The All-Pro Philly Players Show w/ Isaiah Rodgers -- 11/04/24

Jerrold Colton and Dave Spadaro are LIVE from Chickie's and Pete's in Marlton, NJ and are joined by #Eagles CB Isaiah Rodgers! Fresh off a big #Eagles win against the desperate #Jaguars at The Linc, the Birds will take on a depleted #Cowboys team this weekend in Dallas. Rodgers talks about the big Week 9 win, looks ahead to the Cowboys, and more!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Spreads, totals and all the prop that's in the twins.
It's the Gambler coming to you live from Chicky's and
Pete's in Marlton, New Jersey. Every Monday night. It's the
All Pro Philly Players Show. Now here are your hosts,
Gerald Colton and Eagles inside him Dave Spadero.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Goodny and welcome the chickens and piece of Marlton, New
Jersey and the All Pro Philly Players Show. I'm Gerald
Carlton along with my co host, Eagles insider Dave Spadero.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
What's up, Dave, Gerald, I'm great tonight.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
I am excited about the Philadelphia Eagles few records.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
It is fantastic, interesting game yesterday.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
We we'll talk about it, and of.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Course great guest with us. Very of a young man
who appreciates.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
The game of football as much as anybody could possibly
appreciate the game of professional football.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
That is a beautiful thing to say about him. I
can't wait to get to get to know that with him.
He's sitting between us right here. But first of all,
it is another victory Monday.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
That's four straight we've had. Dave Dressing Kelly.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, that's right, it is also Dallas week giving up
for a big victors in the Philadelphis Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
And Dallas week is always an interesting week, even though
this is an interesting Dallas team doing.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
We'll dress that a lot of stories right about this
football team.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
A lot, a lot, a lot. I'm wearing my Kelly
green which I wear often. Anyhow, yesterday you guys were
all dressed in Kelly green, and I just think it's
a beautiful sight. So without further doing this gorgeous Monday
in the Delaware Valley and Victory Monday, it is introducing
our guest today and we're thrilled to have his first
start as a Philadelphi Eagle on a very successful.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
One at that number thirty four.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Isaiah Rogers Senior.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Doing great.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
It tending to have you Isaiacs.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Congratulations on the win last night and starting at cornerback.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
And how are you feeling today? How things went about?

Speaker 5 (01:56):
How things went yesterday?

Speaker 6 (01:58):
It went pretty well, you know the end of the day,
you know, it's all about getting a w but uh,
we just got to go in there and clean up
a lot of things. The game, you know, got out
of hand, out of nowhere, and you know it's a
little moment of adversity, but you know it's there's moments
like that make team strong.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
So something that we needed.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
It's interesting today because the media asked, I guess players
talked about taking their foot off the gas pedal yesterday
and the media talk asked mixed seriality about it.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Nick was like, well, the effort was there.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Ever, it's not really like the effort when things hats
a weird momentum switch that happens in sports a lot,
how do you explain when you're in the middle of it,
Isaiah twenty two to nothing lead and then it's all
of a sudden twenty two sixteen?

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Do you feel it happening?

Speaker 6 (02:43):
We feel it, just like you know people on the outside.
I feel like the fans feel it. We feel it.
Momentum is real, and it's something that you know, we
preach into the locker room that you know, it's any
given Sundays you never gonna take a foot off the gas.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
So that's something that we The foot off the gas
is not.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
It's one of those moments where it's like focus. It's
like you have twenty two zero and you don't want
to just get lacks of days of cool, you know,
just look down on your opponents. So there's one of
those moments where you know you had lock in and
it was Fluke.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
It was really Fluke gave to me though.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
An NFL game can turn on a play or two here,
and what happened was, you know, the Eagles had completely
bottled up Jacksonville in the first half.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
We'll talk about how good a job your defense did.
I mean, they didn't cross the fifty thirty one yards
it was thirty one yards.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Absolutely incredible first half, pitch, a shutout, go up twenty
two to nothing.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Early in the third quarter, they have a long drive.
I mean during the course of a game, it'll happen.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
But it was the fumble that happened right afterwards where
sae Quon Barklay was absolutely incredible again yesterday, he did
something superhuman that I've never seen done.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
I don't think anyone's ever seen done on a football field.
But he got He had.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
A fumble which was unfortunate and certainly debatable.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
So so David.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
The extrange part is, I mean, very very close call,
which I think it actually should not.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
I think it should have been down by contact, but
it was close.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, do you know the explanation I heard it, It
made no sense to me, but it got that he
that he stumbled because of the touch from the jack
Will player and then he tripped over his offenses.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Right he made contact with his offensive player, which kind
of I guess nullifies the touch from the defender and
and was was.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Free to run.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
So it was a weird call, weird play, strange bounce
arm on the ground, and then the fact that Draymon
Walker breaks tackles.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
And returns it for a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
You gotta teach your offensive guys how to tackle. But
so without that play, you know, then that's get Those
plays can change the momentum and the and the course
of the football game. That might we might not have
been talking about it or going down the wire that
we wound up going down. So but regardless, it's a wave.
And I every Monday, people will nitpick in or look

(04:46):
for the negatives around here sometimes, but it's a w
And you know, you you've probably never heard this line,
but was said by one of our best baseball players ever,
Mike Schmidt in Philadelphia.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Get the thrill of victory.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
And the agony of reading about it the next day, Yeah,
we get, we get something like that. But it was
in all in all glorious afternoon at Link of Financial
By the way, the first time I've missed a game
at least over a decade and from home game because
a friend of mine got married. It was a great wedding,
but I was cheating and you know everyone's looking and
why I'm looking at my phone at the wedding. So

(05:17):
I didn't miss a minute of the game, but it
was I wasn't there.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
That was there?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Isaiah?

Speaker 5 (05:21):
For you though?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
What what is the feeling tonight? What tickets inside? Fans
don't really understand games over? How did you spend your night?
Did you celebrate making your start? I mean, did you
have family in the in the house?

Speaker 6 (05:33):
I did, but w'd have been a four o'clock game.
You know, we're kind of done about eight or nine,
so you kind of really just got to enjoy it.
It's about twelve am. And then after that you got
to go back to sleep and reset. You know, we
had work today, so we had to clean up the
film and be prepared for the next week with Dallas.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
How did it look on film and your performance?

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Uh, definitely room room to grow, you know, it was
my I was one of the few guys out there
first time starting, So it was you know, getting my
feet wet.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Star as an ego, and you're there because Darius got hurt.
Nice little tribute.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
Oh yeah, I actually had the jersey for a while
and I was telling him how I had one, and
it just was the perfect time to wear with the
Ben Kelly Green game and my jerseys Kelly Green.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So you were repping and and and that brings me
to a point which is, and I've been saying this
for a few weeks, and we appreciate you coming out
and everybody else on your team that has come to
help us do this show. What a great group of guys,
and it looks especially tight and that that tightness, to me,
really does translate into success on the field.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah, we're all brothers.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
You know.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
It started OTA's you know, I came in and Slay
took me under his wings over the offseason. So really,
just a conversation that we have off the field is
making a strong rolling.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
That's great. Now, I know you. I want to bring
you know how you wound up here.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
In Philadelphia in this story, but I want to talk
a little bit more about the game yesterday before we
get into that personal story, and that is that, and
that is that you know you there is a backup.
You know that it's the next man up and it
can happen at any time. Yeah, you know, Slay got
hurt the week before in Cincinnati, and you had a
huge play covering Chase in that game. And then you know,

(07:09):
one of the best players in the league and a
huge tip at the end I think c J. G
j Osi because you gave him a perfect tip for
interception to steal that victory or was a big part
of that game. So you are already contributing and then
you got to prepare for this week to start. But
it's got to be you know when when you say
Darius takes you under his wing, that's great that this
veteran player who I think is older than your d
Backs coach himsel he is that.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
He does that.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Talk about that, and then also I'm hearing great things
about your d Backs coach.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
Uh's slave just kind of tells me like, just be yourself,
don't go out there and try to do too much.
So going into that game this week they gonna be starting,
I didn't do anything differently.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
I didn't change my routine.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
You know, I continue to prep as if I was,
you know, still still doing my own roles. So even
when I was still a backup and things like that,
I was still preparing as if I was a starter.
So I didn't change anything, and Slave just told me
to be myself.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
For those fans who don't quite understand, Okay, so you're
studying a player's ability and you're studying his routes. Do
you find, Isaiah that there are a lot of differences
from one offense to another in terms of the route tree.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Is it generally the same stuff?

Speaker 6 (08:18):
It's a copycat leads, so you kind of get the
same concepts and routes, but every receiver is differently on
how they run him. So I think you got to prepare.
And also it makes a factor who their quarterback is.
They got the type of chemistry to make those type
of throws and do he trust him to take chances?
So like with Burrow and Chase, you know, they have
a history of being together, so you kind of gotta
look at like the.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Whole big picture of anything.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
With yesterday, you know, Jacksonville has all these injuries leading
up to the game. Really don't even know who's playing, Like,
I mean, did you have a sense of Gave Davis
wasn't gonna play and that Brian Thomas was gonna play.
And you know, Brian Thomas is a really fine looking
rookie player, very talented kid.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
Yeah, you still prepare as if they all going to play,
So you really don't try to look past it or
look look down in the depth chart and things like that.
So you just prepare as if their top guys going
to play and just be ready.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It was a great performance from the defense again.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
First half of that game, total domination by the Philadelphia Eagles,
a sixteen to nothing lead at the half, takeaway at
the end of the first half.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
It was just so huge. And the takeaways have been coming, coming,
coming more. It's been huge.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
I mean, Sydney Brown forces one on the first punt
of the game, two interceptions, one that ends the game,
one that ends the first half. These things are big
improvements in the defense. They say, what is happening? Why
is the first for defense and big plays and takeaways
starting to actually happen in big plays and big stops
from the defense.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
I think it's just the way we you know, we practice,
you know, our whole entire defense.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
This is real competitive.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
So I want interceptions, conall in interceptions, So if he
gets one, I feel like I gotta get one. So
it's a it's not a negative competition, it's positive. So
you see one of your brothers make up play now
as you're trying to go make a play and we
all eat.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
And the way that I mean you're watching the interception
l quarter at first half and the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Turn it into a touchdown. That's got to be so
gratifying for the defense.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Nah. Yeah, it's good because it gives you a little
time to relax and you know, take a pressure off
you and add more points on the board.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Definitely gets stressed out. The defense compsmentary football.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Gerald.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
That's why this team has won four straight games, six
and two on the road.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
For now, this Dallas game. And I know that you
are not looking.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Ahead, Isaiah, but it's Dallas, it's home with Washington, it's
La on the road, and then it's Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
You didn't even know all that is this? If?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Gerald, three, is this kind of the stretch where you're
gonna go this what is this team?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Well, look from my standpoint, sitting at six and two
is pretty darn good.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
And and they were two and two. You only look
at the.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Team directly in front of you, and right now it's
two division games, and division games are always critical. Even
though Dallas has been stumbling, you know, going down there
will never be easy. And apparently the report is that
Dak Prescott is going to be out, and frankly, from
my standpoint, I'm I'd rather see him in there with
what I've been seeing them do. But they're gonna They're
gonna play Cooper Rush. And have you already started looking

(11:02):
at Dallas film with all yourself? Uh?

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Yeah, I have so just been looking at their concepts
and things like that.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
We don't have a lot of Cooper Rush films we played,
you know, we played Cooper Rush a couple of years later.
I would it surprise you if they started Trey Lance, like,
why go Cooper Rush? You know what if you get
a full week to prepare Trey Lance. You acquired it
for a reason. I don't know how he played. I
don't know what what they think of him.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
You're right, I am just pumpety, or if they're patting
what I heard. If somebody say you're right, it's possible
that he's not even the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
But but the Eagles do you as.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
A defense and and and yourself prepare really for that,
Or it's just really the schemes because they're not going
to put a quarterback in and really change what they're
doing too much.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
I think it's more of the scheme. It's not really
so much of the players. I think the main thing
is knowing that divisional game. You know, anything can happen.
It's any given Sunday and the end of the day,
everyone's in the NFL, so you know everyone's capable of
making a different type of plays.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And Dave, to answer your question about this stretch to me,
because we're now in November, all right, Yeah, I always say,
and I picked a month that we're going. You don't
win super Bowls in September, but you can lose them.
You don't win them in October, but you can lose them.
And November starts to get where you cut your.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Teeth a little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
And now the league, you know, you're halfway through the season.
Teams know who they are, and I think the Eagles
have put themselves in the category of the real contenders
for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
I'm sure, you guys see it that way. We've seen
this since day one. You know, it's just all come
down to what we do.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
So I think it's all about you know, we can control,
we can control and continue to do to positive things.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah, I think so, Isaiah. Let's be honest here is
we're gonna go to break here in a minute. Isn't
that the same answer that every single player on every
single team has or do you feel like there were
some teams in Indianapolis that were not really competitive or
did you still feel the same way but that still
the same mindset that every player every team has.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Uh, I feel like it could be that way, but
it's a different feeling when you can just say it
all day, but when you really feel it, And that's
something I feel with this team, and you know a
lot of people in locker room the same way.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
And that's the way everybody felt coming out of training
camp Gerald, after the spring work at Novacare, after trading camp,
after preseason games. Everybody felt that this would be a
very good team. One novercare Way and then the two
and two record. While the rest of the outside world
was panicking a bit, inside the walls of the novercare complex,
no panicking all.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, Dave, that's this is an interesting question for you.
I mean, this is Isaiah's first year in uniform for
the Eagles. But Dave, you've been around the Eagles for
thirty years.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
As been a member of the organization for thirty years.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Okay, that's crazy. Is that crazy since you've on go
on to the Earth twenty six But Dave, and by
the way, I got to give a shout out. Spent
a lovely Saturday night with you and your your wife Angela.
I don't want to say her age unless you want
to put it out there, but nobody.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Wears that ageless age list. It was just a spectacular celebration.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Was the most beautiful one in the world and.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
The most happy husband. But anyway, and that was a
great evening. So Angela, tremendous birthday celebrations for you. But God,
I lost my training thought.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
No, see that, start talking about my wife. That's what
that's what you get. That pictured what you was a
don't talk about, but I do.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Remember exactly, which was you've been around the organization for
thirty years and you're going through Hey, that's all everybody
in the building felt.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
This year.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Is there a different feeling around this team that you've
experienced in the past.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, I mean there was one year back in the
eighties when no back in the night, no late night,
no late late late nineties, late nighties, late nineties, and
oh man, I'm a little spaced out right now. What
was the what was the offensive coordinator data Bible? We
had hired Dana Bible to do the offensive coordinator like
from North Carolina State or Boston College or something, and

(14:42):
he got fired in the at the in the middle
of the preseason, and.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
That was that was eighty maybe ninety eight, it was.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
It was it was Ray Roads last year before Andy
Reid came in, and the team was just not very good.
So you kind of know when you fire your offensive
coordinator before the regular season begins that things might not.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Be where you hope they would be.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
With But since really since Jeffrey's bought the team, it's
been largely really competitive teams, and you know that you're
sometimes you feel like you're missing something. And I know
the trade deadline is tomorrow. I don't feel that with
his football team. I think this team knows that it
can be a really, really good team and by the way,
we've overcome a lot of injuries.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Man, there's been guys out.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, when you were able to step in or play
sleigh and play so well in the defense, play so
well in offensive lines, had a bunch of injuries, and
wide receivers had injuries, and you keep winning. That's the
sign of a really good deep roster. Everybody knows the
role and people can adapt to injuries.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Well, let's give some shout outs to his teammates.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I wanted him to do it because there were some
special performances. You guys don't score like normal touchdowns. It's
either push pushes or and then when he does it's
it's just incredible. I mean, he had a very critical
point in the game yesterday because they've.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Cut it to twenty two sixteen.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I had two catches on the drive, one big play
down the left side, and then it's a spectacular country
games And I don't know how he did how he
got both feet out.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Now you go up against these.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Guys, yeah, so so talk about him and and what
you face in practice and how good that receiving corp is.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
I actually played Davante Smith back when I was in Indy,
so he was one of the top receivers that year
that I end up gardening. So now that I'm here
and see the way he work and the way he prepared,
he's in the building early in the first one in the building.
It's just little things like that, you see what just
builds up to help him like perform on Sundays.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Explain.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Okay for the people who don't know what playing Davante
Smith means, what does that mean? You're playing him and
you're you're playing him on scout team, right, so are
you talking about you guarded him in Indian Okay, yeah,
you were at some point in your career. Oh snoop,
Wait when.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
Did we play you guys twenty twenty the Super Bowl
year twenty twenty two?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
And how do we do what? We won that game?

Speaker 4 (16:50):
At the very end of the game on the draw?
Was that tick er the kicker who made oh was
the draw player?

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Draw? Frank?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Our offense stuck that game, Our offense stun You got
your defense. You guys did a really good game. It
was a pretty good game. And how did he how many?

Speaker 5 (17:03):
How many?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
How many catches did you have on me?

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (17:05):
He had two on me for like forty yards? This
was the most I gave up that year and I
was sick, so he.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Was, Uh what do you think about?

Speaker 5 (17:11):
How does he do with the body control?

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Uh, he's just like when you line up, he's like, okay,
he looks like he's you know, probably one hundred and
seventy pounds soaking wet. So in your mind may think like, okay,
I can easily get physical, but this guy, but he's
stronger than he looks, and he's willing to make any
catch possible, as any receiver could make in the league.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
So do you do You try to go in and
get a big hit on him, because it's really hard
to get your hands on.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Him right now. He's too quick, too quick Seliverty for
for a reason.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, his feet, his route running in his hands were
just unbelievable, which is why it doesn't matter that he's
not the biggest receiver out there. He's so dangerous that play, though,
he seems to do it every week. But that one
that catch, yes sday, I don't know how he did it.
One hand catch, got two feet down. It was just
good a catching.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
Yeah, that's that's normal. You see it A lot to
go out of practice. Crazy, What what I mean receiver.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
These receivers like years ago, Odell Beckham Junior's was the
thing that people talked about for years and then on
a weekend, Garrett Wilson and Devonte are doing it.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Why Isaiah are receivers making what is happening here?

Speaker 6 (18:09):
A things that happened Everyone just start practicing, you know, so.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
And they realized that with one hand they can sometimes
control that football. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
But it's also Look the athletes that you are covering,
and the corners are great athletes too. I mean, it's
an equal thing. But you're just covering the best athletes
in the world as well as comes down to and
you see it all the time. And look, if you're
you gotta just as a fellow d back, feel little
for the guy who was perfect coverage and Jalen throws
that ball in the only spot Devanta can catch it.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
He makes this spectacular care so through you know.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
And I want to since we digress to Indy for
a second, I do there's two Indie mansions that I
want that from your time there. One is Frank Reich.
He's actually a good friend of mine. Obviously the officive
coordinator for the Eagles. When they won the Super Bowl
in seventeen. I was playing for Frank Reich.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
It was a blessing.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
He drafted me, you know, he brought me in and
he was one of those coaches where I'm on to
defense this side.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
But you know, I still interact with him. He still
talks to me.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
And it's also a place where I met Nick, So
you know that my rookie year with him and my
second year was like, this is really a good thing
for me.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
And I was getting to that connection.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
So obviously you had history with the head coach Phildelphia
was Nick Sirianni.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
So when he saw you available, he grabbed ye yeah, yeah,
that's my guy.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
The first thing he said when I came inside my
contract was like I just had to come and get
you in and then you know, I'm just happy to be.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Here, all right.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
And one last thing on Indian and Dave you can
chime it forgot anything, but that is Rodney McLeod did
a whole year of the show with me, the twenty
twenty season of COVID, and it was just Rodney and
I every week.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
And I have such high regard for Rodney McLeod, such
an incredible human being and.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
One of the things he did, and Dave, we're here
on election Eve in twenty twenty, Rodney did a whole
thing where he got a bus for the Eagles players
with no top and it we ran around the city
of Phildelphia to get out the vote.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
It was not partisan, it was just to get out
the vote.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
And he was joined by so much one of your
teammates and first time at Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
He was he hadn't played yet and everywhere.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Went over town, people are screaming to him because Carson
Wentz is our starting quarterback.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Jalen, it's going to be your team. Little do we
know that four years later. That's crazy. It was a
really great thing. And just you played with Rodney. What
kind of guy is Rodney McLeod. He's the leader. For one,
he's the leader.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
He's like a big brother on the field, big brother
in the locker room. So he's just the guy that
just tells you everything on and off the field, what
to do, what not to do, and is just he
helps you with just life in general.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
He's so legit.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
And I also love that he's going to be a
Philadelphian when his career is over now he's gotten.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, he keeps going.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I mean he's in Cleveland. He's still doing good stuff
out there. But he will be a Philadelphian forever and
we're glad to have him.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
It's just good time.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Six or two Philadelphia Eagles with Isaiah Rodgers, Eagles cornerback.
We're gonna get into his story when we returned from
the break and the Philadelphia Eagles getting ready for the
Dallas Cowboys. This is Isaiah's first Dallas Sucks week of
his career as a Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
So it's gonna be a fun time here at Chickens
and Peace.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And you're listening to the from Philly Show Philly Players
Show that is we are live a chicken piece of Marlwton,
New Jersey's still time to come on out and we're
here every Monday. Listen to Daves Bdeero. Jerald called in
our special guest Isaiah Rodgers. Oh Fox Sports, A gambler.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Spreads totals and all the prop that's in the tween,
it's the Gambler.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Did you hear the clip they played as we came
back from the break.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You probably didn't hear it? Regular already fine, No, I'm
just kidding. You've been told comedy any about it, and
you had a lot of people who wanted to be
but it was a clip of the interception behind the
Kobe Dean to seal the game, want to play and
another guy that I kind of want to give a
shout out to your linebackers, Zach Baughan and Nikobe Dean

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had it to me what looked like a spectacular game yesterday,
each with interceptions, and of course Nikobe coming through.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Nakobe. Nikobe had a tough first two.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Years here after being a third up pick. Talk talk
to me just a minute about them, and then we're
going to get into you.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
I think it's just just watching how they worked throughout
training camp. You know, it's the first year together and
you know a lot of people on the outside just speaking,
you know, they don't know anything about them too, how
the chemistry is going to be, and you can just
slowly see every week that it's just slowly getting better
and better. Like I think, they get two straight games
with turnover, so it's just a beautiful thing to see.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
He's got to keep going.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
That's what's that's what seems to be really interesting about
the defense of the improvement used the word chemistry.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Learning a new defense.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
The way Vic fan Jo teaches it is there a
step by step Isaiah, just everyone kind of growing together
in the defense.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah, it's mainly just trying to not get too comfortable
and understanding that you may have one good week, you
may have one bad week, but just learning from your
learning from your lessons, learning from your losses and things
like that. So we just we just focused now on
just trying to get better day by day and continue
to go forward.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, Isaay, it's interesting because I've represented players for thirty
years myself, and corners corner to me, might be the
toughest position in sports. I know, Yeah, would you agree
with that?

Speaker 5 (23:24):
I definitely.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
And you know, obviously quarterbacks he has to do a lot,
and everybody's got a tough job. But quarter you are
just covering the greatest athletes of the world and you're
on an island, and even on.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Any great day, you're still going to give up stocks.
And it's just the way it works.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
You guys had a great day yesterday, but they saw
five catches, not good yard.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
But whatever whatever it might be, it's just there's no
way to do a perfect game.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Basically, and it was always said to me, you gotta
be strong on confidence, in short on memory.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
So when you say you know you're gonna have your
good days and you've been you're.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Gonna have your good plays and bad plays, and you
can't let the bad plays stay with you.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah, I think I think. I think you just hit
it right on the head.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
You know.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
It's kind of like when my play last week with Jamar, Like, yeah,
I got the tip to make the interception, but I
never got too excited about that moment. I enjoyed it
when in between the play clock and things like that,
but you know I had to understand that I still
got to go back out there, still got to continue
to make more plays. So you can get too lost
in a moment and go out there and get scored
on the next place. So that's why I think it

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makes our job so hard.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
All Right, You're also a human being.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
We all have immediate needs and egos, and we remember
the bad things that happened a lot of times. Where
did this start with you developing that mindset playing the
cornerback position. Have you always been a cornerback Isaiah? When
did you start kind of growing in your football career.
I kind of made the switch to corner.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
Late in my high school career, I played offense and defense,
but going into college, I said I would rather play defense.
So I thought I was a smaller guy, so I
would rather tackle people than get hit by people. So
I kind of make that switch then. So probably like
my sophomore year of college and when I really started
to like lock in on playing corner.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
And how does that happen? Is is it advice?

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Is it just you can't keep beating yourself up, you
can't keep celebrating, Like is it learning by example?

Speaker 6 (25:06):
I think it's more of life lessons, Like bad things
are gonna happen in life, Good things gonna happen in life.
You just got continue to keep going. So I think
I kind of just took that to the football field.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
All right, it's a perfect segue into your history as
a person. But I do want to touch on college
before we get to the pro career, and that is
you grow up in Tampa.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
You're a two way star, and obviously you're a blazer.
I mean you're a burner.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
We'll get to that speed and what you did at
your your own little workout, but you mass why you Mass,
and what are the choices you have because U mass
Is not known as a hotbed of football, and there's
not a lot of guys with me to the NFL.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
There's a few, certainly, yeah, but not a lot. So
tell me why you Mass.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
I had like two three coaches come to meet me
at my school and meet my mom, and just understand
that the connection was a lot different than the other
schools I had, like the Buffalo, I had like many
of the mad schools like Eastern Michigan Buffalo, but a
lot of schools turned me down, a lot of schools
that actually send me off for the guys.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Was like, I look.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Smaller in person, so you know that this kind of
gave motivation. And I was that kid who didn't care
about the fifty offers of the stars. You know you
only could choose one, So you've asked the best choice
for me.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
When did you think you have the skills to take
it to.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
The next level?

Speaker 6 (26:15):
My sophomore year of college when I got two interceptions
int Misissippi State, and that's when I was like, I
think I can do it.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
So that's an SEC school and you're playing a big
time say I'm not good enough for you guys, But
I picked up two of your boy exactly so, and
as you finished your college career, and you got to
fill me on how this works. I mean, the top
prospects getting ready to the combine or schools have proteins,
and I saw where you had your own pro day,
so tell me how that all came about.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
And obviously a lot of scouts showed up and you
wowed them.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
I was just really just working out, training and getting
ready for my actual prote Then they got canceled due
to COVID, and my agent was like, my agent called
I think an old scout from Tennessee Titans or something,
and then which put this whole well prote together with
everything's less legit, and we just went.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Out there and just did what we had to do
and send it to teams.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
And I think I think I talked to one team
leading up to that, and then I've talked to thirty
other teams after that.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
It must have been when you're a young guy COVID,
You're about to embark on your career and you don't
even know like the playing field.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
How did you handle that? What was that?

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Like?

Speaker 4 (27:19):
How scary was it? The uncertainty of it had to
be really navigated.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
The right way.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
I was that guy, like I knew I wasn't going
to do the most bench press. All I really cared
about was a forty in the speed drills. I know,
I had to stat to I could play at the
next level, you know, even where eether it's a kick
returner or a corner. So all I told my agent was, look,
I just want to run a forty. Let's put that
out there, and you know, I got to just get
my feet in the door.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
So well daved a lot of people get attention when
they do a four point two eight forty, So I mean,
there weren't a whole lot of guys running that, and
that was opened everybody's eyes.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
It actually was a it was a four to two
four five, but we said, let's just put four two
eights to nobody want to think that that is like cheating.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
So it did sound unbeliea.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
If it was, they would have been like, nah, it's
not he's not doing that though.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
And then you and then you want it.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I mean, it's interesting because COVID was such a strange time. Obviously,
fortunately you didn't get cheated out of your your senior
season or will play because the next year's group got
really cheated out.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
But but but.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
The same thing, you didn't get a chance to be
seen as much as you would have. So the fortune
eight was what really did it. It's funny that you
faster that he stills fast today, I'm.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Faster fas Wow fast. Who's the fastest guy on the
team me? I know it is definitely.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Is there ever ever a I know how competitive everyone.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
Is a race.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Wants to race you no matter what I think. There's
a lot of conversations, but I don't think nobody will
actually risk of injury. Barkley fast risk of injury.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Guys don't want to do that.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Yeah, but I'm a I'm a racer. I raced any day,
so different way from Paris.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
All right, So so you're so, uh draft experience?

Speaker 5 (28:58):
What was it like?

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Uh? It was hard, you know, because I didn't know
they're in the draft. A lot of teams called you
throughout the process, so a lot of a lot of
teams were calling. There's teams just calling just to check
in see how you're doing. I'm like, oh man, so.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
It was bad.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
I was getting called third fourth round, expecting to go,
and it was not those type of calls. So it's
mainly draining because you got your family here. I knew
I was in the first round or day two, guys,
I knew day three was my moment, So you know,
I didn't didn't look too too crazy on those days
when my name they get called, but just sitting around
with the family and knowing it was six round now
and I'm like, okay, no one's calling or nothing like

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that anymore. So it was kind of hard just to
watch the family just prepare for that moment. I think
by the time I got away from the TV, that's
when my phone started raining.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
It's so much pressure and it's so out of your control.
And you know, when you say that day three, it's
you know, it's a three day process, which to other
people and I seem like a lot, but when you're
going through it, those days must to be excruciating and long,
even though you had a good perspective and hey, I'm
not expected to go those first two but and unfortunately
that third day does a rapid fire, so they go quickly.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
Yeah, it was it was draining, but you know, it
all felt good in the end.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Who called Frank Reik. I don't know. It looked like
a Minnesota area code. I was.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
I was actually on the phone with another team, I
think at the time, I don't don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Well, they started calling you because they tell you they
want to sign you as a free agent if.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
You don't start throwing a little office like that.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
And I think I got a call from Minnesota area code,
but it was the coat.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
So it was weird, right, you know, with cell phones,
you never know.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I mean, but at the end of that day, you
are a member of an NFL team. That had to
be an absolutely incredible moment.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
And I know you didn't extend it.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
You have to get ready for rookie camp.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
But for that moment with your family there, what an accomplishment?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Did you feel that?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
I was actually at my cousin's house and I was
there when he got drafted as well, so it was
like a full circle. So just him being I was
actually in his room just talking to him, like wondering
what to do if I don't get drafted. He was
telling me like someone's gonna call, And it was weird
because I think I got a call in like two minutes.
Let so just really enjoying that moment with him, and
then just walking out of the room and saying my
name on a TV in front of the whole entire family.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
It was a good feeling, awesome.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
I mean, I got to ask this because I'm so
emotional and I get welled up just hearing you.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
Did you cry it all? I don't think I cried.
I probably cried a day later or something. My family
cried enough for me.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I'm sure the people that made the journey with Yeah,
it was crazy, all right. So you make the Indianapolis cold,
which is not a guaranteed thing when you were six
round picked. So yeah, you're right, and you're never guaranteed
anything in the NFL, as you know and as you
have seen. But career got off to a good start
and then you hit a stumbling block at the end
of the two Well.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
I always wear a wristband on my arm. It says
never let your head down unless you're praying. So that
was my motive throughout my whole entire year off and
and it was kind of those moments where I looked
at it like everything having for a reason, you know,
and it's the reason for me to be in here.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
And if if.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
If none of that would happen, I wouldn't be a
Philadelphia Eagle. So you know, I kind of just find
a positive and all my negatives to keep going.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
All right, So how would you describe things in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (32:01):
As Aah?

Speaker 5 (32:02):
What has enabled you to get to this point?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
You've had the big moments, you've had the tough times,
You've gone through things that a lot of players would
be defeated by.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Well, why are you here?

Speaker 6 (32:13):
What has been your strength which vide your rock? I
think throughout life you got to find your why. And
I think once you find out why, nothing can really
stop you. So I think once I found my why
throughout my suspension and really before that, you know, once
I got into lead, I found my why and I
just continue to go.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
You know, you got a lot of people around.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
You that you want to make happy, and you know
you want to succeed for them.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
So I think that's why I keep going. Fine, you
stay involved with the game.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, can you talk about that with.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
With with with people like what what what kept you sharp?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
How did you stay how did you stay ready?

Speaker 5 (32:43):
About a drug machine? About a gym?

Speaker 6 (32:45):
So I spent a lot of money trying to you know,
stay in shape and just trying to stay on the
NFL schedule, like I was working out on Sundays like
it was a game, and I take Tuesdays off like
a regular schedule. I just try to just keep myself,
you know, motivated, and continue to just to watch games.
And I was watching film as well on the NFL
happened really just act like I was still there.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Defining my why is a really interesting comment to me.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
And and you really felt like you found it during
the suspension, during the downtime.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Yeah, sure I found it.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
I found definitely my kids and just just waking up
to them every day was a blessing to actually be there,
you know, while they were so young, and now they're older,
they understand they always singing the flag goes flass long now.
So I think without me being suspended, I would have
been there every day with my kids.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And Isaiah, I mean you are Isaiah senior. Yeah, you know,
Isaiah Rodgers senior. There aren't a lot of seniors that
you read. So you have two one year old children,
two year olds, two two year olds, so a daughter
and a son. Yeah, and that's got it. So that
time together and time you can never ever get back
is really unbelievable, and I know you found some other

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things during that time period also.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
Uh no, though, I really just continue to do what
I was doing as if I was still playing, you know.
I continue to go bowling with the guys and and
just played fotball. That's pretty much all I did.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Did you gain perspective watching.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
The game, you know, as a non participant for that.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Year, did the game? Could you look at you look
at when you came back.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
Did you look at things still a little bit differently
at all? Now? I just didn't take the game for granted.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
But throughout the suspension, I didn't I try to be
a fan for what because I've never been a fan
for football, had always been a player, and I don't
know what my career will be over, so I don't
know when I'll be a fan again. So I kind
of just wanted to enjoy just being a fan, sit
on the couch and eat the chips and things like that.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
So I'm just really just enjoying that. It's the game.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
It's the game. You can you learn anything watching watching
a game on television.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
No, you can't. Just the view of the angles of
the game. You don't see the final routes.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
You don't see like the you don't know the plays,
you don't know the college and don't know who's doing
what's wrong. So I kind of can see our fans
still a certain way when they see certain things exactly
really don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Get they don't know, and you know, I think the
most unfair thing is that people who in the media
and we are you know, I've been doing this.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
For a long time on the team side.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
But you watch a game one time in a press box,
and maybe you watch a replay and then you write
about who played well and who didn't play well.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Like, that's so unfair.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
You have to watch every play, yeah, four times five
times to understand and know the calls to really be
accurate with a true evaluation of who is good and
who's not good. And it's it is for I would
imagine for an athlete to hear the outside world would
be probably detrimental because one way or the other people

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can't possibly know what they're talking about.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Is that fair to say, Yeah, you gotta play with that,
especially when that especially when you know when and they
write something about you, but you know that they're wrong.
It's like you really can't really say anything. You just
got to keep going.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
I mean, Dave, we talk about it, you and I
all the time.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
When I go to a game, I know the basics
of it, but I can't tell you how anybody in
particular played us. You got to really focus on that guy,
which is why the All twenty two is important.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
And without watching the All twenty two, you're only seeing
glimpses of what's going on in that field. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
I actually had al Tony two throughout my year off,
so I finally see that perspective.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
So did you watch a lot of teams in the
league or did you prepare as a Philadelphia Eagle? Why
you're on the reserve list, but a member of the
team essentially, were you preparing as if you were playing
the Eagle schedule?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Nah?

Speaker 6 (36:19):
I watched. I watched every game. I was like a fan.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
So okay, so let's go back to a question I
want to understood. As you're watching US, did you have
appreciation for other players but maybe you didn't know they
were so good or or vice versa, they weren't as
good as you thought they were. Were their guys that
jumped out and say, you know, I didn't really know
much about that guy, but I just watched every every
the last three weeks of his action.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
He's a much better player than I was.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
Probably like that with the younger guys over there in Indy,
Like once I left, knowing the younger guys had to
step up, they didn't go out and get any free
agents or anything like that. So I kind of was
watching those younger guys to see, you know, how they do.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
And how were you enjoying Philadelphia?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I mean, you grew up in Tampa School in Amherst, Massachusetts,
first few years in Indianapolis.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
You were never in a place like this. Yeah, well,
there is no other place like this. I don't think
it's anywhere in the world that it's like Philly. There's
a lot of sports fans here and then they're very passionate.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
And if you had your choice of fashion, Kelly Green,
Kelly Green for sure. I mean, I just David, I
think that's such a beautiful look for the film for Eagles.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Well, I'll tell you yesterday it was a really festive day.
I mean, it was a beautiful late afternoon, you know,
in we turned the clocks back, it's fall.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
It was it was nice, cool and crisp, and the
fans were ready to go.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Everybody looked the stadium was all dressed, all the all
the bunting is all Kelly green. The players looked awesome
in the Kelly Green helmets and jerseys. And then we
had the halftime ceremony with Sehaun McCoy, who for six
years here in Philly was just a great running back
all the time leading Rushier and franchise history. We had,
you know, more than a dozen Hall of famers come

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back and pay tribute to Shady and at the time.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
We were leading sixteen nothing.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
It was it was a reminder of just how you know,
Eagles come back after winning three games.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
The fans were fired up for the football game.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
So I to me, that's like that's utopia, right, That's like,
that's like a perfect afternoon.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
And so I would imagine players for you.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
I remember, Isaiah, when you signed with the Eagles and
you talked about in training camp how excited you would
be to run through the tunnel a game, and you
did that for the first time back when the stadium
you had fifty thousand people for training camp, and you
you've gained you've gained an appreciation for the culture of Philadelphia,
haven't you.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Yeah, it's good stuff to be a Philadelphia Eagle.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
And to be winning in this city. It's pretty pretty
good times.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Huh yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
I just it's just entertaining just to see, you know,
the perspective on how fans viewed the game, and they're
just so passionate, and those type of fans you want.
You don't want those fans to just let anything get
by or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
So I just love a passion for the fans.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Have you gotten to the point where you have established
relationship with people? I know that before the game in
where were we? I took a video of you having
a catch and you could do it a lot before
a game. I guess for a New York you have
a catch, you throw football in the stands and just
try to pick out kids.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
And what a difference you can make to a kid.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
By engaging with that person for two seconds before a game.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
It can make a difference forever. Why do you do that?
It all started in India.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
I gave a kid thinking some gloves and hand up
buying my jersey, and ever since then, like I gave
him something every game. He decorated his whole room with
Isaiah Rodgers stuff. So you know, I've been that kid
before in the stands. I've been to Super Bowls before
I got I got a football for Mike Tomlin as
a kid. So it's just those moments like that. I
know what the kids are expecting or you know, wanting
of those moments. They don't want to just sit there

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all games. So you know, the end of the day,
I just want to give clice away, give gloves away,
because when it's all all over it, you know, none
of that's going to matter. So I'd rather just you know,
get back to the fans powerful stuff.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
And Dave, you're right if you make a difference in
the kid's life and you saw just that little gesture
you did to that kid, Yeah he's not Isaiah Rodgers
for life.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
And but but but you can motivate.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
I mean, that's why I mentioned Rodny McCloud earlier being
his team with him. Roddy does a whole lot of
stuff to make sure he gets back to the cam.
He probably were off with you a little bit now, Yeah,
he definitely does. And then the part about being a
Philadelphia Eagle and you probably experienced the first glimpse you
got of it was in twenty twenty two when Eagles
come to Indianapolis and you see a whole lot of

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green and here a whole lot.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Of Eagles fans in your dome.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
Noh yeah, it was crazy, especially like just the energy,
like what we made plays and then you hear our
fans screaming the next thing you know that Eagles make
a play, and then it still sounds the exact same
amount of people. I'm like, wall is it a home
or away game? So just that moment right there let
me know what type of fans we have. But I
really really knew when we went down to New Orleans
and the fans there this year was definitely the eye opener.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Listen, those fans you're talking about are lining up because
there's a whole lot of people that want to say
lord to you and meet you and brust some modems
for you to put your signature on. Then that will
only increase some value. We know that. So we're gonna
come back for a final segment and look ahead to Dallas.
But we've enjoyed the first part of this show. It's
Dave Spedero and Gerald Culton, along with our special guest

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Isaiah Rodgers year on the All Pro Philly Players Show
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Speaker 4 (41:36):
It was really hard to tell, obviously, bang bang back
of the end zone. And I think when the ball
went up from Jalen Hurts, nobody in the world thought
that that would be a.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Catch, did you.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
I did.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
I've seen it before. He knew. He knows stuff we
don't know. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Wait, welcome back to the final segment of the All
Pro Philly Player Show Live on Fox Sports. Gambler from
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food to go with you. I know, Isaiah, you've been
a Chicky's and Peach before.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
I've probably been like I eat at airport a lot.
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Speaker 2 (42:13):
But this is where the players actually go. And you
could come watch Monday night football here tonight, or college
basketball starting build Novah' starting tonight to.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Ows Temple Owls against Secret Hearts tonight.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
There you go, and my Rutgers team might have a
team this year.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
You know, I knew Cooper Flag was the first, the
number one recruit.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
I didn't know that your two guys are numbers two
and three, and it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
So they actually have some player.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
When I was in school, ISA, it was a long
time ago, but you Mass and Rutgers were both in
what was the Eastern Ad and then became the Atlantic
Ten together. They were in the same conference. Way back
to the world has changed a lot since those days.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
I was in the room of the day that John
Cheney went after U Mass coach John Calipari.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
You probably don't know. The story was long before you
were born.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
You know, cal Perry was at U Mass. Yeah, I
know of them, Okay, and John R.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
John Channy cali Perry was getting a press Cormens and
John Chenny came storming into the room and tried to
strangle it.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Oh we missed those days.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Of course, Philadelphia guys are getting fights too likely, Hall
of famers getting fights in Jason Kelsey and Joel Embiid.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
So we're feisty here in Philadelphia. I know, right, you
have to be.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
You have to have thick skin.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
All right, Let's as you do when you play cornerback,
and let's explain to people, Isaiah, the actual rules of
the game what a cornerback is allowed to do and
what you are not allowed to do? So how much
can you touch a wide receiver and for how long?

Speaker 6 (43:38):
So throughout the snap you can touch him up you
can do whatever you want to do up to like
five yards after that's the legal touching at all.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
You can't touch it now you try to do it
like arm bars, you can, you can put hands on,
you can't aggressively put hands so you can't like any
type of disrupts into this movement going forward.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
You're not allowed to do it after five yards.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I will tell you, David, it's a great question, because
have you watched a lot of football, way longer than
you've been on this earth, Isaiah, not not the same
way you've watched it, and I haven't played it, of
course in anywhere close compacit with you. But the rules
have changed over time and they do Dave allow a
lot more contact.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Than it looks like from the outside.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
So I'm sure your coach in a way that your
coach wants you to stay engaged.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Right, Yeah, you taught to leave hands on but not
really aggressively, so you don't want to get a flag.
But you know, the balls in the air, you can't
really you can't touch them that off and that's great.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
How can how can you? How can how do you?

Speaker 4 (44:27):
What's what's the teaching point on grabbing a jersey and
not having it look like you're grabbing a jersey? Do
you have to like grab it down low at at
the bottom of the shoulder pad, like what's.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
You can grab it? You just can't grab to pull.
You can just grab to like hold your balances or
things like that. Like for me, I'll kind of probably
grab it just to feel where you are, but I
won't aggressively pull it.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
Well, you got to learn how to cheat, you I mean,
it's not cheating.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
It's not cheating.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
It's it's not if you don't get golf for it.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
It's being aggressive with the rules.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
And I believe this that the NFL constantly changes the
rules because defensive players are more athletic than offensive players
and that and that defenses always catch up to offenses,
and the league needs teams to score points so they
cheap hit when the when the NFL catches up, the
league changes the rules so that the offense could score

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more points.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
It could be that you know, that's oll tickets, so yes,
exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
And in fantasy and stuff like that, you know, you know,
cornerbacks aren't getting points unfortunately, you know, which saves you
from me and yelled at for fans for costs.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
To the fantasy team.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
You know. But but this all brings a point that
I wanted to get to.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
And because I'm curious you're comments on this guy if
he's he came in as kind of a relatively unknown
and he's starting to get I'm starting to hear.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
His name mentioned as a guy who's really influential.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
This Christian Parker your your d Backs coach, and you've
had a few and of course nixt Syrian he was
your coach where he started, and things like that. This
guy's got a shot to be a really special coach.
Doesn't he No, Yeah, I can.

Speaker 6 (45:58):
I can see him in the future being a defensive
coordinator somewhere. You know, he's he has the mindset for it,
he has the ambition of the game, and you know
he's consistent in his coaching and things like that, and
his energy is always there. So those type of guys
you want to have at higher ups.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
And he's your age basically.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
I mean he's thirty two, so he's got a few
years in you know, Slaves got him by at least
a year or something. But now we're preparing for Dallas weekend,
and and you know, each week has it has its
own rhythm. Your season got off to such a strange
start by starting in Brazil and then coming back with
the bas and in which most players seem to like.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Right, But you said you've already started to look at
that film.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Obviously, going to Dallas is a longer flight in it
it's a three hour trip at the Saturday. But take
us through what you will do and what you will
be watching and preparing for.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
I prepare more on like just saying what they do
throughout different formations and different schemes, at what point of
the field would they do this what point of field
they do that, and just knowing what they do in
the red zone and what's their go to players in
the red zone or whether they at midfield getting ready
for the shots and sudden change moments and things like that.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
So you just got to be prefair for everything.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Lamb, what is that?

Speaker 5 (47:04):
What?

Speaker 3 (47:04):
What what makes CD Lamb such a great football player?

Speaker 7 (47:07):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (47:07):
He just finds the way to catch the ball.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
You know, is he he's shifting in his routes and
you know, he does what he need you to get open.
And he has great hands and he has late hands
to you know, to try to catch the ball late.
And he's just he's just real good at what you do.
Physical guy, Uh, I played him, I won't say that
much physical. He was more in the slot, so he
has a lot of a lot of space to work with.
So I don't really know on the physical side of it.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
And then the other thing to kind of talk about
from a technique standpoint and just relating to the fans
outside cornerback versus a nickel cornerback, which Vic Fangio in
training camp when the reporters asked him about that, he said,
a nickel cornerback is not a cornerback.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Yeah, do you understand when he's like a linebacker, because.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
You're you're gonna have so many run responsibilities to.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
You, like the quarterback of the defense.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
You know, you're the more more vocal person and you
got to rerun pass, you got to get in then
a gap and things like that. You also still got
to cover the most shiftiest guys on the opposite team.
So it's probably the most athletic person on the team.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
And I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
You know, good shit, you're you're about my height and
obviously are athletic. That's where are similars in.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
You know. That's it.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
But covering a larger receiver does present problems at all.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
Uh, not really because you kind of like be prepared
for it. And it's like if you got a six
four receiver, for example, you probably know you can't out
jump them. So it's kind of like goes into your
practice takness throughout that week of knowing just Okay, I'm
not going to out jump them, so I got to
try to catch them all the way down. You gotta
come down, so you know, I'm gonna try to get
my hands on the ball and all your way down
and try to disrupt your hands and things like that.
But I feel like if if you do what they

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do at the beginning that they're out and a quarterback
probably want to throw it to them.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Now in that first five yards, you're you can other
than holding, you can do anything you want physically.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
To a guy. Yeah, yeah you can. Without holding. You
you can touch your physical.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
And your target when you're when you're want to control
a receiver, what are you aiming for with your hands?

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Say, like more of a like breast play area, So
not really on outside or so just because he just
slipt lost the morning, it's.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Not ever do any martial arts.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
No, No, I know some people do some some sorts
of different training involved to make that punch or whatever.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
You know, you get to get your hockey.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
The gerald what is what is Dallas week?

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Me to you? How?

Speaker 5 (49:21):
You know?

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Listen, I'm one of those rare guys who actually has
good relationships with the Dallas Cowboys organization, So I don't
hate them the same way everybody does. I also think
the rivalry has been a little bit has lost a
little bit of steam because we're.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
Better than the Cowboys organization. Well, they won the division
last year. They did, but we were still.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Better twelve twelve games. They won twelve games in each
of the last three seasons.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
They are a mess right now, but that doesn't affect you,
and I don't want to in any way take them lightly. Obviously,
the the Dallas Cowboys, and at some point there's so
much talent on that in that locker room on that
team that they will get it together for at least
one game, so you know, and they'd like nothing more
to do it against the Eagles. So it's to me,
it's it's just a very important because it's an in
division game and you want to keep this role going on.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
It's four straight and you want to make it five.
That's that's the biggest significance it is to me right now.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Yeah, I mean it's interesting after the game yesterday, I
run on the field and do like interviews for guys
when there when they're coming off the field for the boards,
and I got Lane Johnson and I asked him about Dallas.
Who you know, next opponent Dallas, who was like, yep,
next game. I'm like, but yeah, but Lane, it's Dallas,
It's Dallas. He goes, yeah, just another game, And that's
the right mindset to him. I think I agree with you,
daryld in that it's always been about the fans and

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about the media and for the fans and for the media,
great stuff. And I I love the Eagles fans hate
the Cowboys fans so so much. But from the football
team side, it's a division game and that's that's the
important thing.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
And I do tell you this, And you've played in
Jerry's world, right have you? Have you been been in
that stadium?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, it's a distracting stadium. It is so huge, and
there's so much going on on. You, of course, are
focused on the game. When I'm there as a fan.
This the board takes up the whole field, and there's
there's a little.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
Hard from a player suspective, like you can't I can't
see the screen, so you can't really watch the game.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
But the fans got a good view.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah, yeah right.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
And it's also we gotta we gotta close by.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I want to say, people here in Philadelphia don't realize
that the Cowboys fans don't have nearly the passion for
the Cowboys that we have for the Philadelphi Eagles.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
Here in this room, we think it's a rivalry.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
But back there, you know, they're they're concerned with a
whole lot of other stuff. They show up and and
it's fashion will be a Cowboys fan, but it's still
not the same thing.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
So anyway, what's it mean to you playing the Cowboys
as we.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
I don't even know yet. I'm just I'm just trying
to get the glimpse of it throughout the city. I've
just been kind of just watching how the fans go
about it. So I'm definitely looking forward to it listening.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
There's a lot going on in this city. It's a
great time to be here.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
The Eagles are hot, the Phillies had their playoff run,
the Sixers, Paul George makes his debut tonight, the Flyers
have the Young Guy.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
You know, there's a big rally, political, big concert.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
Tonight in phil I mean of this city.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Is rocking, and I'm glad you're joining your Experienceaiah.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
I think your journey back to the NFL is an
aspiring one for everybody. The message take responsibility for what
you do, and do not lose sight of your goal
and your dream, and keep working hard. Don't let anybody
tell you know what I imagined at some point in
your life, not being the biggest guy and having that
happen to you.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
People told you it wasn't gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Yeah, I heard that a lot. Hurt that a lot.

Speaker 8 (52:21):
So's all the motivator. Yes, I'll look to me at
the end of the day. Amen David to what he said.
All Right, we gotta go and a few people to
thank you before we get out of here. For christ
Tomorrow is election day and I do support everyone voting.
I'm not taking sides here.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I mean I have my own choices, but to everyone
to get out and vote, it's important and uh, this
is a great country and we want to keep it
that way. So my partner, Daves Pedera, thanks he was
inside or appreciate it. Thanks Joe, and obviously Isaiah Rogers Senior.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Thank you Isaiah rod you having your number thirty four
Eagles quarterback. Great job yesterday. Congrats on the win and
let's go win in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I'm sure your body's a lot more sorry after playing
a full game than it usually is.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Now I still feel better, so good. It's imp awful.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Just to start.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
Baby is one beautiful thing to hear.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Keep it going, we love, we love seeing out there,
and we appreciate the time youend of having you here
after your first start and being such an important.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Part of that victory yesterday.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
John Jansen over here controls us to get out all
week goes back, he goes Villanova's coming up afterwards, Villanova's
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