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October 9, 2020 22 mins

Sleep takes place with the body, but the creation of transformation starts with the mind, in particular the mindset. 

If you have been struggling with insomnia far too long, turning loose from it is more about the mindset than the sleep. 

In Episode 7, I'll breakdown the difference between the two mindsets used to achieve sleep, how  one is not inherently wrong, but how the other is  appropriate for breaking free from insomnia. 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the art of falling asleep.
I'm Derek Lacey and insomniacoach.
I created this podcast.
Insomniacs could have a space tocome and feel guided.
I feel like I know you couldshare some concepts that I wish
people had shared with meconcepts that integrate sleep
with every aspect of your life,physically, emotionally, and

(00:28):
spiritually.
I believe sleep is not mean anyother sleep exercise are the
August artifact in the sleep isyour canvas.
And I want to help you expressyourself using the insights from
my sleep coaching practice andmy own journey out of insomnia.
And by sharing transmissionsthat help you bridge the way you

(00:52):
experienced life, better sleep

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Episode seven.
I can't believe it's alreadyepisode seven, which I know is a
very episode, seven thing of meto say, but nonetheless, when I
started this podcast, I reallycouldn't imagine what I would be
talking about by this point.
So I was a little worried, evenwhen I started to prepare for

(01:26):
this episode, I kind ofstruggled with what I wanted to
discuss, but you know, thereality is sleep is all I think
about.
And it's really that I thinkabout it so much that it sort of
feels like going to yourrefrigerator when you're going
to cook dinner, opening it upand having all the shelves in

(01:48):
the food on the shelves, justkind of collapse and land on top
of each other and then having topick out your ingredients.
So having so much on my mind canbe an organizational challenge,
but you know, I think about itso much because I'm obsessed
with what makes it work andwhere it's gone wrong for so
many people and perhaps whereit's gone wrong for you.

(02:10):
I struggled to fall asleep andstay asleep for 37 years.
So yeah, you can say I'm alittle fixated with what went
into that.
What caused my insomnia and thenwhat healed it.
And I know you're interested inhearing about what healed it, so
that, that you could perhaps trysome things yourself and that's

(02:35):
the high I chase making moresense of sleep, helping you make
more sense of your sleep.
It's what I love.
And I it's, it's become mypurpose in life.
I see kind of how it ends forme.

(02:55):
You know, like, like looking forthe, the pot of gold at the end
of the rainbow is like melooking for, if there was such a
thing, there's not because thepursuit of sleep is all about
the pursuit.
It's not, it's about thelearning process.
Nonetheless, I feel like there'sgoing to be this sense of

(03:18):
euphoria, like kind of crossingthe line of a sleep
enlightenment.
And at that moment, I'm justgoing to be lifted into the
clouds, giving the little paradewave, looking like one of the BG
brothers, all cool with my longhair and white shirt with

(03:40):
ruffles and a leather vest,knowing that this is why I came
to earth.
So, um, I I'm, I really have anobsession with why it's a
mystery and why it can be sochallenging to accomplish

(04:00):
something that's so primordialthat is so deserving of
everybody, regardless of whatyour lifestyle is.
You know, I really don't.
I really don't think it's fair.
You know, the punishment doesnot fit the crime is what I'm
trying to say, that you can dosomething to prevent sleep from

(04:23):
happening, but then have toendure the suffering that comes
from that.
It just feels like it would bemore fair if they took away our
Chucky cheese tickets orincreased our utility bill or
the deal should be like, allright, you ate like crap today.
You were on your phone right upuntil you went to bed without

(04:45):
blocking light.
I'm still going to let yousleep.
But when you wake up, you needto go do some community service.
You need to go plant a tree,he'd go, go feed some people,
right.
That just seems more fair.
And of course, it's even moreunfair for you, the insomniac
who hasn't done anythingintentionally to get in the way
of sleep, you know, it's justthe stress of life, your past

(05:08):
experiences, maybe past lifeexperiences, but you know,
that's, that's, that's whatwe're dealing with.
And I'm committed to figuringthis out and where this is all
going.
Is that up until now in theseepisodes have been mostly
sharing a concept each episode,at which point you can take that

(05:29):
concept and, and then you'releft with that.
Either being helpful or justinteresting, or maybe neither,
but perhaps down the road, itwill come in handy.
And so there's this sense oftrying that I usually shy away

(05:54):
from, um, I'm a, a big advocatefor the opposite of trying.
However, if you're sleepdeprived and you desperately
need sleep, of course you needto try some things out.
But I just pictured people,listening, trying some sleep
concepts and then being like,okay, now what?

(06:17):
This hasn't solved my problem,but I'm not trying to solve your
problem.
I'm trying to, as I've promised,let you feel understood and
guided so that when it's time tosolve your problem, if you have
one, then you know how to do it,or you're just that much closer.
Now, if you're listening tothis, if you've been listening

(06:40):
to this and insomnia's not thestory of your life, then maybe
this episode isn't for you.
But if your story is insomniaand you want to rewrite that
story, then listening to me,just share concepts is going to
feel incomplete.
And to me that's unfair becausethat's the slave trap.

(07:03):
It's the try this.
And if it doesn't work well, Idon't know what else to tell you
trap.
It must be your unique problemthat can't be solved and sorry,
I pretended to understand whoyou are, but, um, we don't, we
don't deliver to that zip code,right?
And that doesn't feel good to aninsomniac because that is the

(07:25):
struggle.
That's it right there notfeeling understood, feeling like
nobody can help you with yourchallenge is the problem more so
than the sleep.
And that's the inspirationbehind everything that I do.
The podcast, my coaching is tocreate a space, a place where

(07:53):
you feel guided and understood,like it's your cave, your woman
cave, or your man cave andtrying things to sleep is part
of the process you need tosleep.
And so you need to do whateveryou can, but there's a
difference between trying andthen the trying mindset, just

(08:17):
because you try somethingbecause you want relief.
It doesn't mean that you havethe trying mindset.
And this is where the rubbermeets the road.
When it comes to reversinginsomnia, because in a trying
mindset, what happens is that inorder to sleep, as a means to an

(08:39):
end, you'll do something.
But the thinking that goes intothat doing is, well, hopefully
this will help me start sleepingbetter.
And then things will slowlychange.
I'll gradually get better sleep.
And I won't have worry aboutthis problem anymore.
I won't have to do anythingradical in order to re to

(09:03):
resolve this.
But when you are trying to, tosleep better in the short term
as a means to an end, but youalso realize that you need a
longterm plan to ultimately besuccessful with your sleep.

(09:23):
Now you are in the insomniareversal mindset, which is,
which is just a more empoweredplace to be.
It's a place to be.
That makes a difference.
So I wanted to kind of interveneright here.
If you are an insomniac,listening to these episodes and

(09:44):
just, just invite you to thinkabout the two different mindsets
and your relationship to tryingwith me, I'll give you an
example.
I was in the trying mindset fordecades, and it wasn't until I

(10:06):
entered into the insomniareversal mindset that the trying
I was doing actually made adifference and felt different.
So here's how, you know, here'sone way that you can probably
resonate with that will tell youif you've been in the trying

(10:27):
mindset before, and that's whereyou actually try something,
whether it's a new product or atechnique, and it actually works
and you begin sleeping betterfor a period of time, but your
life doesn't change.
Have you ever experienced that?

(10:48):
Where you're like, Oh wow, I'vebeen sleeping so well, but I
actually don't feelingdifferent.
And I don't know if this is theright analogy here, but it
almost feels like getting a, youknow, a hundred on a test that
you were given the answers towhen you sleep from the trying

(11:13):
mindset, you're not takingcredit for the success that came
from that.
Whereas in the insomnia atreversal mindset, you made some
changes that were integral tothat sleep.
Therefore you takeresponsibility to it and you get

(11:36):
more confident from it.
So I feel like it offers limitedservice to you for me or anybody
else to constantly be feedingyou ideas for falling asleep,
without addressing the mindsetthat is being used as you apply

(11:59):
those ideas.
Cause then they're just tricks.
And any trick, it gets old.
This is, this is what a mindsetshift with the sleep means.
When we struggle to sleep, weare identifying with there being
an emotional problem or perhapsa physical problem that is

(12:20):
mechanical in nature, right?
Like I used to think that if youdid a scan on my brain, there
was going to be a hamster on ahamster wheel in there.
And it's like, Oh, okay.
That's and you, it that's whatwas going on.
I thought I smelled somethingfunny, but the way that
relationship between physical,the physical nature and the

(12:44):
emotional nature of sleep worksis that, you know, it's, it
comes down to us being humanbeings that have brains that
allow us to make decisions.
Sleep is physical.
It takes place on a subatomiclevel below the cell below the
atom.
But the things that go intosetting your clock at a certain

(13:08):
time are not physical.
You are a human being with abrain that allows you to make
decisions.
And every day that you wake up,you can decide whether or not
you want to go to work, whetheror not you want to volunteer to
help people, or whether youshould Rob a bank.

(13:32):
The choice is yours.
Every single day.
You can, you can wreck so muchhavoc right now, right now I can
give you 10 minutes and you cando something and probably make
the news.
That's how much power you havein choice every single day that
you wake up.
So what sets your sleep clock isa combination of all your

(13:58):
decisions, which lead toemotional reactions in ways to
thinking, and ultimately thebehaviors that follow from that.
So it's a little ironic becauseyes, sleep is super emotional,
but it's not bedtime emotionalas much as it is daytime
emotional.
But the seduction is that theseduction from the trying

(14:23):
mindset is that sleeping willthen change the decisions and
the behaviors and the emotionsthat we're creating your
insomnia.
When in reality, if you sleepwithout changing those decisions
first, then nothing's going tobe different as it relates to

(14:45):
your life.
And the story that you've beentelling yourself about your life
and about sleep and the insomniawill take over again from the
insomnia reversal mindset,there's a mindset shift.
And then you have to contemplatethings that can be very
challenging.
They can be very triggering.
They force you to take deepbreaths and then contemplate

(15:08):
running the other way, becauseit just doesn't seem fair.
And it probably is unfair.
And this is the shift that takesplace because regardless of it
being fair, you say, I'm goingto meet the mindset where it
needs me to be.
And you believe things like itdoesn't matter how much sleep I

(15:32):
get tonight.
This is what I'm going to dotomorrow to set myself up for
sleep tomorrow night, regardlessof how I feel in the morning, or
you look at yourself in themirror, you look at your
insomnia in the mirror and yousay, I know that you are trying
to guide me towards somethingbetter.

(15:55):
And for that, I thank you.
I will never regret you.
I respect you.
I even adore you for this, butas much as I appreciate you,
it's not your time anymore.
It's my time.
Here's my offer.
Even if it looks like the worldis working against me every

(16:20):
single time I try to fix thisthing, I'm going to be convinced
that it's actually working forme.
I'm going to massage everythingthat happens in front of my eyes
to make it look like it's doingme a favor.

(16:41):
I, I tried everything to sleepswear.
I really did.
I tried everything.
But as soon as I told myselfthat I could change my insomnia
into something else, by changinghow I thought and what I said.

(17:02):
And by changing the decisionsthat I made with my body, it was
a matter of moments.
Not weeks, not days, probablyminutes before I felt the claw
of insomnia let go of me.
I was on the highway the otherday.
And that 80 song turned meloose.

(17:24):
Came on, turn me loose, turn meloose, turn me loose.
I got to do it my way.
Oh, no way at all.
I never thought it'd be singingon this podcast, but such a
good, such a good hook.

(17:46):
And, and I thought like it was,it was a metaphor for the
insomnia reversal mindset.
That's what the mindset is.
And what that looks like in reallife is that you get, let's say,
we'll call it only three hoursof sleep.

(18:06):
But you feel like a differentperson because you felt
responsible for the three hoursand not pissed at the five hours
that you didn't get.
That's the thing I call sleepconfidence, which is the best
supplement in the world.
Without that sleep competentmindset.

(18:26):
Then after three hours of sleep,the story that you're telling
yourself is not the story thatchanges your life.
It's the story that keeps you inthe same pattern.
So my story, my story is notasleep.
Story.
My story is a mindset story.

(18:48):
It's a, an insomnia reversalmindset story.
This is how life changes assleep changes.
When the sleep comes from thechanges in your mind, then your
mind is going to see the worlddifferently.
And then you're going to feelresponsible for your sleep.

(19:08):
And after five hours of insomniain this mindset, sleep is going
to feel better than eight hoursfields from the trying mindset.
And this is how you never lookback.
I could spend the rest of mylife trying to be an insomniac.
Again, I'll always identify asan insomniac that ink isn't

(19:28):
gonna come off the tattoo.
But as far as the patterns thattake place in an Insomniac's
life, that ain't that shippingcoming back.
It's impossible.
So let me pause because I wantyou to feel understood and
guided always, if this sounds alittle too, I have the tiger for

(19:52):
you right now.
That's okay.
That's okay.
The first thing I want tointroduce you to is that it's
really helpful to know whichmindset you are in so that you
aren't in the trying mindset,but thinking you are in the

(20:14):
insomnia reversal mindset, theinsomnia reversal mindset is not
measured by how badly you wantto sleep.
It's the thinking that's beingused and where that change is
coming from is the change comingfrom what I'm doing to sleep, or
is it what I'm doing toinfluence the decisions that are

(20:37):
affecting how I sleep?
That's the difference.
And we just don't want toconfuse the two.
And if it's not your time, thatdoesn't mean that the process
isn't beginning right now, sothat maybe it's your time in one
year from now or three yearsfrom now, wherever you are is
fine.

(20:59):
But being aware of thedifference will place you closer
to the more effective mindset.
But if you are ready and youfeel like this is your time, and
you recognize that you have nottried things from this mindset

(21:20):
before, and especially if youare not sure how to get into
this mindset, then let me helpyou.
I can help you get into thismindset and actually establish
the perspective that there's noway to fail at this.

(21:42):
If you'd like to have a momentumcreating conversation that sets
you on a path to reverse yourinsomnia, please go to Derek
Lacey coaching.com.
Send me a message until thenhalf grade sleep[inaudible]

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