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Tony Autburn takes on the issuesfacing our country,
civilization, and planet.
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The intro.
That is the order of things.
Welcome to the Arterburn radiotransmission, ladies and
gentlemen.
I am your host, Tony Arterburn.
I'm broadcasting in defiance ofglobalist goblins, the neocons,
and the new world order.
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She's here to protect us, keepus safe from woodland creatures,
intruders, and bad vibes.
It is the 2nd of October 2025.
Thanks for being here.
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still on for right now.
Can you believe I'm on YouTube?
You can find me at TonyArterburn on YouTube.
So uh so do that while it lasts.
And I'm on X at Tony Arterburnand the uh America Unplugged
channel over on Rumble.
So go check that out as well.
I'm working on some things.
I'm gonna do a rebranding soon.

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It's gonna be a lot of fun.
I've got some plans in mindsometime after uh November or in
November, somewhere I'm gonna dosome upgrades to the show.
But uh, I'm glad you're here.
It's the official broadcast ofthe apocalypse.
We're gonna go through someheadlines, and things are
happening faster than I hadanticipated.

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I guess um the old adage thatHemingway wrote about um how a
rich man went broke, he said uhgradually, then suddenly.
I think that's I think that'sholding true today.
I'm looking at the headlines forthe monetary system, which is my
wheelhouse.
It's parapolitics and preciousmetals, folks.
But um, that's the big story.

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And as a matter of fact, I'm notthe only one who thinks that.
I I was on Activist Postsearching for some articles for
today's show, and I came acrosssomething that my friend uh
Charlie Robinson had posted toActivist Post by Greg Reese.
And I'm gonna play the clip heretowards the end of the show, or

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maybe about halfway through,depending on what articles we
can get through.
But it was really, I think,apropos for the moment, it's
gonna follow something elsewe're gonna talk about today,
not only the monetary issues,but the cultural issues.
I see a geopolitical shifthappening.
And I think it's important foryou to pay attention to that.

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Not that this, not just aboutthe money stuff, but I'm talking
about the cultural shifts thatare happening that will
certainly guide the outcomes ofa lot of things that we've taken
for granted in our foreignpolicy and other realms uh that
will no longer be the same, eventhough they love to keep you in
that PSYOP.
They love to keep you capturedby the fulcrum of that mind war.

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But um things are changingbecause of the younger
generations.
And I want to read, and there'san article on natural news I
want to get into today.
Uh, but let's cover some let'scover some financial stuff
first.
Let's do that, let's jump intosome financial stuff because
this really is happening fasterthan any other time uh in our

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history when it comes to thedollar and when it comes to fiat
currency, uh, all of thatchanging so rapidly.
You really can't compare it toanything else.
As a matter of fact, I was onwith David Knight this morning,
and on live on the interview,someone asked about the silver

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to gold ratio and where itshould be.
And uh I said, well, it shouldbe about you know 10 to 10 to 1
or 20 to 1, somewhere in there.
And I said, the United Stateswas founded on a 16 to 1 silver
ratio, and that held that until1933, and then things got skewed
because Franklin Roosevelt didthis big financial heist, had

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you turn the gold in, and uhthey reevaluated from$20 an
ounce to$35 an ounce.
And I said all that history, andthen we started talking about
the 70s.
You know, we went off the goldstandard in 71, and then by the
end of 79, gold's$800 an ounce,and we were talking about the
gold-silver ratio.
And I said, I think that the 70sreally showed us um there was a

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period there, this briefinterlude where the price of
metals reflected the actualratios and what value was.
And I did the calculations onair, just had my phone
calculator, and uh the price ofsilver in 1980 compared to the
price of gold was 16 to 1.
So it was exactly what Ithought.
And I I never put thosecomparisons together.

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Now we're seeing the therevaluation take place.
And I think it's a really,really epical historic time,
folks.
Let me put this up on thescreen, by the way.
I forgot to do that.
I am my own producer, so bearwith me.
Let's stop that screen, put thisscreen up.
We're gonna go to KitCo.
I thought this was a was a goodarticle.

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Gold is not just monetary metal,it's a force of nature, says
Roger Robert Gottlieb.
Sorry, Robert, I didn't mean tomispronounce the name there.
Uh, gold's fresh rally to anall-time high above$3,800
continues to prove that thisbull run has no equal in recent
history and that the preciousmetal itself has become a force

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of nature, according to onemarket analyst.
In an interview with Kitco,Robert Gottlieb, an independent
precious metals industry expertand former managing director of
the precious metals desk at JPMorgan and HSBC, said that he
isn't attempting to guess howhigh gold might go, even as many

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banks and analysts have set atarget at 4,000 an ounce.
However, he added that he doessee this rally lasting for at
least three years, as long asPresident Donald Trump's
policies dominate the U.S.
economy.
Yeah, and I don't I think we'reeven past the point of policies

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that um we're talking about a uha reset of the financial system,
folks.
And uh I think he's gettingthat.
It's not even just aboutpolicies anymore.
Gold just continues to do whatit does.
Raise interest rates, gold goesup.
Lower interest rates goes, goldgoes up.
Um, you know, anything that'shappening right now with market

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conditions that used to swaythis thing one way or other in a
big way are no longer happening.
Godly batted that he does notwant to debate whether Trump's
policies are good or bad, but hesaid there are signs that are
creating geopolitical andeconomic uncertainty, which in
turn is fueling demand for gold.

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Well, that's the fear,uncertainty, and doubt.
That's the FUD, folks.
The Fed and the FUD.
Godly batted this trend startedin 2022 when the U.S.
government under President JoeBiden weaponized the U.S.
dollar against Russia for itsinvasion of Ukraine.
However, the diversificationtrend has intensified in the

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last few months under Trump asnations, including important
allies, navigate risingvolatility surging through
financial markets due to theglobal trade war and elevated
import tariffs.
He added that the world hasbecome a lot more fractured as
deglobalization trendsintensify.
Yeah, I mean, we lost we lostIndia.

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How do you do that?
We're driving the BRICS nations,Brazil, Russia, India, China,
South Africa, and then nowexpanding into all these
periphery nations.
It's about, you know, just thatstandard set alone is about 40%
of the world's population.
And we're doing everything wecan to make sure that they
huddle together while we becomemore isolated.

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Gold is a completely differentasset because of the global
geopolitical and economicuncertainty around the world.
Countries are starting to tellthemselves, hey, we need to
diversify away from the dollar.
And they're diversifying awayfrom the dollar because of the
end of globalization.
They are diversifying into goldbecause it's not fiat currency
and it's not the credit andfaith of any specific country.

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Well, that's very importantbecause money is trust.
Financial markets are built ontrust.
That's why when you have aneconomy in shambles, or you see
a uh third world country with acurrency implosion, it's because
trust, somewhere along the way,the property rights, something

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wasn't equitable, and trustdiminished, and then that starts
to collapse under its ownweight.
And that's why gold alwaysre-enters the fray.
Along with general economicuncertainty, there's also a
growing lack of faith in theU.S.
dollar and U.S.

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treasuries as the White Housetries to put political pressure
on the Federal Reserve toaggressively lower interest
rates.
Well, we've talked about this.
I mean, they want a weakerdollar, that is the stated goal.
And, you know, let's turn on themoney printer, money printer go
burr.

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And when you do that, and that'swhy it's and it's so insidious,
too.
If you read the history behindthis and why, even going back to
the 17th century, uh early 18thcentury, you look at the John
Law experiment with what Francedid and the first real you know

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uh fiat currency issued in inour era, you know, in the last
few hundred years.
When they issued it and how itjust expanded, everything seemed
great for a little while.
And those closest to it thatwere issuing the notes got to
buy the the goods and servicesand the commodities at the old

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pricing.
Meanwhile, there's this massiveincrease in the money supply.
So increase in the money supply,increase in prices, and the the
wage earner, the average person,the person who's just trying to
work and keep food on the table,that's who gets hit the most.
And so all of these things witha weaker dollar, it looks good
on paper to a lot of the WallStreet analysts, but make no

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mistake about it, it's theft.
It's pure theft and evil, by theway, because a lot of these
institutions and things thatwould never be around never
would have lasted this long,except for their proximity to
the counterfeit machine, to themachine that issues all of the
fake notes and fake money, andthey get to buy up all the

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things that are priced intoday's prices.
Meanwhile, there's a shock thathappens.
There's this delayed reaction,and then the prices increase,
and that's what we're seeingnow.
That's why the economy is nothealthy because of those
liquidity injections.
Godlieb told Kitco that the thisenvironment, central banks will

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continue to buy gold even atelevated and record high prices.
He noted that this unprecedentedrally, gold has surpassed the
euro to become the secondlargest asset held by central
banks.
I've talked about that for along time.
And he says, the euro is thethird biggest holding among uh
European central banks.

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If that doesn't screen by gold,then nothing does.
He said, that's what that's whatI've been saying.
Is that once you see thosemetrics when they this goes back
to 2021 when the Bank ofInternational Settlements uh
moved gold from a tier threeasset to a tier one, which is
currency, and then eventually itjust surpassed the euro.

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So gold's number two held bycentral banks for stability and
for their balance sheets.
Number one is the dollar.
Now, how fast do you thinkthat's eroding?
In his 30-year career, Gottliebhas worked with many central
banks helping them build theirgold reserves.
Gottlieb's insights come as hisas he prepares to launch a book,

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Mastering Gold and SilverMarkets Insights from a
legendary bullion bank trader,which is available for pre-order
on Amazon.
So go buy his book.
I'm gonna buy it.
Things are certainly differenttoday than they have been at any
time in the past.
I mean, I mentioned the 1970s,and there was this lull.
If you like the history of themonetary system like I do, or

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pricing, there's this lull fromyou know 1980 to about 2008,
where central banks just didn'tbuy gold.
And they'd put the they'd stampthe price down, they'd
manipulated it to keep it.
I I've interviewed StuartAngler, who's been on my show,
and he wrote the book calledRigged about the gold markets.

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And this was this was done onpurpose because when you show
the price of gold, you you know,if the gold continues to rise as
a uh in juxtaposition to thedollar, and I'm and you can look
at this as a metric.
The dollar's lost 45% of itspurchasing power against gold in

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the last year.
So, you know, treasuries aren'tlooking so good.
You know, the regular yoursavings account and feed the pig
isn't looking so good, CDsaren't looking so good, lost 45%
of its purchasing power.
So those that's a real war.
I mean, they had to keep theprice of gold down, and they
did, they did for a long time,and silver stayed nothing

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forever, and it baffled peopleand the you know the silver and
gold bugs and baffled peoplelike why how can they get away?
Well, they went away with it fora long time, they got away with
it for many, many, many years.
But eventually, you know,mathematics kicks in, and when I
say you know, from 1980 to about2009, there was almost zero

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percent uh purchasing of gold bycentral banks, and then you just
see that metric take off becausethat was the key indicator, that
was the watershed moment, theGFC, the great financial crisis,
2008-2009.
And things aren't going back theway that they were.
I think a lot of people thinkthat these are bubbles or that

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these pricing is about a healthyeconomy, or there's some you
know, rally and go.
I don't believe that.
I mean, you may have some slightpullback in pricing, but we're
way past that.
This has become this is this thetrue remonetization of the gold
era.
It's happening right now.
It's the last gold rash rushever.

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So far, emerging market centralbanks have been the most active
participants in gold, butGottlieb said that he thinks
it's only a matter of timebefore developed economy central
banks start to buy.
He added that along with theprice, time is also irrelevant
for central banks.
One central bank told me that ittakes ten years for a decision

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on gold to be made, he said.
Meanwhile, Gottlieb said thatChina could be an important
catalyst to drive developedmarkets central banks into the
marketplace.
And he's talking about smallercentral banks.
China has played a dominant rolein gold for the last three

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years, but its reserves now onlyrepresent about seven percent of
total foreign reserves.
Well, this is an important time,folks.
I mean, I read regardless ofwhat happens with central banks,
okay?
I read today that the analystsover at uh Goldman Sachs were

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just looking at private heldtreasuries, just U.S.
treasuries.
And their analysts are like,look, if if just 1% of private
holders, not just don't mentiongovernments, but if 1% of
private U.S.
treasury holders just flippedinto gold, then the price would
automatically surpass$5,000 anounce.

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And then you have uh JP Morgan'sintel saying, well, we we think
$6,000 an ounce gold before theend of the decade, somewhere
around 2029.
But that's all speculation, butit's based off of the metrics
today, which are perceived valueand you know, an AI rally or
different stocks or grossdomestic product or uh the

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consumer price index and all ofthat stuff that they throw out
there as these metrics ofeconomic health.
So it's all based off today.
So we don't even, you know, itmay become one day it may become
irrelevant how gold is priced,but this is an interesting thing
to watch.
All right, let's uh let's jumparound a little bit.

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Oh, I saw this too.
I wanted to bring this up.
Let's it's just a little blurp,but something interesting to
watch.
Let me X out of this screen andbring you bring you another
article that I found over onZero Hedge.
One second.
Melissa did remind me today toturn my phone off and uh I

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silenced it, but uh it's stillgoing off.
It's a lot of fun.
Uh let's see, uh let's put thisup.
This is Zero Hedge.
Interesting title.
Sexy Silver Surges is AI NeedsShine.
Silver continues marchinghigher.

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These note notes we'reapproaching 2011 highs.
And it shows uh silver trying tothat upper trend line.
This is charts and graphsshowing the 200-day silver
trading.
But it has a lot to do, and thenof course, silver miners and

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silver volatility.
Silver volatility has been morereactive to the upside compared
to gold volatility, but remainsbelow the highs we saw earlier
this year, chasing theunderlying here, is starting to
look like a slightly late trade.
But this is what they're showingin this metric is the AI
connection.
It says you need silver to runAI.

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Looks like silver is discountingan even bigger AI bull.
Something about that.
Something to pay attention toand in this monetary revolution,
folks.

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Alright.
I'll go to the chat reallyquick.
Let's check on the chat.
It's been a minute.
I'll check on the chat and thenI'm gonna go to an article
that's up on natural news.
And I want to end um talkingabout something that's on
anti-war.com.

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Alright, let's go to the chat.
I'm interested to see whatpeople are saying.
I'm getting so many calls rightnow.
Interesting.
Karen Carpenter says, Hey Tonyand Beans.
Well, hey Karen, good to seeyou.

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And I want to make sure I shouteverybody out.
Let's see.
Harp says, I'm now officiallystalking Tony on three
platforms.
You're a good man.
Appreciate that.
Stock me all you want.
You'd be the only one.
Kenny F and Power says, Hi, Tonyand Beans, the brave.
Gold and silver having anothergreat week.
Pull back today, but on the wayto be more record highs, no

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doubt.
Oh yeah.
We're gonna see some recordhighs.
It's gonna continue to go outthere.
It's just uh a matter of time.
I think we're really close tosilver's all-time high.
That's 45 years in the making.
I'll check over on uh on thelive chat over on Rumble.

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Good to see you guys.
Oh we gotta I see uh BrandonBennett's over there.
Harps you're stock, you'restalking me on three platforms,
Ark.
Oh, that's funny.
Possum King says the U.S.
wants all its eggs in the BBbasket.
I think that's right.
Uh well, not the US people, notthe United States, not us.

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Um maybe Zog does.
Alright.
That's my my chat shout out.
You guys can, if you gotanything in the chat, you know,
you know if you got a questionor you want something to throw
at me, I'm all I will go backand look at it periodically.
So you're welcome to do that.

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Yeah, I mentioned this today, JPMorgan flag six thousand dollar
Golden McQuestions on Fedindependence.
So the Fed independence that wespeak of is the push from the
executive branch to weaken thedollar.
So important to watch thatbattle play out.

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And um, not that I'm fooled byany of this, I think these are
the same institutions.
You know, like you had uh JanetYellen was head of the Federal
Reserve and then stepped downfor Jerome Powell, and then she
became the Treasury Secretary,and then she said we could fight
you know multiple wars at onceand fund everything, and so you
know, there's Janet Yellen foryou.

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Uh, but they're the same entityfor the most controlled by the
same entities, they're just uhdifferent outfits.
It's like uh you know, Taco Bellcompeting against KFC when
they're it's the same sameentity, same company.

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All right.
Um let's see.
I saw this article, thought itwas important.
You know, generationally as welook at uh geopolitics and uh
then after this I want to playthat video by Greg Reese.
Something else to think aboutbecause we've been talking about

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this for a while, but put thisup on the screen.
This is the future.
And uh it's been a wildernessfor those of us in whether you
want to call it conservativetalk or you want to call it uh
right wing or libertarian orwhatever.

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It's been a wilderness for manyyears, but uh I think the
younger generation is veryskeptical about the narrative
machine that has been theso-called right.
And uh this is article uhnatural news again, rising

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anti-Israel sentiment.
Charlie Kirk's letter toNetanyahu exposes the battle for
Gen Z's hearts and minds.
Kirk, a prominent conservativeactivist, described himself as a
surrogate for Israel in privatecorrespondence with Benjamin
Netanyahu.
Kirk warned Netanyahu thatIsrael was losing the

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information war and needed tocounter rising anti-Israel
sentiment, especially among GenZ.
Netanyahu praised Kirk for hisefforts to counter anti-Israel
narratives and disagreed withclaims that Israel was involved
in his assassination.
Yeah, we read that last week.
Caitlin Johnston wondered, youknow, why do you keep bringing

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that up?
The debate over Kirk's stance onIsrael highlights ideological
fractures within conservativeranks, with figures like
Marjorie Taylor Greenincreasingly critical of Israeli
actions.
The untimely death ofconservative activist Charlie
Kirk has stirred a wave ofintense debate, particularly

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regarding his close ties withIsrael and the Israeli
government.
And a May 2nd letter to IsraeliPrime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu, now revealed, Kirkdescribed himself as a surrogate
for Israel, a revelation thatsparked controversy and shed
light on the complexrelationship between an American
conservatism and Israeliinterest.

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The case not only highlights thegrowing anti-Israel sentiment in
the U.S., but also underscores acritical moment for conservative
solidarity.
Well, I just want to say therewhy I'm thinking of this too.
The ops being run right now tomake sure that everything is

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fractured is intense.
And I see this a lot throughinfluencers, and I you know, I
won't name names, but I seepeople that will have some great
stuff, maybe 70-80% of theirclips, and I'll watch them and
they'll say something great, andthen they'll just throw in some
racial thing.

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And I go, oh, there you are.
Now I see what you are.
You're just some, you're not,you're taking some great points
on traditionalism, on freemarkets, on liberty, on whatever
it is, on you know, the Americanspirit, on building things, and
you take that sp and then youthrow in some racial slurs and

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you go full tilt into that.
That way, all of that stuff isruined.
I see exactly who you are.
So I'm aware of it, and it is afracturing that's going on.
We didn't cause that, though.
The those of us in thepaleoconservatives,
libertarians, the oldtraditional guys, uh, we didn't

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cause this fracturing of thingson the Zionism front.
That was an implanted thing.
This was, you got to remember,the they called them the boat
people.
You know, you think about theCambodians or whatever, like
refugees out of when we bombedCambodia and other places in the

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Vietnam War, and you had theseboat people or the people, the
refugees in uh South Vietnam.
It goes back to thatnomenclature was they called
them the boat people of theMcGovern era.
So, you know, George McGovernruns for president, loses to
Richard Nixon in 1972.
This is before the Watergatescandal broke open.

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But that's when the neoconsflooded over into the Democratic
or the from the Democratic Partyto the Republican Party.
And the the hyper anti-Cold Wargot this weird amalgamation and
hybrid of being pro-Zionist andpro-Israel.
This is where it's and then theybring in the from decades of the

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Schofield Bible and otherthings, they bring in the uh uh
the evangelicals and all theother stuff.
And this makes this thing, youknow, where you know, you're if
you're anti-Soviet Union.
Remember, the reason that theneocons were anti-Soviet per se
is not because they wereanti-communists, it's because

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they didn't like the way Stalinran things.
They were Trotskyites, theybelieved in Leon Trotsky's
vision of the Soviet Union.
Um, so I mean, Irving Kristol isBill Kristol's father, was the
godfather of neoconservatism.
This is a fact, you know, andBill Kristol was one of those

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figures for my lifetime in the90s and early 2000s, was like
the intellectual head of what.
What they consideredconservatism, but this this was
the roots of that was Marxismand the love of Leon Trotsky and
revolution and and uh that ideaof liberating mankind.
That's why you see so much stuffin the early 2000s with with
Bush, and it has to be withabout democracy and uh

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democratizing mankind and youknow all of that stuff and
revolution and um those are verymuch uh neocon talking points.
They don't believe in uh they'renot Christians like that, they
don't believe in uh in peace oranything like what would be
represented in the NewTestament.
It's not about that, it's aboutrevolution, and that's why it's

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this this hijacking.
It's I talk about it uh atlength as anytime I do a show
about them, but it really comesdown to that.
And there was for the longesttime, and that's why it was a
road to nowhere.
You know, you really how do youhow do you balance having a a
view on on government spending?

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Let's say you're a fiscal hawkand you want to make sure the
government doesn't spend toomuch, or you want to rein in
spending or whatever, you know,and you want to be responsible.
How do you how do you have thatthought in your head?
But also we have to go to warforever in the Middle East.
We have to bomb all of thesecountries.
We have to do seven countries infive years, we have to spend

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trillions hunting down peoplethat we once trained.
We have to do this, or you know,like Lindsey Graham, he gets
really precious about thisstuff.

SPEAKER_02 (31:32):
They're gonna kill us all.

SPEAKER_00 (31:34):
And he he says that, by the way.
You can go, he said that I thinkhe said that on a in a live
debate about why we if we didn'tput 200,000 troops in Syria.
I've I've watched this stuff foryears.
So you can't have these twothings don't go together, you
know, and so it's like you havethis cognitive dissonance,
you're fighting yourself.
If if you even believe that, buta lot of the modern day, and I

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would when I ran for Congressand the things like people were
so like they would feel it too.
It's like I'm supposed tobelieve in economic prosperity,
but also wages should go down.
It's like I don't know.
People would try to I talk aboutthe you know the trade deals
being bad before Trump, by theway.

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This was before before Trump andbefore this was 2013-2014.
And so I was a little bit aheadof my time.
But I talked about all thatstuff and then talked about the
Federal Reserve and everythingelse, and then our endless wars.
I'm like, how do you have aconservative mindset, but you
don't want to conserve?
And to conserve would be, andwe'll get to that here in a
minute because there's somethingreally important I want to read

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on antiwar.com.
But that's the that's the thecrux of the matter.
You get to this and the thepsychotic break, I think, of of
what conservatism was supposedto be.
And the younger generation seesit plainly, because if you be,
you know, used to, and I'm sureit's still this way now, but

(33:01):
used to, I mean, when you becomesomewhat prominent in
conservative media, by the way,um, they never even I was never
picked.
Um, I came up with a class ofbroadcasters that all went on to
syndication and and um and goodfor them.
And I went a different pathbecause I never believed in any
of the stuff.
And but the first thing they do,they fly you to Israel.

(33:23):
You go to Israel, and that youhave to under like wonder why
that is.
It's because, in my opinion, ithas to do with the militaristic
side of the United States orthose, you know, Hearth and Home
and you know, sending Johnny offto war, all that stuff.
Those come from moreconservative Christian

(33:45):
backgrounds.
It doesn't have to necessarilybe Christian, but more
conservative, moreright-leaning.
That's more patriotic, morenationalistic.
So they capture that and thenthey say, well, if you really
love your country, then you'll,you know, have Israel's best
interest at heart.
It's a it's uh very brilliantthe way they are able to do

(34:08):
that.
And they just put those thingstogether.
And then over time, though, theideas fail because you can't be
both.
You can't put America first whenyou put Israel first.
It just doesn't work.
It's just the Bible says that.
You can't serve two masters.
You start serving two masters,you're just fractured.
You don't really, we reallyknow.

(34:29):
I mean, most of thesepoliticians, we know exactly.
I mean, when you look at alawmaker and they've got an
Israeli flag hanging in theiroffice, it's like, that's
bizarre.
You know, or the Floridacongressman who showed up in an
IDF uniform, you know, toCongress.
Like, who do you serve?
These are interesting questions.
And I think a lot of that's justmaking all this fall apart.

(34:51):
Charlie Kirk, founding uhfounder of Turning Point USA,
was known for his passionateadvocacy on college campuses.
In his letter to NetanyahuYahoo, Kirk expressed his deep
love for Israel and emphasizedthe need for Israel to address
rising anti-Israel sentiment,particularly among Generation Z.
He outlined seven key strategiesto counter misinformation and

(35:14):
win the information more,including promotion of daily
life in Israel and leveragingsocial media platforms like X.
Kirk urged Netanyahu not tosubcontract rhetorical defenses
of American surrogates, but stepup and take direct action.
He said Israel's losing theinformation more and needs a

(35:36):
communications intervention,Kirk bro.
Uh Kirk was just a kid.
He's only 31.
And he's already started.
Once you start seeing thingslike this, like I think he was
trying to figure out how do Imake this right?
How do I get them to see Israelthe way I see it?

(35:56):
And then once you've seensomebody cannot see it though.
You know, it grows on you.
On September 10th, Charlie Kirkwas assassinated during a speech
at Utah Valley University, anevent that shocked the nation
and reignited debates about histies to Israel.
Netanyahu dismissed any claimsof Israeli involvement in Kirk's
assassination, calling it amonstrous big lie.

(36:20):
Well, the mere fact that we'vereached a point where that's
even on the table, that showshow bad things have gone.
You know, because like if you ifyou look at APAC, like I asked
APAC, like, why would you opposea bill by Rand Paul?
Like APAC was the number oneopponent to a bill proposed by

(36:43):
Rand Paul, which I thought was,okay, let's see where the chops
are.
Rand Paul, years ago, 2012 orso, put a bill forth and said,
we stop all foreign aid to anycountry who burns the American
flag.
So, like out in public, ifyou're having you know rallies,
burning the American flag, thenwe don't send any more foreign

(37:05):
aid to you.
The number one opponent to thatwas Israel.
It was AIPAC.
And I asked them this in theirmeeting.
Why would you do that?
Why wouldn't you just be itwasn't opposing foreign aid?
They were just um they opposedany lessening of any foreign aid

(37:25):
because it would start, Iimagine it would start a foreign
aid conversation of what'snecessary.
The assassination of CharlieKirk not only spotlighted his
relationship with Israel, butalso illuminated the widening
ideological rifts with Americanconservatism.

(37:46):
Figures like Tucker Carlson andMarjorie Taylor Green have
shared their views on Kirk'srelationship with Israel, some
acknowledging his criticism ofNetanyahu's policies, while
others emphasize his dedicationto the Jewish state.
The internal debate underscoresthe challenges faced by
conservative leaders inbalancing support for Israel and

(38:07):
the emergence emerginganti-Israel sentiment among
younger generations.
The case of Charlie Kirk servesas a critical reminder of the
delicate balance between idideological dedication and
public perception.
Well, he was on the cusp ofrealizing some things if he'd

(38:31):
really dug deep.
And what it comes down to isindependence and sovereignty and
what is a nation state and howmuch foreign influence can we
tolerate, all the rest of thatinside of our politics.
And because it doesn't serveAmerican interests.

(38:53):
Good for Israel.
You dismantle a government,topple a regime, and that you
know, just like in 1983 or so, Ibelieve it was 1983, the Israeli
government flew F-16s over andbombed Osiris, which was the um
Iraqi nuclear power plant theFrench were helping them build.

(39:13):
And the Israelis just bombed it,just unilaterally blew it up.
And the reason they did that isthey didn't want any sort of
nuclear power rival in theirregion, so they just took it
into their own hands and blew itup.
And you can say, well, that'sthey're defending themselves.
Well, Israel has 300 nuclearweapons, they're not on the

(39:34):
books.
It's one of the reasons JFK hitthe roof when he found out they
were using our uranium and andthey were creating nuclear
proliferation, which he wasagainst because he was a man of
peace.
But they have 300 atomicweapons, and we act like, you
know, what the lessons of anywar like the Iraq war or Syria

(39:56):
or Libya is that if you don'thave nuclear weapons, you better
get them.
Because we'll invade you.
We don't respect yoursovereignty.
That's what that was about.
But it it didn't serve anyAmerican interest at all.
Actually, it's the opposite.
It was a looting of thetreasury, it um it accelerated
the moral decay of the UnitedStates of America, our

(40:18):
credibility, our fist, ourstanding, our fiscal house,
everything was just a terrible,evil thing to do.
If you look at it in retrospect,I mean I looked at it in real
time, by the way.
I thought it was a really stupidanybody who knows me, knew that
I went.
I was part of the infection ofIraq, so I know all about it.
Um and that was a really darktime.

(40:42):
But, you know, those things weregreat for Israel.
I mean, even Netanyahu, you cango look this quote up.
He said 9-11 was great forIsrael, and you can go into the
whole dancing Israelis, youcould go into who is lucky
Larry, you know, who's friendswith Netanyahu, or the all that
stuff, all the connections, allthe strangeness, and you can go

(41:04):
into that.
But at the end of the day, it'sjust about what's you know,
having a country, we these thisforeign influence is so
destructive because yeah, Israelhas a right to do whatever it's
gonna do to promote itself andits own interests and everything
else.
And then we have a right to go,well, that's BS, and I'm not
doing that.

(41:24):
You know, and that doesn't meanyou're anti-Semitic.
It means that I'm not gonna becontrolled by a nation state
that's not mine, that I don'thave any say in, that you know,
is a a Rothschild created entitywith the Balfour Declaration.
I I mean I'm not gonna go intoall that, but I think it's
impossible to have conservatismexist in the same space.

(41:46):
Because it that's more, again,these are the boat, the McGovern
boat people, the neocons, andthe rampant, you know, Zionism,
that's that comes out of the theleft, and that comes out of uh
revolution and all the otherstuff that you know is basically
Trotsky.
Um, so you're not gonna havethis, and of course we get you

(42:08):
have to deal with the which iswaning, by the way, the idolatry
of the evangelicals.
That's uh I grew up with that.
It's but how many souls werelost from Christianity?
How many people would have cometo know Christ had it not been
for all this warmongering andstuff that's really a turnoff?

(42:30):
You know, when you I put thisidolatry on a nation state that
has I've read the Bible and Iread it every day.
I'd have really no, I the thethe argument that uh we exist
solely to promote the state ofIsrael as Christians is such
nonsense.
And something I disagree withbefore instinctively, before I
even knew that I was couldintellectually back it up, just

(42:54):
thought it was a really dumbidea.
All right.
Uh we got about uh 15 minutesleft.
Let me switch gears a littlebit.
I want to play this uh video byGreg Reese, though.
Very important, coming off theheels of the Charlie Kirk
assassination.
And something I think is um thestrangeness, the high

(43:14):
strangeness around it.
We got into that a little bit,but let's let's go into this.
All right, this is uh it's overon Activist Post.
See if I can get let me pull itup first and then I'll share the
screen.

(43:35):
Digital uh Dementeo Face says uhI hope you're having a great
day.
Can't believe Silver hit 47.
I know and it's gonna continueto do that crazy stuff.
Alright.
Let's go to this is Greg ReeseSubstack via uh via activist

(43:58):
post.
One second, I need to put it.
It just started automaticallyplaying.
This is what happens when you'reon your own producer.
I'm not gonna bother beansthough.
She's she's taking a nap.

unknown (44:13):
Alright.

SPEAKER_00 (44:14):
Let's uh I want to put this video by Greg Reese.
Really great piece.
Let me play this.
One sec.
I don't know why it's taking me.
Let's see if I can get it to go,folks.
I really want to try.

SPEAKER_02 (44:38):
Right after the Charlie Kirk shooting, an
elderly George Zinn startedshouting that he was the
shooter, and later told policethat he did so in order to
distract them from the realshooter.
This is the same George Zinn whowas featured in a 9-11 memorial
video, even though he wasn'tthere and didn't know anyone who

(45:01):
was.

SPEAKER_01 (45:02):
We did have some idea, you know, there was
something going on because wedealt with uh um uh Ben Mayden
before uh in in Sanfordinstance.
So we did suspect that it wasAl-Qaeda involved in that.
You know, basically that's myexperience with what I went
through with 9-11.
I really didn't have anybody Iknew that was up there, but uh

(45:24):
somebody said that they haven'tseen that kind of unity in the
in the country since PearlHarbor in 1941, you know, when
we were brought together andthat kind of thing.
And uh anyway, God blessAmerica.
Uh it was a great, it was, Ican't say it's a great
experience.
It was an experience I'll alwaysremember.

(45:44):
And uh that's kind of my storyas far as where I was.

SPEAKER_02 (45:50):
The same George Zinn who was arrested in 2013, less
than a week after the BostonMarathon bombing, for emailing
the Salt Lake City Marathonabout placing bombs at the
finish line.
George Zinn has a history ofworking for the GOP as an
agitator and has just beenbrought up on child porn

(46:12):
charges.
Charlie Kirk's assassination wason September 10th.
A man named Tyler was arrestedas the suspected shooter.
The opening scene of the 1998film Snake Eyes takes place on
September 10th at a sports arenawhere a boxer named Tyler is
fighting.

(46:33):
Tyler's nickname is theexecutioner.
During the fight, a man namedCharles Kirkland is shot in the
neck.
My lucky number.

SPEAKER_01 (47:21):
I know that because I've got a little hate
compartment in my heart.

SPEAKER_02 (47:24):
Working full-time to cast the spell and divide the
masses, the mainstream mediaworks the left-wing cult, and
the alternative media works theright wing cult.
Solving the riddle of theCharlie Kirk PSYOP will do
nothing to stop the genocide ofthe Palestinian people, which is
an extremely important agendafor the U.S.

(47:46):
government.
And solving the riddle of theCharlie Kirk PSYOP will do
nothing to stop the fastapproaching digital ID carbon
tax surveillance system, whichis the main agenda in all of
this chaos.
And the AI control grid comeswith AI medical care for all.
You might not get Tylenol, butyou will get your very own

(48:10):
customized gene editing shot,and it will be based on your
digital profile.
Rather than being distracted byspells, now would be a good time
to make final preparations forthe imminent collapse of the US
dollar and to build something ofyour own for the future.
Those who are mentally,spiritually, and physically

(48:31):
prepared will undoubtedly farethe best.
Greg Reese reporting.

SPEAKER_00 (48:39):
Nice little warning there at the end.
And that's so true.
I thought even just, I mean, youcan put the reference in the
esoteric stuff, and there's aquestion mark that hangs over
that for me.
I definitely see it.
I'm not sure what kind ofpattern it represents or what
it's meant to tell us, but it isa all of it's a magic trick,
right?
And you get into your yourcults, which I like that that

(49:01):
description, you get into yourleft-wing cult or your
right-wing cult because you'recomfortable there.
You're, oh, I know thisnarrative.
You're being fed it like a newsfeed, you know.
And it's why I always tellpeople, don't listen to me, go
find it for yourself.
I I have not, I don't want tobuild a cult.
I don't want to build thatfollowing.
I want you, if you're listeningto me, get something of
relevance from it.
If you get something from theshow, maybe it's from from the

(49:21):
from the chaos of my mind ofwhat I've read over the past uh
40 years or whatever.
You know, take something fromit, but find out for yourself
and don't get caught up in thisbecause that's exactly what's
happening.
There is um, and then you'llnever fully escape it.
I mean, because everything hasto spell.
You gotta, you're under, youknow, some sort of mind control
to like, well, I gotta get up, Igotta pay all these bills, I

(49:43):
have to work, I have to do allyes, you do on so many levels.
Maybe it's not as much as wethink we do, but we're under
that.
And and the illusion of so muchof it, it's like, well, this
person's on my side, you know.
It's like what I was telling youearlier, I see it now, and maybe
you'll start to see it too,where you see these influencers
and I see these people andthey're raking in all this ad

(50:04):
money and all this stuff, andand then they'll say 80% of
stuff and it's awesome.
And then I'll look over andthere'll be like one of these
racist hacks in my chat, youknow, on Saturday where I'm
going, Oh, I see what you are.
You know, nice to meet you,officer.
Uh, did you go to Quantico?
You know, I see these people,and I I know exactly what it's

(50:25):
you take great ideas and thenyou destroy them by adding in
your nonsense, whether youbelieve it or not.
And I see you from a mile away.
And I'm not gonna engage withany of that stuff.
You know, like if you're in mychat, you want to say something
racist or you want to saysomething provocate, whatever,
just I'm gonna ban you.
I don't care.
I don't need you to look at mystuff.

(50:45):
I I would just talk to myselfprobably.
If I had if I had the if it'sjust me and Beans, I'd probably
do the show for an archive.
Um, this I when I started, I'mlike 518 episodes in or whatever
we are.
And I started episode one of therelaunch of my radio show.
I'm like, I'm leaving this formy son so he can go back and you
know listen to dad for years anduh see what I learned through

(51:09):
how many episodes.
So we'll see how many I can getout there.
But it is important not to becaught up in that that fulcrum
of the mind war, folks.
All right, let me go to the lastuh article of the day.
Really important.
This is antiwar.com.
Let's go down the list.

(51:32):
Is it still I still have it?
Oh, I have so many tabs open Ihave to there.
We go.
It's the last tab.
Antiwar.com.
War Chief Hegseth says U.S.
military is done withpolitically correct rules of
engagement.
U.S.
Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth,said in an address to hundreds

(51:56):
of generals and admirals onTuesday that there should be no
more, quote, politically correctrules of engagement for the U.S.
military as he presented hisrecently rebranded Department of
War as a ruthless force that canproduce overwhelming violence.
We're training warriors, notdefenders.
We fight wars to win, not todefend.

(52:17):
Defense is something you do allthe time.
It's inherently reactionary andcan lead to overreach and
mission creep.
War is something you dosparingly, Exeth told the crowd
of senior officers in Quantico.
On our own terms and with clearaims, we fight to win.
We unleash overwhelming andpunishing violence on the enemy.

(52:37):
We also don't fight with stupidrules of engagement.
We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate,
demoralize, hunt, and kill theenemies of our country.
No more politically correct andoverbearing rules of engagement.
Just common sense, maximumlethality and authority for war
fighters.

(52:59):
Well, Pete, I got a greatstrategy for you.
It'll work every time.
Just don't do that.
Don't go over there.
Don't, you know, don't get thethe anthem going over there.
Send the boys.
Don't do that.
Because there's nothing overthere.
It's just even, you know, therewas a moment of lucidity in the

(53:22):
Trump uh brain back in 2019 orso.
He's like, it's serious, justsand and death.
I remember that.
I was hosting InfoWars, and Igo, that's a great quote.
It's just sand and death.
Um, so maybe not do all of that.
The what the enemies of thiscountry are here.

(53:43):
They run stuff.
Um, they're the people that leftthe border open.
They're the governors and peoplethat leave the border open now,
and they have the authority toclose it and allow U.S.
citizens to be raped andmurdered or bring in giant
truckloads of whatever to poisonpeople.
I mean, that's hard for theChinese to do that.
They're not in charge.
It's hard for the Russians to dothat, they're not in charge.

(54:04):
And the Russians, the Russiansnever sent me into a no-win meat
grinder war for nothing.
That's not my enemy.
They certainly didn't bankruptme.
They didn't bankrupt the dollar.
They didn't do that.
They didn't put a patriot act inplace so that uh you're
surveilled and all of your datais stored underground in giant

(54:27):
cavernous uh dums of the deepunderground military bases with
all the servers and stuff.
They didn't do that.
No foreign nation did.
They certainly don't allow, Imean, if you want to talk about
war fighting, and there's a timeand place for that.
But we definitely haven't donethat in a while.

(54:49):
And the the the history of theDepartment of War, you know,
that was changed by Truman.
Truman changed it from thebecause it was a cataclysmic
thing.
I mean, we dropped, we unleashedthe power of the sun and dropped
it on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Nagasaki, by the way, was thelargest concentration of
Christians in Japan.
Um, and my friend James Perloffthinks that was no accident that

(55:11):
they actually used and droppedit on Christians.
Just a just a little side note,you can look that up for another
thing you can look up foryourself.
But that was that was the case.
And Truman, you know, for allhis faults, um he was a man of
peace in some way.
I mean, he really didn'tbelieve, he wasn't like
bloodthirsty.
And so he thought the Departmentof Defense was a better fit um

(55:34):
after being the Department ofWar.
And then he also changed, it'sthis is something they didn't
include in any of these littlerevisions, but I remember this
from reading a book, imaginethat, on my way to invade a
country, and this was a uh DavidMcCullough's biography of
Truman, but it's talked abouthow Truman also changed the
presidential seal.

(55:56):
And um he had the eagle used tolook towards the arrows, and he
had the eagle's face and beaktowards the olive branch.
So just something a little, youknow, I'm not opposed to
renaming something because thatsounds like you know, the war
department, that's where war is,you know, I get that.

(56:17):
But this whole I and I alsoagree with some of the things we
need to like unpc the military,but what what wars do we need to
fight?
Has anybody asked that lately?
What war, like Venezuela, isthat a war we need to fight?
What wars do we need to fight?
Do did our did our forefathersand did our ancestors and did

(56:39):
our predecessors, do they notearn us an equity of peace?
Do we have to throw it awayevery time?
I mean, 50 years of cold war, dowe not have a peace dividend?
Why didn't we use it?
Is it because we have to haveconstant, never-ending,
perpetual war for perpetualpeace?

(57:00):
The article goes on.

(57:23):
The Trump administration alsoconducted a brutal bombing
campaign in Yemen, whichHeggseth dubbed Operation
Roughrider from March 15th toMay 6th, that involved strikes
on residential buildings andenergy infrastructure and
migrant detention facilities.
Elsewhere in his speech onTuesday, Hegseth said his

(57:44):
message to U.S.
enemies was FAFO, a slang termfor for that stands for F around
and find out.
Well I wish we had more time.
But I think you get the essenceof what I'm trying to say.

(58:09):
You can always just not do that.
You know, we could actuallyrebuild the republic, which is a
great idea, and uh, you know,have a border and not a new
world order.
We could work on individualliberty, we could work on free
markets, we could work onderegulation, we could work on
decentralization, we work on allthat.
Uh we've had a peace dividend.
You know, the the 20th centurywas a slaughter pen.

(58:32):
It was a meat grinder, and itwas awful.
It was bankers' wars.
And if we got anything fromthat, can we have a peace
dividend?
Can't we just tell the storiesand really do history and show
what happened and not do thatagain?
Well, maybe it was maybe Platohwas right.
That only the dead have seen theend of war.

(58:53):
Perhaps um Plato, by the way,means broad shoulders because he
was a wrestler.
I don't make this stuff up.
All right, folks, we appreciateyou.
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(59:37):
So let us know if you need anyhelp with that.
Uh from Beans the Brave and thecrew and myself, everybody here,
Wise Wolf, you guys have a greatweekend.
I'll see you Saturday over onAmerica Unplugged.
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