August 15, 2025 • 38 mins
In this powerful episode of the Alpha Male Podcast, Heather Krause and Father Gregg Krause share their personal journey navigating cancer treatment while uncovering the critical role of cancer nutrition in recovery. Gregg’s rapid weight loss during treatment led him to discover the benefits of a protein-rich diet, low-carb nutrition, and consistent exercise during cancer treatment—even when hospital guidelines suggested otherwise.
They discuss:
- The sugar and cancer link you need to know
- Why a low carb cancer diet or carnivore diet can support healing
- The hidden dangers of hospital nutrition protocols
- How self-advocacy can transform your recovery journey
If you want real, experience-backed insights on holistic cancer recovery, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Hi guys, and welcome to another episode of the Alpha
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Male Podcast.
I'm one of your hosts, HeatherKrause.
SPEAKER_01 (00:30):
awards and father greg kraus thanks for joining us
today today's
SPEAKER_02 (00:37):
topic so last week we talked about cancer and um
not a very fun subject butsomething that's very relevant
um and We actually got a ton ofquestions on, you know, because
we didn't really touch on dietlast week.
It was more like, you know,asking questions and what to
look for in a doctor.
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But we got a bunch of questionsfor how do you eat if you are
diagnosed or, you know, a lovedone's diagnosed, which diet does
play such a huge role whensomething like that happens.
I mean, you know, food ismedicine, so...
SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
Yeah, and I will say from going through it myself, it
is a scary thing because thedoctors make it sound like
they're God, and you've got tofollow exactly what they say.
And I think some of the doctorshave very, very good intentions,
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and other doctors, it's a job,and they just follow.
Whatever they were taught.
And not that it's the latest andgreatest, but that's what they
know.
SPEAKER_02 (01:46):
Yeah, and it's also, like, not just to follow them,
but to follow them now.
So, like, there's definitely a,like, they put a lot of urgency
on their recommendations, forsure.
Like, increasing your fear.
SPEAKER_01 (01:59):
Right.
They don't give you a chance tostop and really go out and talk
to them.
maybe another medical place orsomeone else who has experienced
cancer because I know there'smany different types out there.
But it sure seems like a lot ofthings would help whatever type
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of cancer you have.
SPEAKER_02 (02:23):
And, you know, with diet recommendations, this goes
even if you do, you know, decideto do chemo, radiation, whatever
treatment you're, you know, Yes,just to interrupt you.
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In
SPEAKER_01 (02:52):
my situation, I lost 50 to 60 pounds of body weight
when I was going through it.
SPEAKER_02 (02:59):
Yeah, and it was like a month and a half, I think
it was.
So it was crazy.
It was definitely a...
Very fast, rapid weight loss.
But you put it back on just asfast.
And that's what we want to kindof hone in today is how do you
stay healthy and keep thatweight and keep good, healthy
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weight on that's going to helpyou get through whatever
treatment that you decide to do.
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
I know I got an argument with the nutritionist
at the hospital because theyhave some funky guidelines.
Because I was down 153 or 156pounds, whatever it was, that's
how they fed me.
And I'm like, I'm usually 210 to220.
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So you're not feeding mecorrectly.
And luckily my doctor, NMTAnderson, great guy, He said,
Greg, I'm going to write aprescription so you can do what
you need to do.
And I gained like 30 pounds backin like two and a half, three
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weeks.
And once again, it was weightthat I had had before.
SPEAKER_02 (04:16):
Well, it's crazy that you needed a prescription
by a doctor to eat the way youthought that you should eat.
Like, that's wild to me.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
Well, because the nutritionist controlled
everything at the hospital.
I
SPEAKER_02 (04:32):
know, but I'm saying, like, you should be able
to control that.
Like, what if the doctor saidno?
You know, like, I just thinkthat that whole thing's why.
I mean, we would have done it
SPEAKER_00 (04:40):
anyway.
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Yeah, I mean, we're just happy we got to do it the
easy way.
But it is, but so many peoplethat would, you know, that would
stop them.
I feel like they'd be afraid toask or push forward.
And
SPEAKER_01 (04:55):
one thing the doctors said, they were amazed
at how quickly I recovered andeverything else that normally
doesn't happen.
Well, I think a lot of it goesback to we were aggressive by
how we wanted to come back andbe normal again.
SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
Yes, and I definitely think that that
played a huge part in it.
Like, it was just, you know,we're going to come back.
We're not going to kind of, youknow, I don't know, wallow in
our losses, and we're just goingto hurry up and get all this
weight back on and just kind ofget back to normal, whereas I
think, again, a lot of peoplekind of take a step back.
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They feel a little defeated, andI think the quicker that they
can put it back on, you know,all that muscle memory that they
have, it's going to come onquicker the quicker you kind of
try to put it back on.
SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
And once again, I exercised while I was doing
this.
I just didn't sit around with afeeding tube in.
In the beginning, I walked.
And they will tell you, MDAnderson, I set the record 86 or
88 laps, whatever it was, twodays after my surgery.
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Now, once again, I'm not tellingyou to do that.
I'm telling you to get up andget moving and join the human
race again.
Because when I went around onthat floor and I looked in every
room, those people were justlaying there.
And I kept nodding to them tocome out and walk with me, and
some of them did, and they felta lot better.
SPEAKER_02 (06:32):
Yeah, movement is super important.
I mean, you worked out through,even when you were doing chemo,
and stuff and radiation, youwere lifted.
SPEAKER_01 (06:40):
After radiation, I would drink a protein drink, go
to the gym and train for anhour.
SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
Mm-hmm.
And don't forget, guys, too,like nutrition, like with
lifting.
Just like in the gym when you'rebreaking down your muscles and
your cells and you eat to repairthat, that's how it is with
radiation.
Your cells are getting blasted.
You need to make sure you'reeating to repair your body and
to nourish it.
SPEAKER_01 (07:07):
And now what rebuilds your body?
What nutrients?
SPEAKER_02 (07:13):
Protein, hands down.
SPEAKER_01 (07:15):
Which is made up of amino acids.
SPEAKER_02 (07:17):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
Which is what your body uses to rebuild itself.
I love broccoli, but broccolidon't build muscle.
SPEAKER_02 (07:26):
No.
And so what, like, Dad, I'll askyou even though I know what
you're going to say.
What diet would you, like, ifyou're talking about, too, like
with nutrients and macros, whatkind of diet would you
recommend, like generallyspeaking, if somebody was
diagnosed with cancer, like nomatter what kind of cancer, what
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would you tell them to do?
SPEAKER_01 (07:51):
I guess the first thing I would tell them to do is
to write down what they'reeating and send it to me.
And then, or you, because sinceyou do this with me, and we
would look at it, and I knowright off the get-go, the
donuts, the cookies, the candy,and I know you don't feel good,
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you feel sorry for yourself, andthat's a comfort food.
Well...
That comfort food ain't helpingyou.
SPEAKER_02 (08:22):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (08:23):
Remember, sugar feeds cancer.
SPEAKER_02 (08:27):
Across the board.
That's how it is.
SPEAKER_01 (08:29):
And that's why we would knock down all those
simple carbohydrates with sugarbeing number one.
And I would eat more of it.
I know people don't like to hearthis, the carnivore diet.
UNKNOWN (08:46):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (08:46):
But I'll tell you what, it'll help keep your body
going.
It'll keep you strong to fightall this.
And it's important that yourbody repairs itself because of
everything you're going through.
And that was one thing I knowthe doc was amazed with myself,
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how quick I bounce back andeverything else.
I mentioned this once before, hewas using me as an example.
He had to go to Sweden or...
SPEAKER_02 (09:19):
I think it was Amsterdam.
SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
Amsterdam, I'm sorry.
My brain cells aren't back yet.
But he was one of the guestspeakers that they picked six
from around the world.
And I was the subject that wedid a video for him to play over
there and what I did and what Ilook like and everything.
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And not that I'm Superman,but...
I didn't sit back and listen tojust what they told me.
I asked, why?
Why do you want me to do that?
Why do you want me to eat that?
Why can't I eat this?
Why can't I do that?
And I think that's so importantthat you empower yourself and do
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some reading and don't justlisten to the one doctor.
SPEAKER_02 (10:09):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (10:09):
Go out.
We went to many places.
SPEAKER_02 (10:13):
Well...
Also with that about don't justlisten to the doctor, like how
we said sugar feeds cancer,well, they will have a plate of
cookies waiting for you afteryou're done with radiation, like
as a reward.
Or like you had some of– one ofyour side effects from radiation
was a dry throat, and they toldhim the remedy is to suck on
lemon heads.
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Well, lemon heads have sugar inthem.
And we even like– we were like,wait, what?
We're like– You want sugar-freeones, even though those have
chemicals in them.
But we were just curious wherethis person's head was at.
And they're like, no, no, no,no, regular ones.
We're like, the ones with sugar?
And you had throat cancer, whichmeans the sugar is going right
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over where you have cancer.
Is this person out of theirmind?
SPEAKER_01 (10:58):
And
SPEAKER_02 (11:02):
sugar damages your cells anyway, like cancer or
not.
It damages cells.
And so if you're, especially ifyou're going through a chemo or
radiation where your cells aregetting damaged and cells that
shouldn't be damaged are gettingdamaged, the last thing you want
to do is put sugar, somethingdamaging, into your body.
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So it doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_01 (11:25):
And I know a lot of you are addicted to having
something sweet.
One thing I know Heather and Ido with our clients, if it's
somebody just wanting to getback in shape, if they have
sugar with every meal, we havethem do sugar at every other
meal.
Run that for a week.
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Then we do it for like once aday.
They can have one meal.
And then we eventually movedthem once every other day, every
three days, et cetera, until youare in control again.
What you got to realize is sugaris like a drug, like heroin.
SPEAKER_02 (12:04):
It is.
It's one of the most addictivesubstances on the planet.
And so obviously we want...
No sugar.
But when you're working with anaddict, you've got to sometimes
wean them off because theycan't.
They have really badwithdrawals.
They feel even more like crapafter what they're going
through.
So you kind of have to work withthem on this.
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And so it's not terrible, likeyou said, to just slowly wean
them off, but to do it as fastas possible because it really
makes a difference.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
And you'll notice you'll start feeling
SPEAKER_02 (12:39):
better
SPEAKER_01 (12:40):
once you get away from that.
Now, we're not telling you neverhave sugar again.
I'm going to give you my ownsituation.
Once a week, and it's usuallySunday, my last meal of the day
or second last meal of the day,I'll have something that's
sweet, whether it's ice cream orwhatever.
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But By the time I have that,it's the end of the day.
So I'm not getting all these madcravings because I'm getting
ready to go to bed shortly.
But if you start eating it earlyin the day,
SPEAKER_00 (13:20):
then
SPEAKER_01 (13:21):
those cravings sometimes come up and bite you
in the rear end.
So set yourself up for success.
And if you need more help withthat, feel free
SPEAKER_02 (13:34):
to contact us.
And, too, if you are one ofthose that are addicted to sugar
and you find yourself in thissituation, you got diagnosed
with cancer and you've got tostop and you've got to wean
yourself off, one thing I wouldrecommend is start those meals
that you are eating sugar,whether it's ice cream or candy,
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whatever, try to get away fromhigh fructose corn syrup and try
to find something with likeideally like organic sugar or
like there's coconut sugar.
There's all different kinds thatare, you know, less processed.
Still, you know, Best scenariois no sugar, but at least you're
getting better options andyou're starting to get away from
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those chemicals and anythingthat causes an insane amount of
inflammation.
So I would start to do that.
Let's just say you can't give upyour ice cream.
Well, I would start looking foran ice cream that's more
natural.
Or even...
bake it something yourselfthat's actually like the best
thing is bake your your own cakeand not from like a duncan hines
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box i'm talking from likescratch so you know what
ingredients you're putting inbecause that's going to be a lot
better than picking up some youknow betty crocker cake that is
like there's so many chemicalsin it it's insane
SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
and yours would probably taste better than the
store-bought one
SPEAKER_02 (14:54):
thousand percent and just a side note i i saw
something on Instagram.
Again, I'm going to warn people,take it with a grain of salt
because it was on Instagram.
But I heard that Texas passed alaw that they gave companies one
year to get certain food dyesout and certain ingredients out,
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or else they're making them puta warning label on their food
saying not fit for humanconsumption.
So Like they're starting to putpressure on things.
And one of those things, one ofthe items that they was using as
an example was like BettyCracker's like strawberry cake.
And because if you ever look atthe ingredients and that stuff,
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it's terrible.
Like food colorings and it saysnatural flavors and that is.
That is so misleading.
Natural flavors, a company canput anything underneath there
and claim it under naturalflavors.
So also keep that in mind.
If you see natural flavors, Iwould put it down.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
Now, I'm going to just jump back to the carnivore
diet because right away I couldtell when I said that.
Some of you going, oh, my God,Greg, my cholesterol.
My fat, I'm going to begin.
Remember.
your body burns fat for energy,except when there's a ton of
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carbohydrates in the way.
If you have a ton ofcarbohydrates in you, your body
burns the carbs first, and thegood old body fat gets stored,
where if you didn't take in allthat processed carbohydrate,
your body would be thrilled togo for the fat and burn that as
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energy.
And you'd be amazed.
You'd start getting leaner.
And it would get you back inshape where you could fight this
cancer and beat it.
SPEAKER_02 (16:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of studies that showed that
switching over to a low-carbdiet or carnivore diet,
basically, showed a lot ofanti-cancer benefits and not
only that it also has helpedlike numerous autoimmune
diseases like gut issues allkinds of things you know people
improve tremendously on and i dojust want to point out when we
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say like carnivore or low carb iwould stay away from all these
like low carb bars or sauces oryou know that you're basically
just putting
SPEAKER_01 (17:22):
put the net carbs
SPEAKER_02 (17:24):
yeah they put net carbs on there and they it's
basically like a chemical bombis what it is because they're
trying to make it taste goodwithout you know any sweetness
or anything like they're puttingartificial sugar in it food
coloring all of that sodefinitely check the labels on
those things I have yet to comeacross one that doesn't isn't
filled with chemicals so I'dlove to hear if you know one
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does exist out there but I don'tthink so um But two, going off
that, like salad dressings.
There's like low-carb saladdressings, but really, again,
they have canola oil in them,they have chemicals, they have
food coloring in them, a bunchof other stuff where you can
easily make...
SPEAKER_01 (18:04):
And I'm gonna back you up.
What kind of oils should you beeating?
SPEAKER_02 (18:08):
You should be eating avocado oils...
Avocado, olive oil, macadamianut oil.
I'm trying to think of what's inmy cabinet right now.
Coconut oil is another one.
Stay away from canola or anyvegetable oil because it is so
processed.
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It's basically useless andnothing but inflammatory.
And again, they use...
SPEAKER_01 (18:34):
Could you explain what inflammatory means?
SPEAKER_02 (18:37):
Oh, so inflammatory basically means, like, it is a
swelling that it, like, so if Ipunched him in his arm, in my
dad's arm, his arm's going to beinflamed because I'm a good
puncher, and I'll leave a mark.
But basically, so, like, it'llcause inflammation of, like,
your gut lining big time.
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So your gut is, it's not a, justlike a long...
This is gross.
But, like, it's not just a longtube.
It's actually, like, sections oftubes, like, close together.
And so when you eat somethingthat inflames it, basically
they, like, swell up.
So now you have little openingsin between, which can lead to,
like, leaky gut, things likethat.
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And that, like...
So your body is made to attackanything that is not where it's
supposed to be.
So...
Your food is supposed to be inyour intestinal tube and not
outside of it.
Well, with leaky gut, if youhave holes in your gut lining
from eating crap, basically,little food particles can get
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through and then your bodystarts to attack it.
And that's where people see alot of bloating.
To
SPEAKER_01 (19:48):
interrupt you one second.
And if your body's fightingcancer, then now it's gotta
fight
SPEAKER_02 (19:56):
that also.
This
SPEAKER_01 (19:57):
is where you're running into problems.
SPEAKER_02 (20:01):
Absolutely, yes.
So you don't want to add anyextra fight to what your body
has to do.
So you're like, yeah, you justwant to keep it as simple, your
body in the most relaxed stateto where it can focus on what it
needs to focus on and kill allthose T-cells, or not T-cells,
that's what you need, kill allthose cancer cells.
SPEAKER_01 (20:23):
Now, with the carnivore diet, you know the
cholesterol thing, which we havementioned once before, there
really never was an issue until1979, where all of a sudden it
seemed like cholesterol took offlike crazy.
But you could look at thisdifferent research where they
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claim People that live thelongest have the highest
cholesterol.
People that don't get dementiaand Alzheimer's have high
cholesterol.
Now, coincidence maybe, all thischolesterol medicine, all this
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Alzheimer's and dementia all ofa sudden.
It's kind of funny how it justkind of showed up.
Not making any statements.
Just...
observing some things and onceagain if your body isn't living
off of sugar processedcarbohydrates it has to live off
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of your fat and this will onceagain make you healthy the
protein builds your body back upnot just your muscles but your
organs and everything else whichmakes you healthy again and able
to fight this disease off.
SPEAKER_02 (21:47):
Well, and another thing that I just thought of,
too, is when you said, you know,with cholesterol and how they
started to put sugar ineverything around, like, late
70s, 80s, causing all kinds ofobesity.
Also, like...
SPEAKER_01 (22:01):
Everything was fat-free.
SPEAKER_02 (22:03):
Yes, everything was fat-free because they took sugar
out of everything.
Or, I'm sorry, they took the fatout of everything and they put
sugar in it.
What they also did is, if youlook back...
Like in the 90s, I grew up, Iwas an 80s kid, so like late
80s, early 90s.
That's when a lot of thischemical stuff started
happening, like, really, reallybad.
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So, like, I remember, and itwas, of course, geared toward
kids.
So we had, like, purple ketchup.
We had green ketchup.
We had Go-Gurts.
We had Squeeze-Its.
I mean, we had everything thatwas...
Pop-Tarts.
Pop-Tarts.
And things were, like, everycolor of the rainbow, not to
mention all the cereals andstuff that we were fed.
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And, you know, nobody knew aboutall this stuff.
So, like, if you look back...
obesity and all these diseasesreally started to skyrocket
around the 80s.
They kind of started to trickle,and then it was like whoosh.
SPEAKER_01 (22:56):
And people were eating less
SPEAKER_02 (22:59):
fat.
Yes, and more chemicals.
And that's what happened.
So if you're trying to figureout, too, like, okay, who do I
trust?
Do I trust these people on theAlpha Male podcast?
Do I trust my doctors who aresaying this other thing?
I would encourage you to take astep back and go, okay, Back
before the 80s, everybody had,you know, like, people were
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eating, like, steak, red meat,chicken, fat.
Like, people were, you know,baking.
And, like, I think back to mygrandma.
She would eat, Grandma Marge,she would bake nonstop, eat all
of it, and not be, like,overweight at all.
And nowadays you don't see thatanymore.
SPEAKER_01 (23:39):
I'm going to interrupt you one sec.
How old is Grandma?
SPEAKER_02 (23:42):
99.
99.
SPEAKER_01 (23:44):
And a half.
SPEAKER_02 (23:45):
Yeah, and a half.
And, I mean, she bakedeverything.
She didn't, you know, it was asin to buy, store-bought
anything.
And you think back, like, youknow, 50s, 60s, 70s, And then
all of a sudden in the 80s, allthese changes were made, and now
we're the sickest we've everbeen.
Our life expectancy has actuallygone down as a country.
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Cancer's at, you know,skyrocketing rates.
And you've got to take a stepback and go, okay, wait a
second.
None of this stuff was aroundbefore all these changes, before
sugar replaced fat, before allthese chemicals, before, I mean,
also, I mean, there's otherthings that are going on too,
like EMFs and...
SPEAKER_01 (24:27):
I just want to interrupt you one second.
Yes, I had cancer.
They made a mistake and said Ihad it, but I really didn't.
When they radiated me, that'show I got cancer.
So I wasn't eating myhigh-protein, high-fat diet.
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Didn't give me cancer.
SPEAKER_02 (24:50):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (24:51):
Complements of the radiation machine.
SPEAKER_02 (24:53):
Yes, and they don't tell you that.
They act like there's no sideeffects whatsoever, and it's
just a safe, nice little thingyou have to do for eight weeks.
No biggie.
So, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
But anyway, with the diet, that's why we would
suggest trying that andadjusting your diet the best you
possibly can because...
You have to rebuild your body,whether you're going through
chemo, whether you're goingthrough radiation, or you're
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fighting it out on your own.
You must rebuild those cells.
And the only way we do that isfrom eating.
Now, I know some people go, Ican't eat.
Well, if you have a feedingtube, like I did, for...
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I don't know, it was six oreight weeks.
I put amino acids down there.
I got liquid vitamins.
I got protein powders.
I did all that where Icalculated how well my nutrients
were.
Omega-3 oils.
So olive oil.
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We did the whole nine yards.
And Heather even used to make mesmoothies.
We used to pour down my
SPEAKER_02 (26:16):
tube.
Yeah, I mean...
Having a feeding tube actually,I think, works in your benefit
during something like thisbecause you don't have to worry
about what it tastes like.
So we just cared about, youknow, like whatever would get
him to those numbers.
That's what we made.
SPEAKER_01 (26:30):
A lot of unique colors
SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
in there.
Yes.
And I mean, we tried doingground meat the one, you know, a
couple of times.
And unfortunately, we couldn'tget it ground enough because it
kept clogging the tubes.
UNKNOWN (26:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:40):
But you can get really, really creative on that.
So if you do find yourself witha feeding tube, don't feel like
you have to listen to them andonly use their canned drinks
that are usually filled withsugar and chemicals.
Get yourself...
SPEAKER_01 (26:59):
That's very high in carbohydrates.
SPEAKER_02 (27:02):
It's terrible.
One of your cans, I couldn'teven believe this.
So they gave you some crappy...
generic thing that that's, youknow, what they give everybody.
And you said, no, I need likethe healthy version.
And so they gave you the quoteunquote healthy version, which
was terrible.
Oh my God.
One can.
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And you had to drink eight ofthese a day in order to get the
calories that you needed.
Okay.
Eight.
Because that's when like Thiswas temporary because this is
when you were still fightingwith a doctor to allow you to
put...
Not the doctor, thenutritionist.
The nutritionist, which I willsay, I'm not saying that all
nutritionists that work inhospitals are bad, but I have
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yet to see a good one thatactually knows what they're
talking about.
I'm just throwing that outthere.
They're usually the worst atnutrition advice, but whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (27:54):
Well, because they follow that food pyramid, which
is upside down.
SPEAKER_02 (27:59):
Okay, so again, just to make this clear you had just
gotten on a surgery for throatcancer okay vocal cord cancer to
be more specific they wanted togive you the healthy version
that you would have to eat eightcans a day of that had 50 grams
of brown rice salads aka sugarokay do the math on that that is
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insane insane and thenutritionist like thought that
that was good And, oh, my God,it was just– it's unbelievable.
And that's what you're upagainst when you are, you know,
when you listen to thenutritionist at the hospital or
the doctor's recommendations.
Unfortunately, that's the kindof information that they're
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going to probably give you.
And
SPEAKER_01 (28:45):
we're not telling you not to listen to them.
SPEAKER_02 (28:48):
I personally would not.
SPEAKER_01 (28:49):
Take their information.
SPEAKER_02 (28:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (28:52):
And do your own research.
SPEAKER_02 (28:54):
Yes.
If it were me, I would never–Drink that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:57):
Well, we have some good doctors now, so that's why
I don't want to say don't trustany doctor.
SPEAKER_02 (29:04):
No, no, not any, but I would just say be prepared.
Because how the hospital systemworks is that's what
pharmaceutical rep got to thenutritionist and said, please
buy my product.
And that's why they do that.
It's not because, oh, what'sbest for you?
Nobody looked at you and askedyou Like, Greg, what is your
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goal?
What do you want?
Do you want to get back to 210?
Okay, this is what we're goingto do.
What really happens is, oh, youneed to eat and you have a
feeding tube?
Here's what our hospital has acontract with, and they just
give it to you.
And the fact that it had sugarin it is crazy.
Okay, so you really want tothink about this.
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And I get really pissed offabout this.
Okay, so that is there forpeople like you that had a
feeding tube, which means...
It doesn't matter what it tasteslike.
Why would you put that muchsugar in something?
That doesn't make sense.
SPEAKER_01 (30:01):
Well, it's cheap calories, and that's what they
were trying to get.
SPEAKER_02 (30:05):
But, like, that's nuts.
This is a hospital for someonewho is sick.
You shouldn't be going cheap.
That's why I get so pissed off.
And because people don't realizeit.
It doesn't come with a warning.
SPEAKER_01 (30:18):
That one friend of yours, she went to school.
and had leukemia.
SPEAKER_02 (30:22):
Oh yeah, he ended up, he struggled with putting
weight on and I mean granted hewas in remission but still, his
doctor, he went to his doctorand he told Matt to eat sugar
because that was the best way togain weight.
And when he told me that I waslike, are you freaking kidding
me?
And I just, I don't understand.
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What's
SPEAKER_01 (30:46):
sad is Matt's no longer
SPEAKER_02 (30:48):
with us.
Yes, unfortunately.
And He chose to listen to thedoctors and unfortunately it
didn't work out.
But it just, it infuriates mebecause so many people, we were
taught growing up the wrongthing about nutrition, total
wrong thing.
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
Upside down food pyramid.
SPEAKER_02 (31:08):
Yeah.
And then, so nobody learns howto eat.
And then when you go to thehospital, when you're, you know,
like you're fearful, you'revulnerable, you don't know what
to do.
The bad information continues.
And then they give you somethingthat has nothing to do with
benefiting you.
It has to do with a contract atthe hospital that some
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administrator decided to sign.
SPEAKER_01 (31:31):
And that's why when they tell you to do something,
always ask why.
SPEAKER_02 (31:35):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:36):
Not just because you're telling me why.
Why is that way better?
What about this way?
And that's what you need to beable to do.
Speak for yourself.
Because...
They don't always have your bestinterest.
I think like others said,sometimes.
I hate to say this, some placessell out to the highest bidder.
SPEAKER_02 (31:59):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (31:59):
And it's about money, and I realize it's a
business.
But I thought they swore thatthey were supposed to do us no
harm.
SPEAKER_02 (32:09):
Yeah, I don't think that they...
abide by that anymore.
SPEAKER_01 (32:12):
Well, I think we got a lot more to talk about on
this.
SPEAKER_02 (32:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
We're about running out of time.
SPEAKER_02 (32:18):
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I get so mad about it.
I get infuriated because I justthink people are masquerading
around as somebody that they'renot.
Oh,
SPEAKER_01 (32:29):
that's what they were taught.
And they didn't go outside thelines to look.
And that's a shame because justlike with me being in
education...
okay, you taught me how to doyour way, and then I learned
other ways, and then I did thebest way, not just the way you
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tried to shove down my throat.
SPEAKER_02 (32:52):
Yeah, I just think, I guess I wish that people that
worked in hospitals, especiallywith a sick, vulnerable
population, and especially when,like with something like cancer,
where, you know, the numbers areskyrocketing, that they would
maybe take a step back and kindof think, okay, what's going on?
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What's wrong?
And not just keep doing the sameterrible thing.
I guess that's really whatinfuriates me because especially
with that, if there's any jobthat you should be doing that
and taking the extra step, itshould be that.
And
SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
by the way, I don't know why that just popped in my
head because I remember Mom hadmentioned this.
Like a lot of ladies getmammograms.
And when they put the breastin...
SPEAKER_02 (33:41):
They like smoosh it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:43):
Right.
And I've had some reading andsome other people telling me
when they squish it, if you havethe start of a little tumor or
whatever, that's what breaks itup and gets it going in the
system.
that you shouldn't really havethat.
SPEAKER_02 (34:04):
You should have that.
Yeah, I can't remember what kindof test that is, but I think,
because Mom, I think, had itdone, where it's like a
full-body scan.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a thermogram.
Thank you, Mom.
It's a thermogram.
Where, yes, that's so muchbetter.
And one last thing.
This is what I'm going to say.
And this might be an unpopularopinion, but whatever.
I don't really care.
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So I just think that...
like with this cancer thing,they have marketed it so well.
It's like, again, this is like aconspiratorial thought.
They have marketed it so well,and they put out there like, you
know, you're a fighter, whichdon't get me wrong, you are.
But almost to a point, theyoverdo it so you can't question
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anything.
Like, for instance, like withyou, you didn't have cancer.
Nobody wants to hear, likeanybody that went through
radiation or chemo doesn't wantto hear that they might not have
had cancer.
So you can't question it.
So like, let's just say we neverfound out that you didn't have
cancer, but it never made senseto me.
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And you went through everything.
It's like, I can't approach youand say, I don't know if you
ever had cancer or not.
And that...
Or like with the mammogram,there's so many people that like
have breast cancer that youcan't, because they are told
that's what saved their life.
So you can't tell them thatmammograms are bad.
They get defensive.
SPEAKER_01 (35:27):
That's why I check mom every night.
SPEAKER_02 (35:29):
Yeah.
Gross.
Don't say that.
And, but do you know what Imean?
Like, am I making sense?
Like, I think that they, andwhether it's purpose or
accident, it's almost like youdevelop this, mentality that you
can't question anything becauseyou can't question those that
have fought cancer and beat itor fought cancer and did not you
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know win the battle and you justcan't question it and you just
keep going forward and doing theexact same thing it's almost
like anybody that goes to rockthe boat or say something
different or question like uhchemo i think is killing people
instead of actually helping themit's like don't say that that's
what saved my life and it's likebut did it like can we it's
almost like you cannot questionanything because it's offensive
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to people that went through it.
And
SPEAKER_01 (36:16):
one thing I will say, too, on chemo, and then we
better wrap this up.
The one place I went to down inMansfield, this is the one we
still thought I had it.
They had chemo that was specificto when they did that RGC test
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to...
to the chemo that would justattack those cancer, where
usually we found out chemo isjust a shotgun approach, where,
hey, we hope it kills cancer,but it might kill a few other
things also.
But, hey, I hope this helped youtoday.
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We've got more we'd like to talkto, and once again, if you have
any questions...
SPEAKER_02 (37:05):
Yeah, definitely email us at info at the alpha
male podcast dot com anddefinitely make sure to like,
share and subscribe.
And one last little tidbit, Iwill say I would not be saying
to question anything if what wewere doing was currently
working.
It just seems like we're notheaded in the right direction.
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And that's why I think it's soimportant to start questioning
things.
And because that's.
not to take anything away fromthose that went through
anything, but to make it betterfor those coming up that do have
it.
SPEAKER_01 (37:38):
Well, I'm amazed, Mom and I are, how many people
come up to us and tell us theyhave cancer and they know
somebody.
And it's like, holy schmoly.
SPEAKER_02 (37:50):
It's crazy.
Where is all this coming from?
And that's where I think we haveto start asking questions and
start wondering, like, you know,nobody knows what's causing all
this.
Is it actually being caused?
Is the diagnostics gettingwidened?
I mean, you know, and so nowwhat would have not been
considered cancer 10 years agois now considered cancer.
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And they're, you know, happy tosign you up for chemo and
radiation when you wouldn't havegotten it 10 years.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm just asking questions.
And I think people need to startasking questions.
And just because it was done inthe past.
And it doesn't take anythingaway from those people that did
go through it that way.
It's just, that's not the bestway.
SPEAKER_01 (38:32):
Well, that's what we're trying to get to.
Because if we could savesomebody, that's our whole
purpose on that.
Well, hey, thank you very muchfor joining us.
And I hope you
SPEAKER_02 (38:47):
tune in again.
UNKNOWN (38:51):
Yeah, we'll see you next time, guys.
Bye.
Bye.
Hi guys, and welcome to another episode of the Alpha
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Male Podcast.
I'm one of your hosts, HeatherKrause.
SPEAKER_01 (00:30):
awards and father greg kraus thanks for joining us
today today's
SPEAKER_02 (00:37):
topic so last week we talked about cancer and um
not a very fun subject butsomething that's very relevant
um and We actually got a ton ofquestions on, you know, because
we didn't really touch on dietlast week.
It was more like, you know,asking questions and what to
look for in a doctor.
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But we got a bunch of questionsfor how do you eat if you are
diagnosed or, you know, a lovedone's diagnosed, which diet does
play such a huge role whensomething like that happens.
I mean, you know, food ismedicine, so...
SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
Yeah, and I will say from going through it myself, it
is a scary thing because thedoctors make it sound like
they're God, and you've got tofollow exactly what they say.
And I think some of the doctorshave very, very good intentions,
(01:35):
and other doctors, it's a job,and they just follow.
Whatever they were taught.
And not that it's the latest andgreatest, but that's what they
know.
SPEAKER_02 (01:46):
Yeah, and it's also, like, not just to follow them,
but to follow them now.
So, like, there's definitely a,like, they put a lot of urgency
on their recommendations, forsure.
Like, increasing your fear.
SPEAKER_01 (01:59):
Right.
They don't give you a chance tostop and really go out and talk
to them.
maybe another medical place orsomeone else who has experienced
cancer because I know there'smany different types out there.
But it sure seems like a lot ofthings would help whatever type
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of cancer you have.
SPEAKER_02 (02:23):
And, you know, with diet recommendations, this goes
even if you do, you know, decideto do chemo, radiation, whatever
treatment you're, you know, Yes,just to interrupt you.
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In
SPEAKER_01 (02:52):
my situation, I lost 50 to 60 pounds of body weight
when I was going through it.
SPEAKER_02 (02:59):
Yeah, and it was like a month and a half, I think
it was.
So it was crazy.
It was definitely a...
Very fast, rapid weight loss.
But you put it back on just asfast.
And that's what we want to kindof hone in today is how do you
stay healthy and keep thatweight and keep good, healthy
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weight on that's going to helpyou get through whatever
treatment that you decide to do.
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
I know I got an argument with the nutritionist
at the hospital because theyhave some funky guidelines.
Because I was down 153 or 156pounds, whatever it was, that's
how they fed me.
And I'm like, I'm usually 210 to220.
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So you're not feeding mecorrectly.
And luckily my doctor, NMTAnderson, great guy, He said,
Greg, I'm going to write aprescription so you can do what
you need to do.
And I gained like 30 pounds backin like two and a half, three
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weeks.
And once again, it was weightthat I had had before.
SPEAKER_02 (04:16):
Well, it's crazy that you needed a prescription
by a doctor to eat the way youthought that you should eat.
Like, that's wild to me.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
Well, because the nutritionist controlled
everything at the hospital.
I
SPEAKER_02 (04:32):
know, but I'm saying, like, you should be able
to control that.
Like, what if the doctor saidno?
You know, like, I just thinkthat that whole thing's why.
I mean, we would have done it
SPEAKER_00 (04:40):
anyway.
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Yeah, I mean, we're just happy we got to do it the
easy way.
But it is, but so many peoplethat would, you know, that would
stop them.
I feel like they'd be afraid toask or push forward.
And
SPEAKER_01 (04:55):
one thing the doctors said, they were amazed
at how quickly I recovered andeverything else that normally
doesn't happen.
Well, I think a lot of it goesback to we were aggressive by
how we wanted to come back andbe normal again.
SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
Yes, and I definitely think that that
played a huge part in it.
Like, it was just, you know,we're going to come back.
We're not going to kind of, youknow, I don't know, wallow in
our losses, and we're just goingto hurry up and get all this
weight back on and just kind ofget back to normal, whereas I
think, again, a lot of peoplekind of take a step back.
(05:36):
They feel a little defeated, andI think the quicker that they
can put it back on, you know,all that muscle memory that they
have, it's going to come onquicker the quicker you kind of
try to put it back on.
SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
And once again, I exercised while I was doing
this.
I just didn't sit around with afeeding tube in.
In the beginning, I walked.
And they will tell you, MDAnderson, I set the record 86 or
88 laps, whatever it was, twodays after my surgery.
(06:08):
Now, once again, I'm not tellingyou to do that.
I'm telling you to get up andget moving and join the human
race again.
Because when I went around onthat floor and I looked in every
room, those people were justlaying there.
And I kept nodding to them tocome out and walk with me, and
some of them did, and they felta lot better.
SPEAKER_02 (06:32):
Yeah, movement is super important.
I mean, you worked out through,even when you were doing chemo,
and stuff and radiation, youwere lifted.
SPEAKER_01 (06:40):
After radiation, I would drink a protein drink, go
to the gym and train for anhour.
SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
Mm-hmm.
And don't forget, guys, too,like nutrition, like with
lifting.
Just like in the gym when you'rebreaking down your muscles and
your cells and you eat to repairthat, that's how it is with
radiation.
Your cells are getting blasted.
You need to make sure you'reeating to repair your body and
to nourish it.
SPEAKER_01 (07:07):
And now what rebuilds your body?
What nutrients?
SPEAKER_02 (07:13):
Protein, hands down.
SPEAKER_01 (07:15):
Which is made up of amino acids.
SPEAKER_02 (07:17):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
Which is what your body uses to rebuild itself.
I love broccoli, but broccolidon't build muscle.
SPEAKER_02 (07:26):
No.
And so what, like, Dad, I'll askyou even though I know what
you're going to say.
What diet would you, like, ifyou're talking about, too, like
with nutrients and macros, whatkind of diet would you
recommend, like generallyspeaking, if somebody was
diagnosed with cancer, like nomatter what kind of cancer, what
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would you tell them to do?
SPEAKER_01 (07:51):
I guess the first thing I would tell them to do is
to write down what they'reeating and send it to me.
And then, or you, because sinceyou do this with me, and we
would look at it, and I knowright off the get-go, the
donuts, the cookies, the candy,and I know you don't feel good,
(08:12):
you feel sorry for yourself, andthat's a comfort food.
Well...
That comfort food ain't helpingyou.
SPEAKER_02 (08:22):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (08:23):
Remember, sugar feeds cancer.
SPEAKER_02 (08:27):
Across the board.
That's how it is.
SPEAKER_01 (08:29):
And that's why we would knock down all those
simple carbohydrates with sugarbeing number one.
And I would eat more of it.
I know people don't like to hearthis, the carnivore diet.
UNKNOWN (08:46):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (08:46):
But I'll tell you what, it'll help keep your body
going.
It'll keep you strong to fightall this.
And it's important that yourbody repairs itself because of
everything you're going through.
And that was one thing I knowthe doc was amazed with myself,
(09:08):
how quick I bounce back andeverything else.
I mentioned this once before, hewas using me as an example.
He had to go to Sweden or...
SPEAKER_02 (09:19):
I think it was Amsterdam.
SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
Amsterdam, I'm sorry.
My brain cells aren't back yet.
But he was one of the guestspeakers that they picked six
from around the world.
And I was the subject that wedid a video for him to play over
there and what I did and what Ilook like and everything.
(09:40):
And not that I'm Superman,but...
I didn't sit back and listen tojust what they told me.
I asked, why?
Why do you want me to do that?
Why do you want me to eat that?
Why can't I eat this?
Why can't I do that?
And I think that's so importantthat you empower yourself and do
(10:03):
some reading and don't justlisten to the one doctor.
SPEAKER_02 (10:09):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (10:09):
Go out.
We went to many places.
SPEAKER_02 (10:13):
Well...
Also with that about don't justlisten to the doctor, like how
we said sugar feeds cancer,well, they will have a plate of
cookies waiting for you afteryou're done with radiation, like
as a reward.
Or like you had some of– one ofyour side effects from radiation
was a dry throat, and they toldhim the remedy is to suck on
lemon heads.
(10:33):
Well, lemon heads have sugar inthem.
And we even like– we were like,wait, what?
We're like– You want sugar-freeones, even though those have
chemicals in them.
But we were just curious wherethis person's head was at.
And they're like, no, no, no,no, regular ones.
We're like, the ones with sugar?
And you had throat cancer, whichmeans the sugar is going right
(10:55):
over where you have cancer.
Is this person out of theirmind?
SPEAKER_01 (10:58):
And
SPEAKER_02 (11:02):
sugar damages your cells anyway, like cancer or
not.
It damages cells.
And so if you're, especially ifyou're going through a chemo or
radiation where your cells aregetting damaged and cells that
shouldn't be damaged are gettingdamaged, the last thing you want
to do is put sugar, somethingdamaging, into your body.
(11:23):
So it doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_01 (11:25):
And I know a lot of you are addicted to having
something sweet.
One thing I know Heather and Ido with our clients, if it's
somebody just wanting to getback in shape, if they have
sugar with every meal, we havethem do sugar at every other
meal.
Run that for a week.
(11:45):
Then we do it for like once aday.
They can have one meal.
And then we eventually movedthem once every other day, every
three days, et cetera, until youare in control again.
What you got to realize is sugaris like a drug, like heroin.
SPEAKER_02 (12:04):
It is.
It's one of the most addictivesubstances on the planet.
And so obviously we want...
No sugar.
But when you're working with anaddict, you've got to sometimes
wean them off because theycan't.
They have really badwithdrawals.
They feel even more like crapafter what they're going
through.
So you kind of have to work withthem on this.
(12:26):
And so it's not terrible, likeyou said, to just slowly wean
them off, but to do it as fastas possible because it really
makes a difference.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
And you'll notice you'll start feeling
SPEAKER_02 (12:39):
better
SPEAKER_01 (12:40):
once you get away from that.
Now, we're not telling you neverhave sugar again.
I'm going to give you my ownsituation.
Once a week, and it's usuallySunday, my last meal of the day
or second last meal of the day,I'll have something that's
sweet, whether it's ice cream orwhatever.
(13:04):
But By the time I have that,it's the end of the day.
So I'm not getting all these madcravings because I'm getting
ready to go to bed shortly.
But if you start eating it earlyin the day,
SPEAKER_00 (13:20):
then
SPEAKER_01 (13:21):
those cravings sometimes come up and bite you
in the rear end.
So set yourself up for success.
And if you need more help withthat, feel free
SPEAKER_02 (13:34):
to contact us.
And, too, if you are one ofthose that are addicted to sugar
and you find yourself in thissituation, you got diagnosed
with cancer and you've got tostop and you've got to wean
yourself off, one thing I wouldrecommend is start those meals
that you are eating sugar,whether it's ice cream or candy,
(13:54):
whatever, try to get away fromhigh fructose corn syrup and try
to find something with likeideally like organic sugar or
like there's coconut sugar.
There's all different kinds thatare, you know, less processed.
Still, you know, Best scenariois no sugar, but at least you're
getting better options andyou're starting to get away from
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those chemicals and anythingthat causes an insane amount of
inflammation.
So I would start to do that.
Let's just say you can't give upyour ice cream.
Well, I would start looking foran ice cream that's more
natural.
Or even...
bake it something yourselfthat's actually like the best
thing is bake your your own cakeand not from like a duncan hines
(14:35):
box i'm talking from likescratch so you know what
ingredients you're putting inbecause that's going to be a lot
better than picking up some youknow betty crocker cake that is
like there's so many chemicalsin it it's insane
SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
and yours would probably taste better than the
store-bought one
SPEAKER_02 (14:54):
thousand percent and just a side note i i saw
something on Instagram.
Again, I'm going to warn people,take it with a grain of salt
because it was on Instagram.
But I heard that Texas passed alaw that they gave companies one
year to get certain food dyesout and certain ingredients out,
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or else they're making them puta warning label on their food
saying not fit for humanconsumption.
So Like they're starting to putpressure on things.
And one of those things, one ofthe items that they was using as
an example was like BettyCracker's like strawberry cake.
And because if you ever look atthe ingredients and that stuff,
(15:35):
it's terrible.
Like food colorings and it saysnatural flavors and that is.
That is so misleading.
Natural flavors, a company canput anything underneath there
and claim it under naturalflavors.
So also keep that in mind.
If you see natural flavors, Iwould put it down.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
Now, I'm going to just jump back to the carnivore
diet because right away I couldtell when I said that.
Some of you going, oh, my God,Greg, my cholesterol.
My fat, I'm going to begin.
Remember.
your body burns fat for energy,except when there's a ton of
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carbohydrates in the way.
If you have a ton ofcarbohydrates in you, your body
burns the carbs first, and thegood old body fat gets stored,
where if you didn't take in allthat processed carbohydrate,
your body would be thrilled togo for the fat and burn that as
(16:39):
energy.
And you'd be amazed.
You'd start getting leaner.
And it would get you back inshape where you could fight this
cancer and beat it.
SPEAKER_02 (16:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of studies that showed that
switching over to a low-carbdiet or carnivore diet,
basically, showed a lot ofanti-cancer benefits and not
only that it also has helpedlike numerous autoimmune
diseases like gut issues allkinds of things you know people
improve tremendously on and i dojust want to point out when we
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say like carnivore or low carb iwould stay away from all these
like low carb bars or sauces oryou know that you're basically
just putting
SPEAKER_01 (17:22):
put the net carbs
SPEAKER_02 (17:24):
yeah they put net carbs on there and they it's
basically like a chemical bombis what it is because they're
trying to make it taste goodwithout you know any sweetness
or anything like they're puttingartificial sugar in it food
coloring all of that sodefinitely check the labels on
those things I have yet to comeacross one that doesn't isn't
filled with chemicals so I'dlove to hear if you know one
(17:45):
does exist out there but I don'tthink so um But two, going off
that, like salad dressings.
There's like low-carb saladdressings, but really, again,
they have canola oil in them,they have chemicals, they have
food coloring in them, a bunchof other stuff where you can
easily make...
SPEAKER_01 (18:04):
And I'm gonna back you up.
What kind of oils should you beeating?
SPEAKER_02 (18:08):
You should be eating avocado oils...
Avocado, olive oil, macadamianut oil.
I'm trying to think of what's inmy cabinet right now.
Coconut oil is another one.
Stay away from canola or anyvegetable oil because it is so
processed.
(18:28):
It's basically useless andnothing but inflammatory.
And again, they use...
SPEAKER_01 (18:34):
Could you explain what inflammatory means?
SPEAKER_02 (18:37):
Oh, so inflammatory basically means, like, it is a
swelling that it, like, so if Ipunched him in his arm, in my
dad's arm, his arm's going to beinflamed because I'm a good
puncher, and I'll leave a mark.
But basically, so, like, it'llcause inflammation of, like,
your gut lining big time.
(18:57):
So your gut is, it's not a, justlike a long...
This is gross.
But, like, it's not just a longtube.
It's actually, like, sections oftubes, like, close together.
And so when you eat somethingthat inflames it, basically
they, like, swell up.
So now you have little openingsin between, which can lead to,
like, leaky gut, things likethat.
(19:19):
And that, like...
So your body is made to attackanything that is not where it's
supposed to be.
So...
Your food is supposed to be inyour intestinal tube and not
outside of it.
Well, with leaky gut, if youhave holes in your gut lining
from eating crap, basically,little food particles can get
(19:42):
through and then your bodystarts to attack it.
And that's where people see alot of bloating.
To
SPEAKER_01 (19:48):
interrupt you one second.
And if your body's fightingcancer, then now it's gotta
fight
SPEAKER_02 (19:56):
that also.
This
SPEAKER_01 (19:57):
is where you're running into problems.
SPEAKER_02 (20:01):
Absolutely, yes.
So you don't want to add anyextra fight to what your body
has to do.
So you're like, yeah, you justwant to keep it as simple, your
body in the most relaxed stateto where it can focus on what it
needs to focus on and kill allthose T-cells, or not T-cells,
that's what you need, kill allthose cancer cells.
SPEAKER_01 (20:23):
Now, with the carnivore diet, you know the
cholesterol thing, which we havementioned once before, there
really never was an issue until1979, where all of a sudden it
seemed like cholesterol took offlike crazy.
But you could look at thisdifferent research where they
(20:45):
claim People that live thelongest have the highest
cholesterol.
People that don't get dementiaand Alzheimer's have high
cholesterol.
Now, coincidence maybe, all thischolesterol medicine, all this
(21:06):
Alzheimer's and dementia all ofa sudden.
It's kind of funny how it justkind of showed up.
Not making any statements.
Just...
observing some things and onceagain if your body isn't living
off of sugar processedcarbohydrates it has to live off
(21:28):
of your fat and this will onceagain make you healthy the
protein builds your body back upnot just your muscles but your
organs and everything else whichmakes you healthy again and able
to fight this disease off.
SPEAKER_02 (21:47):
Well, and another thing that I just thought of,
too, is when you said, you know,with cholesterol and how they
started to put sugar ineverything around, like, late
70s, 80s, causing all kinds ofobesity.
Also, like...
SPEAKER_01 (22:01):
Everything was fat-free.
SPEAKER_02 (22:03):
Yes, everything was fat-free because they took sugar
out of everything.
Or, I'm sorry, they took the fatout of everything and they put
sugar in it.
What they also did is, if youlook back...
Like in the 90s, I grew up, Iwas an 80s kid, so like late
80s, early 90s.
That's when a lot of thischemical stuff started
happening, like, really, reallybad.
(22:23):
So, like, I remember, and itwas, of course, geared toward
kids.
So we had, like, purple ketchup.
We had green ketchup.
We had Go-Gurts.
We had Squeeze-Its.
I mean, we had everything thatwas...
Pop-Tarts.
Pop-Tarts.
And things were, like, everycolor of the rainbow, not to
mention all the cereals andstuff that we were fed.
(22:43):
And, you know, nobody knew aboutall this stuff.
So, like, if you look back...
obesity and all these diseasesreally started to skyrocket
around the 80s.
They kind of started to trickle,and then it was like whoosh.
SPEAKER_01 (22:56):
And people were eating less
SPEAKER_02 (22:59):
fat.
Yes, and more chemicals.
And that's what happened.
So if you're trying to figureout, too, like, okay, who do I
trust?
Do I trust these people on theAlpha Male podcast?
Do I trust my doctors who aresaying this other thing?
I would encourage you to take astep back and go, okay, Back
before the 80s, everybody had,you know, like, people were
(23:20):
eating, like, steak, red meat,chicken, fat.
Like, people were, you know,baking.
And, like, I think back to mygrandma.
She would eat, Grandma Marge,she would bake nonstop, eat all
of it, and not be, like,overweight at all.
And nowadays you don't see thatanymore.
SPEAKER_01 (23:39):
I'm going to interrupt you one sec.
How old is Grandma?
SPEAKER_02 (23:42):
99.
99.
SPEAKER_01 (23:44):
And a half.
SPEAKER_02 (23:45):
Yeah, and a half.
And, I mean, she bakedeverything.
She didn't, you know, it was asin to buy, store-bought
anything.
And you think back, like, youknow, 50s, 60s, 70s, And then
all of a sudden in the 80s, allthese changes were made, and now
we're the sickest we've everbeen.
Our life expectancy has actuallygone down as a country.
(24:07):
Cancer's at, you know,skyrocketing rates.
And you've got to take a stepback and go, okay, wait a
second.
None of this stuff was aroundbefore all these changes, before
sugar replaced fat, before allthese chemicals, before, I mean,
also, I mean, there's otherthings that are going on too,
like EMFs and...
SPEAKER_01 (24:27):
I just want to interrupt you one second.
Yes, I had cancer.
They made a mistake and said Ihad it, but I really didn't.
When they radiated me, that'show I got cancer.
So I wasn't eating myhigh-protein, high-fat diet.
(24:49):
Didn't give me cancer.
SPEAKER_02 (24:50):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (24:51):
Complements of the radiation machine.
SPEAKER_02 (24:53):
Yes, and they don't tell you that.
They act like there's no sideeffects whatsoever, and it's
just a safe, nice little thingyou have to do for eight weeks.
No biggie.
So, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
But anyway, with the diet, that's why we would
suggest trying that andadjusting your diet the best you
possibly can because...
You have to rebuild your body,whether you're going through
chemo, whether you're goingthrough radiation, or you're
(25:28):
fighting it out on your own.
You must rebuild those cells.
And the only way we do that isfrom eating.
Now, I know some people go, Ican't eat.
Well, if you have a feedingtube, like I did, for...
(25:49):
I don't know, it was six oreight weeks.
I put amino acids down there.
I got liquid vitamins.
I got protein powders.
I did all that where Icalculated how well my nutrients
were.
Omega-3 oils.
So olive oil.
(26:10):
We did the whole nine yards.
And Heather even used to make mesmoothies.
We used to pour down my
SPEAKER_02 (26:16):
tube.
Yeah, I mean...
Having a feeding tube actually,I think, works in your benefit
during something like thisbecause you don't have to worry
about what it tastes like.
So we just cared about, youknow, like whatever would get
him to those numbers.
That's what we made.
SPEAKER_01 (26:30):
A lot of unique colors
SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
in there.
Yes.
And I mean, we tried doingground meat the one, you know, a
couple of times.
And unfortunately, we couldn'tget it ground enough because it
kept clogging the tubes.
UNKNOWN (26:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:40):
But you can get really, really creative on that.
So if you do find yourself witha feeding tube, don't feel like
you have to listen to them andonly use their canned drinks
that are usually filled withsugar and chemicals.
Get yourself...
SPEAKER_01 (26:59):
That's very high in carbohydrates.
SPEAKER_02 (27:02):
It's terrible.
One of your cans, I couldn'teven believe this.
So they gave you some crappy...
generic thing that that's, youknow, what they give everybody.
And you said, no, I need likethe healthy version.
And so they gave you the quoteunquote healthy version, which
was terrible.
Oh my God.
One can.
(27:23):
And you had to drink eight ofthese a day in order to get the
calories that you needed.
Okay.
Eight.
Because that's when like Thiswas temporary because this is
when you were still fightingwith a doctor to allow you to
put...
Not the doctor, thenutritionist.
The nutritionist, which I willsay, I'm not saying that all
nutritionists that work inhospitals are bad, but I have
(27:45):
yet to see a good one thatactually knows what they're
talking about.
I'm just throwing that outthere.
They're usually the worst atnutrition advice, but whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (27:54):
Well, because they follow that food pyramid, which
is upside down.
SPEAKER_02 (27:59):
Okay, so again, just to make this clear you had just
gotten on a surgery for throatcancer okay vocal cord cancer to
be more specific they wanted togive you the healthy version
that you would have to eat eightcans a day of that had 50 grams
of brown rice salads aka sugarokay do the math on that that is
(28:23):
insane insane and thenutritionist like thought that
that was good And, oh, my God,it was just– it's unbelievable.
And that's what you're upagainst when you are, you know,
when you listen to thenutritionist at the hospital or
the doctor's recommendations.
Unfortunately, that's the kindof information that they're
(28:44):
going to probably give you.
And
SPEAKER_01 (28:45):
we're not telling you not to listen to them.
SPEAKER_02 (28:48):
I personally would not.
SPEAKER_01 (28:49):
Take their information.
SPEAKER_02 (28:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (28:52):
And do your own research.
SPEAKER_02 (28:54):
Yes.
If it were me, I would never–Drink that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:57):
Well, we have some good doctors now, so that's why
I don't want to say don't trustany doctor.
SPEAKER_02 (29:04):
No, no, not any, but I would just say be prepared.
Because how the hospital systemworks is that's what
pharmaceutical rep got to thenutritionist and said, please
buy my product.
And that's why they do that.
It's not because, oh, what'sbest for you?
Nobody looked at you and askedyou Like, Greg, what is your
(29:26):
goal?
What do you want?
Do you want to get back to 210?
Okay, this is what we're goingto do.
What really happens is, oh, youneed to eat and you have a
feeding tube?
Here's what our hospital has acontract with, and they just
give it to you.
And the fact that it had sugarin it is crazy.
Okay, so you really want tothink about this.
(29:47):
And I get really pissed offabout this.
Okay, so that is there forpeople like you that had a
feeding tube, which means...
It doesn't matter what it tasteslike.
Why would you put that muchsugar in something?
That doesn't make sense.
SPEAKER_01 (30:01):
Well, it's cheap calories, and that's what they
were trying to get.
SPEAKER_02 (30:05):
But, like, that's nuts.
This is a hospital for someonewho is sick.
You shouldn't be going cheap.
That's why I get so pissed off.
And because people don't realizeit.
It doesn't come with a warning.
SPEAKER_01 (30:18):
That one friend of yours, she went to school.
and had leukemia.
SPEAKER_02 (30:22):
Oh yeah, he ended up, he struggled with putting
weight on and I mean granted hewas in remission but still, his
doctor, he went to his doctorand he told Matt to eat sugar
because that was the best way togain weight.
And when he told me that I waslike, are you freaking kidding
me?
And I just, I don't understand.
(30:45):
What's
SPEAKER_01 (30:46):
sad is Matt's no longer
SPEAKER_02 (30:48):
with us.
Yes, unfortunately.
And He chose to listen to thedoctors and unfortunately it
didn't work out.
But it just, it infuriates mebecause so many people, we were
taught growing up the wrongthing about nutrition, total
wrong thing.
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
Upside down food pyramid.
SPEAKER_02 (31:08):
Yeah.
And then, so nobody learns howto eat.
And then when you go to thehospital, when you're, you know,
like you're fearful, you'revulnerable, you don't know what
to do.
The bad information continues.
And then they give you somethingthat has nothing to do with
benefiting you.
It has to do with a contract atthe hospital that some
(31:29):
administrator decided to sign.
SPEAKER_01 (31:31):
And that's why when they tell you to do something,
always ask why.
SPEAKER_02 (31:35):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:36):
Not just because you're telling me why.
Why is that way better?
What about this way?
And that's what you need to beable to do.
Speak for yourself.
Because...
They don't always have your bestinterest.
I think like others said,sometimes.
I hate to say this, some placessell out to the highest bidder.
SPEAKER_02 (31:59):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (31:59):
And it's about money, and I realize it's a
business.
But I thought they swore thatthey were supposed to do us no
harm.
SPEAKER_02 (32:09):
Yeah, I don't think that they...
abide by that anymore.
SPEAKER_01 (32:12):
Well, I think we got a lot more to talk about on
this.
SPEAKER_02 (32:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
We're about running out of time.
SPEAKER_02 (32:18):
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I get so mad about it.
I get infuriated because I justthink people are masquerading
around as somebody that they'renot.
Oh,
SPEAKER_01 (32:29):
that's what they were taught.
And they didn't go outside thelines to look.
And that's a shame because justlike with me being in
education...
okay, you taught me how to doyour way, and then I learned
other ways, and then I did thebest way, not just the way you
(32:50):
tried to shove down my throat.
SPEAKER_02 (32:52):
Yeah, I just think, I guess I wish that people that
worked in hospitals, especiallywith a sick, vulnerable
population, and especially when,like with something like cancer,
where, you know, the numbers areskyrocketing, that they would
maybe take a step back and kindof think, okay, what's going on?
(33:12):
What's wrong?
And not just keep doing the sameterrible thing.
I guess that's really whatinfuriates me because especially
with that, if there's any jobthat you should be doing that
and taking the extra step, itshould be that.
And
SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
by the way, I don't know why that just popped in my
head because I remember Mom hadmentioned this.
Like a lot of ladies getmammograms.
And when they put the breastin...
SPEAKER_02 (33:41):
They like smoosh it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:43):
Right.
And I've had some reading andsome other people telling me
when they squish it, if you havethe start of a little tumor or
whatever, that's what breaks itup and gets it going in the
system.
that you shouldn't really havethat.
SPEAKER_02 (34:04):
You should have that.
Yeah, I can't remember what kindof test that is, but I think,
because Mom, I think, had itdone, where it's like a
full-body scan.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a thermogram.
Thank you, Mom.
It's a thermogram.
Where, yes, that's so muchbetter.
And one last thing.
This is what I'm going to say.
And this might be an unpopularopinion, but whatever.
I don't really care.
(34:25):
So I just think that...
like with this cancer thing,they have marketed it so well.
It's like, again, this is like aconspiratorial thought.
They have marketed it so well,and they put out there like, you
know, you're a fighter, whichdon't get me wrong, you are.
But almost to a point, theyoverdo it so you can't question
(34:47):
anything.
Like, for instance, like withyou, you didn't have cancer.
Nobody wants to hear, likeanybody that went through
radiation or chemo doesn't wantto hear that they might not have
had cancer.
So you can't question it.
So like, let's just say we neverfound out that you didn't have
cancer, but it never made senseto me.
(35:07):
And you went through everything.
It's like, I can't approach youand say, I don't know if you
ever had cancer or not.
And that...
Or like with the mammogram,there's so many people that like
have breast cancer that youcan't, because they are told
that's what saved their life.
So you can't tell them thatmammograms are bad.
They get defensive.
SPEAKER_01 (35:27):
That's why I check mom every night.
SPEAKER_02 (35:29):
Yeah.
Gross.
Don't say that.
And, but do you know what Imean?
Like, am I making sense?
Like, I think that they, andwhether it's purpose or
accident, it's almost like youdevelop this, mentality that you
can't question anything becauseyou can't question those that
have fought cancer and beat itor fought cancer and did not you
(35:50):
know win the battle and you justcan't question it and you just
keep going forward and doing theexact same thing it's almost
like anybody that goes to rockthe boat or say something
different or question like uhchemo i think is killing people
instead of actually helping themit's like don't say that that's
what saved my life and it's likebut did it like can we it's
almost like you cannot questionanything because it's offensive
(36:13):
to people that went through it.
And
SPEAKER_01 (36:16):
one thing I will say, too, on chemo, and then we
better wrap this up.
The one place I went to down inMansfield, this is the one we
still thought I had it.
They had chemo that was specificto when they did that RGC test
(36:38):
to...
to the chemo that would justattack those cancer, where
usually we found out chemo isjust a shotgun approach, where,
hey, we hope it kills cancer,but it might kill a few other
things also.
But, hey, I hope this helped youtoday.
(36:59):
We've got more we'd like to talkto, and once again, if you have
any questions...
SPEAKER_02 (37:05):
Yeah, definitely email us at info at the alpha
male podcast dot com anddefinitely make sure to like,
share and subscribe.
And one last little tidbit, Iwill say I would not be saying
to question anything if what wewere doing was currently
working.
It just seems like we're notheaded in the right direction.
(37:26):
And that's why I think it's soimportant to start questioning
things.
And because that's.
not to take anything away fromthose that went through
anything, but to make it betterfor those coming up that do have
it.
SPEAKER_01 (37:38):
Well, I'm amazed, Mom and I are, how many people
come up to us and tell us theyhave cancer and they know
somebody.
And it's like, holy schmoly.
SPEAKER_02 (37:50):
It's crazy.
Where is all this coming from?
And that's where I think we haveto start asking questions and
start wondering, like, you know,nobody knows what's causing all
this.
Is it actually being caused?
Is the diagnostics gettingwidened?
I mean, you know, and so nowwhat would have not been
considered cancer 10 years agois now considered cancer.
(38:11):
And they're, you know, happy tosign you up for chemo and
radiation when you wouldn't havegotten it 10 years.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm just asking questions.
And I think people need to startasking questions.
And just because it was done inthe past.
And it doesn't take anythingaway from those people that did
go through it that way.
It's just, that's not the bestway.
SPEAKER_01 (38:32):
Well, that's what we're trying to get to.
Because if we could savesomebody, that's our whole
purpose on that.
Well, hey, thank you very muchfor joining us.
And I hope you
SPEAKER_02 (38:47):
tune in again.
UNKNOWN (38:51):
Yeah, we'll see you next time, guys.
Bye.
Bye.
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