February 3, 2025 • 31 mins
Nate Williams and the Dangerous Life Team get asked how they picked their current career job, or, if they aren't there yet, what are they looking for in a career. They share their advice on how to find your footing if you are ever in this situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is the Dangerous Faith Podcast, and with me we
have Zeke, Chloe, Mariah andJustin, and we are talking about
careers A lot of people in theGen Z demographic.
Well, they or we don't alwaysknow what we're doing and we
don't always know what career topick or choose, and so I
(00:32):
thought, okay, let's get thegroup together and talk about
their career choices or whatthey're moving towards.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
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Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
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time.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Are you saying we should Google what's on OnlyFans
?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
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Speaker 1 (01:09):
Okay.
That's one editing cut, justin,as a leader in the church, good
advice and wisdom there, allright.
So what we'll do is we'll startout kind of going around and
talking about your current jobor your current career and then
we'll go from there.
But Zeke, you want to kick usoff?
(01:30):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I work for an engineering firm here in well, I
guess, actually in Abertville,Alabama, and I do civil
engineering.
So we design different stufflike apartment buildings and
commercial stuff.
So nerdy math stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Nerdy math stuff Chloe.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm currently working toward my doctorate of physical
therapy.
I'll graduate at the end ofnext year.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Awesome Mariah.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
I currently work at a restaurant in town.
I'm going to school.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Okay, great, justin.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I currently work in actual hell.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
For the devil himself .
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes yes.
No, I work at a Walmartdistribution center and I'm
working towards gettingcertified for software
engineering.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, that's exciting .
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Nate, what do you do, oh?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
yeah, for me.
I am the interim associatepastor of a church and also I
help out with a ministry inBirmingham.
Long story short, we kind ofstand between legislators and
churches, trying to get out andeducate and inform.
Trying to get out and educateand inform.
(02:47):
So legislators, if they wantinformation on what pastors and
churches are saying, or whatdoes the Bible say on certain
topics, we help to supplyinformation to our legislators.
And then on the church end, ifchurches want to learn about
laws being passed, bills on thefloor, bills being discussed,
then we go to the churches andwe explain what's happening on
the state side.
So that's ministry is ALCAP.
(03:08):
Y'all can check that out if youwant, alcapcom, justin.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I would just like everybody to know that when Nate
started talking about what hedoes, chloe did laugh, and I
just want to tell you that Isupport my brother in Christ,
unlike Was.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Chloe making fun of me.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yes, when did I?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
laugh at her.
Oh goodness, Justin, I'm glad Ihave you, I don't remember
laughing, but All right.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So that's my other job, and I enjoy what I do, and
so we'll move on.
Then.
For those of you who have yourcareer, when did you know you
wanted to do what you wanted todo?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
What did that look like for you?
I guess I didn't really know.
I mean, this is early in somesense, but also late In, like
late high school, I guess, likewhen I was a senior, I knew that
I wanted to do somethingmedical, but I didn't know what,
and I went through a lot ofdifferent options, um,
throughout high school and um, Iwould always go back to um my
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experience that I had inphysical therapy, um, when I was
in middle school and I tore myhamstrings, um, and just like
the great experience that I hadand um, so my, my main reason
for picking it is, I believe,that it combined my passion of
like exercise and health and themedical world, but also with
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like the gifts that God's givenme, Because I feel like my
spiritual gift is probably likeexhortation, like encouraging
people to do something, and so Ithought that physical therapy
was the perfect solution forthat.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Great In a general sense.
Second grade I liked math.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So was it like I like math.
Therefore engineering Was thatstraightforward.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I liked math and everyone said, oh, you're going
to be an engineer.
And I said I don't want to workon a train and then, I came to
find out that's not allengineers on a train.
And then they I came to find outthat's not all engineers.
So then I decided originally onengineering, but I didn't know
what kind until probably after Ifailed out of college the first
time and then I realized thetop that I would rather do,
(05:17):
because I originally was goingto do like mechanical.
And then I found out I likelike construction and stuff like
that.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I like seeing stuff get built more so okay, so
that's so civil.
Great, all right now for thoseof you you're working towards
your career or you're trying tofigure that out, uh, what I
guess?
What are your options?
What are you interested in?
Mariah justin?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
um, well, I'm definitely interested in the
field of psychology, psychiatry,so definitely hope to go into
something of that nature,working with mental health, so
definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
How did you know that's what you wanted?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Oh, definitely within my own experiences and like
family experiences, I think I'vegained a lot of knowledge on
certain topics and like thingsthat aren't being addressed with
it, whether it's school orchurch or even at the doctor's
office.
Maybe they're not listening toyou, like I think, like I want
(06:21):
to work towards helping thatcommunity of thing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, yeah, so your own experiences, justin.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well, while I'm trying to get my certification
in software engineering, myultimate goal is to do stuff
with video game development,specifically more kind of the
coding side of it, but I'd liketo be all around good at stuff
To where I can.
3d model design levels andstuff like that I find it very
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interesting, definitelycompletely different from what I
originally wanted to do, whichwas.
I used to want to do musicaltheater, that was my passion but
it's a tiny part of mytestimony, I won't go into it
too much.
But something that I turnedinto an idol and made it a God
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and it's kind of fuels my vanity.
So stray away from that andI'll go do something else that I
find incredibly interesting.
Okay, well, great.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
So I'm happy for that .
We're moving in thosedirections and let's say,
someone comes to you.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Oh, what about you, Nate?
When did you know you?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
were going to be a minister?
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
When did God, come down from heaven and tell you
what you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Basically it did not quite look like that, but I was
14 or 15, and I was reading upon Dietrich Bonhoeffer and he
was very inspiring for me and Iloved what he did and the things
he stood for.
A lot of Dietrich Bonhoeffercontent has come out recently,
from books to movies and stufflike that.
But anyways, reading up onBonhoeffer, but also as I served
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in the church, the way God hasspoken to me I try to use that
lightly because people abuse theterm but he does it through
peace.
When I'm where God wants me tobe, I have this overwhelming
sense of peace.
And as I'd serve in youth group, I loved youth group ministry,
young adult ministry, collegeministry.
I just felt at home.
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That's what I wanted to do andI had my prodigal moments.
I don't know if I've told youall this, or maybe I have.
Did you all know?
At one point I wanted to managegolf courses.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, okay, lame.
Well, where did that?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
come from.
Well, sometimes, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Nerd.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Anyways, I love golf for a season of my life and I
was interested.
There were just schools aroundthat had programs on teaching
you how to maintain and manage agolf course and I actually
wanted to do that for a littlebit, funny enough.
But that eventually went itsown way and I got confirmed in
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my calling in a couple ways.
One I was in a class one dayand someone turned around and
said this person was not aChristian randomly said, hey,
you'd make a good pastor.
I was like, okay, that's random.
Then, another person there wasa homeless lady I interacted
with.
At the end of the interactionshe just said, hey, you'd make a
good pastor and eventually Iturned to God and said, I get it
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, I get it, I get it, you wantme to go into ministry.
All right, I'm going so longstory short, just things like
that, just little conversationsand a sense of peace.
But, Zeke, is that satisfyingfor you?
Does that answer the question?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
enough, close enough Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
All right, let's say someone goes to you early 20s or
mid 20s.
They're trying to figure it out.
They don't know what to do.
College is expensive, take outloans, and there's that.
They don't know if they want togo to a trade, school
certificates, all the rest of it.
They don't know what to do.
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They don't know where to start.
If you were giving advice orwisdom, where would you go?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
were giving advice or wisdom.
Where would you go From excuseme from a personal standpoint
now if that is where you sit andlike 18, 20, like, say, you
just graduated high school,right?
A lot of times people try topush you into going to college
right away.
That was a humongous mistakefor me.
I went and not only did I wastemy own time, I wasted my own
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money, I flunked out twice and Inow know that's not what I
wanted to do or where I neededto be.
So I would say take the time,just go work for a couple years.
Okay, get yourself to whereyou're like.
Okay.
Well, I've tried this out.
(10:47):
I don't like this.
For example, I worked at theWalmart Distribution Center
almost five years now and I knowit made my back hurdy and I
don't like it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But I think that the best thing you can do if you're
unsure, go find yourself a goodlittle job and work for a little
bit and be thinking on it andstuff like that.
But try different jobs, seewhat you like.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Okay, anyone else Advice Wisdom.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, I would just kind of say what I said earlier
Take the time to think aboutwhat your passions are and what
your gifts are and maybe try tofind what fits in there.
To find what fits in there, butalso, kind of like Justin said,
um, take, like go shadow someplaces, because you never really
know what it's like until you,you know, follow someone around
(11:37):
for a day or two and that'swhere you really get your sense
of okay, I love this, or I neverwant to be here again.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
True, a job shadowing is phenomenal if you're able to
do it.
Anyone else wisdom advice?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, this comes back to a topic we I guess I bring
up way too much probably.
But being in a good churchcommunity, you can hopefully
have other people speak intoyour life and like, if you can't
see what you're good at or whatyou might enjoy, they may have
suggestions or solutions.
So, being around people whoknow you well whether it's
family or friends, or you know apastor or someone, someone in
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your life who knows you well,knows your talents and stuff
like that and your gifts, thenthey may can suggest something
for you.
So ask around.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, community is massively important.
Now, okay, I have a little bitof a traditional background,
some of my thoughts, some of mybehaviors.
Where's the line betweenpassion and paycheck?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Sorry.
I had one other thing I thoughtof.
Another way you can figure itout sometimes is ask if you
can't ask someone else.
Just think about what am I whenI'm talking to people or I'm
talking to others, what's thething I'm talking about?
A lot Like what is back to yourthing of passion, like I'm
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passionate about the things Italk about.
So maybe that might be an areaand not always but there's times
where that's going to be a goodarea for you to start looking
in, even if it's not what youexpect it to be.
So if, like, for example, takesomeone who's constantly talking
about football, there may besome kind of job for them where,
like, hey, it may not becoaching, maybe sports analysis
or stuff like that Like theremay be some journalism, there's
a bunch of different routes youcan go with sports.
That's just one example.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I like that.
What comes to mind?
What do you like to talk about?
What do you like to research?
I think that's good advice.
Oh, Justin, did you want tojump in?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'd like to add on to this little bit.
Maybe we're going to bring itup later and you can smack me
after the episode.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I just might smack you anyways, as you typically do
.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But if you're at a standstill because you are
afraid you're not doing what Godis calling you to, a, as Nate
said, god will do things toaffirm and help you realize what
you're called to.
For one, I believe, but anotherpersonal belief is don't get
stuck sitting there trying tofigure out what to do.
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God can use you, no matterwhere you're at.
So if that's something that'scausing you to pause and kind of
not be able to figure out whatyou're doing.
Know that God will use youwherever you're at, so unless
he's made it clear to you you'recalling, go do something you
like.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, I've heard it said that same, similar to what
you're saying, but it just kindof made it click for me it was.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I probably said it better.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, probably it's.
Uh, they said God doesn'talways call you to a specific
thing, but he always calls youto have the right character, no
matter where you're at.
So he's called you to have agodly character and he will use
that, regardless of whatposition or place you're in in
life.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I like that.
Don't stop living becauseyou're not quite where you want
to be.
You want to be, or sometimesyou'll be, in a certain place
and you know that's not whereGod might have you in the future
, I should say but also befaithful where you're at.
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Be faithful wherever your feetare, because I know some people
they're like oh I'll startliving at some point, or I'll
start living at some point, orI'll start living when I get to
a certain job or a certain placeor a certain college or
whatever.
Do what you can where you arein the meantime as well.
But all right, mentioning justtraditional type topics and
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traditional type things fromgenerations past.
We're big on passions.
Younger people tend to befollow your passion, follow your
dreams.
Older generations sometimes canbe like forget that.
Do what allows you to pay thebills.
Do what allows you to raise afamily, like who cares?
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Doing what you like.
Do what you need to do in orderto take care of the people
around you.
Forget what you're passionateabout.
Do your adult duty, I guess, isone way of phrasing it.
What are your thoughts on thatpassion versus paycheck?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So I think that there is a kind of middle ground to
walk there.
So you can try and strive to dowhat you're passionate for.
So you can try and strive to dowhat you're passionate for, but
have a backup plan of somesorts, that more stable job in
mind.
For example, it was I'm goingto be honest with you when I
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wanted to do musical theater.
There are so many incrediblytalented people who do that
stuff who never, ever make itbig.
It's kind of just dumb luck thepeople who really make it big.
So there's a good chance Iwould have never made it and at
that point in life I didn't havea backup plan.
It was basically theater or Iwant to be dead, you know.
(16:40):
Theater or die Theater or die.
Yeah, part of the testimonyagain, but yeah, so walk that
middle ground where I'm going tostrive for this.
But I got this backup planthat's a little bit more stable
in case something goes wrong andI can't succeed in that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, plan B, backup plan, I like it.
What are y'all's thoughts overhere?
This side of the table, passionversus paycheck Mariah.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I think it honestly depends on your situation,
meaning like, say, if you'resomeone that still lives with
their parents, maybe you couldwork on more of just your
passion and making money throughyour hobbies, because you have
a fallback versus if you have ababy and you're single and
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you're living alone.
You're having to pay foreverything.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Then your dreams are dead.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, no, no, I'm just kidding, but it makes it
more difficult.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I understand.
Okay, yeah, so it depends onyour living situation.
Are you paying rent or not?
Those things factor in.
Chloe, did you want to hop inpassion versus paycheck?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, I can.
I think it's.
That's a really hard question,Um, but I guess it's just really
where your priorities are.
You know cause some people willgo to schools like I am, and I
don't know why you would chooseto go to three extra years of
school, um, just for a goodpaycheck, Cause that's not what
I'm doing.
I'm doing it cause I reallyenjoy it and it's my passion.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Um.
The enjoyment helps you getthrough some painful parts.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Right, exactly, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone
that doesn't have that passionLike you know it would be tough.
Yeah, like, especially likeeven doctors who go to school
for like way longer than I evenhave to, and they don't even
enjoy it, they just do it forthe money.
You know, they don't even enjoyit, they just do it for the
money.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You know, thinking about just the future, and I
know college is a big questionas you're getting ready to
graduate high school.
All right, do I go to college?
What college?
What do I do when it comes to,let's say, the distant future
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and our future kids?
Lord willing, if we have them,advice you're going to give them
.
Or 16, 17 year old high schoolkids, and they ask you all right
, what do I do about the collegething?
Do I go?
Do I not go?
Seems people have a lot of funat college, so there's part of
it, the college experience, soto speak, and something
different, something new,something exciting.
How would y'all give advice tohigh schoolers?
Slash, maybe, your futurechildren when it comes to
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college, anyone have anythingthey want to share.
What do you?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
think.
To quote the great Shia LaBeoufdon't let your dreams be dreams
.
Do it.
Don't let your dreams be dreamsand also to quote Michael Scott
may your hats soar as high asyour dreams.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well put, beautifully done.
What do you all think about thecollege question?
What would you say to kidstrying to figure that out?
High schoolers, do you go tocollege, do you not?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Loans.
I would say if you're like 16,17, be working as if you're
going, and it's okay if youSomething happens and you don't,
but at least if you do, you'reprepared and ready.
So like you haven't.
The other scenario would belike you say oh well, I'm 16.
I'm not going to go, but thenyou get to 18.
You're like man, now I want togo to college.
It's like, well, you needed tobe doing stuff between 16 and 18
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.
So you might as well beprepared.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And if you don't go, worst, not go to college, just
to go.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I think that's a way of racking up debt.
So you take classes.
Then you realize later, oh Ididn't need those classes.
Don't go just to go.
If you have a good group offriends, you're going to have
fun wherever you are andwhatever you're doing, because
the friends help to supply thefun.
Don't take out, I would say,larger type loans unless there
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is a career at the end of theloan that makes the loan worth
it.
Because I know sometimes peopleget liberal arts degrees and
I've known people in massiveamounts of debt for, say,
sociology or psychology.
Those are fine fields but youjust got to know, all right,
well, what kind of salary iswaiting for you at the end,
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whereas you know some of usengineering is pretty solid you
know, ok, engineering odds areI'm going to get a decent job?
True that yes.
So anyways, just thoughts aboutthat.
Are I'm going to get a decentjob?
True that, yes?
So, anyways, just thoughtsabout that.
I would not just go to college,to go, I'd consider trades.
Were y'all ever interested inany trades, or did that stuff
not really interest you, thepeople in the room?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
No.
Justin says no, no.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I went to I think we called it tech school, but it's
trade school pretty much, whereyou can take an elective in high
school to learn a trade.
That's kind of what got me intothe type of engineering I do
now was I learned how to use acertain software through that.
So if your high school offerssomething like that, I think
it's a really good idea.
That way, if you don't knowwhat you're going to do, you may
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find what you want to do there.
Like they had one for nursing,one for mechanics, slash welders
and one for what I did and acouple others.
But there are good things, likewe talked about good ways to
shadow and kind of learn thatwithout going full in on it.
Ok, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I like it.
Any sort of exposure is good,so people know what they're
getting into.
Okay, so what would your advicebe for those of us who are
maybe in jobs that we don'tabsolutely enjoy and jobs that
we might not love, but we'regoing to be here for a while and
might might be in the situation, for a while we're working a
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job, saying, man, I don't wantto be here, but I have to be
here to pay bills.
How, how do you help peoplethrough those kinds of
situations when they're therefor a while?
We're working a job.
It's like, man, I don't want tobe here, but I have to be here
to pay bills.
How do you help people throughthose kind of situations when
they're there?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
for a while.
Do what they did in the goodold days.
Stuff it down until it eithercomes out in drinking drugs or
terrible rage.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So Justin advocates for repressing your deep, dark
feelings?
Absolutely yes.
Okay, Is there a more Christianresponse or wisdom or
encouragement for those who arein a job for a long period of
time and they don't quite wantto be there?
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Suffering builds character.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Mariah goes for the classic Suffering builds
character.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That's biblical.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Zeke.
What do you think?
Do you have any encouragementadvice for those in those kind
of situations?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Sucks to suck.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Zeke says sucks to suck All right.
We are striking out on biblicalwisdom.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Chloe, can you help us out?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
here.
Okay, I think we need to justbe faithful to wherever God's
put us.
Everywhere we go and every jobwe end up in is going to be
exactly where the Lord hasplanned for us to be, and you
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never know.
There could be a person therethat he wants you to witness to
or encourage in some kind of way, and I think that you know,
even if you're not necessarilyenjoying your job, you can still
be a light to the people there.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I like that, chloe.
So one thing I'll say I'llagree with you, chloe.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I absolutely agree with you.
Wow, that's a first.
I'm so glad yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And, don't worry, don't ever have it again.
But something I can say aboutWalmart that I do have to be
thankful for something I neverthought that I would ever say.
It has helped me become morekind, of toughened me up a
little bit and helped me becomemore of a man.
Yeah, and I think that that'sthere's reason for it.
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I think that God's planned itthat way.
But you can find, even if thejob you're at sucks, I guarantee
you, if you really think aboutit, you can find something
positive out of it.
I guarantee you, if you reallythink about it, you can find
something positive out of it.
For example, I would never beat the church that I'm at now if
I hadn't met Yucky.
Gross Nate and Hot Zeke atWalmart Distribution Center.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
So I have that to thank for a lot of stuff.
Do what?
6-0-0-6.
Come visit him.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Absolutely, absolutely.
They definitely won't escortyou off the premises.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
So what you're saying is you want to take back all
the times where you made fun ofme for saying that I recommended
someone else come work thereand you're like, you're so
stupid, this job is the worstand I would never recommend it
to anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So, depending on the type of person, what type of
person?
Women.
Get yourself on the type ofperson what type of person Women
?
Get yourself on the way fromthere and go do something else.
If you're a crybaby man, like Iused to be, maybe go there and
toughen yourself up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
All right, zeke, you had some thoughts.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I had so many thoughts and then Justin started
speaking and I'm just amazed.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'll tell you what.
I'll talk for a little bit ifyou want to take a moment.
It's going to be for me thesame advice, but I guess from
the other end of the person whois in a certain place for a
period but knows that he or sheis going to move somewhere else
Be faithful with where you are.
That applies to this Befaithful with where God has
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placed you.
Like Chloe said and I can thinkof all the amazing people I've
met through the years I met atthe warehouse some incredible
people.
When I worked fast food andretail, I had some great
co-workers.
There are evangelisticopportunities.
There are opportunities to be alight, to be a light in a dark
place, because a lot ofworkplaces there's depression,
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anxiety, people are unhappy,they're miserable, and you can
go in there and you can be apositive, just a positive light.
That's the word that keepscoming back to me.
You can be a light wherever youare, and so that's what I come
back to.
You are placed there for areason.
You think about Joseph in Egyptbefore he rose to power.
(26:49):
Do y'all remember the story ofJoseph?
What happened to him?
He was placed in jail.
It was a false accusation, buthe made the most of it.
He made the best of it.
His brothers threw him intoslavery.
He made the best of it.
So, no matter where you are,what you're doing, work hard, be
a man or woman of integrity, behonest, be reliable and make
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the most of your opportunitiesand tell people about Jesus.
That can be the case no matterwhere you are.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Zeke did you have?
I'll double down on what you'resaying.
Okay, if your mindset is thatthings aren't fair and things
are terrible and you hate it,that can be true.
Yet what Nate's saying is right, because even Paul himself said
that any kind of work you'redoing, even if you are a slave
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to a master, you are to work forthat person as if Christ is
your boss.
So even when we work for yuckygross people at Walmart and they
get on our last nerve and theymake stupid decisions, we're not
working for them, we're workingfor Christ, and that comes out
in the form of everything Natejust said.
That I won't repeat.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Everything you do do unto the Lord.
All right, y'all.
Before we sign off any finalthoughts, comments, questions,
anything you want to share thatmaybe you did not.
We all look to Justin.
You are the Blake stand-in,because Blake's not here.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Luckily for you, I'm way better than Blake.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I just want to kind of hit home again about
something I said earlier.
If you feel like you were juststuck and you're too scared to
decide because you don't knowwhat God wants you to do, God
will use you anywhere.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Don't be afraid.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
If he has something specific planned for you, I
promise you he will let you know.
As long as you're faithful tohim, yeah, you just got to
listen.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I think that's great, always be listening.
And one thing I like that Zekedoes he always emphasizes
community.
Ask the people around you, askthem hey, what am I good at,
what are my skills, what are mytalents, what do I do that I
seem particularly good at?
If you're at a loss and, uh,you know, if that's what God
wants you to do, he'll open thedoors.
But anyways, y'all againthankful for Zeke, chloe, mariah
(29:16):
and Justin, and we'll head onhome.
So, justin, you want to?
You want to take us away?
Um, just want to tell everybodyout there.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You want to take us away?
Just want to tell everybody outthere rip Luca, Rip Luca.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yes for those who are in that world, Luca, today or
last night was traded to theLakers and we have a live
audience member here who is veryexcited about that.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He is and he absolutely loves LeBron James.
Lebron James is his favoriteperson.
Don't try to talk, don't try totalk, don't try to talk.
You're not allowed.
But yeah, he loves LeBron James, he loves him.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So, anyways, I think, on that note, we'll head on
home.
Y'all have a wonderful day, andmore episodes will come out as
the weeks go by.
Alright, see ya.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Go Lakers.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Lies, lies.
Make sure you cut that part out.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, cut out the lies part.
Thank, you.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
We didn't even talk about the role of like if you
don't want to have a career, ifyou're a mother.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So Mackenzie wasn't here.
I was hoping she would bringthat up.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I was gonna bring it up but I was like no one was
saying anything, so.
I was just like I'm notbringing it up.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I guess he's talking more about what you're doing now
, but I'm like that's what Iwanna do girl.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, me too Raising babies.
I ain't doing nothing.
This is the Dangerous Faith Podcast, and with me we
have Zeke, Chloe, Mariah andJustin, and we are talking about
careers A lot of people in theGen Z demographic.
Well, they or we don't alwaysknow what we're doing and we
don't always know what career topick or choose, and so I
(00:32):
thought, okay, let's get thegroup together and talk about
their career choices or whatthey're moving towards.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Justin, Personally, I think, if you really want a
prosperous career, it'll makeyou a lot of money.
Onlyfans is the way to go.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Justin encourages people to go to OnlyFans.
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yes, absolutely.
For those of us who aren'tfamiliar, what exactly is that?
Yeah, what is OnlyFans?
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I tell you what.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I need some extra money.
Maybe this will be helpful.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm going to encourage research on your own
time.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Are you saying we should Google what's on OnlyFans
?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Okay.
That's one editing cut, justin,as a leader in the church, good
advice and wisdom there, allright.
So what we'll do is we'll startout kind of going around and
talking about your current jobor your current career and then
we'll go from there.
But Zeke, you want to kick usoff?
(01:30):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I work for an engineering firm here in well, I
guess, actually in Abertville,Alabama, and I do civil
engineering.
So we design different stufflike apartment buildings and
commercial stuff.
So nerdy math stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Nerdy math stuff Chloe.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm currently working toward my doctorate of physical
therapy.
I'll graduate at the end ofnext year.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Awesome Mariah.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
I currently work at a restaurant in town.
I'm going to school.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Okay, great, justin.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I currently work in actual hell.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
For the devil himself .
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes yes.
No, I work at a Walmartdistribution center and I'm
working towards gettingcertified for software
engineering.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, that's exciting .
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Nate, what do you do, oh?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
yeah, for me.
I am the interim associatepastor of a church and also I
help out with a ministry inBirmingham.
Long story short, we kind ofstand between legislators and
churches, trying to get out andeducate and inform.
Trying to get out and educateand inform.
(02:47):
So legislators, if they wantinformation on what pastors and
churches are saying, or whatdoes the Bible say on certain
topics, we help to supplyinformation to our legislators.
And then on the church end, ifchurches want to learn about
laws being passed, bills on thefloor, bills being discussed,
then we go to the churches andwe explain what's happening on
the state side.
So that's ministry is ALCAP.
(03:08):
Y'all can check that out if youwant, alcapcom, justin.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I would just like everybody to know that when Nate
started talking about what hedoes, chloe did laugh, and I
just want to tell you that Isupport my brother in Christ,
unlike Was.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Chloe making fun of me.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yes, when did I?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
laugh at her.
Oh goodness, Justin, I'm glad Ihave you, I don't remember
laughing, but All right.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So that's my other job, and I enjoy what I do, and
so we'll move on.
Then.
For those of you who have yourcareer, when did you know you
wanted to do what you wanted todo?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
What did that look like for you?
I guess I didn't really know.
I mean, this is early in somesense, but also late In, like
late high school, I guess, likewhen I was a senior, I knew that
I wanted to do somethingmedical, but I didn't know what,
and I went through a lot ofdifferent options, um,
throughout high school and um, Iwould always go back to um my
(04:11):
experience that I had inphysical therapy, um, when I was
in middle school and I tore myhamstrings, um, and just like
the great experience that I hadand um, so my, my main reason
for picking it is, I believe,that it combined my passion of
like exercise and health and themedical world, but also with
(04:32):
like the gifts that God's givenme, Because I feel like my
spiritual gift is probably likeexhortation, like encouraging
people to do something, and so Ithought that physical therapy
was the perfect solution forthat.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Great In a general sense.
Second grade I liked math.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So was it like I like math.
Therefore engineering Was thatstraightforward.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I liked math and everyone said, oh, you're going
to be an engineer.
And I said I don't want to workon a train and then, I came to
find out that's not allengineers on a train.
And then they I came to find outthat's not all engineers.
So then I decided originally onengineering, but I didn't know
what kind until probably after Ifailed out of college the first
time and then I realized thetop that I would rather do,
(05:17):
because I originally was goingto do like mechanical.
And then I found out I likelike construction and stuff like
that.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I like seeing stuff get built more so okay, so
that's so civil.
Great, all right now for thoseof you you're working towards
your career or you're trying tofigure that out, uh, what I
guess?
What are your options?
What are you interested in?
Mariah justin?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
um, well, I'm definitely interested in the
field of psychology, psychiatry,so definitely hope to go into
something of that nature,working with mental health, so
definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
How did you know that's what you wanted?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Oh, definitely within my own experiences and like
family experiences, I think I'vegained a lot of knowledge on
certain topics and like thingsthat aren't being addressed with
it, whether it's school orchurch or even at the doctor's
office.
Maybe they're not listening toyou, like I think, like I want
(06:21):
to work towards helping thatcommunity of thing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, yeah, so your own experiences, justin.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well, while I'm trying to get my certification
in software engineering, myultimate goal is to do stuff
with video game development,specifically more kind of the
coding side of it, but I'd liketo be all around good at stuff
To where I can.
3d model design levels andstuff like that I find it very
(06:51):
interesting, definitelycompletely different from what I
originally wanted to do, whichwas.
I used to want to do musicaltheater, that was my passion but
it's a tiny part of mytestimony, I won't go into it
too much.
But something that I turnedinto an idol and made it a God
(07:13):
and it's kind of fuels my vanity.
So stray away from that andI'll go do something else that I
find incredibly interesting.
Okay, well, great.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
So I'm happy for that .
We're moving in thosedirections and let's say,
someone comes to you.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Oh, what about you, Nate?
When did you know you?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
were going to be a minister?
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
When did God, come down from heaven and tell you
what you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Basically it did not quite look like that, but I was
14 or 15, and I was reading upon Dietrich Bonhoeffer and he
was very inspiring for me and Iloved what he did and the things
he stood for.
A lot of Dietrich Bonhoeffercontent has come out recently,
from books to movies and stufflike that.
But anyways, reading up onBonhoeffer, but also as I served
(08:00):
in the church, the way God hasspoken to me I try to use that
lightly because people abuse theterm but he does it through
peace.
When I'm where God wants me tobe, I have this overwhelming
sense of peace.
And as I'd serve in youth group, I loved youth group ministry,
young adult ministry, collegeministry.
I just felt at home.
(08:21):
That's what I wanted to do andI had my prodigal moments.
I don't know if I've told youall this, or maybe I have.
Did you all know?
At one point I wanted to managegolf courses.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, okay, lame.
Well, where did that?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
come from.
Well, sometimes, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Nerd.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Anyways, I love golf for a season of my life and I
was interested.
There were just schools aroundthat had programs on teaching
you how to maintain and manage agolf course and I actually
wanted to do that for a littlebit, funny enough.
But that eventually went itsown way and I got confirmed in
(09:00):
my calling in a couple ways.
One I was in a class one dayand someone turned around and
said this person was not aChristian randomly said, hey,
you'd make a good pastor.
I was like, okay, that's random.
Then, another person there wasa homeless lady I interacted
with.
At the end of the interactionshe just said, hey, you'd make a
good pastor and eventually Iturned to God and said, I get it
(09:22):
, I get it, I get it, you wantme to go into ministry.
All right, I'm going so longstory short, just things like
that, just little conversationsand a sense of peace.
But, Zeke, is that satisfyingfor you?
Does that answer the question?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
enough, close enough Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
All right, let's say someone goes to you early 20s or
mid 20s.
They're trying to figure it out.
They don't know what to do.
College is expensive, take outloans, and there's that.
They don't know if they want togo to a trade, school
certificates, all the rest of it.
They don't know what to do.
(09:58):
They don't know where to start.
If you were giving advice orwisdom, where would you go?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
were giving advice or wisdom.
Where would you go From excuseme from a personal standpoint
now if that is where you sit andlike 18, 20, like, say, you
just graduated high school,right?
A lot of times people try topush you into going to college
right away.
That was a humongous mistakefor me.
I went and not only did I wastemy own time, I wasted my own
(10:27):
money, I flunked out twice and Inow know that's not what I
wanted to do or where I neededto be.
So I would say take the time,just go work for a couple years.
Okay, get yourself to whereyou're like.
Okay.
Well, I've tried this out.
(10:47):
I don't like this.
For example, I worked at theWalmart Distribution Center
almost five years now and I knowit made my back hurdy and I
don't like it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But I think that the best thing you can do if you're
unsure, go find yourself a goodlittle job and work for a little
bit and be thinking on it andstuff like that.
But try different jobs, seewhat you like.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Okay, anyone else Advice Wisdom.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, I would just kind of say what I said earlier
Take the time to think aboutwhat your passions are and what
your gifts are and maybe try tofind what fits in there.
To find what fits in there, butalso, kind of like Justin said,
um, take, like go shadow someplaces, because you never really
know what it's like until you,you know, follow someone around
(11:37):
for a day or two and that'swhere you really get your sense
of okay, I love this, or I neverwant to be here again.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
True, a job shadowing is phenomenal if you're able to
do it.
Anyone else wisdom advice?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, this comes back to a topic we I guess I bring
up way too much probably.
But being in a good churchcommunity, you can hopefully
have other people speak intoyour life and like, if you can't
see what you're good at or whatyou might enjoy, they may have
suggestions or solutions.
So, being around people whoknow you well whether it's
family or friends, or you know apastor or someone, someone in
(12:12):
your life who knows you well,knows your talents and stuff
like that and your gifts, thenthey may can suggest something
for you.
So ask around.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, community is massively important.
Now, okay, I have a little bitof a traditional background,
some of my thoughts, some of mybehaviors.
Where's the line betweenpassion and paycheck?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Sorry.
I had one other thing I thoughtof.
Another way you can figure itout sometimes is ask if you
can't ask someone else.
Just think about what am I whenI'm talking to people or I'm
talking to others, what's thething I'm talking about?
A lot Like what is back to yourthing of passion, like I'm
(12:53):
passionate about the things Italk about.
So maybe that might be an areaand not always but there's times
where that's going to be a goodarea for you to start looking
in, even if it's not what youexpect it to be.
So if, like, for example, takesomeone who's constantly talking
about football, there may besome kind of job for them where,
like, hey, it may not becoaching, maybe sports analysis
or stuff like that Like theremay be some journalism, there's
a bunch of different routes youcan go with sports.
That's just one example.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I like that.
What comes to mind?
What do you like to talk about?
What do you like to research?
I think that's good advice.
Oh, Justin, did you want tojump in?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'd like to add on to this little bit.
Maybe we're going to bring itup later and you can smack me
after the episode.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I just might smack you anyways, as you typically do
.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But if you're at a standstill because you are
afraid you're not doing what Godis calling you to, a, as Nate
said, god will do things toaffirm and help you realize what
you're called to.
For one, I believe, but anotherpersonal belief is don't get
stuck sitting there trying tofigure out what to do.
(13:58):
God can use you, no matterwhere you're at.
So if that's something that'scausing you to pause and kind of
not be able to figure out whatyou're doing.
Know that God will use youwherever you're at, so unless
he's made it clear to you you'recalling, go do something you
like.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, I've heard it said that same, similar to what
you're saying, but it just kindof made it click for me it was.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I probably said it better.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, probably it's.
Uh, they said God doesn'talways call you to a specific
thing, but he always calls youto have the right character, no
matter where you're at.
So he's called you to have agodly character and he will use
that, regardless of whatposition or place you're in in
life.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I like that.
Don't stop living becauseyou're not quite where you want
to be.
You want to be, or sometimesyou'll be, in a certain place
and you know that's not whereGod might have you in the future
, I should say but also befaithful where you're at.
(15:01):
Be faithful wherever your feetare, because I know some people
they're like oh I'll startliving at some point, or I'll
start living at some point, orI'll start living when I get to
a certain job or a certain placeor a certain college or
whatever.
Do what you can where you arein the meantime as well.
But all right, mentioning justtraditional type topics and
(15:23):
traditional type things fromgenerations past.
We're big on passions.
Younger people tend to befollow your passion, follow your
dreams.
Older generations sometimes canbe like forget that.
Do what allows you to pay thebills.
Do what allows you to raise afamily, like who cares?
(15:43):
Doing what you like.
Do what you need to do in orderto take care of the people
around you.
Forget what you're passionateabout.
Do your adult duty, I guess, isone way of phrasing it.
What are your thoughts on thatpassion versus paycheck?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So I think that there is a kind of middle ground to
walk there.
So you can try and strive to dowhat you're passionate for.
So you can try and strive to dowhat you're passionate for, but
have a backup plan of somesorts, that more stable job in
mind.
For example, it was I'm goingto be honest with you when I
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wanted to do musical theater.
There are so many incrediblytalented people who do that
stuff who never, ever make itbig.
It's kind of just dumb luck thepeople who really make it big.
So there's a good chance Iwould have never made it and at
that point in life I didn't havea backup plan.
It was basically theater or Iwant to be dead, you know.
(16:40):
Theater or die Theater or die.
Yeah, part of the testimonyagain, but yeah, so walk that
middle ground where I'm going tostrive for this.
But I got this backup planthat's a little bit more stable
in case something goes wrong andI can't succeed in that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, plan B, backup plan, I like it.
What are y'all's thoughts overhere?
This side of the table, passionversus paycheck Mariah.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I think it honestly depends on your situation,
meaning like, say, if you'resomeone that still lives with
their parents, maybe you couldwork on more of just your
passion and making money throughyour hobbies, because you have
a fallback versus if you have ababy and you're single and
(17:25):
you're living alone.
You're having to pay foreverything.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Then your dreams are dead.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, no, no, I'm just kidding, but it makes it
more difficult.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I understand.
Okay, yeah, so it depends onyour living situation.
Are you paying rent or not?
Those things factor in.
Chloe, did you want to hop inpassion versus paycheck?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, I can.
I think it's.
That's a really hard question,Um, but I guess it's just really
where your priorities are.
You know cause some people willgo to schools like I am, and I
don't know why you would chooseto go to three extra years of
school, um, just for a goodpaycheck, Cause that's not what
I'm doing.
I'm doing it cause I reallyenjoy it and it's my passion.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Um.
The enjoyment helps you getthrough some painful parts.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Right, exactly, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone
that doesn't have that passionLike you know it would be tough.
Yeah, like, especially likeeven doctors who go to school
for like way longer than I evenhave to, and they don't even
enjoy it, they just do it forthe money.
You know, they don't even enjoyit, they just do it for the
money.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You know, thinking about just the future, and I
know college is a big questionas you're getting ready to
graduate high school.
All right, do I go to college?
What college?
What do I do when it comes to,let's say, the distant future
(18:52):
and our future kids?
Lord willing, if we have them,advice you're going to give them
.
Or 16, 17 year old high schoolkids, and they ask you all right
, what do I do about the collegething?
Do I go?
Do I not go?
Seems people have a lot of funat college, so there's part of
it, the college experience, soto speak, and something
different, something new,something exciting.
How would y'all give advice tohigh schoolers?
Slash, maybe, your futurechildren when it comes to
(19:12):
college, anyone have anythingthey want to share.
What do you?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
think.
To quote the great Shia LaBeoufdon't let your dreams be dreams
.
Do it.
Don't let your dreams be dreamsand also to quote Michael Scott
may your hats soar as high asyour dreams.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well put, beautifully done.
What do you all think about thecollege question?
What would you say to kidstrying to figure that out?
High schoolers, do you go tocollege, do you not?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Loans.
I would say if you're like 16,17, be working as if you're
going, and it's okay if youSomething happens and you don't,
but at least if you do, you'reprepared and ready.
So like you haven't.
The other scenario would belike you say oh well, I'm 16.
I'm not going to go, but thenyou get to 18.
You're like man, now I want togo to college.
It's like, well, you needed tobe doing stuff between 16 and 18
(20:11):
.
So you might as well beprepared.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And if you don't go, worst, not go to college, just
to go.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I think that's a way of racking up debt.
So you take classes.
Then you realize later, oh Ididn't need those classes.
Don't go just to go.
If you have a good group offriends, you're going to have
fun wherever you are andwhatever you're doing, because
the friends help to supply thefun.
Don't take out, I would say,larger type loans unless there
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is a career at the end of theloan that makes the loan worth
it.
Because I know sometimes peopleget liberal arts degrees and
I've known people in massiveamounts of debt for, say,
sociology or psychology.
Those are fine fields but youjust got to know, all right,
well, what kind of salary iswaiting for you at the end,
(21:13):
whereas you know some of usengineering is pretty solid you
know, ok, engineering odds areI'm going to get a decent job?
True that yes.
So anyways, just thoughts aboutthat.
Are I'm going to get a decentjob?
True that, yes?
So, anyways, just thoughtsabout that.
I would not just go to college,to go, I'd consider trades.
Were y'all ever interested inany trades, or did that stuff
not really interest you, thepeople in the room?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
No.
Justin says no, no.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I went to I think we called it tech school, but it's
trade school pretty much, whereyou can take an elective in high
school to learn a trade.
That's kind of what got me intothe type of engineering I do
now was I learned how to use acertain software through that.
So if your high school offerssomething like that, I think
it's a really good idea.
That way, if you don't knowwhat you're going to do, you may
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find what you want to do there.
Like they had one for nursing,one for mechanics, slash welders
and one for what I did and acouple others.
But there are good things, likewe talked about good ways to
shadow and kind of learn thatwithout going full in on it.
Ok, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I like it.
Any sort of exposure is good,so people know what they're
getting into.
Okay, so what would your advicebe for those of us who are
maybe in jobs that we don'tabsolutely enjoy and jobs that
we might not love, but we'regoing to be here for a while and
might might be in the situation, for a while we're working a
(22:37):
job, saying, man, I don't wantto be here, but I have to be
here to pay bills.
How, how do you help peoplethrough those kinds of
situations when they're therefor a while?
We're working a job.
It's like, man, I don't want tobe here, but I have to be here
to pay bills.
How do you help people throughthose kind of situations when
they're there?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
for a while.
Do what they did in the goodold days.
Stuff it down until it eithercomes out in drinking drugs or
terrible rage.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So Justin advocates for repressing your deep, dark
feelings?
Absolutely yes.
Okay, Is there a more Christianresponse or wisdom or
encouragement for those who arein a job for a long period of
time and they don't quite wantto be there?
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Suffering builds character.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Mariah goes for the classic Suffering builds
character.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That's biblical.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Zeke.
What do you think?
Do you have any encouragementadvice for those in those kind
of situations?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Sucks to suck.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Zeke says sucks to suck All right.
We are striking out on biblicalwisdom.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Chloe, can you help us out?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
here.
Okay, I think we need to justbe faithful to wherever God's
put us.
Everywhere we go and every jobwe end up in is going to be
exactly where the Lord hasplanned for us to be, and you
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never know.
There could be a person therethat he wants you to witness to
or encourage in some kind of way, and I think that you know,
even if you're not necessarilyenjoying your job, you can still
be a light to the people there.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I like that, chloe.
So one thing I'll say I'llagree with you, chloe.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I absolutely agree with you.
Wow, that's a first.
I'm so glad yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And, don't worry, don't ever have it again.
But something I can say aboutWalmart that I do have to be
thankful for something I neverthought that I would ever say.
It has helped me become morekind, of toughened me up a
little bit and helped me becomemore of a man.
Yeah, and I think that that'sthere's reason for it.
(24:28):
I think that God's planned itthat way.
But you can find, even if thejob you're at sucks, I guarantee
you, if you really think aboutit, you can find something
positive out of it.
I guarantee you, if you reallythink about it, you can find
something positive out of it.
For example, I would never beat the church that I'm at now if
I hadn't met Yucky.
Gross Nate and Hot Zeke atWalmart Distribution Center.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
So I have that to thank for a lot of stuff.
Do what?
6-0-0-6.
Come visit him.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Absolutely, absolutely.
They definitely won't escortyou off the premises.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
So what you're saying is you want to take back all
the times where you made fun ofme for saying that I recommended
someone else come work thereand you're like, you're so
stupid, this job is the worstand I would never recommend it
to anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So, depending on the type of person, what type of
person?
Women.
Get yourself on the type ofperson what type of person Women
?
Get yourself on the way fromthere and go do something else.
If you're a crybaby man, like Iused to be, maybe go there and
toughen yourself up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
All right, zeke, you had some thoughts.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I had so many thoughts and then Justin started
speaking and I'm just amazed.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'll tell you what.
I'll talk for a little bit ifyou want to take a moment.
It's going to be for me thesame advice, but I guess from
the other end of the person whois in a certain place for a
period but knows that he or sheis going to move somewhere else
Be faithful with where you are.
That applies to this Befaithful with where God has
(26:02):
placed you.
Like Chloe said and I can thinkof all the amazing people I've
met through the years I met atthe warehouse some incredible
people.
When I worked fast food andretail, I had some great
co-workers.
There are evangelisticopportunities.
There are opportunities to be alight, to be a light in a dark
place, because a lot ofworkplaces there's depression,
(26:26):
anxiety, people are unhappy,they're miserable, and you can
go in there and you can be apositive, just a positive light.
That's the word that keepscoming back to me.
You can be a light wherever youare, and so that's what I come
back to.
You are placed there for areason.
You think about Joseph in Egyptbefore he rose to power.
(26:49):
Do y'all remember the story ofJoseph?
What happened to him?
He was placed in jail.
It was a false accusation, buthe made the most of it.
He made the best of it.
His brothers threw him intoslavery.
He made the best of it.
So, no matter where you are,what you're doing, work hard, be
a man or woman of integrity, behonest, be reliable and make
(27:12):
the most of your opportunitiesand tell people about Jesus.
That can be the case no matterwhere you are.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Zeke did you have?
I'll double down on what you'resaying.
Okay, if your mindset is thatthings aren't fair and things
are terrible and you hate it,that can be true.
Yet what Nate's saying is right, because even Paul himself said
that any kind of work you'redoing, even if you are a slave
(27:41):
to a master, you are to work forthat person as if Christ is
your boss.
So even when we work for yuckygross people at Walmart and they
get on our last nerve and theymake stupid decisions, we're not
working for them, we're workingfor Christ, and that comes out
in the form of everything Natejust said.
That I won't repeat.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Everything you do do unto the Lord.
All right, y'all.
Before we sign off any finalthoughts, comments, questions,
anything you want to share thatmaybe you did not.
We all look to Justin.
You are the Blake stand-in,because Blake's not here.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Luckily for you, I'm way better than Blake.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I just want to kind of hit home again about
something I said earlier.
If you feel like you were juststuck and you're too scared to
decide because you don't knowwhat God wants you to do, God
will use you anywhere.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Don't be afraid.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
If he has something specific planned for you, I
promise you he will let you know.
As long as you're faithful tohim, yeah, you just got to
listen.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I think that's great, always be listening.
And one thing I like that Zekedoes he always emphasizes
community.
Ask the people around you, askthem hey, what am I good at,
what are my skills, what are mytalents, what do I do that I
seem particularly good at?
If you're at a loss and, uh,you know, if that's what God
wants you to do, he'll open thedoors.
But anyways, y'all againthankful for Zeke, chloe, mariah
(29:16):
and Justin, and we'll head onhome.
So, justin, you want to?
You want to take us away?
Um, just want to tell everybodyout there.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You want to take us away?
Just want to tell everybody outthere rip Luca, Rip Luca.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yes for those who are in that world, Luca, today or
last night was traded to theLakers and we have a live
audience member here who is veryexcited about that.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He is and he absolutely loves LeBron James.
Lebron James is his favoriteperson.
Don't try to talk, don't try totalk, don't try to talk.
You're not allowed.
But yeah, he loves LeBron James, he loves him.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So, anyways, I think, on that note, we'll head on
home.
Y'all have a wonderful day, andmore episodes will come out as
the weeks go by.
Alright, see ya.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Go Lakers.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Lies, lies.
Make sure you cut that part out.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, cut out the lies part.
Thank, you.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
We didn't even talk about the role of like if you
don't want to have a career, ifyou're a mother.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So Mackenzie wasn't here.
I was hoping she would bringthat up.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I was gonna bring it up but I was like no one was
saying anything, so.
I was just like I'm notbringing it up.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I guess he's talking more about what you're doing now
, but I'm like that's what Iwanna do girl.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, me too Raising babies.
I ain't doing nothing.
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