February 17, 2025 • 41 mins
Nate Williams and the Dangerous Life Team talk about questions they would like to ask God.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is the Dangerous Faith Podcast.
My name is Nate Williams.
With me we have Zeke, chloeBlake and Justin, I hated that.
Very thankful for everyonejoining us today.
And what are y'all talkingabout?
He goes yo.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It just reminds me of this TikTok.
I saw where it's, this boy bandcalled no Lonely Hearts, and
they're dancing, and he goes ohhey, there I'm Aiden.
And then they go down the lineand it's just so stupid, I hated
it.
And so when he goes line andit's just so stupid, I hated it
and somebody goes, yo ew dude.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Go away.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'm sorry, papa Blake , no so we will be referring to
Blake as Papa Blake today.
Blake, do you want to tell thestory behind Papa Blake?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, I was just up there giving the church
announcements in front of ourwhole congregation and I started
freestyling, instead juststicking to the script, and uh
called myself papa blake allright, and so he has given
himself a new name you couldhave called yourself daddy blake
or something like that, and itcould have been way worse I
think, papa blake's pretty badit's pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I don't know I think daddy blake is not as bad as it
could have been papa blake, wewould have made it work.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But anyways anyways, moving on, our topic for today
is if you could ask god aquestion, what would it be and I
know late night conversations,oh, what would you ask j?
What would it be?
And I know late nightconversations.
What would you ask Jesus?
What would you ask God?
That can be a topic ofconversation, and so that's what
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we'll cover for today.
So it can be serious, as weknow, talking about death and
sin, addiction, disease.
It can get serious or it can bemore lighthearted and fun,
wherever y'all want to go withit.
But I'll open it up If you askGod a question.
All right, papa Blake, why didhe let?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
me call myself Papa Blake.
Why didn't he?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
just stop me.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Why did?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
God in his sovereignty not prevent you from
saying that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I don't know.
Pride comes before the falldude.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So we can ask God in heaven that yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yep, what else?
Oh, like a real seriousquestion.
Actually, I would love to askGod why he didn't mention any
part of Jesus's youth other thanbeing left at the temple, like
if he was just a carpenter andhe was just learning, like I
would have loved to known, likewhy that was left out.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, I have the same question.
Well, more specifically, notwhy they didn't leave it in the
scripture, but why, like whatwas it?
Yeah, I'm curious, like whatwould have been like to be his
brother, like your mom's alwayslike, just be more like your
brother jesus, like I can't,it's impossible.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
He's literally god well, there are some books that
have some details of Jesus' life.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
There's Apocryphal, oh, like the Gospel of Thomas,
yeah where he kills somebody.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We actually had a.
The sermon today was on theteenage years of Jesus.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Really Well that one scripture that you're talking
about.
It was literally on that it wasleft at the temple.
Just that being left at thetemple.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That was Nate's children's time today.
Yeah, pretty good how that alllines up.
We have in our sanctuary one ofthe stained glass windows.
Is of that episode, of thatpassage.
So pretty good, all right.
So, zeke.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Do you think, going back to his childhood, our
teenage years, did it?
Well, it's probably theirculture.
Probably wasn't like ours, soyou may can actually answer this
, but was there ever a timewhere, like someone would have
been romantically interested inJesus and like he had to like
let them down easy, like no?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That is interesting.
How would he handle femaleinterest?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yes, you know it's really interesting.
Going back to the brother thing, I don't even think, because
there's a lot of scripture, likewe went through in Mark,
because you know his familycomes and he's like who's my?
Mother who, like we wentthrough it in Mark because you
know his family comes and he'slike who's my mother, who's my
brother, who's my sister, likeit's it's a safe assumption to
believe that.
Well, no, it's not a safeassumption, it's actually in
scripture.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Like they don't they didn't believe that Jesus was
who he says he was.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
James didn't believe he was the Messiah until after
he rose again, so I wonder whatthat would have's like.
He's just a really good person.
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
His mom understood at least some part of it, right?
Like she didn't know everything, obviously, but there's a sense
in which she knew, obviously,like you read the um infancy
story and like she literally hasbeen told by an angel like hey,
you're going to be a virginconceive and he's going to be
the son of god, etc.
Etc.
But like, I'm sure, all theminor details.
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She's like I'm so confused,like back to the teenage thing
of like they leave for a day andlike ross, he's gone and come
back like jesus, what are youdoing?
And he's like I'm literally inmy father's house.
Do you not understand?
She's like no, I don'tunderstand.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I wonder if there were times with mary and j and
Joseph where he has an answerlike that and they're like don't
talk back to us, but for him,it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Anyways, very interesting, but Zeke, what's a
virgin?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'll let Papa Blake explain that one.
Oh no.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Papa.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Blake.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Do you want me to describe it in like the
proto-evangelical James?
I can't say that word.
You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, Anyways, off of that, I do wonder when it comes
to that topic did.
Mary and Joseph have to givethe birds and the bee.
Talk to Jesus, or did he justknow?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
That's interesting.
Why would they?
It's not like he would ever.
Even if he didn't know, whywould he ever need it?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, I'm not sure if they knew he'd ever get married
.
They didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
No, because Jesus would have definitely struggled
with that because he's like weread in scripture he was tempted
with everything that we wouldhave been tempted with.
So Jesus definitely would havestruggled with lust.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
How do we?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Well, he didn't succumb to it, but he would have
that temptation.
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I have is what's the fine line between being tempted
and like?
I know the part where you givein to it but like, what's that?
What's the difference between?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
What is?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
that vague area in between.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
I know what you mean, jesus canbe tempted, but he never sinned
.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, where does it go from not being sent to a sin?
It's not a sin to be tempted,but then you are responsible for
your response.
So your thoughts and youractions, your words, after the
temptation, they count.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
So picture like an 18-year-old Jesus.
He's walking down the roadright and a girl shows a little
bit of ankle Scandalous.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Scandalous right.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Jesus wouldn't even give it another thought, Whereas
we would have been like there'sa leg attached to that ankle.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
And there's more attached to the leg.
There's more attached to thatleg.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And there's a foot if you go southward.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
There's so many places you can go, Anyways.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
so yes, all those interesting conversations.
I have no idea the answer tosome of these questions, but,
yes, what was that?
Like Jesus's teenage years,blake.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Another question this might've been answered, but I
want to.
I asked it when I was readingthrough Exodus.
There's a moment in Exoduswhere God is going to kill Moses
for some reason.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Exodus 14.
Yeah, and he just glances rightover it.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, I want to know like what did Moses do that made
God so mad he was going to likekill Moses.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Circumcision.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Was that?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
it.
That was it, no way.
And so Moses, funny enough, offour sermon today.
He had to get the snip, snip.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And he just refused, and that's why God was like
Either refused or he didn't knowabout the requirements.
And so God was just going tokill him.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Anyways, I'm very thankful that did not happen.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, me too.
Yes, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It would have been tough for my Jewish people.
How did you?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
figure it out.
Did you just study that?
Where did?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
you find that?
Where did you find the answer?
It's in Exodus.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So it's in Exodus, yeah, because we talked about
this before and you're like Ihave no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I promise you, we talked about this.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I think we've talked about circumcision before.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
We have talked about circumcision, but I was talking
about the event that-.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And I told you, blake , you don't need to go forward
with it, because we're covered,I'm already circumcised, we're
covered.
Paul talks about it's notnecessary for salvation.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, I told my parents that.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They didn't hear me out when you were born or later
in life, what year was this?
Was this like last year 1999.
Anyways, okay, where are we.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, what questions do you have, chloe?
What other questions do you?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
have Questions you would like to ask God.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Okay, well, mine's more goofy and it's kind of
funny that this is the topic,because I was literally just
talking to a friend a few daysago about these crazy stories
that happened and in my life andjust like how I don't know the
cause and I was like man when Igo to heaven I'm going to ask
God like how did this happen?
Like I'll just give an exampleof one of them there was one
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time where and they bothinvolved my car, by the way A
few years ago I walked out to mycar, which was parked outside
of my parents' old house, and myentire back windshield was
completely shattered, like youcouldn't see a single centimeter
on my window.
And I have no idea how thathappened, like zero clue.
So, just like random thingslike that in my life that are
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completely random and goofy anddon't even matter in the long
run, but just like I just wantto know, like I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Oh, I'll share the other one.
The other one's a little moreweird.
It's also involved my car.
I was walking out to my car,parked outside of my parents'
old house, and there were twohot dogs sitting on my car and I
have no explanation Zero.
Maybe you were hungry.
No, they were just like theydidn't have the bun, or anything
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it was just the.
You know, maybe god wasdelivering you food no, it's
just the way it's like they fellout of the trees it's literally
like they fell out of the treesI'm glad you brought up manna.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So if god brought you manna so that you could survive
in the wilderness, would you belike?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I'm not eating this, or, in this case, two piping hot
oscar meyer wieners.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yes and I have to correct myself from earlier.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It was exodus four, so my bad, I was gonna say 14,
sounds like a little bit later,yeah so that's um.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That is fascinating and I bet god knows, just like
random things in life just likerandom things.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And then like.
Another one you can think of islike um, I was telling her
about this too was like on ourhoneymoon, when we were short
one dollar, like getting back toour cruise.
Like um, we were at the beachand we we had to pay to take the
bus back and we were short onedollar and like a dollar showed
up in the ocean, like I don'tthink that was coincidence but
like, yeah, that's essentiallywhat this was.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It boils down to like we ended up having we had to
give them cash because theydidn't take a card, and I had
happened to find the $1 that weneeded earlier in the day just
laying in the ocean.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
No, I found it or.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Chloe found it.
I found it in the sand.
A crab or something orsomething in the sand was
holding it.
Yeah, it's like god provided,like we didn't even pray about
it or anything.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
God just provided anyways yeah, hey god, I need a,
I need a dollar, and then ahomeless man would rob me.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'd be like, well, but the homeless man needed it
too, that's true, but I hadnothing to give anyways but the
other things.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I think my questions would just be like things like
um, where's like the Ark of theCovenant or like the Garden of
Eden or like Noah's.
Ark like where's all that?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
those are solid questions.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I've always because I'm reading through Genesis
right now like the flaming sword, like going and the Garden of
Eden.
I'm like dude, have we everfound that we've been
unstoppable?
Dude, like well, first off wecould never get near it.
But that I mean, how could youexplain that away?
There's literally a flamingsword, like just on patrol.
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You try to get near this gardenand it kills you Like checkmate
.
Atheist.
What are you going to say aboutthat?
Yeah, is it a hallucination?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Do you, if we found the Ark of the Covenant today,
would we die if we touched it?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, I would assume so.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Well, I mean it depends.
Does God's presence used todwell?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
in it right, Does it still?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
dwell in it, the same way that it doesn't dwell in
the temple anymore, because weare the temple.
If he took it up.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's interesting.
That's a great question.
Well, answer it for me.
These are questions you gottagot to ask God.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You're the closest thing we have here.
Don't say that.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Night is not God, don't say that I'm going to get
struck by a lightning bolt.
Aren't you like an apostle?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Technically.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yes, the.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Greek word for apostle means messenger, so
we're all messengers in thatpart.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But aren't you like the highest messengers?
No, stop it.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Anyways, that's a great question and I'd like to
know as well.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
My next question is next question, please.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Next question.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The Shroud of Turin.
Is it real?
I'm convinced it is but I wantto know for a fact Nate Is it?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
real.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I'm convinced it is, but I want to know for a fact.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Nate, so the shroud I find very interesting, but some
apologists they love to use it.
That's one of their go-tos.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
If it's real, it's a good go-to.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I agree.
Can you explain what this is?
Not that Blake doesn't know,but in case someone— I actually
don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So the shroud of Turin is believed to be the
burial cloth of jesus oh, I'veheard.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yes, never mind so they've done so.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
For those who aren't blake um and don't actually
don't know, is they've done somescientific studies on the
shroud itself, like it's beenkept in?
I think the vatican right no,yeah, I think it's.
It's in turin, something likethat anyways, the catholic
church has had um it for a longtime and they can date back to
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at least a few to 14th century.
The problem is that there'sthings about it that can't be
explained or replicated today,like some people have tried to
replicate this exact thing andthey can't do it in modern era.
So how do we?
And the atheist was like, well,it's a 14th century forgery,
okay, but if we can't forge itlike, we can't make another
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forgery today.
How did they do it in 14thcentury?
Some of the things that come upis like if you take a picture,
there's always a negative uhimage of it.
I don't I'm not super big inphotography, but I just know
that there's something weirdabout it where, when they took a
picture of it, there were thenegative is normally where the
negative looks weird and thenormal looks like it's supposed
to.
It's reverse.
That doesn't really happen withanything else.
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And then, two, they were ableto get a 3d image off of it and
that's what it looked like.
It's a picture of chloe's uhshowing blake, is it literally
looks like a man from firstcentury, uh, nazareth.
And this is a 14th century no,it's not.
I I believe it's actuallyjesus's burial cloth, but that's
what they would say.
They would say it's a 14thcentury forgery, but all the
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evidence for it backs it up andsays now they've actually went
back and restudied it.
So okay, last thing and I'llshut it.
This is one of the things thatconvinced me.
Whenever they did the originalstudy, they took a.
You heard of carbon dating,right?
Yeah, where they go back, theytest the material and see what
period it's from.
We do it with a lot of differentthings.
It's not a perfect science, butgenerally it's believed to be
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fairly accurate within at leasta few decades to 100 years or so
With this know, at least a fewdecades to a hundred years or so
with this one.
When they originally did it,they took off a piece of the
corner and they were supposed tosend it off to, I believe,
seven, seven different labs andthey were all supposed to test
it independently and then makesure that they all lined up with
the same answer.
That way you would know that,hey, if seven different people
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test at seven differentlocations in the exact same way
and they all get the same answer, we can be pretty confident.
Yeah, that's what they weresupposed to do.
Problem is they took a partthat they knew had been repaired
like a part that had since didhappen, since it was originally
made had been torn off, and theyjust repaired it with something
else in the past.
So why, one, why would you takethat part?
Because you know it's going todate later than the rest of it.
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Two, instead of sending it toseven labs, they sent it pretty
much all to one lab.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And that one lab came back and said, yeah, it's yada,
yada.
And then, literally last year,they came back and said no, it's
actually dating back to firstcentury, like Jerusalem.
Wow, it's got all thebloodstains, it's got radiation
that can't be explained in firstcentury Jerusalem, like where
do they get this kind ofradiation stuff like that?
It's just, it's wild.
So they have Jesus' DNA.
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Yeah, I believe so.
I mean, I wouldn't risk my life.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Well then, would the blood be living.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I wouldn't risk my life on it, but I would say I
have a fairly high confidence init, that's honestly.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
if that does come out to be like I'm talking like
solid concrete, likeindisputable amongst all major
scholars.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
They're starting to do that now.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
That's what I'm saying.
Once it gets to the point, youknow how it used to be some of
the biblical evidence weprobably should do a whole
episode.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I'll just come prepared with all the facts one
day.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
It's just how we've gotten to the point now where we
can answer a lot of these hardtopic questions.
It's like no, now all'llscholar, Because it used to be
like, well, Jesus wasn't even ahistorical figure.
And now we're to the pointwhere it's like no it's 100%
like he was a historical figure.
It's just a matter of how doyou want to interpret it.
Yeah, how do you want tointerpret it?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Whether he was God or not is still up to debate,
which I think one question on myend that I'd love to ask God.
This is a little bit headingoff the shroud and just a bit
more of a serious direction I'dlove to ask God about division,
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multiplication and division.
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Why did you make it so?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
hard.
Why did you make math so hardand why did you make math so?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
hard, and why did I have to repeat the third grade
five times?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Why did dad scream at me?
Because I couldn't do nineminus one.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yes, in addition to that, see what I did there.
Anyways, hey, you got PapaBlake, so give me something.
You're okay If you can do PapaBlake.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I can make a math joke.
My math joke, yours was onpurpose.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
My math joke works.
Why are there so manydenominations, three branches of
Christianity broadlyCatholicism, orthodox and
Protestant and countlesssplinters throughout time,
throughout history?
So many different groups, somany different denominations.
Time throughout history, somany different groups, so many
different denominations.
And I understand.
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On the human end, hey, we'resinful, we are selfish, we are
all the things on the human end.
But that does affect ourlegitimacy.
It does affect oureffectiveness when we evangelize
, because wouldn't God want tokeep one main group throughout
time?
This is where Catholics wouldsay he has the Catholic church.
But you get what I mean.
And on God's end, why did heallow so much division as we go
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forward and we're trying to tellpeople about Jesus, what if his
response back to you is like Iliterally told you to be of one
mind and one accord.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So you tell me, nate, why?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
weren't you?
So again, I understand thehuman side.
Again, we're selfish and we areignorant and all the rest.
I get why we can splinterthings endlessly.
But maybe God, supernaturally,maybe limit the amount of
options, denominations andgroups to where it's a little
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bit more effective when we goout and evangelize.
You don't have so manydifferent groups people can
point to, so I'm just curious,like going back to the carbon
dating thing.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I want to know dinosaurs, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Off in that direction .
What about dinosaurs, were?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
they real?
No, no better question Will Iown my own dinosaur in heaven?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
That would be great If I could ride a triceratops in
heaven.
That's pretty balling, yeah,hey, I have a related question
about animals.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yes, why can't we talk to dogs?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I talk.
I used to talk to my dog allthe time.
Why can't our dogs talk to us?
They talk all the time to us.
They talk all the time to us.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Why can't we understand each other?
I want to understand whatArchie is saying.
Now we're getting to the rootof the problem.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I feel like and I'm not original to this that their
speech wouldn't be asinteresting as we think it would
be.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It would probably be annoying Food, food, food
Bathroom, bathroom, bathroomHungry Intruder Squirrel.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Squirrel, I'm going to take a dump right here, right
now.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I have a feeling that's what it would sound like,
but will it be like Narnia inheaven, where the animals can
speak, where we get to talk toanimals.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I imagine there will be some greater level of
communication.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
There's a talking donkey in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh true, and a snake and a talking snake.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah.
What do you guys say about that?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I think that's pretty cool.
Not the snake part, the donkeypart.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Wait, are animals in heaven?
Yes, okay, I dropped.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I've heard different answers.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So, justin, we have just been talking about Dude.
He just appeared, I know,hopping in, it's like a sound
effect of like some likewhooshing.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Yes, please, I will do that, we'll reenact here.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Hang on, here's the cut part.
Okay, whishing sound wishing.
Now we're all going to act.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Really surprised whoa , justin, whoa it's me, it's the
me, the topic is questions youwould like to ask God.
Anything come to mind why dogiant centipedes exist?
(21:48):
Is that supposed to instill thefear of God in me?
Because I'm afraid.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Okay, when did you encounter a giant centipede?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I've not encountered one myself, but look at Coyote
Peterson, he's got some of them.
Yeah, that's awful.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That's terrible, that's horrible.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Giant centipedes.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, there are giant spiders in Australia Giant
whole bunches of things.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Why Australia?
Why that's it?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Why Australia?
I am so sorry to all of ourAustralian listeners.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
America, I'm going to make you guys so incredibly
blessed, but Australiaeverything deadly.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Good luck, dead.
You're going to meet me realquick.
That's because that's where theGarden of Eden originally was.
Boom, boom, checkmate Atheist.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
That's because that's where the Garden of Eden
originally was.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That's why it's impossible to live there.
We just gotta find the flamingsword Before it finds us.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, you weren't here for that.
We talked about the Garden ofEden.
We could find it Because youknow you got that flaming sword.
It's guarding it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm pretty sure.
According to the Mormons, it'sin Jackson County, missouri, so
get your facts straight.
That's true, jackson County,missouri.
So get your facts straight.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's true, so all right, Questions Blake.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, this might be, I don't know.
I want to ask God, is therelike first off?
Yes, why.
Is Calvinism true in the senseof the elect?
Are there really people likeare there really people who just
can never or will never acceptthe gospel?
Or was there some way that wecould have phrased the gospel
(23:19):
that just like it was, like nota magic way to say it, but is
there like, what's the mostpowerful way to give the gospel
that would convince anybody?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So you're wondering about the whole Calvinism free
will, predestination debate.
Yeah, how would.
When God describes it, howwould?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
he explain it First off.
I think he'd just go Like that,like you just go well he might
point to the Bible.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Would it be one of those?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
things that we would just know when we got there.
Is that going to be a questionwe even have to ask?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Ooh, that's a great.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
that's an even better question.
What if the question we ask Godis like why did you not kill us
sooner?
Like because we're just like in.
So, in reverence of hisholiness?
Probably yeah.
Honestly, I you don't even needto ask much questions once you
get there, yeah, it's like, whywas it spaghetti and meatballs,
not meatball and spaghetti?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh, that's a good one .
Speaker 4 (24:03):
It's like Jesus.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yes, Jesus will be our answer To your question,
though if there was a magic— Idon't like saying the word magic
.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I don't like the word magic, but there was— what's
the best way to present thegospel?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
that there's just— I would imagine we would find it
somewhere in the Gospels, I mean, if anyone was going to have it
it would be Jesus right?
I would assume that.
But even people didn't believein Jesus.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Exactly Jesus taught, and it didn't persuade everyone
.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
So yeah, it might just be one of those questions
where it's like In Matthew 28,.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
one of the parts that question has no meaning.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Imagine he hits you with the Nate answer.
I would literally lose it, ohLord.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I would be like why did you make Nate?
Why, why?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
A lot of people have wondered that why did you make
Nate the way you did?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yes, and off of Matthew 28,.
The part of the verse thatblows my mind is that when
people saw Jesus resurrected,some people still didn't believe
.
Yeah, Jesus resurrected.
Some people still didn'tbelieve and they saw him Like
you are looking at living Jesusand some of them still doubted.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
But then there's that part in that Matthew story
where he's literally walking onthe road with two guys, and it
wasn't until and they didn'tnotice who it was.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, until he left.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And it was like but there's that thing where it's
like the veil, that veil, untilthat veil is torn.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I think the little bit of a difference there is,
one they acknowledge thatwhoever they were walking with
is human and alive.
They just didn't recognizeJesus.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Jesus until he had.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
In Matthew 28, when he's appearing to people, they
know oh, that's Jesus.
And some people were like nahbro, that's not him.
So that just blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
To be fair, your grandmother passed away.
If your grandmother, like you,go home tonight and she's
sitting in your living roomknitting or whatever she did,
would you go oh, that's grandma.
Or would you be like I'm goingto get out of this house right
now?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm going to, yeah, call an exorcist.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, okay, but however,
that's not the same thing,because what if his grandma,
before she died, said I will beback in three days, I will be
resurrected, like if she keptproclaiming this throughout her
life, and then she did it andthen he's already like still, I
would be like, hey, well, youdid it, good job.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
And honestly like, yeah, because we know the gospel
, like we're like oh yeah, thatmakes sense.
But I mean like if it actually,if that actually happened no,
I'd be freaking out.
Yeah, I'm saying freak out likefirst off, I'll be like, well,
that was true.
Yeah, I would really bequestioning reality.
I really would.
I'd be like there's no way,that just happened.
I really would like I've just,I think, an honest reaction be
like if that's real, like Iwould really have to check and
see if I'm awake, because that'sjust crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, you know, Thomas had those thoughts and he
was able to.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
He's like I want to poke my hand through your hand.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's a different type of hand holding.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Yeah, Jesus, how would you hold my hand if you
still had a hole in there?
If God holds the world in hishand and there's a hole there,
do we fall through?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Asking the deep questions no.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I want an answer from God directly and I want it to
not be Nate's answer of what wasthe universe expanding into?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Can you make a square circle?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Well, the answer to that was no.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
No, the answer is not even no.
Those questions have no meaning, they're not even valid
questions.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
The universe is expanding.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It has to be expanding into something.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It just can't be expanding into nothing, no see,
that's the thing Nate's all highand mighty right now but when
we get to God and we bring Nateup to him like God, we got a
question.
We want Nate to hear you say it.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I can't wait.
God's going to be like likedoing that.
He's like oh, just wait, boomyes.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Justin, your questions have no meaning.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
These are very Buddhist-esque questions, so I
think we should like, forexample, what is the sound of
one hand clapping?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We should ask that stuff to god.
Do that, though.
Can anyone hear it, you?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
want to ask god zen kawans, what was, what was some
of the other ones you told usabout class?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
what?
How can you be the buddha?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
kill the buddha not that one, just there was another
one that was like absolutenonsense there were several.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That way I don't have them off the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Oh, serious one.
I would ask God who is on theDiddy party list.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Oh my gosh, Because they're just refusing to release
it.
Well, you'll know by who's notthere.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Oh, I didn't think of that.
Yeah, oh, that's a really goodquestion.
The.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Diddy list, the Epstein list.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
When we get to heaven , and I don't know if this has
got it's like I guess.
I don't know how we would askGod I guess, just to make it
make sense for the ones whodidn't make it.
Do we mourn their loss whenwe're in heaven or are we just
like when I ask, like, how doesGod?
Like I guess it's like God.
How is it that I'm not?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
those are.
Is it funny that people willspend an eternity apart from God
?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I don't know why I pictured you about Sarah Dewey
just rejoicing.
I was like dang go.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Stay in hell, baby.
Woo-hoo, we up here, we made it.
So there are a couple thoughtsthere, blake, because that's a
great question.
Some of the points are this Onethere will be this
understanding that what's beendone, god is just and so resting
(29:26):
that if God makes that decision, he's the perfect and righteous
judge.
There is peace there and what'sdone is done.
And there is another optionthat I sometimes hear, where our
memory will be changed and wemay or may not remember certain
(29:46):
people, certain things, certainaspects of our earthly life,
even if we'll remember otherthings.
Wow, so, anyways, just a coupleof things people have said,
zeke.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I want to add on to that.
I think this is just a theory,but I have some scripture to
back it up.
Nate, you can quote the verseand whatever, since you're smart
, but the verse where it talksabout oh, it's the one CS Lewis
talks about.
In the weight of glory, likewill we become a new creation.
You know the verse I'm speakingon 2 Corinthians 5.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
See what I mean?
What a thing.
Well, I'm not going to take anycredit for that, because that
was a script.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I didn't think you wrote it.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
That was our scripture passage for today,
that we just read to thecongregation yeah, we just read
that.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So, anyways, that's not me being smart, it's just
God is just working right now Ifyou're an atheist?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
listening to this podcast like get a life.
You hear how God's like workingright now.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
That's one way of phrasing it.
We want you to find your lifein Jesus.
Get I want you to find yourlife in Jesus, get a better life
.
Get a better life,betterhelpcom.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Anywho.
So back to my point is youmight have kind of said it at
the start of your whole spielwhatever.
If we're going to be a newcreation, we're going to know
each other better than we everdid on Earth, but we'll also see
(31:05):
each other as we truly are,meaning that if we're a new
creation, we're going to seeeach other as like like right
now.
If I get mad at Blake, it'sbecause I see Blake as a human
and I'm frustrated with him andhe's dumb.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
But that happens.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I don't want to see him as, like, the image bearer
of God, created for divinepurposes, et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah Well, I think it couldalso be the reverse side of like
we'll also see the people whonever became what they were
meant to be, as image bearers ofGod, and I don't know.
Ultimate answer is I don't know, but I feel like there's going
(31:31):
to be a different shift ofperspective, kind of like you
were saying and then two.
I think of it in terms of likea normal book like Harry Potter,
like do you ever ask thequestion like well, why didn't
Voldemort end up in, not heaven?
In that book he's like well,why didn't Voldemort end up
there?
Well, voldemort was evil.
(31:51):
It's easy whenever we see likeobvious evil, like the
Voldemorts, but it's like Ithink we'll actually have a
better view of like how trulyevil we were and other people
were, even the ones who didn't,how truly evil.
we were and other people were,even the ones who didn't yeah
we'll have a true understanding.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
It'll be like that divine understanding of evil,
not just our human.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I don't know, maybe that's just theory.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Good thoughts A game theory A game.
This isn't a question I wouldask God.
But this is kind of a questionI've always pondered, and the
reason why I'm bringing it up isI recently saw a video of an
old lady who had the samequestion.
But we have all of eternity toget to know God.
Right, does God just drop allthat knowledge on us, or is it
(32:30):
like one day he revealssomething about himself?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Think about Adam and Eve.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Did they?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
know when they were first made.
Did they know everything aboutGod?
I?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
don't think so.
No, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So I imagine we'll enjoy the journey.
No, yeah, no, so I imaginewe'll enjoy the journey.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
We'll enjoy the journey.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I know we'll enjoy the journey.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
It's just insane to like when he reveals like that
thing to us.
It's like will we forget it oris it like will we remember.
So like one, how the old ladyput it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
She's like I picture, like God reveals one aspect
about himself I know the nextday, yeah, and then the next day
he reveals another aspect.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
It's like you have all of eternity to get to know
an eternal god, so like I don'tknow if he'll be as like
straightforward as one per day.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, obviously.
Well, she wasn't even sayingthat it's like he'll reveal one
yeah, progressively praise himfor it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, and he will reveal another thing and we'll
praise him for it.
Yeah, I guess that's theconcept.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Like we're going to be praising him for all of
eternity.
So it's like would I ever runout of things to praise him
about?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
No, no, and it's just like yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
The concept of an eternal God.
I guess I would ask God likewhat is eternity?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, and then he kicks me to hell, Get out of
here.
I mean, you gotta think aboutthat.
Will there even be days per se?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Will there be a new heaven and a new earth?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
But will time work the same way?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
That's a good question.
Are we going to be bound bytime again?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
There are certain things I'm not sure, so darkness
will be gone.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
So we won't have the night sky.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Chloe's going to cry.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I've always thought that stars were very beautiful,
so I hope there were stars inheaven.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I wonder if we'll get to go into space, if there will
be a heavenly SpaceX and thenwe can just go explore the
universe.
I wonder if I'll still beafraid of heights.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I said do we get to sleep still?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I imagine so, because there's nothing sinful about
sleeping.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
But do we need rest?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
You don't even sleep, though There'll be food in
heaven.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
You will recharge Plug you into a wall.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Stay there for about eight hours.
You will be given an eternalbattery.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Just imagine.
I think it's going to be foryou in heaven.
It's going to be instantcharging.
Think it's going to be for youin heaven.
It's going to be like instantcharging, because it's going to
be that good.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Insta-charge.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
That power source will be that good baby, yes, I
like the stars.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
They'll still be there.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
But if it's not going to be stars there's no night,
there's nothing sinful.
If there's no night, then howis there stars?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
We can't see the stars.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Go outside right now.
It's still going to be theuniverse.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Go outside right now and point at a star.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
How do you define night, new heavens and new earth
?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Wait, there's still going to be the universe, if he
pointed in any direction up, itwould hit a star somewhere.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Checkmate atheists Along these same lines with how
big are universe and galaxiesand all these things.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
It's not expanding into anything.
Is there any?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
other life out there.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Are there aliens?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Aliens Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
That's a good question.
If there were, did they get?
Did Jesus come to their planetstoo?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Alien Jesus.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Well, yeah, you could phrase it that way.
We're called aliens andstrangers.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
The Bible talks about earth.
Oh okay, that's a different one.
So is it just us, or are thereother things out there?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That's a great question.
Answer it.
That wouldn't like a.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Y'all.
These are questions we'retrying to ask God one day, and
y'all keep trying to get me toanswer them.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
It's called a rhetorical question, aren't you
and him like?
This no, oh, you're not, you'renot.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
You sure do act like it.
So I do not know the mind ofGod, blake, y'all are trying to
get me killed from blasphemy.
Y'all are, like you know, inthe Bible, king Herod.
When he was given the speechand they were like, oh, he has
the voice of a god and he wasvery prideful, and then he died
from the inside because, anywaysit's in the.
Bible.
He was eaten from the inside,but, regardless, go check it out
(36:26):
.
That's what y'all are trying toget to happen to me.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
No, not at all no.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
So I don't know the mind of God.
I think these are greatquestions.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I think it's a great question as well.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Justin, do you?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
have more questions.
You joined late.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Justin, you're having a good time over there.
Just what you said.
Harry Casby said I think that'sdysentery.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I didn't say it was.
I was like is it dysentery?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'll let y'all read the passage.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Harry doodled himself to death.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Justin, what a crappy way to go Time out You're going
to hive.
Hive him for that but I did mymath joke about in addition to
that stuff together all the timewhen I do his level.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Never have this bond.
You will never.
When I you need to give me ahigh five in addition to that.
We were talking about that justto tell you a tiny bit of the
mind and his humor.
We were in drive the drive-thruat Taco Bell one time and the
lady said your total is $11.99.
And Blake went, never forget,and I died laughing.
(37:30):
So me and him laugh at reallystupid stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yes.
And that was the joke.
It was like never forget, oh mygoodness, $11.99.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
All right, y'all.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Any other questions we would like to ask God?
Anything come to mind.
Who's the goat in basketball?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Michael.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Jordan or.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
LeBron, I can already answer that, lebron.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
What if basketball is going to keep existing after we
die supposedly?
What if there's another goat?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
after LeBron what if we haven't even witnessed the
goat?
There's nothing after LeBron.
There's no meaning to life.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Now that I think about it, it's probably Luka,
hey Luka.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
After he left.
Yeah, after he left Mavericks,mavericks organization.
Yuck dude, yucky nasty.
That's when he really startedgoing off, yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Now he's the LeDon the.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
LaDawn.
Yes, Chloe, any questions you'dlike to ask?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
No PT-related questions.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Why did you make the human?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
body so complicated.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
No, that's true.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
Hey, I'm studying psychologyright now.
The brain is wild.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
It's actually quite crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Oh dude.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
It's wild, I'm also studying the brain right now.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
A lot of good questions and one day we'll get
to ask them.
Maybe, or, as some people think, when we get to heaven, all the
things we thought we would door we would say might just
disappear when we're before God.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
So we'll see, maybe we'll ask, maybe we won't.
Will heaven just be like IRLMinecraft If it?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
is bro, I'm going off , I'm cooking, I'm cooking bro,
I get to fight the Ender Dragonwith Jesus.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Dude me and you get to go cave diving.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Hold on, but is it in survival mode?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, like do you get to respawn, but you just lose
your inventory.
Yes, creative's lame bro.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
So you want to do survival?
Yes, so giant inventory yes,creatives are lame bro.
So you want to do survival?
Yes, so giant spiders, yes Well.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I mean if it can never really die.
I mean, if we're alive.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
During Revelations we get to see the giant locusts.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Why not a giant spider yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
True, that True.
I didn't think of that yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Checkmate atheist Checkmate.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
You get to have a pig .
Oh wait, you were in servicetoday, so did you hear the Papa
Blake stuff?
I did.
You missed us making fun of you.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It was great, you put yourself in a nice little trap.
The second Nate started walkingup there.
I was like, oh, I know he'sgoing to say something.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yes.
Thank you, Papa Blake.
I just wanted to get off thestage at that point.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
You want to crawl?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
into a box.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
All right point.
You want to crawl into a ball?
All right, I was just waitingfor the lightning bolt.
That was quite the conversation.
Would anyone like to take?
Us home justin, you came inlate.
I feel like you gotta gottasign us off um, um, yeah, great,
start go off.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
No, no, hang on let him cook, you're good yeah why
don't you tell us a Wagyu story?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
That's a great way A Wagyu story to go off, yeah just
a Wagyu story.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
End us with a.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Wagyu story.
Oh, I'll just end with this,okay.
So word to the wise If you havea milkshake, make sure that you
don't fall asleep before youdrink it all, or your cats will
rip open the cup, drink it andthen diarrhea everywhere.
God bless, have a good night.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
I haven't heard that one.
That's true.
Is it true?
No, I believe you.
I just haven't heard it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Dude, when did this happen?
Yesterday?
This week was it Friday.
Yeah, I probably was Fridaynight morning.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yes, I have a rough day, so that's how my day
started, thank you,
This is the Dangerous Faith Podcast.
My name is Nate Williams.
With me we have Zeke, chloeBlake and Justin, I hated that.
Very thankful for everyonejoining us today.
And what are y'all talkingabout?
He goes yo.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It just reminds me of this TikTok.
I saw where it's, this boy bandcalled no Lonely Hearts, and
they're dancing, and he goes ohhey, there I'm Aiden.
And then they go down the lineand it's just so stupid, I hated
it.
And so when he goes line andit's just so stupid, I hated it
and somebody goes, yo ew dude.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Go away.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'm sorry, papa Blake , no so we will be referring to
Blake as Papa Blake today.
Blake, do you want to tell thestory behind Papa Blake?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, I was just up there giving the church
announcements in front of ourwhole congregation and I started
freestyling, instead juststicking to the script, and uh
called myself papa blake allright, and so he has given
himself a new name you couldhave called yourself daddy blake
or something like that, and itcould have been way worse I
think, papa blake's pretty badit's pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I don't know I think daddy blake is not as bad as it
could have been papa blake, wewould have made it work.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But anyways anyways, moving on, our topic for today
is if you could ask god aquestion, what would it be and I
know late night conversations,oh, what would you ask j?
What would it be?
And I know late nightconversations.
What would you ask Jesus?
What would you ask God?
That can be a topic ofconversation, and so that's what
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we'll cover for today.
So it can be serious, as weknow, talking about death and
sin, addiction, disease.
It can get serious or it can bemore lighthearted and fun,
wherever y'all want to go withit.
But I'll open it up If you askGod a question.
All right, papa Blake, why didhe let?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
me call myself Papa Blake.
Why didn't he?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
just stop me.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Why did?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
God in his sovereignty not prevent you from
saying that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I don't know.
Pride comes before the falldude.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So we can ask God in heaven that yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yep, what else?
Oh, like a real seriousquestion.
Actually, I would love to askGod why he didn't mention any
part of Jesus's youth other thanbeing left at the temple, like
if he was just a carpenter andhe was just learning, like I
would have loved to known, likewhy that was left out.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, I have the same question.
Well, more specifically, notwhy they didn't leave it in the
scripture, but why, like whatwas it?
Yeah, I'm curious, like whatwould have been like to be his
brother, like your mom's alwayslike, just be more like your
brother jesus, like I can't,it's impossible.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
He's literally god well, there are some books that
have some details of Jesus' life.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
There's Apocryphal, oh, like the Gospel of Thomas,
yeah where he kills somebody.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We actually had a.
The sermon today was on theteenage years of Jesus.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Really Well that one scripture that you're talking
about.
It was literally on that it wasleft at the temple.
Just that being left at thetemple.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That was Nate's children's time today.
Yeah, pretty good how that alllines up.
We have in our sanctuary one ofthe stained glass windows.
Is of that episode, of thatpassage.
So pretty good, all right.
So, zeke.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Do you think, going back to his childhood, our
teenage years, did it?
Well, it's probably theirculture.
Probably wasn't like ours, soyou may can actually answer this
, but was there ever a timewhere, like someone would have
been romantically interested inJesus and like he had to like
let them down easy, like no?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That is interesting.
How would he handle femaleinterest?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yes, you know it's really interesting.
Going back to the brother thing, I don't even think, because
there's a lot of scripture, likewe went through in Mark,
because you know his familycomes and he's like who's my?
Mother who, like we wentthrough it in Mark because you
know his family comes and he'slike who's my mother, who's my
brother, who's my sister, likeit's it's a safe assumption to
believe that.
Well, no, it's not a safeassumption, it's actually in
scripture.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Like they don't they didn't believe that Jesus was
who he says he was.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
James didn't believe he was the Messiah until after
he rose again, so I wonder whatthat would have's like.
He's just a really good person.
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
His mom understood at least some part of it, right?
Like she didn't know everything, obviously, but there's a sense
in which she knew, obviously,like you read the um infancy
story and like she literally hasbeen told by an angel like hey,
you're going to be a virginconceive and he's going to be
the son of god, etc.
Etc.
But like, I'm sure, all theminor details.
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She's like I'm so confused,like back to the teenage thing
of like they leave for a day andlike ross, he's gone and come
back like jesus, what are youdoing?
And he's like I'm literally inmy father's house.
Do you not understand?
She's like no, I don'tunderstand.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I wonder if there were times with mary and j and
Joseph where he has an answerlike that and they're like don't
talk back to us, but for him,it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Anyways, very interesting, but Zeke, what's a
virgin?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'll let Papa Blake explain that one.
Oh no.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Papa.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Blake.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Do you want me to describe it in like the
proto-evangelical James?
I can't say that word.
You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, Anyways, off of that, I do wonder when it comes
to that topic did.
Mary and Joseph have to givethe birds and the bee.
Talk to Jesus, or did he justknow?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
That's interesting.
Why would they?
It's not like he would ever.
Even if he didn't know, whywould he ever need it?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, I'm not sure if they knew he'd ever get married
.
They didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
No, because Jesus would have definitely struggled
with that because he's like weread in scripture he was tempted
with everything that we wouldhave been tempted with.
So Jesus definitely would havestruggled with lust.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
How do we?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Well, he didn't succumb to it, but he would have
that temptation.
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I have is what's the fine line between being tempted
and like?
I know the part where you givein to it but like, what's that?
What's the difference between?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
What is?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
that vague area in between.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
I know what you mean, jesus canbe tempted, but he never sinned
.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, where does it go from not being sent to a sin?
It's not a sin to be tempted,but then you are responsible for
your response.
So your thoughts and youractions, your words, after the
temptation, they count.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
So picture like an 18-year-old Jesus.
He's walking down the roadright and a girl shows a little
bit of ankle Scandalous.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Scandalous right.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Jesus wouldn't even give it another thought, Whereas
we would have been like there'sa leg attached to that ankle.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
And there's more attached to the leg.
There's more attached to thatleg.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And there's a foot if you go southward.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
There's so many places you can go, Anyways.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
so yes, all those interesting conversations.
I have no idea the answer tosome of these questions, but,
yes, what was that?
Like Jesus's teenage years,blake.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Another question this might've been answered, but I
want to.
I asked it when I was readingthrough Exodus.
There's a moment in Exoduswhere God is going to kill Moses
for some reason.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Exodus 14.
Yeah, and he just glances rightover it.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, I want to know like what did Moses do that made
God so mad he was going to likekill Moses.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Circumcision.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Was that?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
it.
That was it, no way.
And so Moses, funny enough, offour sermon today.
He had to get the snip, snip.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And he just refused, and that's why God was like
Either refused or he didn't knowabout the requirements.
And so God was just going tokill him.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Anyways, I'm very thankful that did not happen.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, me too.
Yes, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It would have been tough for my Jewish people.
How did you?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
figure it out.
Did you just study that?
Where did?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
you find that?
Where did you find the answer?
It's in Exodus.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So it's in Exodus, yeah, because we talked about
this before and you're like Ihave no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I promise you, we talked about this.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I think we've talked about circumcision before.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
We have talked about circumcision, but I was talking
about the event that-.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And I told you, blake , you don't need to go forward
with it, because we're covered,I'm already circumcised, we're
covered.
Paul talks about it's notnecessary for salvation.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, I told my parents that.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They didn't hear me out when you were born or later
in life, what year was this?
Was this like last year 1999.
Anyways, okay, where are we.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, what questions do you have, chloe?
What other questions do you?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
have Questions you would like to ask God.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Okay, well, mine's more goofy and it's kind of
funny that this is the topic,because I was literally just
talking to a friend a few daysago about these crazy stories
that happened and in my life andjust like how I don't know the
cause and I was like man when Igo to heaven I'm going to ask
God like how did this happen?
Like I'll just give an exampleof one of them there was one
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time where and they bothinvolved my car, by the way A
few years ago I walked out to mycar, which was parked outside
of my parents' old house, and myentire back windshield was
completely shattered, like youcouldn't see a single centimeter
on my window.
And I have no idea how thathappened, like zero clue.
So, just like random thingslike that in my life that are
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completely random and goofy anddon't even matter in the long
run, but just like I just wantto know, like I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Oh, I'll share the other one.
The other one's a little moreweird.
It's also involved my car.
I was walking out to my car,parked outside of my parents'
old house, and there were twohot dogs sitting on my car and I
have no explanation Zero.
Maybe you were hungry.
No, they were just like theydidn't have the bun, or anything
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it was just the.
You know, maybe god wasdelivering you food no, it's
just the way it's like they fellout of the trees it's literally
like they fell out of the treesI'm glad you brought up manna.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So if god brought you manna so that you could survive
in the wilderness, would you belike?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I'm not eating this, or, in this case, two piping hot
oscar meyer wieners.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yes and I have to correct myself from earlier.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It was exodus four, so my bad, I was gonna say 14,
sounds like a little bit later,yeah so that's um.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That is fascinating and I bet god knows, just like
random things in life just likerandom things.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And then like.
Another one you can think of islike um, I was telling her
about this too was like on ourhoneymoon, when we were short
one dollar, like getting back toour cruise.
Like um, we were at the beachand we we had to pay to take the
bus back and we were short onedollar and like a dollar showed
up in the ocean, like I don'tthink that was coincidence but
like, yeah, that's essentiallywhat this was.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It boils down to like we ended up having we had to
give them cash because theydidn't take a card, and I had
happened to find the $1 that weneeded earlier in the day just
laying in the ocean.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
No, I found it or.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Chloe found it.
I found it in the sand.
A crab or something orsomething in the sand was
holding it.
Yeah, it's like god provided,like we didn't even pray about
it or anything.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
God just provided anyways yeah, hey god, I need a,
I need a dollar, and then ahomeless man would rob me.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'd be like, well, but the homeless man needed it
too, that's true, but I hadnothing to give anyways but the
other things.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I think my questions would just be like things like
um, where's like the Ark of theCovenant or like the Garden of
Eden or like Noah's.
Ark like where's all that?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
those are solid questions.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I've always because I'm reading through Genesis
right now like the flaming sword, like going and the Garden of
Eden.
I'm like dude, have we everfound that we've been
unstoppable?
Dude, like well, first off wecould never get near it.
But that I mean, how could youexplain that away?
There's literally a flamingsword, like just on patrol.
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You try to get near this gardenand it kills you Like checkmate
.
Atheist.
What are you going to say aboutthat?
Yeah, is it a hallucination?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Do you, if we found the Ark of the Covenant today,
would we die if we touched it?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, I would assume so.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Well, I mean it depends.
Does God's presence used todwell?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
in it right, Does it still?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
dwell in it, the same way that it doesn't dwell in
the temple anymore, because weare the temple.
If he took it up.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's interesting.
That's a great question.
Well, answer it for me.
These are questions you gottagot to ask God.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You're the closest thing we have here.
Don't say that.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Night is not God, don't say that I'm going to get
struck by a lightning bolt.
Aren't you like an apostle?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Technically.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yes, the.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Greek word for apostle means messenger, so
we're all messengers in thatpart.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But aren't you like the highest messengers?
No, stop it.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Anyways, that's a great question and I'd like to
know as well.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
My next question is next question, please.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Next question.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The Shroud of Turin.
Is it real?
I'm convinced it is but I wantto know for a fact Nate Is it?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
real.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I'm convinced it is, but I want to know for a fact.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Nate, so the shroud I find very interesting, but some
apologists they love to use it.
That's one of their go-tos.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
If it's real, it's a good go-to.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I agree.
Can you explain what this is?
Not that Blake doesn't know,but in case someone— I actually
don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So the shroud of Turin is believed to be the
burial cloth of jesus oh, I'veheard.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yes, never mind so they've done so.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
For those who aren't blake um and don't actually
don't know, is they've done somescientific studies on the
shroud itself, like it's beenkept in?
I think the vatican right no,yeah, I think it's.
It's in turin, something likethat anyways, the catholic
church has had um it for a longtime and they can date back to
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at least a few to 14th century.
The problem is that there'sthings about it that can't be
explained or replicated today,like some people have tried to
replicate this exact thing andthey can't do it in modern era.
So how do we?
And the atheist was like, well,it's a 14th century forgery,
okay, but if we can't forge itlike, we can't make another
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forgery today.
How did they do it in 14thcentury?
Some of the things that come upis like if you take a picture,
there's always a negative uhimage of it.
I don't I'm not super big inphotography, but I just know
that there's something weirdabout it where, when they took a
picture of it, there were thenegative is normally where the
negative looks weird and thenormal looks like it's supposed
to.
It's reverse.
That doesn't really happen withanything else.
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And then, two, they were ableto get a 3d image off of it and
that's what it looked like.
It's a picture of chloe's uhshowing blake, is it literally
looks like a man from firstcentury, uh, nazareth.
And this is a 14th century no,it's not.
I I believe it's actuallyjesus's burial cloth, but that's
what they would say.
They would say it's a 14thcentury forgery, but all the
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evidence for it backs it up andsays now they've actually went
back and restudied it.
So okay, last thing and I'llshut it.
This is one of the things thatconvinced me.
Whenever they did the originalstudy, they took a.
You heard of carbon dating,right?
Yeah, where they go back, theytest the material and see what
period it's from.
We do it with a lot of differentthings.
It's not a perfect science, butgenerally it's believed to be
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fairly accurate within at leasta few decades to 100 years or so
With this know, at least a fewdecades to a hundred years or so
with this one.
When they originally did it,they took off a piece of the
corner and they were supposed tosend it off to, I believe,
seven, seven different labs andthey were all supposed to test
it independently and then makesure that they all lined up with
the same answer.
That way you would know that,hey, if seven different people
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test at seven differentlocations in the exact same way
and they all get the same answer, we can be pretty confident.
Yeah, that's what they weresupposed to do.
Problem is they took a partthat they knew had been repaired
like a part that had since didhappen, since it was originally
made had been torn off, and theyjust repaired it with something
else in the past.
So why, one, why would you takethat part?
Because you know it's going todate later than the rest of it.
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Two, instead of sending it toseven labs, they sent it pretty
much all to one lab.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And that one lab came back and said, yeah, it's yada,
yada.
And then, literally last year,they came back and said no, it's
actually dating back to firstcentury, like Jerusalem.
Wow, it's got all thebloodstains, it's got radiation
that can't be explained in firstcentury Jerusalem, like where
do they get this kind ofradiation stuff like that?
It's just, it's wild.
So they have Jesus' DNA.
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Yeah, I believe so.
I mean, I wouldn't risk my life.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Well then, would the blood be living.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I wouldn't risk my life on it, but I would say I
have a fairly high confidence init, that's honestly.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
if that does come out to be like I'm talking like
solid concrete, likeindisputable amongst all major
scholars.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
They're starting to do that now.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
That's what I'm saying.
Once it gets to the point, youknow how it used to be some of
the biblical evidence weprobably should do a whole
episode.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I'll just come prepared with all the facts one
day.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
It's just how we've gotten to the point now where we
can answer a lot of these hardtopic questions.
It's like no, now all'llscholar, Because it used to be
like, well, Jesus wasn't even ahistorical figure.
And now we're to the pointwhere it's like no it's 100%
like he was a historical figure.
It's just a matter of how doyou want to interpret it.
Yeah, how do you want tointerpret it?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Whether he was God or not is still up to debate,
which I think one question on myend that I'd love to ask God.
This is a little bit headingoff the shroud and just a bit
more of a serious direction I'dlove to ask God about division,
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multiplication and division.
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Why did you make it so?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
hard.
Why did you make math so hardand why did you make math so?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
hard, and why did I have to repeat the third grade
five times?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Why did dad scream at me?
Because I couldn't do nineminus one.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yes, in addition to that, see what I did there.
Anyways, hey, you got PapaBlake, so give me something.
You're okay If you can do PapaBlake.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I can make a math joke.
My math joke, yours was onpurpose.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
My math joke works.
Why are there so manydenominations, three branches of
Christianity broadlyCatholicism, orthodox and
Protestant and countlesssplinters throughout time,
throughout history?
So many different groups, somany different denominations.
Time throughout history, somany different groups, so many
different denominations.
And I understand.
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On the human end, hey, we'resinful, we are selfish, we are
all the things on the human end.
But that does affect ourlegitimacy.
It does affect oureffectiveness when we evangelize
, because wouldn't God want tokeep one main group throughout
time?
This is where Catholics wouldsay he has the Catholic church.
But you get what I mean.
And on God's end, why did heallow so much division as we go
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forward and we're trying to tellpeople about Jesus, what if his
response back to you is like Iliterally told you to be of one
mind and one accord.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So you tell me, nate, why?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
weren't you?
So again, I understand thehuman side.
Again, we're selfish and we areignorant and all the rest.
I get why we can splinterthings endlessly.
But maybe God, supernaturally,maybe limit the amount of
options, denominations andgroups to where it's a little
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bit more effective when we goout and evangelize.
You don't have so manydifferent groups people can
point to, so I'm just curious,like going back to the carbon
dating thing.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I want to know dinosaurs, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Off in that direction .
What about dinosaurs, were?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
they real?
No, no better question Will Iown my own dinosaur in heaven?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
That would be great If I could ride a triceratops in
heaven.
That's pretty balling, yeah,hey, I have a related question
about animals.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yes, why can't we talk to dogs?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I talk.
I used to talk to my dog allthe time.
Why can't our dogs talk to us?
They talk all the time to us.
They talk all the time to us.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Why can't we understand each other?
I want to understand whatArchie is saying.
Now we're getting to the rootof the problem.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I feel like and I'm not original to this that their
speech wouldn't be asinteresting as we think it would
be.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It would probably be annoying Food, food, food
Bathroom, bathroom, bathroomHungry Intruder Squirrel.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Squirrel, I'm going to take a dump right here, right
now.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I have a feeling that's what it would sound like,
but will it be like Narnia inheaven, where the animals can
speak, where we get to talk toanimals.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I imagine there will be some greater level of
communication.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
There's a talking donkey in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh true, and a snake and a talking snake.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah.
What do you guys say about that?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I think that's pretty cool.
Not the snake part, the donkeypart.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Wait, are animals in heaven?
Yes, okay, I dropped.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I've heard different answers.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So, justin, we have just been talking about Dude.
He just appeared, I know,hopping in, it's like a sound
effect of like some likewhooshing.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Yes, please, I will do that, we'll reenact here.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Hang on, here's the cut part.
Okay, whishing sound wishing.
Now we're all going to act.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Really surprised whoa , justin, whoa it's me, it's the
me, the topic is questions youwould like to ask God.
Anything come to mind why dogiant centipedes exist?
(21:48):
Is that supposed to instill thefear of God in me?
Because I'm afraid.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Okay, when did you encounter a giant centipede?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I've not encountered one myself, but look at Coyote
Peterson, he's got some of them.
Yeah, that's awful.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That's terrible, that's horrible.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Giant centipedes.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, there are giant spiders in Australia Giant
whole bunches of things.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Why Australia?
Why that's it?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Why Australia?
I am so sorry to all of ourAustralian listeners.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
America, I'm going to make you guys so incredibly
blessed, but Australiaeverything deadly.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Good luck, dead.
You're going to meet me realquick.
That's because that's where theGarden of Eden originally was.
Boom, boom, checkmate Atheist.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
That's because that's where the Garden of Eden
originally was.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That's why it's impossible to live there.
We just gotta find the flamingsword Before it finds us.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, you weren't here for that.
We talked about the Garden ofEden.
We could find it Because youknow you got that flaming sword.
It's guarding it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm pretty sure.
According to the Mormons, it'sin Jackson County, missouri, so
get your facts straight.
That's true, jackson County,missouri.
So get your facts straight.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's true, so all right, Questions Blake.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, this might be, I don't know.
I want to ask God, is therelike first off?
Yes, why.
Is Calvinism true in the senseof the elect?
Are there really people likeare there really people who just
can never or will never acceptthe gospel?
Or was there some way that wecould have phrased the gospel
(23:19):
that just like it was, like nota magic way to say it, but is
there like, what's the mostpowerful way to give the gospel
that would convince anybody?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So you're wondering about the whole Calvinism free
will, predestination debate.
Yeah, how would.
When God describes it, howwould?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
he explain it First off.
I think he'd just go Like that,like you just go well he might
point to the Bible.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Would it be one of those?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
things that we would just know when we got there.
Is that going to be a questionwe even have to ask?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Ooh, that's a great.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
that's an even better question.
What if the question we ask Godis like why did you not kill us
sooner?
Like because we're just like in.
So, in reverence of hisholiness?
Probably yeah.
Honestly, I you don't even needto ask much questions once you
get there, yeah, it's like, whywas it spaghetti and meatballs,
not meatball and spaghetti?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh, that's a good one .
Speaker 4 (24:03):
It's like Jesus.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yes, Jesus will be our answer To your question,
though if there was a magic— Idon't like saying the word magic
.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I don't like the word magic, but there was— what's
the best way to present thegospel?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
that there's just— I would imagine we would find it
somewhere in the Gospels, I mean, if anyone was going to have it
it would be Jesus right?
I would assume that.
But even people didn't believein Jesus.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Exactly Jesus taught, and it didn't persuade everyone
.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
So yeah, it might just be one of those questions
where it's like In Matthew 28,.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
one of the parts that question has no meaning.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Imagine he hits you with the Nate answer.
I would literally lose it, ohLord.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I would be like why did you make Nate?
Why, why?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
A lot of people have wondered that why did you make
Nate the way you did?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yes, and off of Matthew 28,.
The part of the verse thatblows my mind is that when
people saw Jesus resurrected,some people still didn't believe
.
Yeah, Jesus resurrected.
Some people still didn'tbelieve and they saw him Like
you are looking at living Jesusand some of them still doubted.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
But then there's that part in that Matthew story
where he's literally walking onthe road with two guys, and it
wasn't until and they didn'tnotice who it was.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, until he left.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And it was like but there's that thing where it's
like the veil, that veil, untilthat veil is torn.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I think the little bit of a difference there is,
one they acknowledge thatwhoever they were walking with
is human and alive.
They just didn't recognizeJesus.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Jesus until he had.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
In Matthew 28, when he's appearing to people, they
know oh, that's Jesus.
And some people were like nahbro, that's not him.
So that just blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
To be fair, your grandmother passed away.
If your grandmother, like you,go home tonight and she's
sitting in your living roomknitting or whatever she did,
would you go oh, that's grandma.
Or would you be like I'm goingto get out of this house right
now?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm going to, yeah, call an exorcist.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, okay, but however,
that's not the same thing,because what if his grandma,
before she died, said I will beback in three days, I will be
resurrected, like if she keptproclaiming this throughout her
life, and then she did it andthen he's already like still, I
would be like, hey, well, youdid it, good job.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
And honestly like, yeah, because we know the gospel
, like we're like oh yeah, thatmakes sense.
But I mean like if it actually,if that actually happened no,
I'd be freaking out.
Yeah, I'm saying freak out likefirst off, I'll be like, well,
that was true.
Yeah, I would really bequestioning reality.
I really would.
I'd be like there's no way,that just happened.
I really would like I've just,I think, an honest reaction be
like if that's real, like Iwould really have to check and
see if I'm awake, because that'sjust crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, you know, Thomas had those thoughts and he
was able to.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
He's like I want to poke my hand through your hand.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's a different type of hand holding.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Yeah, Jesus, how would you hold my hand if you
still had a hole in there?
If God holds the world in hishand and there's a hole there,
do we fall through?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Asking the deep questions no.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I want an answer from God directly and I want it to
not be Nate's answer of what wasthe universe expanding into?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Can you make a square circle?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Well, the answer to that was no.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
No, the answer is not even no.
Those questions have no meaning, they're not even valid
questions.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
The universe is expanding.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It has to be expanding into something.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It just can't be expanding into nothing, no see,
that's the thing Nate's all highand mighty right now but when
we get to God and we bring Nateup to him like God, we got a
question.
We want Nate to hear you say it.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I can't wait.
God's going to be like likedoing that.
He's like oh, just wait, boomyes.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Justin, your questions have no meaning.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
These are very Buddhist-esque questions, so I
think we should like, forexample, what is the sound of
one hand clapping?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We should ask that stuff to god.
Do that, though.
Can anyone hear it, you?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
want to ask god zen kawans, what was, what was some
of the other ones you told usabout class?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
what?
How can you be the buddha?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
kill the buddha not that one, just there was another
one that was like absolutenonsense there were several.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That way I don't have them off the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Oh, serious one.
I would ask God who is on theDiddy party list.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Oh my gosh, Because they're just refusing to release
it.
Well, you'll know by who's notthere.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Oh, I didn't think of that.
Yeah, oh, that's a really goodquestion.
The.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Diddy list, the Epstein list.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
When we get to heaven , and I don't know if this has
got it's like I guess.
I don't know how we would askGod I guess, just to make it
make sense for the ones whodidn't make it.
Do we mourn their loss whenwe're in heaven or are we just
like when I ask, like, how doesGod?
Like I guess it's like God.
How is it that I'm not?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
those are.
Is it funny that people willspend an eternity apart from God
?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I don't know why I pictured you about Sarah Dewey
just rejoicing.
I was like dang go.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Stay in hell, baby.
Woo-hoo, we up here, we made it.
So there are a couple thoughtsthere, blake, because that's a
great question.
Some of the points are this Onethere will be this
understanding that what's beendone, god is just and so resting
(29:26):
that if God makes that decision, he's the perfect and righteous
judge.
There is peace there and what'sdone is done.
And there is another optionthat I sometimes hear, where our
memory will be changed and wemay or may not remember certain
(29:46):
people, certain things, certainaspects of our earthly life,
even if we'll remember otherthings.
Wow, so, anyways, just a coupleof things people have said,
zeke.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I want to add on to that.
I think this is just a theory,but I have some scripture to
back it up.
Nate, you can quote the verseand whatever, since you're smart
, but the verse where it talksabout oh, it's the one CS Lewis
talks about.
In the weight of glory, likewill we become a new creation.
You know the verse I'm speakingon 2 Corinthians 5.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
See what I mean?
What a thing.
Well, I'm not going to take anycredit for that, because that
was a script.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I didn't think you wrote it.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
That was our scripture passage for today,
that we just read to thecongregation yeah, we just read
that.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So, anyways, that's not me being smart, it's just
God is just working right now Ifyou're an atheist?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
listening to this podcast like get a life.
You hear how God's like workingright now.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
That's one way of phrasing it.
We want you to find your lifein Jesus.
Get I want you to find yourlife in Jesus, get a better life
.
Get a better life,betterhelpcom.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Anywho.
So back to my point is youmight have kind of said it at
the start of your whole spielwhatever.
If we're going to be a newcreation, we're going to know
each other better than we everdid on Earth, but we'll also see
(31:05):
each other as we truly are,meaning that if we're a new
creation, we're going to seeeach other as like like right
now.
If I get mad at Blake, it'sbecause I see Blake as a human
and I'm frustrated with him andhe's dumb.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
But that happens.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I don't want to see him as, like, the image bearer
of God, created for divinepurposes, et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah Well, I think it couldalso be the reverse side of like
we'll also see the people whonever became what they were
meant to be, as image bearers ofGod, and I don't know.
Ultimate answer is I don't know, but I feel like there's going
(31:31):
to be a different shift ofperspective, kind of like you
were saying and then two.
I think of it in terms of likea normal book like Harry Potter,
like do you ever ask thequestion like well, why didn't
Voldemort end up in, not heaven?
In that book he's like well,why didn't Voldemort end up
there?
Well, voldemort was evil.
(31:51):
It's easy whenever we see likeobvious evil, like the
Voldemorts, but it's like Ithink we'll actually have a
better view of like how trulyevil we were and other people
were, even the ones who didn't,how truly evil.
we were and other people were,even the ones who didn't yeah
we'll have a true understanding.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
It'll be like that divine understanding of evil,
not just our human.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I don't know, maybe that's just theory.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Good thoughts A game theory A game.
This isn't a question I wouldask God.
But this is kind of a questionI've always pondered, and the
reason why I'm bringing it up isI recently saw a video of an
old lady who had the samequestion.
But we have all of eternity toget to know God.
Right, does God just drop allthat knowledge on us, or is it
(32:30):
like one day he revealssomething about himself?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Think about Adam and Eve.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Did they?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
know when they were first made.
Did they know everything aboutGod?
I?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
don't think so.
No, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So I imagine we'll enjoy the journey.
No, yeah, no, so I imaginewe'll enjoy the journey.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
We'll enjoy the journey.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I know we'll enjoy the journey.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
It's just insane to like when he reveals like that
thing to us.
It's like will we forget it oris it like will we remember.
So like one, how the old ladyput it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
She's like I picture, like God reveals one aspect
about himself I know the nextday, yeah, and then the next day
he reveals another aspect.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
It's like you have all of eternity to get to know
an eternal god, so like I don'tknow if he'll be as like
straightforward as one per day.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, obviously.
Well, she wasn't even sayingthat it's like he'll reveal one
yeah, progressively praise himfor it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, and he will reveal another thing and we'll
praise him for it.
Yeah, I guess that's theconcept.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Like we're going to be praising him for all of
eternity.
So it's like would I ever runout of things to praise him
about?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
No, no, and it's just like yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
The concept of an eternal God.
I guess I would ask God likewhat is eternity?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, and then he kicks me to hell, Get out of
here.
I mean, you gotta think aboutthat.
Will there even be days per se?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Will there be a new heaven and a new earth?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
But will time work the same way?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
That's a good question.
Are we going to be bound bytime again?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
There are certain things I'm not sure, so darkness
will be gone.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
So we won't have the night sky.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Chloe's going to cry.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I've always thought that stars were very beautiful,
so I hope there were stars inheaven.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I wonder if we'll get to go into space, if there will
be a heavenly SpaceX and thenwe can just go explore the
universe.
I wonder if I'll still beafraid of heights.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I said do we get to sleep still?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I imagine so, because there's nothing sinful about
sleeping.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
But do we need rest?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
You don't even sleep, though There'll be food in
heaven.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
You will recharge Plug you into a wall.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Stay there for about eight hours.
You will be given an eternalbattery.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Just imagine.
I think it's going to be foryou in heaven.
It's going to be instantcharging.
Think it's going to be for youin heaven.
It's going to be like instantcharging, because it's going to
be that good.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Insta-charge.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
That power source will be that good baby, yes, I
like the stars.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
They'll still be there.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
But if it's not going to be stars there's no night,
there's nothing sinful.
If there's no night, then howis there stars?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
We can't see the stars.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Go outside right now.
It's still going to be theuniverse.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Go outside right now and point at a star.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
How do you define night, new heavens and new earth
?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Wait, there's still going to be the universe, if he
pointed in any direction up, itwould hit a star somewhere.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Checkmate atheists Along these same lines with how
big are universe and galaxiesand all these things.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
It's not expanding into anything.
Is there any?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
other life out there.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Are there aliens?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Aliens Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
That's a good question.
If there were, did they get?
Did Jesus come to their planetstoo?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Alien Jesus.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Well, yeah, you could phrase it that way.
We're called aliens andstrangers.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
The Bible talks about earth.
Oh okay, that's a different one.
So is it just us, or are thereother things out there?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That's a great question.
Answer it.
That wouldn't like a.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Y'all.
These are questions we'retrying to ask God one day, and
y'all keep trying to get me toanswer them.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
It's called a rhetorical question, aren't you
and him like?
This no, oh, you're not, you'renot.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
You sure do act like it.
So I do not know the mind ofGod, blake, y'all are trying to
get me killed from blasphemy.
Y'all are, like you know, inthe Bible, king Herod.
When he was given the speechand they were like, oh, he has
the voice of a god and he wasvery prideful, and then he died
from the inside because, anywaysit's in the.
Bible.
He was eaten from the inside,but, regardless, go check it out
(36:26):
.
That's what y'all are trying toget to happen to me.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
No, not at all no.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
So I don't know the mind of God.
I think these are greatquestions.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I think it's a great question as well.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Justin, do you?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
have more questions.
You joined late.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Justin, you're having a good time over there.
Just what you said.
Harry Casby said I think that'sdysentery.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I didn't say it was.
I was like is it dysentery?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'll let y'all read the passage.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Harry doodled himself to death.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Justin, what a crappy way to go Time out You're going
to hive.
Hive him for that but I did mymath joke about in addition to
that stuff together all the timewhen I do his level.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Never have this bond.
You will never.
When I you need to give me ahigh five in addition to that.
We were talking about that justto tell you a tiny bit of the
mind and his humor.
We were in drive the drive-thruat Taco Bell one time and the
lady said your total is $11.99.
And Blake went, never forget,and I died laughing.
(37:30):
So me and him laugh at reallystupid stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yes.
And that was the joke.
It was like never forget, oh mygoodness, $11.99.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
All right, y'all.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Any other questions we would like to ask God?
Anything come to mind.
Who's the goat in basketball?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Michael.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Jordan or.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
LeBron, I can already answer that, lebron.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
What if basketball is going to keep existing after we
die supposedly?
What if there's another goat?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
after LeBron what if we haven't even witnessed the
goat?
There's nothing after LeBron.
There's no meaning to life.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Now that I think about it, it's probably Luka,
hey Luka.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
After he left.
Yeah, after he left Mavericks,mavericks organization.
Yuck dude, yucky nasty.
That's when he really startedgoing off, yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Now he's the LeDon the.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
LaDawn.
Yes, Chloe, any questions you'dlike to ask?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
No PT-related questions.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Why did you make the human?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
body so complicated.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
No, that's true.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
Hey, I'm studying psychologyright now.
The brain is wild.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
It's actually quite crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Oh dude.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
It's wild, I'm also studying the brain right now.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
A lot of good questions and one day we'll get
to ask them.
Maybe, or, as some people think, when we get to heaven, all the
things we thought we would door we would say might just
disappear when we're before God.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
So we'll see, maybe we'll ask, maybe we won't.
Will heaven just be like IRLMinecraft If it?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
is bro, I'm going off , I'm cooking, I'm cooking bro,
I get to fight the Ender Dragonwith Jesus.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Dude me and you get to go cave diving.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Hold on, but is it in survival mode?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, like do you get to respawn, but you just lose
your inventory.
Yes, creative's lame bro.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
So you want to do survival?
Yes, so giant inventory yes,creatives are lame bro.
So you want to do survival?
Yes, so giant spiders, yes Well.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I mean if it can never really die.
I mean, if we're alive.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
During Revelations we get to see the giant locusts.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Why not a giant spider yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
True, that True.
I didn't think of that yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Checkmate atheist Checkmate.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
You get to have a pig .
Oh wait, you were in servicetoday, so did you hear the Papa
Blake stuff?
I did.
You missed us making fun of you.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It was great, you put yourself in a nice little trap.
The second Nate started walkingup there.
I was like, oh, I know he'sgoing to say something.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yes.
Thank you, Papa Blake.
I just wanted to get off thestage at that point.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
You want to crawl?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
into a box.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
All right point.
You want to crawl into a ball?
All right, I was just waitingfor the lightning bolt.
That was quite the conversation.
Would anyone like to take?
Us home justin, you came inlate.
I feel like you gotta gottasign us off um, um, yeah, great,
start go off.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
No, no, hang on let him cook, you're good yeah why
don't you tell us a Wagyu story?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
That's a great way A Wagyu story to go off, yeah just
a Wagyu story.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
End us with a.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Wagyu story.
Oh, I'll just end with this,okay.
So word to the wise If you havea milkshake, make sure that you
don't fall asleep before youdrink it all, or your cats will
rip open the cup, drink it andthen diarrhea everywhere.
God bless, have a good night.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
I haven't heard that one.
That's true.
Is it true?
No, I believe you.
I just haven't heard it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Dude, when did this happen?
Yesterday?
This week was it Friday.
Yeah, I probably was Fridaynight morning.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yes, I have a rough day, so that's how my day
started, thank you,
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