#512 The Moon is Flat (And Other Economic Truths)

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
We have before us the opportunity to forge, for
ourselves and for futuregenerations, a new world order.
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Tony Arterburn takes on theissues facing our country,
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Thank you, Welcome to tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen.

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Welcome to tomorrow, ladies andgentlemen.
It is August 7th 2025.
I am your host, tony Arterburn.
I'm broadcasting from deepwithin the heart of Texas, at
the Denison location.
I do not have Beans the Brave,which is a weird feeling.

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She's in Arkansas.
She should be back down today.
So I will have my Chihuahua, mycompanion, my guardian against
bad vibes, intruders andwoodland creatures, next to me
very soon.
We've got a lot to cover.
I was just going over some of mynotes and I realized that

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yesterday was the anniversary ofthe first atomic bomb being
used and I was asked by TravisKnight today.
We'll get into this a littlebit later as an article up on
Lou Rockwell, but it reminded methat I had not used my tagline
in a long time about welcome totomorrow, and I got that from a

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song of my youth listening toMegadeth and it all kind of ties
together, the way that streamof consciousness works.
The term mega death was used bystatisticians and the people
that looked at the realities ofthe Cold War.
A mega death is a death of amillion people, so, like you

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know, they would cause so manymega deaths and that's where
Dave Mustaine got the idea forhis band name after he was
kicked out of metallica forbeing a little bit too wild, and
I was thinking about thatbecause I used uh his term uh
from one of his songs calledashes in your mouth, and it's
about the, the blowback of warand the, the darkness of that

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side of human nature.
And one of the taglines Iremember when I was a kid I was
training at Texas gym orsomething and thinking about my
future and going to the militaryand just I had, I think, a
continuity of my own timelinesomewhere deep embedded in me
and I feel like I was connectedto future and past somewhat.

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I mean because if I look backon my life, it seems like that
was supposed to happen, you know, and that's why I believe in
God and I believe that mankindhas a destiny.
But Welcome to Tomorrow wasthat tagline, and I thought when
I restarted the Art of Burnradio transmission, I thought
I'd open with that and I haven'tdone that in a long time, but

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it seems more appropriate thanever.
I was just looking at theheadlines on Drudge and James
Cameron.
The director warns of aTerminator style apocalypse if
AI is weaponized.
Apocalypse if AI is weaponized.

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And so I read that again and Ithought well, he's warning now,
but he's been warning it thewhole time.
It goes back to the originalterm.
We were brought up to understandthat once artificial
intelligence was able to takeover or to assert itself and see
humans as a threat, that itwould throw us off.

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You know it would, and thematrix taught us that.
I mean, there's so manydifferent post-apocalyptic
movies that in popular cultureand everything else.
I just wonder, though, ladiesand gentlemen, I f if you
actually use an interface withAI and you look at it and you
have it examine things.
And I've seen I'm actuallycatching up a little bit,

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because I was behind the curvewhile I was reading some books
on it, because I'm curious as towhat it can do, and I'm
wondering if all of this is justsome sort of conditioning.
We're being primed to believethat it's your overlord, you
know, to believe that it's yourmaster.
You have to be careful what youput into your mind.
I mean, obviously they'rebringing back their greatest

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hits with James Cameron's thing,telling us again that he
already told us that AI will beyou know, if it's weaponized,
will be a Terminator-styleapocalypse.
But thanks for the manywarnings there.
James Cameron, we've got a lotto cover today and I don't know
if I can get to everything, butI definitely will try.

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I've got an article up onActivist Post we want to talk
about with Michael Snyder and heasked the question is the?
Is the federal reserve tryingto hurt us on purpose?
So I think he answers his ownquestion.
But uh, let's jump into somestuff that's happening with
precious metals.
I'm going to do a little bit ofgold news and, um, we'll cover

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some spot prices for sure, herein the show, kind of talk a
little bit about what'shappening with silver.
Lots of, lots of movement uh,there in the.
Here in the show Kind of talk alittle bit about what's
happening with silver.
Lots of movement there in therealm of the white metal.
But let's go to Kitco and we'regoing to talk a little bit
about price forecasting, which Ithink is just like Citi here.

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I think it's just like Citihere.
Their Intel group is priceforecasting gold back to $3,500
an ounce by November on negativeUS outlook and geopolitical
risk.
And I think that they're righton the money because we have a

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lot of geopolitical risk.
If you're actually payingattention, the Grand Chessboard
is out of whack.
Ladies and gents, it's not whatit seems, and there's a lot of
chaos right now.
Banking giant Citi announced onMonday that it has raised its

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gold price forecast to $3,500per ounce over the next three
months, up from $3,300 in June.
Us growth and tariff-relatedinflation concerns are set to
remain elevated during 2H25,which, alongside a weaker dollar
, are set to drive goldmoderately higher to a new
all-time high, as the bank'sanalysts wrote.
All-time highs.
The bank's analyst wrote Citi'sexpected trading range for the
yellow metal was raised to$3,300 to $3,600, from $3,100

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back to $3,500.
So this is, I think you'regoing to start seeing more that
we've gone through this cyclewhere you know we opened up the
year with a lot of uh growth incrypto.
Uh, we just got through withthe the genius act and uh, the
stable coins.
I was reading earlier todaythere was a post up on the gold

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telegraphs x account.
It was talking about $256billion in dollar-backed stable
coins right now, which I thinkis just the beginning.
Folks, this digital revolutionis going on.
As I've always said, the dollaris not going to zero, the

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dollar is going to digital.
So we're going to see thatstart to happen, I believe,
through the public-privatepartnerships of stable coins and
, as Gold Telegraph talked aboutin the post itself.
He said now next step watch outfor gold-backed stable coins.

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Citi said their higher goldforecast is also supported by
weaker US labor data.
Yeah, and how did you like thefiring of the statistician
that's supposed to give you thelabor data in the last week?
I thought that was probably themost accurate marker on the
signpost ahead, like theTwilight Zone, where you get

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fired for sending out the statsand you don't fire the people
that gave you the actual numbers, you just fire the people that
tell you what the numbers are.
Increased concerns aboutinstitutional credibility of the
federal reserve and usstatistics and elevated
geopolitical risk related to theRussia-Ukraine conflict.

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Yeah, a lot of people thoughtthat the Russia-Ukraine conflict
was over.
We put that back in the box andI told everybody that's nowhere
near over.

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And if you look at what thegoals of NATO has always been
and the neons post-Cold War, theneed for the
military-industrial complex tohave that enemy, they like that
tension, they like thatpossibility of kinetic conflict
and, of course, they love theirpossibility of nuclear exchange.
They love all that.
So, no, I didn't think thatwould wind down, of course.
Trump just sent some nuclearsubmarines into the territory

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and we still have the evil,crazy Zelensky, because that is
an evil man.
If you look at Sun Tzu, whatdid Sun Tzu say about?
An evil man will rule over theashes of his country.
That man doesn't want peace atany price.
The bullish predictions are asharp departure from the bank's

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forecast from just six weeks ago.
In a report published inmid-June, citi's commodities
analysts lowered their goldprice forecast and warned
investors that a precious metalcould fall below $3,000 an ounce
by the end of the year.
Yeah, I don't see that.
If you look at the actualstrength of the markets and

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what's happening around theworld, you got to look at what
the largest holders of capitalare doing, and they're not
playing in these markets.
They are acquiring assets.
They are acquiring commodities,rare earth, minerals, copper,
gold, silver.

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Some of them are even startingstockpiling things that are
finite and looking at thingslike Bitcoin and cross-border
payment systems and, of course,always petroleum.
It's not the ethereal blue skythat the financial networks will

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tell you to dabble in becauseof the uncertainty, because of
the upheaval, and we are in afourth turning.
Ladies and gents.
We are in that cyclical part ofhistory, as I mentioned, and
we'll talk about what happenedat the end of the last fourth
turning.
Ladies and gents, we're in thatcyclical part of history, as I
mentioned, and and we'll talkabout what happened at the end
of the last fourth turning.
We're going to go to an articleand get into some deep history
on lou rockwellcom today aboutthe atomic bomb.

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The analyst said in june thatthey expect gold safe haven
allure to diminish heading into2026 as an economic conditions
improve.
Well, that's what they thoughtand I think just looking at the
tea leaves, looking into thegeopolitical reality of where we

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are now, I think it's hard toto be optimistic on the standard
economic system, isn't it just,given the uncertainty?
I mean, if you look ateverything that's happened with
bitcoin the strategic bitcoinreserve, the stockpile, the uh

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the cryptos are everything youknow, these companies that are
putting Bitcoin as a reserveasset on their balance sheet,
and we're starting Bitcointreasury companies all over the
world you would think the pricewould be a quarter of a million
or something.
But it stays in this volatilearea because even with the ETFs
and the supply shock and theexchanges and everything else,

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you'd think that the price wouldbe higher, but it's not.
It's not because of thevolatility in other parts of the
market.
It's ugly times ugly out thereand it's going to get weirder.
So that's why I think you know,watch the trends.
Folks Watch the trends.
Watch what the big capital isdoing.
They're acquiring assets,central banks certainly gobbling

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up gold as much as they can,and other countries, starting to
Even some countries in Africa,are nationalizing the mines, as
the Chinese certainly have.
They have 60,000 gold mines inChina and they're a net, net
importer, not exporter.
All right, let's go to.

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While we're on that vein, let'sgo to this article over on
Activist Posts and, by the way,if you can go over to
activistpostscom, let's put thisup on the screen real quick.
My friend Charlie Robinson.
He is the owner of this siteand fantastic news aggregation,

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no fluff, no filler.
You can subscribe to thewebsite as well and get updates.
But I know Charlie and I knowhis research and this is some
fantastic stuff.
Activistpostcom.
But he just reposted thisarticle from Michael Snyder

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which had some interestingstatistics.
We can always learn a littlesomething from Michael Snyder.
It says is the Federal Reservepurposely trying to destroy the
US economy?
Is the Federal Reservepurposely trying to destroy the
US economy?
It's a good Socratic method.
Is it purposely trying to do iton purpose?

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Yeah, definitely, to borrowfrom Charlie himself, it's a
controlled demolition.
Oops, they did it again.
Even though the housing markethas been in a depressed state
for an extended period of timeand even though economic
conditions are slowing down allover the country, the Federal
Reserve has once again refusedto lower interest rates.

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What in the world are theythinking?
I certainly share PresidentTrump's frustration with the Fed
.
Central banks all over theworld have been cutting rates,
but our central bank just won'tbudge.
Have Fed officials gonecompletely insane or are they
purposely trying to destroy theUS economy question?

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I'd like to get into that alittle bit with Michael Snyder.
First of all, the two positionslike we either get to get
interest rates as low aspossible, and if you look at
when rates raise and that'sJerome Powell raised rates
faster than any Fed chair inhistory it causes other nations,
it causes holders of dollars tofreeze those and put them in

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treasury bonds and otherinstruments where the interest
rate gives them a return, and soyou don't have this.
When you want to shrink themoney supply, that's what you do
you raise rates, you stop theQE and then again that will put
a tamper on to inflation.

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So that's one side of thespectrum.
Raised rates contract moneysupply.
When you lower rates, youexpand the money supply, so you
create inflation and that's thedueling.

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We have Trump's philosophy, orwhatever that is, with the
tariffs and the low rates andthe weak dollar.
The construction site with hislittle hat on going over budget
shortfalls.
You know losing $100 billionand you know the balance sheets
were somewhere like $980 billionshort a couple of years ago

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with the Federal Reserve and Ithought that was funny because
the people that make the moneylost money.
They literally make it and theylost money.
Money, they literally make itand they lost money.
But you have this, uh, you havethis philosophy from jerome
powell about a quote-unquotestrong dollar and holding off on
lowering interest rates.

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I think that and we'll get moreinto the article but I think
that at the end of the day, bothsides are wrong because you
have, ultimately, you're stillon the timeline for inflation.
You're still on the timelinefor a loss of purchasing power
with the dollar.
Dedoalorization is the reality.

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Those who have been following mywork for an extended period of
time already know that I'm not afan of the Federal Reserve at
all.
And now we have another veryclear example of the Fed's lack
of competence.
The Federal Reserve saidWednesday it is keeping its
benchmark interest ratesunchanged, citing elevated
uncertainty over the nation'seconomic outlook.

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Nation's economic outlook thedecision to hold rates steady
marks the continuation of theFed's wait-and-see strategy this
year as it monitors the impactof the Trump administration's
tariffs on consumer prices.
There were two Fed governorsthat did not agree with this
decision.
This was the first time since1993 that more than one Fed
governor had dissented and saidwho do you like for Fed chair?

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And he's like I don't think weneed one, I don't like anybody
for it, I don't want one that'smore like me.
I think you know.
Audit the Fed.

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Turn the currency back over tothe people.
Folks.
Let the Treasury.
We have a Treasury for a reason.
The Federal Reserve is not aconstitutional entity.
It exists outside of thepurview of the Constitution.
That was never changed.
We never added a constitutionalamendment saying that entities

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outside of Congress could printmoney instead of coin it, and it
could be something other thangold and silver, because that's
in the constitution.
So we never did that.
This was smoke and mirrors toput us here.
So it's it's kind of uh, it's,it's just a false argument.
It's like how many angels candance on the head of a pin.

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There's something we arearguing over, nonsense, or this
is Plato's Caves allegory writlarge over our body politic, and
especially in the finance.
For the first time since 1993,more than one Fed governor voted
against Fed Chair Jerome Powellin the committee's major

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decision.
The dissenters, governorsChristopher Waller and michelle
bowman, were both appointed bytrump and, like the like the
president, want to cut rates.
For months, trump has beenpressuring powell to cut rates,
currently between 4.25 percentand 4.5 percent, threatened to
fire him, appoint a shadow chairand even harangued him over the

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cost of improvements to thefed's office.
That was where you where youget the two of them in hard hats
.
There are some experts thatargue that we need to continue
to keep interest rates atelevated levels in order to get
inflation under control, michaelSnyder says.
I definitely acknowledge thatour seemingly endless cost of
living crisis is a major concern, but what about the housing

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market?
It has been in a depressedstate for a long time.
Last year, sales of existinghomes in the US fell to the
lowest level that we have seensince 1995.
Well, and again, do you knowwhy?
Somebody I saw the other daythey were doing a calculation
and I probably need to look andto see if I can validate this.

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But this was a post and ittalked about what would you need
in order to have minimum wagematch up to what it was 60 years
ago, where you could buy a home, what it would take, what would
minimum wage have to be?
And it was like it'd be had tobe like $66 an hour now for the

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same amount of purchasing power.
So all of that, folks, ininside the price of real estate
houses.
It literally houses inside thehouse.
It houses the failure of thecentral bank system, of fiat and
the experiment.

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That's what's happening.
So, when wages don't rise, whenyou have an entire generation of
people that are saddled by debt, they've been told to go out
and borrow to go to school.
The schools push for thestudent loans that you can't
bankrupt yourself out of.
They push for this.
They raise tuitions, they doall this stuff.
So you have this entiregeneration of people that were

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going to borrow all this money.
They already owe a house.
They already owe on what shouldbe a mortgage before they even
go to try to get a house, andthen they've been priced out of
the housing market mortgagebefore they even go to try to
get a house, and then they'vebeen priced out of the housing
market.
How don't you think, do youthink, that that has more to do
with the failure of thefinancial system and the loss of

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purchasing power and the dollarand these inflated home prices,
along with the declining orstagnant wage prices?
That's why you're seeing thisperfect storm where an entire
you know again the new, thefolks they're priced out of
these markets.
They have to wait for a housingbubble to burst, they have to
wait for and even then, and thenliquidity will dry up.

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So it's harder and harder toget ahead, and that's by design.
Sales of previously owned homes, which make up the vast
majority of the market, totaled4.06 million in 2024, the
National Association of Realtorssaid Friday.
That's the lowest level since1995, slightly below 2023's

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similarly anemic levels.
Well, this is, uh, I think, whatyou're seeing.
A lot of the bitcoiners make anargument for this, and we've
read articles like this aboutthose who want to acquire
digital assets over because theycan get into them.

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So you know you, you justYou've seen the pricing out
because of these bubbles andthis is where post-1973, folks,
you got to go back to 1973.
It's the last year that theUnited States ran a trade
surplus.
It's what built our country.
We used to make things, we usedto be the world's greatest
creditor and we were taken offthe gold standard and our

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manufacturing was sent overseas,and in large part due to the
design of the technocrats of theTrilateral Commission, a design
that created a consumer nation,which working these service

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jobs in a consumer nation along,you know, not making things
anymore, not having a livingwage.
So we built the new US economywas about housing and that's why
it became such a bubble.
That's what the 2008 debaclewas all about, and the subprime

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mortgages and the derivativesand everything that happened
with the bubble that burstbecause of the rising cost of
energy and everything else thatfollowed all of that from 2000,
the mid-2000s into 2008, and nowwe're seeing this is the end

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game of that.
It says things were not eventhis bad during the great
recession in 2008 and 2009.
The primary reason why homesare not selling is because
interest rates are way too high.
Is the Fed going to sit thereand watch the life get squeezed
out of the most importantpillars of our economy?

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Of course there are many punditsthat are pointing out today's
GDP number as evidence that theoverall economy is doing well.
Gross domestic product of someof goods and services activity
across the sprawling US economyjumped 3% for April through June
period, according to figuresadjusted for seasonality and
inflation.

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That topped the Dow Jonesestimate for 2.3% and helped
reverse a decline of 0.5% in thefirst quarter.
It came largely due to drop inimports, which subtract from the
total.
Well, another thing you have toadd into GDP numbers too, folks
.
It's like I was talking withTravis Knight today and I talked

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about the all-time high ofsilver, which was 45 years ago.
So I was zero years old in 1980, born in the last days of 1979.
I was zero years old, butsilver hit its all-time high of
$52.50.
What is $52.50 in today'snumbers?

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Well, it's like $300 inpurchasing power today.
So if you go by GDP, if you goby gross domestic product, if
the dollar's worth less butyou've increased the size or the
numbers, it's deceiving you canhave a higher gdp.
But if the dollar doesn't go asfar, it's not the same thing.
If you again, if you transferyou know 52 dollars into from

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1980 today, what's that going tobuy?
You certainly doesn't get you afull load of groceries.
It did in 1980.
You could go into safeway Ipromise you that in garland,
texas, and come out with bagsand bags of stuff, because
that's just what 5252 would doback then.
It doesn't do that today, andso those numbers can also be

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deceiving.
With Trump's double-digittariffs looming, american
retailers and manufacturersraced to order foreign goods
early in the year, before thelevies took effect.
That led to an unprecedentedflood of imports, which must be
subtracted from GDP the goodsthat consumers, companies and
the public sector bought becausethey're made overseas.

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Since those purchases werepulled forward, companies didn't
need to order as many goodsfrom other countries last
quarter and imports plunged 30.3percent.
Imports plunged 30.3 percent.
If you took away the 5.2percent points that were added

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to our GDP due to fallingimports, economic growth would
have been deeply negative lastquarter.
Well, of course it would be,because we're not really.
I mean, if you really wanted towatch this country have an
economic renaissance, what youwould do is you would have.
You would just completelyabolish the corporate income tax

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and, by the way, very smartpeople have already run this
simulation many times.
I've been reading about it foryears.
You would give an incentive.
You'd do carrot and stick, notjust stick.
You'd have carrot and stick.
You'd say, well, no corporateincome tax, put your company
here, build things, invest here,make things.
And if you don't, there's a 25%tariff on manufacturing goods

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and that's what replaced therevenue created by the corporate
income tax.
But if there was no corporateincome tax, america became
tax-free.
But we won't do that because ofthe World Economic Forum.
World Economic Forum and the UNhave a standard agreement on

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income tax, just like theCommunist Manifesto.
But that's the way you would doit.
That's the way america becamesuch a powerhouse is because we
had no income tax.
That was, uh, what made usfinancially dominant in the

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remnants of it, even past 1913,when we had the income tax.
It didn't really bleed intoAmerican culture until about the
mid-20th century, but now it'severywhere, doing what it's
supposed to do.
Let's get into this.

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Michael Snyder says I don'thave any confidence in the
numbers that the governmentgives us at this stage.
When president trump calledthem fake prior to the election,
he was right on target.
One survey found that 70 ofamericans are feeling anxiety
and depression due to finances.

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That wouldn't be happening ifour economy was in good shape.
Unfortunately, as long as theFederal Reserve keeps interest
rates at elevated levels, it'sgoing to be a real struggle to
turn things around.
Well, that's one way to look atit, and Michael Snyder is a
smart guy.
He's got the Economic Collapseblog and he does this every day.

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I would say, though, that thedevastation and it is demonic, I
mean it's truly evil.
If you look at what's happenedto people's incomes, what's
happened to their lifestyle,their purchasing power, the
decisions that people have hadto make because of the massive

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amount of inflation that's takenplace, because of the massive
amount of inflation that's takenplace, and you can get into the
larger conspiracy or the largerplan here and it wasn't about
COVID-19 for it.
It wasn't about that.
It's just these were sideshows.
The larger, you know, greatreset.

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You know the last quarter of2019, as I've mentioned many,
many times showed the largestexodus of CEOs in history.
Ceos were leaving theircompanies.
There was $6 trillion createdby the Federal Reserve Bank
alone to prop up the liquiditymarkets, the overnights, to

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clear checks and to clear loansand to clear everything else
because liquidity was drying up.
So they created new currency inthe trillions.
It's unprecedented and that'swhy it was important to have
lockdowns and everything elsethat you had in the first
quarter of 2020.
Uh, they needed a liquidityinjections without creating the

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inflation, at least the aftereffects.
What happens when you pump thosedollar units into the system,
be they paper or be theyelectronic?
People use them, they go buythings, the demand goes up.
This is what happened in 08, bythe way, there were so many
people flipping houses andborrowing against it.

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You get 125% alone against yourhouse in California in 2006,
2007.
I know that because I was inreal estate.
So you could borrow 125%.
And where did all that cash go?
It went to go buy things and itwould buy cheap things and
stuff from overseas.
Those plants overseas wouldmake that stuff, send them to

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Walmart and the price of energywent up Crude, if you remember
the timeline.
Crude started to go as $4 agallon for gasoline.
Crude started to go off the mapbecause the energy demand was
so high.
Well, guess what?
People had to decide whetherthey were going to buy gasoline
or whether they were going topay their mortgage because it

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was that tight.
So that whole house of cardscomes crumbling down.
That's what happens when youinject fake money into the
system and new currency units.
At first it looks like it'sgoing great money into the
system and new currency units.
At first it looks like it'sgoing great.
At first it looks like it'sreally happy and everything's
just moving like it should andthere's lots of optimism.

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But then those chickens comehome to roost and you sober up
and realize that you have to paythis bill and the price of
everything goes up because thedollars or the currency units go
down.
Does that make sense, folks?
This is the stuff that wakes meup at 3 am and I just go.

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That's not, you know, whenever Ithink, well, why am I opposed
to that?
Like I actually, you know,instinctively, I look at fiat
currency as demonic and I think,well, could you defend it?
You know, could you run theother side of the argument?
No, I can't, because Iconstantly try to figure out.
Why is it that I'm opposed tothis?

(35:11):
I'm opposed to it because I'mopposed to currency creations.
So this argument about loweringrates in the short term, he's
correct.
But the problem is that we'renot fixing the system.
So all of that, you may be ableto ride a little bit longer.
But this next bubble, you'retalking about the devaluation.

(35:32):
That's what it is, folks.
It's a great devaluation offiat currency.
This is worldwide, it'ssystemic, it's mal malignant,
it's metastasizing and it's in,it's invasive.
And that's why, if you'relooking at what the great

(35:54):
central banks, the big players,the multinationals, if you look
at what they're doing, they'rehoarding commodities in the face
of this.
And there's also an interestingpath, I think, for things like
Bitcoin, if you look at whatBlackRock's doing with it.
So pay attention to that.
You know whether the rates getlowered which they will, by the

(36:18):
way.
The rates will get lowered andwe're going into midterms, you
know, into next year.
There will be a lot of talkabout that.
The rates will get lower.
They will do something.
There will be liquidityinjection into the market.
You can take that to the bank.
That will happen.
So, regardless of all this,that's going to happen.

(36:40):
But the end result is alwaysinflation, loss of purchasing
power, and if you're savingthose Luciferian Bankster notes,
you're in bad shape.
All right, let me go to the chat.
Again, thanks for everybody forbeing here.
Let's see.

(37:03):
I see Knights of the Storm.
In the chat it says Charlie isa cool guy.
Yeah, charlie Robinson is thecoolest and has a great show
called Macroaggression.
So get over there and supportCharlie.
Over at the Activist Post andI'm sponsoring Wise Wolf and
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(37:23):
Over at Activist Post DustinHelm says hey, tony, good to see
you, it's good to see you,dustin, let's see Thunderhoe.
He's got lots of comments there.
Uh, I'm trying to keep up withwhat, uh, what he's asking me.

(37:45):
We got lots, lots going.
Are you a bot, sir?
Could be a bot.
Lots of bots.
Uh, dustin helm says good info.
Thank you, dustin, I appreciatethat.
And AI theorist over on YouTubeFreedom Cities yeah, that's

(38:05):
like the Patriot Act.
There's no freedom in a freedomcity.
There's no patriotism in thatact.
It's an act designed to goafter patriots is what that act
is for.
Yes, and Rhonda Tate, this isvery demonic.
It is a demonic system and youknow, be careful that you don't

(38:29):
fall into the trap.
It's like which one do you likebetter?
Do you like Coke or Pepsi?
I don't like diabetes, I don'tlike either one of those.
Do you like Republicans orDemocrats?
Which one are you?
What's that from the campaignwith Will Ferrell.
Is he a Taliban or is he anal-Qaeda?

(38:50):
He won't answer the question.
I don't like either.
Raise rates, don't raise rates.
How about no Fed and let's goback, give the people some sound
money.
Sound money comes from the termof the sound that it makes.
Uh, you know gold and silverhave a distinct ring to it, but

(39:10):
it was also the sound that itmakes and that it was sound.
It was built on sound principle.
All All right.
Well, there's lots to cover.
Briefly, I wanted to mentionthat I want to know more about
this and if you go and ask AIabout the moon landing, it has

(39:32):
not yet censored itself.
If you go ask it, I ask it whatthe mathematical chances were
of being able to go to the moonand then stop and not do it
again for, you know, 50 plusyears, if that was
mathematically probable.

(39:52):
And it has said it wasn't.
And it said that possiblythere's structures found or just
told not to go.
Same thing I've said, and Ididn't say that first.
It was interesting, but therewas an article up on Natural
News.
I'll just cover it for a second, then we'll end with this
article over on Lou Rockwell.
But it was supposedly NASA'sprepping to put a nuclear

(40:18):
reactor on the moon.
That's what they say, and youwonder why these stories come
out.
There's always like, oh, it'sgoing to be 2020, oh, it's going
to be 2024, oh, it's going tobe 2027.
So much wrong with that.
But uh, they don't know thatthe moon is flat.
So, the moon's flat.
You heard it here first.
They don't know that the moonis flat.

(40:39):
The moon's flat.
You heard it here first on theArterburn Radio transmission.
I need to get a flat moon shirt.
That would be a good one.
The moon is flat.
Actually, I have to give credit.
My friend Harrison Smithtweeted that years ago and that
made me chuckle and I'veremembered it ever since.
Let's jump over to Lou Rockwell,because I'm losing some time

(41:06):
here.
This hour goes by fast, doesn'tit?
All right, let's put LouRockwell up.
I try to cover the mosthard-hitting economic and
parapolitical news.
I can fit into an hourVirtually commercial-free,

(41:27):
although I'll try to plugLewRockwellcom.
80 years after the atomic bombs,it says, with unconscionable
carnage and up to 85 milliondeaths, the second world war was
the greatest catastrophe inhistory and since, in a sense,

(41:48):
the atomic bombs were an aptclimax to that orgy of butchery.
This is by jd green from thepremium insights.
I thought it was very well done.
He quotes Russell Kirk.
He says it will not be longbefore we are reduced to
savagery.
We are the barbarians in ourown empire.

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That's the conservative writer,russell Kirk, who was friends
with Pat Buchanan, one of hismentors.
He said 80 years ago today, theUS government committed one of
the awful acts in human history.
Three days later it did itagain.
Harry Truman insisted.

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The decision to vaporize orfatally eradicate almost a
quarter of a million civiliansplus a dozen American prisoners
of war was his and his alone.
Whether he meant as anacknowledgement or a confession,
this assertion was correct.
The buck stopped with him.
It was Harry Truman wholiterally gave him hell.
That was a give him hell.

(42:50):
Harry.
The president assured the world, and presumably his conscience,
that he had no choice.
Proud and stubborn, theJapanese would never surrender.
Nuclear weapons were the onlyway to end the war, in a sense
like an abortionist convincinghimself his victims aren't
really human.
Truman had to believe that,otherwise what would his actions

(43:13):
say about him?
Most Americans seem to accepthis argument.
Retroactive propaganda argued bythe destruction of two sizable
cities saved up to a millionlives that would have been lost
invading the islands.
Besides, the japs had it comingfor bombing pearl harbor, this

(43:34):
is.
But which Japs?
Leave aside FDR's pre-waractions intended to entice a
Japanese attack, hiroshima andNagasaki were filled with half a
million civilians who had nosay in what their government did
.
Were those the Japs that had itcoming, and why?
Almost four years earlier,2,400 Americans died on the date

(43:59):
which will live in infamy, thatwas december 7 1941.
Most were in the navy, plusover 200 in the army, about a
hundred marines and 68 civilians.
Nearly half the dead were onthe uss.
Arizona government officials intokyo and dc needed needed to

(44:20):
answer for that.
But did the mothers, infantsand elderly of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki?
How many of them picked thefight, gave the orders, flew the
planes and dropped the bombsthat killed Americans that
morning in Hawaii?
Dastardly as Pearl Harbor was,the attack was obviously trained
on military targets.

(44:41):
Atomic bomb advocates,including truman, suggested
hiroshima and nagasaki were tooprosperous.
Akin to wiping out waikikibecause pearl harbor was near
honolulu, truman grasped formore straws on the day nagasaki
was obliterated.
The president defended thefirst bombing by saying

(45:03):
hiroshima was an industrialcenter but its major factories
set far from the bullseye at thecenter of the city and little
boy, the other name for the bomb, left those largely unscathed.
And just a side note here, Ilearned from my friend James
Perloff, who wrote Truth is aLonely Warrior, that Nagasaki

(45:27):
was, he believes, targetedbecause it was the major
Christian epicenter in Japan.
It was like the center ofChristianity in Japan.
As historian Ralph Rykowondered, if Hiroshima was such
a vital military target, why wasit untouched by years of air
raids and excluded from BomberCommand's list of 33 primary

(45:50):
targets After the firebombing ofTokyo and Dresden earlier that
year?
Officials' angst over innocentlife carries little credibility.
The US government clearly hadfew qualms about killing
civilians.
Truman was caught chucklingduring his announcement of the
Hiroshima bombing at the 2.30mark.

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I'm not going to play it rightnow, just for lack of time.
Just for lack of time.
The president did acknowledgesome compunction.
During an inadvertentconfession he contemplated a
third bomb, or projected theidea.
As he put it to his cabinet theday after nagasaki.

(46:32):
The thought of wiping outanother hundred thousand people,
including all those kids thisis quotes, quotes was quote too
horrible to contemplate.
The president was well awarethe numbers of innocents he was
killing, including all thosekids.
But did the quarter milliondead Japanese save a million
Americans or millions, asPresident George HW Bush once

(46:56):
ludicrously claimed?
I've always heard that argument.
I thought that it wasridiculous if you actually just
dig deep into the history andwhere we were.
But I think the most ludicrousthing that George HW Bush ever
said was that the wingman forthe Japanese and he said this, I

(47:18):
believe, on the.
Was it the, that would havebeen the 50th anniversary of
Pearl Harbor he said that thewingman for the Japanese was the
America First Movement.
That was the wingman for theJapanese at Pearl Harbor.
That was the most ludicrousthing he ever said.

(47:42):
Again, the article continuesit's astounding that anyone
accepts this, but for decadesit's what Americans have been
taught.
They're expected to believethat an invasion of Japan would
have cost as many lives as thewar between the states and more
American loss than every othertheater of the second world war
combined.
Worst case scenarios for anipponese d-day come to fewer

(48:09):
than 50 000 american debt.
The estimate approaching the usdeath toll in vietnam is
obviously horrific, but it'sstill unrealistic.
An An invasion was nevernecessary to compel Japan to
give up.
Well, that's what I alwaysthought and that's why I thought
it was so strange and we'll getinto this as we finish the

(48:30):
article Trump was tweeting.
We live in such a this is theclown world order that we live
in that Trump's tweeting out, ortruthing out, you know,
unconditional surrender, in allcaps, with exclamation points
and like does he even know that?
And that was about Iran.

(48:51):
I mean, we've been through suchmind warfare, ladies and gents,
together, and we'll try to keepit, try to keep the analysis
sound and without any of thatinterference from whatever the
hell that was.
It's still in my head ascitizens of China, enemy

(49:13):
prisoners of war, and thepeoples of Pacific archipelagos
will attest.
The Japanese military wasvicious and barbaric, but by
1945, despite its persistentpride and notorious
intransigence it was on the cuspof defeat.
The imperial government knew itand it was prepared to
capitulate.

(49:33):
As Stanford professor BartonBernstein related in a New York
Times article preceding aSmithsonian exhibit
commemorating the 50thanniversary of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki, neither the atomicbomb nor the entry of the Soviet
Union into the war forcedJapan's unconditional surrender.
She was defeated before eitherof these events took place.

(49:58):
Weren't Barton's words?
He was quoting what BrigadierGeneral Bonnie fellers wrote to
General Douglas MacArthur soonafter vj day, as John Denson
relayed in his terrificAnthology the cost of war.
Another high-ranking militaryuh expressed similar sentiments.
Among them was Admiral WilliamLathie, who was chairman of the

(50:23):
Joint Chiefs during the war.
He says in my opinion, the useof this barbarous weapon at
Hiroshima and Nagasaki was nomaterial success in our war
against Japan.
Former president and retiredfive-star general Dwight
Eisenhower claimed with similarsentiment the Japanese were
ready to surrender and it wasn'tnecessary to hit them with such

(50:45):
an awful thing.
I hated to see our country bethe first to use such a weapon.
Major General JFC Fullerdescribed the bombings as a type
of war that would havedisgraced Tamerlane.
He also dispensed with thecommon justification.
Though to save a life islaudable, it in no way justifies

(51:07):
the employment of means whichrun counter to every precept of
humanity and the customs of war.
Should it do so, then, on thepretext of shortening a war and
saving lives, every imaginalatrocity can be justified.
Well, I quoted Voltaire earliertoday, just rattling around in

(51:28):
my head, when I was on the DavidKnight show those that can make
you believe absurdities canalso make you commit atrocities.
Dirtities can also make youcommit atrocities.
I'm seeing in the comments 804,marty says sounding great on
the international short wavestoday.

(51:49):
Tony Good, wwcr, worldwideChristian Radio.
We're on the old Bill Cooperfrequency frequency.
This isn't the convenientclarity of 2020 hindsight.
Skeptics were wearingcorrective lenses many months

(52:09):
before the enola gay left therunway.
Of course, the enola gay is theplane that delivered the bomb.
In january 1945, the japaneseoffered to surrender on terms
virtually identical to thosethey accepted after Nagasaki.
Macarthur informed FDR of thistwo days before the president
left for Yalta.
Leahy provided the informationand Truman himself later

(52:33):
corroborated.
The US accepted the overture.
Not only the devastation of theatomic bombs wouldn't have been
avoided, but Iwo Jima andOkinawa wouldn't have occurred,
sparing 20,000 American lives.
Yeah, I've never understood theconcept of unconditional

(52:54):
surrender.
Wouldn't you just want victory?
What if you just had victory?
What if you had the right kindof peace?
And pushing for that is thatCarthaginian peace, that
scorched earth, that humiliationof your enemy.
You can think of it inMachiavellian terms.
All you want, you can be aneocon.

(53:15):
You can think that, um, crushyour enemy totally and all the
rest.
But it never really works thatway.
Because they did that in worldwar one and the Kaiser fled and
they humiliated the Germanmilitary.
They put it in to disarray andthey had the bolsheviks

(53:38):
revolting and carrying out abloodletting.
In russia, communism wasunleashed because of the bankers
, the banksters, and then youhad the concept of the dolch
loss, the stab in the back, anda young, charismatic corporal

(53:59):
starting a German workers partymember.
Number eight would soon takepower.
And that's how that works.
You know, when you try tohumiliate an enemy, only had an

(54:21):
enemy.
The japanese kept fighting onlybecause the us required
unconditional surrender.
This destructive demand, whichtruman reiterated at potsdam,
had prolonged the war in europeand extended fighting in the
pacific.
The japanese assumed thoseterms included dethroning the
emperor, which they wouldn'tabide.
Truman knew this, yet insistedthe bombs be dropped, not at the

(54:41):
end of the war, which washappening anyway, but to send a
message to someone else, less tosubdue the Japanese than to
signal to the Soviets.
British scientist PMS Blackett,on one of Churchill's advisors,
wrote that dropping the bombswas the first major operation of

(55:03):
the Cold Diplomatic War withRussia.
They were opening shots of theCold War, with a quarter million
innocents lined against thewall.
It was years ago.
I bought a book from PatBuchanan, one of my heroes.
I never got to talk to Pat.
He doesn't do interviewsanymore but I loved his work.

(55:26):
I always will.
He's one of the smartest men.
It's history-wise and hiswriting skills I based a lot of
my whenever I do write columns.
I like the structure and theprose of Buchanan.
He's somebody to be studied.
But he wrote an autobiographyback in the 80s.

(55:49):
It was called Right From theBeginning and I always loved
that.
But he told a story about as aCatholic and a Christian being
in Japan and he had this youngJapanese woman waiting on him at
a restaurant and it justoccurred to him, you know,
seeing how polite she was andjust the kindness and everything

(56:12):
of the people, and he had thisoverwhelming feeling of guilt
and being an American and saidthat in his reflection this was
a book written in the 1980s,folks that he said we had no
right to do that.
And I think, as a warrior, asif you subscribe to the warrior

(56:33):
philosophy, as a warrior, as ifyou subscribe to the warrior
philosophy, the technology,these hideous things that are
produced and stored deep inthese government basements and
fortresses and other places anddeep underground military

(56:53):
installations, you know it is asobering thought to see who
actually controls them and whatkind of character they have, and
pray for peace, folks.
That was the culmination ofwhat happened at the last fourth
turning.
That was every 80 years or so.
You have these major upheavalsin civilization and there

(57:16):
they're culminating in a fourthturning.
Every turning is 20 years.
So this is where we're 80 yearson from this last event.
The Romans called it a saclarumand other civilizations.
See now that we have the wholeworld synced up at the same time
.
So we'll keep your eyes, youreyes open, keep your powder dry.

(57:40):
All right, let's do spot pricesand then get out of here.
I appreciate everybody beinghere today.
See, uh, I want to go back tothe chat real quick.
It says I've heard that all thepurple heart medals that were
given since World War II weremade an exception, an

(58:00):
expectation of the casualtiesprojected in the invasion of
Japan.
That's interesting.
I'll have to study that and seeif that's accurate.
All right, let's accurate.
All right, let's go to spotprices.
Gold, today trading up $3,389.

(58:24):
Luciferian Bankster Notes, lbnsFederal Reserve Notes per troy
ounce $3,389.02 as of right now,up $17.13 since the opening
bell.
Silver $38.16 per troy ouncefor the white metal.
So we're starting to see thoseinstitutions, folks.

(58:48):
We're starting to see thatgovernment balance sheets making
a difference on silver.
I believe it's physicaldelivery of silver and that's
the russians included.
The price of bitcoin 116 767,116 767.

(59:09):
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