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Money is important.
But money is not everything.
I know it's weird starting offthe podcast episode that way,
but I say that to say, Thisepisode is dropping in the
middle of summer.
And what is also just asimportant as money is your
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piece.
And your joy in work.
And so I am coming to you inthis episode.
To talk about.
The combination of creatingboundaries and creating joy in
your work.
I probably talk a little bitmore about boundaries, just to
kind of help you to really wrapyour head around.
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What we can and can't do.
It's an episode of permission ofthinking about things a little
bit differently.
And then just analyzing our M Idoing these things.
That helped to prevent me fromhaving joy in the work that I
do.
Or do I just really not likewhat I do.
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And I might need to move on tosomething else, but I can't see
the forest for the trees.
So that's what we're going totalk about on today.
Bonnie Meadows MSN, APRN, A (01:16):
Are
you feeling stuck in your
current clinical environment?
Do you want to make a change inyour nursing career but not sure
what to do next?
Exhausted, burnt out, and maybeeven ready for different
leadership?
I'm Bonnie Meadows, a BoardCertified Nurse.
Clinical Nurse Specialist,Influential Leader, Career
Coach, and Well Being Coach.
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Being in the nursing andhealthcare profession since
2004, I have felt stuck andunsure about what was next for
me.
I wanted to be fulfilled in mypurpose, to have a voice at the
table.
And to be a resource for others,I kept telling myself I wanted
more, but didn't have thedirection I needed until I found
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clarity and career growthstrategies for experienced
nurses like me.
In this podcast, you will find.
Simple tactical steps that allowyou to gain the clarity you
need, solutions for how to groweven without supportive
leadership, and guidelines forsetting boundaries at work so
that you can grow purposefullyin your career as a nurse with a
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graduate degree who makes a hugeimpact in the profession.
So get ready to trade yourscrubs for yoga pants.
Pop in those earbuds and let'schat.
Art's a one.
Tell me that boundaries.
Provide flexibility.
Which is very true.
And many nurses have told methat what they desire most in
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their work and in their careeras they progress.
Is more flexibility, moreautonomy.
As we grow in our careers.
We either are getting into.
More things, or we have familiesthat are growing.
And we want to be able to stilldo career and do other things on
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top of that.
But not be all consuming by wordbecause you can only go.
That fast, but for so long, Andmany times when you're that deep
in you can't see the forest fromthe trees and you look up and
you're five years in and you'relike, oh God, what did I do?
All of this time you've beendoing the work.
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But then you feel like you're ona hamster wheel.
I just want to.
Help you to reflect.
On, are you on the hamster wheeland what are some possible ways
to get off of that hamsterwheel?
This episode is more so focusedon AMA on the hamster wheel.
And is that why I don't haveclarity?
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Is that why I don't have joy inmy work.
And then what are some smallways that I can.
Shift my mind to get off of thehamster wheel.
Once you understand what you'resaying?
Yes.
To, and what you're saying no toyou could then go deeper in the
area where you want to grow.
But you can't be everywhere anddoing everything.
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And nothing matches up.
So just.
Think on that.
I was doing a coaching.
With.
A nurse a few months ago.
And it was a quick free coachingsession.
You'd be amazed at what we canget through.
Talk through.
During those sessions, but inthat particular session, She was
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toying, which many of us, thisis what we do.
We're toying with the idea ofone, like, we know we want to do
something different.
We have gotten the vision of.
What we want our life to looklike, but we're trying to figure
out what we can do to help it,match up.
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She had some goals they werepersonal goals and career goals,
but what she was currentlydoing, wasn't matching up with
where she wanted to go.
That particular conversation,she talked about a few roles she
was interested in.
One of the things I like to doin a coaching session is to get
an idea of what you might beinterested in.
Then dig a little bit deeper onwhy you're interested in that
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particular thing.
Help you understand what comeswith it.
What might be required maybe tothink about some things you may
not have thought about before.
That would either push you inthat direction to, take the leap
or.
Help you reevaluate.
Maybe that's not the directionyou really want to go.
And then we could just figureout another direction that might
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be a better fit.
So within this particularconversation, I gave her some
ideas on things that she canpossibly do.
And she had like one or twoareas that she wanted to do.
And then, both required somesort of certification or either
another degree in some area.
I think both of them.
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Required just more so anothercertification.
And so.
We talked about those things.
I hung up.
That was it.
And I checked on owner a month.
Now, one of the things that shewas struggling with was
boundaries.
With work because she wasn't,she was overwhelmed at work.
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Not being able to get thingsdone in a timely manner.
Not because of her.
It's just, this is what we do.
In nursing, and this is justkind of how the setting is now.
To pretty much just be like weshould all leave nursing.
Y'all know.
I love me some nurses.
And I love the work of nursing,but we've got to do a better job
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of setting boundaries, even withour patients.
Even with our patients.
We've got to do a better job ofspeaking up and saying, Hey,
this doesn't work and bring asolution with that.
So I digressed, let me comeback.
I checked in on our month later.
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And she said, well, I ended uplosing my job.
My daughter overheard ourconversation.
I have a family member who worksfor a particular area I ended up
getting a job in that particulararea.
And they paid for mycertification, that particular
specialty that she was wantingto pursue.
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The one thing she said thatreally got me, she said, if I
never had that conversation withyou, I would not have had the
opportunity that I had, but Icould not see.
I was so.
I was so focused in and so underme, What I was in that I just
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didn't even have the strength.
The, just the, the desire to dowhat I needed to do to get from,
get out from under.
I was.
And so I want more of us to beproactive versus reactive in our
careers.
We're reactive when we've gottento the point where we're
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frustrated.
We're bitter.
We come to work may add.
All for the sake of the patientor because we just don't know
what else we going to do next.
That's when we're reactive withour careers.
Now sometimes we have to be,cause we're in a situation.
I mean, I've probably actedreactively in my career.
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Maybe once or twice, but itstill yielded.
Well, for me, I was still verycalculated in.
My decisions, but.
Almost, I feel like.
My career life was probably likemy dating life.
Like I was very proactive.
Like if there was a guy I didn'tlike.
I was looking for some signs andI was out quickly.
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And me and my best friend joke.
And we say, oh, well, you mightcan get me good for a good year.
But after that, If I see somesigns that this ain't working
out, I'm out.
Now.
I'm now married.
Got a good man.
So thank God for that.
But, I am.
I want you to be proactive.
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In your career and it doesn'tnecessarily mean proactive
jumping from one job to anotherand always to another.
But it's proactive in.
Making sure that you're in aplace where you can grow.
Making sure that you see signsof growth and your leadership
working towards.
Some space of growing andhelping you to grow and setting
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an atmosphere where you cangrow.
Only you have the best interestat heart for you.
Only you can speak up foryourself only, you know, what
your heart desire is.
Only, you know, what you likeand what you don't like.
And not that we are alwaysguaranteed to do things that we.
Like at work.
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But you don't want to get into aplace again.
Where you are bitter frustrated,trying to figure your you've
got, you've got a stirring.
And you're ignoring thestirring.
Although you still like thepeople that you work with.
And you still pretty much enjoythe work that you do, but you're
now you're, you're drifting.
Like you fill a pool somewhereelse.
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I want to just kind of walkthrough some reasons why.
We don't.
Listen.
And we are reactive for someother reasons.
We tell ourselves there's no oneelse to do the work.
So we've been doing this workfor wow.
You know, we've taken theseprojects on, or, um, and, and
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this is in particular for thenurse with a master's degree or
the doctorate degree, or youare.
Working as a nurse at thebedside, and you're very much
embedded into all of the things.
You might be an assistant nursemanager, you might be an or
clinical supervisor, you mightbe involved in a lot of
projects.
And you may have a master'sdegree, but still at the
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bedside.
And you're just trying to figureout you're taking on these other
things, hoping for a promotionBut you're not finding joy at
work.
We've probably taken on too muchand we tell ourselves there's no
one else to do the work.
So, I guess I'll just do it.
I'm just, I'm frustrated, butI'm still doing all this work
cause there's no one else to dothe work.
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There's no one else to do thework and truth be told you don't
have the capacity to do the workeither.
But you've not said anything.
Because you don't want anyone tothink That you can't do the
work.
You just don't have the capacityto do the work.
You don't want to let anyonedown.
And when you say, oh, I don'twant to let anyone down.
You're letting yourself down.
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So you might not be letting themdown, but now you're letting
yourself down.
And you are now frustrated,stressed.
Snapping at family.
All of that.
Because you've taken on all ofthis and you've not CIT.
Boundaries.
And honestly like this tricklesdown.
Because you've been given thework that somebody else doesn't
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even have the capacity to do.
I just want you to recognizethese things and understand the
constraints in which we work.
And even if you decide to staywhere you are, Let's figure out
some ways to make the best ofit.
Let's figure out some ways to dosomething a little bit
differently.
And again, we don't want tosound like we can't do the work.
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So we don't ask for help.
But then we end up stressed andsnapping at people.
When we give ourselves theseexcuses, we don't have the
compassion for ourselves.
Compassion presence and recoveryare three elements.
That I've been taught.
in my training.
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For being a wellbeing coach.
So I am a wellbeing coach andthose are the three elements
that we talk about.
And I got my coaching from, awell-known coach, Ms.
Diane SIG, who has her ownwellbeing coaching program.
Boundaries under the umbrella ofcompassion and having compassion
on yourself and speaking.
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Positively to yourself andunderstanding your realities in
which you are actually livingand uncovering that, which is
unrealistic in which you doevery day, whether it be at home
or whether it be at work, theyaffect one another.
That is that compassion that youneed to have on yourself in
order to lift that burden and tohave a little bit more joy in
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your life.
And to see things just a littlebit differently.
When we don't have thatcompassion for ourselves, we
tend to blame ourselves for thework.
When in actuality, it's just notpossible.
We make ourselves think thatit's possible, but it's not,
it's really not.
And that's why you don't havejoy in work.
And this year, summer.
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You need to find a way to havesome joy at work.
Need to find a way.
I'm just here to make it evidentto you and known to you so that
you can start to reflect.
On better ways to have joy atwork.
Things have possibly slowed downit's summer.
More people are off this, that,and the other.
So this is your time to reallytake a little bit of a step back
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and really think about.
What is it that's causing me tonot have joy at work.
Here's why we need to set someboundaries.
So that we can clearly see whatwe like, what we don't like
about the work that we do.
So that we can see ways to makethe work.
We do better, especially if welike the word, like I want you
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to stay in it.
Make yourself.
Known.
In that area, make yourself thesubject matter expert.
We must set boundaries so thatwe can clearly see ways to
remove our ego.
From the process and engageothers.
Ooh.
Is your ego at play and that'swhy you're overwhelmed.
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Oh, I'm the only one that can dothe work.
I'm like, my name is attached tothis.
I understand ego.
I'm not pointing fingers cause Ihave, I've had an ego and it has
been broken down.
It has been broken down, not byothers.
But God has literally placed mein a position to where it is.
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This is like the.
It's not that serious.
And I have been able to make aname for myself by just doing
the work, being engaged.
And letting it go.
Not dropping a ball.
But just pretty much saying howcan we make this process better?
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Even if I'm not the one at thetable.
That knows the work in depth.
I know how to move the chesspieces around.
And so how do we remove our egofrom the process and engage
others so that we can get morejoy at work?
So that.
We can build support around usbecause other people want to get
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in on network.
And so that we can create asystem, a succession plan,
because you don't want to bedoing that same thing forever.
Lastly, we must set boundariesso that we can clearly see and
know when it's time to holdthem.
Fold them.
And walk away to our next.
We can't be so tightly bound tosomething.
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That were afraid to just pass iton to someone else.
And then we stay there longerthan we should.
And then people are looking atyou and looking around, like,
when is she leaving?
Cause she's holding us up.
He's holding us up from makingprogress in this thing.
Don't stay somewhere longer thanyou should holding up someone
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else from being able to have anopportunity in that space.
But then you're holding yourselfup.
From being able to haveopportunity in another space
where you have a bigger voice atthe table.
You're shoeing that, causeyou're looking at this things
that you've been holding on to.
Set those boundaries.
So that, you know, when to holdthem.
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When the fold them.
And when to walk away to yournext.
If you need help with thoseboundaries.
You know where to find me.
I have one-on-one coaching thatis available.
Feel free.
To sign up for some time.
And we can walk through waysthat you can set brown
boundaries within your work.
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Because I've been there.
I've been overwhelmed.
I've had to set boundaries.
I've had to figure out like,what is absolutely.
At that, I'd what I need to doversus.
Like, I don't really need to dothis.
And present it in a way.
To where you're not, you'resaying no.
But you're saying no.
And providing options at thesame time.
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So I hope that you take thisepisode really reflect on how do
you create more joy at work bysetting boundaries and not
getting bitter with it, there'sa way to do it.
There's a way to say no, that isappropriate.
There's a way to shift.
Responsibility.
That's hard for me because whenthere just lots of great things
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going on.
I want to raise my hand foreverything.
Oh, I'll do that.
I do that.
And then I find myself in a notso great position.
And not enjoying the space thatI'm in because I'm doing too
many things.
I just don't want anyone tothink.
That they have to stay wherethey are and they have to be
miserable.
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See you next time.
I hope you enjoyed today'sepisode.
If so, would you take 30 secondsand share it with another nurse
who may be unsure of where to gonext in their career or maybe
need some career clarity?
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It brings me so much joy and somuch encouragement to know this
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podcast is helping you.
Now go get the career you wantand not the one you settle for.
And I'll meet you back here nextThursday for another episode.
See you soon!