August 20, 2025 • 22 mins
In this episode, Billy shares his tumultuous journey through the early months of 2023, from experiencing career setbacks to dealing with the emotional and devastating loss of a miscarriage. Despite these hardships, Billy and his wife navigate these trials with resilience, eventually finding hope as they prepare to welcome a new life into their family. Throughout the narrative, Billy emphasizes gratitude for the opportunities that have come their way, highlighting how the power of persistence, community support, and personal growth have helped him find balance between personal aspirations and family responsibilities.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hi, this is Meg.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And this is Billy.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And we are.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The Adopt Twins.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Meg and this is Billy , and we are the Adopt Twins.
Welcome to a podcast from twoadoptees who are navigating life
loss, moving on and growing up.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
For our adopted friends we hope to bring you a
familiar point of view and forour friends who aren't welcome
to the complicated jungle of howwe get on.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So you are lucky that you are married and you have a
wife, as that will makeparenting uh, not easy, because
parenting isn't easy, but um,easier, some realms, um, because
since the last time we talkedabout parenting happened billy
(01:06):
uh well, I found myself on tour.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh gosh, how much can I talk about?
Because, like the last time, wetalked about parenting before
the pod fest, right?
Yes okay, so I, I had ahorrendous start to 2023.
It was absolute, probably worstamount of time that I could
(01:34):
possibly point my finger to interms of just.
Yeah, it off where it was.
Just you know, it was like allright, I guess we're going to
have a brush fire here and it'sgoing to turn into a, a massive
forest fire.
I was trying to get my businessoff the ground and just came to
(01:54):
a pain point between gettingpeople who want to give us money
.
That went I think I might havehad200 or $300 to my name Just
really just like, went deep,deep, deep, deep, deep, deep,
deep into the savings wherethere was essentially wiped out,
(02:17):
because I really wanted to giveit a try and have a have a
successful business.
I want I, I thought, I thoughtthere was a chance with it, and
when it proved that that was notgoing to be the case, I fell
back on trying to find a gig inthe experiential marketing world
(02:42):
, and so my wife and I had madethe decision that it was time to
bring a child into the world,and so I was sending out for
jobs that every other realityand every other time in my
history it's not even really aissue to get an interview, much
(03:07):
less get the job very quicklybased off of my resume.
But this is coming out of COVID.
This is people, and mycompetition is now people who
are better qualified in terms ofhaving degrees in the field
that I'm in.
I know that's so hard.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I know, oh, that's so hard.
I've been dealing with that.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But it's, it was, it was.
It was maddening, and thingsthat should have been givens
were just gone-ins.
They were gone-s.
I couldn't, I didn't have anyprospects.
(03:57):
And there was some.
I, I, I put out to be a, a, youknow, to work as an actor and
do some commercial work.
A friend of mine helped me outwith that and I was very
thankful, but the auditions werenon-existent.
They're trickling in at best,so I couldn't rely on them.
(04:18):
I was freaking out, genuinelythinking how are we going to do
this?
How am I going to provide?
And?
But still excited at theprospect, because the decision
felt good to make, even thoughthere was a, a fear.
(04:39):
Um, and so I did.
You know what?
Yeah, I'm sure you get it.
Um, and so we I ended upgetting a horrible job.
That was a scam and it was yeah, it was, it was.
That was in May.
Um, it was going to pay fineand it was going to be good and
(05:03):
the potential of it was like,hey, doing what you're typically
used to doing in a skill set inChicago.
And then they bait and switchedme and were like you know, we
need you to go and do adifferent version of this kind
of job, but all around thecountry, and then they weren't
paying me.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh boy paying me.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I had a fun time with it, though, like once I
realized that they were all fullof.
I was just the most annoyingConnecticut person that exists,
just poking at them, being likehey, where's my benefits package
?
Hey, oh, hey, you guys saidthat I could reach out to the
CEO if I'm not getting what Iwant.
Right, you said that on a call.
That's super cool.
Hey, ceo, where's my benefitspackage?
(05:42):
Hey, when am I getting paid?
Hey, I heard this guy got paidand I didn't get paid.
So why am I getting paid?
By the way, I have a questionwhen is the Chicago market going
to open up?
So, kind of like hilariously,they worked trying to get me out
of there by having me quit asopposed to firing me, because I,
straight up, just began to be.
I sent the email saying hey, Iwant you, I want to thank you so
(06:05):
much for the consideration ofhaving me be somebody who
travels, but I think it'll bebetter for me to just stay put
in Chicago until the marketsopen and I'll just fulfill the
responsibilities of the job thatwe agreed to that I contract
for.
And they were just like well,you know, it seems like you're
not very happy here, right and Isaid, oh no, I'm thrilled to be
(06:25):
here, I love this company, Ireally believe in the mission.
I'm just going to hang out hereuntil the Chicago market opens.
Does that sound good to youguys?
This seems fair, right, wholething of just like watching
these people on Zoom just dowhat they can to just not gouge
their eyeballs out and jumpacross the screen and strangle
(06:46):
me.
And so eventually they said,yeah, we're going to let you go.
And I'm like, okay, so back tosquare one.
And soon after that wemiscarried and it was.
(07:11):
It was just, I mean, for me itwas devastating, for my wife it
was beyond devastating.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Can't imagine that at all.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Beyond.
I'm glad you're in the realm ofneeding to use imagination,
because there's just so much.
That was that wrapped up anidea of what happened.
It was a situation where theystopped developing but the body
(07:45):
still reacted as if they werestill developing.
Oh gosh, for weeks talking tosomething that wasn't there and
like thinking that little thingswere happening and no, there
was never anything there.
It was absolutely, oh,devastating, yeah, so, so, after
(08:17):
that it was, it was like itstill was.
Oh, you know, great, I'mgetting poorer by the moment.
Yeah, yeah, like there's still.
There's still this absolute,you know, horror show now of
life.
But then it was oh, by the way,still you don't have any money.
You need to make money.
And I was lucky enough to seesomebody I've worked for since
(08:43):
2009 post something on Facebookfor a gig.
And they were like it's inChicago.
And I was like, oh my God, hey,if you're hiring, still, if you
remember me, because it hadbeen a long time since we worked
together and they were justlike, yeah, you're in.
Oh my God, you're back in thegame.
(09:05):
Yes, oh my God, thank God.
And like, even though there wasso much going on with what was
happening at home, it felt sogood to be appreciated.
After so much ghosting, like youreally start to worry about
your value yeah, as a partner,as a person, as a contributor to
(09:30):
society, and it's just like onething after the other of just
getting just slammed down, ofjust like, but wait, this worked
before.
Like, is life passing me by?
What is this?
And they really, really helpedme.
Just give me.
I've really just felt like mylife back, honestly and, yeah,
(09:51):
be able to have a stability.
And you know, it was simplestuff, just strapping vr
headsets to kids faces andhaving them to pretend to be a
cat for a few months.
So all this was happeningbefore we found out that
pregnancy wasn't viable.
Our landlord reached out to usand told us that we were going
(10:14):
to be able, if we wanted to, totransition from a one bedroom to
a two bedroom across the hallfrom where we lived, and it was
like everything okay, well, atleast this is working out.
So that got set in stone.
We had to move in August for aSeptember 1st move in and it was
(10:35):
fine.
This gig ends where it's kidsplaying as cats and then I'm
asked to go out on the road roadfor a legitimate tour now, um,
go up to, basically fromvancouver, pacific northwest,
all this kind of stuff and I wasgoing to be gone as my wife
(10:58):
moved into the new space, andthis would be the furthest that
we were away from each other andthe first time that we would be
able to see each other would bein Iowa, where it would make
sense for her to fly out.
So that was.
I think that was in September,like late September, when that
(11:18):
happened and we had beencommunicating and we got to a
point where, finally, it feltlike we were ready to give it
another try.
And, yeah, all it took was thattry.
So it was all right.
I got home, we had a party thenext day.
(11:41):
After the party, um, it's likeI'm just kind of curious.
Let's, let's, let's kind of seewhat this test says.
Oh, here we go and like thefeeling of I don't know the
feeling of the first time, whichwas just, you know, exuberance
when it happened, and like thesecond time, it was this feeling
(12:02):
of okay, now, how are we goingto do this as adults?
Like what's the feeling?
Okay, now, what's on thechecklist?
What do we need to do?
Okay, this is great, all right,what do we need to do now to
make sure that this is going tobe a good home?
I don't know, it was a weird,more practical reaction, also
(12:24):
tempering our expectationsbecause we don't want to go
through the devastation again.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Right, I've seen that kind of go on with other people
too, where after having a mis,miscarriage, the next time
around they are more in like theplanning phase of things and I
just feel like I've never gonethrough it.
So I don't know.
But instead of trying trying tofind a way just to just be so
(12:52):
excited and overjoyed becauseyou, what could happen, and just
trying to just kind of make itmore I don't know the right word
for it, but make it more justum, I was gonna say clinical,
but that's not what I mean forit.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But we're just yeah, yeah yeah, not, not pessimistic,
but not optimistic.
But just okay, let's just,before we do any touchdown
dances, let's continue our lifeand let's not go buy anything.
(13:27):
Let's just, let's just do.
Let's just do what theyactually suggested we do at this
point, which is continue onbeing mindful of what our
environment needs at this pointto change.
You know, prenatal care,cutting out, you know different
(13:47):
activities that aren't reallyconducive to bringing a healthy
child up or fetus.
But then when we heard thatheartbeat, oh my god, we heard
well, it's a lot faster, but itwas one of the most joyful
(14:11):
moments I've had in my life.
And, yes, she's been growingand he's been growing and she's
got long, long legs and she'sgot already personality traits
of both of us that we can tellinside there.
Yeah, and so stayed on workingwith the company that I was
(14:33):
working with.
They gave they, they, theyoffered me another tour, got to
work with a lot of people that Ilove, and then after that, it
was a good seven months.
It felt like being on the road,which was, you know, even
though for some of it I wasflying in and flying out.
It was enough of that kind ofwork and since then I've been
(14:54):
committing to being a full-timeactor since February and I've
been able to pay the bills.
I've been able to get it.
That's great.
Yeah, wow.
It's a big hustle, but it'sbeen working out for me, and my
wife has been just such a rockstar when it comes to making
(15:18):
sure that they're taking care ofthemselves, they're taking care
of the baby, they're relaxingwhen the body says it's time to
relax and you know, knock onwood, the doctor seems very
confident that everything isgoing to be great.
So it's so good.
I'll see what happens in thenext two weeks.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Congratulations, though that's quite a road to
come down.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Thank you.
It was a trip, it was so much.
But on the other side, feelingvery, very thankful and also
just feeling like the amount ofpositive sort of of not just
feedback but opportunities thatjust keep popping up in the
(16:04):
acting space, no-transcript, andso it's nice to I don't know
(16:35):
have an awareness of where I fitinto a project after project
and doing the job that'srequired.
For that.
And, like at other points inlife, I would have tried to
Superman and be like oh, I seethat you're having trouble with
this, Put all of my energy intothis and help you out with it.
Blah, blah, blah.
But now it just is great tojust be like what do you need?
I'll be doing that one thingand help you out with it.
Blah, blah.
But now it just is great tojust be like what do you need?
(16:56):
I'll be doing that one thingand I'll be doing it incredibly
well that's right, somebody grewup so yeah, now.
Now I'll be responsible for anadorable child.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So good.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
We've got the nursery set up.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Did you pick a theme?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, we have a light theme.
There's a sort of bear theme.
There's some bears kickingaround sleeping, some bears that
are painted bear sheets, somebear clothes, some bear stories.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So I would say the theme is bears that's cute yeah,
um not that you need to say iton air, but just for my own
personal curiosity, and not thatyou need to tell me it.
But I'm just wondering if youguys have chosen a name yet oh
yeah, we've got a name oh, goodI love it yep I'm so excited
(18:00):
first and middle, yeah, in the.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
In the meantime, though, when people ask what the
name is, we just say, uh, firstname gator, second name gator,
so gator, gator, bay raw okay,you know that's a very korean
thing.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
They always give the um the fetus a nickname.
It's never the name that theyactually give them in real life
and once they're born, but theyalways give them a nickname.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oh, that's funny, yeah yeah, yeah, there's
definitely there.
She's got nicknames for sureonce, once she's out.
Um, and like you know, justpeople, people have their
opinions.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Just that was one opinion we didn't care to have
any feedback on right, I mean,it's your kid yeah yeah, you're
the one that's going to behaving to yell it out all the
time when they're doing thingsthat they shouldn't gator, you
wobble on over here.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Come on now, girl.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, that's good.
Oh gosh and I um, are you goingto be parents who post about
your child on social or not?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
first, Not a lot Okay .
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Well then, I look forward to seeing the photos at
some point.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
However, We'll send them out to people, but Okay at
some point, however, we'll sendthem out to people, but I think
posting on social is not a highpriority.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Good, okay, that's better for the child.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I feel like that right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, I post a lot of photos of my kid but I don't
give any names, I don't give anyidentifying information, school
uniform, none of it.
It's all very and if we're atan event I wait days, sometimes
weeks, before I post just havinga little bit of a time delay
(19:56):
and nobody needs to know exactlywhere we are at all times,
right?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
so, and I don't, I don't know.
I just also don't want myalgorithm to be nothing but baby
stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So yeah, it's, it's not fun.
I've, I've, I've, figured outhow to change mine and now it's
a bunch of bts and adoption, ohgood.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So I get to have my cry in two different ways if I,
that's a good cry and the sadcry if I.
If I get it if I get to thetruly I'm watching avatar right
now, the last airbender, not thelive action, because I watched
the live action first and mywife had a conniption fit.
The whole time she was likethis is not how this is supposed
(20:37):
to.
They ruined it.
They ruined it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh, she's a fan of the original.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I can honestly say we're watching the original.
Yeah, they kind of missed theball on the live action with
some pretty basic stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Oh, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, you know how it is.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yep, I do.
Well, hopefully it doesn't takethis long for us to catch up
again, because it would bereally weird if our next guest
was your daughter talkingBecause I don't want that much
time to pass.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
We're going to see.
You know she might come outtalking.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
We've been talking to her a lot in the womb so maybe
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(21:38):
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Send them a text that says hey,I've been listening to this
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Let me know what you think andsend them a link to the show.
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We'll catch y'all soon.
Hi, this is Meg.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And this is Billy.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And we are.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The Adopt Twins.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Meg and this is Billy , and we are the Adopt Twins.
Welcome to a podcast from twoadoptees who are navigating life
loss, moving on and growing up.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
For our adopted friends we hope to bring you a
familiar point of view and forour friends who aren't welcome
to the complicated jungle of howwe get on.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So you are lucky that you are married and you have a
wife, as that will makeparenting uh, not easy, because
parenting isn't easy, but um,easier, some realms, um, because
since the last time we talkedabout parenting happened billy
(01:06):
uh well, I found myself on tour.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh gosh, how much can I talk about?
Because, like the last time, wetalked about parenting before
the pod fest, right?
Yes okay, so I, I had ahorrendous start to 2023.
It was absolute, probably worstamount of time that I could
(01:34):
possibly point my finger to interms of just.
Yeah, it off where it was.
Just you know, it was like allright, I guess we're going to
have a brush fire here and it'sgoing to turn into a, a massive
forest fire.
I was trying to get my businessoff the ground and just came to
(01:54):
a pain point between gettingpeople who want to give us money
.
That went I think I might havehad200 or $300 to my name Just
really just like, went deep,deep, deep, deep, deep, deep,
deep into the savings wherethere was essentially wiped out,
(02:17):
because I really wanted to giveit a try and have a have a
successful business.
I want I, I thought, I thoughtthere was a chance with it, and
when it proved that that was notgoing to be the case, I fell
back on trying to find a gig inthe experiential marketing world
(02:42):
, and so my wife and I had madethe decision that it was time to
bring a child into the world,and so I was sending out for
jobs that every other realityand every other time in my
history it's not even really aissue to get an interview, much
(03:07):
less get the job very quicklybased off of my resume.
But this is coming out of COVID.
This is people, and mycompetition is now people who
are better qualified in terms ofhaving degrees in the field
that I'm in.
I know that's so hard.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I know, oh, that's so hard.
I've been dealing with that.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But it's, it was, it was.
It was maddening, and thingsthat should have been givens
were just gone-ins.
They were gone-s.
I couldn't, I didn't have anyprospects.
(03:57):
And there was some.
I, I, I put out to be a, a, youknow, to work as an actor and
do some commercial work.
A friend of mine helped me outwith that and I was very
thankful, but the auditions werenon-existent.
They're trickling in at best,so I couldn't rely on them.
(04:18):
I was freaking out, genuinelythinking how are we going to do
this?
How am I going to provide?
And?
But still excited at theprospect, because the decision
felt good to make, even thoughthere was a, a fear.
(04:39):
Um, and so I did.
You know what?
Yeah, I'm sure you get it.
Um, and so we I ended upgetting a horrible job.
That was a scam and it was yeah, it was, it was.
That was in May.
Um, it was going to pay fineand it was going to be good and
(05:03):
the potential of it was like,hey, doing what you're typically
used to doing in a skill set inChicago.
And then they bait and switchedme and were like you know, we
need you to go and do adifferent version of this kind
of job, but all around thecountry, and then they weren't
paying me.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh boy paying me.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I had a fun time with it, though, like once I
realized that they were all fullof.
I was just the most annoyingConnecticut person that exists,
just poking at them, being likehey, where's my benefits package
?
Hey, oh, hey, you guys saidthat I could reach out to the
CEO if I'm not getting what Iwant.
Right, you said that on a call.
That's super cool.
Hey, ceo, where's my benefitspackage?
(05:42):
Hey, when am I getting paid?
Hey, I heard this guy got paidand I didn't get paid.
So why am I getting paid?
By the way, I have a questionwhen is the Chicago market going
to open up?
So, kind of like hilariously,they worked trying to get me out
of there by having me quit asopposed to firing me, because I,
straight up, just began to be.
I sent the email saying hey, Iwant you, I want to thank you so
(06:05):
much for the consideration ofhaving me be somebody who
travels, but I think it'll bebetter for me to just stay put
in Chicago until the marketsopen and I'll just fulfill the
responsibilities of the job thatwe agreed to that I contract
for.
And they were just like well,you know, it seems like you're
not very happy here, right and Isaid, oh no, I'm thrilled to be
(06:25):
here, I love this company, Ireally believe in the mission.
I'm just going to hang out hereuntil the Chicago market opens.
Does that sound good to youguys?
This seems fair, right, wholething of just like watching
these people on Zoom just dowhat they can to just not gouge
their eyeballs out and jumpacross the screen and strangle
(06:46):
me.
And so eventually they said,yeah, we're going to let you go.
And I'm like, okay, so back tosquare one.
And soon after that wemiscarried and it was.
(07:11):
It was just, I mean, for me itwas devastating, for my wife it
was beyond devastating.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Can't imagine that at all.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Beyond.
I'm glad you're in the realm ofneeding to use imagination,
because there's just so much.
That was that wrapped up anidea of what happened.
It was a situation where theystopped developing but the body
(07:45):
still reacted as if they werestill developing.
Oh gosh, for weeks talking tosomething that wasn't there and
like thinking that little thingswere happening and no, there
was never anything there.
It was absolutely, oh,devastating, yeah, so, so, after
(08:17):
that it was, it was like itstill was.
Oh, you know, great, I'mgetting poorer by the moment.
Yeah, yeah, like there's still.
There's still this absolute,you know, horror show now of
life.
But then it was oh, by the way,still you don't have any money.
You need to make money.
And I was lucky enough to seesomebody I've worked for since
(08:43):
2009 post something on Facebookfor a gig.
And they were like it's inChicago.
And I was like, oh my God, hey,if you're hiring, still, if you
remember me, because it hadbeen a long time since we worked
together and they were justlike, yeah, you're in.
Oh my God, you're back in thegame.
(09:05):
Yes, oh my God, thank God.
And like, even though there wasso much going on with what was
happening at home, it felt sogood to be appreciated.
After so much ghosting, like youreally start to worry about
your value yeah, as a partner,as a person, as a contributor to
(09:30):
society, and it's just like onething after the other of just
getting just slammed down, ofjust like, but wait, this worked
before.
Like, is life passing me by?
What is this?
And they really, really helpedme.
Just give me.
I've really just felt like mylife back, honestly and, yeah,
(09:51):
be able to have a stability.
And you know, it was simplestuff, just strapping vr
headsets to kids faces andhaving them to pretend to be a
cat for a few months.
So all this was happeningbefore we found out that
pregnancy wasn't viable.
Our landlord reached out to usand told us that we were going
(10:14):
to be able, if we wanted to, totransition from a one bedroom to
a two bedroom across the hallfrom where we lived, and it was
like everything okay, well, atleast this is working out.
So that got set in stone.
We had to move in August for aSeptember 1st move in and it was
(10:35):
fine.
This gig ends where it's kidsplaying as cats and then I'm
asked to go out on the road roadfor a legitimate tour now, um,
go up to, basically fromvancouver, pacific northwest,
all this kind of stuff and I wasgoing to be gone as my wife
(10:58):
moved into the new space, andthis would be the furthest that
we were away from each other andthe first time that we would be
able to see each other would bein Iowa, where it would make
sense for her to fly out.
So that was.
I think that was in September,like late September, when that
(11:18):
happened and we had beencommunicating and we got to a
point where, finally, it feltlike we were ready to give it
another try.
And, yeah, all it took was thattry.
So it was all right.
I got home, we had a party thenext day.
(11:41):
After the party, um, it's likeI'm just kind of curious.
Let's, let's, let's kind of seewhat this test says.
Oh, here we go and like thefeeling of I don't know the
feeling of the first time, whichwas just, you know, exuberance
when it happened, and like thesecond time, it was this feeling
(12:02):
of okay, now, how are we goingto do this as adults?
Like what's the feeling?
Okay, now, what's on thechecklist?
What do we need to do?
Okay, this is great, all right,what do we need to do now to
make sure that this is going tobe a good home?
I don't know, it was a weird,more practical reaction, also
(12:24):
tempering our expectationsbecause we don't want to go
through the devastation again.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Right, I've seen that kind of go on with other people
too, where after having a mis,miscarriage, the next time
around they are more in like theplanning phase of things and I
just feel like I've never gonethrough it.
So I don't know.
But instead of trying trying tofind a way just to just be so
(12:52):
excited and overjoyed becauseyou, what could happen, and just
trying to just kind of make itmore I don't know the right word
for it, but make it more justum, I was gonna say clinical,
but that's not what I mean forit.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But we're just yeah, yeah yeah, not, not pessimistic,
but not optimistic.
But just okay, let's just,before we do any touchdown
dances, let's continue our lifeand let's not go buy anything.
(13:27):
Let's just, let's just do.
Let's just do what theyactually suggested we do at this
point, which is continue onbeing mindful of what our
environment needs at this pointto change.
You know, prenatal care,cutting out, you know different
(13:47):
activities that aren't reallyconducive to bringing a healthy
child up or fetus.
But then when we heard thatheartbeat, oh my god, we heard
well, it's a lot faster, but itwas one of the most joyful
(14:11):
moments I've had in my life.
And, yes, she's been growingand he's been growing and she's
got long, long legs and she'sgot already personality traits
of both of us that we can tellinside there.
Yeah, and so stayed on workingwith the company that I was
(14:33):
working with.
They gave they, they, theyoffered me another tour, got to
work with a lot of people that Ilove, and then after that, it
was a good seven months.
It felt like being on the road,which was, you know, even
though for some of it I wasflying in and flying out.
It was enough of that kind ofwork and since then I've been
(14:54):
committing to being a full-timeactor since February and I've
been able to pay the bills.
I've been able to get it.
That's great.
Yeah, wow.
It's a big hustle, but it'sbeen working out for me, and my
wife has been just such a rockstar when it comes to making
(15:18):
sure that they're taking care ofthemselves, they're taking care
of the baby, they're relaxingwhen the body says it's time to
relax and you know, knock onwood, the doctor seems very
confident that everything isgoing to be great.
So it's so good.
I'll see what happens in thenext two weeks.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Congratulations, though that's quite a road to
come down.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Thank you.
It was a trip, it was so much.
But on the other side, feelingvery, very thankful and also
just feeling like the amount ofpositive sort of of not just
feedback but opportunities thatjust keep popping up in the
(16:04):
acting space, no-transcript, andso it's nice to I don't know
(16:35):
have an awareness of where I fitinto a project after project
and doing the job that'srequired.
For that.
And, like at other points inlife, I would have tried to
Superman and be like oh, I seethat you're having trouble with
this, Put all of my energy intothis and help you out with it.
Blah, blah, blah.
But now it just is great tojust be like what do you need?
I'll be doing that one thingand help you out with it.
Blah, blah.
But now it just is great tojust be like what do you need?
(16:56):
I'll be doing that one thingand I'll be doing it incredibly
well that's right, somebody grewup so yeah, now.
Now I'll be responsible for anadorable child.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So good.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
We've got the nursery set up.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Did you pick a theme?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, we have a light theme.
There's a sort of bear theme.
There's some bears kickingaround sleeping, some bears that
are painted bear sheets, somebear clothes, some bear stories.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So I would say the theme is bears that's cute yeah,
um not that you need to say iton air, but just for my own
personal curiosity, and not thatyou need to tell me it.
But I'm just wondering if youguys have chosen a name yet oh
yeah, we've got a name oh, goodI love it yep I'm so excited
(18:00):
first and middle, yeah, in the.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
In the meantime, though, when people ask what the
name is, we just say, uh, firstname gator, second name gator,
so gator, gator, bay raw okay,you know that's a very korean
thing.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
They always give the um the fetus a nickname.
It's never the name that theyactually give them in real life
and once they're born, but theyalways give them a nickname.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oh, that's funny, yeah yeah, yeah, there's
definitely there.
She's got nicknames for sureonce, once she's out.
Um, and like you know, justpeople, people have their
opinions.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Just that was one opinion we didn't care to have
any feedback on right, I mean,it's your kid yeah yeah, you're
the one that's going to behaving to yell it out all the
time when they're doing thingsthat they shouldn't gator, you
wobble on over here.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Come on now, girl.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, that's good.
Oh gosh and I um, are you goingto be parents who post about
your child on social or not?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
first, Not a lot Okay .
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Well then, I look forward to seeing the photos at
some point.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
However, We'll send them out to people, but Okay at
some point, however, we'll sendthem out to people, but I think
posting on social is not a highpriority.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Good, okay, that's better for the child.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I feel like that right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, I post a lot of photos of my kid but I don't
give any names, I don't give anyidentifying information, school
uniform, none of it.
It's all very and if we're atan event I wait days, sometimes
weeks, before I post just havinga little bit of a time delay
(19:56):
and nobody needs to know exactlywhere we are at all times,
right?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
so, and I don't, I don't know.
I just also don't want myalgorithm to be nothing but baby
stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So yeah, it's, it's not fun.
I've, I've, I've, figured outhow to change mine and now it's
a bunch of bts and adoption, ohgood.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So I get to have my cry in two different ways if I,
that's a good cry and the sadcry if I.
If I get it if I get to thetruly I'm watching avatar right
now, the last airbender, not thelive action, because I watched
the live action first and mywife had a conniption fit.
The whole time she was likethis is not how this is supposed
(20:37):
to.
They ruined it.
They ruined it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh, she's a fan of the original.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I can honestly say we're watching the original.
Yeah, they kind of missed theball on the live action with
some pretty basic stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Oh, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, you know how it is.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yep, I do.
Well, hopefully it doesn't takethis long for us to catch up
again, because it would bereally weird if our next guest
was your daughter talkingBecause I don't want that much
time to pass.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
We're going to see.
You know she might come outtalking.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
We've been talking to her a lot in the womb so maybe
she's already got it figured outif you liked this episode of
the adopt twins, I urge you topull over if you're driving, or
stop what you're doing, and takeone minute to take out your
phone and text someone you knowthat you think would also like
(21:38):
the Adopt Twins.
Send them a text that says hey,I've been listening to this
podcast and I think you'd likeit.
Let me know what you think andsend them a link to the show.
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