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We debate TS12 without the pile-on and ask whether simplicity can be a deliberate artistic move, then jump to who should own the Super Bowl stage and why pop showcraft wins the moment. We share Disneyland Lightning Lane tactics and end with a love letter to Bogota’s food, spas, and design.

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Allison Florea

Alex Hinsky

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Your shirt reminds me of the taco from Home State.

SPEAKER_00 (00:04):
I think it's a little vaginal.

SPEAKER_01 (00:05):
Tijuana Panther.

SPEAKER_00 (00:08):
Yeah.
But doesn't it look a littlevaginal?

SPEAKER_01 (00:11):
Um the black like dots, I guess it could be this
shape right here.
Yeah.
Is that why you got it?

SPEAKER_00 (00:18):
No, I didn't really pay attention to that.
It was more like because it wasa sleeveless crop.
So I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (00:23):
Did you buy it?

SPEAKER_00 (00:24):
Yeah, well, I I've had it for a long time.

SPEAKER_01 (00:26):
Oh, okay.
Did you crop?
I mean, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (00:28):
No, it came cropped.
Okay.
So I was like, oh, yeah, youknow, it's one of those ASOS
things you throw in the cart.
Yeah.
It was like$4.

SPEAKER_01 (00:34):
Have we talked about Depop?
Have you been on Depop?

SPEAKER_00 (00:37):
We did talk about it.
You have recommended it.
Have I been on it?
No.

SPEAKER_01 (00:40):
Do we talk about it on Pun?
Alright, well then I'll shut up.

SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
Big fan.

SPEAKER_01 (00:58):
Welcome back to the A-less podcast with Allison and
Alex.
I'm Allison.
He's Alex.
I'm wearing glasses for thefirst time on the pot.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
Remember how she used to make fun of me for
wearing sunglasses?

SPEAKER_01 (01:08):
Whoa, never made fun of you.
I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09):
I think these sunglasses inside like that.

unknown (01:12):
Like that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13):
Are those new, by the way?

SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
No, I've had them for so long.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15):
They're so good.
I love Key.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17):
They're the ones that um I never wear them
because I got them with one ofthose chains when that was cool.
Probably like four years ago.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
It was four years ago.
You're absolutely right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27):
Exactly.
And but I never really wore it.
I think I went on vacation onceand took them.
And then like every time I wouldput them on here with the chain,
I because the chain comes off.
It actually doesn't go with themat all.
It's just like you can get achain from there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:40):
And I would put put it on and I'd be like, you look
like a douche.
And I would then take it off.

SPEAKER_00 (01:45):
I have so many chains because I, when we went
to Vegas during pandemic, I waslike, this is the look.
It was.
Yeah.
It really was.

SPEAKER_01 (01:53):
It is definitely a vacation look, unless you are
someone who like wears coolstuff like that all the time,
and then you can get away withit.
But I don't.

SPEAKER_00 (02:04):
Period.

SPEAKER_01 (02:05):
Period.
I feel like how what can we dobut talk about the Taylor Swift
album?

SPEAKER_00 (02:12):
What can we do?

SPEAKER_01 (02:13):
What can we not?
You know what I mean?
We I feel like we bless you.
Thank you.
Go ahead.
I feel like we have to startwith it, right?
Like there's nothing else.
Yes.
I actually do have other thingsthat I have have like sourced,
but I feel like that is thenumber one.

SPEAKER_00 (02:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (02:28):
So as our resident Swift T, give us the T on the
Taylor.

SPEAKER_00 (02:33):
Yes.
So TS12 has been released.
It came out on Friday.
And I gave it a full listen totwice.
Once like right at midnight.

SPEAKER_01 (02:42):
And then Maybe at midnight.

SPEAKER_00 (02:45):
I did that with you when that one came out.

SPEAKER_01 (02:47):
You did.
It was fun.

SPEAKER_00 (02:48):
And then listened again on the airplane.
And there's some moments, butit's really it's not my
favorite.
I'm a I'm a I am personally alittle bummed that we didn't get
another.
I thought with Max Martininvolved, surely we're getting
pop anthems, and I just don'tthink we got that.

SPEAKER_01 (03:02):
My question is, are you disappointed because it's
not pop anthems?
Are you disappointed becauseit's not like as deep?
I'm doing that in quotations forthe listeners because that's a
lot of the discourse that I'mseeing is that it's like not
deep and the the lyrics aren'tas Shakespearean as her other

(03:23):
stuff.
And like to me, as a non-superSwifti, a non-Swifty fan.
Yeah, like I'm a fan, but I'mnot like a yeah, I'm not deep in
the lore.
I wouldn't uh call myself aSwifty out of respect for the
real Swifties.

SPEAKER_02 (03:37):
Sure.

SPEAKER_01 (03:38):
I think it's on purpose.
Like I think that it's like ahundred like I think it's the
same way that when the albumartwork dropped and everyone was
like, I could have made this inCanva.
Like I think it's all by designfor whatever reason.

SPEAKER_00 (03:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (03:54):
Because she's had so many albums that are very
lyrically, you know, intense orwhatever the word is, and then
for her to intentionally put outsongs that are, I guess, the
people think are too simple.
Like there's no way that's noton purpose.

SPEAKER_00 (04:12):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if if it's thatdeep or if if it is like because
yeah, I've seen a lot oftheories out there.
I just think yes, to answer yourquestion, I wouldn't I wouldn't
really cared lyrically.
I wanted to hear songs that makeme that made me feel like when I
would listen to like Welcome toNew York, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (04:28):
Yes, which I also wanted.
I I thought there would at leastbe a couple of those.

SPEAKER_00 (04:33):
Yeah.
And I think there's moments,there's a couple of them that I
think could become that for me.
Like honey is one of them.

SPEAKER_01 (04:38):
But I don't remember that one.
I did listen through, I did, youknow, a quick listen, a quick
vibe check because we weretrying to see if there were any
for us to do dances to.
Um, not at midnight at the nextday when I woke up.
And yeah, I was just like, Ifeel like there's nothing that
is like what you picture MaxMartin producing.

SPEAKER_00 (05:03):
I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
Which is interesting.
Maybe he's like bored ofhimself.

SPEAKER_00 (05:07):
Yeah, I mean it does, I don't know, that also
like there's some there is acouple, you know, kind of cringy
moments.

SPEAKER_01 (05:14):
Yeah.
But I just like I don't I'm notsaying it's deep.

SPEAKER_00 (05:17):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (05:18):
Like it's deep that she has is like making this
choice, but I do think it is achoice.
Whether it was just like, I justwanna like do some silly shit.

SPEAKER_00 (05:29):
Sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (05:29):
Or whether it's like As a songwriter, I've definitely
done that.
There there's gonna be a parttwo of the album, and it's gonna
be everything is gonna be superlike the the opposite and super
deep or whatever, and I don'tknow.
I just feel like I I'mdisappointed in the Swifties, to
be honest, that everyone's thatpeople who are I was like seeing

(05:52):
these videos of people who werelike so excited and it's
midnight and they're sat withall their girls and they're
going through each track andthey're like, This sucks, blah
blah and I'm like, wow, you haveturned on her so easily.

SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
So easy, damn.

SPEAKER_01 (06:04):
I don't feel like you're a real Swifty then.

SPEAKER_00 (06:06):
Yeah, what that's that that is by that's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (06:09):
And you're like, people that are looking for all
these little Easter eggs,they're just like, Wow, she made
a stupid album.
Like, why don't you look alittle deeper?

SPEAKER_00 (06:20):
Period.

SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
I don't know.
I'm not like I just I just findit interesting that it's being
like torn apart.

SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
Yeah, it is so intensely, but but you know that
the next one's gonna be insanebecause it's TS13.

SPEAKER_01 (06:34):
Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 (06:35):
So I think if this is the case, then I think she
was like, I just I need to get12 out, so I just need to like
get it done.

SPEAKER_01 (06:39):
Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
And the deep, deep big stuff's coming next.

SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
Yeah.
I don't really understand thecorrelation between life of a
showgirl.
That's why I'm like, Yeah.
What maybe there is a part toothat is like like this is all
surface level stuff that's likewhat the it's perceived, see on
the stage is deep, and then thesecond part might be like the

(07:03):
behind the scenes stuff.
I don't know, because to me, Ican do it with a broken heart.
It seems like it belonged onthis album.

SPEAKER_00 (07:08):
Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_01 (07:09):
It seems perfect.
Which I probably thinks he'slike, you guys are really off.
But um, yeah, I don't know.
The Charlie Disc track is likewhat the Charlies are talking
about.

SPEAKER_00 (07:23):
And the one that people are speculating is about
Blake.

SPEAKER_01 (07:26):
Oh, I don't know this.
Tell me.
Well, well, let's explain bothto the people because there's
people probably like my sister,hi, Amanda listening, that
literally don't know what we'retalking about.
So I think we should explainboth the tracks.

SPEAKER_00 (07:36):
Okay, go ahead.
Well, you can I mean you're theshe has a track, and she has or
she has a track where the shesays the line, I it's can't the
song's called canceled.
And she goes, I like my friendscancelled dripped in Gucci or
something.

SPEAKER_01 (07:52):
Mm-hmm.
Is Blake a Gucci representative?

SPEAKER_00 (07:55):
Maybe it's not Gucci.
Some designer brand.
But then she goes on to Yeah,look up that those lyrics.
But basically she says umsomething about how like it's
nice because we have the samescars.
And it's like, oh.
It's like crucified for being awoman kind of a thing.

SPEAKER_01 (08:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good thing.

SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
Good thing I like my friends cancelled or something.

SPEAKER_01 (08:19):
Good thing I like my friends cancelled.
I like them cloaked in Gucci andin scandal.
Like my whiskey sour and poisonthorny flowers.
Welcome to my underworld whereit gets quite dark.
At least you knew exactly whoyour friends are.
The ones with the matchingscars.

SPEAKER_00 (08:33):
The ones with the matching scars.

SPEAKER_01 (08:34):
But it seems like from the outside world, like
they're not she's not reallywriting for Blake right now.

SPEAKER_00 (08:42):
That's yeah, I don't get it either.
And like the BuzzFeed put out athing about this song already,
and it was basically like thecomments are things like, so she
supports women's rights andwrongs, hell yeah.
Like she is kind of becausewe're all flawed, you know?
Yeah.
So interesting.

SPEAKER_01 (08:58):
So that that's that one.
The second one is the diss trackto Charlie XCX, which is called
Actually Romantic.

SPEAKER_00 (09:06):
I think it's just called Romantic.
Or actually romantic.

SPEAKER_01 (09:09):
I think it was actually romantic.
And that is because Charlie XCXis married to the drummer.

SPEAKER_00 (09:20):
Where famously Matt Healy is the lead singer.
Correct.

SPEAKER_01 (09:25):
And she dated him for however long or a couple
times back and forth.
Yeah.
And then post breakup, Charlietalked a lot of crap.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (09:39):
And then her song, Sympathy is a knife, apparently,
is about Well, then why I wishif that's true, I wish Ariana
hadn't gotten involved.

SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
She probably didn't know.

SPEAKER_00 (09:50):
They probably just were like, Can we do a remix
with a child?

SPEAKER_01 (09:55):
And she wasn't like, well, we wrote this about
Taylor.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 (09:57):
Yes, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 (09:59):
But um the chorus of this is it's at but it's
actually sweet, all the timeyou've spent on me.
It's honestly wild, all theeffort you've put in.
It's actually romantic.
I really gotta hand it to you,and no man has ever loved me
like you do.
And then there's a line that'slike, How many times has your
boyfriend said, Why are wealways talking about her?

(10:20):
And when I first listened tothat, when I I didn't know it
was about Charlie, I thought itwas about a boy, like a guy.
And I was like, What does thismean?

SPEAKER_00 (10:36):
Interesting.
I didn't know they were beefingat all.
That's how out of the realm Iwas on that.

SPEAKER_01 (10:40):
I mean, I didn't really either.
I didn't know Sympathy as aknife was about her.
I but I did I did hear like inthe world, like that she didn't
really like her because of theMattahealy of it all.

SPEAKER_02 (10:54):
Got it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (10:57):
I don't know.
But that seems to be why let melook at let me tell you what in
my quick listen.

SPEAKER_00 (11:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (11:06):
I gotta go both the tracks.

SPEAKER_00 (11:08):
Pull them up.

SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
I honestly like the sound of cancelled.
Like it's like fun.

SPEAKER_00 (11:16):
Yeah, it is fun.

SPEAKER_01 (11:19):
Um Wood is also about Travis's private part.
Lord.
Um Father figure's cool.

SPEAKER_00 (11:31):
She sings the word dickmatized.

SPEAKER_01 (11:33):
She kind of like the like dick of it is kind of like
there's like an effect on it, soyou can't really hear it.
But it is like that's like theone where the lyrics are people
are like, what is what is shedoing?
Like she's never like writtenlyrics like this.
Um, but like, whatever, girl.
Travis is putting it down.

(11:54):
Yeah.
I guess.
Um, but yeah, so that's reallybeen That's been it.
It I guess it's only been twodays.

SPEAKER_00 (12:03):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (12:03):
But it's been a divisive two days.

SPEAKER_00 (12:06):
It has.

SPEAKER_01 (12:06):
I haven't seen the music video.
You didn't go to the movie, I'mI'm assuming.

SPEAKER_00 (12:10):
Huh?

SPEAKER_01 (12:11):
There was m there's like an event at the movie
theater.

SPEAKER_00 (12:14):
No, I haven't seen the video.

SPEAKER_01 (12:16):
Well, I guess we'll do it after.

SPEAKER_00 (12:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:18):
My nose itches one second.

SPEAKER_00 (12:19):
It's weird I wasn't invited to the premiere since
I'm in the Eras tour movie, youknow?

SPEAKER_01 (12:23):
It is weird.
We have to ask about that.

SPEAKER_00 (12:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:26):
Speaking of music, are we ready to move on?

SPEAKER_00 (12:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:30):
Okay.
We haven't talked about BadBunny.

SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
That's so funny.
Did you see the like video clipI put on my story where Tommy
Lauren or whatever her name is?

SPEAKER_01 (12:38):
Oh, with Crystal Ball.

SPEAKER_00 (12:40):
Yeah, with Crystal Ball, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:41):
Um, I know her just because it's one of the it
doesn't matter.
I know who she is.
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
Her name is Crystal Ball.

SPEAKER_00 (12:47):
Yeah, it is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (12:48):
Yeah.
Where she's like Puerto Rico'spart of America, dear.

SPEAKER_00 (12:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:53):
Duh.

SPEAKER_00 (12:54):
What's the woman's name again?

SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
Tommy Lauren.

SPEAKER_00 (12:56):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (12:56):
Crystal ball?

SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
It's funny because my aunt, her maiden name was
Lear.

SPEAKER_01 (13:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (13:02):
And her first name is Shandy.

SPEAKER_01 (13:04):
Funny.
Did they do that on purpose?

SPEAKER_00 (13:06):
I imagine her mom did.
She was a quirky woman.

SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
I like Shandy.
That's a fun name.

SPEAKER_00 (13:10):
Shandy.

SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
Yeah.
Even Sans Lear.

SPEAKER_00 (13:14):
Huh?
Oh, even without the Lear.
Yeah, Shandy's cute.

SPEAKER_01 (13:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (13:18):
Okay, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (13:18):
But yes, Bad Bunny was named the Super Bowl
performer of 2026.

SPEAKER_00 (13:25):
Good American artist.

SPEAKER_01 (13:26):
And everyone thought, yes, because in case
anyone doesn't know, Puerto Ricois part of America.

SPEAKER_02 (13:33):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (13:35):
Everyone thought it was going to be Taylor.
So that's disappointing, onlyjust because, like, if Travis is
retiring, it's like it wouldhave been if they make it to the
Super Bowl, we're assuming theKansas City Chiefs were making
it there, but we don't know.
We don't know.
Actually, I think that they lostlike a bunch of their first
games.
So it's not looking great, butyou know, it can be turned

(13:57):
around.

SPEAKER_00 (13:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (13:58):
But apparently, when it first was announced, and I
was like going through, itlooked like the other side of
the world that isn't a pop, youknow, want the pop stars, really
wanted Metallica because I thinkMetallica might be like from the
area.

SPEAKER_02 (14:12):
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (14:14):
Metallica, wow.

SPEAKER_01 (14:15):
So everyone thought it's gotta be Metallica.

SPEAKER_00 (14:18):
Do we know where the Super Bowl is being held?

SPEAKER_01 (14:20):
I think it's San Francisco, right?
I think it's 49ers stadium.
Remember?
The 49ers and the sourdough andthe whatever.
Yeah.
I think.
But here's my thing, you guys.
Bad Bunny, I think he puts on agood show.

SPEAKER_00 (14:35):
He does.

SPEAKER_01 (14:36):
I really, I don't know many songs, but that's just
because I'm really out of theloop on a lot of music.

SPEAKER_00 (14:40):
But you know the beats.

SPEAKER_01 (14:41):
I know the beats and the song Titi Me Pergunto.

SPEAKER_00 (14:44):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (14:45):
Great song.
Everyone should listen to it.
Sorry about my pronunciation.
That's a fire song.
Really like to work out whenthat song's playing.
But I don't know.
I think he's cute.
I think I'm sure he'll bringpeople out.
Like I feel like he has songswith other people in it.
I watched a little bit of hisCoachella a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_02 (15:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (15:05):
And I it it was fun.

SPEAKER_02 (15:07):
His Coachella.

SPEAKER_01 (15:08):
His Coachella.
Yeah.
His Coachella said.
Yeah.
But like, I'm sorry.
I think the days of likeMetallica are over at the Super
Bowl.
I hope so.
I think we're far toostimulation and like a band just
playing, unless it's somethinglike, which I'm in favor of, of
like the the Aerosmith andsaying, whatever.

(15:31):
Like that amount of Aerosmithplaying and then adding in like
all those other types of musicwas obviously my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 (15:41):
What I would love to see is a Janet Jackson comeback.

SPEAKER_01 (15:44):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (15:45):
No JT, just Janet.
And having just seen her at theAMA's, she can still fucking
perform.

SPEAKER_01 (15:50):
That would be that would be a good one.

SPEAKER_00 (15:51):
Oh my god, it'd be so good.

SPEAKER_01 (15:52):
Maybe if the Super Bowl's ever back in Indiana
soon, before she's Yeah, get anIndiana performer.
Before she's too old.
Not that she not that anyone'sever too old, but I'm just
saying Tina Turner was doingthat well into her 70s.
That's true.
I will take that back.
But I'm just saying, like, if itin the like, you know, next 10
years, if it's there, like thatwould be fun.
That would be fun.

(16:12):
Because I think it was there inlike 2016 though.
So I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (16:16):
The Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_01 (16:17):
Yeah, because I went to the taping of Jimmy Fallon.

SPEAKER_02 (16:20):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (16:21):
Because they were doing uh Jimmy Fallon and Indie,
and my friend and I got ticketsto go, and it was actually
really fun.
And Taylor Lautner was there.

SPEAKER_00 (16:30):
Same birthday.

SPEAKER_01 (16:31):
Oh my gosh.
Well, I don't know.
I'm excited about it.
I don't I think that I don'treally ever care.

SPEAKER_00 (16:39):
I don't really ever care either.

SPEAKER_01 (16:41):
If it was like Metallica or something, sorry,
to the Metallica fans, I wouldbe like, meh, I'm bored because
I want to see people likerunning around and dancing and
like dancers and whatever.
Yep.
But yeah.
I don't know.
And again, Puerto Rico is a partof America.

SPEAKER_00 (16:57):
Write it down.

SPEAKER_01 (16:59):
The other big news is that Nicole Kidman and Keith
Urban have split.

SPEAKER_00 (17:03):
Yeah, I saw that Keith is the one that filed.

SPEAKER_01 (17:05):
Yes.
19 years.
Now, there was some talk aboutmaybe he's cheating with his
guitar player, and apparently ithas come out that that person
has a boyfriend.
So I think that that was a weirdthing.

SPEAKER_00 (17:21):
His guitar player is a woman?

SPEAKER_01 (17:22):
Yep.
I think it came out that hechanged the lyrics of a song
that maybe previously was aboutNicole and like put the guitar
player's name in it.
But I think that was just himlike being weird or being funny
or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (17:39):
Because there is like a lot of speculation that
he's G-A-Y.

SPEAKER_01 (17:42):
Right.
So I don't know, but I thinkwhat I saw uh today was it's
gone now, but the guitar pla theguitar player has a a partner.

SPEAKER_00 (17:55):
Oh so it's like either they're both cheating or
it's just like she's gottencaught up in this and he just
like the one that has beenafflicted.

SPEAKER_01 (18:09):
True.

SPEAKER_00 (18:10):
You know?
Not always, I'm sure, buttypically.

SPEAKER_01 (18:13):
Yeah, I don't know.
I like don't know what theytaught what they possibly could
have talked about.

SPEAKER_00 (18:18):
I don't even that's wild.

SPEAKER_01 (18:20):
And the joke of her taking every role ever just to
not be home.

SPEAKER_00 (18:26):
I mean, Joyce asked her on the red carpet, because
it got edited out of ourinterview, but she asks her,
What's your best dating advice?
And she literally goes, Well, II don't date and I won't date,
so be in your power.
That part made it into theinterview.
But I was like, Oh, so shedoesn't date.

SPEAKER_01 (18:45):
Well, she doesn't have to.
She can just be like, Hey, doyou want to date me?

SPEAKER_00 (18:49):
Do you want to help me brush my wigs?

SPEAKER_01 (18:52):
Honestly, I like can picture like sitting in a dark,
cold room just brushing thecool's wigs.
Watching her own movies,brushing her wigs.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (19:01):
Stoked for practical magic too, though.

SPEAKER_01 (19:03):
Oh, hell yeah.
But yeah, I don't know what theywere talking about.

SPEAKER_00 (19:06):
And um I'm sad though.

SPEAKER_01 (19:08):
A 19 years is a long time.

SPEAKER_00 (19:10):
It is a long time.
Did you see another pop the popnews that InSync is now finally
discussing a stadium tour aheadof their 30-year anniversary?

SPEAKER_01 (19:20):
Without Justin.

SPEAKER_00 (19:20):
Well, uh he's not in the picture that I saw.

SPEAKER_01 (19:23):
I did see a headline, I didn't read into it.

SPEAKER_00 (19:26):
If if Justin wasn't an idiot, he would do it.
I it would only do insane thingsfor all of them.

SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
He it is actually wild.
If he doesn't, it's so wildbecause he's so down in
popularity right now.
No one is really on his side.

SPEAKER_00 (19:42):
And look at the Backstreet Boys.
It like they were never notpopular, but this totally like
gave them a huge Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (19:49):
And they've been doing it for a long time.
Like they've still been touringbecause I've seen them through
three freaking times.

SPEAKER_00 (19:55):
They toured with um New Kids on the Block.
And then they did the residencyin Vegas like four years ago.
Yeah.
But then something about thisone and the resurgence of
Millennium, I think that likekicked them into like a new.

SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
Yeah, they definitely need to do it, and he
would actually be so stupid notto do it.
Like, get over yourself.
Because if he doesn't, peopleare going to be even more
annoyed at him.

SPEAKER_00 (20:17):
Correct.

SPEAKER_01 (20:18):
And someone has to tell him that.

SPEAKER_00 (20:20):
Please.

SPEAKER_01 (20:21):
How do we how do we get this information?

SPEAKER_00 (20:23):
How do we get this information to Justin?

SPEAKER_01 (20:24):
It's gonna ruin the tour.

SPEAKER_00 (20:26):
It's gonna ruin the tour.

SPEAKER_01 (20:28):
Oh my gosh.
Um, Diddy was sentenced to fouryears in prison.

SPEAKER_00 (20:32):
I didn't see the sentencing.
Is this the conclusion?

SPEAKER_01 (20:35):
Four years.
And he'll get out, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (20:38):
He'll get out on good behavior or something.
Lord.
That is fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (20:44):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (20:44):
Frickin' wild.

SPEAKER_01 (20:46):
What's your let's play a game called what's your
TikTok for you page right now?

SPEAKER_00 (20:50):
Okay, I actually I already know this.

SPEAKER_01 (20:52):
Okay, tell me.

SPEAKER_00 (20:53):
It's a lot of shihtzus right now because I
interacted with one that was socute, named like Mr.
Fluff and Tail.

SPEAKER_01 (20:58):
Love that name.

SPEAKER_00 (20:59):
And then just like was obsessed, and also because
boyfriend is talking aboutwanting to get his own dog.
And I want him to get he wantsto get a little black something,
and we've agreed it won't shed.
And I think he should get alittle black shih tzu.

SPEAKER_01 (21:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:13):
And he wants to name it Romeo.
How cute.

SPEAKER_01 (21:16):
Aww, I had hamsters.
Oh, I told you that before.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
I would love Stanley to have a little brother.

SPEAKER_01 (21:20):
Oh my gosh, you should get a Pomeranian, a
blonde Pomeranian.

SPEAKER_00 (21:26):
I was just showing him Macy today.

SPEAKER_01 (21:28):
Oh.
That's her.
Oh my gosh, we haven't talkedabout your trip.
What the heck?
We just started.

SPEAKER_00 (21:34):
Or yours.

SPEAKER_01 (21:35):
What was mine?
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (21:37):
Was it a successful day?

SPEAKER_01 (21:39):
Yes.
Um, I just went to Disneyland.

SPEAKER_00 (21:42):
Were you on the same page as far as like Yeah.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (21:45):
Oh my gosh, yes.

SPEAKER_00 (21:46):
Good, good, good.

SPEAKER_01 (21:47):
Although I forgot my I forgot to take my purse there.

SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
What?

SPEAKER_01 (21:50):
I like because I drove.

SPEAKER_02 (21:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (21:53):
And like halfway in the drive, I was like trying to
find my purse because I wantedto put chapstick on.
And I was like, can you lookbehind my like chair see and see
if my bag's back there?
And he was like, no.
And I was like, I left my purseat home.
Like I've never done thatbefore.
That was so weird.

SPEAKER_00 (22:10):
That is wild.
Did you need anything in it?

SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
No, because I could do everything on my phone.

SPEAKER_00 (22:14):
Thank God you don't have a nasal spray addiction.

SPEAKER_01 (22:16):
Thank God.

SPEAKER_00 (22:17):
It would have ruined it.

SPEAKER_01 (22:18):
I and I had grabbed my external charger.
So I and I had a fanny pack inmy trunk for when I go hiking.

SPEAKER_00 (22:24):
Okay, so you had backups, but just no chapstick.

SPEAKER_01 (22:27):
No chapstick, no gum, no tampons.
And I needed them, which iscrazy.
I had to get a free one from thebathroom.

SPEAKER_00 (22:35):
They do that?

SPEAKER_01 (22:36):
They do.
That's nice.
That is nice.
Yeah.
Um, but I lived.
So anyway, that was a side note.
Um we got there probably at like12 30.

SPEAKER_00 (22:49):
Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_01 (22:50):
And then left at 6.

SPEAKER_00 (22:54):
Did you hop?

SPEAKER_01 (22:55):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 (22:55):
Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_01 (22:56):
And it was a little tough, honestly, with the
Lightning Lane.
Was it?
I had to go, I had to modify forlike a long time.

SPEAKER_00 (23:05):
It's funny because I have a theory about this.

SPEAKER_01 (23:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
I think what they've started doing is like, say we
went to the park when theyopened and got Lightning Lane.
I think they prioritize thosepeople.
Oh, it's that get Lightning Laneat the beginning of the day or
have pre-ordered it with theirtickets.
And then the later you come, theless you are in the queue for
when you refresh.

SPEAKER_01 (23:26):
Okay, that makes sense.
It it still worked, but it umtook way longer.
It was like there was one, I waslike doing it for like a half
hour, 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 (23:35):
If someone went through this podcast just to
pull out the clips where wetalked about Lightning Lane
specifically, I think it wouldbe its own episode.

SPEAKER_01 (23:42):
I have seen it's funny.
I have seen people make TikToksabout a different hack, which is
the stacking hack.

SPEAKER_00 (23:49):
Stack hack?

SPEAKER_01 (23:50):
Stacking.

SPEAKER_00 (23:50):
I've never heard of a stack hack.

SPEAKER_01 (23:52):
Well, I think that it's not as it's not as fast as
ours, because ours you can getto stuff so much faster.

SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
Stacking is when you wait the hour.

SPEAKER_01 (24:02):
It's like where you wait until you can do your next
one.
So you do one for like superlate.

SPEAKER_00 (24:08):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (24:09):
And then you go, I don't know.
I actually don't understand.

SPEAKER_00 (24:11):
I'm curious, so I need next time you see a TikTok,
send it my way.

SPEAKER_01 (24:14):
I will.
I actually don't understand it,so I can't presume to tell.
I don't know.
Whatever.
But yeah, we were like, we'renot gonna stay late.

SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
You were on the same page.

SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
Yeah.
Uh we got to do most thingsexcept Thunder Mountain is
closed for refurbishment.

SPEAKER_00 (24:33):
Well, you wouldn't have done that anyway, right?

unknown (24:35):
Thunder Mountain.

SPEAKER_00 (24:35):
Um Thunder Mountain, sorry, not Splash.
And Splash is gone, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
Tiana's, we would not.
Yeah, we weren't gonna do that.
No.
We did Incredit Coaster first,got it out of the way.
We did um Soarin, which I didn'tget to do last time because it
broke down.

SPEAKER_00 (24:49):
Is it California right now or is it World?
It's World.
It's World.

SPEAKER_01 (24:54):
And then we ate lunch and then we went and did
two started in Cali.
Yes, because it was an oogieboogie night.

SPEAKER_00 (25:03):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (25:04):
So yeah, it was like very chill.
I tried a pumpkin cheesecakecold brew.
It was pretty good.
It wasn't my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 (25:12):
Where's it from?

SPEAKER_01 (25:13):
The Red Rose Tavern.

SPEAKER_00 (25:14):
Oh, I did see this.
I think you might have sent thisto me.

SPEAKER_01 (25:16):
Yeah, it was pretty good for like a seasonal thing,
but it wasn't as still the blackcafe the best one.
Yeah.
And tried an apple um applebanana pudding.

SPEAKER_00 (25:32):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (25:33):
Caramel apple banana pudding.

SPEAKER_00 (25:34):
Whoa, how was that?

SPEAKER_01 (25:35):
Delish.

SPEAKER_00 (25:36):
Where from?

SPEAKER_01 (25:36):
Highly recommend the San Francisco area.

SPEAKER_00 (25:40):
They have great shit over there.

SPEAKER_01 (25:41):
Yeah.
And I tried the, I think it'ssomething you've had before, the
like shrimp.

SPEAKER_00 (25:47):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
The roll.
Yeah.
Yeah, so good.
Delish.
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (25:51):
That was my lunch.

SPEAKER_00 (25:52):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
And that's it, I think.
Didn't really try that manytreats, which I'm like sad
about.

SPEAKER_00 (26:00):
Oh, I had that when we went with Angela, Sass,
Megan, this earlier this summer.

SPEAKER_01 (26:05):
The roll?

SPEAKER_00 (26:06):
The roll.

SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
Yeah.
So I don't know when we're goingback, but I need to prioritize
more seasonal things.

SPEAKER_00 (26:12):
Yeah, it's important.

SPEAKER_01 (26:13):
Yeah.
I think that's it.
How's your trip?

SPEAKER_00 (26:16):
My trip was good.
Here are the highlights.

SPEAKER_01 (26:18):
Um I can't believe you made me go first when you
went to a different country.

SPEAKER_00 (26:22):
That's great.
It's actually, I was there soshort, but here's the here are
the high notes.
Global entry, worth it.

SPEAKER_01 (26:29):
So worth it.
Save my ass in air.
Oh my gosh.
Can't recommend enough.

SPEAKER_00 (26:33):
Um flights there, perfect.
Flights back, perfect.
Everything was good there.
Columbia.
Guys, I went to Bogota, Columbiato visit my friend Susanna, who
moved there in July.
My takeaway is everyone must goto Bogota.
I have had I had the best burgerof my life.

SPEAKER_01 (26:52):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (26:52):
I wouldn't like I ate at, we never ate anywhere
under five stars.
We ate at one Michelin starrestaurant.

SPEAKER_01 (26:57):
Work.

SPEAKER_00 (26:58):
Hold on.
I'm getting into the but thebest part of all this.

unknown (27:01):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (27:02):
We got so for one, and everything was so perfectly
made at every restaurant we wentto.
Just to give you an example, wewent to a five-star Italian
restaurant where we got like sixtray things to try, a bottle of
wine, and three desserts, andthe entire bill was$100.

SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
Wow.
I'm moving there.

SPEAKER_00 (27:21):
It gets better.
I took we took maybe 20 Ubersthe whole time, and I just paid
them for them all on mine, andthen we were splitting at the
end.
So when I tallied everything upfor the split, nine dollars a
person.
Over 20 Ubers.

SPEAKER_01 (27:35):
It costs at least$40 minimum wherever you're going.

SPEAKER_00 (27:40):
Cost me$85 to go to the airport.
LAX from here.

SPEAKER_01 (27:43):
It's insane.

SPEAKER_00 (27:44):
So like what?
Then it literally everything wedid was like pennies.
We went to a different cafeevery morning because Columbia
is known for like their coffeeand chocolate.

SPEAKER_02 (27:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (27:54):
So and their where Susanna lives is in this area
where like every third place isa cafe.
And everything is so they putsuch care into their decor and
their vibes that everything isso elevated.
And like you're like sitting inthis cafe that feels like it's
in Beverly Hills, and then youget your check for your two
croissants, your two lattes, andit's four dollars total.

(28:17):
And I'm just like, what?
Something is not adding up.
We went to their like RodeoDrive, which felt exactly like
Rodeo Drive.
It's like security everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 (28:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (28:25):
I mean, the one difference is their security,
and then there's police on a lotof corners holding giant machine
guns.
Yeah.
You know, we felt I felt safethe whole time, honestly, never
in like you don't take the taxicabs, you only take Ubers.
That's like some rules.

SPEAKER_02 (28:38):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (28:38):
But anyway, we went on this Rodeo Drive.
I did not buy anything, but Iwent into like the stores with
we all went in the stores.
Karina ended up buying theselike handmade, hand-stitched,
like 100% cotton shirts thatretail in the US for$280, and
she got it for$30.

SPEAKER_01 (28:54):
Like they're Oh my gosh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 (28:56):
So it's just like stupid how affordable things are
there.
I got a facial, an 80-minutefacial, and it was so weird
because they were playing likespa like covers of pop music.

SPEAKER_01 (29:06):
Oh, yes, I love when they do that at nail salons.

SPEAKER_00 (29:09):
My friend Jonah that I grew up with in the cult, his
music came on.

SPEAKER_01 (29:12):
Was it Christian?
No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 (29:13):
It's he did covers of like popular songs.

SPEAKER_01 (29:15):
Got it.

SPEAKER_00 (29:16):
I was like, this is so bizarre.
I'm in like Columbia and maybeyou should start recording
those.
More of them?

SPEAKER_01 (29:21):
Yeah.
Maybe yours are on theresomewhere.

SPEAKER_00 (29:23):
Maybe.
Um uh so an 80-minute facialwith like a lymphatic drainage
upper body massage,$30.

SPEAKER_02 (29:31):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (29:31):
Then I got an actual massage.
We went to like this, we went toa hotel to get like an actual
body massage and like hang outin the spa facility.
$60.
At a US, it was like Hyatt.

SPEAKER_02 (29:43):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (29:43):
$60.
And I got a 90 minute massageand then got to go like be in
the men's area.
I guess.

SPEAKER_02 (29:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (29:50):
But no one was there.
I was the only dude.
So I just had like the sauna.
No, I had a robe on.
The sauna to myself, the pools,whatever.
Anyway, so the food was amazing.
I had the best burger of my lifeat this restaurant we went to.
To him my last night.
And then um, it was just alittle odd.
It was the only like not odd,but like Susanna still had to
work.
So like it was like Corina and Ijust like were roaming the

(30:10):
streets, kind of exploring onour own.
And it's wild how like goodSusanna speaks English now.
But here's the crazy thing.
She wants us Spanish?
Yeah, what did I say?

SPEAKER_02 (30:18):
It's English Spanish.

SPEAKER_00 (30:19):
She wanted us to meet her work friends because
they're all like we'reinternational like Americans or
Canadians that are working atthis international school.

SPEAKER_01 (30:26):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (30:27):
So we went to play this game called Teho, which is
basically cornhole withexplosives.
I posted a little video if youguys want to see Instagram.
I saw I didn't know what thegoal is to make one of those
things smoke, and that gives youlike three points like in
cornhole.

SPEAKER_02 (30:39):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (30:40):
But if the rock just sticks in the clay, depending on
where it is, kind of like atarget board, points, whatever.
So like I was actually prettygood at this game.
Okay.
As it turns out, anyway, sothat's oh, that's another thing.
So if we two hours of gameplay,it's like bowling.
You pay pay by the hour.
So two hours of gameplay and 20a case of 24 beers for everyone
there.
$16.

(31:03):
Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (31:03):
Um just makes you think like Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (31:06):
So we meet her friends.
I know.
We meet her friends.
One of them is named Fran.
Fran is from Indianapolis.

SPEAKER_01 (31:12):
No way.

SPEAKER_00 (31:13):
She's 29 years old.
She grew up in Indy.
Like, what do you know highschool?
I didn't, I forgot to ask her.
I need to ask her.
We were we clean up connected onInstagram, but she's gay.

SPEAKER_01 (31:21):
Love.

SPEAKER_00 (31:22):
We had so much in common.

SPEAKER_01 (31:23):
Oh my gosh, fun.

SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
And she was really sweet.
I was like, what?
What are the odds?
A Hoosier.

SPEAKER_01 (31:29):
Everywhere we go.
What do you mean?
What are the odds?
You're right.
The odds are high because wemeet someone from Indiana
everywhere we go.

SPEAKER_00 (31:35):
So, like, of course, working with Susanna is a fellow
Hoosier.
Yeah.
Whose middle name is Alexandra.

SPEAKER_01 (31:40):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Maybe it's you.

SPEAKER_00 (31:42):
Maybe it is me.

SPEAKER_01 (31:43):
In a different timeline.

SPEAKER_00 (31:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:45):
Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 (31:45):
Maybe.

SPEAKER_01 (31:47):
Well, wait, what was I gonna ask?
On the Rodeo Drive, was itdesigned like a few years?

SPEAKER_00 (31:52):
Oh, so it wasn't like Gucci.
It was like uh Colombiandesigners.
Got it.
They were still like it was thesame vibe though.
You walk in and they're likeapproach you and stuff, and um
do like their champagne and youcan get coffee, that kind of
thing.
And it's like very sparse, youknow how those there's like a
few things, yeah, but they wereall affordable.

(32:13):
We went into one that was men'sstuff, and I was like, I'm on a
no-buy.
So I was like perusing, butthey're they had these hand
sewn, such hot speedoes, likedesigner would be hundreds of
dollars here.
Yeah, they're$40.

SPEAKER_01 (32:26):
I wish I could learn to sew and make speedoes.
Right.
That'd be we definitely can.
For sure.
All you need is a pattern, andyou get that from formerly
Joanne's fabric.
I don't know where else youwould where you would get it
now.

SPEAKER_00 (32:38):
I would wear a speedo by Allison.

SPEAKER_01 (32:40):
Oh my gosh, should I try?

SPEAKER_00 (32:42):
Active booty extension.

SPEAKER_01 (32:44):
I might try.
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get aspeedo, but I would have to hand
such a lot of things.
I'll be your hand model.

SPEAKER_00 (32:49):
I don't have a I'll be your um fit model so you can
test out the sizing on me andstuff.

SPEAKER_01 (32:54):
I don't have a uh sewing machine, so it would have
to be fully by hand.
So you're just gonna fall apartwhen you get in the water.

SPEAKER_00 (33:00):
All things are possible, it dissolves.
The thread disintegrates.

SPEAKER_01 (33:05):
Speaking of um workers approaching you.
I feel like a few weeks ago, Idon't know if I said this.
Stop me if I did.
But I went into I was in Macy's.
Yeah.
I was like walking.
Yeah, but I was.
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