October 13, 2025 • 52 mins
We trade stories from a humid Mexico birthday trip—sun, ocean, and a surprise customs rule that cost $450 for a second laptop—then laugh through a 3.5-ounce lotion standoff and a very personal bag check. Back home, honesty takes center stage when a routine dermatology check turns into a biopsy. No doom-Googling. We balance it with lighter fuel: a gorgeous reset at the Getty, a Star Wars journey (yes, chronological order can slap), and a clear explainer on samples vs. interpolation for the music lovers. We also process the wildfire arrest news and the visceral memory of watching flames push over the mountain.
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Allison Florea
Alex Hinsky
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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
You said you just said something before we started
(00:01):
recording about staying off ofnews TikTok and for your mental
health.
And I deleted the TikTok app forlike four days last week.
SPEAKER_00 (00:11):
Oh my God.
SPEAKER_03 (00:12):
And wow, what it did for my mental health.
SPEAKER_00 (00:16):
It is wild on there.
Really scary.
SPEAKER_03 (00:18):
Yeah.
I recommend, if you can, liketake a couple days away.
Because like when I came back,also I feel like my algorithm
was less of that.
SPEAKER_00 (00:29):
So okay.
SPEAKER_03 (00:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (00:31):
Well, it was nothing but it's nothing but bad news
for me.
And weirdly, like Chris Browndances.
SPEAKER_04 (00:38):
You know what?
No.
SPEAKER_00 (00:41):
Which like it just causes me to believe that I can
do Chris Brown dances.
SPEAKER_04 (00:44):
You can.
I'm like, I feel like you can.
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Maybe with some practice.
SPEAKER_04 (01:04):
Welcome back to the A list Podcast with Allison and
Alex.
I'm Allison.
She's Alison.
SPEAKER_00 (01:09):
I did it the backwards way again.
Oh well.
SPEAKER_04 (01:11):
What did you say?
SPEAKER_00 (01:12):
Normally I we say our names at the same time.
SPEAKER_04 (01:14):
Yeah?
SPEAKER_00 (01:15):
This time we did opposites.
So we were opposite each other.
SPEAKER_04 (01:17):
Oh.
SPEAKER_00 (01:18):
It's fine.
Nothing happened.
It still worked.
SPEAKER_03 (01:21):
It did.
I'm tired today.
I just want to get that out inthe open.
SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
Alex is too.
SPEAKER_03 (01:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:26):
We're recording the day before this episode comes
out.
SPEAKER_03 (01:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:29):
So this is fresh news, guys.
SPEAKER_03 (01:32):
I don't even have any news.
I guess I should could pull upsomething newsworthy.
SPEAKER_00 (01:36):
Great news, pop culture, fun news.
Well, we have Taylor's album.
We already talked about that.
SPEAKER_03 (01:40):
We already talked about that.
SPEAKER_00 (01:41):
Still fresh, I guess.
SPEAKER_03 (01:44):
Well, you just got back from another trip.
Tell us about it.
Tell us about it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
I got back from Mexico yesterday, two days ago.
And it was humid.
Let me tell you.
It was my first timeexperiencing that that kind of
weather with long hair.
SPEAKER_03 (01:59):
Oh yeah, I don't think I've ever been to Mexico
at this time of year.
SPEAKER_00 (02:04):
It was humid.
Straightening my hair didthere's no point.
It's crazy out there.
SPEAKER_03 (02:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (02:10):
I don't have a curly hair look, so it was just up a
lot.
SPEAKER_03 (02:12):
Oh yeah, because your um perm is gone.
SPEAKER_00 (02:16):
My perm is gone, and back to having like what do you
call like kinky brown hair.
SPEAKER_03 (02:23):
I keep getting an ad, speaking of that, for some
hair product.
I think it's a color wow hairproduct.
I don't know.
The girl's just always like,does your hair look like this
when you air dry it?
And then it's like, you probablyhave this type of curly hair.
And then she like uses theproduct, and then it is like you
(02:47):
just need to, you know, knowwhat products to use for your
curly hair.
And then her hair is like bouncycurl or like wavy bouncy.
Okay.
And I'm like, maybe that is myhair type.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (02:59):
Maybe it's mine.
But I am about to exit this era.
SPEAKER_03 (03:01):
Are you cutting it off?
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
I am, I think I'm ready for short again.
SPEAKER_03 (03:06):
Any specific like style, like a new style cut or
like a style you've done before?
SPEAKER_00 (03:11):
I think a style I've done before, just miss being
able to do things with it.
Like once you your hair getslong, it's like cool, but you
can really do two things wear itdown or wear it up.
SPEAKER_03 (03:19):
Yeah, but if it's short, like you can't even do
anything else.
SPEAKER_00 (03:22):
No, that's not true.
Like I you I do my hair amillion different ways when it's
short.
Bangs up, bangs down, swoop tothe side, slick back, messy,
texture.
SPEAKER_03 (03:32):
But that's I feel like I guess I was picturing
like really short.
That you're talking like amedium cut.
SPEAKER_00 (03:37):
Yeah, I'm talking about like what my hair,
probably around the length ofwhen we went to see when we went
to swallow.
SPEAKER_03 (03:43):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (03:44):
Like that.
Bangs up.
SPEAKER_03 (03:45):
That's very specific for the listeners, but just know
that it's um it's a good look.
SPEAKER_00 (03:51):
I haven't had it in like three years.
I've been growing my hair outfor over two years.
SPEAKER_03 (03:56):
Oh my gosh, time flies, huh?
SPEAKER_00 (03:58):
Sure do.
SPEAKER_03 (03:59):
My hair does ow.
Something hurt me and I don'tknow what.
SPEAKER_00 (04:04):
Like a nerve zing.
SPEAKER_03 (04:05):
Maybe.
I sometimes I feel like my hairfeels like it's grown a lot.
And then sometimes I look at itand I'm like, but it doesn't
look that long.
Like it's like it's a weirdthing.
SPEAKER_00 (04:17):
Allison has definitely grown from the bob.
SPEAKER_03 (04:19):
Yeah, my hair, I think it was just like so short.
SPEAKER_00 (04:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (04:23):
That it doesn't feel like it, but I don't know,
sometimes it does, I don't know.
Well riveting stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (04:29):
Yeah.
Anyway, so yeah, there was a lotof humidity.
It was a great time.
Boyfriend's 40th birthday wasthe purpose of the trip.
He had a great birthdaysurrounded by his loved ones.
And we had one, it was kind ofperfect.
We did we had two full days.
So it was like the first fullday was bright, sunny, hot pool
day.
That's why my forehead's all redand I'm burnt.
(04:49):
Day two was overcast and humid.
So we got a full pool day andthen we got like a lounge fun
day.
SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
Okay.
Wait, were you by the ocean oror yeah, right on the ocean.
Okay.
So did you go to the ocean oryou just went to the beach?
SPEAKER_00 (05:01):
Yeah, like from the hotel, the beach access from the
hotel.
But here's my gripe.
So I was working while I wasthere still, so I had to take
both my computers.
When you go to Mexico, you guys,at least to Cabo, you press a
button when you get there, andeither it goes green or it goes
red.
If it goes green, you move on.
If it goes red, which is random,then you send your bag through
(05:23):
this thing and you get searched.
Of course that happens to me.
Like if it's gonna happen toanyone, it will be me.
And it did.
So they send my stuff through.
Comes out and he goes, Do youhave a laptop?
I said, Yeah.
He goes, Two?
I said, Yeah.
He goes, Come with me.
So you can only take one laptopinto Mexico.
So I got detained, taken to aroom.
(05:43):
They looked up the serial numberof my second, my work laptop,
and based on the value of thatcomputer, charged me a fee of
$450.
No to keep it with me, or Icould throw it away.
SPEAKER_03 (05:56):
So So either no, you don't have to pay anything, you
throw it away, throw it away iscrazy.
Or you pay$450.
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
There was no other like kind of way out.
SPEAKER_03 (06:06):
What's the rule?
What's the law here?
SPEAKER_00 (06:08):
But then he he took my like the immigration
paperwork that you sign orwhatever.
The like when you go to Mexico,you have to fill out a piece of
paper, a declaration.
And he underlined where it saysonly one personal or one laptop
per non-Mexican citizen.
SPEAKER_01 (06:22):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (06:23):
So I just paid$450 to get into the country.
SPEAKER_04 (06:26):
That's insane.
SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
Then of course I get detained on my way back because
my lotion bottle was 3.5 ounces.
SPEAKER_03 (06:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:35):
But not before she pulled out all of my sex toys.
Basically.
And it was like she was like,you repack this?
I was like, yeah, I will.
Thank you.
Anyway, so that sucks.
Other than that, though, we gotvery lucky with airplanes.
Like his sister joined us.
Her plane was severely delayed,and she was just flying from
(06:55):
Sacramento.
Like she wasn't even flying fromsuper far.
And then on the way back, andeveryone got delayed except us.
SPEAKER_03 (07:03):
Because of the government shutdown?
SPEAKER_00 (07:05):
I think, yeah, the TSA is and and maybe because we
didn't have a connecting flightand it was direct, it had
something to do with it, but uhmade it a little easier.
But regardless, I'm grateful wemade it in and out, had a really
nice time, and now it's back toreality because this Friday Gay
and Trying premieres on BuzzFeedvideo, you guys.
SPEAKER_03 (07:24):
It's very exciting.
SPEAKER_00 (07:25):
Tune in this Friday.
SPEAKER_03 (07:27):
It feels like it's been so long.
SPEAKER_00 (07:28):
I because it has.
Literally since like what,April?
SPEAKER_03 (07:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
So yeah, anyway, guys, tune in, gay and trying.
Our first pilot episode comesout.
SPEAKER_03 (07:40):
Yeah, next week we'll have things linked in case
that we can't in this one.
But if you're not following Alexon all of his socials and
Buzzfeed, follow so you can seethe kind of shenanigans I get
into being gay and tryingthings.
SPEAKER_00 (07:56):
I also want to send an apology to anyone who listens
to our podcast on Spotify.
That you will notice it stillhas not updated, and I looked
into this.
So basically, like the cue thatSpotify uses to update podcasts
is very delayed.
And the only thing that BuzzSprout can figure is that it
(08:17):
they think it will update when Iwe upload our next episode.
It'll like spark in their queuebecause the alternative is to
take it down, but but it won'timmediately come down.
And if we try to re-upload withthe same information, that
Spotify could flag that as aduplicate episode and then not
allow it to.
So, like of our options, thebetter is to just leave it for
now.
SPEAKER_04 (08:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:37):
If it does not update, go listen on any other
platform.
But if Spotify is all you have,if it doesn't update, I will
take it down next week.
SPEAKER_04 (08:45):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (08:45):
Wait till it's gone and then re-upload that episode
and just throw it back in place.
SPEAKER_03 (08:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you guys don't know, theSpotify, like there was a glitch
or there's a corrupt file and itcut it off after 33 minutes.
And we've tried he's triedmultiple times to fix that.
SPEAKER_00 (09:00):
He was able to fix it on everything else.
SPEAKER_03 (09:02):
But yeah, Apple's Apple's good, YouTube's good.
SPEAKER_00 (09:05):
Directly from our site, our website must probably
is good.
Google Podcasts is good.
They're all good.
SPEAKER_03 (09:11):
But thank you to the person that flagged it because
since I I myself don't useSpotify per podcasts, I wasn't
aware.
SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
So Heather also, she was like, why does it stop after
33 minutes?
SPEAKER_03 (09:22):
Yeah, it just like cuts off.
SPEAKER_00 (09:23):
I'm so sorry, everyone.
SPEAKER_03 (09:24):
So sorry.
SPEAKER_00 (09:25):
Um we'll keep we'll keep an eye on that.
But yes, that's I think that'sall my updates.
SPEAKER_03 (09:31):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (09:31):
Time for sports corner.
SPEAKER_03 (09:33):
I have a few things before Oh, really?
Well, I didn't even there's noSports Corner because I didn't
play this week because I felt soill.
SPEAKER_02 (09:43):
Why?
How?
SPEAKER_03 (09:44):
Okay, so to rewind, now that it is all the
information is out, Caleb hasposted a blog.
We've had a member hangout wherewe explained everything.
I can talk about the reason thatwe've been.
I don't know if I I said this inthe last one.
We're pre-shooting a lot ofcontent.
I just didn't say why.
(10:04):
Um, pre-recording 12 YouTubevideos, a couple of um uh dance
live streams pre-recordedbecause Caleb found out through
his MRI that he tore completelytore his ACL.
And we've been working the pastthree weeks to uh get content
(10:26):
done because he's having surgeryum on like I think the 30th of
October.
And we are frantically trying toget as much um content as we can
done because he'll be down.
He'll be out of commission umfor a week or two, a week or so
(10:47):
um just like from the surgery,and then his doctor told him he
can pretty much immediately sitin a chair and instruct and talk
and whatever.
Um and he'll have a brace andstuff on.
Um he just won't be able todance at full capacity for nine
months to a year, basically.
So we we wanted our like YouTubebooty army members to not have a
(11:12):
lapse in content um just in casesomething there's a complication
in the surgery, and it doesactually take longer for him to
come back to even sitting.
So that has been a mucho tiringsituation.
SPEAKER_00 (11:32):
Are you just pre-recording, like
pre-recording all of themountain videos and then
pre-recording some live stream?
Because you'll jump back inprobably.
SPEAKER_03 (11:39):
Yeah, got it.
SPEAKER_00 (11:40):
Just to give him some cushion.
SPEAKER_03 (11:41):
Yeah, the information from the doctor was
that he can pretty muchimmediately go back.
So we wanted to have like a aweek or so or a couple weeks of
um live streams.
Ready to go, yeah.
Pretty much two weeks, I think.
Okay.
So but we've been basically likeour schedule's been one day
(12:06):
meeting up, yeah, coming up withchoreography for a couple songs,
immediately going to the parkand recording them, and then the
next day having a live stream,some days before the live stream
meeting, doing morechoreography, doing social
content, and then the next daymeeting up again, finishing
(12:28):
choreography that maybe wasn'tdone, shooting again, then
meeting, then the next daypre-recording something, a live
stream.
And maybe we've had like anafternoon off or a morning off,
but in the last three weeks,that's it's been every day.
SPEAKER_02 (12:47):
Got it.
SPEAKER_03 (12:48):
And I think it's it's not like obviously like a
lot of people work every like goto work every day, and it's not
like our work isn't every day.
We just don't normally it's uhwe're not on camera every day.
Yes, we're not on camera everyday.
It's it's mainly a couple days aweek on camera and then the rest
(13:09):
of the days editing and thatkind of thing, right?
And so I think it's beenmentally exhausting to like be
on like a personality, yeah, andthen also trying to come up with
um choreography that is likeexciting and not repetitive to
do, which we've all I I actuallylike, the dances we've done
(13:31):
recently like are some of myfavorite.
I think some there's somethingabout us coming in cold with
nothing and collaborating thethree of us, because it
historically Caleb has kind ofpicked a song or we've been
asked to do a song by a recordlabel, yeah.
And he's kind of come up withlike bones of a song, and then
(13:54):
Haley and I will have come inand fixed things.
Give it the old razzle dazzle,yeah.
Fix things, been like, oh, wedon't think this this part
works, like that just kind oflike tweaked, yeah.
But the three of us kind ofworking together collaboratively
has actually been, I think, likemade us have like more
(14:16):
interesting dances.
So I've enjoyed them, but it islike just like had been has been
mentally exhausting.
SPEAKER_01 (14:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (14:24):
And then also on top of that, like I don't sleep well
in any way.
SPEAKER_02 (14:29):
Oh right.
SPEAKER_03 (14:30):
In general, so yeah, so I've just like kind of gotten
behind.
I the other day I took amelatonin, yeah, and I didn't
have to do anything until later,and I literally slept until 11.
SPEAKER_00 (14:45):
I don't think I went to bed until like after
midnight, but so still at leastnine to ten hours.
Yeah, god dang.
SPEAKER_03 (14:52):
I know.
So yeah, that's been happening.
SPEAKER_00 (14:55):
And if you're do you have any more videos to shoot on
the mountain?
Okay, not done.
Yeah, no, we're not done.
SPEAKER_03 (15:00):
I think we have three, four more.
SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
Okay, well, that's less than I thought.
SPEAKER_03 (15:05):
Yeah, we've You're over halfway.
Yeah, we've been reallycranking.
SPEAKER_00 (15:08):
Because I imagine he's gonna have to start like
getting prepped for surgery.
SPEAKER_03 (15:12):
He is like he's already doing physical therapy.
They told him that it's reallyit helped him that he didn't
stop moving and working out,like he was still going to
berries, which is wild.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
But they Because it didn't allow it to like heal or
stiffen up or anything.
SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
Yeah, stiffen up.
Um, because basically, beforeyou do ACL surgery, they want
you to your quad to be as strongas it possibly can because it's
gonna atrophy so much.
And um, that hinders yourrecovery a little bit if once
the surgery is done and you caneventually start moving on it if
(15:50):
the muscles have deteriorateddeteriorated so much.
So they're they're actually likeif people have that injury and
then they just like go to notmoving, sitting and trying to
like rest it quote for a periodof time before they go get it
checked out, that usually is totheir detriment.
(16:10):
And because he didn't do that,they that actually helped him a
little bit.
So he's already been going tophysical therapy and still
working out.
Okay, it's just like certainmovements remind him that he
basically has nothing likeholding his knee together.
SPEAKER_02 (16:28):
Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (16:29):
It's a weird thing.
Like, I've I would assume if youhad that injury, like you can't
do yeah, you can't even walk.
And I guess that's not the case.
I don't know.
Cause I'm used to seeing likebasketball players or someone
like that.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah.
So that's been happening.
Damn.
What else was I going to updateon?
SPEAKER_00 (16:52):
Well, you didn't play.
SPEAKER_03 (16:54):
Oh, I didn't.
Oh yeah, because when uhWednesday we had the yeah, we
were just like choreographingsongs.
And I I don't know, I think I Iwoke up and we had the day
before had done a couple,choreographed a couple songs,
had a live stream, and then Iwoke up the next day and I had
(17:17):
oh I when I went to sleep, I hada headache.
And then I woke up and theheadache was still there.
SPEAKER_02 (17:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (17:23):
And I was like worried that I was getting sick.
Like, I don't know.
And then I was like supernauseous.
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:32):
And I was like, oh no, I feel like I'm getting like
the flu or something.
Like, what what else would makeyou nauseous?
Kind of have like stomachissues, like bathroom issues,
and then also have a headache.
And like, I I thought I alwaysthink I have a fever.
Right.
I didn't took my temperature, itwas 98.
Yeah, like it was as normal asit could possibly be.
(17:52):
But for a while I was like, Oh,I'm warm.
I have a fever.
SPEAKER_02 (17:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
And I was like, oh no, I have the flu, but I we had
to shoot videos still.
We had to shoot literally three.
And the third one, I don't evenknow if it's usable because it
was so dark.
Like, oh shit, it the sun wasgoing, yeah.
Caleb bless his heart was justlike messing up the same section
(18:15):
over and over, just because Ithink he wasn't like he was
probably at his wits' end too.
Sure.
And yeah, I just like I messagedthe group and I was like, you
guys, I and so many peopleweren't gonna be there, and I
was like, I'm gonna have to go.
And I was like, hey guys, do wehave enough that like you can do
(18:38):
without me?
Because I feel so bad.
And they were like, Yeah,totally.
So there's no sports cornerbecause I didn't play.
Okay, but I did remember the onething I do need to update you
on.
Yes, and I just put out a vlogyesterday, which is today when
we're recording, um that talksabout a little bit of health.
(19:00):
I haven't even talked to youbecause you've gone a little bit
of health stuff, and that is onThursday I went to the
dermatologist and had to have abiopsy done on a spot on my head
right here.
And I don't know what'shappening with it, but I
obviously have health anxietyand I am a hypochondriac, and I
(19:22):
am not doing well with that.
Oh my god.
Um in the vlog I I went in depthon it, but the TLDR is I've had
like a spot on my head that Iwas worried about, but I tried
to do the exact opposite of whatI always do and not freak out
and not Google and like panicabout it.
And I didn't really tell anyone.
(19:44):
I was just like, I already hadthis um standing appointment
because it has become a yearlything just to get a full body
check.
I did it last year.
So I already had thisappointment and I was like,
okay, I'm just gonna ask aboutit when I go.
And then I was so sure that Iwould go and be like, they
should be like, oh, it'snothing.
(20:04):
Because when I freak out aboutthings, it's never actually been
right the thing that I think itis.
And she looks at it.
I told her I was, she was like,Do you have any like concerns or
concern areas?
And I told her, and she looks atit under her like microscope
thing, and she was basicallylike, Yeah, I think I think I
(20:26):
want to biopsy this.
She was kind of silent for asecond, which didn't love.
Um, and then naturally I freakedout and cried, and she was not
ready for that, I guess.
Cause she was like, What are youlike what's wrong?
Yeah, I was like, sorry, I haveI'm like, I have a lot of health
anxiety, like I'm kind offreaking out right now.
And she was like, Well, what'syour concern?
(20:47):
And I would, I was, I wanted tobe like, I don't know that I
have cancer, but yeah, I won'tknow for a couple weeks, but
that's something that isstressing me out.
SPEAKER_00 (20:58):
What is it exactly a mole?
SPEAKER_03 (21:00):
I don't know.
It's like some this like thing,it's it's kind of almost gone
because the biopsy, she like dugit out of me.
There is like still some left.
So if it is something that needsto be removed more, I think I
would have to go back and havethe rest of it.
But wait, what was yourquestion?
Oh, it was just like to me, itjust felt like a scab, but it
wasn't going away.
(21:20):
Yeah, and I I don't know, I justlike I had a feeling that I just
needed to ask about it.
So yeah, I don't know.
Keep us posted.
SPEAKER_00 (21:34):
Anxiety health corner, geez.
SPEAKER_03 (21:36):
Yeah.
I yapped about it for a longtime in my vlog, so you can go
check that out watch that.
But I think that that's oh, Iwent, Josh and I went to the
Getty Museum.
Oh yeah, how was that?
I've still never been.
You haven't?
You've been here for so long.
Actually, he hadn't either, andI think you guys have been here
for like pretty much the sameamount of time.
SPEAKER_00 (21:54):
But I also haven't been to Tar pits, none of that.
SPEAKER_03 (21:58):
Well, they're not equal.
SPEAKER_00 (22:00):
You're right.
SPEAKER_03 (22:00):
I haven't been to LACMA, like the actual museum
part of it.
He had been to the Getty Villa,which I guess is in Malibu.
It's like I kept calling himJPG, John Paul Getty, I think is
his name, or John Peter.
I don't know.
That was his home, isn't it wasin Malibu.
Okay.
This is the gallery that hepurchased.
It's just an artist.
SPEAKER_00 (22:20):
Do you actually take a tram up?
SPEAKER_03 (22:22):
Yeah, it's really cute.
Yeah.
Um, it was beautiful.
SPEAKER_00 (22:26):
It's free, isn't it?
SPEAKER_03 (22:27):
On Sundays, I believe.
SPEAKER_00 (22:28):
Oh, okay.
I don't know if it's free everyday.
So it was free for you.
SPEAKER_03 (22:31):
It was free.
You just have to reserve a time,but just because I think they
want to make sure there's notlike a million people at the
exact same time.
But I had a great time.
It was lovely.
SPEAKER_00 (22:42):
Lots of art, lots of history.
SPEAKER_03 (22:44):
Lots of art, lots of history.
SPEAKER_00 (22:46):
You love history.
SPEAKER_03 (22:47):
I do.
SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:49):
Yeah, there was some.
I mean, so it towards the end,we kind of were like, all right,
we're getting a little because Ithink our time was at a we got
there at 11, probably like fromthe tram, parking tram to and
walking in is probably like 1120by the time we actually got
there.
And we left at 2:30.
(23:10):
So it was we were there for aminute.
Yeah.
But it was really pretty, had agood time.
Cute.
Oh, the other thing I need toupdate on is that I have
completed the next the end ofthe trilogy of Star Wars of the
70s, 70s, 80s trilogy.
And I will say four, five, andsix.
(23:34):
I loved Six.
Very good.
Had a great time with that one.
SPEAKER_00 (23:38):
What's that one called?
SPEAKER_03 (23:39):
No idea.
SPEAKER_00 (23:41):
Good job.
SPEAKER_03 (23:42):
Uh, what I will say is I have felt validated in my
choice to watch in chronologicalorder because I do think that me
doing that made the ending ofSix like hit harder.
SPEAKER_00 (23:55):
Because of the new ho the new holograms?
SPEAKER_03 (23:59):
Like Hayden Christensen was imposed as yes
Dark.
I I forgot he told me that thatwas new.
Um yeah, I just think like theit made the emotions of it more
real because I have seen, I haveseen um what's his name?
Yes.
Little guy.
SPEAKER_02 (24:21):
Yoda.
SPEAKER_03 (24:22):
Yoda.
When he spoiled alert dies,yeah.
I like had seen, you know, youngspry him like kick an ass.
SPEAKER_00 (24:30):
Kick an ass.
Take it.
SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
And then yes, the Hayden Christensen of it and the
Darth like kind of having aheart.
SPEAKER_01 (24:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (24:41):
I I thought it hit harder for me, I will say.
So I felt good about my choice.
SPEAKER_00 (24:47):
So now you're on to eight, nine, and ten.
SPEAKER_03 (24:48):
Now I'm on eight, nine and ten, where we have Ray,
which I'm so familiar with fromthe ride.
SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
From Disney, yes, of course.
SPEAKER_03 (24:55):
But do you know her relation to anyone?
No way.
SPEAKER_00 (24:58):
Oh, then you're gonna love it.
It's really nice.
SPEAKER_03 (25:00):
Yeah, I have no context other than the
characters we s see going intothe ride.
I know what's her um little guy?
SPEAKER_00 (25:10):
B B B B B eight eight.
SPEAKER_03 (25:12):
BB eight.
SPEAKER_00 (25:13):
B88.
BB8.
SPEAKER_03 (25:14):
B B eight.
SPEAKER_00 (25:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
B88?
SPEAKER_03 (25:18):
No, BB8, I think.
SPEAKER_00 (25:19):
B B.
SPEAKER_03 (25:20):
There's two eights.
SPEAKER_00 (25:22):
Isn't there?
SPEAKER_03 (25:23):
No.
But I'm gonna look.
SPEAKER_00 (25:25):
B8 B eight?
SPEAKER_03 (25:26):
No, I think it's just BB8.
Yeah, BB-8.
SPEAKER_00 (25:29):
BB8.
I knew it.
SPEAKER_03 (25:32):
I knew it.
Um, but yeah, I just wanted toupdate everyone on that.
And to say if you feel like youwant to watch it in
chronological order, you should.
SPEAKER_00 (25:41):
You're heard it here first.
SPEAKER_03 (25:43):
And don't let anyone talk you out of it.
SPEAKER_00 (25:45):
Seriously.
SPEAKER_03 (25:48):
Oh, I don't know if you saw this, but a re an arrest
has been made for the person whostarted the fire that led to the
Palisades fire.
SPEAKER_00 (25:54):
I saw that, and he's from Florida.
Florida.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:58):
Yeah.
If you guys haven't seen this,this might just have only hit
California.
But um an arrest has been madein the person who lit the fire
that then led to the Palisadesfire.
So they didn't start thePalisades fire per se.
Twenty-nine-year-old former Uberdriver arrested in connection
with um the fire.
(26:18):
And it says that authoritiesallege that Jonathan Rindernecht
maliciously set the fire, whichkilled a dozen people.
It was fully contained January31st, which how wild that that
was that long ago.
SPEAKER_01 (26:35):
I know.
SPEAKER_03 (26:36):
Oh man.
Um Rinderneck was arrestedTuesday near his home in Florida
on a charge of destruction ofproperty by means of fire.
SPEAKER_00 (26:43):
Wait, January what?
SPEAKER_03 (26:44):
31st.
It was so many weeks.
It was like at least two weeksof straight up.
SPEAKER_00 (26:52):
Started it on January 31st.
SPEAKER_03 (26:54):
It was contained on the 31st.
SPEAKER_00 (26:55):
Oh, I was gonna say, I thought it was like mostly all
of January.
SPEAKER_03 (26:57):
It was, yeah.
Um It doesn't have the datehere.
It says fire in January, but itsays contained on the 31st.
I think it was at least twoweeks.
SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (27:06):
Of straight up beyond be on deck to evacuate.
SPEAKER_00 (27:11):
Do you ever stop and think about that sometimes and
how fucking terrifying it was?
SPEAKER_03 (27:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:15):
And like seeing it was just crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (27:17):
Yeah, because it felt like it felt like a movie
that I've seen.
Like it felt like we lived askyline burn was crazy.
No, I don't think in all of mylife I will forget driving down
the 101, seeing the fire startto come over our side of the
mountain.
(27:38):
Called up Josh.
I was like, hey, I see the fire.
And he was like, he was like,yeah, I think we should go,
like, go home.
I was like, I just got out of adance class.
Like, I need to take a shower.
And he was like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:50):
Pot of parade to your house.
SPEAKER_03 (27:51):
Shower, change, and then we'll leave.
And then I'm in the shower andhe runs into my apartment, like
bangs on the shower, thebathroom door, like, get out,
we're going now.
And I was like, what happened tothe like calmness that you just
had, being like, Yeah, we'regonna go just like get because
we'd already had our cars packedfor like a week to go.
SPEAKER_01 (28:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (28:14):
So all I needed to do was get dressed and like grab
like my purse and computer andstuff like that.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (28:20):
And it that was so jarring.
I think I think his urgency wasmore of traffic than the fire.
SPEAKER_00 (28:29):
Which that makes sense.
SPEAKER_03 (28:30):
Yeah, I will like never forget that.
It felt like a movie.
Yeah.
But it says authorities said thePalisades fire was a holdover
fire or a continuation of theLackman fire, which Rinderneck
is alleged to have started onNew Year's Day.
SPEAKER_00 (28:43):
So my God, January 1st to January 31st.
SPEAKER_03 (28:46):
Yes, but I don't think it I think it took a few
days because they're saying theysuppressed that that fire, but
did not know that it continuedto smolder and burned
underground.
And so on January 7th, as heavywinds swept through the area,
the fire began to surface andspread, becoming this Palisades
fire.
SPEAKER_00 (29:02):
And Newsflash, we get these winds every January.
SPEAKER_03 (29:05):
The Santa Ana winds.
I never knew what that meant,but now I do.
Um, and it said he previouslylived in the Palisades
neighborhood, had just finishedworking as an Uber driver when
he started the Blaze, accordingto the complaint.
Two passengers had picked up andtold investigators that
Rinderneck appeared agitated andangry.
(29:27):
They told the news that he wasimmediately removed from
accessing the platform afterokay, yeah, he does not Uber
driver, but where did I see?
Says authorities alleged thatafter he dropped off a passenger
and Pacific Palisades,Rinderneck drove towards the
Skull Rock Trailhead, tried tocontact a former friend, and
then walked up the trail.
(29:48):
He took photos on his cell phoneand listened to a song by a
French artist whose music videoincluded thing things being lit
on fire.
Authorities said that aroundeleven forty seven p.m.
he took two videos on top of thehill.
And no fires were visible,according to that um complaint.
Around 12, 12 a.m.
on January 1st, sensorsindicated a fire in the area.
It says that he, Renderneck,tried to call 911 several times,
(30:11):
but could not get throughbecause of his cell phone.
It was out of range.
Um, but he eventually was ableto reach the 911 operator and
report the fire.
So he started the fire and thentried to report it.
So he didn't seem like he was asuspect.
SPEAKER_02 (30:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (30:26):
And then he fled the scene, but then he circled
around and followed thefirefighters up and then took a
video of the firefighters.
So I don't know, but he'sinterested, so we'll see what
happens.
But I guess like it feels likethey must feel like they've
(30:48):
investigated enough of him tohave enough on him to announce
and arrest.
SPEAKER_00 (30:54):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:55):
Cause it's like it's been so long that it feels like
they m had to have like beenreally looking into him.
Right.
But I don't know.
That's actually like a good uh agood button on it because we for
so long didn't know.
SPEAKER_00 (31:12):
We were like, We knew about one of them.
SPEAKER_03 (31:15):
The one uh Southern California Edison started.
I don't know this.
SPEAKER_00 (31:21):
The there was the Palisades fire, and then there
was the what was it called?
The other huge one.
SPEAKER_03 (31:29):
The one on the east, kind of by Pasadena?
SPEAKER_00 (31:32):
Eaton.
Was it called the Eaton Fire?
SPEAKER_03 (31:34):
There was there was there was so many of them.
The Eaton Fire was kind ofnorth.
That was like north of thevalley.
SPEAKER_00 (31:41):
The one Altadena was the one east, like by whatever
the the biggest one was thePalisades, the whatever the next
biggest one was was SouthernCalifornia Edison electrical
fire started.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
Okay, that was the one kind of Pasadena area,
Altadena.
SPEAKER_00 (31:56):
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_03 (31:57):
I didn't know that.
Just an electrical fire.
SPEAKER_00 (32:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:01):
That's really unfortunate that both things
were happening, and then boththe winds were taking both of
those fires and spreading iteverywhere.
Because at the time it was every10 minutes, I feel like we there
was a notification on ourphones, like a new fire popped
up over here, a new fire poppedup over there.
SPEAKER_00 (32:19):
We even had that one in the runyon fire pop up for
like 13 hours.
SPEAKER_03 (32:22):
Yeah.
Santa Clarita.
Yeah.
Like, how was how was it gettingall the way up there?
SPEAKER_00 (32:27):
Because the embers were flying through the air.
SPEAKER_03 (32:29):
How did they stay lit so long?
I don't understand.
Like, truly there is someconspiracies, but that people
like were starting them afterall the other ones were in.
Well, why?
SPEAKER_00 (32:38):
Burn the Rich, even though the Palisades was
generational stuff.
Yeah.
Whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (32:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:44):
So we'll see.
SPEAKER_03 (32:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:48):
Also, other sad pop culture news.
SPEAKER_03 (32:50):
Diane Keaton.
SPEAKER_00 (32:51):
We lost Diane Keaton.
And that is a bummer.
SPEAKER_03 (32:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:55):
So I want to know how, because she was last like I
was looking at like last timeshe was seen in public.
She's so lively.
SPEAKER_03 (33:00):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of what movie, like to me,
like I associate with her.
SPEAKER_00 (33:08):
Right now, Chad is up there watching Mad Money.
SPEAKER_03 (33:11):
I don't think I've seen that.
SPEAKER_00 (33:12):
With um Queen Latifa and Katie Holmes.
SPEAKER_03 (33:17):
I don't think I've seen that.
I didn't see that.
SPEAKER_00 (33:20):
Mine would be Father of the Bride.
SPEAKER_03 (33:22):
Yes.
I was trying to think like why Icouldn't.
SPEAKER_00 (33:25):
Mine would be Father of the Bride and maybe um she's
one where she's a therapist toMandy Moore's her daughter.
SPEAKER_03 (33:31):
Because I said so.
Because I said so, yeah.
Something's gotta give ispretty.
SPEAKER_00 (33:36):
First Wives Club.
That's a good one.
SPEAKER_03 (33:40):
I'm trying to go back.
SPEAKER_00 (33:42):
Something's gotta give, yeah.
That's that is a big one.
SPEAKER_03 (33:44):
Yeah, Father of the Bride is probably my what I
would associate with her themost.
Because I said so.
Morning glory.
SPEAKER_00 (33:59):
Oh, that's a good one.
The news one.
SPEAKER_03 (34:03):
I don't think I saw most of these like newish ones.
I know the book club ones werelike recent-ish.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (34:14):
Well, it's the bummer.
SPEAKER_03 (34:17):
Yeah, I wonder.
It didn't there hasn't been any.
Yeah.
I wonder it must might have beencancer or something.
Cause like I don't know.
(34:37):
Obviously, if it's late stage,it can move quickly very fast,
especially what kind.
But that is sad.
SPEAKER_01 (34:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (34:47):
And an iconic head of hair.
Iconic.
Literally.
So healthy.
Wow.
I'm just like looking atpictures and I'm like, what a
what gray hair you have.
I feel like some who someoneelse passed away late recently,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (35:06):
Really?
SPEAKER_03 (35:08):
I thought so.
Jane Goodall.
SPEAKER_00 (35:11):
Yes.
Jane Goodall.
SPEAKER_03 (35:15):
Our is she considered a scientist?
Hold on.
Actually, I don't want to soundstupid.
SPEAKER_00 (35:24):
Humanitarian.
SPEAKER_03 (35:26):
English primatologist and
anthropologist.
You don't hear anthropologists.
SPEAKER_00 (35:30):
You don't hear primatologists often either.
SPEAKER_03 (35:33):
That's true.
Yeah, known for her work um withthe apes.
Yeah, the world's preeminentchimpanzee expert.
Looks like a sweet lady.
SPEAKER_00 (35:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:47):
She British?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:49):
Also, we almost had scary news about Dolly Parton.
Did you see all of that?
I know.
SPEAKER_03 (35:52):
Her sister.
SPEAKER_00 (35:53):
Like sister cool it.
It's kidney stones.
SPEAKER_03 (35:55):
She's like, pray, pray for my sister.
SPEAKER_00 (35:58):
I was like, oh night.
SPEAKER_03 (36:00):
Everyone thought she is she's going.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:03):
She's like, I'm not dead yet.
SPEAKER_03 (36:05):
Kidney stones.
Which I've never had a kidneystone.
You have.
Maybe you feel like you'redying.
SPEAKER_00 (36:09):
I mean, you do.
It's pretty awful, but it's not,you know, unless unless there's
a bad infection they can't get ahandle on, which I suppose in
her older age, maybe, but kidneystones, not heart failure.
SPEAKER_03 (36:20):
Imminent death.
Um, I did come across somethingI thought you might find
interesting because I feel likewe've had this conversation many
a time.
SPEAKER_01 (36:28):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (36:28):
And it is the sample versus interpolation saga.
SPEAKER_02 (36:33):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03 (36:34):
And our our perfect pitch king, Charlie Pooth, put
out a video that I watched inits entirety and it did shed
some light for me.
Um, and I just wanted to updatethe listeners because I know,
like, literally, I think we'vetalked about it like five times.
SPEAKER_01 (36:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (36:49):
So his explanation is that a song, as long as it
can have four of the same notein order.
So his, I can't play it becauseit will get demonetized, but
like his explanation was fifthharmonies.
I know you're always work fromhome.
(37:12):
So he has uh work from home islike C, C, E flat, A flat G, I
believe, in in notes.
And then he compared it to aHaley Steinfeld song that has a
similar melody.
And hers is C C E flat A flat,but then it goes B flat instead
(37:34):
of G.
And so if it has four of thesame notes, it's fine.
It's nothing, it's just anotherpop song that has similar notes.
Once it reaches five notes thesame, that is interpolation.
SPEAKER_01 (37:49):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (37:50):
So that's I think where he's in the video he's
explaining it, he's like,There's been a lot of discourse
lately.
He doesn't specifically call outTaylor Swift, but it's was made
recently, so it's clearly aboutthat.
And it's like it is possible foryou to have a song that just
sounds like another song, andlegally, like this is how you it
(38:12):
how everyone interprets one fromthe other.
So is if you have four notes thesame, the first four notes of a
line, totally fine.
Fifth note, interpolation, ifit's the exact same.
But if you just change one notethere, nothing.
SPEAKER_01 (38:30):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (38:30):
So that I feel like is the end all be all because we
have speculated on the side ofthe so many times.
Obviously, a sample is just likeyou all taking the actual melody
and crediting it to your song.
So I thought that was sointeresting.
SPEAKER_00 (38:48):
Lyrics.
SPEAKER_03 (38:49):
Correct, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (38:50):
Because that almost happened with Queen Herbie with
Cheap Talk.
That was the whole issue behindthat.
SPEAKER_03 (38:56):
But I thought that that was very interesting.
And he, if you guys go toCharlie Pooh's TikTok, he sings
a couple of the songs.
I think he has like a couple umexamples on this, and like ones
that are okay, and then onesthat is interpolation, and he
sings it for you with obviouslyperfect pitch that I don't have
to sing it for you.
(39:16):
Yeah, and it is like very easyto understand.
So go check out his TikTok ifyou check it out.
What else do you got?
SPEAKER_00 (39:26):
That's all I got.
I'm back to reality this week.
SPEAKER_03 (39:29):
Back to reality.
SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
Can't believe we're halfway through the month
already.
SPEAKER_03 (39:34):
I know, and I haven't yet to do a single
fall-related thing.
Um yeah, I think page six reallyis just about Diane Keaton.
I'm not seeing anything reallyexciting.
Oh, boom clap.
Charlie XX fuels Taylor Swiftfeud with alleged response to
singers distract during SNLcameo.
(39:55):
I did hear that Charlie was inthe studio.
So we'll see what she comes outwith.
And honestly, someone said this.
They were like, I if I wasTaylor, I'd be a little worried
because Charlie doesn't seemlike she is scared to be a
little messy.
Be a little messy.
She's if Taylor, if you're outhere in the bathroom doing
(40:22):
anything bad.
SPEAKER_00 (40:25):
The way you're saying this.
SPEAKER_03 (40:28):
I would be worried that Charlie keep it.
SPEAKER_04 (40:32):
Watch her back.
SPEAKER_00 (40:32):
Watch her back.
SPEAKER_04 (40:33):
Might say something.
SPEAKER_00 (40:35):
Just watch her back.
SPEAKER_04 (40:38):
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
I'm scared for what she couldpossibly unearth.
SPEAKER_00 (40:44):
Who knows?
SPEAKER_04 (40:46):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (40:47):
Okay.
Um, oh, uh-list of the week.
SPEAKER_00 (40:50):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (40:51):
Which I almost forgot about.
SPEAKER_00 (40:53):
It's time you start out.
SPEAKER_04 (40:55):
It's time for A-List of the Week.
SPEAKER_00 (41:00):
Oh, I like that one.
SPEAKER_04 (41:01):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (41:02):
All right.
SPEAKER_04 (41:03):
You got one?
SPEAKER_00 (41:04):
Yes, I do.
The new show on Netflix comingof age series called Boots.
SPEAKER_04 (41:09):
Boots.
SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
It's a gay coming of age story based off of a memoir
called Pink Marine.
And it's about a gay kid thatjoins the Marines and it's like
his time in boot camp.
SPEAKER_03 (41:21):
Is this a true story?
Sorry.
A memoir, yes.
SPEAKER_00 (41:23):
It's a memoir made into a probably drama dramatized
TV show so far.
Riveting.
SPEAKER_03 (41:28):
I'm interested.
SPEAKER_00 (41:29):
It's a page in it.
SPEAKER_03 (41:30):
It is very serious.
SPEAKER_00 (41:33):
I'm called a dramedy.
But more on the more on thelighter side.
Like it's not heavy.
It's not like um hunting wiveskind of heavy.
It's got some depth to it, butit's my mainly just like a good
watch.
SPEAKER_04 (41:45):
Okay.
That actually sounded like a lotof.
SPEAKER_00 (41:49):
Not that those are fine too, but like it's like
watching, I guess, like LoveSimon.
SPEAKER_03 (41:53):
Okay.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (41:54):
Anyway, highly recommend.
And then also the VictoriaBeckham docus mini-series,
limited series, three episodesjust came out.
SPEAKER_03 (42:01):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (42:01):
We binged that as well.
SPEAKER_03 (42:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:03):
So fascinating.
SPEAKER_03 (42:04):
Yeah.
Like she needed her own aftershe was a star in Hit and
David's.
SPEAKER_00 (42:11):
Correct, yes.
And then to kind of get the fullunderstanding of how she like
really had to prove herself inthe fashion world is was really
fascinating.
Um an easy, good watch, Irecommend.
SPEAKER_03 (42:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (42:22):
That's my A-list of the week.
SPEAKER_03 (42:24):
Okay.
I do have to take a little bitof a side note because I feel
like when we do A-List of theWeek, I it always reminds me of
something and that I wanted tosay.
And when you talked about a newshow, I have to talk about the
Monsters Ed Geen story.
Have you watched any of this?
SPEAKER_00 (42:43):
Not yet, no.
SPEAKER_03 (42:44):
Okay.
I am so thoroughly disturbed.
I watched the first episode andlike I literally had a
nightmare.
And I don't know when the lasttime that has happened to me.
You you guys.
I am not recommending.
This is an unreccomendation.
SPEAKER_00 (43:02):
This is a but that's because Z list.
SPEAKER_03 (43:05):
Well, and everyone else in the world is like so
captivated by this show.
It's the it's a dramatization,it's a Ryan Murphy show, which
of course.
SPEAKER_00 (43:16):
Murp.
You already know.
SPEAKER_03 (43:18):
But he's I didn't know this was like a series he's
doing.
Um because the first Menendez.
The first one was Jeffrey Dahmerand then Menendez, and then now
he's doing the Ed Gean story,which Ed Gean, I hope I'm saying
that right.
Um, Guy and Gean is a prolificserial killer that characters
like um Psycho, Silence of theLambs, Leatherface are all kind
(43:43):
of made after this man.
And he liked to wear women'sskin.
He liked to decorate his homewith women with skin.
He exhumed their bodies.
He the whole psycho thing islike his like weird relationship
with his mother that and heliked to dress up in her
(44:07):
clothes, and like the openingscene.
SPEAKER_00 (44:09):
There's two like there's like is psycho the same
as Bates Motel.
SPEAKER_03 (44:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:13):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (44:14):
Yeah, where he's like wearing her clothes and
like sitting in the rockingchair, and like it's wild.
And this first episode, like, Itruly have not been disturbed by
something.
Really?
I don't know if it's just likeI'm getting older or what, but
like the opening scene, there'stwo like two opening scenes, I
guess.
There's like a cold open, andit's like him.
(44:36):
I guess, spoiler alert, he islike vacuuming with like a skin
face on, yeah, and just like inlike a dress or like a house
dress or something.
And I think it's like when theycome to arrest him because they
knock on the door and they'relike asking calling his name,
and he's like, Yes, he's gotthis like skin suit on, and it's
(45:00):
wild.
But then like the next opening,like I literally can't even say
it out loud.
I will tell you off screen, butlike that the first that scene
disturbed me in such a way thatlike I was like, the reason I
wanted to watch this show ingeneral is because one of my
friends is in episode four andAddison Ray is in it, and like
everyone's dying over her likeacting, and so I was like, I
(45:23):
want to like check it out.
Yeah, you guys, I don't know.
I just don't know what to say.
And uh I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (45:32):
I will probably watch it.
SPEAKER_03 (45:33):
Everyone is, and I just don't know if I'm just
becoming like an old lady,you're getting sensitive, yeah.
No, I like still enjoy a crimething, but I I really think that
when I tell you off screen likewhat was happening, like you
you're gonna understand why.
Yeah, but then I like looked himup on his Wikipedia to see his
(45:59):
crimes, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (46:01):
And like, let me just read a few hold for
children, hold for children.
SPEAKER_03 (46:09):
Yeah, there are some confirmed murders, but a lot of
what he was doing is exhumingbodies from their graves, and
then um taking off their skin todo things.
So let me tell you a few thingsthat he just made out of human
skin, you know.
Um a wastebasket.
SPEAKER_00 (46:31):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (46:32):
Um a lamp, right?
Covered several chairs.
SPEAKER_00 (46:36):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (46:37):
A lamp.
Um, some things I can't say outloud.
I can't say so many of thesethings out loud.
A belt made from a human bodypart that both men and women
have.
SPEAKER_00 (46:54):
If that on the chest area.
SPEAKER_03 (46:56):
On the chest area.
Uh a pair of lips on a windowshade drawstring.
Like what just like I can't evenlike comprehend.
And for real, like I've been, Idon't know the last time I've
had a nightmare, like somesomething like visually that I
saw on screen then show up in mydream as like a bad thing.
SPEAKER_01 (47:18):
Yeah, that's rough.
SPEAKER_03 (47:19):
Couldn't believe it.
So, anyway, that's that.
But my A-list of the week is alemon ricotta pancake that I
just had.
SPEAKER_00 (47:26):
What a transition.
SPEAKER_03 (47:29):
I just had it a few hours ago and for brunch, and it
was delish.
SPEAKER_00 (47:33):
Lemon ricotta, yum.
SPEAKER_03 (47:35):
Literally.
SPEAKER_00 (47:37):
We went from nipple belt to lemon ricotta so fast.
SPEAKER_04 (47:42):
Oh no.
Okay, well, let's talk about thebirthday.
Happy birthday to you.
SPEAKER_00 (47:50):
Okay, get it to me.
SPEAKER_04 (47:52):
Our dude, our boy Jimin is 30.
SPEAKER_00 (47:54):
Jimin finding our bisexual king is 30.
Unconfirmed.
He's seen, he's been seen in aFrench gay club making out with
a man.
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (48:03):
Wait, how do I not know this?
And how did you not tell me?
SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
I work with some of the biggest K-pop fans.
That is news that I needed toknow immediately.
So when they told me, I feellike you did already tell me
that.
Maybe it's just because my heartknew it was true.
SPEAKER_03 (48:16):
I know nothing about him in a French club.
SPEAKER_00 (48:18):
Allegedly, he was seen in a French, a gay French
club making out with a man.
Work.
Bisexual.
SPEAKER_03 (48:25):
You better get it.
Ashanti.
45.
I started watching their showand I had a great time watching
it.
I just like haven't beenwatching shows lately, other
than the that one.
SPEAKER_00 (48:37):
Skin wearing shows, right.
SPEAKER_03 (48:38):
Um AOC is 36.
SPEAKER_00 (48:41):
Oh wow, we're the same age.
SPEAKER_03 (48:43):
Yeah, she seems so much older than us.
SPEAKER_00 (48:45):
She's way smarter than me.
She's way more successful.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (48:50):
Yeah.
It's we're living differentlives.
Very different.
For sure.
Didn't realize we're the sameage.
SPEAKER_00 (48:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (48:54):
Kate Walsh.
SPEAKER_00 (48:56):
Who's that?
Oh my god.
Kate Walsh, of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gray's Anatomy.
SPEAKER_03 (49:00):
Gray's Anatomy, private practice.
So many things.
She's 58.
Sasha Barron Cohen.
SPEAKER_00 (49:09):
Fift or 48.
SPEAKER_03 (49:10):
54.
SPEAKER_00 (49:11):
54.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (49:12):
Marie Osmond.
SPEAKER_00 (49:14):
70.
SPEAKER_03 (49:16):
66.
SPEAKER_00 (49:17):
Sorry, Marie.
SPEAKER_03 (49:18):
Donnie might be older.
SPEAKER_00 (49:20):
Maybe.
SPEAKER_03 (49:21):
They're not twins, right?
SPEAKER_00 (49:22):
No.
Okay.
Just weirdly close.
SPEAKER_03 (49:24):
Nancy Kerrigan.
SPEAKER_00 (49:25):
How old?
SPEAKER_03 (49:26):
56.
SPEAKER_00 (49:27):
Oh wow.
Looks great.
SPEAKER_03 (49:29):
Yeah.
And then entertainment-wise, thenightmare before Christmas
premiered on this day in 1995.
93.
SPEAKER_00 (49:38):
We were just watching that earlier.
SPEAKER_03 (49:40):
I just realized I've actually never seen it.
SPEAKER_00 (49:43):
No, I've never seen it.
He puts it on.
I was like, I've never seenthis.
He was like, Ever?
SPEAKER_03 (49:46):
Literally ever.
SPEAKER_00 (49:46):
Today's the anniversary?
SPEAKER_03 (49:48):
Yeah.
That's pretty crazy.
The stars have aligned.
SPEAKER_00 (49:51):
They have.
SPEAKER_03 (49:52):
And I actually, like, when I was at Disney
recently, I decided that thisyear I'm going to make myself
watch it.
SPEAKER_00 (49:58):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (49:59):
So I'll report back.
SPEAKER_00 (50:01):
This is Halloween.
SPEAKER_03 (50:02):
Yes.
Uh the uh the show Jane theVirgin.
SPEAKER_00 (50:06):
I love that show.
SPEAKER_03 (50:07):
Premiered this day in 2014.
SPEAKER_00 (50:10):
Nope.
Sorry.
Confused it with Ugly Betty.
SPEAKER_03 (50:12):
Honestly, similar vibe.
I get that.
Yeah.
I've watched a little bit ofJane the Virgin.
SPEAKER_00 (50:16):
I didn't finish it, but I watched all of Ugly Betty
and I did like it.
I think same creator.
SPEAKER_03 (50:21):
Yeah.
Jane the Virgin is good.
It's not what I expected it tobe.
And then when I started, I waslike, oh, and now I get I get
the premise.
SPEAKER_01 (50:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (50:29):
But it doesn't Jane the Virgin star what's his name
that like is in the legal battlewith Ryan Reynolds and Blake
Lively right now.
I think he's the main guy.
What is his name?
No.
SPEAKER_00 (50:43):
Justin Baldanyi.
Doug Baldone?
Maybe it maybe it is, but helooks so different to me.
SPEAKER_03 (50:47):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's the main guy in Jane
the Virgin.
SPEAKER_00 (50:49):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_03 (50:50):
Again, I'm picturing ugly Betty.
So I don't know.
And then are you ready for this?
Your movie debut?
Well, not your movie debut.
SPEAKER_00 (50:59):
You bringing up Bobby?
SPEAKER_03 (51:02):
Bringing up Bobby.
No.
Sorry.
The Taylor Swift movie premieredon this day in 2023.
SPEAKER_00 (51:08):
Two years ago, today, my debut.
Your debut.
On the Taylor Swift Eras tourmovie.
SPEAKER_03 (51:12):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (51:13):
Wow, I can't believe that was two years ago.
That means I went to the showthree years ago.
SPEAKER_03 (51:16):
Yeah, it actually feels wild.
Weird.
And then a cultural reset in oursociety is the release in 2008
of the song Single Ladies.
SPEAKER_00 (51:28):
Vine.
Oh, right.
Single Ladies.
SPEAKER_03 (51:30):
What did you say?
What did you say?
SPEAKER_00 (51:31):
Little app called Vine.
SPEAKER_03 (51:32):
Oh.
No, I do think Single Ladieslike marks a cultural reset.
SPEAKER_00 (51:36):
I kind of agree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (51:38):
So yeah, that's that.
SPEAKER_00 (51:41):
Okay, well, that's thank you for those updates.
SPEAKER_03 (51:43):
And with so welcome.
SPEAKER_00 (51:44):
With that, and the fact that there's children
screaming outside my door.
We've got to wrap this shit up.
SPEAKER_03 (51:48):
And the fact that I'm going to fall asleep.
SPEAKER_00 (51:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (51:51):
And we have to edit this.
SPEAKER_00 (51:53):
Well, thank you so much, Allison.
And thank you, listeners andwatchers, viewers.
SPEAKER_03 (51:57):
Viewers, listeners, watchers.
SPEAKER_00 (51:59):
We love you.
Check out Gay and Trying thisFriday.
Thank you for your support.
We'll post links and sendingCaleb all the good vibes.
Well, and you guys, because youalso have to do the work.
SPEAKER_03 (52:08):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (52:09):
Love you so much.
SPEAKER_03 (52:10):
Bye.
Goodbye.
You said you just said something before we started
(00:01):
recording about staying off ofnews TikTok and for your mental
health.
And I deleted the TikTok app forlike four days last week.
SPEAKER_00 (00:11):
Oh my God.
SPEAKER_03 (00:12):
And wow, what it did for my mental health.
SPEAKER_00 (00:16):
It is wild on there.
Really scary.
SPEAKER_03 (00:18):
Yeah.
I recommend, if you can, liketake a couple days away.
Because like when I came back,also I feel like my algorithm
was less of that.
SPEAKER_00 (00:29):
So okay.
SPEAKER_03 (00:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (00:31):
Well, it was nothing but it's nothing but bad news
for me.
And weirdly, like Chris Browndances.
SPEAKER_04 (00:38):
You know what?
No.
SPEAKER_00 (00:41):
Which like it just causes me to believe that I can
do Chris Brown dances.
SPEAKER_04 (00:44):
You can.
I'm like, I feel like you can.
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Maybe with some practice.
SPEAKER_04 (01:04):
Welcome back to the A list Podcast with Allison and
Alex.
I'm Allison.
She's Alison.
SPEAKER_00 (01:09):
I did it the backwards way again.
Oh well.
SPEAKER_04 (01:11):
What did you say?
SPEAKER_00 (01:12):
Normally I we say our names at the same time.
SPEAKER_04 (01:14):
Yeah?
SPEAKER_00 (01:15):
This time we did opposites.
So we were opposite each other.
SPEAKER_04 (01:17):
Oh.
SPEAKER_00 (01:18):
It's fine.
Nothing happened.
It still worked.
SPEAKER_03 (01:21):
It did.
I'm tired today.
I just want to get that out inthe open.
SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
Alex is too.
SPEAKER_03 (01:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:26):
We're recording the day before this episode comes
out.
SPEAKER_03 (01:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:29):
So this is fresh news, guys.
SPEAKER_03 (01:32):
I don't even have any news.
I guess I should could pull upsomething newsworthy.
SPEAKER_00 (01:36):
Great news, pop culture, fun news.
Well, we have Taylor's album.
We already talked about that.
SPEAKER_03 (01:40):
We already talked about that.
SPEAKER_00 (01:41):
Still fresh, I guess.
SPEAKER_03 (01:44):
Well, you just got back from another trip.
Tell us about it.
Tell us about it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
I got back from Mexico yesterday, two days ago.
And it was humid.
Let me tell you.
It was my first timeexperiencing that that kind of
weather with long hair.
SPEAKER_03 (01:59):
Oh yeah, I don't think I've ever been to Mexico
at this time of year.
SPEAKER_00 (02:04):
It was humid.
Straightening my hair didthere's no point.
It's crazy out there.
SPEAKER_03 (02:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (02:10):
I don't have a curly hair look, so it was just up a
lot.
SPEAKER_03 (02:12):
Oh yeah, because your um perm is gone.
SPEAKER_00 (02:16):
My perm is gone, and back to having like what do you
call like kinky brown hair.
SPEAKER_03 (02:23):
I keep getting an ad, speaking of that, for some
hair product.
I think it's a color wow hairproduct.
I don't know.
The girl's just always like,does your hair look like this
when you air dry it?
And then it's like, you probablyhave this type of curly hair.
And then she like uses theproduct, and then it is like you
(02:47):
just need to, you know, knowwhat products to use for your
curly hair.
And then her hair is like bouncycurl or like wavy bouncy.
Okay.
And I'm like, maybe that is myhair type.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (02:59):
Maybe it's mine.
But I am about to exit this era.
SPEAKER_03 (03:01):
Are you cutting it off?
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
I am, I think I'm ready for short again.
SPEAKER_03 (03:06):
Any specific like style, like a new style cut or
like a style you've done before?
SPEAKER_00 (03:11):
I think a style I've done before, just miss being
able to do things with it.
Like once you your hair getslong, it's like cool, but you
can really do two things wear itdown or wear it up.
SPEAKER_03 (03:19):
Yeah, but if it's short, like you can't even do
anything else.
SPEAKER_00 (03:22):
No, that's not true.
Like I you I do my hair amillion different ways when it's
short.
Bangs up, bangs down, swoop tothe side, slick back, messy,
texture.
SPEAKER_03 (03:32):
But that's I feel like I guess I was picturing
like really short.
That you're talking like amedium cut.
SPEAKER_00 (03:37):
Yeah, I'm talking about like what my hair,
probably around the length ofwhen we went to see when we went
to swallow.
SPEAKER_03 (03:43):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (03:44):
Like that.
Bangs up.
SPEAKER_03 (03:45):
That's very specific for the listeners, but just know
that it's um it's a good look.
SPEAKER_00 (03:51):
I haven't had it in like three years.
I've been growing my hair outfor over two years.
SPEAKER_03 (03:56):
Oh my gosh, time flies, huh?
SPEAKER_00 (03:58):
Sure do.
SPEAKER_03 (03:59):
My hair does ow.
Something hurt me and I don'tknow what.
SPEAKER_00 (04:04):
Like a nerve zing.
SPEAKER_03 (04:05):
Maybe.
I sometimes I feel like my hairfeels like it's grown a lot.
And then sometimes I look at itand I'm like, but it doesn't
look that long.
Like it's like it's a weirdthing.
SPEAKER_00 (04:17):
Allison has definitely grown from the bob.
SPEAKER_03 (04:19):
Yeah, my hair, I think it was just like so short.
SPEAKER_00 (04:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (04:23):
That it doesn't feel like it, but I don't know,
sometimes it does, I don't know.
Well riveting stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (04:29):
Yeah.
Anyway, so yeah, there was a lotof humidity.
It was a great time.
Boyfriend's 40th birthday wasthe purpose of the trip.
He had a great birthdaysurrounded by his loved ones.
And we had one, it was kind ofperfect.
We did we had two full days.
So it was like the first fullday was bright, sunny, hot pool
day.
That's why my forehead's all redand I'm burnt.
(04:49):
Day two was overcast and humid.
So we got a full pool day andthen we got like a lounge fun
day.
SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
Okay.
Wait, were you by the ocean oror yeah, right on the ocean.
Okay.
So did you go to the ocean oryou just went to the beach?
SPEAKER_00 (05:01):
Yeah, like from the hotel, the beach access from the
hotel.
But here's my gripe.
So I was working while I wasthere still, so I had to take
both my computers.
When you go to Mexico, you guys,at least to Cabo, you press a
button when you get there, andeither it goes green or it goes
red.
If it goes green, you move on.
If it goes red, which is random,then you send your bag through
(05:23):
this thing and you get searched.
Of course that happens to me.
Like if it's gonna happen toanyone, it will be me.
And it did.
So they send my stuff through.
Comes out and he goes, Do youhave a laptop?
I said, Yeah.
He goes, Two?
I said, Yeah.
He goes, Come with me.
So you can only take one laptopinto Mexico.
So I got detained, taken to aroom.
(05:43):
They looked up the serial numberof my second, my work laptop,
and based on the value of thatcomputer, charged me a fee of
$450.
No to keep it with me, or Icould throw it away.
SPEAKER_03 (05:56):
So So either no, you don't have to pay anything, you
throw it away, throw it away iscrazy.
Or you pay$450.
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
There was no other like kind of way out.
SPEAKER_03 (06:06):
What's the rule?
What's the law here?
SPEAKER_00 (06:08):
But then he he took my like the immigration
paperwork that you sign orwhatever.
The like when you go to Mexico,you have to fill out a piece of
paper, a declaration.
And he underlined where it saysonly one personal or one laptop
per non-Mexican citizen.
SPEAKER_01 (06:22):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (06:23):
So I just paid$450 to get into the country.
SPEAKER_04 (06:26):
That's insane.
SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
Then of course I get detained on my way back because
my lotion bottle was 3.5 ounces.
SPEAKER_03 (06:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:35):
But not before she pulled out all of my sex toys.
Basically.
And it was like she was like,you repack this?
I was like, yeah, I will.
Thank you.
Anyway, so that sucks.
Other than that, though, we gotvery lucky with airplanes.
Like his sister joined us.
Her plane was severely delayed,and she was just flying from
(06:55):
Sacramento.
Like she wasn't even flying fromsuper far.
And then on the way back, andeveryone got delayed except us.
SPEAKER_03 (07:03):
Because of the government shutdown?
SPEAKER_00 (07:05):
I think, yeah, the TSA is and and maybe because we
didn't have a connecting flightand it was direct, it had
something to do with it, but uhmade it a little easier.
But regardless, I'm grateful wemade it in and out, had a really
nice time, and now it's back toreality because this Friday Gay
and Trying premieres on BuzzFeedvideo, you guys.
SPEAKER_03 (07:24):
It's very exciting.
SPEAKER_00 (07:25):
Tune in this Friday.
SPEAKER_03 (07:27):
It feels like it's been so long.
SPEAKER_00 (07:28):
I because it has.
Literally since like what,April?
SPEAKER_03 (07:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
So yeah, anyway, guys, tune in, gay and trying.
Our first pilot episode comesout.
SPEAKER_03 (07:40):
Yeah, next week we'll have things linked in case
that we can't in this one.
But if you're not following Alexon all of his socials and
Buzzfeed, follow so you can seethe kind of shenanigans I get
into being gay and tryingthings.
SPEAKER_00 (07:56):
I also want to send an apology to anyone who listens
to our podcast on Spotify.
That you will notice it stillhas not updated, and I looked
into this.
So basically, like the cue thatSpotify uses to update podcasts
is very delayed.
And the only thing that BuzzSprout can figure is that it
(08:17):
they think it will update when Iwe upload our next episode.
It'll like spark in their queuebecause the alternative is to
take it down, but but it won'timmediately come down.
And if we try to re-upload withthe same information, that
Spotify could flag that as aduplicate episode and then not
allow it to.
So, like of our options, thebetter is to just leave it for
now.
SPEAKER_04 (08:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:37):
If it does not update, go listen on any other
platform.
But if Spotify is all you have,if it doesn't update, I will
take it down next week.
SPEAKER_04 (08:45):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (08:45):
Wait till it's gone and then re-upload that episode
and just throw it back in place.
SPEAKER_03 (08:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you guys don't know, theSpotify, like there was a glitch
or there's a corrupt file and itcut it off after 33 minutes.
And we've tried he's triedmultiple times to fix that.
SPEAKER_00 (09:00):
He was able to fix it on everything else.
SPEAKER_03 (09:02):
But yeah, Apple's Apple's good, YouTube's good.
SPEAKER_00 (09:05):
Directly from our site, our website must probably
is good.
Google Podcasts is good.
They're all good.
SPEAKER_03 (09:11):
But thank you to the person that flagged it because
since I I myself don't useSpotify per podcasts, I wasn't
aware.
SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
So Heather also, she was like, why does it stop after
33 minutes?
SPEAKER_03 (09:22):
Yeah, it just like cuts off.
SPEAKER_00 (09:23):
I'm so sorry, everyone.
SPEAKER_03 (09:24):
So sorry.
SPEAKER_00 (09:25):
Um we'll keep we'll keep an eye on that.
But yes, that's I think that'sall my updates.
SPEAKER_03 (09:31):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (09:31):
Time for sports corner.
SPEAKER_03 (09:33):
I have a few things before Oh, really?
Well, I didn't even there's noSports Corner because I didn't
play this week because I felt soill.
SPEAKER_02 (09:43):
Why?
How?
SPEAKER_03 (09:44):
Okay, so to rewind, now that it is all the
information is out, Caleb hasposted a blog.
We've had a member hangout wherewe explained everything.
I can talk about the reason thatwe've been.
I don't know if I I said this inthe last one.
We're pre-shooting a lot ofcontent.
I just didn't say why.
(10:04):
Um, pre-recording 12 YouTubevideos, a couple of um uh dance
live streams pre-recordedbecause Caleb found out through
his MRI that he tore completelytore his ACL.
And we've been working the pastthree weeks to uh get content
(10:26):
done because he's having surgeryum on like I think the 30th of
October.
And we are frantically trying toget as much um content as we can
done because he'll be down.
He'll be out of commission umfor a week or two, a week or so
(10:47):
um just like from the surgery,and then his doctor told him he
can pretty much immediately sitin a chair and instruct and talk
and whatever.
Um and he'll have a brace andstuff on.
Um he just won't be able todance at full capacity for nine
months to a year, basically.
So we we wanted our like YouTubebooty army members to not have a
(11:12):
lapse in content um just in casesomething there's a complication
in the surgery, and it doesactually take longer for him to
come back to even sitting.
So that has been a mucho tiringsituation.
SPEAKER_00 (11:32):
Are you just pre-recording, like
pre-recording all of themountain videos and then
pre-recording some live stream?
Because you'll jump back inprobably.
SPEAKER_03 (11:39):
Yeah, got it.
SPEAKER_00 (11:40):
Just to give him some cushion.
SPEAKER_03 (11:41):
Yeah, the information from the doctor was
that he can pretty muchimmediately go back.
So we wanted to have like a aweek or so or a couple weeks of
um live streams.
Ready to go, yeah.
Pretty much two weeks, I think.
Okay.
So but we've been basically likeour schedule's been one day
(12:06):
meeting up, yeah, coming up withchoreography for a couple songs,
immediately going to the parkand recording them, and then the
next day having a live stream,some days before the live stream
meeting, doing morechoreography, doing social
content, and then the next daymeeting up again, finishing
(12:28):
choreography that maybe wasn'tdone, shooting again, then
meeting, then the next daypre-recording something, a live
stream.
And maybe we've had like anafternoon off or a morning off,
but in the last three weeks,that's it's been every day.
SPEAKER_02 (12:47):
Got it.
SPEAKER_03 (12:48):
And I think it's it's not like obviously like a
lot of people work every like goto work every day, and it's not
like our work isn't every day.
We just don't normally it's uhwe're not on camera every day.
Yes, we're not on camera everyday.
It's it's mainly a couple days aweek on camera and then the rest
(13:09):
of the days editing and thatkind of thing, right?
And so I think it's beenmentally exhausting to like be
on like a personality, yeah, andthen also trying to come up with
um choreography that is likeexciting and not repetitive to
do, which we've all I I actuallylike, the dances we've done
(13:31):
recently like are some of myfavorite.
I think some there's somethingabout us coming in cold with
nothing and collaborating thethree of us, because it
historically Caleb has kind ofpicked a song or we've been
asked to do a song by a recordlabel, yeah.
And he's kind of come up withlike bones of a song, and then
(13:54):
Haley and I will have come inand fixed things.
Give it the old razzle dazzle,yeah.
Fix things, been like, oh, wedon't think this this part
works, like that just kind oflike tweaked, yeah.
But the three of us kind ofworking together collaboratively
has actually been, I think, likemade us have like more
(14:16):
interesting dances.
So I've enjoyed them, but it islike just like had been has been
mentally exhausting.
SPEAKER_01 (14:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (14:24):
And then also on top of that, like I don't sleep well
in any way.
SPEAKER_02 (14:29):
Oh right.
SPEAKER_03 (14:30):
In general, so yeah, so I've just like kind of gotten
behind.
I the other day I took amelatonin, yeah, and I didn't
have to do anything until later,and I literally slept until 11.
SPEAKER_00 (14:45):
I don't think I went to bed until like after
midnight, but so still at leastnine to ten hours.
Yeah, god dang.
SPEAKER_03 (14:52):
I know.
So yeah, that's been happening.
SPEAKER_00 (14:55):
And if you're do you have any more videos to shoot on
the mountain?
Okay, not done.
Yeah, no, we're not done.
SPEAKER_03 (15:00):
I think we have three, four more.
SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
Okay, well, that's less than I thought.
SPEAKER_03 (15:05):
Yeah, we've You're over halfway.
Yeah, we've been reallycranking.
SPEAKER_00 (15:08):
Because I imagine he's gonna have to start like
getting prepped for surgery.
SPEAKER_03 (15:12):
He is like he's already doing physical therapy.
They told him that it's reallyit helped him that he didn't
stop moving and working out,like he was still going to
berries, which is wild.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
But they Because it didn't allow it to like heal or
stiffen up or anything.
SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
Yeah, stiffen up.
Um, because basically, beforeyou do ACL surgery, they want
you to your quad to be as strongas it possibly can because it's
gonna atrophy so much.
And um, that hinders yourrecovery a little bit if once
the surgery is done and you caneventually start moving on it if
(15:50):
the muscles have deteriorateddeteriorated so much.
So they're they're actually likeif people have that injury and
then they just like go to notmoving, sitting and trying to
like rest it quote for a periodof time before they go get it
checked out, that usually is totheir detriment.
(16:10):
And because he didn't do that,they that actually helped him a
little bit.
So he's already been going tophysical therapy and still
working out.
Okay, it's just like certainmovements remind him that he
basically has nothing likeholding his knee together.
SPEAKER_02 (16:28):
Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (16:29):
It's a weird thing.
Like, I've I would assume if youhad that injury, like you can't
do yeah, you can't even walk.
And I guess that's not the case.
I don't know.
Cause I'm used to seeing likebasketball players or someone
like that.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah.
So that's been happening.
Damn.
What else was I going to updateon?
SPEAKER_00 (16:52):
Well, you didn't play.
SPEAKER_03 (16:54):
Oh, I didn't.
Oh yeah, because when uhWednesday we had the yeah, we
were just like choreographingsongs.
And I I don't know, I think I Iwoke up and we had the day
before had done a couple,choreographed a couple songs,
had a live stream, and then Iwoke up the next day and I had
(17:17):
oh I when I went to sleep, I hada headache.
And then I woke up and theheadache was still there.
SPEAKER_02 (17:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (17:23):
And I was like worried that I was getting sick.
Like, I don't know.
And then I was like supernauseous.
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:32):
And I was like, oh no, I feel like I'm getting like
the flu or something.
Like, what what else would makeyou nauseous?
Kind of have like stomachissues, like bathroom issues,
and then also have a headache.
And like, I I thought I alwaysthink I have a fever.
Right.
I didn't took my temperature, itwas 98.
Yeah, like it was as normal asit could possibly be.
(17:52):
But for a while I was like, Oh,I'm warm.
I have a fever.
SPEAKER_02 (17:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
And I was like, oh no, I have the flu, but I we had
to shoot videos still.
We had to shoot literally three.
And the third one, I don't evenknow if it's usable because it
was so dark.
Like, oh shit, it the sun wasgoing, yeah.
Caleb bless his heart was justlike messing up the same section
(18:15):
over and over, just because Ithink he wasn't like he was
probably at his wits' end too.
Sure.
And yeah, I just like I messagedthe group and I was like, you
guys, I and so many peopleweren't gonna be there, and I
was like, I'm gonna have to go.
And I was like, hey guys, do wehave enough that like you can do
(18:38):
without me?
Because I feel so bad.
And they were like, Yeah,totally.
So there's no sports cornerbecause I didn't play.
Okay, but I did remember the onething I do need to update you
on.
Yes, and I just put out a vlogyesterday, which is today when
we're recording, um that talksabout a little bit of health.
(19:00):
I haven't even talked to youbecause you've gone a little bit
of health stuff, and that is onThursday I went to the
dermatologist and had to have abiopsy done on a spot on my head
right here.
And I don't know what'shappening with it, but I
obviously have health anxietyand I am a hypochondriac, and I
(19:22):
am not doing well with that.
Oh my god.
Um in the vlog I I went in depthon it, but the TLDR is I've had
like a spot on my head that Iwas worried about, but I tried
to do the exact opposite of whatI always do and not freak out
and not Google and like panicabout it.
And I didn't really tell anyone.
(19:44):
I was just like, I already hadthis um standing appointment
because it has become a yearlything just to get a full body
check.
I did it last year.
So I already had thisappointment and I was like,
okay, I'm just gonna ask aboutit when I go.
And then I was so sure that Iwould go and be like, they
should be like, oh, it'snothing.
(20:04):
Because when I freak out aboutthings, it's never actually been
right the thing that I think itis.
And she looks at it.
I told her I was, she was like,Do you have any like concerns or
concern areas?
And I told her, and she looks atit under her like microscope
thing, and she was basicallylike, Yeah, I think I think I
(20:26):
want to biopsy this.
She was kind of silent for asecond, which didn't love.
Um, and then naturally I freakedout and cried, and she was not
ready for that, I guess.
Cause she was like, What are youlike what's wrong?
Yeah, I was like, sorry, I haveI'm like, I have a lot of health
anxiety, like I'm kind offreaking out right now.
And she was like, Well, what'syour concern?
(20:47):
And I would, I was, I wanted tobe like, I don't know that I
have cancer, but yeah, I won'tknow for a couple weeks, but
that's something that isstressing me out.
SPEAKER_00 (20:58):
What is it exactly a mole?
SPEAKER_03 (21:00):
I don't know.
It's like some this like thing,it's it's kind of almost gone
because the biopsy, she like dugit out of me.
There is like still some left.
So if it is something that needsto be removed more, I think I
would have to go back and havethe rest of it.
But wait, what was yourquestion?
Oh, it was just like to me, itjust felt like a scab, but it
wasn't going away.
(21:20):
Yeah, and I I don't know, I justlike I had a feeling that I just
needed to ask about it.
So yeah, I don't know.
Keep us posted.
SPEAKER_00 (21:34):
Anxiety health corner, geez.
SPEAKER_03 (21:36):
Yeah.
I yapped about it for a longtime in my vlog, so you can go
check that out watch that.
But I think that that's oh, Iwent, Josh and I went to the
Getty Museum.
Oh yeah, how was that?
I've still never been.
You haven't?
You've been here for so long.
Actually, he hadn't either, andI think you guys have been here
for like pretty much the sameamount of time.
SPEAKER_00 (21:54):
But I also haven't been to Tar pits, none of that.
SPEAKER_03 (21:58):
Well, they're not equal.
SPEAKER_00 (22:00):
You're right.
SPEAKER_03 (22:00):
I haven't been to LACMA, like the actual museum
part of it.
He had been to the Getty Villa,which I guess is in Malibu.
It's like I kept calling himJPG, John Paul Getty, I think is
his name, or John Peter.
I don't know.
That was his home, isn't it wasin Malibu.
Okay.
This is the gallery that hepurchased.
It's just an artist.
SPEAKER_00 (22:20):
Do you actually take a tram up?
SPEAKER_03 (22:22):
Yeah, it's really cute.
Yeah.
Um, it was beautiful.
SPEAKER_00 (22:26):
It's free, isn't it?
SPEAKER_03 (22:27):
On Sundays, I believe.
SPEAKER_00 (22:28):
Oh, okay.
I don't know if it's free everyday.
So it was free for you.
SPEAKER_03 (22:31):
It was free.
You just have to reserve a time,but just because I think they
want to make sure there's notlike a million people at the
exact same time.
But I had a great time.
It was lovely.
SPEAKER_00 (22:42):
Lots of art, lots of history.
SPEAKER_03 (22:44):
Lots of art, lots of history.
SPEAKER_00 (22:46):
You love history.
SPEAKER_03 (22:47):
I do.
SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:49):
Yeah, there was some.
I mean, so it towards the end,we kind of were like, all right,
we're getting a little because Ithink our time was at a we got
there at 11, probably like fromthe tram, parking tram to and
walking in is probably like 1120by the time we actually got
there.
And we left at 2:30.
(23:10):
So it was we were there for aminute.
Yeah.
But it was really pretty, had agood time.
Cute.
Oh, the other thing I need toupdate on is that I have
completed the next the end ofthe trilogy of Star Wars of the
70s, 70s, 80s trilogy.
And I will say four, five, andsix.
(23:34):
I loved Six.
Very good.
Had a great time with that one.
SPEAKER_00 (23:38):
What's that one called?
SPEAKER_03 (23:39):
No idea.
SPEAKER_00 (23:41):
Good job.
SPEAKER_03 (23:42):
Uh, what I will say is I have felt validated in my
choice to watch in chronologicalorder because I do think that me
doing that made the ending ofSix like hit harder.
SPEAKER_00 (23:55):
Because of the new ho the new holograms?
SPEAKER_03 (23:59):
Like Hayden Christensen was imposed as yes
Dark.
I I forgot he told me that thatwas new.
Um yeah, I just think like theit made the emotions of it more
real because I have seen, I haveseen um what's his name?
Yes.
Little guy.
SPEAKER_02 (24:21):
Yoda.
SPEAKER_03 (24:22):
Yoda.
When he spoiled alert dies,yeah.
I like had seen, you know, youngspry him like kick an ass.
SPEAKER_00 (24:30):
Kick an ass.
Take it.
SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
And then yes, the Hayden Christensen of it and the
Darth like kind of having aheart.
SPEAKER_01 (24:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (24:41):
I I thought it hit harder for me, I will say.
So I felt good about my choice.
SPEAKER_00 (24:47):
So now you're on to eight, nine, and ten.
SPEAKER_03 (24:48):
Now I'm on eight, nine and ten, where we have Ray,
which I'm so familiar with fromthe ride.
SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
From Disney, yes, of course.
SPEAKER_03 (24:55):
But do you know her relation to anyone?
No way.
SPEAKER_00 (24:58):
Oh, then you're gonna love it.
It's really nice.
SPEAKER_03 (25:00):
Yeah, I have no context other than the
characters we s see going intothe ride.
I know what's her um little guy?
SPEAKER_00 (25:10):
B B B B B eight eight.
SPEAKER_03 (25:12):
BB eight.
SPEAKER_00 (25:13):
B88.
BB8.
SPEAKER_03 (25:14):
B B eight.
SPEAKER_00 (25:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
B88?
SPEAKER_03 (25:18):
No, BB8, I think.
SPEAKER_00 (25:19):
B B.
SPEAKER_03 (25:20):
There's two eights.
SPEAKER_00 (25:22):
Isn't there?
SPEAKER_03 (25:23):
No.
But I'm gonna look.
SPEAKER_00 (25:25):
B8 B eight?
SPEAKER_03 (25:26):
No, I think it's just BB8.
Yeah, BB-8.
SPEAKER_00 (25:29):
BB8.
I knew it.
SPEAKER_03 (25:32):
I knew it.
Um, but yeah, I just wanted toupdate everyone on that.
And to say if you feel like youwant to watch it in
chronological order, you should.
SPEAKER_00 (25:41):
You're heard it here first.
SPEAKER_03 (25:43):
And don't let anyone talk you out of it.
SPEAKER_00 (25:45):
Seriously.
SPEAKER_03 (25:48):
Oh, I don't know if you saw this, but a re an arrest
has been made for the person whostarted the fire that led to the
Palisades fire.
SPEAKER_00 (25:54):
I saw that, and he's from Florida.
Florida.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:58):
Yeah.
If you guys haven't seen this,this might just have only hit
California.
But um an arrest has been madein the person who lit the fire
that then led to the Palisadesfire.
So they didn't start thePalisades fire per se.
Twenty-nine-year-old former Uberdriver arrested in connection
with um the fire.
(26:18):
And it says that authoritiesallege that Jonathan Rindernecht
maliciously set the fire, whichkilled a dozen people.
It was fully contained January31st, which how wild that that
was that long ago.
SPEAKER_01 (26:35):
I know.
SPEAKER_03 (26:36):
Oh man.
Um Rinderneck was arrestedTuesday near his home in Florida
on a charge of destruction ofproperty by means of fire.
SPEAKER_00 (26:43):
Wait, January what?
SPEAKER_03 (26:44):
31st.
It was so many weeks.
It was like at least two weeksof straight up.
SPEAKER_00 (26:52):
Started it on January 31st.
SPEAKER_03 (26:54):
It was contained on the 31st.
SPEAKER_00 (26:55):
Oh, I was gonna say, I thought it was like mostly all
of January.
SPEAKER_03 (26:57):
It was, yeah.
Um It doesn't have the datehere.
It says fire in January, but itsays contained on the 31st.
I think it was at least twoweeks.
SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (27:06):
Of straight up beyond be on deck to evacuate.
SPEAKER_00 (27:11):
Do you ever stop and think about that sometimes and
how fucking terrifying it was?
SPEAKER_03 (27:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:15):
And like seeing it was just crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (27:17):
Yeah, because it felt like it felt like a movie
that I've seen.
Like it felt like we lived askyline burn was crazy.
No, I don't think in all of mylife I will forget driving down
the 101, seeing the fire startto come over our side of the
mountain.
(27:38):
Called up Josh.
I was like, hey, I see the fire.
And he was like, he was like,yeah, I think we should go,
like, go home.
I was like, I just got out of adance class.
Like, I need to take a shower.
And he was like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:50):
Pot of parade to your house.
SPEAKER_03 (27:51):
Shower, change, and then we'll leave.
And then I'm in the shower andhe runs into my apartment, like
bangs on the shower, thebathroom door, like, get out,
we're going now.
And I was like, what happened tothe like calmness that you just
had, being like, Yeah, we'regonna go just like get because
we'd already had our cars packedfor like a week to go.
SPEAKER_01 (28:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (28:14):
So all I needed to do was get dressed and like grab
like my purse and computer andstuff like that.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (28:20):
And it that was so jarring.
I think I think his urgency wasmore of traffic than the fire.
SPEAKER_00 (28:29):
Which that makes sense.
SPEAKER_03 (28:30):
Yeah, I will like never forget that.
It felt like a movie.
Yeah.
But it says authorities said thePalisades fire was a holdover
fire or a continuation of theLackman fire, which Rinderneck
is alleged to have started onNew Year's Day.
SPEAKER_00 (28:43):
So my God, January 1st to January 31st.
SPEAKER_03 (28:46):
Yes, but I don't think it I think it took a few
days because they're saying theysuppressed that that fire, but
did not know that it continuedto smolder and burned
underground.
And so on January 7th, as heavywinds swept through the area,
the fire began to surface andspread, becoming this Palisades
fire.
SPEAKER_00 (29:02):
And Newsflash, we get these winds every January.
SPEAKER_03 (29:05):
The Santa Ana winds.
I never knew what that meant,but now I do.
Um, and it said he previouslylived in the Palisades
neighborhood, had just finishedworking as an Uber driver when
he started the Blaze, accordingto the complaint.
Two passengers had picked up andtold investigators that
Rinderneck appeared agitated andangry.
(29:27):
They told the news that he wasimmediately removed from
accessing the platform afterokay, yeah, he does not Uber
driver, but where did I see?
Says authorities alleged thatafter he dropped off a passenger
and Pacific Palisades,Rinderneck drove towards the
Skull Rock Trailhead, tried tocontact a former friend, and
then walked up the trail.
(29:48):
He took photos on his cell phoneand listened to a song by a
French artist whose music videoincluded thing things being lit
on fire.
Authorities said that aroundeleven forty seven p.m.
he took two videos on top of thehill.
And no fires were visible,according to that um complaint.
Around 12, 12 a.m.
on January 1st, sensorsindicated a fire in the area.
It says that he, Renderneck,tried to call 911 several times,
(30:11):
but could not get throughbecause of his cell phone.
It was out of range.
Um, but he eventually was ableto reach the 911 operator and
report the fire.
So he started the fire and thentried to report it.
So he didn't seem like he was asuspect.
SPEAKER_02 (30:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (30:26):
And then he fled the scene, but then he circled
around and followed thefirefighters up and then took a
video of the firefighters.
So I don't know, but he'sinterested, so we'll see what
happens.
But I guess like it feels likethey must feel like they've
(30:48):
investigated enough of him tohave enough on him to announce
and arrest.
SPEAKER_00 (30:54):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:55):
Cause it's like it's been so long that it feels like
they m had to have like beenreally looking into him.
Right.
But I don't know.
That's actually like a good uh agood button on it because we for
so long didn't know.
SPEAKER_00 (31:12):
We were like, We knew about one of them.
SPEAKER_03 (31:15):
The one uh Southern California Edison started.
I don't know this.
SPEAKER_00 (31:21):
The there was the Palisades fire, and then there
was the what was it called?
The other huge one.
SPEAKER_03 (31:29):
The one on the east, kind of by Pasadena?
SPEAKER_00 (31:32):
Eaton.
Was it called the Eaton Fire?
SPEAKER_03 (31:34):
There was there was there was so many of them.
The Eaton Fire was kind ofnorth.
That was like north of thevalley.
SPEAKER_00 (31:41):
The one Altadena was the one east, like by whatever
the the biggest one was thePalisades, the whatever the next
biggest one was was SouthernCalifornia Edison electrical
fire started.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
Okay, that was the one kind of Pasadena area,
Altadena.
SPEAKER_00 (31:56):
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_03 (31:57):
I didn't know that.
Just an electrical fire.
SPEAKER_00 (32:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:01):
That's really unfortunate that both things
were happening, and then boththe winds were taking both of
those fires and spreading iteverywhere.
Because at the time it was every10 minutes, I feel like we there
was a notification on ourphones, like a new fire popped
up over here, a new fire poppedup over there.
SPEAKER_00 (32:19):
We even had that one in the runyon fire pop up for
like 13 hours.
SPEAKER_03 (32:22):
Yeah.
Santa Clarita.
Yeah.
Like, how was how was it gettingall the way up there?
SPEAKER_00 (32:27):
Because the embers were flying through the air.
SPEAKER_03 (32:29):
How did they stay lit so long?
I don't understand.
Like, truly there is someconspiracies, but that people
like were starting them afterall the other ones were in.
Well, why?
SPEAKER_00 (32:38):
Burn the Rich, even though the Palisades was
generational stuff.
Yeah.
Whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (32:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:44):
So we'll see.
SPEAKER_03 (32:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:48):
Also, other sad pop culture news.
SPEAKER_03 (32:50):
Diane Keaton.
SPEAKER_00 (32:51):
We lost Diane Keaton.
And that is a bummer.
SPEAKER_03 (32:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:55):
So I want to know how, because she was last like I
was looking at like last timeshe was seen in public.
She's so lively.
SPEAKER_03 (33:00):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of what movie, like to me,
like I associate with her.
SPEAKER_00 (33:08):
Right now, Chad is up there watching Mad Money.
SPEAKER_03 (33:11):
I don't think I've seen that.
SPEAKER_00 (33:12):
With um Queen Latifa and Katie Holmes.
SPEAKER_03 (33:17):
I don't think I've seen that.
I didn't see that.
SPEAKER_00 (33:20):
Mine would be Father of the Bride.
SPEAKER_03 (33:22):
Yes.
I was trying to think like why Icouldn't.
SPEAKER_00 (33:25):
Mine would be Father of the Bride and maybe um she's
one where she's a therapist toMandy Moore's her daughter.
SPEAKER_03 (33:31):
Because I said so.
Because I said so, yeah.
Something's gotta give ispretty.
SPEAKER_00 (33:36):
First Wives Club.
That's a good one.
SPEAKER_03 (33:40):
I'm trying to go back.
SPEAKER_00 (33:42):
Something's gotta give, yeah.
That's that is a big one.
SPEAKER_03 (33:44):
Yeah, Father of the Bride is probably my what I
would associate with her themost.
Because I said so.
Morning glory.
SPEAKER_00 (33:59):
Oh, that's a good one.
The news one.
SPEAKER_03 (34:03):
I don't think I saw most of these like newish ones.
I know the book club ones werelike recent-ish.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (34:14):
Well, it's the bummer.
SPEAKER_03 (34:17):
Yeah, I wonder.
It didn't there hasn't been any.
Yeah.
I wonder it must might have beencancer or something.
Cause like I don't know.
(34:37):
Obviously, if it's late stage,it can move quickly very fast,
especially what kind.
But that is sad.
SPEAKER_01 (34:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (34:47):
And an iconic head of hair.
Iconic.
Literally.
So healthy.
Wow.
I'm just like looking atpictures and I'm like, what a
what gray hair you have.
I feel like some who someoneelse passed away late recently,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (35:06):
Really?
SPEAKER_03 (35:08):
I thought so.
Jane Goodall.
SPEAKER_00 (35:11):
Yes.
Jane Goodall.
SPEAKER_03 (35:15):
Our is she considered a scientist?
Hold on.
Actually, I don't want to soundstupid.
SPEAKER_00 (35:24):
Humanitarian.
SPEAKER_03 (35:26):
English primatologist and
anthropologist.
You don't hear anthropologists.
SPEAKER_00 (35:30):
You don't hear primatologists often either.
SPEAKER_03 (35:33):
That's true.
Yeah, known for her work um withthe apes.
Yeah, the world's preeminentchimpanzee expert.
Looks like a sweet lady.
SPEAKER_00 (35:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:47):
She British?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:49):
Also, we almost had scary news about Dolly Parton.
Did you see all of that?
I know.
SPEAKER_03 (35:52):
Her sister.
SPEAKER_00 (35:53):
Like sister cool it.
It's kidney stones.
SPEAKER_03 (35:55):
She's like, pray, pray for my sister.
SPEAKER_00 (35:58):
I was like, oh night.
SPEAKER_03 (36:00):
Everyone thought she is she's going.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:03):
She's like, I'm not dead yet.
SPEAKER_03 (36:05):
Kidney stones.
Which I've never had a kidneystone.
You have.
Maybe you feel like you'redying.
SPEAKER_00 (36:09):
I mean, you do.
It's pretty awful, but it's not,you know, unless unless there's
a bad infection they can't get ahandle on, which I suppose in
her older age, maybe, but kidneystones, not heart failure.
SPEAKER_03 (36:20):
Imminent death.
Um, I did come across somethingI thought you might find
interesting because I feel likewe've had this conversation many
a time.
SPEAKER_01 (36:28):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (36:28):
And it is the sample versus interpolation saga.
SPEAKER_02 (36:33):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03 (36:34):
And our our perfect pitch king, Charlie Pooth, put
out a video that I watched inits entirety and it did shed
some light for me.
Um, and I just wanted to updatethe listeners because I know,
like, literally, I think we'vetalked about it like five times.
SPEAKER_01 (36:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (36:49):
So his explanation is that a song, as long as it
can have four of the same notein order.
So his, I can't play it becauseit will get demonetized, but
like his explanation was fifthharmonies.
I know you're always work fromhome.
(37:12):
So he has uh work from home islike C, C, E flat, A flat G, I
believe, in in notes.
And then he compared it to aHaley Steinfeld song that has a
similar melody.
And hers is C C E flat A flat,but then it goes B flat instead
(37:34):
of G.
And so if it has four of thesame notes, it's fine.
It's nothing, it's just anotherpop song that has similar notes.
Once it reaches five notes thesame, that is interpolation.
SPEAKER_01 (37:49):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (37:50):
So that's I think where he's in the video he's
explaining it, he's like,There's been a lot of discourse
lately.
He doesn't specifically call outTaylor Swift, but it's was made
recently, so it's clearly aboutthat.
And it's like it is possible foryou to have a song that just
sounds like another song, andlegally, like this is how you it
(38:12):
how everyone interprets one fromthe other.
So is if you have four notes thesame, the first four notes of a
line, totally fine.
Fifth note, interpolation, ifit's the exact same.
But if you just change one notethere, nothing.
SPEAKER_01 (38:30):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (38:30):
So that I feel like is the end all be all because we
have speculated on the side ofthe so many times.
Obviously, a sample is just likeyou all taking the actual melody
and crediting it to your song.
So I thought that was sointeresting.
SPEAKER_00 (38:48):
Lyrics.
SPEAKER_03 (38:49):
Correct, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (38:50):
Because that almost happened with Queen Herbie with
Cheap Talk.
That was the whole issue behindthat.
SPEAKER_03 (38:56):
But I thought that that was very interesting.
And he, if you guys go toCharlie Pooh's TikTok, he sings
a couple of the songs.
I think he has like a couple umexamples on this, and like ones
that are okay, and then onesthat is interpolation, and he
sings it for you with obviouslyperfect pitch that I don't have
to sing it for you.
(39:16):
Yeah, and it is like very easyto understand.
So go check out his TikTok ifyou check it out.
What else do you got?
SPEAKER_00 (39:26):
That's all I got.
I'm back to reality this week.
SPEAKER_03 (39:29):
Back to reality.
SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
Can't believe we're halfway through the month
already.
SPEAKER_03 (39:34):
I know, and I haven't yet to do a single
fall-related thing.
Um yeah, I think page six reallyis just about Diane Keaton.
I'm not seeing anything reallyexciting.
Oh, boom clap.
Charlie XX fuels Taylor Swiftfeud with alleged response to
singers distract during SNLcameo.
(39:55):
I did hear that Charlie was inthe studio.
So we'll see what she comes outwith.
And honestly, someone said this.
They were like, I if I wasTaylor, I'd be a little worried
because Charlie doesn't seemlike she is scared to be a
little messy.
Be a little messy.
She's if Taylor, if you're outhere in the bathroom doing
(40:22):
anything bad.
SPEAKER_00 (40:25):
The way you're saying this.
SPEAKER_03 (40:28):
I would be worried that Charlie keep it.
SPEAKER_04 (40:32):
Watch her back.
SPEAKER_00 (40:32):
Watch her back.
SPEAKER_04 (40:33):
Might say something.
SPEAKER_00 (40:35):
Just watch her back.
SPEAKER_04 (40:38):
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
I'm scared for what she couldpossibly unearth.
SPEAKER_00 (40:44):
Who knows?
SPEAKER_04 (40:46):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (40:47):
Okay.
Um, oh, uh-list of the week.
SPEAKER_00 (40:50):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (40:51):
Which I almost forgot about.
SPEAKER_00 (40:53):
It's time you start out.
SPEAKER_04 (40:55):
It's time for A-List of the Week.
SPEAKER_00 (41:00):
Oh, I like that one.
SPEAKER_04 (41:01):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (41:02):
All right.
SPEAKER_04 (41:03):
You got one?
SPEAKER_00 (41:04):
Yes, I do.
The new show on Netflix comingof age series called Boots.
SPEAKER_04 (41:09):
Boots.
SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
It's a gay coming of age story based off of a memoir
called Pink Marine.
And it's about a gay kid thatjoins the Marines and it's like
his time in boot camp.
SPEAKER_03 (41:21):
Is this a true story?
Sorry.
A memoir, yes.
SPEAKER_00 (41:23):
It's a memoir made into a probably drama dramatized
TV show so far.
Riveting.
SPEAKER_03 (41:28):
I'm interested.
SPEAKER_00 (41:29):
It's a page in it.
SPEAKER_03 (41:30):
It is very serious.
SPEAKER_00 (41:33):
I'm called a dramedy.
But more on the more on thelighter side.
Like it's not heavy.
It's not like um hunting wiveskind of heavy.
It's got some depth to it, butit's my mainly just like a good
watch.
SPEAKER_04 (41:45):
Okay.
That actually sounded like a lotof.
SPEAKER_00 (41:49):
Not that those are fine too, but like it's like
watching, I guess, like LoveSimon.
SPEAKER_03 (41:53):
Okay.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (41:54):
Anyway, highly recommend.
And then also the VictoriaBeckham docus mini-series,
limited series, three episodesjust came out.
SPEAKER_03 (42:01):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (42:01):
We binged that as well.
SPEAKER_03 (42:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:03):
So fascinating.
SPEAKER_03 (42:04):
Yeah.
Like she needed her own aftershe was a star in Hit and
David's.
SPEAKER_00 (42:11):
Correct, yes.
And then to kind of get the fullunderstanding of how she like
really had to prove herself inthe fashion world is was really
fascinating.
Um an easy, good watch, Irecommend.
SPEAKER_03 (42:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (42:22):
That's my A-list of the week.
SPEAKER_03 (42:24):
Okay.
I do have to take a little bitof a side note because I feel
like when we do A-List of theWeek, I it always reminds me of
something and that I wanted tosay.
And when you talked about a newshow, I have to talk about the
Monsters Ed Geen story.
Have you watched any of this?
SPEAKER_00 (42:43):
Not yet, no.
SPEAKER_03 (42:44):
Okay.
I am so thoroughly disturbed.
I watched the first episode andlike I literally had a
nightmare.
And I don't know when the lasttime that has happened to me.
You you guys.
I am not recommending.
This is an unreccomendation.
SPEAKER_00 (43:02):
This is a but that's because Z list.
SPEAKER_03 (43:05):
Well, and everyone else in the world is like so
captivated by this show.
It's the it's a dramatization,it's a Ryan Murphy show, which
of course.
SPEAKER_00 (43:16):
Murp.
You already know.
SPEAKER_03 (43:18):
But he's I didn't know this was like a series he's
doing.
Um because the first Menendez.
The first one was Jeffrey Dahmerand then Menendez, and then now
he's doing the Ed Gean story,which Ed Gean, I hope I'm saying
that right.
Um, Guy and Gean is a prolificserial killer that characters
like um Psycho, Silence of theLambs, Leatherface are all kind
(43:43):
of made after this man.
And he liked to wear women'sskin.
He liked to decorate his homewith women with skin.
He exhumed their bodies.
He the whole psycho thing islike his like weird relationship
with his mother that and heliked to dress up in her
(44:07):
clothes, and like the openingscene.
SPEAKER_00 (44:09):
There's two like there's like is psycho the same
as Bates Motel.
SPEAKER_03 (44:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:13):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (44:14):
Yeah, where he's like wearing her clothes and
like sitting in the rockingchair, and like it's wild.
And this first episode, like, Itruly have not been disturbed by
something.
Really?
I don't know if it's just likeI'm getting older or what, but
like the opening scene, there'stwo like two opening scenes, I
guess.
There's like a cold open, andit's like him.
(44:36):
I guess, spoiler alert, he islike vacuuming with like a skin
face on, yeah, and just like inlike a dress or like a house
dress or something.
And I think it's like when theycome to arrest him because they
knock on the door and they'relike asking calling his name,
and he's like, Yes, he's gotthis like skin suit on, and it's
(45:00):
wild.
But then like the next opening,like I literally can't even say
it out loud.
I will tell you off screen, butlike that the first that scene
disturbed me in such a way thatlike I was like, the reason I
wanted to watch this show ingeneral is because one of my
friends is in episode four andAddison Ray is in it, and like
everyone's dying over her likeacting, and so I was like, I
(45:23):
want to like check it out.
Yeah, you guys, I don't know.
I just don't know what to say.
And uh I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (45:32):
I will probably watch it.
SPEAKER_03 (45:33):
Everyone is, and I just don't know if I'm just
becoming like an old lady,you're getting sensitive, yeah.
No, I like still enjoy a crimething, but I I really think that
when I tell you off screen likewhat was happening, like you
you're gonna understand why.
Yeah, but then I like looked himup on his Wikipedia to see his
(45:59):
crimes, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (46:01):
And like, let me just read a few hold for
children, hold for children.
SPEAKER_03 (46:09):
Yeah, there are some confirmed murders, but a lot of
what he was doing is exhumingbodies from their graves, and
then um taking off their skin todo things.
So let me tell you a few thingsthat he just made out of human
skin, you know.
Um a wastebasket.
SPEAKER_00 (46:31):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (46:32):
Um a lamp, right?
Covered several chairs.
SPEAKER_00 (46:36):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (46:37):
A lamp.
Um, some things I can't say outloud.
I can't say so many of thesethings out loud.
A belt made from a human bodypart that both men and women
have.
SPEAKER_00 (46:54):
If that on the chest area.
SPEAKER_03 (46:56):
On the chest area.
Uh a pair of lips on a windowshade drawstring.
Like what just like I can't evenlike comprehend.
And for real, like I've been, Idon't know the last time I've
had a nightmare, like somesomething like visually that I
saw on screen then show up in mydream as like a bad thing.
SPEAKER_01 (47:18):
Yeah, that's rough.
SPEAKER_03 (47:19):
Couldn't believe it.
So, anyway, that's that.
But my A-list of the week is alemon ricotta pancake that I
just had.
SPEAKER_00 (47:26):
What a transition.
SPEAKER_03 (47:29):
I just had it a few hours ago and for brunch, and it
was delish.
SPEAKER_00 (47:33):
Lemon ricotta, yum.
SPEAKER_03 (47:35):
Literally.
SPEAKER_00 (47:37):
We went from nipple belt to lemon ricotta so fast.
SPEAKER_04 (47:42):
Oh no.
Okay, well, let's talk about thebirthday.
Happy birthday to you.
SPEAKER_00 (47:50):
Okay, get it to me.
SPEAKER_04 (47:52):
Our dude, our boy Jimin is 30.
SPEAKER_00 (47:54):
Jimin finding our bisexual king is 30.
Unconfirmed.
He's seen, he's been seen in aFrench gay club making out with
a man.
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (48:03):
Wait, how do I not know this?
And how did you not tell me?
SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
I work with some of the biggest K-pop fans.
That is news that I needed toknow immediately.
So when they told me, I feellike you did already tell me
that.
Maybe it's just because my heartknew it was true.
SPEAKER_03 (48:16):
I know nothing about him in a French club.
SPEAKER_00 (48:18):
Allegedly, he was seen in a French, a gay French
club making out with a man.
Work.
Bisexual.
SPEAKER_03 (48:25):
You better get it.
Ashanti.
45.
I started watching their showand I had a great time watching
it.
I just like haven't beenwatching shows lately, other
than the that one.
SPEAKER_00 (48:37):
Skin wearing shows, right.
SPEAKER_03 (48:38):
Um AOC is 36.
SPEAKER_00 (48:41):
Oh wow, we're the same age.
SPEAKER_03 (48:43):
Yeah, she seems so much older than us.
SPEAKER_00 (48:45):
She's way smarter than me.
She's way more successful.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (48:50):
Yeah.
It's we're living differentlives.
Very different.
For sure.
Didn't realize we're the sameage.
SPEAKER_00 (48:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (48:54):
Kate Walsh.
SPEAKER_00 (48:56):
Who's that?
Oh my god.
Kate Walsh, of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gray's Anatomy.
SPEAKER_03 (49:00):
Gray's Anatomy, private practice.
So many things.
She's 58.
Sasha Barron Cohen.
SPEAKER_00 (49:09):
Fift or 48.
SPEAKER_03 (49:10):
54.
SPEAKER_00 (49:11):
54.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (49:12):
Marie Osmond.
SPEAKER_00 (49:14):
70.
SPEAKER_03 (49:16):
66.
SPEAKER_00 (49:17):
Sorry, Marie.
SPEAKER_03 (49:18):
Donnie might be older.
SPEAKER_00 (49:20):
Maybe.
SPEAKER_03 (49:21):
They're not twins, right?
SPEAKER_00 (49:22):
No.
Okay.
Just weirdly close.
SPEAKER_03 (49:24):
Nancy Kerrigan.
SPEAKER_00 (49:25):
How old?
SPEAKER_03 (49:26):
56.
SPEAKER_00 (49:27):
Oh wow.
Looks great.
SPEAKER_03 (49:29):
Yeah.
And then entertainment-wise, thenightmare before Christmas
premiered on this day in 1995.
93.
SPEAKER_00 (49:38):
We were just watching that earlier.
SPEAKER_03 (49:40):
I just realized I've actually never seen it.
SPEAKER_00 (49:43):
No, I've never seen it.
He puts it on.
I was like, I've never seenthis.
He was like, Ever?
SPEAKER_03 (49:46):
Literally ever.
SPEAKER_00 (49:46):
Today's the anniversary?
SPEAKER_03 (49:48):
Yeah.
That's pretty crazy.
The stars have aligned.
SPEAKER_00 (49:51):
They have.
SPEAKER_03 (49:52):
And I actually, like, when I was at Disney
recently, I decided that thisyear I'm going to make myself
watch it.
SPEAKER_00 (49:58):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (49:59):
So I'll report back.
SPEAKER_00 (50:01):
This is Halloween.
SPEAKER_03 (50:02):
Yes.
Uh the uh the show Jane theVirgin.
SPEAKER_00 (50:06):
I love that show.
SPEAKER_03 (50:07):
Premiered this day in 2014.
SPEAKER_00 (50:10):
Nope.
Sorry.
Confused it with Ugly Betty.
SPEAKER_03 (50:12):
Honestly, similar vibe.
I get that.
Yeah.
I've watched a little bit ofJane the Virgin.
SPEAKER_00 (50:16):
I didn't finish it, but I watched all of Ugly Betty
and I did like it.
I think same creator.
SPEAKER_03 (50:21):
Yeah.
Jane the Virgin is good.
It's not what I expected it tobe.
And then when I started, I waslike, oh, and now I get I get
the premise.
SPEAKER_01 (50:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (50:29):
But it doesn't Jane the Virgin star what's his name
that like is in the legal battlewith Ryan Reynolds and Blake
Lively right now.
I think he's the main guy.
What is his name?
No.
SPEAKER_00 (50:43):
Justin Baldanyi.
Doug Baldone?
Maybe it maybe it is, but helooks so different to me.
SPEAKER_03 (50:47):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's the main guy in Jane
the Virgin.
SPEAKER_00 (50:49):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_03 (50:50):
Again, I'm picturing ugly Betty.
So I don't know.
And then are you ready for this?
Your movie debut?
Well, not your movie debut.
SPEAKER_00 (50:59):
You bringing up Bobby?
SPEAKER_03 (51:02):
Bringing up Bobby.
No.
Sorry.
The Taylor Swift movie premieredon this day in 2023.
SPEAKER_00 (51:08):
Two years ago, today, my debut.
Your debut.
On the Taylor Swift Eras tourmovie.
SPEAKER_03 (51:12):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (51:13):
Wow, I can't believe that was two years ago.
That means I went to the showthree years ago.
SPEAKER_03 (51:16):
Yeah, it actually feels wild.
Weird.
And then a cultural reset in oursociety is the release in 2008
of the song Single Ladies.
SPEAKER_00 (51:28):
Vine.
Oh, right.
Single Ladies.
SPEAKER_03 (51:30):
What did you say?
What did you say?
SPEAKER_00 (51:31):
Little app called Vine.
SPEAKER_03 (51:32):
Oh.
No, I do think Single Ladieslike marks a cultural reset.
SPEAKER_00 (51:36):
I kind of agree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (51:38):
So yeah, that's that.
SPEAKER_00 (51:41):
Okay, well, that's thank you for those updates.
SPEAKER_03 (51:43):
And with so welcome.
SPEAKER_00 (51:44):
With that, and the fact that there's children
screaming outside my door.
We've got to wrap this shit up.
SPEAKER_03 (51:48):
And the fact that I'm going to fall asleep.
SPEAKER_00 (51:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (51:51):
And we have to edit this.
SPEAKER_00 (51:53):
Well, thank you so much, Allison.
And thank you, listeners andwatchers, viewers.
SPEAKER_03 (51:57):
Viewers, listeners, watchers.
SPEAKER_00 (51:59):
We love you.
Check out Gay and Trying thisFriday.
Thank you for your support.
We'll post links and sendingCaleb all the good vibes.
Well, and you guys, because youalso have to do the work.
SPEAKER_03 (52:08):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (52:09):
Love you so much.
SPEAKER_03 (52:10):
Bye.
Goodbye.
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