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Manimal might be the most famous (or infamous) of the shows the Aquaboys have watched so far.  Its celebrity status as terrible TV seems built on a couple giant ideas that were executed hilariously bad.   Maybe the producers thought the killer effects would carry the show?  Did bubble forehead, felt cat paw, and tamed cobras impress the Aquaboys enough to renew this legendary train wreck?   Listen and find out for yourself.  
Manimal is an American superhero television series created by Glen A. Larson and Donald R. Boyle, it ran on NBC from September 30 to December 17, 1983. The show centers on the character Jonathan Chase (Simon MacCorkindale), a shape-shifting man who can turn himself into any animal he chooses. He uses this ability to help the police solve crimes.
The series ended after a brief eight episode run, but has since become a minor cult classic.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following program is rated TV MA LSV and contains
strong language sexualsituations, violence and nudity.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It is intended only for mature audiences.
Viewer discretion advised.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Previously on the Aquaboy podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Big paint is a big, big paint.
How big of an industry is that.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
And so we brought this up today because I'm taking
a stand and I don't care whohears it, but big paint needs to
go down.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
I think we need to cut this.
We really need to cut this,because I'm you guys don't know
what big paint can do.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'll bleep big paint.
How about that Just so?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
we're safe yeah just big.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Do you know how much global paint companies, how much
money they made in two from twothousand twenty two?
Wait are we are we back on thetrivia show?
Seven thousand billion.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
How many billions?
How many billions?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
How much it was sold in paint globally All right, I'm
going to guess first.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We do prices.
Right, we do prices.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Brian, you said prices Right.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Oh God.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm really sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
No, go backwards, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
And we're back.
What you for, he's Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
OK, so my bid, without going over my closest to
the retail price, without goingover, and you said it has to be
billions, it's in billions Ninehundred and ninety nine billion
dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
That's ridiculous, it's stupid.
Ok, without going over, let'ssee it was a little high.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I wait maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I'm just.
Why are?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
you Definitely why.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Jason, Jason, one billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's really low.
I'm going to go so.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Brian's at almost a trillion.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
I'm going to go one billion and one dollar.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Damn it, he got us again.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
It did not work.
I watched this show.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I know how it works, but it can't go over right.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Surprise Could we have created?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
a wider birth.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Between one and infinity.
For him to win.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Chad won.
The answer is two hundred andthirty point twenty two billion.
He was only two hundred andtwenty nine billion, with the
other overshot a little.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Ah, yes, you, my friend.
I found the Aquaboy podcast.
Thank you, intrepid Listener,for discovering our little show.
I really appreciate the timeyou put in suffering through yet
another episode of this, ofthis, the podcast of podcast, as

(03:16):
it's known amongst her podcastprofessionals.
Sure, my name is Brian Millerand the Aquaboy podcast is the
podcast where we watch showsfrom the 80s and 90s that, for
whatever reason, only lasted oneseason and we try to determine
if those powerful televisionexecutives were absolutely right

(03:38):
or totally wrong.
So once again, thank you,intrepid Listener, for finding
our show.
We've got a super amazing showto talk about tonight.
But I'd be remiss if I didn'tintroduce my co-host for the
show.
The co-host, the perpetualthird wheel, mr Athletic Build
Little.
Are you done breathing or, okay, I was taking and cleansing

(04:04):
breath, sorry, okay.
The perpetual third wheel, mrAthletic Build little half pound
.
And the show apologist, my bestfriend, tony.
Tony, let me be the first towelcome you to the show.
Was that?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I thought that would be a lot enough to do Now we
don't have any hearing.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Thank you for the show Also offering color
commentary throughout part-time.
Amateur costume mascot theUnrushed Yornator, foot Fetish
Explorer, my Doe, my Ray and mysmartest aqua boy.
The smartest aqua boy at thetable, jason.
Jason, I want to be the secondto welcome you to the show.
How are you, my friend?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Welcome to the show.
Is Taylor the smartest aqua boynot at the table?
Yeah, who is the smartest onenot at the table?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know what?
It's either got to be Taylor orCorbett a friend Corbett.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Or my wife, maybe because she's way smarter than
me.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I'm not threatened at all by Corbett.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Taylor, the fact that you said that I'm gonna murder,
the fact that you said thatdefinitely sells it.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I'm not, no, you tried to murder him with your
car.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Who is this?
Oh my gosh, who is this?
Who is this?
I think I hear our juniorproduction specialist, executive
class, my fourth line ofsuccession friend, child projie,
speed skater, installment plan,virgin orgasm truther and the
most subtly attractiveparticipant prize friend on the
show, chad, welcome, I'm gonnabe the first to welcome you to

(05:27):
the show.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Thank you and Jason.
I will be the first to welcomeyou to the show.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
And I want to welcome me as well for you, welcoming
you, but I that is not true,because I was the first and the
second to welcome him to theshow.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I think that you were the second but we're
overlooking important parts.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Let history prove that.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Nobody acknowledged Tony.
No, that's fine.
Well, I already did, but youguys haven't.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
So that pretty much sets a precedent for the
remainder of the shows.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
What I have, no idea what you're talking about and
speaking of shows, guys, whenyou were, breathing.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Were you referencing the show that we're going to
talk about today?
Was that like a show, a nod tothe show, or was that just you?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
being you.
Well, it was a little bit ofboth, because I wrote down in my
notes like that breathingsounds like Tony masturbating.
Oh, wow, you mean.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, what's the show you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It's also weird that every time Tony masturbates,
somebody plays the drums behind.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, I've seen music .
Well, he hires me to do that.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, I was going to say.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
yeah, I was a guy, I'm not bad on the bongo and the
Jamaican barrel drum.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
It just gets really cozy in my little toilet room.
But traditional drums you'rereally bad at.
It's weird if you just can'tNow trap set.
Trap set I'm not good at.
Why is that?
It just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, it's part of my heritage.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I don't okay, it's how you know he's rich just
because he hires all of us to bethere whenever he jerks off.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
That's how you know he's rich, I've never seen you
there.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Where are you hiding?
Oh well, I'm behind the toilet.
How do you?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
squeeze.
Well it's because he doesn'tknow if Tony's going to shame
masturbate or not.
So if he does, then Chad there.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Tony, isn't all masturbation?
The shame masturbate.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
What masturbation is not shame?
Tell me of this thing.
So in the shower with the waterrunning, not shame.
But on the toilet right afteryou took a dump, Is that shame?

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Like front porch, not shame?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
You know, because, like you're, you're right.
He has no shame.
That is no, no, no.
If you did that you're doingthat.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
If you're doing that, then it's a, it's no shame.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
So front porch masturbating?
No shame.
Correct On the toilet after adump.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
lots of shame, Lots of shame.
You should feel during a dump.
More shame.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I've never tried that .
How's that?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
It's hard to time Because you dumped in like 30
seconds.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
What's that Two gone?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I'm a super fast, pooper, your, your asshole is so
huge that he just all likehonks right out.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's not a famous person.
Special correspondent Lanecoined the phrase it's not
shitting if you don't have towork at it.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
So when you just sit down and it falls out you guys
don't have that problem.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
It just fall.
You have to push, Don't beardown.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I don't bear down.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
My friend Chad taught me that Don't ever bear down.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, you should not do that.
That's how you get you know thethingies Hemorrhoids,
hemorrhoids, yeah, and I thinklike uh fissures.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Have you ever had a hemorrhoid and I?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
think.
I think also like uh, whathappens when it comes out like a
prolapsed anus?
Okay, you have to really beardown for that to happen.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, yeah, it happens, though.
Have you guys ever had ahemorrhoid, do you know?
Uh, yeah, I think I've had alittle one before.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I mean, is this a safe space?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, nobody's safe, yeah, nobody listens.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Definitely no.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I heard today that shame is a useless emotion and I
thought to myself I feel likefor the podcast it's a very
useful emotion.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
We just defined it right now it's clearly driving
in the listeners.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Well, you know, all it has creatives.
We just have to keep makingstuff and then eventually it'll
work out.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, with no marketing at all.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
The moment that the moment that the last Aquaboy
dies, then somehow we'll getdiscovered, that's right, we'll
be like Van Gogh We'll beretarded Van.
Gogh.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Oh, I do not think you can say Van Gogh oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
What did you say I?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
said your hair looks nice.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Oh, you did say that, speaking of Aquaboys dying, I
had this weird, this weird thinghappen to me today, where what
I'm going to do the I'm going todo the fun part second, I'm
going to do the sad part first,you motherfucker, and I'm going
to do the fun part second.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
So just before the just before the show started, we
had a discussion about ifsomebody likes to be a bad news
first or a good news first guy.
And I think, chad, you votedbad news first.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
No, no, no, jason, jason is Jason is bad news first
.
Okay, I'm bad news.
Second, because it's unlikelythat I will be able to hear the
good news as easily after I'veheard the bad news.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well then go ahead and give us a bad news.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
So well, we were talking about the, you know, the
last Aquaboy dying.
So a friend of mine.
I found out a friend of minedied this week and we love you,
chad.
So I found out, a friend ofmine died this week, but I found
out that he died in February.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh, so he's obviously very close.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
In no like like close .
Like like he lived on my streetgrowing up, like I used to
spend that in his house.
I would see him non-stop.
No, really close, like I'veknown him my whole life.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
But you've been out of touch recently.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Especially since he died.
Yeah, I think the last time Ithink.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think the last time I saw him was about a year ago.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
About a year ago was the last time I saw him, but
he's somebody that everybodyknows and I don't know why I'm
not hearing from him.
Oh God, so, so, thismotherfucker, this motherfucker
I find out, a buddy of mine isjust like hey.
Did you hear that he died?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
And I was like what?
And he's like yeah, he died.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
So we insinuating that we will die and the other
people won't know?
No, I'm insinuating If youdon't show up for the show.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
No, I am insinuating that, that you guys Jason's not
hearing it.
Guys, you guys are into thejoke.
So he died.
And then he made his brotherpromise to not tell anybody.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
What.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
He made his brother promise to not tell anybody that
he died.
So all of us I'm talking aboutlike the entire theater
community has known this guyforever and he's very well
respected and we all literallyfound out the same day that he
died, but all found out that hedied in February.

(11:41):
So like, literally all of usare having this grieving process
, even though he died inFebruary.
And I just thought, yeah, he'splaying the long game.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
That seems like something the Aquaboys would do,
but yeah, that seems processthat.
So how?
How did you?

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I'm sorry, we laughed all the way through your grief
just now, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I knew it was a safe space.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I knew it was a safe space, so we could have made fun
of that.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
So how did he?
Know, he was going to die.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Oh, yeah, yeah he knew he was going to die.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
So he was terminal, he had a real mess.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
So evidently he well, he smoked like a chimney
forever, like he had lung cancerthat came on really fast and
was just like like it wasbasically the end and there you
go, oh man and that's all fine,and that felt like I don't know.
But like he was.
He was one of these guys wholike his nickname when I was
when I was a kid growing up,because he's older than me His

(12:35):
nickname was Ogre.
Like because he was a reallylike scary dude, but for me I
always just knew he was so scarybecause he was always mad that
he was the smartest person inthe room.
So he was always mad ateverybody.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
But was he the guy that isn't but thinks he is?

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Oh no, he was he was the smartest person in the room
and this is getting a littledark.
I was trying to tell a reallyfunny story.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
I think Chad liked it better when there was left
Jesus.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Christ, I'm really uncomfortable right now.
And you love that, yeah, so sohe was really.
He was really kind of a crazyperson, but eventually he had a
stroke one time and then afterthat he was really nice.
He was always really smart.
He got nicer after a stroke hegot nicer after a stroke, and
then that can fellow out offellow.

(13:19):
I think after his third divorce.
Then he got mad again and thenand COVID didn't do anybody in
the favor.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
This is the best eulogy I've ever had, and he put
a load of us here and he hismom on the front rows looking at
, looking at Chad that duringthe eulogy like hey, quit it hey
seriously you probably don'thave a personal shit.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
No, I literally had.
This time is up.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
She's got a times up sign.
There's neon and 30 seconds.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I feel like times up is wrong.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
She goes like this Times up is the wrong sign.
You're right.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, so I just, I just thought my funeral.
Can we please have a times upsign?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, our funerals are going to go on and on, because
what are we doing at our funeral?

Speaker 4 (14:07):
We're reading our text chain, but guess how many
listeners will have at ourfuneral.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm going to demand in my funeral that it takes
place at like the conventioncenter, because I had a time
when there is a conventionhappening like no matter what
show they have to wait fivemonths to have a funeral for you
, but they will do it.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, because he doesn't tell us, because he
doesn't want us to read the textchain.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
So he's like promise, you won't tell the aqua boys I
died.
But then eventually, when wefind out he died, then we're
like oh, now we're going to havethe funeral and we're going to
read the text chain, except it'sjust the three of us who show
up.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
You know how you'll find out that I died is because
I'll finally not be instantlyready to host a show.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Also, I love to imagine the idea that there's
one of us that has died and thethree other ones of us are like
in a room somewhere talking andgoing God, sad, sad, sad, yeah,
super sad, super sad.
Okay, but for real, though, arewe really going?
To do this, like I know, briansaid it, but like for real who's

(15:11):
gonna read?

Speaker 4 (15:12):
you know, a Chad had mental problems, right?
You know, you know, you know hesaid that over and over again.
He didn't really want us to doit right.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm not sure I can do that whole thing.
Chad does not like to read.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I'm not sure I can say I'm not sure I can say
something as good as I saidbefore Will you cold read
Brian's eulogy oh my God, Istarted to feel way better about
my chat.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
I'll write it.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I'll write my eulogy, if you cold.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
read it?
Of course you will.
You'll fake your own death andwrite your eulogy to get me to
read it.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I mean, our text messages are far worse than this
podcast.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, how is that possible?
But you're very correct.
Crazy shit there.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
And all of the really racist stuff that you always
share with us, brian you know,you're just so much more open
there, I guess.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I just have.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
It's a forum where he can be open.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
I have more of a problem we're really proud of
you, Brian.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
You're a proud boy.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
You're a proud boy.
I feel like Tony's child pornis the thing that really bothers
me that I feel like having todescribe that.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
You should not be sharing that in attention.
He's not less than 1% there.
Tony is a pedophile, that'sright.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Thank you.
Tony is a pedophile.
There we go.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, believe it or not guys.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Believe it or not guys, we haven't even talked
about the show that we'retalking about.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Is that right what?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
show, but there is some controversy about the show.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Controversy or controversy Whatever you want to
say, I mean, I have a lot ofcontroversy about the show and I
feel like we should have reallydone that live on air, because
the listener needs to judge.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, which part Live on air?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
The part where you guys cheated and we were
supposed to go back and watchour last show, and then you're
like, no, we have to do it again.
And then it said again go backand watch your last show.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
No, that's not what happened.
No, we have to do it again.
Brian did Brian's choice firstand I didn't think that that was
right, so we have to listen.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Let me get the listener up to date and then you
can tell your story.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Don't cut me off.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Collusion there's collusion Is that we, the end of
last show we picked Gung Ho orthe wheel picked Gung Ho for us
correct.
Yes, gung Ho is not on theinternet.
Damn I have looked, except forthe movie.
I went everywhere.
I have looked.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
It is really starting to bother me.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I have been downloaded a file sharing system
yeah like a whole.
And it wasn't out there at all.
The movie is everywhere you canbuy the movie but the show,
except for that trailer that Isent the group text Right.
So Gung Ho off the table.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
So if any of our millions of listeners have
access to Gung Ho, yeah, theinternet needs it.
Please text us at aquaboyshowor aquaboytwittershow, I don't
know what it is.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
You can call the show , but nobody ever does.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Nobody ever does you know what, you know what.
Jason's wife continues to tellme.
She has a lot of thoughts andshe wants this call this morning
.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
She wants a call In our bedtime time she rolled over
.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Excuse me, wait back up, back up it was mid.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
It was time.
It was time, mid.
Let's just say mid.
What were you wearing?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Mid, just you would be walking your way, tell us
more about what time was it.
Was it bedtime, time I waswearing?
Full on pajamas like straightup like long underwear button to
the top and with a little hole,but the little caboose in the
back that you could unbutton.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
And that's part of the zone.
Please tell me there werebooties.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Oh, there are booties , so many booties.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
They're called footies, booties.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Don't fuck my footies , but anyway, she talked this
morning about making that phonecall and guess what she didn't
do?
She made the bubble, so she wasgoing to call the show she
talked about it all the timeshe's always saying I'm going to
call the show even though shedoesn't.
Well, you guys probably got,like in the middle of last week,
the text message from ourGoogle and we were responding
yes, Do you realize that we allsaid, we all responded, we were
like, yeah, we get it, but Ihave to do that every month

(18:57):
because they're threatening toshut us down, anyway.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
so so there was controversy, because, jason,
back to your story.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
What was my story?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Well, you were telling us about bedtime time.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
No.
Gung Ho was nowhere to be found, so Gung Ho was nowhere to be
found.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
So, Brian rolled again and he did this very
official rolling of the of thedie.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Much to my wife's chagrin.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
spinning of the wheel , much to your wife's chagrin.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Was that on FaceTime?
What was that?
He just took a video.
Oh yeah, he took a video ofhimself.
Your wife was your witness, andshe did not want to be here.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Well, here's what I'll say.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
There has never been a more impartial witness because
she hated Brian in that moment.
She's a very loving person andloves Brian, but in that moment
didn't love.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
She could have given two shits.
So he was, he was me, not thisshow.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Let me be very clear on that wheel and it was Brian's
choice that came up, whichBrian understandably, having
totally rigged the systembecause I'm fair.
Understood partial that wewould think he for sure rigged
the system as he did.
Yes.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
I don't even remember that part.
Ask him to ring it to do itagain.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
He spun it again and this time it was stick, with the
same show, which of course wewere not going to know, that's
what the thing told us to do.
No, the thing told us to doBrian's choice.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
If I knew that that came up to stick with the show,
Jason would have come over andset fire to my house.
And then, and then I would havequit the show, and not even for
insurance reasons like he didTony.
So it would have been just hate.
I hate burn.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I would have come over to the house while y'all
recorded and heckled you guys,while y'all were recording.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
But did you not think about how many more times we
would be able to record what?
No, I fucking hate you guys.
Why would that increase thepotential for?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
us for just his schedule no.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
I'm always saying that if there were only three of
us, it doesn't matter which onewe get rid of.
If we get rid of Tony, we coulddo it a lot too.
Tony's out of the country likehalf the year.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
It's my fault, so we're not there's been a slight
payroll malfunction and Tony isgetting all the money.
So we're I'm going to go andlook at that A Sheffield and I
are having a meeting.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Tony has a kid in college and somehow has more
money.
I don't understand how thatfactors in.
Like usually you hear frompeople and they're like, yeah, I
got a kid in college, I'm justkeeping it tight right now
Staycation this year, tony'slike actually we're doing three
trips to.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Europe.
In fact, we're going to go toEurope, turn around and come
home and cancel that trip andthen go back.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
My wife has to work from Europe because we don't
have enough time on vacation,but we're still going to take
the time.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
I'm watching a video right now.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
What are you?

Speaker 4 (21:41):
watching.
No, no, no, it did not sayBrian's choice.
First, the very first one saidgive the current show another
shot.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
No, it did.
Yes, you are, I am watching thevideo.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
No, no, no, this is collusion no, that's a website.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
That's a website.
No, no, no, no.
You know what we'll do.
We'll do?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
We'll take this video and post it to our Twitter
account.
Here we go, here we go.
Are we listening?
We're listening to a quickTwitter account.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
That's right.
Come on, Give current showanother try.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's the first roll right there and he's like Nope,
I just didn't, I just didn'twant to believe it, oh my.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
God.
So he's like oh, I'll do itagain, I'll do it again, this
will be fine.
And at that point I'm yellingat my screen like how dare you?
Here we go, here we go.
What does it say?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
All right, so so, Chad, I'm going to throw
something away.
All right, we voted in the lastshow right and we canceled the
last show, correct.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
We canceled, okay, correct.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
We did.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
We canceled it, and so the next show that was spun
on the wheel that we you and Iactually hold it in here.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, brought it in together, you and Tony, you and
Tony.
I was rubbing his feet.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Oh, that's well and I needed so we brought that in
here, we spun it, and what showcame up gung, ho, gung ho, gung
ho came up.
That is now the show.
So when when Brian ran the thewheel again, it was for gung ho
access gung ho.
This is why you're the smartesttwice that you have completely

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completely we couldn't do it, wecouldn't satisfy the wheel
blessed or the?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
where were you during the presidential election?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
you could have explained I could have made sure
trouble understood.
Yes, I don't think you couldhave made sure Trump his
followers would have absolutelynot listened to me, but I would
have tried well, they all listento us, so let's let's just keep
it we bring in the whitesupremacist I don't think we is
the right word.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know that's not fair well, you're proud of your
boys they're family, they'refamily, we get it very proud,
very proud.
So the show that we ended uplanding on was now was it Tony's
choice, or was it Manimal?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
straight-up, animal straight-up, manimal straight-up
.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
We just like 12 minutes on on how we got so if
you go to our Twitter account,eventually you'll see that I'm
going to post the trailer togung ho, but that is absolutely
the only thing I could find likepeople.
Yes sometimes, sometimes ourshows are so obscure people will
post their VHS tapes of whenthey recorded the show back in

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the 80s and 90s with thecommercials, everything I could
even find.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
I can find I did.
You know how my brain is.
Sometimes I get annoyed withthings.
When I can't, I'm like, no,this is should be, real, this
should be real.
And I get stuck, and I gotstuck several times on this
concept, mainly because of thecollusion that I didn't
understand.
But now that I understand Inever show spent that time and I
thought I'm gonna find gung honot out there mother fucker.
So now as the time listeners.

(24:40):
We know you're out there, weknow that, that the metrics that
come back to us just saythere's only two of you.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
But I am willing to bet there are more than we think
.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
So if you guys could go find it for us, there could
be a little taste in it for you,especially you overseas
listeners, all one of you like Ibet you, I bet you that was on
some sort of weird like cablechannel in the Middle East
that's a great ad nauseam for along time.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I don't even care if it's dubbed, I just like Tony
with a satellite dish.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yes, true, true so what we settled upon was Tony's
show from basically day one thathe wanted to watch what was
called Manimal so we watchedManimal, episode one which aired
originally September 30th 1983.
Manimal is the Americansuperhero television series

(25:31):
created by Glenn Larson, who isthe brains behind Battlestar
Galactica.
I mean, you name it, auto manyes and it ran on NBC for a very
short run, september 30ththrough December 17 1983, before
it was canceled.
Before his first season evenfinished, finished on the the
show centers on the character.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
I was gonna say Demetri Lischitz.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I was like I don't feel like now's the time I'm
supposed to say that who, nowthat I read this I'm kind of
clued in a little bit more tothe plot of the show a
shape-shifting man who can turnhimself into any animal he
chooses and he uses this abilityto help fight crime.
So I didn't realize it was anyanimal, because I'm the guy who

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got the last 10 minutes.
So the this was the seasonpremiere, which back in the day
usually meant that it wentlonger than normal.
So this episode was one hourand 10 minutes of pain.
So what I did is just went backto the one-minute marker so I
watched the last 10 minutes.
So I'll be excusing myselfmomentarily so that you guys can
to discuss the show.

(26:38):
So I'm gonna make, I'm gonnamake Jason the captain.
Now you can lead thatdiscussion when when we're ready
to to move.
Are you jealous?

Speaker 4 (26:46):
no, no, okay, speaking of those longer
episodes, I did write down.
After the basement scene, whichyou didn't see, I said holy
shit, it's the end of thebasement scene and there's still
20 fucking minutes left thebasement scene.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
That's intriguing.
Yeah, the basement scene waswrapping up.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
It felt like it was and now we've wrapped up the
show and I look up and I knowwhat the fuck one other thing I
want to point out real quick.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Nothing to do with minimal, but this is a milestone
show for us.
Tell me more.
This is our 40th episode boom.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
We only celebrate 43.
I think 43, you know, is moreall in our 40s 40.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I don't know what Jason is.
40 doesn't fucking matter.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
43 we'll just fuck that shit.
Yeah, no, I mean, episode 40 isa super important milestone for
everybody very, very importantfor everybody except Jason.
I mean, so let's celebrate.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I think we should.
What in celebration I didn'tget to tell you my happy thing.
Do you want to do that?
Well, what I thought we woulddo, before we start talking
about the show.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Are there any random thoughts that around the number
40, that is the most importantnumber we could possibly think
of?
What about 40?

Speaker 4 (27:58):
just go on, it's fine , I mean, I did have a I brought
.
I brought a piece of paper withme.
Oh my god, that is.
Did you do pre-production forthe show?
I just started coughing, I justgot nervous, oh my god he's so
nervous so I had your handsshaking so
much so I had.
So I had this.
I had this moment where I feellike maybe you don't quite

(28:24):
understand how interesting andintelligent some young people
are.
So I I mean, I know, tony knows, but but I had a friend who
texted me something that I justthought you guys could really
help explain.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
They were walking totally lost.
So I got this.
I'm nervous.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
I got this text message that was a picture, and
it was just a picture, and itwas a.
It was a picture of a notebookand and I made a copy of this
picture that I just thought Icould hand out to you to each of
you and evidently I was nottold who, I was not told whose
notebook this was, but what Iwas told is that this was the
notebook of one of the humansthat I was teaching, and I will

(29:05):
say that those humans are of thesame age as our children so it
says.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
At the top of the top of the pages says Chad Russell
Jung has thrown off my my hasthrown off my gaydar.
So so what are we're looking at?

Speaker 4 (29:22):
here is three columns , and the headers of each column
are straight, gay and unsure soone of my students evidently
made this list just about me andthen somehow, I don't know how
this, this co-worker of mine, Iguess maybe they were like
taking a picture over theirshoulder or something, but they

(29:44):
they wouldn't tell me who it was, but they were like I just have
to send you this because it'severything all right, so help me
understand.
So we're looking at threeseparate columns, one labeled
straight, gay and unsure andthese are the category, these
are the traits of each one ofthose that, whatever student
this was, seems to have observedabout me that make me I don't

(30:07):
think it's that complicatedusing Lee gay, straight or
unsure so this is somebody whomeets you for the first time and
is on no, they're one of no.
They know they hung out with.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
He's saying this is like two weeks straight, or this
person, who's male or female,we don't know or they then, but
like they are, they are justexperiencing Chad and saying
we're not positive because hisgay are my gaydar is gone crazy
right yes and giving reasons andlike a pro con kind of yes, it

(30:38):
was very much like this is,except that in the column is
them working?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
out.
They're trying to figure out.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
They have a name chart straight, gay or unsure
this is their personal.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
These are columns.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
If Chad is is one of those things.
Reasons, reasons why Chad isstraight.
So let me tell you about gaydarr kids.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
So gaydar I have no darr about anything, but gaydar
would be.
If you're typically, if youhave good gaydar, then you would
be able to tell if somebody wasgay now was that like the
little sparkle I feel insidewhen I see Tony no, no, I feel
like that's racism.
I feel like this race oh gosh,okay, that's strange okay, but
but the gaydar would be yourradar for for gayness and so

(31:22):
good.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I have to say to you real quick I am in love with
this list.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
First of all, this is , and I also fan past.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I cannot champion you for then sharing it with yeah,
this is about to be my, my, like, my my screen photo for my.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I wish I could frame it and like put it up behind me
while I'm teaching, but I don'tthink that would be appropriate.
The actual page out of thejournal no, it's, this is
literally a photo, because,because my friend didn't even
tell the person like the humanliterally didn't even know that
they is the person female ormale, or they don't?
Know, so I don't know okay, Iwill say that the the.

(32:02):
I was told that it wasdefinitely one of my students
and so this the main students Iwas working with I would say
we're born with female genitalia, but don't necessarily nobody,
nobody, nobody identifies thatway right now.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Okay.
So the headline, though, isthat this person female, male,
whatever that Chad Jung hasthrown off- their gaydar, so
they're they're writing this,saying they're unsure.
I met Chad, yes, and I thoughtthat I had finally tuned my
gaydar, but I met you and I'vethrown it off.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yes, yes, I not fucked it off, but and these
this would be, I would saythey're between the audience lip
between the ages of 11 and 15.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
So that, hold on, let's just cover FCC version.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
This is a 16 year old let's cover, let's cover
straight the category okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
This person has written down items in the
straight category yeah like anexcel spreadsheet.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
So these are the arguments that this person had
in his head about why their headabout being straight.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yes, yeah, I might be straight could Chad possibly be
straight?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
yes, so.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Chad has wife and kids.
That was the first one that'sright, all right, but there are
plenty of plenty of gay dudes.
But then but then Chad alsotalks about his wife that's
right.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's right.
I feel like plenty of you knowshe's best friend all the way,
we all agree.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Chad's clothing style .
I love that.
Chad has been called out bysomeone in that comment
presumably makes me feel likethe person is gay.
But I can't say that, but I'mjust saying that that that makes
me feel like a person that issaying to you like because
they're definitely straight,because I'm gay, and that kind

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of clothing is straight, likethey're basically saying a gay
person would never be caughtdead correct Chad, yes, yes,
which 99% of the time and youguys got to get my back here is
a t-shirt and a hoodie and jeans.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, that's pretty much my dad's sneakers if I'm,
if I'm usually, if I'm teaching.
It's a t-shirt, but I usuallyhave a button up on top of it
with sleeves rolled up oh, likeyou're like full button up, sure
, yeah but untucked button up,sleeves rolled up, that's like
dressing up.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
It's usually what I'm if I'm teaching what you were
to the office, okay, untuckedwith jeans and yeah, he always
wears a fedora.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Tony, tony, do you want to read the gay?
Section and high heels yes thisis a person's assertion that
Chad might be that, yes, thingsand I need to handle this
carefully.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
To Tony handle it carefully oh yeah, definitely
I'm very delicate, okay, okaywell, I have.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I don't really agree with all of these things, but
the number one in the gay columnis fluid movements uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Now what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (34:56):
like squishy the way he moves.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, I move I don't think you're squishy, or?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
fluid.
No, I don't think you'rethinking wrong yeah.
I feel like.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Jason knows you are not correct when I think you
just got your movement correct.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Chad is like when he's presenting, or talking, or
presenting in front of, yes, infront of his class, and people
like he's got kind of a fluid,need to hit a little fluid.
I could.
I could see that but also chat.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I just want you to let you know that whatever
normal is and we're not definingthat here because that's not
and we know it's not me, that'snot, and there's columns to
prove it on this list that whenI look at your movements and I
don't know what this is about mebut when I see your movements,
I think they're just movements.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I don't think they're fluid but you don't think that
they're manly movements.
You don't think that they'relike what's a man?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I don't think you're like you're not curling like 40
pound dumbbells when I talk toyou it's like you're just moving
right.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
I'm cleaning this carburetor.
I think, thanks for just seeingmy movements, for being mine
thanks you.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
My dough is moving to me next one we have is the way
he stands.
How does one stand straight orgay, but I think it's probably
part of the way he also youalways have one of your toes at
point.
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
That is true, that you have a shoe, you have a toe
at point all the time.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
I'll.
I'm pointing a toe at thismoment and you don't even
realize it if you look at myfoot off the ground right now
pointed down.
I am pointing crossing his legswith, like you know, and I know
what I mean the third one isdefinitely true facial
expressions or over expressive,which I didn't know, that was a

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gay thing and I literally justsaw my wrist and my hand move
and I went.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well, maybe, maybe I don't see any gay motion or like
this right well done.
Every time, he, every time youmove your foot into a toe point,
you do this all right.

(37:04):
Next they may get off.
That may set off some signs theway he talks.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I don't think you talk like you're gay.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean, you probably say things about a penis more
than any person I know not withstudents.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Not with students, though that I hope not, no, I
tell you that you know?

Speaker 2 (37:26):
do you guys remember number one fan Barry?
Like super fan, oh yeah so whenBarry was writing the earlier
he's a dear friend of mine andhe was giving us pointers on our
early shows based solely onyour voice yes never seen a
picture or anything.
Yes, he did ask.
Is Chad?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Chad, chad.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Chad is a circle is Chad.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Is Chad the gay one?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
yes, he did, and I said he's got a wife and kids.
He is himself.
Chad is Chad.
That's how his wife, kids.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
He talks about his wife and his clothing style
seemed like he's straight that'swhat he's.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's exactly where he said no, that's what I said
back to her.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Yeah but I will say next on the list is hand
movements.
You do, you do, talk with yourhands quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I yeah- Is that gay?

Speaker 3 (38:18):
His hand moves are a little swishy.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I know, I don't know, I think so, which is?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
all but see all everything in the gay column for
me feels like this is evidencethis person is like, either has
like very close Opinions aboutsomeone they know that is like,
or people they know that are gay, that they Specifically act a
certain way so they're they'rebalanced or they're biased by
that or maybe or they themselvesare gay, and then they also do

(38:43):
that and there's a that's asimilarity his hand has their
own like when he's stroking mypenis.
It's very gay.
Yeah, yeah, his hand movementsin with penis in hand are gay.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well, you know, I'm a slow reader and so it took me a
little while to read this.
And I remember saying to myfriend, right after they texted
it to me because they were, theywere in the same room with me
is?
I just leaned over and I said,oh my god, thank God.
When I was reading the gaycolumn, I was really worried.
At the bottom they were gonnatalk about making out with that
dude on the roof in New York,but they didn't.
They didn't say anything aboutthat.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
No, and I was, like you know.
In fact, the last one was Tony.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yes sense of humor, yeah which I also know you can
have a gay sense of humor.
Yeah, I don't.
I mean I all you can think ofis that I'm not.
I don't feel like I'm shyaround Men, I guess, like you
certainly are shy like you know.
I think, yeah, I'm not like,like you know, I'm you know, gay

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sense of humor is weird, Idon't know.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I don't know you drop a lot of like just straight-up,
shocking gay humor.
Well, that feels like it's avery personal.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
That again feels like a personal thing, where they're
like I'm gay and I feel likeI'm more crass or I'm more
sarcastic or I'm yeah, maybe Idon't know pointed and chat
similar to me, so that's a gaysense of humor.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Well then there's the third column, yes, which goes
which goes to a much sure much,much very.
Should I?
Should I professionally?

Speaker 4 (40:08):
yes, yes, yes because this is the column that is, I
guess, either side.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Do me a favor.
Just leave the the the last one.
Just change.
Just change the initials insome way for me okay, I just I
just glance down and I went ohyeah, that's probably a little
little much.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
So so the first one is ADHD.
Now, is this talking about whatthey think Chad is or about
themselves?
Okay so, adhd, autism, theatergeek.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yes, I see that at all.
I think they're said do the twoseparate things.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
But yeah, but you also don't see color.
There's all kinds of things youdon't see, brian, I know okay,
so my ADHD is off the charts Now.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I have noticed that trait about you occasionally.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yes, but have you noticed how I don't understand
jokes?
Have you noticed that thatthat's just some extent?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
but I don't think that falls into the spectrum, I
mean in terms of like thingsthat you do for executive
producer related to the show,that shit gets done Yesterday
like it gets done right away.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
So your attention is hyper focused on that.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
So maybe that is sort of backing into that ADHD trait
where we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Well, we won't.
We're gonna educate you, we'regonna.
Confuses me.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
So on this disobeyed a hyper fixation on the teeth in
theater tech, tech, tech.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
I also thought it said teeth at first.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Brian, Come on buddy but that says tech in theater.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Oh shit, it does say tech, so tech in theater.
So why would that?

Speaker 4 (41:40):
be, I don't know.
I guess the.
I guess they're trying to saythat that.
Is that a gay?
I guess because it's intheaters that gay, but then it's
tech, so it's not.
I don't really know.
Are you're just like superspecific?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
because you do like you go out yeah you get gone out
on like the lights and what.
I can do, and what a gobo cando, or whatever things and you
like.
Get really clear about that,which is super cool, which is
why you do things that's whatyou do at your

Speaker 2 (42:05):
passion.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Well, and he does things that are frankly
fantastic.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, he's an artist in that respect.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Yes, so, but I feel like he's an artist in a lot of
respects, but like that isthat's much more an ADHD
Spectrum thing then, to me thanan unsure about my sexuality.
But I don't, I don't know, Ijust think it's super
interesting.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I just I don't know.
And the last one is funny of no, it's funny AF.
Oh, yes, we're funny, sorry,sorry.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
That's.
The kids say AF because thatmeans.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I also agree with that.
I second Chad being funny.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
AF.
I would say that he's thefourth funniest person I've ever
met at this table.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
That's that is, that is better than fit.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Honestly say that Chad is one of the funniest
people I know and and from themoment that I met you like he
got the joke, I'm like our veryfirst meeting was at some sort
of weird fundraiser.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Oh, yes, we, yes, we did have a.
You know, we had a beer bet.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
We had a Whiskey bet, I'm sorry, a whiskey bet on
some sort of piece of I can'teven remember it was like some
auction item or whatever.
I didn't think that would gofor a certain amount.
Yeah you got the joke, weinstantly hit it off, and so you
have one of the best sense ofhumor.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
I know we had a good time and then the last.
I don't think it's gay I workwith children, which I also felt
like that was a strange thingto put in the column for unsure
because all dudes who work Withchildren are gay right.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Well, no, really like no okay, you're kind of a coach
.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Tell me, tell me about your coaching of young
people, tony.
So what?

Speaker 3 (43:37):
was the end not coax young people.
Oh, really, tell me about that.
Tell us about your grooming ofyoung people.
Yeah, let's switch out coachingfor grooming, and then I think
we got a real idea of what he'sdoing.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
So.
So what was the end result?
And I'll post this picture.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Please do this is not .
There's no result like.
That's what I I just.
Tell me.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
You're trying to tell me that you have not obsessed
about this picture.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
I thought it was a very.
I thought it was a very astutelike, like, look at myself from
somebody else's point of view.
I thought I thought it was.
I thought it was justfascinating, as Jason is
literally taking a photo just incase I don't want to lose it
just in case Chad does not sendthis to me, I'm taking a photo.
I will send it to you.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
I'll send it to you.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
You know, I just thought it was very interesting
to see how somebody was lookingat it, especially in a time when
I feel, like Of most the youngpeople that I I feel like I work
with, are very non interestedin in labeling Anything with
sexuality or gender or anythinglike that and I thought it was
super interesting that they'rewrestling with this Themselves.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
They're trying to work out you know, because you
very well might be gay, but youhave a family and I mean you
have clothing style thatreflects that.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
But I feel like my clothing style.
I feel like Sarah.
Sarah's always like trying toput me in in clothes, so I feel
like that maybe she's trying tomake me look Less gay.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
She's trying to say that word, she's like put
clothes on, I'm gonna dress youtoday, darrell, she's just like
yeah, no, that's, that's not,that's not gonna look good.
Well, chad, thank you forsharing that's a big, big, big
swing and I appreciate yoursharing Wow.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
I just, I just couldn't think of anything other
than so.
I guess my real question is socan you guys tell me if I'm gay
or straight?

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Now that, I'm gonna be honest, I'm in the unsure
candy.
That's fair, totally fair.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
It's a spectrum.
It's a spectrum cuz I'll behonest.
A couple more drinks I canprobably Mean yeah, I mean, I
mean really, all you really haveto do is compliment me enough
and then I'll just be like, well, I guess I'm gay now, I think.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
I think it's really good at you and then so, and
then make you self-deprecate.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I can say you gotta have the two factor.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
You gotta feel a little bit bad, and then also
good and I always feel a littlebit bad.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
But you should from this show mentally mentally, not
physically, I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
No, we want to punish you mentally.
It's not a good show unlessChad leaves horribly feeling
horribly about himself, butreally it's me who does it.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
It's I do it to myself.
The aqua boys don't do it right.
You guys are always super nicewe try, we try really hard.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Oh yeah, if you listen to this show, we're super
supportive, right everydecision You've ever won back to
the point when you startedtalking about your dad and Brian
played a laughing track.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
It was super weird to find out a dude was dead and
that nobody of all like.
There were tons and tons of uswho were all of a sudden texting
each other and we all found outliterally within the same span
of like 20 or 30 minutes, andyet at the exact same time he
had been dead since February.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
So on.
Just just to go back to thatpart, just so I understand the
off ramp here.
He was on his deathbed.
He knew he was going to die.
Yes and he pulled in hisbrother and said yes, wow yes,
and he said.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
And he said I don't want an obituary, I don't want a
memorial service.
No, and of course, now becausehe's done this, oh, we're gonna
do a fucking memorial servicefor him, just to fuck with him,
because he fucked with us.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
You're gonna get haunted.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Oh I, I got no problem with that.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Oh, you can have me on any once now he's.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
He's smart as fuck.
I don't have, I would feel justfine with him.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Do it Well, alright, P bro.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Ogre, that was a good one man.
Man, that was phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Thank you for putting yourself out there.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Oh yeah, I'll text you guys this photo.
I'll text you Um.
Alright, so anybody else have?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
anything they want to chat about anything not now, or
?

Speaker 3 (47:46):
yeah, I know the next episode.
Yeah, I'll save something fornext show.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
But don't do another fucking nothing.
No, next show is more importantthan our 40th show.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Right, that's true, 40 is very important 40 is the
most important, 41 is prettyimportant.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
No, fuck you, I Shut up you bitch Fucking a whole
other level.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
All right, so should be like 43 is the so should we
don't worry, you'll getcelebrated should we talk?

Speaker 2 (48:20):
about minimal.
Should we talk?
Yes?
Let's talk about it All right,so I was so minimal was a
premiere, so it was like an hourand 12 minute show.
So I decided I was the lastfive minutes, but I decided to
round up to an hour so I startedwatching the last 10 minutes
right, I got a lot.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
I.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Will say that I did get a lot of footage in 10
minutes.
But I have a ton of questions.
But what we're gonna do is I'mgonna go move myself to the
soundproof booth.
You guys are gonna talk, kindof give a quick overview of what
you saw and I'll come back andI'll give.
I'll try my best to figure outwhat the hell Happened in

(49:01):
minimal episode one calledManimal, which debuted September
30th of 1983.
So you guys ready to take theshow?
Jason, you're in charge.
Let's do this, all right.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Godbrock will continue in a moment and we're
back, all right.
So Brian is in the soundproofbooth boof, as he says, that's
right, and and so we get achance to kind of just talk
about the show before Brian wasback and discussed just a little
about what we Would justexperience in our lives.
First of all, I don't knowabout you guys, but this was

(49:32):
about 45 minutes too long.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Holy fuck it was.
It was good at moments, butthere was this thing of like
fuck, there was nothing else onTV, there was only like 10
channels for real and, of course, when there's only 10 channels,
you're like, well, no, I guesswe gotta like draw this shit out
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
I think this is also an example where they had it.
They had they got together witha few different people that had
some special skills and theywere like man, we've got some, a
couple of good name actors,we've got some great special
effects guys Of course, this isgreat in quotation marks because
actually they are great at thetime extremely well credited,
but I do.
I think it's a time there weresome they.

(50:10):
Well, I think that's the pointright, so they thought like we
have these people.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Yes, I do line up.
We have a solid lineup.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
This is easy and then it became a throw away like the
Cowboys every season.
Yeah, exactly, okay, so minimal.
Manimal is a show about a fromSeptember of 83 where a a Guess
the title of the show basicallycomes from a police officer that
can turn into any animal.
But he's not really a policeofficer, he's a consultant.

(50:39):
He's a consultant.
It's also professor.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
He's a what the.
I have so many questions aboutwhat the fuck is it?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Do they ever actually ?

Speaker 4 (50:45):
explain what he is, because at some point he shows
some sort of badge.
Yeah, and what the fuck didthat badge?

Speaker 3 (50:50):
say so?
I think he.
I think in general the episodekind of revolves around the idea
that there are there isn't akind of a criminal underground
ring of Transport, like they'rein.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
New York.
We're in New York.
It's a port, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
We're smuggling.
We're smuggling exactlysmuggling things.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Well, we don't exactly know, but the first few.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
There's a little weapon.
I took a picture.
I took a picture of the list.
I froze it and I took a pictureof the list.
So don't worry, when Brian'sback I will be reading you what
they are smuggling, that's verygood.
That's, that's really funny, Isaw that there's an a very
important list with checkmarksand everything.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yes, yes, thank you for taking picture that thing
got a smuggler ring happeningand some loatw.
It feels like local copsDiscover this, except that then
one of them turns out a female,turns out to feel like maybe
she's a detective.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
She is the smartest New York police officer, but
she's not a detective.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
She's just a Street cop.
Yes, it was the 80s.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Do you think maybe they just wouldn't allow her to
progress, that they were justlike sorry girls have to be on
the beat.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
They're very nebulous about what she, what she is, I
mean no, cop car just likepulling over people.
But then, as this episode goeson, is she a detective?
They don't really say they do.
They do try to pull yourheartstrings.
In the first scene there aresome criminals that are
transporting their smugglingweapons, and Is part of that.

(52:22):
One of the criminals start tofire, that then blows up this
truck that was full ofammunition and At the same time
shoots the cop that was holdinghim hostage or not hostage, but
holding him there at gunpointand it was her partner and that
was her partner.
Yeah, and that and so, then,that's the thing that's supposed
to fuel us the rest of theepisode.

(52:43):
Yeah, it fueled her yes andthen as we go forward in that
interaction, she sees a.
Is it a panther?
Am I correct?

Speaker 4 (52:56):
It's a panther, it's a black panther.
We have to talk about theanimals, but we have to talk
about them with with Brian,because we need to make sure he
says so there is a.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
There is a again manamal, that shows up in the
scene.
He's trying to also help takecare of.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Fighting the crime it is.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
for some reason she's not confused by the panther,
and now, now her nose has turnedup to a couple things.
She's looking for the smugglers, but she's also very curious
about this panther.
So, as time goes on and she'strying to solve these murders
and dress all these, thesecrimes, I'm looking for loose
panther.
Yes, she's looking for apanther or a person that works
with panthers, which she thenfinds out.

(53:34):
There is a professor at thelocal University who's a
consultant, who works withanimals, who help police
officers to fight crime.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
That's as much as she gets.
So many problems, so manyquestions so many problems you
know.
I do think we are gonna need toconsult with our Expert on the
topic and figure out, if we givehim a list of traits and
actions, if the Manimal is arapist as well.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
He now, that's not a bad point.
He's very rapey, he is a policescience department professor at
NYU and he specializes in theuse of animals and police work.
Yes, thank you for clarifyingfor us.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
So what the fuck was that badge that he showed people
at the beginning?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
It's what it literally, literally what it
said.
Yeah, it's like it goes aroundaround this car.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
He's like hey, here's my business card and do what I
say I didn't need that, you cancommandeer.
You can commandeer Taxicabswith a business card you can
commandeer people's cameras.
That was the nicest that wasthe nice.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Fucking hell potentially become a snake or a
shark.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Did he become a snake now?
I have so many questions aboutthe snake too.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Yeah, but then there are a lot of Innu windows to
also or not, any windows isstraight up fact where they get
into military and policeofficers, military's now like
corrupt, and there's.
There's a whole lot of likestoryline that's happening a lot
of side story.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
One episode we're talking about one episode like
the pilot, they weren't evenmaking her at that point.
There's no backstory.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
They replaced the main the main side story is
replaced in episode two spoileralert.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yes, oh yeah, yes we'll talk about that.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
It's uh, it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
They're trying to accomplish a lot in one episode.
I and and they try arebasically just trying to solve
this smuggling mystery and thisperson who is a A, a man that
can change the animals animal asyou can see it goes from animal
to animal to animal to animalto help solve yeah there's more
details, but I think we should.
We should kind of cover I thinkif they would have shortened his

(55:39):
transition times becausethere's probably good ten
minutes of this episode of himSwitching from animal to animal,
where you see him morphing andhe's breathing heavy and you see
the bubbly skin.
It was.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
It was at least ten minutes of that, I didn't get to
see one of the transitions.
I think I haven't talked toBrian about it because the only
transition they show Is himturning into the panther.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Yes, which he turns into like four or five different
animals, but he only shows theone which tells me they had the
ones Like special effect guy.
That then was like I don't know.
I got three other projects.
This is on the back and I got atheory on that gave them like a
panther special effect and waslike fuck it, use that.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
I don't know All right, let's get Brian in here.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Let's get him back in here and we'll talk about the
show.
Oh Brian.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Hello friends, back from the soundproof booth.
Gosh, it's nice in there man itis, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (56:29):
We have some ouches.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Thanks for putting out the chips.
Yeah, you're welcome.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
You're welcome, big bowl of chips, that's they have
actually been in there since thelast time we recorded.
Did you notice they were stale?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
No, I just I.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Shovels them in his mouth.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I don't even care.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I mean, which is why we love you, you love still chip
it's.
It's why we turn the lights outis so you can put as many chips
in your mouth and nobody cansee.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
They're super salty.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Hmm.
So, Brian, imagine that youonly watched a portion of this,
this incredible show of workthat we watched we watched.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Is it spoilers to ask ?
What was the overall opinionLike on a scale of one to ten?
What'd you guys?
We haven't talked about that.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
We haven't even gotten there, we figured we
wanted to hear your take.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I know we'resupposed to do is like even
though it's a complete waste oftime to find out what his.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I just, I just said I don't love it or I like it, but
I don't love it.
We'll give it.
He just asked you for a one toten and to those who've already
tuned out.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Thanks for joining us on the alcohol, golden palace,
golden palace, and ten beingfreaks and geeks.
Okay, where does this rank forall of you?
I want to know, before I jumpinto my uh, what I saw in the
last 11 minutes.
It's six for me.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Okay, I was gonna say six, okay.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
I'm five.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Wow, wait, uh what's between one and ten.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Is that five?

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah, that's five right.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
It's right in the middle, great, but it's five on
one side or the other of theequator.
Let's see one, two, three, four, five.
Yeah, it is, that's on thelower side six.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I'm five and a half.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
I can.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Okay, okay, he's five and a half so so it was an hour
and 11 minute episode, so Istarted.
I decided I would go back tothe top of the hour, so I have
the last 11 minutes and so Istart, yes, with a shot of the
twin towers.
So obviously they're attemptingto Honor the victims of 9 11.

(58:32):
This is 1983 and not lettingthe terrorist win.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
So that was cool.
I mean that, that, that over 20years Before 9 11.
Hey still, they did it.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
They did it right.
They knew they were honoringamerica, which I thought was
very powerful.
So, besides that, I show up ata some sort of dock slash
warehouse and lots of menWorking, moving around, what
seems like, and I I feel likethis is a key Well, it's 80 of

(59:03):
the show.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Is there they're on a dock and there are guys moving
boxes.
Okay, and checking things offof lists.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
But if you look at what's labeled on the boxes,
this says porcelain spas.
So, I feel like that theporcelain spas plays a huge
factor in.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
You're, you're, you're warm, very warm you know,
I didn't even notice that thatporcelain what?
I well, there was so many otherthings earlier in the show that
you was thinking about theporcelain spas.
So I have a list of things I'llsend you in just a moment.
Okay, well, porcelain spas.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Is obviously super important.
So then I.
Then I meet an older, what Iassume was like an older sex
worker, who pulls into thewarehouse in a fur coat and has
a thick russian accent.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Is it russian?

Speaker 3 (59:52):
She's her name is Karen jade.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I was just asking by Ursula Andrews, you think it's a
russian accent?

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Yeah for sure.
She was one of the bond girls.
She was bonkers, to give you ato give you some background.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Do we all think it's a russian accent and she's?

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
a clearly a sex worker right, where was she,
she's actually from Ukraine, orsomething like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
And she says something about the fact that
there and the dialogue I did notturn on subtitles, but there's
something about that.
She's about to make a hundredmillion dollars in porcelain
spas which, which is a lot ofmoney back then.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Then I see this is where things start to get a
little confusing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
So I see a black panther crawling around the
boxes and just watching thingsand, just by the way, this was a
real panther.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
They had real animal wranglers.
This was a real.
This was not CGI panther.
This was real.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
No, they were definitely real.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Then I see a line Well, there was a real panther,
the panther he saw at thatmoment was A real panther and it
would have been better if ithad just stayed a real panther
and we put peanut butter in hismouth.
It could have just talked.
That would have been way better.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
So I see, then I see a lion.
And so so now I'm like okay, sothere's more than one shape
shifter in this show which wouldbe awesome, which okay.
So then the sex worker meets awoman that's bound in gag, she's
tied up, she's not a sex worker.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
There's actually a sex worker and she's in a
different scene.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yes, she is.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
This one's not a sex worker, she's not yes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yes, this is the bond girl.
She struck me as a sex worker.
She's the bond girl.
So then they all let him finish.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Let him finish.
Okay, okay.
So then he wants to be a sexworker.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
It's a sex worker, so there's a gal that's there's a
gal that's bond and gagged.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
And she's not in gagged.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
She's bound and gagged officer brook mckinsey.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Oh yeah, well, it sounds like yes, and in a white.
In a white button up.
That's just slightly unbuttoned.
I didn't notice that I didnotice that she had nice babies.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
So they are all scared because they realized at
that moment that they'vekidnapped a cop.
And then I see a leopardrunning into the warehouse and a
gigantic tiger.
So so what I based on the allcats, all cats, right yeah?
so so then, so I did.

(01:02:12):
I did end up seeing likewhatever they consider trailer,
and I also watch the credits, soI do.
So I assume that it was aboutone man and all, but now it is
clearly a superhero team or somesort of group of shape shifters
, because there's so many cats,a bunch of pussies together.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Yeah, tons of pussy, like like the show, the secret
show that's on Marvel, show thatshow for pussies getting
together.
You know what that goes in thegame we would get more listeners
wait maybe

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
that goes in the street, just bad.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
No name of our show we did the same show and called
it for pussies together forpussies.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Talk about the Mavericks million listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Now this is yes, talk about the so so there is.
So this is when I noticed,about a couple minutes in, that
there is not very much dialoguein the show.
That does that run pervasive,lead to the whole thing?
Don't tell me, but I'm just.
I mean it basically is just socat footage, like there's a lot
of cat foot.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
There was a lot of animal.
The zoo was involved.
Yes, they, and they wanted toshow us all the animals they had
yeah, they did they.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Well, there was a lot of cat footage.
No, no dialogue.
But then I see there's a bunchof yet bad guys walking around
with who is he's, but they'renot saying anything.
They're just walking around thewarehouse.
I'm assuming they're just kindof standing guard right there,
just guards, and then the lionsand tigers.

(01:03:41):
Okay, this is where I wasconfused.
So they start to knock out theguards one at a time, but
they're not doing it with, withlike teeth and claws, they're
basically just kind of jumpingsort of in their general like
staring them and then they siton them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Yes, true.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I said they never really get touched.
They just kind of make noiseand jump over there non lethal
pussy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
When a man animal, when a man animal jumps out and
scares you, you pass out forhours.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
It's crazy multiple people pass out in this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I, that's where I'm going.
I said they don't even looklike they even get touched, but
they are past the fuck out.
Yes, yes it's just the whiff.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
So then guys guys, are you with me?
Oh, we're with.
So then nobody else is, butwe're with the black panther
attacks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
So the black panther attacks the sex worker by her
car and some of the henchmendecide to throw I guess Canada,
I was canisters of cat knockoutgas or I guess that's like they
just had him handy so I didn'tknow what it was.
But what it whatever does, itmakes Black Panther cat who I'm

(01:04:57):
assuming is the main cat,because that's feature a lot
with the paw hand and the clawscoming out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
that looks so good, you saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
So it makes me think that they knew that the cats
were attacking.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
They seem to have, like I feel like they got a deal
on fog hogs and so they neededto use like a smoker at some
point, almost like what youwould do like to a beehive, but
instead they were doing it tofull grown.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
The cat does stumble away it's fucking Puma and it's,
it's a panther or a panther, Idon't know.
There was like a million catsin a panther, okay, but it does
stumble away as if it looks likeit has been drugged and I did
ask myself did they actuallydrug the Puma?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
or the panther it was the 80s, so very likely that
these animals were just likethey drugged a female in the
show, but that's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Well, we have to get your opinion on some things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
So there is a lot of.
So the other cats apparentlysee this cat being drugged and
stumbling around and they screamthey're super upset but they
just leave.
Which is so weird, the othercats.
You would think they wouldattack to defend Black Panther.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
But they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
How many cats do?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
we see in the single frame.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
How many cats, I wonder do they all own?

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
We never see them all in one, only one in a time.
No weird.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
You can see the cuts whenever different animals are
walking so they wouldn'tactually fight in real life.
No, probably not, good to know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
And then as my first experience of the very fake
which I think was felt cat pawLike.
It looks like, felt like somesort of paw yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
It definitely looks like felt.
It is like if we took there wasno time spent on that prop,
like if we took like a paintstir stick and covered it and
felt and then like pushed outsome toothpicks, some white
toothpicks out of it.
I feel like that's the effectof the Puma.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
And that would be more realistic than what I saw
in this show.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Yes, and we have to also shake it a little bit,
shake it back and forth justpushing through flesh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
It's very misshapen too, but one thing that we do
see before the cats leave.
They do watch Black Panthertransform into man in full
clothing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
I think in full, like he's almost always in a tux or
tux, yes, he's almost always ina tux, and he does, he does turn
into.
So I had a lot of questionsabout that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
We also have a lot of questions so he is, so I would
assume that he would transforminto a fully tuxedoed Puma or
Panther.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
Well, yes, that's true, this is true, but that's
also problematic.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Do you think his clothes shrink with him?

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
I don't know.
I spent an unhealthy amount oftime trying to make this kind of
even out in my brain.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
I kept thinking the amount of unhealthy time is just
the hour and 11 minutes.
It was an unhealthy amount oftime.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
I kept thinking about this is the same year that the
thriller video came out and Ifeel like the thriller video.
They did bubble forehead a lotin that video.
Well, they had the.
You know he turns into thethriller guy, but then at the
end doesn't he turn into like acat, yeah, yeah.
And so I just kept thinking andI did a deep dive.
I tried to find somebody whoworked on both thriller and

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animal, but I could not findthat person.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Because this was the competition.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
But did it take that long through the rest of the
show Like his transformationtakes like a full minute?

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
There is a good ten minutes of nothing but
transformation footage from thisepisode At least four more of
those, so filler.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Oh my god, four of them.
You just hear the breathing ofTony jerking off over and over
and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
There's a lot of breathing.
So then they so the rest of thecat team runs away, and they
haven't bitten Claude or maimedanyone.
They just sat on them andstared at the bad guys.
Yes, and why aren't the badguys just absolutely screaming
to each other that they have afull grown ass tiger sitting on
their?
I mean, they're.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Or like use your oozy , yeah, shoot the god damn cat
that is.
There's so many questions there, but that is the theme in the
whole episode.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
A lot of questions.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
People see Panther.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
I mean, if I saw Panther right now.
We walked out your door, wewent out of the out of the out
of the out of the out of the outof the out of the out of the
out of the out of the out of theout boys studios Went down the
street Went down the street Parkand there was a panther, I'd be
like, oh fuck, we got to goyeah, right now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
The second it turns towards us.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Let's get in a car and let's at least call somebody
and then we'll watch thepanther until we find animal
services or the zoo or somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
But like that's a fucking panther, it will mall us
and everybody else seems to belike.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
And on the flip side, but they do pass out a wild
animal in this place.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
But I think it's a proximity thing, because then if
you open a door and there's apanther within 10 feet, then
your reaction is more like up.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
And you just pass out for hours, yeah you're like I
can't believe I saw a panther.
I'm fast.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
But I think it's a 10 to 12 feet thing, and if you're
a criminal.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Would you feel like if you saw this panther in your
warehouse looking at you?
Would you feel more threatenedby that or just by like a guy
with a gun?
I don't know, I wrestled withthat, but I think panther, yeah,
I would be, I would be super.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
So fucking wrong with you guys, I would be super
surprised, but then I wouldimmediately use machine gun in
my hand to make them go away.
So I'm standing next.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Well, let's not use me as an example, but so you
have standing weird, you'restanding with your toe pointed,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
And you have facial expressions that are over
expressive so you have yourfunny.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
But you're standing there but your fluid movements
are great.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
But you're standing there in point shoes.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
We all agree You're more scared of the person who's
going to.
You're less scared of theperson who's going to shoot at
you than you are of the pantherat the same distance.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Panthers are apparently a very lethal thing.
Well, they do.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
So people close to you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
They do nothing.
That's the part that was like,okay, we're going to get to that
, but I keep going.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
So, then.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
So they find transformed suit wearing guy.
Jonathan Chase who okay, so hisname is not Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
It's not Jesus Christ , he does have a lot of monogram
to Jaycee.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
I thought it was Jesus Christ.
Oh yeah, what monogram.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
did you see what would so later?

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Oh good, so, later, when they're in there in his own
personal spa his right, thenyes.
Is it his?

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
rape.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
It's his rape layer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I thought it was her porcelain spot.
Oh, no, oh because sportsporcelain spots.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Oh, they are very important.
Part of my position just saysit said plans foiled so easily.
And the next note is whatbathroom, spa, pool is this?

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Okay, I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
That's where you are, yes, so sothey find him transformed and
yet fully clothed, which I havethree question marks after that
and they decide not to kill himimmediately.
Like they they're they're fewthey decide they're going to tie
him to the cop that theyalready found inside what I'm

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assuming is a boat filled withporcelain spas.
So then, this is the first timethat I saw the transition.
So they're tied together andshe's they're back to back on
some sort of pole and she'stalking to him.
So she must be like the leaderof the, the team of

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transformation Tiger people.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
The word in the white shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Very close.
Well she's, well, it is pink.
Actually, I think it was pink,and a few Okay.
Well yeah, she's, but she'sbeautiful, Just not going to.
She's beautiful Beautiful Now,and so she's tied back to back.
And so so manimal, guy, puma orwhatever guy he is, starts to
transform again.
That's when I saw the fakeforehead face oh my God, the

(01:13:21):
fake bubble hand, and that mynote is exactly paw, oh my God.
Paul, oh my God.
So then manimal cuts the ropeswith their teeth and claws.
Bad guys comes in to check onthe captives and he passes out
immediately at the site of thepanther, yes, and she grabs this

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gun, which I felt like was agood call, and then suddenly it
transitions to we're in somesort of meeting room, I don't
know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
I was totally tuned out by now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
No, it's all.
Cargo ships have meeting roomswith stained glass windows that
panthers jump through.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Yes, I was super confused.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
I remember that for the opening.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
We are like a fellowship hall at church, but
they're talking about a newworld order, so I guess that
these are all like people fromlike that are part of big
porcelain spa or something.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I think it's big porcelain.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
How many porcelain products are sold, but they were
clearly and I use this termvery loosely for all the
terrorists that listen they wereaccented and clearly talking
about rising up from the ashesof whatever thing they were
about to destroy.
So they were new world orderpeople.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
It reminded me of the new top gun.
You know how, the new top gunthey don't actually ever define
who the enemy is.
Yeah, they're just kind offoreign ish.
Yeah, let's just say they.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
They probably bought a golfing tour, live golf, maybe
Something like that, oh, thelive golf people.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Ok, so the live golf people.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Greg Norman, I didn't get that.
I thought they were Turkish.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Now, he's sad, he was sad, he's just want to ask
about what her accent was whenyou had talked about this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
I thought they were.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Russian because it was like wait oh well Russian
and by the way, she's a sexworker.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
She's different.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
The only reason I say that's confusing is because
there is an actual sex worker ina previous scene you didn't see
.
But the important thing aboutthat sex worker is, in addition
to being a Bond girl, she wasalso in Playboy for which she
wait, the Russian girl or theactual sex worker?
The Russian girl.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
The Russian, she was the Bond girl Tony was actually
a Bond girl.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
Research along those lines, of course I did.
She was in Playboy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
You have the research readily available.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
I do not, and also.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Officer Brook McKenzie is also naked.
She doesn't look at this.
He doesn't look at this on thiscomputer.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
It is Wait, the Russian is a cop too.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
The the.
Oh the other girl that was tiedup she gets naked in magazines.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Oh, yes, yes, well, yeah, I yeah, but the movies are
in movies.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
God bless you for your research, Tony.
How quickly did it take?
They both were freakinggorgeous, by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Right, pretty quick, and anybody want to guess the
Bond girl?
Anybody want to?
Yeah, the Bond girl was not mything, but anybody want to guess
what she got paid to be inPlayboy the first time $100.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I'm going to say $999 billion.
It was more.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
It was more than anybody had been paid at the
time Typically.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Okay, I'm going to.
I'm going to guess again.
Hold on, what's the game?
I'm going to say $230,000.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
No, it was $15,000, which was like three times the
amount that pinups were normallypaid, because she was a Bond
girl and then we're talkingabout the Russian.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Yes, the Russian.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Okay, yes, and then, it like I would do $15,000 and
then eventually, evidently muchlater on.
I don't know when playboys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
This person, yes, yes , when playboys freaking
gorgeous 65th anniversary camearound.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
They wanted her to pose again and they they offered
her 65,000 and she turned itdown.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Yeah, but how old would?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
she have been at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Like 65 years later.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
How old was she in the show Like?

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
oldish 40 like yeah, she was, definitely she was.
She was in her 50s.
No, she wasn't, she would havebeen in her 40s.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
I vote no.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
I think she was a little older.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
Fuck you, are you talking?
Fuck you.
They did her no favors.
That's what I'll say.
The makeup and wardrobedepartment did her a hand, no
favors.
No, she had her feet.
Look like that blonde hair.
No, tony, come on, how old wasshe when they she film this?
No, no, the concept, the realdear.
What else did you see?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Okay okay, okay, move on.
I'll say here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
When do you think this show jumped the shark?
That's my question.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
All of it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Because I was thinking about that for a long
time.
But then, of course, I realizedwhat I'll tell you when at four
minutes and one hour and eightminutes.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
So the cops bust in on this meeting of the the new
world order and I think somesort of deal for spas and is
being made, and the BlackPanther jumps through a stained
glass window which I didn'tunderstand were on ships.
So I'm right there with you,tony.
I didn't know where he wascoming from.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
We're in the chaplain's room.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
It's the port hole.
It wasn't a port hole.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
It's a very expensive .

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I think you're saying that wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
He put a lot of images in a hole, all right, so.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
So this is where I got super confused because we're
in the meeting room that isalso the chapel and a port hole.
He jumps through the window.
They all immediately give up.
Like immediately or arrested.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Well, she also has a Mac 10 machine gun in her hands.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Okay, then they jump to the cops house and she's
enjoying some sort of and builtin indoor spa.
She's like a real fancy house.
It's JC's house.
Oh, god damn it, it's Jesus'shouse, mm hmm, oh house.
Ish, it's his layer.
I thought she lived in likesome sort of abandoned church.

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Doubles as a zoo.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
So my note of that point was why don't we?

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
embroider more things .

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
My Ashley would monogram the shit out of
everything I own if I gave herthat power.
Okay, so, so then, sexy, sack,music, sacks, music starts
playing and it, it.
This next scene is clearly likethe setup to a porn, like they
are their sexy time gettingready to happen, or it did
happen.
I don't know if I missedsomething.

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Is this are they alreadypartners.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Is this where he tells her like to drink this?

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
and you forget.
No, that was earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Okay, she says that was after the process.
I wasn't sure which sexy timethis was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
You see, Cosby sir, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Many times.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Oh, he is a creepy mother times this actor and he's
vaguely British, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
I think he's a faking .
No, he's vaguely.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
He's lit, he's literally British in real life.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
I think he is.
Yeah, nobody likes him, so sheso so.
So sexy time is about to breakout, or it already has.
She knows that he's secretly acat.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
But he's afraid that she's going to tell a secret,
correct.
And then she says somethingabout they haven't caught the
kernel yet, mm, hmm.
And then it cuts to some dudein a pool and a shark comes
after him.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
He's the kernel.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
And I can't compute that.
Oh, I mean, I don't even know Ashark, just appears like did it
come out of the drain, so doeshe have telepathy with other
animals.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
So he seems to be able to talk to some of them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
What's weird is I felt like you described 10
minutes of the episode right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
I actually feel like you described the whole episode.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
It's true all the way down to the list is such a long
episode that nothing nothingreally happens and everything
happens.
And how could nothing happen?

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Everything happens, it's all the same stuff they
just over and over and over andover and over and over and over
no but every time there is somuch stock zoo footage, I'm
sorry I'm going to cut you off.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Good, every, every time, he's using his powers.
He's using his power just tolisten and watch.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
He's observing, that's that's all he really does
, like he has good cat hearing.
Yeah, he's got cat, but he hasthat when he's a man.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
So why does he need to turn into the cat?
Because they, they also, theyalso.
Let's show him using the powersof the animals when he's a man.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Yeah, it's really weird.
He is Well, he just looks at sohis.
So this episode revolved, soyou've got some some thoughts
that are right.
You're not far off In additionto big porcelain.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
I also also needle clamp screws were one of the
things they were shipping.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
They were also shipping sewing machines, yeah,
and the thing that knocked themout was nerve gas, yes, which I
don't know about cat nerve gas Idon't know if you know, but no,
no, no, normal nerve gas.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
So they aren't at war with the cats?
No, no, no.
Nobody has any idea what thecats are doing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
There is this whole episode of all is around the
idea that there is a smugglingoperation that is horse, it's
smuggling.
Smuggling anything that theycan is illegal.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
There they're, they're in the.
In the opening scene he learns.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Yeah, In the opening scene you learn about machine
guns, tear gas guns, in factthat the guys that get caught in
the first scene are smoking acigarette and they, like, flick
the cigarette into what then isa spilled, because the truck
knocks over.
Of course they catch them andthe truck knocks over and they
throw the cigarette, but intolike ammunition, which of course

(01:22:44):
blows the truck up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Yes, oh, so they're smuggling ammunition.
Then yeah, there are a lot ofthings, there's been a lot of
things.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Ammunition force, the smuggling drugs, nerve gas,
obviously, Bob, in cases.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
So, so they're very well organized.
Ask a very fundamental questionwhat is a porcelain spa?

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Is it like a whirlpool yeah, it's like a
toilet or a bidet, or somethingyou can also?

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
or is it an actual one of those top spa that may
not have a porcelain but, holdon, does it?
Well, tony knows?
Is it a bathtub of the jets?
I do, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
She get rid of that, like the one in West Side Story.
You get rid of it.
Have you seen those videos?
Banana cleaning your.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Clean your bath tub with your bath tub has jets.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Yeah, I've cleaned.
Have you seen the videos?
No, like YouTube.
What?

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
are the videos that I mean.
I'll make you regret it.
No, I've clean, I've cleaned it, I've completely changed out
the motor inside of my telling

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
No, no, I've cleaned it, I'm fine.
Well, everything got replacedafter the fire.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
So that's, ok.
Yeah give it a year.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
What do they get?
Get all gross.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
I've seen how much back here you have, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
So this is a part of the show You're just saying.
You saw a YouTube video where,like, jets are dirty.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
I'm just curious Do you drink the water of the bath
jets that you're in?
You lay in have you ever beenin a hot tub.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
You just lay in we all agree, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
I don't love, oh, I fucking love hot.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
I don't love hot, I don't know, I fucking love.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
I don't like we got distracted.
People suit.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
This is true this is you like taking baths, so you,
you like to take bath every oncein a while, I like to be
completely immersed in water.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
If I love a bath, breathe underwater, I would want
my bath is is there's no jetbut you?

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
do post shower bath right Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Yeah, I have to shower.
Right, I have to shower first.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
If I take a bath where I'm soaking in hot water,
I will immediately exit the bathand take a shower where I rinse
off.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Yeah, I don't know what.
Yes, so fuck are we talkingabout.
Correct, okay, okay.
What the fuck are we talkingabout, right?

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
now Really straight stuff.
Oh, now I understand.
So this episode, it like itintroduces this, basically, the
first scene-ish is thesesmugglers that are that are have
been caught by a cop or twocops and in the process of
trying to apprehend them, one ofthe older cop dies and the

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female cop who was younger isleft, you know, alive.
So she doesn't control the cats.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
She wants to, then.
She wants to then like avengeher partner.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Right and becomes the smartest cop ever.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Yes, in the same.
She's not a detective, she's acop In plainclothes.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
All of a sudden, now she's in plainclothes, correct,
now she's on her own roof In thesame scenario, Does she's in
plainclothes?
Watch out, in plainclothes.
I like how you say that.
I know you do.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
In the same scenario, she sees a black panther.
She's not freaked out by this.
I mean, she's freaked out bylike, oh, what's up with that?
But she's not freaked out thatlike, oh my God, I saw a fucking
wild cat and somebody shouldarrest this cat.
She didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
So everyone's.
Oh so, is it common knowledgewithin the universe that there
are people that transform thecats?
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
All he is.
He is just a.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
He is a college professor that also works with
the police department in theirscience division, and he fought,
he fought in a ma'am and he gotput in a tiger cage and then he
started breathing a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
They don't explain, they don't explain, they don't
explain his plan.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
He fought in NOM.
They don't explain his partner.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Who is introduced for 30 seconds?

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Who's the best?

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
Who's?

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
the best part A female cop.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, hold on hold, on, hold,on hold on hold on Okay, okay,
no he.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
This is nothing have to do with my supposition by the
way.
There's nothing to do with yoursupposition I leaned heavily
into the porcelain spa angle nonone of it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
I can probably tell by the way we all reacted.
None of us knew anything abouta porcelain spa.
None of us picked up on that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
We did not give a shit with what they were
smuggling by the end.
We gave two fucks about that Isent you the picture in the
first five minutes.
I sent you the picture withtheir smuggling.
So I was so excited.
I was like, wow, they're soorganized with their smuggling,
they go through all of this,they go through all of this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
They go through all of this.
Their truck is a sewing machinetruck.
It says sewing machine blahblah, blah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
It's a giant sewing machine.
No, no, it is not a giant, it'sa machine, it just says
somebody's sewing machine on theside of the truck.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
But what's funny is that as they're loading it, the
bad guy drew he's the one that'sthe head bad guy and moving all
the guns and shit, you can seehim with a list.
So they went through all of theeffort of making it not look
like it's a gun running.
But on the actual list itselfit says 200 Mac 10 machine guns.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Yes, yes, it's literally a decoder list of what
is what, and I'm like theseguys are gonna get caught.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
But, all the while, the entire, so when they're
saying porcelain spa, they meanMac 10 guns.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Yeah, the entire episode.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
the guy that was in the shark attack at the end is a
colonel and he is the throughline of the army.
Who is colonel of the army.
So you are mixing the policeofficers and the military
together and this colonel isfacilitating these shipments.
Colonel Hunt, so that it willExcuse me.

(01:27:51):
It's actually a sea hunt, a seahunt okay.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Colonel Sea Hunt Okay .

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
A sea hunt, and so hunt, he's our colonel of our
country, hunt.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Our country, okay, country, and so he is.
Oh, I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
He's facilitating this, like you know, smuggling
business through like, oh yeah,it's fine, we're not gonna worry
about this boat cause it's fine.
And of course, nerve gas is onand he's selling it to the nerve
.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Terrorists, mm-hmm, all of us.
So that's the cat, the catknockout gas that I saw earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
It was just nerve gas , but there's so much in between
those things, that doesn't makeany difference.
It doesn't make any differenceand also doesn't make any sense,
Like notes that I wrote were.
So the cat visual effect wasthe only one they had money for.
Yes so he turns into a bird.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
So the bubble forehead is used a lot?
Yes, can you tell us?

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
what other animals does he turn into, cause you
seem to know some other animalshe turns into.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Well, I kind of cheated because in the credits.
There is a cobra, nope, hedoesn't turn into a cobra.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Keep going, keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
I did notice that in the park there was an earthworm.
Nope, no, okay, keep going.
And then that's pretty muchwhat's in the credits.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
Yeah, but you saw other animals.
Right In the last few months Isaw a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
I saw like I saw lions and tigers and jaguars and
poos, and what was the what?

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
was the?
What was the one?
Lions and tigers, and whatJaguars and poos?

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Like from what I can tell.
See that, from what I can tell,wait hold on.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
No, no, no.
What did you say before?

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Lions, tigers, jaguars and poos.
No, just just wait.
The one starts with a J.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Wait a minute.
Does that start with a JJaguars?
Wait what we found it what?
He put an extra A on the end ofthat Go again.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
What Jaguars?
And okay, Jaguars, Spell it.
Wait, hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Spell it for the class.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
I can't spell no, come on, come on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Chad can't spell, but you can.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
J-A-G-U Come on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Don't be a.
Don't be a dick.
Okay wait, don't be a dick.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
So imagine you're driving a car that's an
expensive car, that's got Jaguar.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Oh my God, are you British.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
Do you have a helicopter?

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Helicopter.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Okay, we're getting off the helicopter.
Do you have a helicopter or?

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
a helicopter.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Is that the?

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
way they pronounce it in Britain.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Jaguar.
Okay, then why don't?

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
you have a fucking British accent.
I don't know, it's just how Ilearned it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
There's nothing after the R besides the S dickhead.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Who taught you?
Who taught you this Jaguar?
Isn't that like a?

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
jabber.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Are you sure you're not thinking of Jaguar?
He's putting something afterthe R, is it Jaguaras?
Say it again, brent Jaguar.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Lions tigers, jaguars no.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
Stop, you're a fucking dick.
Say the word, say the wordJaguar, jaguar.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
That's how I say it, I'm slowing it down, wait it's.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
Jaguar.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Jaguar, jaguar.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
Jaguar, jaguar.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Well now, my brain is like fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
You're saying it.
You're saying it, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Jaguar, jaguar, thank you, jaguar no.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
Oh my God, you fucking idiot.
Jesus Jaguar, you're sayingJaguar, jaguar.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
You're not saying it right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
No, it's Jaguar, jaguar, say it slower, jaguar.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Jaguar, jaguar Jaguar .

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
No, what?
You say it faster, then you sayit faster.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Lions, tigers, bears and jaguars.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
No Say, jag Say Jag, jag Say the word war.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
War, say raw, jag War Jaguar.
There you go, jaguar.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
No, say raw, say raw, what Say raw.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Raw.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Now say Jaguar.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Jaguar.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Jaguar, I was just trying to get you to make a
sound.
That, jaguar, it goes rawJaguar.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
It's a Jaguar Anyway he turns into a panther jaguar.
Whatever it is panther, somekind of cat?

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
So does he not turn into the fucking snake?
No, the cobra, the cobra that'sused to interrogate is brought
in.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
You're made to think that because, Wait a second.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Did they just bring the snake in for fun?
What sentence did you just say?
Ok, they used.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
Ok, Jag they interrogate a guy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
They're trying to interrogate the lead bad guy.
His name is Drew.
He's in with a sex worker.
They go to his apartment andhe's about to have sex with a
stripper or a prostitute.
She faints and Ty.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
She faints because of sex.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Ty is Jesus' sidekick , right the black guy?
Yes, the cobra.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Oh OK, he's a protector I thought the cobra
was named Ty.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
So then he walks into this Drew's apartment, he
sneaks in and then he goes intothe bathroom and he sets the
basket on the ground in thebathroom behind the prostitute,
and then he takes off the lidand then a cobra pops out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
She sees it and she passes out, and that is Jesus
Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
No, no, no, that is actually turns out to be a real
cobra, but they seem to be.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
Yes, they seem to be tricking us somehow.
Ok, wait, but did you recognizewhere the guy was from?
The actor who played thesidekick Did you recognize?
Where he was from Because youguys have been watching or I
think Jason's been rewatchingthe Wire or watching the first
time in a while.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
He's been a ton of moves.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
He's the mayor in the Wire, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Yes, he's actually got an amazing career and I feel
like for Aquaboy, the mayor inthe Wire.
Yeah, glenn.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
Terman, yeah, he's the mayor in the Wire and then
eventually the former mayor inthe Wire, but then also he was
on Broadway when he was 12.
Yeah, that's him.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Oh, wow, yeah, OK.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
When he was 12, he was in the original Raisin and
the Sun.
For those of you gay theaternerds with me, he played
opposite Sidney Poitier inRaisin and the Sun on Broadway
when he was 12.
That was the original cast, andthen the thing that I feel like
is the most important for ourAquaboy listeners is that he was
indeed married to ArethaFranklin for six years.

(01:34:02):
What the fucking fuck Holy shit, so I just wanted to pass that
along.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Who had what?
The longest funeral of all time.
It was like 75 feet.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
I don't remember seeing him at it, but I'm going
to go back, I'm going to rewind.

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
I'm going to go see what's happening with the Aretha
Franklin.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
What you're telling me is that this had nothing to
do with some sort of big catrescue farm.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
No, no, no, no.
I literally wrote Snake in aBasket.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
What the fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
An.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Egyptian headdress that she found in a cave.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
So the moment that no , also not that.
So the moment that we learnthat the snake is not him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
But he's controlling it with his mind.
Where that's our question, he'snot even there yet.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Well, he comes in, he just shows up, he shows up.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
It was confusing as fuck.
It was momentarily out of the.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
I like boom, he's there, like somehow, so we're
meant to believe.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
So they're interrogating with the snake,
like they're expecting the snaketo ask all the tough questions.
No, no, no so like yes, yes,that's kind of it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Every scene that has an animal, this same actor
immediately shows up.
So we're like used to this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Oh, so he's oh wow, he just he's not the cobra.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Disappeared.
Now he's there.
This is the first incidentwhere the cobra shows up.
His partner brings the cobra ina basket, lets it out.
The cobra shows up, freakspeople out.
And then this the samedetective or not detective,
police officer, what's her name?
Again.
Whatever name is, she shows up.

(01:35:32):
She thinks by this point shehas a theory.
She has a theory that thisanimal is Brooke McKenzie.
Brooke McKenzie has a theorythat, like the professor who
controls animals, is actuallyanimal anamorphic.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
So at this point she doesn't know that he's a puma.

Speaker 4 (01:35:55):
So she?
No, she thinks he is, and sothat's why she thinks he's a
snake.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
She grabs the cobra, she grabs him just like willy
nilly, like.
Give me this fucking code.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
She thinks it's in the credit, that's in the credit
she's grabbing this cobra andlooking his face like you,
fucking bitch cobra.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
What a little dick you are, okay.
And then she then all of asudden, behind her, walks in the
professor, who is the guy thatactually turns into a panther.
She's like, oh my God, shefreaks out, she dies or she
passes out.
And then the next scene.
Yes, thank you.
Motherfucker Correct.
And then the next scene she'sin different clothing.

(01:36:30):
She's in different clothing,but she shows up.
She's at his house.
In a bed and he's like here, myhouse, whatever, and she's like
trying to find lights, and shefinds lights and she turns them
on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
So what's the Hold on ?
Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
And in turning on the lights she also discovers a zoo
exhibit.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
Oh, that's on in the basement.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
Which has a panther in the basement.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Yes, behind glass Like there at the zoo.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
No, no, this is so because you're like what's going
on?
And then he happens to walk inwhile the panther's there and
she's like what the fuck'shappening?

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
The panther's like sitting in an easy chain,
somehow like panther is behind.

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
No, it's no no, she raises the glass.
Yeah, she accidentally raisesthe glass.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
The panther walks towards you like I'm going to
kill you, and the guy walks in.
That is the panther.
The professor walks in with hismind.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
Panther for what?
No, he's in man form, but wenever know.
He like has a littleconversation.
He's like hey, I just rapedthis lady and I'm going to rape
her again.
So get the fuck out of here.
We skipped something.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
She's so confused, Hold on hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Wait, can I ask you a quick question?
Okay, so he has to have.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
So he know, because he shows it Well, where the fuck
is his shark living?

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
So does he have to own.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
No no.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Speak a animal that he can transform into?

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
I don't think so.
Wouldn't it just be easier?
Can he just turn into otherpeople?
Wouldn't that just be easier?

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
You would think you would think but no no, they have
the scene with the cobras.
How does this go back toVietnam?
Melody passes out, okay.
Okay, they wake up in hisapartment.
She's laying in bed, she'snaked.
She's wearing his robe and he'salso wearing like a red
monogram and he's wearing amonogram and he's on the bed.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Is her robe monogramed?
Yes, it is.
It's got Jesus Christ on it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
And he's putting a.
He has a cloth on her foreheadand she's kind of groggy.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
And then she realized she passed out from the cobra.
She passed out from the cobraand just got undressed by him
and she's literally asked him.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Okay, sorry.
So she realizes that she's notwearing any clothes, she's
wearing his robe.
And then so she asks him why amI wearing this?
And he says this what is this?

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Oh, it's my robe.
It's extremely unwise foranyone unconscious to wear
clothing that is tight orbinding.
It sounds like a set up to aporn as well.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
Sounds like a fucking serial killer.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
You're really enjoying this, aren't you?
So she kind of freaks out.
After that she's like I got toget the hell out of here.
Wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Wait one for one second, one second.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
Something feels like it's been inside me and we agree
that he is not British.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
That's a fake British accent.
No, he's really British, he'sreally.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
British he's doing the worst British accent ever.
He's trying to be posh, or?

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
something.
So he's doing like the Americanaccent.
He probably talks like.
He probably is really cocky andreal.
He's probably like good daygovernor Blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
He's not like with a cocky accent.
Good eye.
Well, I thought that he wasthis fucking twat has got me old
, twisted around me knuckles.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Oh, I'm just going to rape her as many animals as I
can.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
We're trying to do the same with some fucking pussy
cats.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
And this fucking bitch and a bird and a hot bird,
is this train spawning all of asudden?

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
I'll have a drink, this drink, and then I'll fuck
her again.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
Boy man the safest thing to do is to change out of
your pajamas.
That's right.
This fucking twat doesn't knowwhat pajamas is.
You know I'm saying so she'sfreaking out.
Diminate him, diminate him,diminate him.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
In Jolly Olin when we call them poofas or boozey
front thing or boosies.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Yeah front fatty.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
It's just so.
That's what she freaks out Backup.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
I got a question I got to insert in here.

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
I'm not a key, a butter it is.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
I'm going to insert my question.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
I apologize.
I apologize, it's my fault.
Please insert your question.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Okay, let me.
Okay, you guys present and I'llinsert.
So is he trying to do anAmerican accent but it's failing
, or is he trying to overdo whatAmericans would perceive as a
British accent?

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Yes, I think he's just trying to be very suave,
he's it's very like a doubleseven-ish Grooming.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
he's grooming her.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
I'm definitely very fancier.
Second question so this is notthe guy who played face on
A-Team no this is not that actor.
Benedict, I think is it's nothim.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
It is not him.
Okay, this guy did Manimal andthat's pretty much it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
Really yes, nothing after that, nothing really no,
not even adult films?
No, are you sure?
No, I know you checked, you,little minks.
Okay, all right, keep going.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
She freaks out, and that's when he recommends to her
let me give you this pill thatwill help you forget Any Cosmos.
So he tries to Cosmos.
Again, again, because he'sdefinitely already done it once,
because he gives her the pill,she fakes taking the pill and
she lays down.
She waits for the other twoguys to go to bed because they
say we're gonna go to bed.
And then she gets out.
Wait what two guys.
Jesus Christ and Ty, I mean.

(01:41:50):
They say they're going to bed.
They say they're going to bed.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Literally that's a weird visual it is, but whatever
.
So let's go to bed.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
Jesus Christ is a guy named Ty.
He's got a Z shell necklace.
Then she gets out of bed andthen Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Christ is the guy from the wire.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
They both go to sleep .
They go to bed, they go to bed.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
No, the wire guy's not there.
No he's there too.
He lives with him.

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
At some point?
Also, doesn't the panther fallasleep next to her too?
At some point, yes, for somefucking weird reason.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
The wire guy Wait he's the panther.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
No, no, wait, where's the wire guy?
This fucking shit is outrageous.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
Well, they spent all this time in a tiger cage I
watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
They spent all the time in a tiger cage and Ty and
Liz got really close and youguys still haven't gotten it
clear to me why he lives in azoo.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
We also haven't gotten it clear to us why he
lives in an underground zoo.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
She goes to investigate.
She goes into his basement,that's what she sees All of the
other animals that he owns andshe finds it.
He has animals in cages?

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Yes, that's what they're trying to say.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
That's what they're trying to say they're friends,
but apparently he speaks to themas well as being them.
I don't understand so she'slooking around his desk, she
accidentally hits a button thatopens up the enclosure for the
panther.
So that happens.
Then she finds his journals,and that's where we hear his
backstory, when he and Ty werein Vietnam and they were both in
a little cage pastored by theVietnam and they were about to

(01:43:14):
be killed.
And that's whenever JesusChrist turns into a panther.
And okay, well, you watched hishand turn into a panther, right
.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
That took less I'm sorry more time than their
backstory for the friendshipbetween him and the Vietnam War.
Oh, so the the the, the, theguy that assists him.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
The mayor, the future mayor of the wire yes, was with
him In the Vietnam, behind thewire in Vietnam.
Correct, they got captured.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
They got captured by the Viet Cong and in that
process JC turned into a panther, bit their ropes to get them
out and which his best friendhad no reaction to.
It was like dude dude, that'sfucking sweet that you can turn
into a fucking panther.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
So he was born as a mutant.
Basically Apparently no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
, no, no, no His father had thesame power.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
His father, no, his father was a researcher of the
power, but he had the he had thesame power he inherited from
his dad.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
Oh, I thought he inherited the.
No, he inherited the research,but it wasn't until he was in
the tiger cage.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
It was the.
He inherited the ability toturn into other animals.
Disagree, I think you justinherited the research.
You're wrong.
You're wrong, chad.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
It was these huge fuck off books of research.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
The real guy, the real guy was, but I mean before
he was born.
So she didn't.
So she didn't find a mummifiedEgyptian king whose head dress
was in the shape of a woman'sreproductive system no, no, not
heaven.
Okay, just checking, becausethat was my supposition.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
I just feel like Tony misled our listener because he
did do 59 episodes of FalconCrest.
Oh, he was in.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
Falcon.

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
Crest After this, and he was indeed born in Cambridge
Shire, England.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Oh, Jesus Christ was.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Yes and his dad.
I really was interested becausehis dad is Sir John Mills.
I don't know the fuck that is,but it sounds very British to me
.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Fuck it, there's literally nothing of note in
this show.
No, nothing really.
There's nothing like you have.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
How could it not be?
This is everything.
And there's an animaltransformation, you know
everything and it is confusing afuck.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
I feel like I could write 10 volumes.

Speaker 4 (01:45:27):
This is more confusing than chance.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
Of confusing elements , more confusing than my
sexuality.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I stepped on that joke.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
No, you're fine, You're welcome.
I am in the unsure column ofthis episode.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
That's why I'm 5.5.
Now, if it was a scale fromzero to 10, I would be a fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
I just don't even understand like what happened,
why, who?

Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
We all understood the rape.
We knew that he's a rapist thatchanges into animals.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
Right, there was one ET callback where as fuck yes,
as JC turns into a hawk, whichhe's done multiple times in the
episode.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
Wait he can be a bird , oh yes, but you never see it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
You never see it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
No that's the only other thing you're seeing when
you get to fly.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
seeing out of his own eyes do you see from his own
eyes?
As I understand it, they nevershow the transition.
They never show it.
They only show Panthertransition.

Speaker 4 (01:46:19):
They only had the one effect no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
The heart transition I feel like you see, like a
little bit of the hand goinglike this no, no, no, there was
a different hand moment.
No, that's his pussy grab.

Speaker 4 (01:46:28):
That's.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
Donald Trump's pussy grab, that could be.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
That's his pussy grabber, okay.
No you never see, so you don'tsee him transition into a bird
no, fuck no.
Or a cobra no, it becomes abird but at one point it becomes
a hawk.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
He's flying to try to go find the bad guys and he
flies over the moon and they'relike paws in the middle of the
moon, as to be like.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Oh, from the ET reference Gotcha.
So does he have in his privatezoo?
Does he have a cobra and a hawk?

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
No, well, we didn't get that deep into it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
The only animal that they show is the Panther, that's
it.
I thought there were othercages though Also he falls in
love with this Mackenzie.
What it bridges?
Wait, Brooke Mackenzie.
Wait, do you?

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
fall in love with the girl you're raping, I guess if
you're a psychopath.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
Oh, that's fucked up, but he does fall in love with
her.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
Why did you ask Jason that question specifically In
episode one?
I should have asked you, you'reright.
Oh shit, what a dick.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
What a dick it is.
There's so much that's tryingto happen, this one episode and
honestly, like.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
None of it helps it.
What are the rules?
No, there are no rules.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
There appear to be no rules.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Clothing is on.

Speaker 4 (01:47:41):
Clothing's off.
It materializes, it first, itmaterializes.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
He turns into a Panther.
Right, we've even brought upthe fact that he but then later
he gets into the rules of likehe can control animals.
Yeah, he can control.
He needs backup and he cancontrol the other animals.
But we haven't even discussedwhen he turned himself into a
house cat and he puts his headinside of Ursula Andrew's
bathrobe while she's on thephone.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
Oh yes, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Also because that's when I wrote what animal do you
think he likes to rape as most?
I was processing Tony, okay,say that again slower.
So he has identified.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
he identified that there is this woman.
The sex worker who wears a furcoat.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
You know well, this is your sex worker.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
You identified her as a sex worker.

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
But she's the.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
In your mind.
That's who she is.
She's the boss lady.
He identifies her as a primesuspect that is connecting with
the colonel we don't know as badyet at this point.
How do they know that the theydiscovered this through the bad
guys and the corruption.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Oh, so she is responsible for murdering Cop's
partner?

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
Yeah, so JC is now a hawk and JC flies around trying
to get close enough to theconversations to listen to this,
who you understand as a sexworker.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Yeah, the big boss lady yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
So he follows her to her apartment, okay, in which he
sneaks in her window.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
That's kind of hot.
Okay, we don't know what hedoes.
Yeah, we don't know what hechanges into or whatever there.

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
But then she comes to her home, in her apartment, she
starts changing clothes, shegoes naked apparently.

Speaker 4 (01:49:12):
She gets out of the shower, she goes to the shower.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
She goes naked, she goes to the closet and she Did
they show it Before she goes tothe closet.
She gets on the phone and she'stalking to the colonel Mid
combo.
She says hold up a second, letme just do something.
She goes to the closet becauseshe thinks she hears something.
Sure enough, there's now awhite, fluffy like house cat in
the closet.
Person.
She doesn't fucking have ahouse cat.

(01:49:35):
She's like oh, a cat got in mycar.
Oh my God, a house cat got inhere.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
How did it happen?
It's weird that she doesn'tfaint Because it surprises her.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
So he's controlling the house cat, so he is the
house cat.
He is the house cat at thispoint, so she just picks up the
house cat, go ahead, tony.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
While she's in the shower, he comes in the door and
he starts snooping around.
Then, all of a sudden, thephone rings.
He hears the phone ringing, heruns into her closet and then
she comes out immediately afterthat, answers the phone and then
Jesus Christ is transferringinto a cat while she's in the
closet.
She hears it, she puts down thephone to investigate the sound.
She picks up the cat.
Oh, a cat.
She picks up a random fuckingcat.

(01:50:11):
Who does that?
Who is in their house?
And a cat is there when you'renot expecting it, so she doesn't
even bat an eye, like right nowin Awkaboy's.
Zero fucks given A cat pops outof the door and you're like what
the fuck?
Let me pick up that cat.
No, fuck, no, you don't, Iwould put that cat.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
You're like get this fucking cat out of here.
It is a rogue cat, but whatwere you saying about it?

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
It puts his head on her, so she's on the phone, so
we're not in there yet no, she'son the phone talking with the
Colonel going over all of theirevil plans.
Then they cut to a shot of thecat has put his head inside of
her bathroom next to her titties.
She's just got out of theshower.
She's naked.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
This is the most rapy show I think we've watched,
which is why I think Brian willvote to renew.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
And it's not an accident.
It's not an accident.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
They have put the cat's head under her robe For
real.
No, it's like covered by therobe.
Yeah, it's looking nipple, it's.
It's.
It's for sure looking nipple.
It's very odd.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
Yeah, you know what I wish?
You could watch this show.
And then you're thinking thetech.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
That is an interesting texture.
They definitely enticed thatcat.
I got to go, guys, I'm going togo find a cat Stack.
So there's nothing redeemableof a show Cat blow jobs, I don't
know.

Speaker 4 (01:51:24):
There's nothing else Like that the tongue is so
sandpapery.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
That was the only thing we had.
It hurts so good.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Right in the hole.

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
Yeah, so that that's the end ofthe show.
They stop the world.

Speaker 4 (01:51:38):
I thought you meant our show.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
They stop the world.
The end of the show.
You show.
You saw the show.
There is no through line.
It is fucking crazy.
So OK.

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
It's like loss there's a million questions and
never an answer.
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
And that is very true .

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Questions here they basically stop the world.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
They destroyed from nerve gas.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
With a cat, a lion, a lioness and a hawk.
I have a shark.
There are there are.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
OK.
How can I say this?

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
There are no team of man no, no, it is all him.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
It's all him, so he's controlling all those other
cats in the warehouse.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Correct.
And one point I asked questionwhat is Wait, Is the cat an
actual cat?
And then later I'm like oh no,no, it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
And then I did have this thought too, because I feel
like all the cabbies were supercooperative with him Very
cooperative Do you?
Think he could also control thecabbies the way that he can
control the other animals,probably.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
What is a cabbie?

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Like somebody's driving a cab.
Oh, that's not the time, so Icould.

Speaker 4 (01:52:36):
I feel like the New York cab drivers are all really
like, willing to help him outwith anything he needs.
You show me a business card.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Ok, you can take over yeah come on, they also have
weird healing powers, like hecan heal himself.
Like he's gotten hurt multipletimes and like he's shot.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
So is he super human in general Like he, I guess,
does he have cat abilities, evenif he's not cat.
He's just super creepy.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
He's super rapy, you got shot at one point though,
and just.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Because cats are horny.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Are they?

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
Cats are horny pets.
No, I think you're thinking ofnine lives, did you?

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
guys notice that the music was fucking.

Speaker 4 (01:53:10):
It was really annoying.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
There was an entire first like 15 minutes the show
was like a high pitch screech.
That made me think that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
I was maybe a dog, but they played beat it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
They did have beat it , but it was not a Michael
Jackson version of beat it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
Yeah, that was Michael Jackson it was not
Michael Jackson.
No fucking way, that wastotally Michael Jackson.
It was not Michael Jackson,100% Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
I can't wait.
How do they fight?

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
you, we are going to fight.
I'm going to find that shitright now and play.
Ok, go ahead.
It was not Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
How did they work in beat it by Michael Jackson?
It was just in a book.
They went to a nightclub.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
Oh OK.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
It was the very beginning of the show.
When they're trying toinvestigate and they're trying
to, they're following the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
Not the very beginning, it was probably like
30 minutes in.
It was fucking nightmare.
It felt like forever.
Horrible it was horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
They go into a nightclub.
They're trying to catch theDrew guy and what the?

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
what guy the Drew?
Oh, ok, the Drew, he was Drew.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
No, it was not good.
Let me talk about the Drews.
Oh my God.
Please don't bring them up.
This was not Schindler's Listat all.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
I was so shocked.
For a minute there I was like Ididn't even know that angle
existed in the show.
It's all just that point.
Wow, you guys sound like youreally love this show.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
It was so bananas, like I mean, there's no through
line, like no just no.
Nothing makes sense.
So the very end where the sharkfin pops up in the pool, that's
the entire show, we thinknothing makes sense and also we
don't even know there was noshark through the rest of the
show.
We also don't even know forsure if that was just a joke, if
that actually was JC, If thatwas JC trying to play a prank,

(01:54:42):
if JC was going to eat him.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
we don't even we don't know, they don't explain.
I don't know.
That is not Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
You didn't tell me, michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
It's not Michael Jackson.
It sounds like one of thosethings If you love Michael.
Jackson, you'll love Jackson,michael Maybe it is.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
That is Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
That is not Michael Jackson.
Well, either way, it didn'tadvance the plot, so I guess
that is a matter.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
It had nothing to do with the show.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
Much like everything else on the show had nothing to
do with the show.
All right, let's vote.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
OK, well, let me ask one more question.
So that's Michael.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
Jackson.
I'm voting to renew.
Motherfuckers, that's MichaelJackson.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
So there was no cop that ran a cat rescue that
starts building a litter boxthat will accommodate the cats
accordingly.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
OK, gosh dang, that was way off my supposition.

Speaker 4 (01:55:41):
Did any of your supposition include rape?
No rape.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
It basically included litter boxes that enclosed
thousands of acres of land.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
No, that is off.
You have a thing with cats,sentient cats, and litter boxes.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Sentient cats are in there and they go to war because
they realize that the litterboxes are.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
No, that's not all, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
OK.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
Cats are persecuting the droos.
I wish you'd talked about that.
That would have been more fun.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
All right.
So, guys, we are in the part ofthe show that is called Cancel
and Renew.
If you guys are done talkingabout a show, I am thoroughly
confused as to what actuallyhappened.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
We are done.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
We're in cancel, renew.
So that means we're going to goaround the table and we're
going to either vote to cancelor renew manual, and if we
cancel it then we move on to anew show.
We'll have to wheel out the bigwheel here into the studio.
Or if we vote to renew, we willwatch Manimal Episode 2 and

(01:56:46):
continue on in this year, youknow in 2010,.

Speaker 3 (01:56:48):
They tried to reboot this franchise.
What they tried to rebootManimal.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Yep, and do it as a movie, because I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
On what channel they were going to do a movie, a
manual movie.
Oh, that's so this is.
Yeah, I did read that this islike a cult show, like people
love this show, but it didn'teven last a whole season.
I mean, it was canceled, it wasput on hiatus after its fourth
episode aired they pulled it.
It's super confusing.
Ok, so we're going to go aroundthe table and vote in cancel

(01:57:18):
and renew, and this time we'regoing to be starting with my
fourth line of succession.
Friend Chad Chad, what is yourvote on cancel and renew?

Speaker 4 (01:57:27):
It was Michael Jackson renew.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
All right, we have one renew vote.
Now we're going to go over toTony.
Tony, what is your vote onManimal?
Cancel or renew?

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
I got to see episode two, so renew.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
God damn it.
I fucking should have canceled.
I wanted to do the opposite ofTony, to fucking tell him to
each.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
You guys are always at war.
It was Michael.

Speaker 4 (01:57:49):
Jackson, you motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
Why can't you just get along and fuck like him,
Jason?

Speaker 4 (01:57:53):
Didn't beat up come out that year.
How would they have had asecond version of beat it?
It's just some dude covering.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
Beat it right, Pay less money.
Yeah, there's no way they couldhave gotten the rights to beat
it with the budget.

Speaker 4 (01:58:05):
They didn't get the rights back then they just did
whatever they wanted.
That's why a bunch of thoseshows like aren't released is
because of the music rights thatthey don't get.
That is true.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
That's why they don't put them on DVD because they
have got weird music copyrightissues.
Ok, over to Jason.
Jason, now that you've had timewith Manimal, what say you on
your vote?

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
Cancel.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
Oh, my god, all right , so over to Brian.
Brian, now that you've thoughtabout Manimal, what is your vote
?
Guys, I'm going to.
I really struggled with my last10 minutes and Can I just, can
I just change my vote?

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
No, you can't?
You already voted.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
You can't change it, even if you go.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
What if I spend the evening?
If you storm the Capitol, youcan't change your vote.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
Wow, I got.
I feel, like guys, that I got ataste of Manimal.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
No, but I don't need any more of it because that's
all you got.

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
But I don't feel like I got a full mouth load and you
don't need it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:13):
You need more rape.
Is that what you need?

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
You're voting yes for rape.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
Is that your voting yes for rape?

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
That's a word understanding.

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
So I think I'm going to make awkward boy great again.
I think I'm going to Renew.
Yes animal to episode two.
We are going to find a standalone.

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
You don't stand alone , I'm just in.

Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
No, you fucking made your choice.
You lying, you bet you.

Speaker 4 (01:59:44):
I was trying to fuck off Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:59:45):
You lying, you were trying to what.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
Tony.
Fuck off, tony.
I don't know how to speak.

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
It's OK, well, guys it's Jaguar I really think that
we take you again one more time.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Jaguar.

Speaker 4 (01:59:56):
So, you're thinking of that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
You're thinking of Jabberwocky, jabberwocky.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
What?
Oh no, I know from Alice inWonderland yeah, there are bears
.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
There are tigers, there are Mayans and they're
Jaguar.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
You're horrible.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
Why are you?
Don't be a dick.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
You like such a dick You're such a visceral reaction.
I love you, I love you I loveyou too.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
I love all these awkward boys that are in front
of me.
All right well listener, thankyou so much for listening.
Please, please, please, please,please, review, share and like
the show.
It helps a ton.
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(02:00:44):
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Speaker 4 (02:00:44):
She's not listening by now 469-666-7366.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
You can text us there as well.
Tell us what we're doing wrong.
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(02:01:12):
Dimitri Lifshits, and I can'twait to experience more minimal
with you, the intrepid listener,and my good friends.
Very soon we're on to episodetwo and any last words.
Everybody, it was MichaelJackson bitch.
Nobody fucking cares.

Speaker 4 (02:01:26):
Happy 40th episode.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
Yeah, happy 40th, the most important day in human
history.
Number 40.
Jason, fuck you.
Fuck you Say what Fuck you Bye.

Speaker 3 (02:02:04):
Stay dry, awkwardboy fan, don't forget to tell your
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