September 14, 2025 • 27 mins
Introducing Part I in the new "Ask Us Anything" series!
Meet the man behind the scenes! In this episode, Kate welcomes her husband Jason to the podcast for their very first series together, "Ask Us Anything," with laughter, honesty, and heartfelt reflections.
They share the story of their college friendship that grew into marriage, the unexpected quality they most cherish in each other—and how they’ve only truly begun “abiding in His Word together” in recent years. Their vulnerability offers real encouragement for couples at any stage.
Along the way, you’ll hear playful banter, lighthearted debates, and Kate’s honest reflections on her recent surgery and the partnership that has carried them through hard seasons.
This introduction sets the stage for the series ahead on marriage, parenting, discipleship, calling, and healing from church hurt. You’ll feel like you’re sitting down with dear friends who are learning, laughing, and abiding in God’s Word together.
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Kate (00:00):
Hey guys, this is Kate from Abidible and you're
listening to the AbidiblePodcast.
I'm just a regular wife and momwho's had my life transformed
by learning to study the Bibleon my own.
If I can, you can.
On this show, I help you knowand love God more by abiding in
Him through His Word yourself.
(00:21):
Oh my gosh, you guys, we did it.
I got my man on the podcast.
He's sitting right here with me.
Oh my gosh, I'm going to startcrying.
You guys have no idea how muchI love this man.
(00:47):
He is obviously my best friendin the whole world and when he
speaks, I lean in because he'sgot so much wisdom, but also
when he speaks I laugh harderthan with anyone else.
He is the funniest man I know.
His steadfastness, hisfaithfulness in all areas of
life and then just histremendous wisdom are such a
(01:07):
gift to me and I genuinely thinkhe's the better half in this
relationship.
So I'm so excited to bebringing him on the podcast with
me, and I just wanted to sayoff the bat, in this Ask Us
Anything series that we'rebringing to you, these are
questions that you guys havesubmitted to us.
Our goal here is to show God'sglory number one.
Number two is to show our lovefor God himself.
(01:30):
Number three is to show ourlove for the word.
Number four is to show our lovefor each other and then, lastly
, number five is to show ourlove for you guys and the
privilege that we consider it tobe to serve you.
So in this first episode titledOur Story, our Quirks and Our
Favorites, we just have a fewquestions.
This is a little bit more of alighthearted episode to set up
the series and also help us findour rhythm together.
(01:52):
On the podcast, we've got thisseries of questions that we're
going to answer together for you, in the hopes that you can get
to know us just a little bitmore, the people behind Abidible
and sort of what makes us tickso hi.
Jason (02:05):
Hello.
Kate (02:08):
He's really here.
I wasn't making it up.
You're going to kick things off, I think, with the first
question.
Is there anything you wanted tosay before we jump in?
Jason (02:15):
I don't think so.
No, hopefully it'll come out inthe questions.
Kate (02:18):
Yeah, Okay, here we are.
Here we are Very close to themicrophone Uncomfortably close,
and this is normal.
This is normal.
You sound great.
Jason (02:28):
All right.
Kate (02:28):
And you look great.
Thank you, you're very handsome, good, good.
Jason (02:32):
I don't know what to say to that and it's a podcast.
Kate (02:36):
Yep, they can't see us.
I suppose I'll just.
They have to take my word forit.
Jason (02:40):
Hopefully they can't see us.
Kate (02:42):
Nobody's watching.
Jason (02:43):
Okay.
Kate (02:44):
Okay.
Jason (02:45):
All right.
Question number one when youwere a kid, what did you want to
be when you grew up, and howdid that pan out for you?
Kate (02:54):
I wanted to be a teacher.
Well, initially I wanted to bea teacher.
I would make all theneighborhood kids sit in a row
if they weren't available.
I'd make all my dolls orstuffed animals sit in a row and
I would do school.
I would teach them and I wouldcome up with assignments and I
would boss everybody around andI would stand up there and teach
.
I think that probably came fromthe fact that both my parents
were educators and that's what Isaw them doing and loving and
(03:17):
thriving in.
So certainly definitely ateacher.
But then, when I was 17, I'vedefinitely shared this on the
podcast before After I became aChristian, I saw a woman come to
our church for a women'sconference and she stood up
there and taught the word of Godin a way that made people laugh
and made them cry, and God didsomething in the back of the
room.
In my heart, I knew he tapped meon the shoulder and said this
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is what I want you to do, thisis what you're going to do.
And so I marched up to thefront of the room to have a
conversation with her and askher like how did you get here?
What did you study in school?
What do I need to do?
How do I follow in yourfootsteps?
And so I entered college with acommunications major, with a
desire to do that, and then gota little sidetracked by the fear
that how would I provide formyself with that kind of degree
(04:03):
Communication majors?
How do they put food on thetable and have insurance and all
of that?
So I switched temporarily to acareer in education and was
frustrated with God for that,what I considered to be a
confusing season, doing notexactly what I wanted to do.
And then, all these years later, he has faithfully brought me
(04:24):
full circle to the thing that Idesire to do most, which is to
teach God's word to women, makethem laugh, make them cry and
abide in his word with them, Setthem free to know who he is to
know and love him more throughthe study of his word.
How about you?
Jason (04:42):
I wanted to be a sports broadcaster.
Kate (04:45):
Hey, you would have been on the microphone anyway.
Here you are.
You want to tell us some sportsstats while we got you.
Jason (04:51):
Do you want to run around and I'll do like a play-by-play
of what you're doing?
Kate (04:54):
I can't run around yet the doctor hasn't cleared me.
Jason (04:57):
Okay.
Well, that's okay, because itdid not pan out for me, so I
don't know if I'd be able to doit.
Kate (05:01):
I bet you would, so it panned out.
Jason (05:04):
I went in as a business communications major and day one
went to the public speakingclass and either end of day one
or day two I had switched majorsand I had dropped the
communications portion.
Kate (05:18):
Why.
Jason (05:18):
Because I did not think that I could do that.
Kate (05:20):
Speak in front of people.
Jason (05:21):
Mm-mm, not your jam, no, you're more of the background
guy.
I'm definitely the backgroundguy and after I have a lot of
respect for broadcasters knowingall the things that are thrown
at them real time having to filla bunch of space.
I don't think I could fill,yeah, hours of space, so it did
not work out for me, but yeah sowhat do you do now?
(05:44):
I work for the local citygovernment and we do a lot of
contracting with local serviceproviders like shelters,
homeless services, food banks,domestic violence, violence
reduction, mental healthservices, behavioral health nice
.
Kate (06:01):
Yeah, it's a good fit for you because it's so detail
oriented and you are a steadfast, steady, detail oriented guy.
So not something I could do,but this is how God makes us
each of us unique.
Okay, so it's my turn to askyou the next question when did
you meet and what were yourfirst impressions of each other?
Jason (06:20):
We met at college.
I don't know if you knew that.
Kate (06:24):
I didn't.
Jason (06:26):
You're saying like you knew.
So we met at college and firstimpressions or first impression
for me I thought you were verypretty and that was about all I
knew, because you stood me upthe first time that we were
supposed to hang out, so Ididn't know anything else.
Kate (06:45):
Yeah, but I know anything else?
Yeah, but I left it hanging.
Jason (06:48):
Yeah, I thought you were.
Kate (06:48):
I feel like you need to elaborate more on that
conversation that I stood you up.
What does that mean?
That sounds so.
Jason (06:55):
Pretty self-explanatory.
I think people know what thatmeans.
But, for those keeping score athome.
Stood up means you were invitedto come hang out.
Kate (07:07):
You said at home stood up means you were invited to come
hang out.
You said you would and I didn'tand you didn't.
But the backstory to that isthat you and your friend invited
me and my friend to come hangout with you and we felt bad
saying no because we both hadboyfriends back at home and we
felt like that.
We said yes because we were toochicken to say no, thank you.
And then we didn't show up.
But my first impression of youit was more your friend John
that was leading the charge, inthat you were just kind of quiet
(07:29):
.
I thought you were the collegevolleyball team and my RA also
was, and so your RA asked our RAto have us volleyball team
(07:52):
players come and help your guyswith a practice to get ready for
your rec league.
And so I remember being at thatgame with you and you had long
curly hair and you were hot.
I thought I was like who's thistall guy who hits the ball
really hard?
But again, I had a boyfriendback home so there wasn't much I
could do about it.
So we stayed friends really forthree years until both of us
(08:14):
actually were available and nothaving people back home.
And then my other firstimpression of you is that you
are amazing to talk to on thecomputer like Mac Daddy, on AOL
Instant Messenger, like superromantic, thoughtful, great
listener, smart.
You would speak Spanish to me,which was my major.
I was like super impressed withyou and then, when I would see
you in person, you didn't evenacknowledge my presence because
(08:37):
you were so shy in person.
Do you remember?
I can't.
It's like I can't even rememberthat you were that guy that we
would sit at the same table withall of our friends eating a
meal and you would not even likelook my way or acknowledge that
I existed and yet here we are.
Jason (08:51):
Here we are.
Kate (08:51):
It was a long game you won the long game, but you almost
didn't seem like it was weird,but it was all.
No dude, it was a winningstrategy it was, I don't know it
was you were close to likebeing kicked out permanently, I
think.
I was like I'm not sure aboutthis guy.
But finally I do remember that.
The other distinguishing memorythat I have is that one night
that we went for a walk oncampus and you started like
(09:14):
actually talking to me in person, when it was just the two of us
, one-on-one, and you weredescribing your family to me and
I thought, because I was, I'man only child and I always
wanted to be a part of a bigfamily.
My best friend in high schoolhad.
There were 10 kids in theirfamily and I loved going to
their house and I just alwayswanted to be a part of a big
(09:35):
family.
So there you were describingyou know you're one of six and
so describing your family andyour parents and like all your
aunts and uncles and everybodythat was close by, and I thought
, oh my gosh, this I love how hetalks about his family and I
love how he loves his family,particularly your sisters I
remember you talking about.
And so that was like anothersort of like okay, I'm really
starting to fall for this guymoment.
And then we got engaged oursenior year and then yes.
(09:59):
And then married a year aftercollege.
I was from New York, you werefrom Washington, so I moved to
the West Coast and then we wentback to New York a year later
and got married.
And then I've been now inWashington longer than I've been
in New York, because I left NewYork when I was 18 to go to
college in Pennsylvania.
So I'm officially, I guess,more a Washingtonian than I am a
(10:20):
New Yorker, although I willalways be proud to be a New
Yorker.
That's the root baby.
Jason (10:26):
And you should be.
Kate (10:28):
All right.
Jason (10:29):
All right.
Next question what are yourfavorite or unexpected qualities
about each other, something youdidn't initially see or ask God
for, but now cherish?
Kate (10:38):
Mine for sure with you is your steadfastness.
It's something that I respectand admire so much in you, like
there are so many ways that Iwant to be like you where I'm
just like.
This is the most amazing humanbeing that I know, because I
know everything about you.
I watch you in public and thenI watch you in private.
I watch the things that you dowhen nobody's looking, and so
(10:59):
there's so much that I admireabout you, but it's so.
So it's hard to narrow it downto one thing but.
But it's your steadfastness,because historically that's not
been an area where I've beenstrong and very much.
You know energizer, bunny gountil I crash and then I quit.
Very much up and down, highs andlows, emotional rollercoaster
sort of thing based on you knowhow I think other people
(11:20):
perceive what I'm doing or how Iperceive what I'm doing and
abidable in a big way.
Certainly God first gets all theglory and the credit for the
work that he's done in methrough his word.
But second has been youencouraging me and modeling that
for me in a job that's maybenot like your dream job, not
maybe it's not your dream job,but you show up every day for
(11:42):
that, to provide for our familyand our family has security and
insurance and we live a verycomfortable life because of the
man that you are and the workthat you put in that's often
very thankless and very hard andboring, and also just the way
that you care for us around thehouse, the things that you do to
take care of our home.
So I just look at you and I'mlike man, this guy is amazing
(12:03):
and I want to be steadfast likethat and I think I've grown a
lot in steadfastness becauseJesus in me but also following
your example and I didn't thinkthat was, I didn't know that
that was something that I waslooking for or something that I
needed, especially when I'myoung and that's not like I
don't even really think I knewwhat steadfastness was when we
(12:23):
were 22 and got married.
I'm saying it's not something Iwould have had on my list, that
I wanted you to be or that Ithought I would need in a
partner.
Jason (12:31):
Well, my, I don't know if I would say it's favorite, but
combination of favorite andunexpected would be now your
steadfastness also, and I thinkthat's why I say that, because
it's more of the unexpected,just because, like you said,
it's not something thathistorically has been a strength
of yours, but in these last fewyears you know, especially
(12:52):
going through the journey, thatit has been abidable.
That's something that God hascompletely grown in you.
And so now it's something that Ilearn a lot from you in terms
of being steadfast and the waysthat you have continued to
persevere where other times youwould have quit many times over
(13:13):
and just continuing to go nomatter what, just because you
know this is where God has youand until he changes that,
you're going to stay here.
And even when things havegotten difficult, I think there
have been plenty of times when Iwould have thought, okay, it
would make sense right now tochange course or to stop doing
something, or to give up or togive in.
(13:34):
You have not done that recently, so that's probably my new
favorite unexpected quality foryou.
Kate (13:41):
I think I'm listening to you say that and thinking back
to like you know, we did amarriage course in college and
like I remember people saying,like how to find your you know
future spouse?
Like if you're a Christian isto like run as fast as you can
toward Jesus.
And remember this like looknext to you and see who's
running just as fast.
I think we didn't even knowwhat that meant when we were so
(14:04):
young, but it's cool now that hethat's what he's developed in
both of us, like a steadfastnessin him through his word.
I mean this is new, that we'regoing to get into this in the
series, but us abiding in hisword together and as a family.
It's a brand new thing for us.
(14:27):
We've been married 20 years nextyear and this is new in the
last four years, so I think Ifinally understand what that
means.
You know to really be pursuingJesus.
And now he has us aligned inour steadfastness together which
, again, like you said, I knowmyself and even I would say for
you like one of the areas you'revery steadfast in serving and
in showing up and in work.
But I would say like early onin our marriage you weren't
steadfast in your study of God'sword.
Neither of us were so to seeyou being steadfast in that and
(14:49):
sitting at the table everymorning and like choosing that I
mean, neither of us do itperfectly, but choosing that is
just really cool that we'realigned in that and running
toward Jesus together.
Okay, the next question is whatare your favorite things to do
together when we have free timeand what would you consider our
ideal date?
I think we talked about this inepisode six, remember where it
(15:10):
was like here's my ideal dateand here's yours, and they were
very different.
Jason (15:12):
Oh well, let's see if that's changed or if we remember
or if we're cheating off ofthat episode.
I would say kind of a chooseyour own adventure If you take
any combination of being outside, going on a hike, going on a
walk, being by the water,bringing a book, good food, or,
(15:32):
alternatively, we really love towatch good movies or
documentaries or good showstogether too.
So something outside with water, being active, reading, just
enjoying creation, or beinginside on a couch, also with
good food, yeah, yeah.
Kate (15:51):
Yeah, I mean I'm, I'm the same.
I think I think what I'm as I'mhearing you say that what I'm
excited about, I know you guyswho've been following the
podcast know that I just hadmajor surgery Tomorrow will be
three weeks ago for myendometriosis, my stage four
endometriosis and that hasreally, for years and years now,
dramatically impacted my desireto go places and do things
(16:12):
because my body has been in somuch pain.
And so you know what Jasonsigned up for in terms of a wife
who could show up and beexcited and to go on hikes and
to go on adventures and try newthings.
Like that's not who I've beenfor many years, and so now
you're describing that and Ialready, even though I'm healing
, my body still hurts, likealready my mind is like so
(16:33):
excited to go do those things.
Again, I can see how, like asthe inflammation and all of that
that was affecting my energyand my mood, like I've been
depressed for a long time tryingto fight through that.
So I'm excited to get more backto myself so that we can do
some of those things that welove doing together more
frequently.
I mean, we've been home a lotfor a long time and so the couch
(16:55):
and movies and that has beenfun for a season.
But I'm also really excited togo be places and do things with
you again.
We love good food, Trying newrestaurants, Eating is fun.
Jason (17:06):
Are there people that don't like good food, like I
hear people say that, like welove good food, yeah.
Are there people that would belike, yeah, I don't really care
about food?
Kate (17:15):
I don't know.
Yeah, and I would just also addtravel, you, it's not a date,
but our favorite, like we love,love, love going new places,
like not just locally butgetting out of the country,
trying new, being in new placeswith new cultures, and I love
planning trips and I love goingon trips that you plan yeah,
(17:36):
that's a good combination allright question what are some
gifts you love to give eachother?
I feel like in our relationship,you are the better gift giver,
and it's a tricky one for me,because not only do I feel like
I'm not a good gift giver, butmy love language isn't gifts.
Like you know, you could notgive me anything for five years,
(17:56):
but if you wrote notes to meand used your words to encourage
me, that I mean that wouldcarry me a long way.
So, um, I feel like I still,even though we've been married a
long time, I feel like I stillam not great in the gifts
department.
I mean, I try, like if I hearyou mention something, I try and
make a mental note of that, butyou were saying, like when we
(18:17):
were talking briefly about goingthrough this list.
I like what you said and I feellike that's something I need to
implement a little bit more.
Jason (18:23):
Yeah, and I don't do a great job of it, but I just keep
a list.
So, like for me, I have it onOneNote.
There's also an app that westarted to try to use as a
family.
So you can use that with otherpeople, because we have a big
family and so trying to rememberwhat nieces and nephews want
right things like that.
People can load their own thingson there.
This one's such a hard one interms of like for other people
(18:46):
because it's so specific to eachperson, but that's where, for
me, I think you'll bringsomething up and go.
I wish I had something likethis and you just throw it out
there, and maybe we're not in aposition to get it right now,
but I can write a note down formyself because I'm never going
to remember, when Christmascomes or birthday comes, what
were all those things that wassaid throughout the year.
(19:06):
So I try to keep notes.
But I was going to say for you,disney is your thing right now.
So I think I could do anythingDisney related and you'd be
happy.
So I think I could do anythingDisney related and you'd be
happy.
And then, one other thing thatI appreciate about you is that
you don't really care aboutflowers, which lines up for me
because I don't really want tospend money on things that are
(19:27):
going to die after a couple ofdays.
So yeah.
And I did when we were firstmarried, and then you finally
told me you don't really careand I rejoiced and I would buy
them again.
I do sometimes.
Kate (19:41):
But fresh flowers are fun.
I mean, I like getting themoccasionally, but I'm not like a
wife that would be like, okay,you bring me flowers every week
or even for special occasions.
I feel like you know, primarilyfor us as gifts.
We do experiences like you know, we wrap in, you know, birthday
anniversary like into a tripgoing somewhere, cause it's like
I just feel like I don't needone more thing.
But you have done some reallycool bible related gifts, um,
(20:01):
new bibles that you've gotten meor resources for bible study.
Those have been really cool.
Anything bible related is a winbible, disney travel bible,
disney, travel.
Those are my favorites.
All right, what is yourfavorite midnight snack?
Jason (20:15):
I don't really do midnight snacks, but I would say
late night.
I mean, depends on, depends onthe day, but I'm never going to
turn down ice cream.
I knew you were going to saythat, yeah, I can do ice cream
any time of day, any time of theyear, I mean, it just depends
on the day.
Kate (20:33):
I'm the same.
I mean, I like having a goodbowl of ice cream or a good pint
of Ben and Jerry's.
I also love like salt andvinegar chips, like if we're
watching a movie later at night.
But I also you know, we're notmidnight snack people for sure
but I also really can't do thatanymore.
Jason (20:50):
We used to be able to do that when we were younger, but
if I do that now, yeah, and tobe clear, it's not because we're
the healthiest people in theworld, it's just because we
don't tend to eat at midnight.
Kate (20:59):
Yeah right, Maybe 9, 10.
We're usually sleeping 10, 30.
Yeah, I'm a pretty earlymorning riser, except, like
right now my medication is sortof knocking me out.
I've been sleeping in a littlebit more, but normally I mean
sometimes I'm up at 4 or 5o'clock in the morning because
I'm tired.
I'm tired much earlier.
You know, like sometimes I'llwe'll be like starting a movie
(21:21):
or just sitting down on thecouch after dinner and I'll be
like all right and they're likeno, the other days they're like
are you going to bed?
so yeah, I'm not up for midnightsnacks, but sometimes those are
our fun.
I mean a good bowl of popcorn.
Jason (21:33):
I think the best things are when we just kind of look at
each other and we're like apizza would be be good right now
and it's like 11 o'clock andwe're like we really shouldn't
do it, but the times that you do, it's really fun, it is fun.
But then at like 1130, you go.
Kate (21:47):
You have a lot of life regret.
Should we have done that?
Jason (21:49):
No, and you still should have.
But All right.
Last and final question.
Kate (22:01):
If you were able to patent an invention, what would?
Jason (22:03):
it be and why?
Why do I have to go first onthis one?
That's a great questionorganized it.
Kate (22:05):
I don't know if I haven't.
I mean like it would be.
I mean it would be something toget scripture in people's
hearts oh, maybe I should gofirst.
Jason (22:16):
Mine's not that that holy .
Kate (22:17):
Maybe we shouldn't wrap it up on that one, not that holy
Okay.
Jason (22:20):
Okay, go with your not holy invention, okay and then
you can redeem it at the end.
Kate (22:24):
Okay.
Jason (22:25):
I think this was one of the best questions, but it's
also one of the things that forme I'm not good at thinking of
things from scratch.
That's one of the things thatyou're really good at.
One of the things I thoughtabout for the favorite qualities
is that you're really goodabout that.
I'm not good about that, so I'msure there's a great answer to
this, but I do think I have agood one, because it's something
(22:46):
that comes up for me a lot Amovie memory eraser.
Kate (22:51):
Like Men in Black for movies.
Jason (22:53):
Yeah, so after you watch a movie, so like for me, I've
always thought if I could goback and watch Gladiator again
but for the first time.
Because for big thing for me inmovies is when you have an
experience or there's like a bigplot twist or the the goosebump
moment, and once you've hadthat you can never go back and
(23:13):
watch it.
Well, you can, but most normalpeople can't go back and watch a
movie.
He's pointing to me and sayingthat I'm not normal yeah,
because you can watch moviesover and over again and forget
that you've seen them.
But if we could patent thatinvention for regular people
that would be pretty great.
Kate (23:30):
I think it's going to be in heaven yeah, like here's a
reset.
I mean I, that is.
That is very true.
That that is me.
I have historically been knownto be in the last five minutes
of a movie and going oh my gosh,I've seen this before.
This is a great movie.
Jason (23:43):
So maybe we'll tap into you.
Okay, why don't you bring itback around?
Kate (23:46):
But I don't know what I was going to say.
I mean, I think, like Abidibleisn't an invention, but I feel
like I'm sort of living my dreamin terms of like what I?
You know, if I could havecreated anything, it would have
been this, you know, a resourceto help people.
I mean, I just I'm still tryingto figure out how to get it in
front of people and outside oflike my circle.
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So that's like a big prayer,you guys, for Abideable.
Like how do I expand the reachof this?
Because I have such a desire tohelp men and women and children
and families, like just get inthe word and know and love god
more through it.
You guys know that that's mymission.
So I mean, is this an invention?
Jason (24:23):
I can't really call it an invention I don't think so, but
that's okay, it's your podcast,so you can just say it that's
all I got.
I don't have like a cool likeno one's gonna be able to pop on
and challenge you yeah, I'm notlike um stanley, yell nats with
wait, that's the wrong person.
Kate (24:39):
I'm thinking of Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and
the guy with the rubber shoes,right.
Jason (24:44):
The spray-on shoes.
Yeah, he had some good ones.
You should have just watchedthat and picked one of those.
Kate (24:50):
I should have used one of his ideas.
If I could invent anything, itwould be spray-on shoes.
Jason (24:55):
That was like nah.
Kate (24:56):
I would not want spray on shoes because I'm so like
germaphobe and so like you, haveshoes that you wear in a public
restroom and then they have tostay on when you're home walking
around your own house then yourfeet get sweaty in there, you
have to wash.
Jason (25:10):
Yeah, that was not one of his good inventions I strike
that from the record.
Kate (25:15):
Anyway, I think we're at our time.
Hey, we did good we did, we did.
This is another thing thepeople need to know.
If you ever see a typo orgrammatical errors in any
abidable content, you can knowthat Jason did not look at it
before I sent it out, because Iam just prone.
Jason (25:32):
No, you're very good.
Kate (25:33):
I am.
Yeah, I feel like I spell a lotof things wrong and have extra
words in places they're notsupposed to be.
I feel like I spell a lot ofthings wrong and have extra
words in places they're notsupposed to be, and then it's
like, okay, well, this blog postor email went out and Jason
didn't look at it.
Jason (25:44):
You're generally very good.
Kate (25:46):
Well, thank you.
Jason (25:47):
I just have a problem sometimes.
Kate (25:48):
Yeah, all right.
Well, thanks for being on.
Thanks for having me.
How did it go on our first one?
Jason (25:54):
I mean, I can't be the one to tell you that.
Kate (25:56):
I know, but how do you feel?
Like this was a stretch for you, I think it went okay.
Jason (26:00):
It's weird wearing headphones and hearing.
I hate hearing my own voice.
Kate (26:03):
You do.
I love your voice.
The headphone thing is weird.
You guys tell Jason that he hasa great voice.
Jason (26:07):
Well, now I'm not going to be able to believe it, if
they do say it.
Kate (26:09):
Well, okay, but to be fair , honestly, you and I did.
If you guys don't know aboutour how to Study the Bible
course, jason and I taught a20-lesson video course together,
and so many people, babe, havetold me that they love your
voice and that it's soothing.
Jason (26:28):
Well, well, well, Welcome to the podcast.
Kate (26:30):
I think you did great and I'm just really.
I want to publicly thank youfor doing this, because I know
it's out of your comfort zoneand you've signed up for five
episodes Five, we only have fourmore.
You've done one, oh, but guesswhat?
They get a little more intense.
We've got questions coming up,you guys, on marriage and
priorities, on parenting andabiding together, how to do that
with your family, prayer anddiscipleship, calling, waiting
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and walking with God.
And then we're going to closeout with one on the church hurt,
healing and hope.
So stay with us for this series.
So honored to have you with us,we love you, guys, and it's an
honor to try to just show theglory of God through our
marriage, through our company,to reveal to you some of the
ways that we have learned toknow and love him by abiding in
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him, through his word, and howthat's transformed everything
about how we interact with eachother, how we parent, how we
interact with our church and theworld around us.
And so we're glad that you'rehere and we're honored that
you'd give us your time andwe'll see you next time.
Jason (27:29):
Bye-bye.
Kate (27:30):
You're supposed to say until then, let's abide.
Jason (27:33):
I thought that was what you say.
I know, but I can't do, I can'tbe the one.
Yes, you can.
Kate (27:37):
Jason listens to the podcast when he walks to work
every Tuesday and so I alwaysget like a text with sweet
feedback about what he thought.
So I thought if I teed that upfor you, we'll see you next time
.
Jason (27:48):
Until then, let's abide.
Hey guys, this is Kate from Abidible and you're
listening to the AbidiblePodcast.
I'm just a regular wife and momwho's had my life transformed
by learning to study the Bibleon my own.
If I can, you can.
On this show, I help you knowand love God more by abiding in
Him through His Word yourself.
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Oh my gosh, you guys, we did it.
I got my man on the podcast.
He's sitting right here with me.
Oh my gosh, I'm going to startcrying.
You guys have no idea how muchI love this man.
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He is obviously my best friendin the whole world and when he
speaks, I lean in because he'sgot so much wisdom, but also
when he speaks I laugh harderthan with anyone else.
He is the funniest man I know.
His steadfastness, hisfaithfulness in all areas of
life and then just histremendous wisdom are such a
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gift to me and I genuinely thinkhe's the better half in this
relationship.
So I'm so excited to bebringing him on the podcast with
me, and I just wanted to sayoff the bat, in this Ask Us
Anything series that we'rebringing to you, these are
questions that you guys havesubmitted to us.
Our goal here is to show God'sglory number one.
Number two is to show our lovefor God himself.
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Number three is to show ourlove for the word.
Number four is to show our lovefor each other and then, lastly
, number five is to show ourlove for you guys and the
privilege that we consider it tobe to serve you.
So in this first episode titledOur Story, our Quirks and Our
Favorites, we just have a fewquestions.
This is a little bit more of alighthearted episode to set up
the series and also help us findour rhythm together.
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On the podcast, we've got thisseries of questions that we're
going to answer together for you, in the hopes that you can get
to know us just a little bitmore, the people behind Abidible
and sort of what makes us tickso hi.
Jason (02:05):
Hello.
Kate (02:08):
He's really here.
I wasn't making it up.
You're going to kick things off, I think, with the first
question.
Is there anything you wanted tosay before we jump in?
Jason (02:15):
I don't think so.
No, hopefully it'll come out inthe questions.
Kate (02:18):
Yeah, Okay, here we are.
Here we are Very close to themicrophone Uncomfortably close,
and this is normal.
This is normal.
You sound great.
Jason (02:28):
All right.
Kate (02:28):
And you look great.
Thank you, you're very handsome, good, good.
Jason (02:32):
I don't know what to say to that and it's a podcast.
Kate (02:36):
Yep, they can't see us.
I suppose I'll just.
They have to take my word forit.
Jason (02:40):
Hopefully they can't see us.
Kate (02:42):
Nobody's watching.
Jason (02:43):
Okay.
Kate (02:44):
Okay.
Jason (02:45):
All right.
Question number one when youwere a kid, what did you want to
be when you grew up, and howdid that pan out for you?
Kate (02:54):
I wanted to be a teacher.
Well, initially I wanted to bea teacher.
I would make all theneighborhood kids sit in a row
if they weren't available.
I'd make all my dolls orstuffed animals sit in a row and
I would do school.
I would teach them and I wouldcome up with assignments and I
would boss everybody around andI would stand up there and teach
.
I think that probably came fromthe fact that both my parents
were educators and that's what Isaw them doing and loving and
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thriving in.
So certainly definitely ateacher.
But then, when I was 17, I'vedefinitely shared this on the
podcast before After I became aChristian, I saw a woman come to
our church for a women'sconference and she stood up
there and taught the word of Godin a way that made people laugh
and made them cry, and God didsomething in the back of the
room.
In my heart, I knew he tapped meon the shoulder and said this
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is what I want you to do, thisis what you're going to do.
And so I marched up to thefront of the room to have a
conversation with her and askher like how did you get here?
What did you study in school?
What do I need to do?
How do I follow in yourfootsteps?
And so I entered college with acommunications major, with a
desire to do that, and then gota little sidetracked by the fear
that how would I provide formyself with that kind of degree
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Communication majors?
How do they put food on thetable and have insurance and all
of that?
So I switched temporarily to acareer in education and was
frustrated with God for that,what I considered to be a
confusing season, doing notexactly what I wanted to do.
And then, all these years later, he has faithfully brought me
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full circle to the thing that Idesire to do most, which is to
teach God's word to women, makethem laugh, make them cry and
abide in his word with them, Setthem free to know who he is to
know and love him more throughthe study of his word.
How about you?
Jason (04:42):
I wanted to be a sports broadcaster.
Kate (04:45):
Hey, you would have been on the microphone anyway.
Here you are.
You want to tell us some sportsstats while we got you.
Jason (04:51):
Do you want to run around and I'll do like a play-by-play
of what you're doing?
Kate (04:54):
I can't run around yet the doctor hasn't cleared me.
Jason (04:57):
Okay.
Well, that's okay, because itdid not pan out for me, so I
don't know if I'd be able to doit.
Kate (05:01):
I bet you would, so it panned out.
Jason (05:04):
I went in as a business communications major and day one
went to the public speakingclass and either end of day one
or day two I had switched majorsand I had dropped the
communications portion.
Kate (05:18):
Why.
Jason (05:18):
Because I did not think that I could do that.
Kate (05:20):
Speak in front of people.
Jason (05:21):
Mm-mm, not your jam, no, you're more of the background
guy.
I'm definitely the backgroundguy and after I have a lot of
respect for broadcasters knowingall the things that are thrown
at them real time having to filla bunch of space.
I don't think I could fill,yeah, hours of space, so it did
not work out for me, but yeah sowhat do you do now?
(05:44):
I work for the local citygovernment and we do a lot of
contracting with local serviceproviders like shelters,
homeless services, food banks,domestic violence, violence
reduction, mental healthservices, behavioral health nice
.
Kate (06:01):
Yeah, it's a good fit for you because it's so detail
oriented and you are a steadfast, steady, detail oriented guy.
So not something I could do,but this is how God makes us
each of us unique.
Okay, so it's my turn to askyou the next question when did
you meet and what were yourfirst impressions of each other?
Jason (06:20):
We met at college.
I don't know if you knew that.
Kate (06:24):
I didn't.
Jason (06:26):
You're saying like you knew.
So we met at college and firstimpressions or first impression
for me I thought you were verypretty and that was about all I
knew, because you stood me upthe first time that we were
supposed to hang out, so Ididn't know anything else.
Kate (06:45):
Yeah, but I know anything else?
Yeah, but I left it hanging.
Jason (06:48):
Yeah, I thought you were.
Kate (06:48):
I feel like you need to elaborate more on that
conversation that I stood you up.
What does that mean?
That sounds so.
Jason (06:55):
Pretty self-explanatory.
I think people know what thatmeans.
But, for those keeping score athome.
Stood up means you were invitedto come hang out.
Kate (07:07):
You said at home stood up means you were invited to come
hang out.
You said you would and I didn'tand you didn't.
But the backstory to that isthat you and your friend invited
me and my friend to come hangout with you and we felt bad
saying no because we both hadboyfriends back at home and we
felt like that.
We said yes because we were toochicken to say no, thank you.
And then we didn't show up.
But my first impression of youit was more your friend John
that was leading the charge, inthat you were just kind of quiet
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.
I thought you were the collegevolleyball team and my RA also
was, and so your RA asked our RAto have us volleyball team
(07:52):
players come and help your guyswith a practice to get ready for
your rec league.
And so I remember being at thatgame with you and you had long
curly hair and you were hot.
I thought I was like who's thistall guy who hits the ball
really hard?
But again, I had a boyfriendback home so there wasn't much I
could do about it.
So we stayed friends really forthree years until both of us
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actually were available and nothaving people back home.
And then my other firstimpression of you is that you
are amazing to talk to on thecomputer like Mac Daddy, on AOL
Instant Messenger, like superromantic, thoughtful, great
listener, smart.
You would speak Spanish to me,which was my major.
I was like super impressed withyou and then, when I would see
you in person, you didn't evenacknowledge my presence because
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you were so shy in person.
Do you remember?
I can't.
It's like I can't even rememberthat you were that guy that we
would sit at the same table withall of our friends eating a
meal and you would not even likelook my way or acknowledge that
I existed and yet here we are.
Jason (08:51):
Here we are.
Kate (08:51):
It was a long game you won the long game, but you almost
didn't seem like it was weird,but it was all.
No dude, it was a winningstrategy it was, I don't know it
was you were close to likebeing kicked out permanently, I
think.
I was like I'm not sure aboutthis guy.
But finally I do remember that.
The other distinguishing memorythat I have is that one night
that we went for a walk oncampus and you started like
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actually talking to me in person, when it was just the two of us
, one-on-one, and you weredescribing your family to me and
I thought, because I was, I'man only child and I always
wanted to be a part of a bigfamily.
My best friend in high schoolhad.
There were 10 kids in theirfamily and I loved going to
their house and I just alwayswanted to be a part of a big
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family.
So there you were describingyou know you're one of six and
so describing your family andyour parents and like all your
aunts and uncles and everybodythat was close by, and I thought
, oh my gosh, this I love how hetalks about his family and I
love how he loves his family,particularly your sisters I
remember you talking about.
And so that was like anothersort of like okay, I'm really
starting to fall for this guymoment.
And then we got engaged oursenior year and then yes.
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And then married a year aftercollege.
I was from New York, you werefrom Washington, so I moved to
the West Coast and then we wentback to New York a year later
and got married.
And then I've been now inWashington longer than I've been
in New York, because I left NewYork when I was 18 to go to
college in Pennsylvania.
So I'm officially, I guess,more a Washingtonian than I am a
(10:20):
New Yorker, although I willalways be proud to be a New
Yorker.
That's the root baby.
Jason (10:26):
And you should be.
Kate (10:28):
All right.
Jason (10:29):
All right.
Next question what are yourfavorite or unexpected qualities
about each other, something youdidn't initially see or ask God
for, but now cherish?
Kate (10:38):
Mine for sure with you is your steadfastness.
It's something that I respectand admire so much in you, like
there are so many ways that Iwant to be like you where I'm
just like.
This is the most amazing humanbeing that I know, because I
know everything about you.
I watch you in public and thenI watch you in private.
I watch the things that you dowhen nobody's looking, and so
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there's so much that I admireabout you, but it's so.
So it's hard to narrow it downto one thing but.
But it's your steadfastness,because historically that's not
been an area where I've beenstrong and very much.
You know energizer, bunny gountil I crash and then I quit.
Very much up and down, highs andlows, emotional rollercoaster
sort of thing based on you knowhow I think other people
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perceive what I'm doing or how Iperceive what I'm doing and
abidable in a big way.
Certainly God first gets all theglory and the credit for the
work that he's done in methrough his word.
But second has been youencouraging me and modeling that
for me in a job that's maybenot like your dream job, not
maybe it's not your dream job,but you show up every day for
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that, to provide for our familyand our family has security and
insurance and we live a verycomfortable life because of the
man that you are and the workthat you put in that's often
very thankless and very hard andboring, and also just the way
that you care for us around thehouse, the things that you do to
take care of our home.
So I just look at you and I'mlike man, this guy is amazing
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and I want to be steadfast likethat and I think I've grown a
lot in steadfastness becauseJesus in me but also following
your example and I didn't thinkthat was, I didn't know that
that was something that I waslooking for or something that I
needed, especially when I'myoung and that's not like I
don't even really think I knewwhat steadfastness was when we
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were 22 and got married.
I'm saying it's not something Iwould have had on my list, that
I wanted you to be or that Ithought I would need in a
partner.
Jason (12:31):
Well, my, I don't know if I would say it's favorite, but
combination of favorite andunexpected would be now your
steadfastness also, and I thinkthat's why I say that, because
it's more of the unexpected,just because, like you said,
it's not something thathistorically has been a strength
of yours, but in these last fewyears you know, especially
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going through the journey, thatit has been abidable.
That's something that God hascompletely grown in you.
And so now it's something that Ilearn a lot from you in terms
of being steadfast and the waysthat you have continued to
persevere where other times youwould have quit many times over
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and just continuing to go nomatter what, just because you
know this is where God has youand until he changes that,
you're going to stay here.
And even when things havegotten difficult, I think there
have been plenty of times when Iwould have thought, okay, it
would make sense right now tochange course or to stop doing
something, or to give up or togive in.
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You have not done that recently, so that's probably my new
favorite unexpected quality foryou.
Kate (13:41):
I think I'm listening to you say that and thinking back
to like you know, we did amarriage course in college and
like I remember people saying,like how to find your you know
future spouse?
Like if you're a Christian isto like run as fast as you can
toward Jesus.
And remember this like looknext to you and see who's
running just as fast.
I think we didn't even knowwhat that meant when we were so
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young, but it's cool now that hethat's what he's developed in
both of us, like a steadfastnessin him through his word.
I mean this is new, that we'regoing to get into this in the
series, but us abiding in hisword together and as a family.
It's a brand new thing for us.
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We've been married 20 years nextyear and this is new in the
last four years, so I think Ifinally understand what that
means.
You know to really be pursuingJesus.
And now he has us aligned inour steadfastness together which
, again, like you said, I knowmyself and even I would say for
you like one of the areas you'revery steadfast in serving and
in showing up and in work.
But I would say like early onin our marriage you weren't
steadfast in your study of God'sword.
Neither of us were so to seeyou being steadfast in that and
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sitting at the table everymorning and like choosing that I
mean, neither of us do itperfectly, but choosing that is
just really cool that we'realigned in that and running
toward Jesus together.
Okay, the next question is whatare your favorite things to do
together when we have free timeand what would you consider our
ideal date?
I think we talked about this inepisode six, remember where it
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was like here's my ideal dateand here's yours, and they were
very different.
Jason (15:12):
Oh well, let's see if that's changed or if we remember
or if we're cheating off ofthat episode.
I would say kind of a chooseyour own adventure If you take
any combination of being outside, going on a hike, going on a
walk, being by the water,bringing a book, good food, or,
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alternatively, we really love towatch good movies or
documentaries or good showstogether too.
So something outside with water, being active, reading, just
enjoying creation, or beinginside on a couch, also with
good food, yeah, yeah.
Kate (15:51):
Yeah, I mean I'm, I'm the same.
I think I think what I'm as I'mhearing you say that what I'm
excited about, I know you guyswho've been following the
podcast know that I just hadmajor surgery Tomorrow will be
three weeks ago for myendometriosis, my stage four
endometriosis and that hasreally, for years and years now,
dramatically impacted my desireto go places and do things
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because my body has been in somuch pain.
And so you know what Jasonsigned up for in terms of a wife
who could show up and beexcited and to go on hikes and
to go on adventures and try newthings.
Like that's not who I've beenfor many years, and so now
you're describing that and Ialready, even though I'm healing
, my body still hurts, likealready my mind is like so
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excited to go do those things.
Again, I can see how, like asthe inflammation and all of that
that was affecting my energyand my mood, like I've been
depressed for a long time tryingto fight through that.
So I'm excited to get more backto myself so that we can do
some of those things that welove doing together more
frequently.
I mean, we've been home a lotfor a long time and so the couch
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and movies and that has beenfun for a season.
But I'm also really excited togo be places and do things with
you again.
We love good food, Trying newrestaurants, Eating is fun.
Jason (17:06):
Are there people that don't like good food, like I
hear people say that, like welove good food, yeah.
Are there people that would belike, yeah, I don't really care
about food?
Kate (17:15):
I don't know.
Yeah, and I would just also addtravel, you, it's not a date,
but our favorite, like we love,love, love going new places,
like not just locally butgetting out of the country,
trying new, being in new placeswith new cultures, and I love
planning trips and I love goingon trips that you plan yeah,
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that's a good combination allright question what are some
gifts you love to give eachother?
I feel like in our relationship,you are the better gift giver,
and it's a tricky one for me,because not only do I feel like
I'm not a good gift giver, butmy love language isn't gifts.
Like you know, you could notgive me anything for five years,
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but if you wrote notes to meand used your words to encourage
me, that I mean that wouldcarry me a long way.
So, um, I feel like I still,even though we've been married a
long time, I feel like I stillam not great in the gifts
department.
I mean, I try, like if I hearyou mention something, I try and
make a mental note of that, butyou were saying, like when we
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were talking briefly about goingthrough this list.
I like what you said and I feellike that's something I need to
implement a little bit more.
Jason (18:23):
Yeah, and I don't do a great job of it, but I just keep
a list.
So, like for me, I have it onOneNote.
There's also an app that westarted to try to use as a
family.
So you can use that with otherpeople, because we have a big
family and so trying to rememberwhat nieces and nephews want
right things like that.
People can load their own thingson there.
This one's such a hard one interms of like for other people
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because it's so specific to eachperson, but that's where, for
me, I think you'll bringsomething up and go.
I wish I had something likethis and you just throw it out
there, and maybe we're not in aposition to get it right now,
but I can write a note down formyself because I'm never going
to remember, when Christmascomes or birthday comes, what
were all those things that wassaid throughout the year.
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So I try to keep notes.
But I was going to say for you,disney is your thing right now.
So I think I could do anythingDisney related and you'd be
happy.
So I think I could do anythingDisney related and you'd be
happy.
And then, one other thing thatI appreciate about you is that
you don't really care aboutflowers, which lines up for me
because I don't really want tospend money on things that are
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going to die after a couple ofdays.
So yeah.
And I did when we were firstmarried, and then you finally
told me you don't really careand I rejoiced and I would buy
them again.
I do sometimes.
Kate (19:41):
But fresh flowers are fun.
I mean, I like getting themoccasionally, but I'm not like a
wife that would be like, okay,you bring me flowers every week
or even for special occasions.
I feel like you know, primarilyfor us as gifts.
We do experiences like you know, we wrap in, you know, birthday
anniversary like into a tripgoing somewhere, cause it's like
I just feel like I don't needone more thing.
But you have done some reallycool bible related gifts, um,
(20:01):
new bibles that you've gotten meor resources for bible study.
Those have been really cool.
Anything bible related is a winbible, disney travel bible,
disney, travel.
Those are my favorites.
All right, what is yourfavorite midnight snack?
Jason (20:15):
I don't really do midnight snacks, but I would say
late night.
I mean, depends on, depends onthe day, but I'm never going to
turn down ice cream.
I knew you were going to saythat, yeah, I can do ice cream
any time of day, any time of theyear, I mean, it just depends
on the day.
Kate (20:33):
I'm the same.
I mean, I like having a goodbowl of ice cream or a good pint
of Ben and Jerry's.
I also love like salt andvinegar chips, like if we're
watching a movie later at night.
But I also you know, we're notmidnight snack people for sure
but I also really can't do thatanymore.
Jason (20:50):
We used to be able to do that when we were younger, but
if I do that now, yeah, and tobe clear, it's not because we're
the healthiest people in theworld, it's just because we
don't tend to eat at midnight.
Kate (20:59):
Yeah right, Maybe 9, 10.
We're usually sleeping 10, 30.
Yeah, I'm a pretty earlymorning riser, except, like
right now my medication is sortof knocking me out.
I've been sleeping in a littlebit more, but normally I mean
sometimes I'm up at 4 or 5o'clock in the morning because
I'm tired.
I'm tired much earlier.
You know, like sometimes I'llwe'll be like starting a movie
(21:21):
or just sitting down on thecouch after dinner and I'll be
like all right and they're likeno, the other days they're like
are you going to bed?
so yeah, I'm not up for midnightsnacks, but sometimes those are
our fun.
I mean a good bowl of popcorn.
Jason (21:33):
I think the best things are when we just kind of look at
each other and we're like apizza would be be good right now
and it's like 11 o'clock andwe're like we really shouldn't
do it, but the times that you do, it's really fun, it is fun.
But then at like 1130, you go.
Kate (21:47):
You have a lot of life regret.
Should we have done that?
Jason (21:49):
No, and you still should have.
But All right.
Last and final question.
Kate (22:01):
If you were able to patent an invention, what would?
Jason (22:03):
it be and why?
Why do I have to go first onthis one?
That's a great questionorganized it.
Kate (22:05):
I don't know if I haven't.
I mean like it would be.
I mean it would be something toget scripture in people's
hearts oh, maybe I should gofirst.
Jason (22:16):
Mine's not that that holy .
Kate (22:17):
Maybe we shouldn't wrap it up on that one, not that holy
Okay.
Jason (22:20):
Okay, go with your not holy invention, okay and then
you can redeem it at the end.
Kate (22:24):
Okay.
Jason (22:25):
I think this was one of the best questions, but it's
also one of the things that forme I'm not good at thinking of
things from scratch.
That's one of the things thatyou're really good at.
One of the things I thoughtabout for the favorite qualities
is that you're really goodabout that.
I'm not good about that, so I'msure there's a great answer to
this, but I do think I have agood one, because it's something
(22:46):
that comes up for me a lot Amovie memory eraser.
Kate (22:51):
Like Men in Black for movies.
Jason (22:53):
Yeah, so after you watch a movie, so like for me, I've
always thought if I could goback and watch Gladiator again
but for the first time.
Because for big thing for me inmovies is when you have an
experience or there's like a bigplot twist or the the goosebump
moment, and once you've hadthat you can never go back and
(23:13):
watch it.
Well, you can, but most normalpeople can't go back and watch a
movie.
He's pointing to me and sayingthat I'm not normal yeah,
because you can watch moviesover and over again and forget
that you've seen them.
But if we could patent thatinvention for regular people
that would be pretty great.
Kate (23:30):
I think it's going to be in heaven yeah, like here's a
reset.
I mean I, that is.
That is very true.
That that is me.
I have historically been knownto be in the last five minutes
of a movie and going oh my gosh,I've seen this before.
This is a great movie.
Jason (23:43):
So maybe we'll tap into you.
Okay, why don't you bring itback around?
Kate (23:46):
But I don't know what I was going to say.
I mean, I think, like Abidibleisn't an invention, but I feel
like I'm sort of living my dreamin terms of like what I?
You know, if I could havecreated anything, it would have
been this, you know, a resourceto help people.
I mean, I just I'm still tryingto figure out how to get it in
front of people and outside oflike my circle.
(24:08):
So that's like a big prayer,you guys, for Abideable.
Like how do I expand the reachof this?
Because I have such a desire tohelp men and women and children
and families, like just get inthe word and know and love god
more through it.
You guys know that that's mymission.
So I mean, is this an invention?
Jason (24:23):
I can't really call it an invention I don't think so, but
that's okay, it's your podcast,so you can just say it that's
all I got.
I don't have like a cool likeno one's gonna be able to pop on
and challenge you yeah, I'm notlike um stanley, yell nats with
wait, that's the wrong person.
Kate (24:39):
I'm thinking of Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and
the guy with the rubber shoes,right.
Jason (24:44):
The spray-on shoes.
Yeah, he had some good ones.
You should have just watchedthat and picked one of those.
Kate (24:50):
I should have used one of his ideas.
If I could invent anything, itwould be spray-on shoes.
Jason (24:55):
That was like nah.
Kate (24:56):
I would not want spray on shoes because I'm so like
germaphobe and so like you, haveshoes that you wear in a public
restroom and then they have tostay on when you're home walking
around your own house then yourfeet get sweaty in there, you
have to wash.
Jason (25:10):
Yeah, that was not one of his good inventions I strike
that from the record.
Kate (25:15):
Anyway, I think we're at our time.
Hey, we did good we did, we did.
This is another thing thepeople need to know.
If you ever see a typo orgrammatical errors in any
abidable content, you can knowthat Jason did not look at it
before I sent it out, because Iam just prone.
Jason (25:32):
No, you're very good.
Kate (25:33):
I am.
Yeah, I feel like I spell a lotof things wrong and have extra
words in places they're notsupposed to be.
I feel like I spell a lot ofthings wrong and have extra
words in places they're notsupposed to be, and then it's
like, okay, well, this blog postor email went out and Jason
didn't look at it.
Jason (25:44):
You're generally very good.
Kate (25:46):
Well, thank you.
Jason (25:47):
I just have a problem sometimes.
Kate (25:48):
Yeah, all right.
Well, thanks for being on.
Thanks for having me.
How did it go on our first one?
Jason (25:54):
I mean, I can't be the one to tell you that.
Kate (25:56):
I know, but how do you feel?
Like this was a stretch for you, I think it went okay.
Jason (26:00):
It's weird wearing headphones and hearing.
I hate hearing my own voice.
Kate (26:03):
You do.
I love your voice.
The headphone thing is weird.
You guys tell Jason that he hasa great voice.
Jason (26:07):
Well, now I'm not going to be able to believe it, if
they do say it.
Kate (26:09):
Well, okay, but to be fair , honestly, you and I did.
If you guys don't know aboutour how to Study the Bible
course, jason and I taught a20-lesson video course together,
and so many people, babe, havetold me that they love your
voice and that it's soothing.
Jason (26:28):
Well, well, well, Welcome to the podcast.
Kate (26:30):
I think you did great and I'm just really.
I want to publicly thank youfor doing this, because I know
it's out of your comfort zoneand you've signed up for five
episodes Five, we only have fourmore.
You've done one, oh, but guesswhat?
They get a little more intense.
We've got questions coming up,you guys, on marriage and
priorities, on parenting andabiding together, how to do that
with your family, prayer anddiscipleship, calling, waiting
(26:53):
and walking with God.
And then we're going to closeout with one on the church hurt,
healing and hope.
So stay with us for this series.
So honored to have you with us,we love you, guys, and it's an
honor to try to just show theglory of God through our
marriage, through our company,to reveal to you some of the
ways that we have learned toknow and love him by abiding in
(27:15):
him, through his word, and howthat's transformed everything
about how we interact with eachother, how we parent, how we
interact with our church and theworld around us.
And so we're glad that you'rehere and we're honored that
you'd give us your time andwe'll see you next time.
Jason (27:29):
Bye-bye.
Kate (27:30):
You're supposed to say until then, let's abide.
Jason (27:33):
I thought that was what you say.
I know, but I can't do, I can'tbe the one.
Yes, you can.
Kate (27:37):
Jason listens to the podcast when he walks to work
every Tuesday and so I alwaysget like a text with sweet
feedback about what he thought.
So I thought if I teed that upfor you, we'll see you next time
.
Jason (27:48):
Until then, let's abide.
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