July 14, 2025 • 23 mins
This week, we’re talking about emotional exhaustion, rejection, and what helps us keep going anyway—like safe friendships, creative courage, and unexpected symbols (hello, snail 🐌). We explore the nervous system’s role in feeling unsafe to create, how found family supports healing, and why encouragement from the right people can change everything.
Whether you're weary, wobbly, or just looking for your people—you belong here. 🤍
Thank you so much for listening.
If you know someone who needs this kind of gentle nudge, send it their way. The more kind, creative hearts in this space, the better.
And if something in this episode resonates or makes you smile, come say hi on Instagram @theartpeaceexperiment 🤍
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome to the Art Piece Experiment.
(00:06):
We're your hosts, two artistsand friends.
I'm Tasha.
And I'm Brianna.
at the end of 2024 we decided wewanted to cultivate more safety
peace love alignment andexcitement through our art and
our art practices so here we aresharing our journey with you and
(00:28):
we're so excited you're here wehope you enjoy our conversations
they're honest raw just twofriends talking to each other
about the realities of life andcreativity.
We're so excited for you to joinus and be along with us for the
journey.
Week six.
(00:49):
Did you get creative this week?
I did it.
I did the thing.
Yay! You did the thing.
I did the thing.
Did you?
I did.
Yay! We're amazing.
We are.
um yeah I tell me tell me aboutyours okay well so I was dealing
(01:12):
with uh you know last episode Italked a little bit about some
triggering things coming up yeahand it was it was stuff that
affected me and my daughter sothis past week has just been
like an emotional roller coasteryeah it's been a lot yeah um And
when I finally got to mypainting time, my painting day
(01:34):
of the week, man, was I tired.
I was so emotionally drained.
Yeah.
And I had so been lookingforward to sitting down and
painting that week.
And then it came and I was justlike, Oh, do I have to?
(02:18):
You know, like it's getting backinto the swing of things.
And then adding, you know,things on top that were hard,
like just– is another level is awhole another like did you
experience the same thing afterspring break of just like do I
have to yeah because we weretexting each other beforehand
and realized like we were gonnacreate at the same like paint at
(02:41):
the same time and we had itscheduled and we both knew that
we were going to it just likeworked out that this week that
we were gonna do that and thenwe were both just like hey
you're scrolling on social medialike we were like sending each
other things I was like you'resupposed to be painting right
now Yeah.
Yeah.
I got home from dropping mydaughter off at school and I sat
(03:03):
down to like take my shoes offand then I was going to take my
coat off and I just, I sat downand started scrolling instead.
It was like, what am I doing?
Yep.
And then I was like sending youstuff and then you were sending
me stuff and then it was like,wait, we're supposed to be
painting.
What are we doing?
Yay for having an accountabilitybuddy.
Yeah.
Probably would have happened fora lot longer.
(03:24):
Probably.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
So I ended up– I started apainting.
I didn't finish it because Ijust ran out of steam.
Yeah.
But, you know, I started, and Igot a good portion of it done,
and I feel really proud andhappy with what I did create.
That's great.
(03:45):
I think that's, like, somethingto really recognize.
Like, that's important torecognize is to– Creativity, you
know, when you're trying to becreative and following that, you
have to you have to allow youremotional state to just be part
(04:06):
of that, too.
You know, it just is.
And so not to get down onyourself or feel guilty for not
doing all that you set out todo.
Right.
That's like an important thing.
an important thing to be patientand have that grace and, you
know, just like self-compassion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(04:27):
And then I had an interestingexperience too because that, I
mean, this was yesterday.
I, you know, I had been paintingduring the morning and then I
stopped and I had lunch and thenafter that was when I was like,
I don't know, like I paintedlike two leaves and I was like,
This is going so hard.
(04:47):
But then my other best friend,I'm very lucky.
I have two best friends who areboth very creative and wonderful
and I am so blessed.
But my other friend is an authorand she reached out to me
yesterday just like, I...
And I have permission to talkabout this.
She told me it was okay, but shegot a rejection.
(05:08):
She's been burying and sendingout pitches to agents and trying
to find an agent right now.
And she got accepted into thisreally cool mentorship program
that at the end of it has theshowcase where the upcoming
authors that are selected aretheir works are like shown to
(05:30):
like different agents and theagents can request to have their
manuscripts.
So she got her first rejectionfrom that.
And it was, I mean, it'sdevastating.
It's so, it's like gettingrejected is always hard.
Yeah.
Having your dreams rejected andyour, your creativity rejected
is, is rough.
(05:50):
And so she was just like, youknow, she's having, she's having
kind of a hard time with thatnaturally.
Yeah.
And, And then, you know, thenext message she sent was like,
okay, time to send out morequery letters.
Yes.
Time to sit down and do more.
And I am so proud of her.
Yeah.
(06:11):
She grew up in a situation wherebeing rejected like that could
have put her into complete,like, freeze or flight mode.
Yeah.
Like, new giving up mode.
And I am so proud.
proud of her she has come so farand like taking those steps and
(06:31):
realizing that she is worthy andher art is worthy yes to to
pursue to pursue and I'm soproud like I'm just oh I'm so
proud of her And I just, Iwanted to talk about that today.
I asked her if it was okay.
And she was like, yeah, no, ifit helps anybody, like, of
(06:52):
course, let's talk about it.
And I just want to talk abouthow important it is to have
community and people who believein you.
And knowing who your rightpeople are to be able to share
with.
Because, you know, she grew upin a home where her creative
(07:15):
pursuits were not accepted.
They were not okay.
She went to school for somethingelse and had a different career
and was not pursuing writing fora long time.
And so the fact that Because itwasn't healthy.
It wasn't healthy in her nervoussystem.
(07:36):
It wasn't okay.
It wasn't okay to take thosesteps forward.
It wasn't safe.
It wasn't safe.
Yeah.
And so she's come so far and gotto this point that now she got
rejected.
Like her dream got rejected bysomeone in the industry.
And she goes, okay, time to putmyself out there for more
rejection.
(07:56):
She's amazing.
Take it to another gear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kick it up a notch.
Oh, that's so– inspiring and sojust amazing that's so uplifting
and I'm so excited for her she'sgreat I yeah I think this is
(08:16):
this is a topic that's I havebeen thinking a lot about and
I've been hearing you know justdifferent perspectives about
rejection and just kind of thatwhole thing and Right.
Right.
Yeah.
(08:55):
that doesn't mean that therearen't those people out there
and you're just sifting throughthe weeds, right?
You're just sifting until youfind your wildflower.
And I love that.
I love that perspective, butit's really hard to get there,
you know, to believe that.
It is.
Well, it's interesting becauselike our nervous system, one of
(09:16):
its main jobs is to keep usconnected to
SPEAKER_01 (09:19):
our
SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
people, to our community, to our tribe.
UNKNOWN (09:21):
Because that means everything.
SPEAKER_00 (09:23):
safety and life.
Like you have to have a tribe inorder, you know, to be able to
stay alive, stay alive.
Yeah.
It's part of being human.
It's just how we're wired andwhat we need.
Right.
And so for a lot of, a lot ofpeople, I mean, a lot of people
I know, like myself, like allpeople, like, I don't know
(09:43):
anybody.
Well, it's just creativity isoften then wired in our nervous
systems to not be safe becausenot all of us have, that
creative mindset community fromthe get-go growing up in our
families.
That's true.
And in our culture too.
Right.
Some people do, but it's a few.
(10:06):
Yeah.
It's not very common.
It's not the majority.
Right.
Right.
And so this friend that I wastalking about, she started
pursuing– her writing againafter we like we were high
school friends and then we losttouch with she's older than I am
and she went to college you knowbefore I did and and moved moved
(10:26):
out we lost touch and then wegot back together again after
having our girls and um justhappened to live in the same
city and so we reconnected andso this was after my like okay
I'm gonna start creating againand so it's something that I
just shared with her And talkedabout, and we just talked about,
and it was like, okay, westarted building this community
(10:50):
of, she's like, okay, I want tostart writing again.
Like if you're going to, ifyou're doing it, I'm going to do
it.
Like I'm going to pursue mything and I'm going to start
going for it.
And it was, it was that momentof finally having somebody that
we could share and connect.
And, and, and those like littlesteps of telling our nervous
system, Hey, look, doing thisthing connects me to tribe.
(11:13):
Yeah.
Because it was that safe person.
Now, if I went and shared my artwith a family member, certain
family members, I would losethat sense of safety and tribe.
Because it's like, oh, I'm notaccepted.
I'm like, this isn't okay.
This isn't safe.
And it's that rejection thatmakes it feel like, oh, I can't
(11:36):
keep going on.
So if you've ever experiencedthat...
Don't get too hard on yourselfbecause this is just how we're
wired as human beings.
You know, I wonder if that'swhy, you know, in stories and
books or movies or whatever, thekind of theme of found family.
I love found family.
(11:57):
It's so good.
And everybody loves foundfamily.
Yeah.
Everyone wants that.
Everybody loves that and wantsthat and, you know, warms their
heart, right?
Yeah.
Feeling so accepted.
And it's because of that.
Most people are not born into afamily that, you know, like, I
(12:17):
don't know, everybody has theirown issues, right?
Every, every, everything,everyone has ways that they were
raised or beliefs that they wereraised with that.
when they grow, they want to,you know, go a different way or,
or grow out of, or, you know,things like that with whatever
it may be.
Right.
And, and so that sense offinding, finding your people,
(12:40):
right.
Finding your, your community oflike-minded people.
And, and that's a healthy andnormal thing too, you know, as
we grow and, and get older,we're supposed to kind of detach
from our, from our, our, corefamily, right?
And find our own life and ourown people.
And it's a normal, healthy thingto do.
And so we find our found familywith our interests and things
(13:04):
like that.
Anyway, so it's a powerfulthing.
It's a powerful thing.
And I think it's very universal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that moment of connectingwith her was really powerful for
her and it was really powerfulfor me.
Yeah.
And then a few years after that,I ended up moving again and
moving near you.
Yeah.
Which was awesome.
Yeah.
Same thing once again.
It strengthened that.
(13:25):
Oh, I have tribe in this.
And I didn't think about thisback then.
I didn't know about the nervoussystem.
I didn't make those connections.
But just looking back andrealizing how profound those
connections were in my journey.
Yeah, how impactful.
How impactful and gave me such–that boost and confidence and
(13:47):
ability to keep going even whenthings were hard because life at
the time felt impossible in somany other parts of my life and
yet I was still able to grow inthose ways and I credit that a
lot to you and my other friendwho were my support and were
there for me and for like thefirst time in my life I felt
really safe finally starting toshare my art because it was
(14:10):
championed it was cheered onlike I was cheered on I felt
like for other people around me,I was worthy.
And in a society that is solike, You have to be independent
and strong by yourself.
And it's like, okay, we're notmade that way.
Yeah.
We need community.
We need other people.
Yeah.
Like-minded people.
(14:31):
Right.
And like, yes, I need to find myown self-worth and have that
within me.
But having other people thatalso see that is only going to
help.
Yeah.
It makes such a huge difference.
And I mean, when, you know, wegot– lived together and– and
(14:51):
started getting it into arttogether, you know, at the same
time, that was super helpful forme too.
You know, like went both ways.
It was, it's, it was so helpfulto have like be in an
environment with another personwhere art was, um, and
creativity was loved andaccepted and wanted and valued
(15:13):
you know it made a hugedifference because then it
helped me break down some ofthose blocks and walls of and
start to be feeling, you know,start to feel like, okay, maybe,
maybe it is okay.
Maybe, you know, maybe it's notweird that I value this or, you
know, and, and open up more tothat and take those baby steps.
(15:36):
Those are the baby stages ofthis podcast.
Exactly.
Cause we had, I mean, these arethe kinds of conversations we
had, you know, even then severalyears ago.
Yeah.
So it's huge.
It really does make a hugedifference.
And coupled with the self-worth,that is so powerful, right?
(16:02):
Right.
Because you have to have both.
You do.
And I feel like they growtogether.
Yeah.
As your self-worth grows, I feellike you're able to– be more
present in that community in acommunity and really show up
more and then that strengthensand as your community
(16:23):
strengthens it helps you feellike you can be yourself more
and it's just like this you knowas you're serving and loving you
know another person especiallysomeone who has like similar
goals right to you and you'relike both working you know
parallel to each other workingon those things and yeah it does
it helps it helps build thatresilience and that confidence
(16:44):
and And, you know, thatself-worth.
Yeah, that strength.
Yeah, because another personsees it in you and you see it in
them.
And if you can value it in themand believe that so fully, you
know, it does help.
It does help you start.
turning that in on yourself andbe like oh okay I'm worthy of
(17:06):
yeah I'm worthy of these thingsthese things too like sometimes
I have that too yeah sometimesit's easier to love another
person you know and like seetheir worth and their value yeah
and like fully like believe itlike deep down and then start
harnessing that kind of energyfor yourself and and believe it
(17:26):
definitely you know It justhelps all around.
Yeah.
And having the consistency andthe repetition of somebody, you
know, pointing those things outin you, you know, and believing
in you and talking about yourstrengths like that, that helps
in the belief, you know, whenyou can't quite see it in
(17:47):
yourself.
Yeah.
It's really helpful to havethat.
Super helpful.
Yeah.
So my painting this week was asnail.
Which is just my symbol rightnow.
(18:12):
I love it.
I'm going to go and I'm going todo my little research on the
symbolism of what I was paintingthis week.
That's what I've been doing inmy journaling and all of that.
(18:32):
This one has a snail reaching upfor a raspberry.
It's got this raspberry plantthat's part of it.
It doesn't have the raspberryyet.
It's looking at it and reachingfor it.
raspberries are symbols of loveand kindness.
(18:53):
And so I was looking at this andthe snail is like this
representation of persistencyand tenacity and coming back to
yourself and believing inyourself, going at your own
pace, all of those things.
And so this combination of thesnail that is reaching for this
love and this kindness and inconnection with like, hey, I've
(19:15):
just dedicated this to my friendeven though I don't know what
this painting means.
It's like, you know, thekindest, most loving thing you
can do for yourself is to goafter your dreams, to do what
matters to you, to like takethose creative steps forward.
Like there's no other thing youcan do for yourself that is as
(19:37):
impactful and loving.
I love that so much.
Wow.
Mic drop.
Boom.
Boom.
So good.
How cool is that?
That you, you, you know, didn'teven know and then made that for
her and it just correlated soperfectly.
So powerfully.
(19:58):
And like, we were just like veryenergetically connected.
Yeah.
She, she texted me this morningright before we started
recording and was like, I sentout 10 new queries yesterday and
I'm going to do more today.
She's like, I'm, I'm being thesnail.
Oh, I love that.
(20:18):
That makes me really happy.
Yeah.
And it's just, it's beautifulbecause you know, she's able to
inspire me and I'm able toinspire her.
I was just going to say, howinspiring is that?
When we see people going fortheir dreams, it's so inspiring,
right?
It's so inspiring.
So yeah, that means that we canturn around and do that too.
Our reaching for our dreams isalso inspiring and worthy and
(20:41):
good, just like anybody else'sis worthy and good.
UNKNOWN (20:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (20:45):
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So start looking at yourcommunity and who could
potentially be your safe person.
It's worth it.
And who isn't.
Yes.
Oh, that's also.
In terms of creativity, becauseyou might have really good
people in your life, but theydon't get the creative side.
Right.
(21:08):
That's part of it is recognizingwho's safe to share with and who
isn't.
And that doesn't mean that youdon't love them or that you're
rejecting the person or anythingnegative about that person.
It just may not be the rightperson to share with.
You might just need anotherperson who really understands to
(21:29):
help you in that phase, in thatway.
They might not be your– yourcreative healing and growing
buddy.
Right.
And that's okay.
But you need to find, you needto find creative healing
buddies.
Yeah.
Growing buddies.
We have, we have differentpeople and, and they in
different areas of our lives.
Right.
(21:49):
Yeah.
And, and, So it's important toknow that not one person is
going to meet every single needthat we have.
And that's okay.
Yeah, that's perfectly fine.
But it's also important to knowhow our bodies and our systems
work and what we need to besuccessful in our goals.
(22:11):
And this is one of the thingsthat we found is so majorly
impactful.
Like either...
kind of make or break.
Yeah, really.
Like moving forward or lettingyourself get left behind.
You know, it's like, it'simportant.
It's a need.
Yeah, it's a need.
It's a need.
It's not just like somethingthat's really nice to have,
(22:32):
which it is, but it's kind ofimperative to moving forward.
I mean, there's that whole thingabout you become the, like the
five people that you spend themost time with, right?
Yep.
And there's a reason it'sbecause they're nervous.
Yeah, exactly.
And so finding people that arereaching for or living the kind
(22:58):
of, you know, creativity and thelife that you want is going to
help you in that journey.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
That's it for today, friend.
Thanks for spending this timewith us.
We hope you're leaving with alittle more light, a little more
peace, and maybe even a nudge togo be creative just because it
(23:20):
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We're cheering you on Alwaysuntil next time, keep making,
(23:43):
keep softening and keep showingup as your whole beautiful self.
Welcome to the Art Piece Experiment.
(00:06):
We're your hosts, two artistsand friends.
I'm Tasha.
And I'm Brianna.
at the end of 2024 we decided wewanted to cultivate more safety
peace love alignment andexcitement through our art and
our art practices so here we aresharing our journey with you and
(00:28):
we're so excited you're here wehope you enjoy our conversations
they're honest raw just twofriends talking to each other
about the realities of life andcreativity.
We're so excited for you to joinus and be along with us for the
journey.
Week six.
(00:49):
Did you get creative this week?
I did it.
I did the thing.
Yay! You did the thing.
I did the thing.
Did you?
I did.
Yay! We're amazing.
We are.
um yeah I tell me tell me aboutyours okay well so I was dealing
(01:12):
with uh you know last episode Italked a little bit about some
triggering things coming up yeahand it was it was stuff that
affected me and my daughter sothis past week has just been
like an emotional roller coasteryeah it's been a lot yeah um And
when I finally got to mypainting time, my painting day
(01:34):
of the week, man, was I tired.
I was so emotionally drained.
Yeah.
And I had so been lookingforward to sitting down and
painting that week.
And then it came and I was justlike, Oh, do I have to?
(02:18):
You know, like it's getting backinto the swing of things.
And then adding, you know,things on top that were hard,
like just– is another level is awhole another like did you
experience the same thing afterspring break of just like do I
have to yeah because we weretexting each other beforehand
and realized like we were gonnacreate at the same like paint at
(02:41):
the same time and we had itscheduled and we both knew that
we were going to it just likeworked out that this week that
we were gonna do that and thenwe were both just like hey
you're scrolling on social medialike we were like sending each
other things I was like you'resupposed to be painting right
now Yeah.
Yeah.
I got home from dropping mydaughter off at school and I sat
(03:03):
down to like take my shoes offand then I was going to take my
coat off and I just, I sat downand started scrolling instead.
It was like, what am I doing?
Yep.
And then I was like sending youstuff and then you were sending
me stuff and then it was like,wait, we're supposed to be
painting.
What are we doing?
Yay for having an accountabilitybuddy.
Yeah.
Probably would have happened fora lot longer.
(03:24):
Probably.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
So I ended up– I started apainting.
I didn't finish it because Ijust ran out of steam.
Yeah.
But, you know, I started, and Igot a good portion of it done,
and I feel really proud andhappy with what I did create.
That's great.
(03:45):
I think that's, like, somethingto really recognize.
Like, that's important torecognize is to– Creativity, you
know, when you're trying to becreative and following that, you
have to you have to allow youremotional state to just be part
(04:06):
of that, too.
You know, it just is.
And so not to get down onyourself or feel guilty for not
doing all that you set out todo.
Right.
That's like an important thing.
an important thing to be patientand have that grace and, you
know, just like self-compassion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(04:27):
And then I had an interestingexperience too because that, I
mean, this was yesterday.
I, you know, I had been paintingduring the morning and then I
stopped and I had lunch and thenafter that was when I was like,
I don't know, like I paintedlike two leaves and I was like,
This is going so hard.
(04:47):
But then my other best friend,I'm very lucky.
I have two best friends who areboth very creative and wonderful
and I am so blessed.
But my other friend is an authorand she reached out to me
yesterday just like, I...
And I have permission to talkabout this.
She told me it was okay, but shegot a rejection.
(05:08):
She's been burying and sendingout pitches to agents and trying
to find an agent right now.
And she got accepted into thisreally cool mentorship program
that at the end of it has theshowcase where the upcoming
authors that are selected aretheir works are like shown to
(05:30):
like different agents and theagents can request to have their
manuscripts.
So she got her first rejectionfrom that.
And it was, I mean, it'sdevastating.
It's so, it's like gettingrejected is always hard.
Yeah.
Having your dreams rejected andyour, your creativity rejected
is, is rough.
(05:50):
And so she was just like, youknow, she's having, she's having
kind of a hard time with thatnaturally.
Yeah.
And, And then, you know, thenext message she sent was like,
okay, time to send out morequery letters.
Yes.
Time to sit down and do more.
And I am so proud of her.
Yeah.
(06:11):
She grew up in a situation wherebeing rejected like that could
have put her into complete,like, freeze or flight mode.
Yeah.
Like, new giving up mode.
And I am so proud.
proud of her she has come so farand like taking those steps and
(06:31):
realizing that she is worthy andher art is worthy yes to to
pursue to pursue and I'm soproud like I'm just oh I'm so
proud of her And I just, Iwanted to talk about that today.
I asked her if it was okay.
And she was like, yeah, no, ifit helps anybody, like, of
(06:52):
course, let's talk about it.
And I just want to talk abouthow important it is to have
community and people who believein you.
And knowing who your rightpeople are to be able to share
with.
Because, you know, she grew upin a home where her creative
(07:15):
pursuits were not accepted.
They were not okay.
She went to school for somethingelse and had a different career
and was not pursuing writing fora long time.
And so the fact that Because itwasn't healthy.
It wasn't healthy in her nervoussystem.
(07:36):
It wasn't okay.
It wasn't okay to take thosesteps forward.
It wasn't safe.
It wasn't safe.
Yeah.
And so she's come so far and gotto this point that now she got
rejected.
Like her dream got rejected bysomeone in the industry.
And she goes, okay, time to putmyself out there for more
rejection.
(07:56):
She's amazing.
Take it to another gear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kick it up a notch.
Oh, that's so– inspiring and sojust amazing that's so uplifting
and I'm so excited for her she'sgreat I yeah I think this is
(08:16):
this is a topic that's I havebeen thinking a lot about and
I've been hearing you know justdifferent perspectives about
rejection and just kind of thatwhole thing and Right.
Right.
Yeah.
(08:55):
that doesn't mean that therearen't those people out there
and you're just sifting throughthe weeds, right?
You're just sifting until youfind your wildflower.
And I love that.
I love that perspective, butit's really hard to get there,
you know, to believe that.
It is.
Well, it's interesting becauselike our nervous system, one of
(09:16):
its main jobs is to keep usconnected to
SPEAKER_01 (09:19):
our
SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
people, to our community, to our tribe.
UNKNOWN (09:21):
Because that means everything.
SPEAKER_00 (09:23):
safety and life.
Like you have to have a tribe inorder, you know, to be able to
stay alive, stay alive.
Yeah.
It's part of being human.
It's just how we're wired andwhat we need.
Right.
And so for a lot of, a lot ofpeople, I mean, a lot of people
I know, like myself, like allpeople, like, I don't know
(09:43):
anybody.
Well, it's just creativity isoften then wired in our nervous
systems to not be safe becausenot all of us have, that
creative mindset community fromthe get-go growing up in our
families.
That's true.
And in our culture too.
Right.
Some people do, but it's a few.
(10:06):
Yeah.
It's not very common.
It's not the majority.
Right.
Right.
And so this friend that I wastalking about, she started
pursuing– her writing againafter we like we were high
school friends and then we losttouch with she's older than I am
and she went to college you knowbefore I did and and moved moved
(10:26):
out we lost touch and then wegot back together again after
having our girls and um justhappened to live in the same
city and so we reconnected andso this was after my like okay
I'm gonna start creating againand so it's something that I
just shared with her And talkedabout, and we just talked about,
and it was like, okay, westarted building this community
(10:50):
of, she's like, okay, I want tostart writing again.
Like if you're going to, ifyou're doing it, I'm going to do
it.
Like I'm going to pursue mything and I'm going to start
going for it.
And it was, it was that momentof finally having somebody that
we could share and connect.
And, and, and those like littlesteps of telling our nervous
system, Hey, look, doing thisthing connects me to tribe.
(11:13):
Yeah.
Because it was that safe person.
Now, if I went and shared my artwith a family member, certain
family members, I would losethat sense of safety and tribe.
Because it's like, oh, I'm notaccepted.
I'm like, this isn't okay.
This isn't safe.
And it's that rejection thatmakes it feel like, oh, I can't
(11:36):
keep going on.
So if you've ever experiencedthat...
Don't get too hard on yourselfbecause this is just how we're
wired as human beings.
You know, I wonder if that'swhy, you know, in stories and
books or movies or whatever, thekind of theme of found family.
I love found family.
(11:57):
It's so good.
And everybody loves foundfamily.
Yeah.
Everyone wants that.
Everybody loves that and wantsthat and, you know, warms their
heart, right?
Yeah.
Feeling so accepted.
And it's because of that.
Most people are not born into afamily that, you know, like, I
(12:17):
don't know, everybody has theirown issues, right?
Every, every, everything,everyone has ways that they were
raised or beliefs that they wereraised with that.
when they grow, they want to,you know, go a different way or,
or grow out of, or, you know,things like that with whatever
it may be.
Right.
And, and so that sense offinding, finding your people,
(12:40):
right.
Finding your, your community oflike-minded people.
And, and that's a healthy andnormal thing too, you know, as
we grow and, and get older,we're supposed to kind of detach
from our, from our, our, corefamily, right?
And find our own life and ourown people.
And it's a normal, healthy thingto do.
And so we find our found familywith our interests and things
(13:04):
like that.
Anyway, so it's a powerfulthing.
It's a powerful thing.
And I think it's very universal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that moment of connectingwith her was really powerful for
her and it was really powerfulfor me.
Yeah.
And then a few years after that,I ended up moving again and
moving near you.
Yeah.
Which was awesome.
Yeah.
Same thing once again.
It strengthened that.
(13:25):
Oh, I have tribe in this.
And I didn't think about thisback then.
I didn't know about the nervoussystem.
I didn't make those connections.
But just looking back andrealizing how profound those
connections were in my journey.
Yeah, how impactful.
How impactful and gave me such–that boost and confidence and
(13:47):
ability to keep going even whenthings were hard because life at
the time felt impossible in somany other parts of my life and
yet I was still able to grow inthose ways and I credit that a
lot to you and my other friendwho were my support and were
there for me and for like thefirst time in my life I felt
really safe finally starting toshare my art because it was
(14:10):
championed it was cheered onlike I was cheered on I felt
like for other people around me,I was worthy.
And in a society that is solike, You have to be independent
and strong by yourself.
And it's like, okay, we're notmade that way.
Yeah.
We need community.
We need other people.
Yeah.
Like-minded people.
(14:31):
Right.
And like, yes, I need to find myown self-worth and have that
within me.
But having other people thatalso see that is only going to
help.
Yeah.
It makes such a huge difference.
And I mean, when, you know, wegot– lived together and– and
(14:51):
started getting it into arttogether, you know, at the same
time, that was super helpful forme too.
You know, like went both ways.
It was, it's, it was so helpfulto have like be in an
environment with another personwhere art was, um, and
creativity was loved andaccepted and wanted and valued
(15:13):
you know it made a hugedifference because then it
helped me break down some ofthose blocks and walls of and
start to be feeling, you know,start to feel like, okay, maybe,
maybe it is okay.
Maybe, you know, maybe it's notweird that I value this or, you
know, and, and open up more tothat and take those baby steps.
(15:36):
Those are the baby stages ofthis podcast.
Exactly.
Cause we had, I mean, these arethe kinds of conversations we
had, you know, even then severalyears ago.
Yeah.
So it's huge.
It really does make a hugedifference.
And coupled with the self-worth,that is so powerful, right?
(16:02):
Right.
Because you have to have both.
You do.
And I feel like they growtogether.
Yeah.
As your self-worth grows, I feellike you're able to– be more
present in that community in acommunity and really show up
more and then that strengthensand as your community
(16:23):
strengthens it helps you feellike you can be yourself more
and it's just like this you knowas you're serving and loving you
know another person especiallysomeone who has like similar
goals right to you and you'relike both working you know
parallel to each other workingon those things and yeah it does
it helps it helps build thatresilience and that confidence
(16:44):
and And, you know, thatself-worth.
Yeah, that strength.
Yeah, because another personsees it in you and you see it in
them.
And if you can value it in themand believe that so fully, you
know, it does help.
It does help you start.
turning that in on yourself andbe like oh okay I'm worthy of
(17:06):
yeah I'm worthy of these thingsthese things too like sometimes
I have that too yeah sometimesit's easier to love another
person you know and like seetheir worth and their value yeah
and like fully like believe itlike deep down and then start
harnessing that kind of energyfor yourself and and believe it
(17:26):
definitely you know It justhelps all around.
Yeah.
And having the consistency andthe repetition of somebody, you
know, pointing those things outin you, you know, and believing
in you and talking about yourstrengths like that, that helps
in the belief, you know, whenyou can't quite see it in
(17:47):
yourself.
Yeah.
It's really helpful to havethat.
Super helpful.
Yeah.
So my painting this week was asnail.
Which is just my symbol rightnow.
(18:12):
I love it.
I'm going to go and I'm going todo my little research on the
symbolism of what I was paintingthis week.
That's what I've been doing inmy journaling and all of that.
(18:32):
This one has a snail reaching upfor a raspberry.
It's got this raspberry plantthat's part of it.
It doesn't have the raspberryyet.
It's looking at it and reachingfor it.
raspberries are symbols of loveand kindness.
(18:53):
And so I was looking at this andthe snail is like this
representation of persistencyand tenacity and coming back to
yourself and believing inyourself, going at your own
pace, all of those things.
And so this combination of thesnail that is reaching for this
love and this kindness and inconnection with like, hey, I've
(19:15):
just dedicated this to my friendeven though I don't know what
this painting means.
It's like, you know, thekindest, most loving thing you
can do for yourself is to goafter your dreams, to do what
matters to you, to like takethose creative steps forward.
Like there's no other thing youcan do for yourself that is as
(19:37):
impactful and loving.
I love that so much.
Wow.
Mic drop.
Boom.
Boom.
So good.
How cool is that?
That you, you, you know, didn'teven know and then made that for
her and it just correlated soperfectly.
So powerfully.
(19:58):
And like, we were just like veryenergetically connected.
Yeah.
She, she texted me this morningright before we started
recording and was like, I sentout 10 new queries yesterday and
I'm going to do more today.
She's like, I'm, I'm being thesnail.
Oh, I love that.
(20:18):
That makes me really happy.
Yeah.
And it's just, it's beautifulbecause you know, she's able to
inspire me and I'm able toinspire her.
I was just going to say, howinspiring is that?
When we see people going fortheir dreams, it's so inspiring,
right?
It's so inspiring.
So yeah, that means that we canturn around and do that too.
Our reaching for our dreams isalso inspiring and worthy and
(20:41):
good, just like anybody else'sis worthy and good.
UNKNOWN (20:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (20:45):
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So start looking at yourcommunity and who could
potentially be your safe person.
It's worth it.
And who isn't.
Yes.
Oh, that's also.
In terms of creativity, becauseyou might have really good
people in your life, but theydon't get the creative side.
Right.
(21:08):
That's part of it is recognizingwho's safe to share with and who
isn't.
And that doesn't mean that youdon't love them or that you're
rejecting the person or anythingnegative about that person.
It just may not be the rightperson to share with.
You might just need anotherperson who really understands to
(21:29):
help you in that phase, in thatway.
They might not be your– yourcreative healing and growing
buddy.
Right.
And that's okay.
But you need to find, you needto find creative healing
buddies.
Yeah.
Growing buddies.
We have, we have differentpeople and, and they in
different areas of our lives.
Right.
(21:49):
Yeah.
And, and, So it's important toknow that not one person is
going to meet every single needthat we have.
And that's okay.
Yeah, that's perfectly fine.
But it's also important to knowhow our bodies and our systems
work and what we need to besuccessful in our goals.
(22:11):
And this is one of the thingsthat we found is so majorly
impactful.
Like either...
kind of make or break.
Yeah, really.
Like moving forward or lettingyourself get left behind.
You know, it's like, it'simportant.
It's a need.
Yeah, it's a need.
It's a need.
It's not just like somethingthat's really nice to have,
(22:32):
which it is, but it's kind ofimperative to moving forward.
I mean, there's that whole thingabout you become the, like the
five people that you spend themost time with, right?
Yep.
And there's a reason it'sbecause they're nervous.
Yeah, exactly.
And so finding people that arereaching for or living the kind
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of, you know, creativity and thelife that you want is going to
help you in that journey.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
That's it for today, friend.
Thanks for spending this timewith us.
We hope you're leaving with alittle more light, a little more
peace, and maybe even a nudge togo be creative just because it
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brings a little more joy to yourlife.
If anything in this episodespoke to your heart, sparked a
thought, or made you smile, we'dlove it if you'd follow the
show, leave a quick five-starreview, or share it with someone
who might need a little creativeencouragement too.
And remember, your creativitymatters.
Your voice matters.
You matter.
We're cheering you on Alwaysuntil next time, keep making,
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keep softening and keep showingup as your whole beautiful self.
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