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Welcome to the art of
falling asleep.
I'm Derek Lacey and insomniacoach.
I created this podcast.
Insomniacs could have a space tocome and feel guided.
I feel like I know you couldshare some concepts that I wish
people had shared with me,concepts that integrate sleep
with every aspect of your life,physically, emotionally, and
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spiritually.
I believe sleep is not mean anyother sleep exercise are the
oddest artifact in the sleep isyour canvas.
And I want to help you expressyourself using the insights from
my sleep coaching practice andmy own journey out of insomnia.
And by sharing transmissionsthat help you bridge the way you
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experience life, better sleep.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to another
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Episode, episode,
number five of the article in
the sleep podcast.
I'm your host, Derek Lacey.
And I want to talk to you todayabout permanence permanence.
What do I mean by permanence?
I'm not talking about theability of your hair to be
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tightly curled, but the conceptof forever things that lasts
forever things that don't,what's immortal, what's mortal,
and then how this all ties in tosleep.
So, yeah, basically, I'm goingto talk about death today.
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So I'm trying to lead you ingently, but you know, something
funny happened as I waspreparing this episode, I
realized I wanted to do anepisode on this, on the idea of,
of death and, and really justmortality.
And then I thought, Whoa, dude,this is a little too soon.
This is a little too dark rightnow.
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It's episode five, not episode15.
And then I realized that, youknow, that thinking explains my
inspiration for this entirelybecause the concept of mortality
to little untapped and what Ibelieve happens as a result of
this is that the concept ofdeath goes a little forgotten.
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We avoid the thought of it forgood reasons, right?
Because like in the last coupleof episodes, I talked about
presence a lot.
There's no, there's no suchthing as a moment other than the
moment that's right in front ofus.
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So the idea of mortality cankind of contradict the idea of
presence yet.
Ironically, getting in touchwith mortality can be a
wonderful way to get back in thepresent moment.
So I thought it was kind offitting that I felt compelled
to, to talk about this aftertalking about presence so much,
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you know, it's, it's also moremortality.
I think there's a correlation.
The more intense the situationis, the more that being mortal
can allow you to surrender.
When we encounter intenseproblems, we tend to face them
with this sense of ignoredmortality.
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What I mean by this is that Ithink a lot of us acknowledge
that we will die one day, butwhen circumstances are
heightened, we subconsciouslylose our sense of mortality,
which gives the problem afeeling of permanence.
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Like if I don't make this right,right now, I'll have to deal
with this for eternity.
There's a very good reason, avery good explanation.
I think for why this happensbecause a part of us is eternal.
Just not the part that dealswith 3d problems, like the
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problems that a lot of peopleare dealing with right now, you
know, with righteousness and, uh, problems that we struggled to
find linear solutions to.
But we feel like we need thoselinear.
This creates this type ofsolution for all of that stuff
needs to be figured out by theego.
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But the part of us that haseternal access the soul, it's
all forgiving, all loving and itoccupies the same body that the
ego does.
So it makes sense.
When you think about it, thisway, how the body who is
partially occupied by the soulsstate of permanence may confuse
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a temporary state of being forpermanence.
Now, if you're not a spiritualperson, if you believe for
instance that when you die,that's it, you just, you die.
This doesn't mean that theconcept, this concept can't help
you.
What's important to remember isthat when you forget about your
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mortality, regardless of yourspiritual belief, your
challenges will tend to feellike permanent ones.
When in reality, most problems,even the ones that seem to
prevent us sleeping on asubconscious level will go away
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in some form or fashionthroughout a lifetime.
Maybe not entirely, but in someform or fashion.
And yeah, if you don't believethat your soul moves on forever
and that when you perish inhuman form, that that's, it, the
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idea of permanence could feelrelative.
And therefore a problem now is aproblem forever.
You might be facing a situationthat could realistically be a
forever problem, but maybe foryou and for anybody, when you
factor in your mortality, youmay look at the part of the
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problem causing the most painfulemotions and be like, um, I'm
going to die one day.
And I haven't got time for this.
And remember too, that this is asleep concept.
And with sleep concepts, we'renot looking to poor hand
sanitizer on our emotions andact as if those emotions that
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block us from sleep are bad.
All emotions deserve love andattention.
We just look to collaborate withthese emotions so that we can
sleep.
That's all that has to happen.
The belief that we are standingfor is okay, even with
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everything that's happeningright now, even with everything
that I've ever been through, Iam still entitled to sleep.
And to do this from this conceptwhat's happening is that we are
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just making the emotionunderneath the block to sleep
relative.
We don't want an emotion toactually weigh more than the sum
of its parts.
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Here's how this all cametogether.
For me the other day, I wasdriving down the road, running
an errand, and I was way up inmy head.
I'm in the process of makingsome really big decisions right
now.
And you know what?
That's like the bigger, thedecision, the more you focus on,
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what if it doesn't work out.
So that's what I was doing.
I was just thinking about what Ididn't want to happen.
And then suddenly right, as Iwas making a turn awards out of
nowhere, and I just thought tomyself, you're going to die one
day.
And then in an instant, my bodywent from a stress state to
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being completely relaxed.
And I actually stopped thinkingabout what could go wrong and
then started thinking about whatcould go, right?
And then how much control Iactually had over making things,
right?
I felt so much relief and thenlaughed at how thinking of my
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own death felt so good.
And it, it kind of sounds funnyto think about going up to
somebody who's really stressedout and to make them feel
better, instead of saying, Hey,things are gonna work out just
fine.
You say, you know, you're goingto die one day, right?
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And not like, uh, you're gonnadie one day, but like, Hey, you
know, you're gonna die one day.
I don't know how to say itcorrectly.
But I do know that for me, whenI felt relieved by this, what I
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was doing was realisticallygetting in touch with my
mortality.
I closed the gap that mysituation was creating between
my true reality.
And then the perception ofeternal reality that was being
experienced by the temporarypart of me by my ego.
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And if you really think aboutit, this is probably the best
way to, to define insomnia.
After you get all of the sleephygiene pieces, correct?
If you still aren't sleeping, ifthere's something mysterious,
that's blocking you.
All that's happening is your egois thinking that before it goes
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to sleep, it needs to fixwhatever problem it might be
facing.
Because if it doesn't, it'sgoing to have to deal with this
for infinity.
Cause if you think about the egoand sleep, we sign a silent
contract with our mortality.
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Every time we sleep, go ask 10people how they prefer to die.
And at least 9.9 of them willsay that they want to go
peacefully in their sleep.
So you see how there's thisdouble edged sword with sleep
and death.
And then there's thesubconscious, just in the
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balance in the middle of it, allof the two edges having it's
wild adventure, like which wayam I going tonight?
And if it's this way, damn, I'mnot ready.
We need to fix these things.
And this is ironic.
It's super ironic that thesetting that we need in crave in
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order to regenerate our body andfeel good is the exact same
setting that we choose to perishin sleep has a fucked up sense
of humor.
Trust me, I know it.
Well, I know it really well.
And I respect it.
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I have to, I respect a goodjoke.
I respect it when it's donewell.
And you kind of have to, becausethere's a lot of, there's a lot
of power and peace when youfigure it out.
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So it only makes sense to methat the natural balancing agent
for reconciling this irony isgetting comfortable with the
concept of mortality.
Recognizing your mortality willkeep your subconscious from
having to frantically avoidbeing on the wrong side of the
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sword every night, when it'sfalling asleep.
Now that this idea, this conceptcomes up for me, I realize that
this is exactly what it must belike when you die peacefully in
your sleep, that it's not goingto sleep thinking you're going
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to do something the next day.
You must be.
I'm assuming that you have to bein full cooperation.
It's just gotta be somethingthat happens when your soul and
your ego and your body all cometogether.
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They have a drink.
They look at each other, theythank each other for their time
and they decide and accept thatthis is the last time they will
sleep in the form of human body.
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There would be no fear in thatnone.
And that would be amazing.
And so you can think about thisconcept in a few different ways,
but from this perspective, justthe fact that you might be
emotionally blocked, fallingasleep.
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And if the possibility ofaccidentally death in your sleep
is what's keeping you awake.
Just the sign of fear alone isenough to know that this is not
the night that it happens.
So there really is nothing tofear.
Fear is a sign that there isnothing to fear.
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The other day I was, I wasflying just a couple of days
ago.
I was flying and I'm not a bigfan of flying.
I travel a lot more.
If I could drive everywhere, Iwould rather drive from the
bottom tip of Texas to thebottom tip of Florida.
However long that would takethen fly for like two hours
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across the ocean.
That's just the way it is.
And so I was on the plane and itwas doing that whole thing.
It does when it bounces aroundand makes me feel uncomfortable.
And then the thought came to meagain, you're going to die one
day and then like magic.
I immediately felt better.
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And what was cool was that whatit made me understand was not
necessarily that I was going todie one day, but that I was
going to die one day.
And that day is most likely nottoday.
So instead of me thinking abouthow much of a bummer it would be
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for me to die as an IE mortal,right before thinking about my
mortality, I'm an immortal on aplane thinking like this would
really suck if I died right now,cause I'm not ready.
But instead as thinking aboutit, as somebody who was mortal,
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I was able to take the pressureoff of this single moment.
There was no pressure because Iwas never permanent to begin
with.
There would be a lot of pressureif surviving that moment was the
difference between the earthfalling out of the sky or not.
But that's not that that wasn'twhat reality was.
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So I couldn't help it feelbetter.
This is all very much likegetting a new pair of tennis
shoes.
It sucks when you buy a new pairof shoes and then you get your
first stain on them in the firstday or the first week.
In fact, nothing in the historyof the world sucks more than
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that.
That's the worst thing thatcould ever happen to a new pair
of shoes.
Anyhow.
But when that happens is thatthe last pair of tennies that
you'll ever own, probably not.
And at most it's only a problemuntil you get your next pair.
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No one right now is still mad.
Over a premature stain from twopairs of tennis shoes, go in
this concept the best way todeal with the next time.
Somebody steps on your new pairof tennies.
You just have to remember thatthose shoes will die one day
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too.
When I'm remembering thatsomeday I will die too.
Unlike I feared at the beginningof recording this podcast, I'm
not being morbid.
I'm just being mortal.
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And by being mortal, I'mreducing that erroneous gap
that's been created between myreality and what my emotions and
my nervous system areexperiencing.
As reality, getting in touchwith your mortality is not
intended for you to be morbid orfeel anxious about death.
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Please don't leave here withthat feeling.
It's so that you can get yournervous system to just keep it
real.
When your nervous system iskeeping it real, it can
surrender to the things that arereal, like the fact that your
body is tired and that yourbrain is sleepy, that the
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Denison receptors in yourhypothalamus are absorbing all
the sleep you created that day.
You get to succumb to themelatonin in your bloodstream
and deal with the stuff that youhave to deal with emotionally in
the morning.
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This doesn't mean that youstitch a meme into your pillow
that says you're going to dieone day.
No, that's not how it works.
I did try this out.
I didn't stitch anything into mypillow, but I have played with
this concept the last couple ofnights, I've just said that to
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myself, you're going to die oneday just to see what happened.
And sure enough, I felt myselfgoing deeper and deeper, as I
said it.
And look, the, the thought ofacknowledging your mortality in
order to fall asleep is not theplan here.
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But I do want to say that beingin touch with your mortality is
one of the most helpful thingsthat anybody can do.
It is the key to understandinglife and accepting life and
being able to move through lifeno matter what, but the sleep
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concept that I want to sharewith you here is that you are
not here on this planet, in thislifetime to get anything right
or wrong.
You are just here to experienceemotions as a human being
because you can't take them withyou.
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Your emotions are not permanent.
And because this is the case,this is just more proof that the
obstacles that are preventingyour subconscious mind from
falling asleep are only designedto be felt when you are supposed
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to be awake.
When you, the human we'rebiologically designed to think
and problem solve.
And that sleep is only here togive you an escape from that
job.
This is what happens when youare in touch with your
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mortality, you get to do all thethings that you, the human being
we're supposed to do.
That's it may you always
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