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July 5, 2022 65 mins

Who is to blame for the current diplomatic deadlock between the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and the West? 

Have the Taliban really changed?

Is there such thing as Taliban 2.0? If so, how and why is it different from Taliban 1.0?

To discuss these questions and more, Ahmed-Waleed Kakar hosts former humanitarian aid worker Cathal Ó Gabhann (@AnOGabhannOg) to discuss his latest oped for the National Interest: 'The West is Getting Afghanistan Wrong, Again'. 

Cathal Ó Gabhann has spent four years working in Afghanistan, in which he dealt with the Taliban on a daily basis, and has spent the past fourteen years interacting with armed insurgent groups throughout Asia, as well as with prisoners of war and victims of alleged war crimes. 

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