publications startedpicking it up, and then all over

(42:37):
the world, everyone knew this.
And then they were like, oh,like we wish we hadn't put it
out there.
It's like, well then, duh, whatdo you mean?

SPEAKER_00 (42:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:48):
Did you think that it was just gonna stay in the
confines of Paris when this hasbeen one of the biggest stories
to happen in months?
Like I don't know.
So I assume because the otherpeople who they're looking for
now know and like maybe are ableto hide a little bit better.

(43:11):
I don't know.
But they were they kind ofretracted it and they were like,
Oh, like we wish we hadn't saidanything.
It's like okay.

SPEAKER_02 (43:17):
Too late.

SPEAKER_01 (43:18):
Yeah, what I don't know what you thought was gonna
happen.
So um, yeah, as of Tuesday,October 28th, it seems we've had
two arrests and we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 (43:28):
Wow, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (43:28):
I don't remember exactly how many people it was.
Was it five?

SPEAKER_02 (43:31):
I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 (43:32):
I don't know.
And then in terms of arrests,yes, we have some arrests that
have been made in connectionwith Matthew Perry's death.

SPEAKER_02 (43:44):
Which I thought two years ago yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 (43:46):
You would oh wow.
Yeah.
I thought you would findinteresting.

SPEAKER_02 (43:50):
Yeah, it's been two years.

SPEAKER_01 (43:51):
Okay, so we have five people have been charged.

SPEAKER_02 (43:55):
I thought it was just the one.
Who's assistant?

SPEAKER_01 (43:58):
As of today, uh, five.
So let me give you a quickrundown.
Okay.
So Kenneth Iwamasa was thepersonal assistant of over 25
years.
He has been arrested.
Then we have Dr.
Mark Chavez, who never met PerryDepartment of Justice spokesman.

(44:19):
Okay, I'm not gonna skip that.
Chavez provided Placentia withthe ketamine given to Perry
through a fraudulentprescription, according to a
document outlying theallegations against him.
So this is a doctor who gave himthe um prescription.
Yeah.
Eric Fleming distributed theketamine that killed Perry.

(44:42):
According to his plea agreement,he was acquitted with Perry
through a mutual friend.
Acquainted, not acquitted,acquainted through a mutual
friend.
The agreement states withoutgiving details.
Fleming texted Perry on October4th, 2023, offering to sell
ketamine, and on October 10th,specifying liquid ketamine, but
the plea agreement doesn't sayif Perry responded either time.

(45:05):
Fleming then stated textingIwamasa on October 10th, and
they began negotiating a price.
Then we have Jasveen Songa, whoauthorities call the ketamine
queen of North Hollywood.
That is wild.
My neighbor ran what amounted toa drug-selling emporium in her

(45:28):
home.
Fleming started reaching out toSong by mid-October to buy vials
of ketamine on Perry's behalf,according to Fleming's plea
agreement.
Then we have Dr.
Salvador Plasencia.
About one month before Perry'sdeath, he learned the actor was
interested in purchasingketamine and contacted Chavez.

(45:50):
Um defendant saw this as anopportunity to profit off of Mr.
Perry.
The U.S.
attorneys said Placencia wrotein a September 23 text messages
I wonder how much this moronwill pay.
Wow.
So these people have beenarrested.

SPEAKER_00 (46:07):
Wild.

SPEAKER_01 (46:08):
And I guess it has taken them this long just to
gather all the evidence.
Good.

SPEAKER_02 (46:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:18):
But I thought that was a nice update.
Not nice, but we haven't talkedabout that in a minute.
And at the time we did talkabout it, like I don't think we
knew really anything other thanmaybe his assistant.

SPEAKER_02 (46:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:31):
But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (46:33):
Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:34):
Before we get into A-list of the week, I had a
thing that I just thought youwould think was interesting.
Oh my god.
Dude.
I got this random TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 (46:43):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (46:44):
That hold on, I gotta go back to the beginning
of it.
You know, I love history.
And the beginning of this TikTokwas an interesting fact about
every president of the UnitedStates.

SPEAKER_02 (46:56):
And you said, let me get some tea and sit down.

SPEAKER_01 (46:58):
No, you're not ready.
I was just clicking through.
And you know, some of it's kindof boring and no one cares.
Although, like, it's it wasinteresting to me because some
of the facts, and here's thething didn't fact check fact
check this.
Don't know if any of this isreal.
Okay.
The person that wrote this couldhave AI made everything up or

(47:19):
from their top of their headmade everything up.
Okay.
But for the purposes of thispodcast right here, we're gonna
pretend like it's real and thisis all alleged.
I didn't write these things.

SPEAKER_02 (47:28):
Copy that.

SPEAKER_01 (47:30):
But I'm just gonna read them from this TikTok that
I did not make.

SPEAKER_02 (47:33):
Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (47:34):
But some of them, I'm just some of them I'm just
was reading them thinking likethese people were just elected,
and they were just like ourleaders, and it's like that's
everything they say, they say istrue.
And I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (47:51):
I I'm not um articulating very well, but it's
just like they're just anotherhuman that now is in a position
of power where we all know,okay.

SPEAKER_01 (47:59):
And like I think because of the climate of today,
like some of these things wouldbe used against either party as
like they're unfit to bepresident.
And it's like, was that stillhappening back then?
Or was everyone just like, oh,these are like normal human
things, and like we don't careabout that part.
We just want to make surethey're making good decisions

(48:21):
for the country.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
So the first one, John Adams,was noted for his mood swings
and emotional outbursts, whichhistorians have attributed to a
thyroid disease or Gravesdisease.
Oh so obviously this was before,you know, this was in 1797.
So now, knowing what we know,like he could have been

(48:43):
medicated and probably wouldn'tbe having outbursts.

SPEAKER_02 (48:45):
Was that our third president?
George Washington was the firstUC.
He wants a cherry treepresident.
Number two, will you?
John Adams.
Yes.
Number two.

SPEAKER_01 (48:53):
Okay, then something we were talking about before we
started filming.
Yeah, Thomas Jefferson rewroteparts of the Bible, removing
miracles and divine references,creating his own version,
focused solely on the teachingsof Jesus, which like actually
doesn't sound bad.
Focused just on the teachings ofJesus.

(49:14):
But uh to catch you guys upwithout getting too deep, like
we were talking about how allthe different translations and
versions of the Bible were theKing James specifically, like he
was just like He was obsessedwith unicorns, so he had the
word unicorn interchange withhorse.
He just said, you know, I'mgonna have my scribes rewrite

(49:35):
this to fit what I wanted tosay.
And that's crazy.
Yeah, like that is wild to methat that's just and now like
the however many decades,centuries, whatever past people
rewriting, it's just like, oh,that's the truth.
And it's like, wait, who was he?
Right.
Who was King James to just makethis decision?

(49:56):
I don't know.
It really honestly stresses meout to think about too much, but
I thought that was fitting.

SPEAKER_00 (50:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (50:02):
Okay, let me get to the meat here.
Oh, this was funny.
John Quincy Adams swam naked inthe Potomac River every morning.
And then, like uh journalistswould wait for him and interview
him after.
And I don't know if he was stillnaked or if he put a towel
around him, but that's wild.

SPEAKER_00 (50:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (50:22):
Could he not have just put in a cold bath?
Okay, let me get to the one.
The one the big one.
James Buchanan.
Have you ever heard anythingabout James Buchanan?

SPEAKER_02 (50:36):
No, but I know the name.

SPEAKER_01 (50:37):
He was the only president to never marry, and he
lived for years with his friend,Senator William King.
They were known as Miss Fancyand Aunt Fancy.

SPEAKER_02 (50:49):
So they have had a gay president.

unknown (50:53):
Yeah.
A couple.

SPEAKER_01 (50:55):
I went down.
I have to read more on thisbecause I was like, give me all
of this information.
175-year-old history ofspeculating about President
James Buchanan's bachelorhood.
This is a whole website that Ineed to read.
I didn't get to.
I will.
But yeah, he basically Okay, no,I can't read this.

(51:18):
But anyway, that was a fun factthat I was like wild, Aunt
Fancy.
Miss Nan, what was it?

SPEAKER_02 (51:25):
Miss Fancy and Aunt Fancy.

SPEAKER_01 (51:27):
Hold on.
Where is this?
Miss Nancy and Aunt Fancy.

SPEAKER_02 (51:35):
Miss Nancy and Aunt Fancy.

SPEAKER_01 (51:36):
And if every if people were saying that, like
obviously they knew they weregay lovers.

SPEAKER_02 (51:42):
Of course.

SPEAKER_01 (51:43):
And it's just like let them let them be.

SPEAKER_02 (51:46):
Aunt Fancy.

SPEAKER_01 (51:47):
Was this after um Lincoln?
Who allegedly might be gay?
Who knows?

SPEAKER_02 (51:53):
Is he Siri?
James Buchanan was whatpresident?
James Buchanan was the 15thpresident of the United States.

SPEAKER_01 (52:03):
Two in a row?
Wow.
Hell yeah.
Um yeah, I don't know.
I can't get too far into thisbecause I could read every one
of them too, and they'reobviously a lot, but I thought
that one, that was fun historyfacts, and again, didn't write
those, didn't fact check them.

SPEAKER_02 (52:19):
But I love it.
Miss Nancy Aunt Fancy.

SPEAKER_01 (52:21):
So I want to get a book of James Buchanan ASAP.

SPEAKER_02 (52:25):
This is why my grandpa was so obsessed with
history.
Yeah and knew some things.

SPEAKER_01 (52:29):
Mm-hmm.
Alright, are you ready for?

SPEAKER_02 (52:32):
It's time.

SPEAKER_01 (52:35):
Do I say it's time for?
Okay, it's time for.
A-list of the week.
I don't know why that sound feltso easy.

SPEAKER_02 (52:46):
It's time for A-list of the week.

SPEAKER_01 (52:48):
Your voice tired.

SPEAKER_02 (52:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (52:51):
My A-list of the week is Nobody Knows This.
Season two has come out.
I know I probably said this lastyear when the first season came
out.

SPEAKER_00 (53:00):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (53:01):
And I've watched the first couple episodes and it is
good.
Did you watch the first seasonthough?
Uh-huh.
Well, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 (53:08):
I was it was a sleepy show for me, but I
watched it to like watch forAngela.
Um, it's not that I didn't likeit, it was just kind of sleepy.
Like it didn't keep myattention.
It's a girl, it's for girls.

SPEAKER_01 (53:20):
Well, uh, I think you should give it a chance.

SPEAKER_02 (53:23):
I'm gonna watch season two because like I love
Kristen Bell so much.

SPEAKER_01 (53:26):
Yeah.
Side note, we never talked aboutthe weird um photo thing that
she was getting dragged for fortheir anniversary.
Did you see all that drama?
She posted this uh picture ofher and Dax for their
anniversary, and she quoted himsomething about like I need to

(53:48):
quote it because I don't want tosay it wrong.
Okay, she posted a picture ofthem hugging, and it says, Happy
12th anniversary to the man whoonce said to me, I would never
kill you.
A lot of men have killed theirwives at a certain point, even
though I'm heavily incentivizedto kill you, I never would.
And people were like, What?

(54:09):
And just and it was like tonedeaf and all these things, and
it was like they're just kind ofweird, I think.
I think they I think they justlike are you know, they're funny
people.
They kind of went, you know, theBlake Lively and Ryan Reynolds
route, where they always they'renever their posts aren't ever
real like funny or real, or no,they're not ever serious and

(54:34):
real.
It's always like a weird, kindof like mean thing.
I don't know.
But I think that she was goingdown that route, and that is
probably a funny banter betweenthe two of them.
But I don't think she thoughtabout like the the world would
be like that's weird.
Is he gonna kill you?
I don't know, but yeah, that wasa like a couple weeks ago.

(54:58):
I think that was the big drama.

SPEAKER_02 (55:01):
That is funny.

SPEAKER_01 (55:02):
What's your A list?

SPEAKER_02 (55:04):
Gay and trying, episode three, gay and trying
fishing.
It came out this past Friday.
Until it's done.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (55:12):
All right, we'll go check it out.

SPEAKER_02 (55:15):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (55:17):
I am not gonna lie to you, everyone.
If you've made it to the end,I'm heavily dissociating.

SPEAKER_02 (55:22):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (55:23):
Like I, my whole body is like vibrating right
now.

SPEAKER_02 (55:26):
Oh my god.
Maybe you're just heading to thefifth dimension.

SPEAKER_01 (55:30):
Yeah, I don't know if it's anxiety or what.
I feel like I've just been soopen about my mental health
these days that I just thought Iwould let everyone know that I
feel like I can't makesentences.
And you're doing great.
And I am heavily dissociating.
So I'm gonna tell you thesebirthdays.

SPEAKER_02 (55:47):
Wrap it up.

unknown (55:48):
I've gotta go.

SPEAKER_01 (55:52):
Okay.
Um, Lara from Cat's Eye.
She's I can't tell you which oneshe is.
When I saw her picture, she'scutie.
She's 20.
Kendall Jenner is 30.
Benny Drama.
Benito, I don't know what's lastname.
32.
Anna Wintor is 76.
Then we have a slew ofentertainment here.

(56:14):
The Nanny premiered in 1993.
Great show.
Highly recommend.
If you've never watched it, goback and watch it.
Oh cute.
Or do a rewatch because realfunny.

SPEAKER_02 (56:24):
Real funny, real wholesome.

unknown (56:25):
Real funny.

SPEAKER_01 (56:26):
Charlie's Angels, uh, whichever one premiered in
2000.
Because I know there was likeolder ones, right?
This was like the the remote.

SPEAKER_02 (56:34):
With the new girls, Lucy Lou, and my girl drew,
Cameron D, Destiny, Charlie'sAngels.
Come on.

SPEAKER_01 (56:40):
Dun dun dun dun.

SPEAKER_02 (56:41):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (56:42):
The original Borat came out in 2006.
I didn't see that one.
I see saw the second one becauseI think someone wanted to that I
was hanging out with.
Was it you?

unknown (56:52):
Hanging out with.
What?

SPEAKER_01 (56:54):
No.

SPEAKER_02 (56:54):
Definitely wasn't me.

SPEAKER_01 (56:56):
It was not a guy either.
So it was I don't know who itwas, but I agreed to watch that
one.
Had never seen the first one.
Weird.

SPEAKER_02 (57:04):
Yeah, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01 (57:05):
Uh Good Morning America, the program.
What what year do you think thatpremiered?

SPEAKER_02 (57:10):
96.

SPEAKER_01 (57:13):
I was shocked.
1975.
I'm also shocked.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (57:19):
Definitely thought it was the 90s.

SPEAKER_01 (57:21):
Ugh, Guys and Dolls.

SPEAKER_02 (57:23):
The musical on Broadway?

SPEAKER_01 (57:24):
Yeah.
1955.

SPEAKER_02 (57:27):
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (57:27):
Could have been the movie, actually.

SPEAKER_02 (57:28):
Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a
little.
Jeep, jeep, jeep.
Talk a little more.

SPEAKER_01 (57:33):
Thank you next.
The music video.
Well, the song probably too.
2018.
And then the 1971 iconic classicmovie, Fiddler on the Roof.

SPEAKER_02 (57:44):
Iconic classic.
A lot of musical theater thisday.

SPEAKER_01 (57:47):
I know.
I was uh thinking that.
Music and musical theater.
But there you go.

SPEAKER_02 (57:53):
Okay.
Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_01 (57:55):
Happy birthday to you.
I love you guys.

SPEAKER_02 (57:59):
Thanks for watching.
I gotta go get Alice in a oldwash rag.

SPEAKER_01 (58:04):
Okay.
Love you.
Bye.
Bye.