August 27, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode, the Adopt Twins Meg and Billy delve into a lively discussion about acting auditions and the challenges of booking roles. They touch on the successes and near-misses of Meg's child—aptly nicknamed 'the tiny human'—in the world of entertainment. Dive into their reflections on adoption, the amusing realities of therapy, and the emotional resonance Meg finds in BTS's return. With laughter and heartfelt moments, they share how family, therapy, and unexpected encounters shape their adventurous lives.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hi, this is Meg.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And this is Billy.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And we are.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The Adopt Twins.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Meg and this is Billy , and we are the Adopt Twins.
Welcome to a podcast from twoadoptees who are navigating life
loss, moving on and growing up.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
For our adopted friends.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We hope to bring you a familiar point of view,
submitting for work, and I'vebeen auditioning a little bit
and I've been booking, nothingbut the tiny human has a manager
(00:58):
now.
Hey, congrats to the tiny human.
Yes, yeah, and so foreverything he submits, for he
gets called for an audition forabout half of them good and then
from there he gets shortlistedmost of the time, but he hasn't
booked anything yet is he mostlygoing for uh film?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
um, it's been all sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's been all sorts of things.
It's been like promos fordifferent like TV shows that are
coming up, some commercialstuff.
I'm not sure if there was anyfilm stuff yet.
Through the agent, I think Ihave had some with him, but
previously to signing him, um,so, yeah, I, so I've definitely
(01:52):
um, it's I I don't know aboutfor you, but for me being around
actors always kind of makes mea better actor, if you will.
Yeah, here, I'm never aroundactors at all, but hopefully the
tiny human starts booking andso then I'll be living with an
actor.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's.
I couldn't agree more.
It's.
It's so important to like havethe immersion where it's just
hey, can we, can we talk shopreal quick Right.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And have people understand it.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh yeah, and have people like be respectful of the
process.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Where?
Yeah, I, that's, that's.
Yeah, that's awesome.
But I can imagine, yeah, thatpart of connecticut kind of hard
to be like all right.
Well, here we are again, the17th day in a row on set, like
that's yeah a little differentso, so I was hoping Malcolm
could have helped me out.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He did text me back, by the way, though.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh, he did.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yes, and he said that he would pass my name along.
So whether he did or not, Iwant to just, in my head, assume
he did.
But the movie takes place inthe 70s and you know, asian
people weren't around in the 70s.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It's a small world.
Proved anything, it's that thehistory.
Contributions from Asianculture Don't matter.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Exactly We've done nothing.
I'm choosing to believe.
That's why I haven't gotten thecall.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Makes sense.
Probably he'll video you WithBTS Be like hey, sorry it's been
a while, but we love you.
Here's a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Today is BTS day.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh, that's why I've been having such a good day such
a good day.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's their anniversary from when they
debuted.
Their oldest member, who wasthe first to go into the
military, came home and he gavea performance and he kept saying
I haven't sang in a year and ahalf.
I'm so nervous, I'm embarrassedand blah, blah, blah.
And he did a beautiful job.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh, my gosh, oh, if every serviceman returning
followed that trajectory, thatwould be hilarious for culture.
Welcome home, now perform.
I've really seen some shit guys.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
We don't care about that.
It's time to sing and dance.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
He said I haven't adjusted to life yet, this poor
guy.
And I cried so much too, justthe whole emotion of everything.
My favorite member, who left inSeptember and last gave an
update in August where we couldsee him.
He wrote a little thing inSeptember that said I'm here,
and then has been radio silentsince we finally got a picture
(04:36):
of him because they all took aday off, a day of leave, to
welcome Jin home.
Oh nice welcome Jin home.
Oh nice, it is a beautifulcouple of days, though.
I bawled my eyes out because Imissed my child a lot yesterday,
and I bawled my eyes out withmy therapist this morning, and I
bawled my eyes out watchingJin's performance.
So, despite all that, it's abeautiful day.
(04:57):
She did say that she doesn'tthink my meds are working, and I
should call a psychiatrist,though.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You win some, you lose some.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Exactly.
You know, I've learned throughtherapy that you just have to
celebrate the little wins andBTS is coming back together.
There's no more so-and-so isleaving.
It is now all so-and-so is back.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know what?
I don't think you need any moremeds.
You got everything you need,knowing that the world is going
to be just fine that's right,because bts is coming back
they're coming back they are,and next time maybe they will.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Um, well, I guess in october.
Well, I mean, I will be therewhen j-hope gets out of the
military, and j-hope is from thesame hometown as I am, oh
interesting yeah, I fly on the16th and he comes home on the
17th and I didn't even plan that, like I looked that up today,
when each person's likedischarge day was gonna be so
(05:52):
maybe I'll see him around, we'llsee.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It sounds like it sounds like fate that's right,
that's right but I could neverdate him because we could be
related.
You know, that is one of thethings that us adoptees always
have to keep in mind.
(06:14):
All right, we're going to takea chance If it starts to feel a
little familiar.
We're going to have to stopwhat Never mind.
I should have kept that.
To stop what Nevermind I should.
I should have kept.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I should have kept that thought inside, but I don't
like I've found myself finallyin my life being attracted to
Asian men.
Hey, get it.
And so I um was talking to thisguy over winter and we never
ended up meeting.
It became a whole thing.
But anyways, I was like wherein Korea are your parents from
exactly?
And then he was like I don'tknow, I'll ask them why.
And I'm like, well, because Ijust always have this fear that
(06:56):
I may be related to someone.
It's like oh, I was like yeah,Adoption foreplay 101.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Hey, could you be my brother?
What?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do you by any chance know if your mother gave a child
up before she had you?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
How about after?
Because, you know, I don'treally know how old I am.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Could you call them and see if they have any friends
who did that?
Can I actually video?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
with them.
I'd like to see how much I looklike them yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Is it okay if we order appetizers first, or?
Oh, you want this now.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I see why you've dated non-Asian men in the past.
Yeah, that's fun.
That's fun, that's fun for all.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
What a journey.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So my kid is learning to write and those types of
things.
First grade he just finishedand they had him do this thing
about his mother for Mother'sDay, all these fill-in-the-blank
things, and I've seen a lot ofhilarious ones online and stuff.
People post them and everything, and so at one point on it,
(08:17):
most of it, fine, yes, makessense, sure, uh-huh, uh-huh.
He did say I was like 16 feettall, though, so that's
something.
But then when 16 feet, yeah, 16, um she he said um, something
about.
I don't know if it said what Ilike.
I think it was like what I liketo do, what I like to wear blah
(08:38):
, blah, blah, kind of things,and it said what I like to wear
bts clothes, what I like to do.
My mother is and I could see,because it wasn't erased very
well, a two and a six and thatwas erased, but I'll take it 26.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'll take it 26, perfect.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, he erased it and put question marks in, and
when I was looking at it and hewas explaining it all to me,
he's like yeah, that's becausewe don't know how old you are
was explaining it all to me.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He's like yeah, that's because we don't know how
old you are, he's like.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's why there's question marks, because question
marks mean you don't know, I'mlike mm-hmm, yeah, yep, fun
telling the teacher all aboutthat one yeah, oh, he had to do
one about his teacher for theend of school and there's a
picture that he had to draw ofhis teacher and it's this person
and a big like word bubblecoming out that says stop oh my
god and I'm like what, what isthis?
(09:32):
he's like she always tells us tostop whatever we're doing, stop
, stop.
And I'm like did miss, did yourteacher see this?
And and he was like, yeah, I'mlike what, what did your teacher
have to say about this?
And and he was like I don'tknow.
But as I was walking away,heard her say to the other
(09:53):
teachers that were there ohgreat, he drew a picture of me
yelling.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
That seems like it's on her.
I'll be honest yeah, maybe yellless.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But I'm not a teacher .
I can never, I can never, no.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I could never.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But no, that is that is.
That is funny to see hisperspective of the world and how
, what, what he picks up on andwhat.
What is just general truth isfor people that I am a 26 year
old giant giant that sleeps allthe time in bts shirts, slumbers
in bts, and the teacher, whohas a life outside of school
with family and bills and hopesand dreams, is just a monster
that screams well, leo's nowobsessed with broadway because
(10:50):
he's learned his teacher goesevery month to Broadway.
Ooh, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So it's gotten me to be like.
He's been asking to see Aladdinon Broadway since he was two
and a half.
But I'm not bringing a two anda half year old to see Aladdin,
no, but I did finally buytickets for this summer, so he
will finally see it.
Oh that's exciting.
His other side bought ticketsfor the Lion King for a few days
(11:17):
after I bring him to Aladdin.
And the Lion King is my favoriteDisney of all time and it was
the theme of my baby shower formy child, so there's that He'll
figure out why you love it somuch.
Yep, I've been doing thelotteries for the shows because
(11:48):
I've learned, since I lived inthe city, that you no longer
have to like be there and do allthis stuff.
It's all done online.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And you find out ahead of time like a day ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
As opposed to what are we doing tonight?
We'll see, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
So it's been amazing and there's been a few that I've
won, that I haven't been ableto go to for various reasons,
and I'm very bummed about thatDid win tickets to one on
Saturday.
I did have my tiny human thatday, and so I started looking up
online on if it was appropriatefor children or not.
I'm like, what should I do?
What should I do?
And then I'm thinking about thesource material, because
everything on Broadway now isbased off of a movie that was
(12:29):
based off of a book.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, that's the vibe that I got.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah.
So I'm thinking about thesource material and I'm like,
well, I think a lot of it's justgoing to go right over his head
.
And so I decided, OK, let'sbring him.
And so his first Broadway showwas not Aladdin.
His first Broadway show wasactually the Great Gatsby
starring Jeremy Jordan.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
What Wait?
Is that a musical?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
What yeah, jeremy Jordan plays Gatsby.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Gatsby.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Disney, you're going to love Gatsby.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Kept asking him, like you know, during intermission,
after everything, what do youthink he's like?
I liked it and I was like didyou understand it?
He's like no.
I was like in my head, okay,good, and then he's like it was
a little scary.
I was like like when, like thewhen, and I'm trying to think of
how to say it.
And then I was like when Gatsbydied, he's like no, no.
(13:41):
Then what was scary?
He's like just the whole thing.
I was like okay, he's like, butI liked it.
I was like did you like likethe dancing and like all the
like props and costumes?
He's like yes, and I said okay,and I just left it at that.
I well, no, I didn't.
When Jeremy Jordan came out onstage for the first time and the
whole audience went wild, Isaid I must go to university
with him, ooh.
(14:01):
And he said what?
And I was like Grandpa wouldlet me go.
I'll tell you later.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Welcome to your first Broadway show, mommy's bitter.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So when we're leaving the theater, I was like it's
all on you now, kid.
Because I will just be a stagemom.
That is what I was born to doNot actually be the star, but to
be the mother of the star.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Jeremy Jordan up there.
You have five years to workwith him, otherwise mommy won't
love you as much.
Look at him.
Look at him and say I'm goingto be your co-star and then say
I'm going to be the lead andyou'll be my co-star.
Thanks, grandpa.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So as we were leaving the show, I was discussing with
him about how you know, afterBroadway shows there's the stage
door and sometimes people liketo go and try to get autographs
from the stars and everythinghe's like.
I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I said okay, and so we went and they came out pretty
quickly.
The lead female, ava I can'tremember her last name right now
she came- out Wait, Daisy.
Yes, he was dressed up in anice button-down shirt and nice
dress shorts with a bow tie andsuspender, and it was all a
matching Spider-Man set.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh, that's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes, and she was like I, like your suspenders.
We just stared at her.
I'm like say thank you.
So he did.
Oh, I told her also that it washis first Broadway show and she
asked him a couple of questionsabout it and he didn't really
answer or respond or anything.
So when Jeremy came down theline, I was like, well, I'm not
going to really talk about himbecause he doesn't clearly want
to talk to anybody right now.
(15:44):
And that's OK.
He has his own personality andI can't force him to do things.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yes, ava, so I was like what?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
do I say to this one?
Oh, we did this movie together.
Oh, we did this TV showtogether.
Oh, we know these people.
What do I?
What do I?
What do I say?
What do I say?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Wait, so what did you say?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Not really much of anything, just hi.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Perfect yeah, that that is exactly what they want.
They want to go home and watchNetflix for.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I don't mean this to be offensive or anything, but I
think I dodged a bullet becausehe's not aging very well.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Oh my God, this is on record now.
It is Like does he have?
Does he like?
What's your definition of notaging?
Well, I mean, not all of us canbe Asian Meg.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Not all of us can be Asian Meg.
Yeah, you know, not all of uswill look for 26 when we're not.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I mean I could be 26.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You're not 26.
That one, that one, you need tokind of give, give into.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, fine, fine, not 26, but yeah, but he looks.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
What does he look?
80?
Like the crypt keeper now.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
He definitely does like he did 10 years ago.
Okay, I haven't seen him upclose in 10 years.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Right.
We're talking about JeremyJordan is who we're talking
about?
Yes, the 39 year old Scorpio,jeremy Jordan.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
He's only 39?
.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, he's 39.
He was born the same year.
I was Geez, really, Do youthink?
Oh, my God, all these picturesonline.
He's so young and cool.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yes, I agree with the pictures online.
That's not reality.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
No, but he's got a name to him.
When they see my auditionvideos, they're like oh, that's
not reality at all, but we don'tknow who she is Next.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
They probably say but at least she looks young.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Can we just have her stand in a corner somewhere and
not say anything?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
There's nothing wrong with being an extra.
It is very good work and honest.
It's awesome Fun time an honestwhat's awesome?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
fun time?
Absolutely.
You get to be all sorts ofdifferent people and you get to
work on projects multiple times,get to do all sorts of cool
outfits and you work more often.
So if it's just that you liketo be on set and you like to
work, being an extra is great,oh yeah great, oh, yeah, you get
fed.
Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
All the time they're like let's keep you piggies
happy.
Yeah, Get over to the troughagain.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Nom nom, nom, there you go and then you much weight
so you can never get the leadroles.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, that is that, so it seems like it's by design.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I had a blast this this year in chicago.
I got to get to, got to be onchicago.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Med got to be on chicago fire really oh yeah, got
to be on chicago pd yes becausehe's moving everything out of
new york and over to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yep Power Force.
I got to do that.
Just got to do something calledMr.
I don't know if it's MrWonderful, but it's based off of
, like a friend of Steph Curry'sMr, like it's yeah, some guys
does a lot of sports memorabiliabut his friends with Steph
(19:19):
Curry.
So that's another show.
But I got to see myself allkinds of times on uh on this
past uh season of the core showsof chicago that's great.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, I have friends that have been working on svu
for over a decade and they workmultiple days a week and they're
just cops in the station andthey get invited to all the cast
parties and wrap parties andeverything Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Sometimes you get to be a stand-in, I got to be a
stand-in, so that was prettycool, like it's at first.
You know, I've kind of like waslike poo-pooing on the idea of
being an extra, like an actor.
Wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, poo-pooing on the idea of being an extra, like
an actor's access.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'm an actor.
Wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Well, you poo-pooing on actors' access.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yep, 100%.
Such a moron, I'm such a moron,but 100%.
Had the time of my life.
Everybody's so cool to hang outwith we're all.
Some days are easy.
It's like hey, hey, the rain isback.
Oh my gosh.
There was one scene where therewas a car in the side of the
building for I think it waschicago fire which but they
(20:31):
needed to have a news van pullup and like.
Then it's like oh, we got tokeep these news people away.
That's what the leads weresaying, you know.
But the van was so old thatthey needed to jump it every
time.
It stayed stationary for morethan 15 seconds.
The day went at least two hourslonger than it should have,
(20:57):
because a cop car continuouslypull up to it, jump it, pull
back and then, and then we hadto go.
Then, when it's where it was,the cop car had to go back and
jump it so it could go back toone.
And it was like this yeah, itwas incredible, like one of the
(21:17):
actors on it I don't I can'tremember who it was, but like
they're a little bit older andthey had them jumping over sort
of a wall in order to get to theplace faster, and they were
just like dude, my knees, man.
What are we doing right now?
How are we not getting this upnews van?
(21:46):
That can't stay on.
It can't stay on.
How is that possible?
This is a show that spendsmoney and it's a Dick Wolf
production and the car can'tstay on.
Yeah, it was great, though,just having great conversations
talking to people about how I'mabout to be a father and they're
like are'm having a boy or agirl, and I'm like I'm having a
(22:06):
little girl and they're like I'ma girl dad.
It's awesome.
And just having amazingconversations about just how
it's so fun to play with them,how it's so fun to see them grow
, how they're their best friends.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They're best friends.
See, I miss that because like,especially if it's like a show
that you work on often and it'slike a core thing and other
people are core and you get toknow them so well.
It's like a family and I missthat feeling because I don't
(22:40):
have that anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, really, it's my church.
I feel like I definitely havethe feeling of like I don't care
what it is, just get me on set.
What are we doing?
You want me to sit down in acrowd of 30 people and be in the
far back corner pretending toeat something?
Let's do it.
What's your story?
Oh my God, maybe we can work onsomething later on down the
line.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Exactly the networking, the getting to know
each other.
There's so much downtime whereyou just get to talk to other
people and get to know theirstories and what they're looking
for and what their work, whatthey've been in and decided.
I will no longer require therole of day player.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Do you have somebody who's looking to direct traffic
perhaps, but no, it is.
There is just like a wonderfulfamiliar thing.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Personally, I was about two months into doing it
consistently and I got theopportunity to do a labor gig
for setting up an event here inChicago.
I was there for three hours andI walked away.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I was like I can't do this anymore.
I'm sorry, I'm done.
These people have no ideawhat's going on.
This is heavy.
Where's my food?
Where's my makeup team?
Where's my hair team?
Did you really just bring me aChipotle burrito?
I'm sorry.
I'm used to having a steak, achicken, a seafood buffet.
I'm used to having a sandwich.
I'm used to having a greensmoothie.
I'm used to having my ice creamat the end smoothie I'm used to
(24:25):
having my ice cream at the end.
I'm so glad that I went throughthis on my journey because I
would be insufferablyincompetent in so many ways if I
had found extra work and beenokay with it in my younger and
more vulnerable years.
But now that I'm there and okaywith it and happy to do it, oh,
it's so hard to just be likeyeah, I'll do some real work,
yeah, I think that's part of thereason why I have such a hard
(24:48):
time.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
My therapist was like you really don't like work and
I'm like I don't.
It was always.
And I was talking to a friendof mine last week and I was like
this is the longest I've everbeen at a job, because he was
saying he's just been there for10 years and he's like wait,
what I mean?
Because I always did freelancework, whether it was marketing
or whether it was acting.
I never had like this thingwhere I had to go day in and day
(25:12):
out and do certain things overand over, dress a certain way
and talk a certain way.
Well, I mean, I did kind ofhave to do that with set, but
like you know, it's not in thesame way.
Like I got to be differentpeople I get to.
yes, I had to be there atcertain times but it was just,
it was more play, it was morefun.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And it's never the same scene.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's like, even though it's like Unless the
fan's not working.
Exactly.
But yeah, it's, yeah, it's,it's if, if, if you're wired for
it, because you know a lot ofpeople aren't wired for it.
There's people that I was onset with that were like, hey, so
(25:55):
we're supposed to be out ofhere at five, right, and they're
like, yeah, but we're not doneyet and they're like, oh, I'm
just going to go, this was funBye.
And it's like, oh, okay, it'sjust some people, it's not their
thing.
I'm sure that they're okay inother aspects of life, but they
(26:16):
tried it.
It's not their thing and that'sfine.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But for people like us, some of them come back over
and over again and do the samething over and over again,
because I've worked as a PA inholding, having to sign people
in and out and having to havethese discussions with these
people.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Whoa the same people.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And you can't, you can't just be like, so you're
going to stick around.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, but we're not done yet.
Yeah, but I have to go and dothis thing, but you're supposed
to have open availability.
Yeah, but uh, something came up, but we're gonna turn around
and you're supposed to bestanding there, like it needs to
match.
Well, I'll see you next time uhand and off you go.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
it was.
It was.
It was pretty fun, though.
Well, the first fire likeepisode I worked it was cause I
was like brand new.
They're like oh, we can featurethat feature, but like we can
use you.
We've never seen this bald andwhite mother before.
(27:25):
And it was like to get, because,like I did it just to get the
feeling back of being on set,because if I was going to do
something of substance that wasgoing to pay, the last like pay,
pay.
Like the last thing I wanted todo was show up and be like gee
willikers.
I'm just so happy to to to beon this set for the first time
in ages.
Oh, it's such a transitionprocess.
You know what I mean.
Everybody.
I just wanted to be able to belike Exactly, I just wanted to
(27:47):
come in.
I wanted to John Goodman To belike all right, I'll be in my
trailer just reading my books.
When do you need me?
All right, here we go and Ikill it and you guys move on.
Great, but the first set onfire, they brought me in and
they're like all right, so we'regoing to be staging everybody
else.
Some people are going to bewalking this way, some people
(28:10):
are going to be like in bedspretending to talk to doctors.
You, on the other hand, you'regoing to stand right here with
this mobile computer slashdiagnostic unit that's on wheels
.
It's a full computer, full Mac,everything's on, and you're
going to wipe the lens as thetwo main actors come in, or the
(28:34):
two actors in the scene come into pull around a corner and have
a scene and I'm like great.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And they're like yeah , so here's how it's going.
Have a scene and I'm like great, and they're like yeah, so
here's how to wipe the lens.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Um, that means like when you pass in front of the
camera at a very distance attimes yep, and so this was a
moving shot and the cameraoperator was on a wheelchair,
being pulled back, and I had aone foot um, pretty much a one,
(29:09):
maybe less than a one footmargin of error to shoot through
.
And on the other side were twoother cameras that were in a
small space because it was a um,it was a setup inside of a ER
station area, okay, and so therewas like a little hallway going
(29:30):
through the centeradministration area and that's
where the other two cameras wereset and I needed to book it and
it was like welcome back to set.
By the way, you're not going toget any credit, you're going to
be just a blur, but you have todo this and do it right and
your margin of error is zero.
(29:52):
So it's like okay, here we go.
This is fun.
This is like a little puzzle toto figure out and, like you
know, there's no, there's nocharacter work really to think
about, but it's fun to be likeall right, this is a.
My role in this particularthing is to nail this, so let's
just nail it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
So how many takes did it take for you to nail it?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I was consistent, so it was it.
Basically, I think it took, Ithink they did it, I think they
got two takes per angle.
Okay, because they were flying,I did.
Actually.
I was talking to like the p,the um, the assistant director
who was in charge of pas, andjust like kind of
(30:37):
tongue-in-cheek I was just like,so what's my motivation for
this scene?
He's like, oh, you want amotivation?
Yeah, your motivation is thisis the last shot of the day and
we all want to go home and thatis the director's second second
ad, for anyone who's curioussecond, second ad.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I was like fantastic, I got, I got it I love it if
you become friends with thesecond ADs.
It's a really good thing to dobecause there'll be times where
people don't show up and they'relike, oh, call so-and-so, see
if they're available and theycan come right now.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yep, I was lucky enough to get those phone calls
this time.
They were very much like hey,you're on a list of five people.
If you respond first, you gotit.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Good job, Billy.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
It feels good.
A little teaser I worked on aproject that's based on a MMA
fighter recently.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
But the director's previous was a movie called
Market Value Okay, about anillegal adoption.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's a feature length movie.
I think I watched it on TubiHmm, and it'd be fun to discuss
it, because it was was almostfor me like watching an
alternate reality of could havehappened in my teenage years.
Okay, cause I did want to askwhat we should do as far as a
(32:16):
watch along, cause I'd love todo a watch along with our
viewers and that that soundsinteresting that might be the
thing and, like I'm in good,good graces, you know, with the
director, with dell, um, youknow, shout out to gaia, yeah,
dell directed market value, somaybe I could chat with them,
(32:39):
see if there could be someconversations or even
contributions in the watch alongthat might be kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I'd love that.
Yeah, We'll keep that on theshort list for watch, along
which I hope a lot of you willjoin us, for We'll make sure to
give you plenty of time to knowabout it and we can have a
little date all of us.
That would be fun.
I would love to all have alittle date all of us.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
That would be fun.
I would love to all have alittle date.
Everybody bring their popcorn.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Exactly and bring your own and don't do anything
weird.
If you liked this episode ofthe Adopt Twins, I urge you to
pull over if you're driving, orstop what you're doing and take
one minute to take out yourphone and text someone you know
that you think would also likethe Adopt Twins.
Send them a text that says hey,I've been listening to this
(33:30):
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Let me know what you think andsend them a link to the show.
Word of mouth is the best wayto spread the hilarity of the
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We'll catch y'all soon.
Hi, this is Meg.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And this is Billy.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And we are.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The Adopt Twins.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Meg and this is Billy , and we are the Adopt Twins.
Welcome to a podcast from twoadoptees who are navigating life
loss, moving on and growing up.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
For our adopted friends.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We hope to bring you a familiar point of view,
submitting for work, and I'vebeen auditioning a little bit
and I've been booking, nothingbut the tiny human has a manager
(00:58):
now.
Hey, congrats to the tiny human.
Yes, yeah, and so foreverything he submits, for he
gets called for an audition forabout half of them good and then
from there he gets shortlistedmost of the time, but he hasn't
booked anything yet is he mostlygoing for uh film?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
um, it's been all sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's been all sorts of things.
It's been like promos fordifferent like TV shows that are
coming up, some commercialstuff.
I'm not sure if there was anyfilm stuff yet.
Through the agent, I think Ihave had some with him, but
previously to signing him, um,so, yeah, I, so I've definitely
(01:52):
um, it's I I don't know aboutfor you, but for me being around
actors always kind of makes mea better actor, if you will.
Yeah, here, I'm never aroundactors at all, but hopefully the
tiny human starts booking andso then I'll be living with an
actor.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's.
I couldn't agree more.
It's.
It's so important to like havethe immersion where it's just
hey, can we, can we talk shopreal quick Right.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And have people understand it.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh yeah, and have people like be respectful of the
process.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Where?
Yeah, I, that's, that's.
Yeah, that's awesome.
But I can imagine, yeah, thatpart of connecticut kind of hard
to be like all right.
Well, here we are again, the17th day in a row on set, like
that's yeah a little differentso, so I was hoping Malcolm
could have helped me out.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He did text me back, by the way, though.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh, he did.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yes, and he said that he would pass my name along.
So whether he did or not, Iwant to just, in my head, assume
he did.
But the movie takes place inthe 70s and you know, asian
people weren't around in the 70s.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It's a small world.
Proved anything, it's that thehistory.
Contributions from Asianculture Don't matter.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Exactly We've done nothing.
I'm choosing to believe.
That's why I haven't gotten thecall.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Makes sense.
Probably he'll video you WithBTS Be like hey, sorry it's been
a while, but we love you.
Here's a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Today is BTS day.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh, that's why I've been having such a good day such
a good day.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's their anniversary from when they
debuted.
Their oldest member, who wasthe first to go into the
military, came home and he gavea performance and he kept saying
I haven't sang in a year and ahalf.
I'm so nervous, I'm embarrassedand blah, blah, blah.
And he did a beautiful job.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh, my gosh, oh, if every serviceman returning
followed that trajectory, thatwould be hilarious for culture.
Welcome home, now perform.
I've really seen some shit guys.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
We don't care about that.
It's time to sing and dance.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
He said I haven't adjusted to life yet, this poor
guy.
And I cried so much too, justthe whole emotion of everything.
My favorite member, who left inSeptember and last gave an
update in August where we couldsee him.
He wrote a little thing inSeptember that said I'm here,
and then has been radio silentsince we finally got a picture
(04:36):
of him because they all took aday off, a day of leave, to
welcome Jin home.
Oh nice welcome Jin home.
Oh nice, it is a beautifulcouple of days, though.
I bawled my eyes out because Imissed my child a lot yesterday,
and I bawled my eyes out withmy therapist this morning, and I
bawled my eyes out watchingJin's performance.
So, despite all that, it's abeautiful day.
(04:57):
She did say that she doesn'tthink my meds are working, and I
should call a psychiatrist,though.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You win some, you lose some.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Exactly.
You know, I've learned throughtherapy that you just have to
celebrate the little wins andBTS is coming back together.
There's no more so-and-so isleaving.
It is now all so-and-so is back.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know what?
I don't think you need any moremeds.
You got everything you need,knowing that the world is going
to be just fine that's right,because bts is coming back
they're coming back they are,and next time maybe they will.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Um, well, I guess in october.
Well, I mean, I will be therewhen j-hope gets out of the
military, and j-hope is from thesame hometown as I am, oh
interesting yeah, I fly on the16th and he comes home on the
17th and I didn't even plan that, like I looked that up today,
when each person's likedischarge day was gonna be so
(05:52):
maybe I'll see him around, we'llsee.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It sounds like it sounds like fate that's right,
that's right but I could neverdate him because we could be
related.
You know, that is one of thethings that us adoptees always
have to keep in mind.
(06:14):
All right, we're going to takea chance If it starts to feel a
little familiar.
We're going to have to stopwhat Never mind.
I should have kept that.
To stop what Nevermind I should.
I should have kept.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I should have kept that thought inside, but I don't
like I've found myself finallyin my life being attracted to
Asian men.
Hey, get it.
And so I um was talking to thisguy over winter and we never
ended up meeting.
It became a whole thing.
But anyways, I was like wherein Korea are your parents from
exactly?
And then he was like I don'tknow, I'll ask them why.
And I'm like, well, because Ijust always have this fear that
(06:56):
I may be related to someone.
It's like oh, I was like yeah,Adoption foreplay 101.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Hey, could you be my brother?
What?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do you by any chance know if your mother gave a child
up before she had you?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
How about after?
Because, you know, I don'treally know how old I am.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Could you call them and see if they have any friends
who did that?
Can I actually video?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
with them.
I'd like to see how much I looklike them yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Is it okay if we order appetizers first, or?
Oh, you want this now.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I see why you've dated non-Asian men in the past.
Yeah, that's fun.
That's fun, that's fun for all.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
What a journey.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So my kid is learning to write and those types of
things.
First grade he just finishedand they had him do this thing
about his mother for Mother'sDay, all these fill-in-the-blank
things, and I've seen a lot ofhilarious ones online and stuff.
People post them and everything, and so at one point on it,
(08:17):
most of it, fine, yes, makessense, sure, uh-huh, uh-huh.
He did say I was like 16 feettall, though, so that's
something.
But then when 16 feet, yeah, 16, um she he said um, something
about.
I don't know if it said what Ilike.
I think it was like what I liketo do, what I like to wear blah
(08:38):
, blah, blah, kind of things,and it said what I like to wear
bts clothes, what I like to do.
My mother is and I could see,because it wasn't erased very
well, a two and a six and thatwas erased, but I'll take it 26.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'll take it 26, perfect.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, he erased it and put question marks in, and
when I was looking at it and hewas explaining it all to me,
he's like yeah, that's becausewe don't know how old you are
was explaining it all to me.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He's like yeah, that's because we don't know how
old you are, he's like.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's why there's question marks, because question
marks mean you don't know, I'mlike mm-hmm, yeah, yep, fun
telling the teacher all aboutthat one yeah, oh, he had to do
one about his teacher for theend of school and there's a
picture that he had to draw ofhis teacher and it's this person
and a big like word bubblecoming out that says stop oh my
god and I'm like what, what isthis?
(09:32):
he's like she always tells us tostop whatever we're doing, stop
, stop.
And I'm like did miss, did yourteacher see this?
And and he was like, yeah, I'mlike what, what did your teacher
have to say about this?
And and he was like I don'tknow.
But as I was walking away,heard her say to the other
(09:53):
teachers that were there ohgreat, he drew a picture of me
yelling.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
That seems like it's on her.
I'll be honest yeah, maybe yellless.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But I'm not a teacher .
I can never, I can never, no.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I could never.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But no, that is that is.
That is funny to see hisperspective of the world and how
, what, what he picks up on andwhat.
What is just general truth isfor people that I am a 26 year
old giant giant that sleeps allthe time in bts shirts, slumbers
in bts, and the teacher, whohas a life outside of school
with family and bills and hopesand dreams, is just a monster
that screams well, leo's nowobsessed with broadway because
(10:50):
he's learned his teacher goesevery month to Broadway.
Ooh, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So it's gotten me to be like.
He's been asking to see Aladdinon Broadway since he was two
and a half.
But I'm not bringing a two anda half year old to see Aladdin,
no, but I did finally buytickets for this summer, so he
will finally see it.
Oh that's exciting.
His other side bought ticketsfor the Lion King for a few days
(11:17):
after I bring him to Aladdin.
And the Lion King is my favoriteDisney of all time and it was
the theme of my baby shower formy child, so there's that He'll
figure out why you love it somuch.
Yep, I've been doing thelotteries for the shows because
(11:48):
I've learned, since I lived inthe city, that you no longer
have to like be there and do allthis stuff.
It's all done online.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And you find out ahead of time like a day ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
As opposed to what are we doing tonight?
We'll see, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
So it's been amazing and there's been a few that I've
won, that I haven't been ableto go to for various reasons,
and I'm very bummed about thatDid win tickets to one on
Saturday.
I did have my tiny human thatday, and so I started looking up
online on if it was appropriatefor children or not.
I'm like, what should I do?
What should I do?
And then I'm thinking about thesource material, because
everything on Broadway now isbased off of a movie that was
(12:29):
based off of a book.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, that's the vibe that I got.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah.
So I'm thinking about thesource material and I'm like,
well, I think a lot of it's justgoing to go right over his head
.
And so I decided, OK, let'sbring him.
And so his first Broadway showwas not Aladdin.
His first Broadway show wasactually the Great Gatsby
starring Jeremy Jordan.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
What Wait?
Is that a musical?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
What yeah, jeremy Jordan plays Gatsby.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Gatsby.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Disney, you're going to love Gatsby.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Kept asking him, like you know, during intermission,
after everything, what do youthink he's like?
I liked it and I was like didyou understand it?
He's like no.
I was like in my head, okay,good, and then he's like it was
a little scary.
I was like like when, like thewhen, and I'm trying to think of
how to say it.
And then I was like when Gatsbydied, he's like no, no.
(13:41):
Then what was scary?
He's like just the whole thing.
I was like okay, he's like, butI liked it.
I was like did you like likethe dancing and like all the
like props and costumes?
He's like yes, and I said okay,and I just left it at that.
I well, no, I didn't.
When Jeremy Jordan came out onstage for the first time and the
whole audience went wild, Isaid I must go to university
with him, ooh.
(14:01):
And he said what?
And I was like Grandpa wouldlet me go.
I'll tell you later.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Welcome to your first Broadway show, mommy's bitter.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So when we're leaving the theater, I was like it's
all on you now, kid.
Because I will just be a stagemom.
That is what I was born to doNot actually be the star, but to
be the mother of the star.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Jeremy Jordan up there.
You have five years to workwith him, otherwise mommy won't
love you as much.
Look at him.
Look at him and say I'm goingto be your co-star and then say
I'm going to be the lead andyou'll be my co-star.
Thanks, grandpa.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So as we were leaving the show, I was discussing with
him about how you know, afterBroadway shows there's the stage
door and sometimes people liketo go and try to get autographs
from the stars and everythinghe's like.
I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I said okay, and so we went and they came out pretty
quickly.
The lead female, ava I can'tremember her last name right now
she came- out Wait, Daisy.
Yes, he was dressed up in anice button-down shirt and nice
dress shorts with a bow tie andsuspender, and it was all a
matching Spider-Man set.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh, that's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes, and she was like I, like your suspenders.
We just stared at her.
I'm like say thank you.
So he did.
Oh, I told her also that it washis first Broadway show and she
asked him a couple of questionsabout it and he didn't really
answer or respond or anything.
So when Jeremy came down theline, I was like, well, I'm not
going to really talk about himbecause he doesn't clearly want
to talk to anybody right now.
(15:44):
And that's OK.
He has his own personality andI can't force him to do things.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yes, ava, so I was like what?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
do I say to this one?
Oh, we did this movie together.
Oh, we did this TV showtogether.
Oh, we know these people.
What do I?
What do I?
What do I say?
What do I say?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Wait, so what did you say?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Not really much of anything, just hi.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Perfect yeah, that that is exactly what they want.
They want to go home and watchNetflix for.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I don't mean this to be offensive or anything, but I
think I dodged a bullet becausehe's not aging very well.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Oh my God, this is on record now.
It is Like does he have?
Does he like?
What's your definition of notaging?
Well, I mean, not all of us canbe Asian Meg.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Not all of us can be Asian Meg.
Yeah, you know, not all of uswill look for 26 when we're not.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I mean I could be 26.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You're not 26.
That one, that one, you need tokind of give, give into.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, fine, fine, not 26, but yeah, but he looks.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
What does he look?
80?
Like the crypt keeper now.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
He definitely does like he did 10 years ago.
Okay, I haven't seen him upclose in 10 years.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Right.
We're talking about JeremyJordan is who we're talking
about?
Yes, the 39 year old Scorpio,jeremy Jordan.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
He's only 39?
.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, he's 39.
He was born the same year.
I was Geez, really, Do youthink?
Oh, my God, all these picturesonline.
He's so young and cool.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yes, I agree with the pictures online.
That's not reality.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
No, but he's got a name to him.
When they see my auditionvideos, they're like oh, that's
not reality at all, but we don'tknow who she is Next.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
They probably say but at least she looks young.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Can we just have her stand in a corner somewhere and
not say anything?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
There's nothing wrong with being an extra.
It is very good work and honest.
It's awesome Fun time an honestwhat's awesome?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
fun time?
Absolutely.
You get to be all sorts ofdifferent people and you get to
work on projects multiple times,get to do all sorts of cool
outfits and you work more often.
So if it's just that you liketo be on set and you like to
work, being an extra is great,oh yeah great, oh, yeah, you get
fed.
Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
All the time they're like let's keep you piggies
happy.
Yeah, Get over to the troughagain.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Nom nom, nom, there you go and then you much weight
so you can never get the leadroles.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, that is that, so it seems like it's by design.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I had a blast this this year in chicago.
I got to get to, got to be onchicago.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Med got to be on chicago fire really oh yeah, got
to be on chicago pd yes becausehe's moving everything out of
new york and over to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yep Power Force.
I got to do that.
Just got to do something calledMr.
I don't know if it's MrWonderful, but it's based off of
, like a friend of Steph Curry'sMr, like it's yeah, some guys
does a lot of sports memorabiliabut his friends with Steph
(19:19):
Curry.
So that's another show.
But I got to see myself allkinds of times on uh on this
past uh season of the core showsof chicago that's great.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, I have friends that have been working on svu
for over a decade and they workmultiple days a week and they're
just cops in the station andthey get invited to all the cast
parties and wrap parties andeverything Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Sometimes you get to be a stand-in, I got to be a
stand-in, so that was prettycool, like it's at first.
You know, I've kind of like waslike poo-pooing on the idea of
being an extra, like an actor.
Wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, poo-pooing on the idea of being an extra, like
an actor's access.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'm an actor.
Wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Well, you poo-pooing on actors' access.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yep, 100%.
Such a moron, I'm such a moron,but 100%.
Had the time of my life.
Everybody's so cool to hang outwith we're all.
Some days are easy.
It's like hey, hey, the rain isback.
Oh my gosh.
There was one scene where therewas a car in the side of the
building for I think it waschicago fire which but they
(20:31):
needed to have a news van pullup and like.
Then it's like oh, we got tokeep these news people away.
That's what the leads weresaying, you know.
But the van was so old thatthey needed to jump it every
time.
It stayed stationary for morethan 15 seconds.
The day went at least two hourslonger than it should have,
(20:57):
because a cop car continuouslypull up to it, jump it, pull
back and then, and then we hadto go.
Then, when it's where it was,the cop car had to go back and
jump it so it could go back toone.
And it was like this yeah, itwas incredible, like one of the
(21:17):
actors on it I don't I can'tremember who it was, but like
they're a little bit older andthey had them jumping over sort
of a wall in order to get to theplace faster, and they were
just like dude, my knees, man.
What are we doing right now?
How are we not getting this upnews van?
(21:46):
That can't stay on.
It can't stay on.
How is that possible?
This is a show that spendsmoney and it's a Dick Wolf
production and the car can'tstay on.
Yeah, it was great, though,just having great conversations
talking to people about how I'mabout to be a father and they're
like are'm having a boy or agirl, and I'm like I'm having a
(22:06):
little girl and they're like I'ma girl dad.
It's awesome.
And just having amazingconversations about just how
it's so fun to play with them,how it's so fun to see them grow
, how they're their best friends.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They're best friends.
See, I miss that because like,especially if it's like a show
that you work on often and it'slike a core thing and other
people are core and you get toknow them so well.
It's like a family and I missthat feeling because I don't
(22:40):
have that anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, really, it's my church.
I feel like I definitely havethe feeling of like I don't care
what it is, just get me on set.
What are we doing?
You want me to sit down in acrowd of 30 people and be in the
far back corner pretending toeat something?
Let's do it.
What's your story?
Oh my God, maybe we can work onsomething later on down the
line.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Exactly the networking, the getting to know
each other.
There's so much downtime whereyou just get to talk to other
people and get to know theirstories and what they're looking
for and what their work, whatthey've been in and decided.
I will no longer require therole of day player.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Do you have somebody who's looking to direct traffic
perhaps, but no, it is.
There is just like a wonderfulfamiliar thing.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Personally, I was about two months into doing it
consistently and I got theopportunity to do a labor gig
for setting up an event here inChicago.
I was there for three hours andI walked away.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I was like I can't do this anymore.
I'm sorry, I'm done.
These people have no ideawhat's going on.
This is heavy.
Where's my food?
Where's my makeup team?
Where's my hair team?
Did you really just bring me aChipotle burrito?
I'm sorry.
I'm used to having a steak, achicken, a seafood buffet.
I'm used to having a sandwich.
I'm used to having a greensmoothie.
I'm used to having my ice creamat the end smoothie I'm used to
(24:25):
having my ice cream at the end.
I'm so glad that I went throughthis on my journey because I
would be insufferablyincompetent in so many ways if I
had found extra work and beenokay with it in my younger and
more vulnerable years.
But now that I'm there and okaywith it and happy to do it, oh,
it's so hard to just be likeyeah, I'll do some real work,
yeah, I think that's part of thereason why I have such a hard
(24:48):
time.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
My therapist was like you really don't like work and
I'm like I don't.
It was always.
And I was talking to a friendof mine last week and I was like
this is the longest I've everbeen at a job, because he was
saying he's just been there for10 years and he's like wait,
what I mean?
Because I always did freelancework, whether it was marketing
or whether it was acting.
I never had like this thingwhere I had to go day in and day
(25:12):
out and do certain things overand over, dress a certain way
and talk a certain way.
Well, I mean, I did kind ofhave to do that with set, but
like you know, it's not in thesame way.
Like I got to be differentpeople I get to.
yes, I had to be there atcertain times but it was just,
it was more play, it was morefun.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And it's never the same scene.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's like, even though it's like Unless the
fan's not working.
Exactly.
But yeah, it's, yeah, it's,it's if, if, if you're wired for
it, because you know a lot ofpeople aren't wired for it.
There's people that I was onset with that were like, hey, so
(25:55):
we're supposed to be out ofhere at five, right, and they're
like, yeah, but we're not doneyet and they're like, oh, I'm
just going to go, this was funBye.
And it's like, oh, okay, it'sjust some people, it's not their
thing.
I'm sure that they're okay inother aspects of life, but they
(26:16):
tried it.
It's not their thing and that'sfine.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But for people like us, some of them come back over
and over again and do the samething over and over again,
because I've worked as a PA inholding, having to sign people
in and out and having to havethese discussions with these
people.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Whoa the same people.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And you can't, you can't just be like, so you're
going to stick around.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, but we're not done yet.
Yeah, but I have to go and dothis thing, but you're supposed
to have open availability.
Yeah, but uh, something came up, but we're gonna turn around
and you're supposed to bestanding there, like it needs to
match.
Well, I'll see you next time uhand and off you go.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
it was.
It was.
It was pretty fun, though.
Well, the first fire likeepisode I worked it was cause I
was like brand new.
They're like oh, we can featurethat feature, but like we can
use you.
We've never seen this bald andwhite mother before.
(27:25):
And it was like to get, because,like I did it just to get the
feeling back of being on set,because if I was going to do
something of substance that wasgoing to pay, the last like pay,
pay.
Like the last thing I wanted todo was show up and be like gee
willikers.
I'm just so happy to to to beon this set for the first time
in ages.
Oh, it's such a transitionprocess.
You know what I mean.
Everybody.
I just wanted to be able to belike Exactly, I just wanted to
(27:47):
come in.
I wanted to John Goodman To belike all right, I'll be in my
trailer just reading my books.
When do you need me?
All right, here we go and Ikill it and you guys move on.
Great, but the first set onfire, they brought me in and
they're like all right, so we'regoing to be staging everybody
else.
Some people are going to bewalking this way, some people
(28:10):
are going to be like in bedspretending to talk to doctors.
You, on the other hand, you'regoing to stand right here with
this mobile computer slashdiagnostic unit that's on wheels
.
It's a full computer, full Mac,everything's on, and you're
going to wipe the lens as thetwo main actors come in, or the
(28:34):
two actors in the scene come into pull around a corner and have
a scene and I'm like great.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And they're like yeah , so here's how it's going.
Have a scene and I'm like great, and they're like yeah, so
here's how to wipe the lens.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Um, that means like when you pass in front of the
camera at a very distance attimes yep, and so this was a
moving shot and the cameraoperator was on a wheelchair,
being pulled back, and I had aone foot um, pretty much a one,
(29:09):
maybe less than a one footmargin of error to shoot through
.
And on the other side were twoother cameras that were in a
small space because it was a um,it was a setup inside of a ER
station area, okay, and so therewas like a little hallway going
(29:30):
through the centeradministration area and that's
where the other two cameras wereset and I needed to book it and
it was like welcome back to set.
By the way, you're not going toget any credit, you're going to
be just a blur, but you have todo this and do it right and
your margin of error is zero.
(29:52):
So it's like okay, here we go.
This is fun.
This is like a little puzzle toto figure out and, like you
know, there's no, there's nocharacter work really to think
about, but it's fun to be likeall right, this is a.
My role in this particularthing is to nail this, so let's
just nail it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
So how many takes did it take for you to nail it?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I was consistent, so it was it.
Basically, I think it took, Ithink they did it, I think they
got two takes per angle.
Okay, because they were flying,I did.
Actually.
I was talking to like the p,the um, the assistant director
who was in charge of pas, andjust like kind of
(30:37):
tongue-in-cheek I was just like,so what's my motivation for
this scene?
He's like, oh, you want amotivation?
Yeah, your motivation is thisis the last shot of the day and
we all want to go home and thatis the director's second second
ad, for anyone who's curioussecond, second ad.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I was like fantastic, I got, I got it I love it if
you become friends with thesecond ADs.
It's a really good thing to dobecause there'll be times where
people don't show up and they'relike, oh, call so-and-so, see
if they're available and theycan come right now.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yep, I was lucky enough to get those phone calls
this time.
They were very much like hey,you're on a list of five people.
If you respond first, you gotit.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Good job, Billy.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
It feels good.
A little teaser I worked on aproject that's based on a MMA
fighter recently.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
But the director's previous was a movie called
Market Value Okay, about anillegal adoption.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's a feature length movie.
I think I watched it on TubiHmm, and it'd be fun to discuss
it, because it was was almostfor me like watching an
alternate reality of could havehappened in my teenage years.
Okay, cause I did want to askwhat we should do as far as a
(32:16):
watch along, cause I'd love todo a watch along with our
viewers and that that soundsinteresting that might be the
thing and, like I'm in good,good graces, you know, with the
director, with dell, um, youknow, shout out to gaia, yeah,
dell directed market value, somaybe I could chat with them,
(32:39):
see if there could be someconversations or even
contributions in the watch alongthat might be kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I'd love that.
Yeah, We'll keep that on theshort list for watch, along
which I hope a lot of you willjoin us, for We'll make sure to
give you plenty of time to knowabout it and we can have a
little date all of us.
That would be fun.
I would love to all have alittle date all of us.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
That would be fun.
I would love to all have alittle date.
Everybody bring their popcorn.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Exactly and bring your own and don't do anything
weird.
If you liked this episode ofthe Adopt Twins, I urge you to
pull over if you're driving, orstop what you're doing and take
one minute to take out yourphone and text someone you know
that you think would also likethe Adopt Twins.
Send them a text that says hey,I've been listening to this
(33:30):
podcast and I think you'd likeit.
Let me know what you think andsend them a link to the show.
Word of mouth is the best wayto spread the hilarity of the
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