The David Knight Show 6-16-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thank you.
In a world of deceit, tellingthe truth is a revolutionary act
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Speaker 1 (00:59):
It's the David Knight Show ¶¶, ¶¶ © transcript Emily

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Beynon.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, the clock struck 13, and this is Monday,
the 16th of June, year of ourLord, 2025.
I'm Tony Arterburn.
I'm filling in once again forthe great David Knight and also
Travis Knight.
It's been a long time sinceI've hosted and, ladies and
gentlemen, the equipment that Ihave has aged a lot, like me,

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but maybe not as gracefully, Ihope.
A lot of the stuff I haddoesn't work anymore.
So I'm running the show off alaptop and, uh, we're gonna get
through this.
It's uh went from sophisticatedto fisher price or something
like that, but we're gonna bejust fine.
I've got, uh, the legendary donjeffries in the second hour.
I've got billy ray valentine inthe third.

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Lots to cover.
Uh, I saw at least two realpsyops.
Uh, in the last 48 hours.
We can dive into today,parapolitics, precious metals,
all that good stuff for the nexttwo days.
I believe we're going to have avery special guest on Tuesday,
so tomorrow, and I'll mentionhim in a second because it made

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me laugh this morning goingthrough show research to see one
of his tweet responses toStephen King.
So, anyway, glad to be back.
It's been way too long.
So much to cover, so let's justjump right in and if you're in,
we're streaming.
I got everything set up, if youcan believe that.
We're on Rumble.

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We're on BitChute Live.
I've never done a BitChute Live, but we're on BitChute Live
today David's Twitter.
We're on my Twitter.
We're on my YouTube, at leastfor now until the overlords
throw me off.
But let's jump right into someheadlines.

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I saw this and it really caughtmy attention as a teachable
moment.
Let's start with this.
Let's start with the moniker,the nomenclature of the no Kings
protest.
Now, did anybody catch that?
That was something interesting.
I just heard it dropped, likeyou know, about a week or two

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ago, and I started asking whatdoes that mean?
And then finally, you kind ofdrill down to it and it's an
establishment left wing responseto the supposed, you know,
overreach of the Trumpadministration.
Maybe there is overreach, butthat was, this is their push
right.
It made me think about something.

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It's so funny when you do thiskind of show research and you
start thinking on a line oflogic, other things pop up.
I'll show you guys later thelast article I have today.
It kind of ties in with how I'mgoing to start in an
interesting way, like anotherpoint of view.
But when I heard the term nokings and this was, uh, you know

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, a protest that was nationwide.
Okay, so it's nationwide and uh, it's coordinated.
Okay, and it's, uh, you know,on trump's birthday and it's the
same day he has his militaryparade, all that stuff or the
ridiculousness of that.
But we're going to go into whatthat means anyway.
There's a newsweek article.
I know this is a good, we'regoing to lean into how this

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flows into the manipulation ofinformation, the manipulation of
news and what you're supposedto think.
Anyway, no kings, right.
And it made me think about the18th century encyclopedist.
There was, you know, this isthe 18th century like the, the

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edge of what you would, uh, whatwould be later referred to as
the enlightenment, and you havepeople like voltaire and you had
the um encyclopedist.
You had diderot.
Diderot had a quote I I readthis like 20 plus years ago but
it always stuck with me.
It was that mankind would notbe free until the last king was

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strangled with the entrails ofthe last priest.
And this is how those guysthought.
They were very anti-clerical,anti-religion, they didn't dare
not be Christian in some waybecause they couldn't replace
them the morals, they couldn'treplace the tradition, they
couldn't replace the structureof society, but they wanted to
tear down what had made it andit's always stuck out in my mind

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because it was really thecatalyst for things like the
French Revolution.
Mind, because it was really thecatalyst for things like the
French Revolution.
And if you look at how justbloody and awful and godless it
was, you know and of course theydidn't it wasn't necessarily
atheistic because they put, youknow, they placed the, they took
out all the relics from thechurch in places like Paris and

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they would replace them with,you know, images of science or
whatever they considered scienceat the time, and it'd be like
the Church of Reason and otherthings.
But it was a major bloodletting.
As a matter of fact I pulled upjust for some historical fun
before we get into the headlinesit's like during the French
Revolution, various events ledto significant loss of life.

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Various events led tosignificant loss of life.
This is between 1,176 and 1,614people were killed in September
alone of the Reign of Terrorthat was from 1793 to 94.
Estimates suggest 20,000 to40,000 people were killed.
Official death sentences 16,594were issued.

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This was supposed to be thecelebration of not having a king
.
That's what you know.
They marie antoinette, whonever actually said let them eat
cake, but, um, she was beheaded.
And uh, king louis the 16th wasbeheaded as well.
And there was all sorts ofunderlying historical forces

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going on there.
It's not just the surface levelstuff.
Even Thomas Paine, who wroteCommon Sense, it's like you
think of him as like an ally ofthe Enlightenment, or you know,
the throwing off of the AncienRegime, you know, all this, all
this, the historical forces thatwould produce somebody like
Thomas Paine.
Well, they almost killed ThomasPaine.

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I mean, that's, that's this,the historical forces that would
produce somebody like ThomasPayne.
Well, they almost killed ThomasPayne.
I mean, that's, that's howbloodthirsty they were.
And it was just an accidentthat somebody put the wrong
marking on his cell door.
So Thomas Payne, you know, wasover in in.
Paris at the time almost losthis life, so I watched that sort
of let me put things like oh,we shouldn't have no kings and

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all that.
Do you really believe that?
Is that the basis of what yourmotivation is?
I highly doubt it.
Let me put this on the screen.
We'll just look at this article.
Just you know, fun times to thenomenclature always makes me

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pause and think so.
Anti-trump, no kings protestsit's spread across the nation.
Multiple groups carried outdemonstrations against president
donald trump's military paradein washington dc on saturday,
the most prominent of which wasthe no kings protest that spread
to many states.
Well, you know, to have acoordinated nationwide protest I

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hate to spoil all the fun, andI usually do for politics but it
has to be funded.
You have to.
But it has to be funded.
You have to be funded.
It has to be coordinated by anupper-level management.
Nothing really truly is organicladies and gentlemen, especially

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when you talk about somethingthat gets branded in a very
short period of time.
You probably have MadisonAvenue involved in this.
You've got you know newsoutlets and I'm going to show
you some real live propaganda.
I mean, you guys have probablyalready seen it, but it's a
lesson in mind control.
We're going to go over here ina second.

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Several protests have alreadytaken place against Trump and
his administration's policy,especially in the aftermath of
his decision to deploy theNational Guard and Marines to
Los Angeles.
Most of the protests in LosAngeles have been peaceful, but
some have taken the opportunityto burn or vandalize property,
loot and throw projectiles atlaw enforcement.

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Trump responded to theseincidents with his military
deployments, but doing soagainst the wishes of California
Governor Gavin Newsom and LosAngeles Mayor Karen Boss,
escalating the situation andtensions with the Democratic
leaders.
Similarly, the protests onSaturday have largely remained
peaceful, with littleinteraction between law

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enforcement and protesters, butas the afternoon dragged on,
tensions between los angeles andnew york city started to rise
and small clashes broke out.
Well, fun times right, and Idon't.
This is like a delayed reaction.
We're finally going to get whatwe were seeing in 2020 which,

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which you know coordinatedefforts across the country,
flying people back and forth,dropping off the pallets of
bricks.
It's probably like a meldingbetween high level finance,
intelligence, power structurejust trying to disrupt whatever
we have going on here in thecountry.
So make sure we're neveractually content or, you know,

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have a peaceful mindset so wecan think and plan ahead, and
you're always going to keep up,kind of like a military
operation.
Actually it is a militaryoperation for tempo right,
keeping the pace ahead of you,so you can never really fully
grasp what's going on.
They get to the next level, thenext thing, fully grasp what's
going on.

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They get to the next level, thenext thing.
And uh, if you're not, if youdon't have any continuity of
what happened 5, 10, 15, 20years ago, if you just kind of
go with the news cycles, thenyou're I mean you're in trouble
and I'll show you how muchtrouble you're in.
You go look at something likeum, let's look at this article
first.
First headline of drudge okay,and we go through the Minnesota

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shooter.
I just want to show you thisbecause this is what stuck with
me as being just such ateachable moment Like this is
how propaganda is made.
This is Operation Mockingbird2.0 or whatever you want to call

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it, and the fractured legacymedia, you know, and they've got
outlets like Drudge, but it'sthe fracturing of that and even
based off partisanship.
It's harder and harder to keepyour mind clear of propaganda,

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but we'll do our best here.
On the David Knight Show here,let me share this screen.
Let me just show you reallyquick the headline of Drudge,
because we're this is what we'reinundated with.
He's a MAGA maniac, okay, magamaniac.
Okay, you know this goesmurders two different couples
lawmakers in minnesota this youknow, evil, nut job, and.

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But he's a maga maniac, right?
So if you're just tuning in to,you know, just going to scour
the headlines and see you beforeyou actually read an article,
if you want to look at what'shappening, there's your MAGA
maniac.
He's a devout Christian Votedfor Trump, right?

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That's what Drudge says.
He's a MAGA maniac, so theyjust label him that.
So if you voted for Trump or ifyou're considered, on the right
, whatever that means anymore,but conservative.
If maybe you're a Christian, youput yourself in that camp.
Now you've got your own MAGAmaniac.

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That's what Drudge says.
Maniac, that's what drudge says.
But if you go to I mean, thisis yesterday just looking at the
headlines, you know, going toplaces like zero hedge, let's
pull up zero hedge, let's find alittle bit more, but that's
what drudge has right there.
Just, we're going to go aheadand make that the news, which

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you know.
The news is an acronym.
It's northeast, west and south.
It's the lay of the land.
It's what news is supposed tomean?
Right, you've got to get anaccurate depiction of the lay of
the land.
And so you're looking at it andsaying, oh okay, well, we've
got ourselves a mega maniac here.
Well, not so fast, let's pullup Zero Hedge from yesterday and

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I think they updated it, whichflows together with my first
article no Kings Terror, fakecop assassinates.
Minnesota Democrat who blockedhealth care for illegals.
Breaking Left-wing Dem activistnamed in shooting of minnesota

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moderate dems, a democratactivist and 29 2019 appointee
of governor tim walls.
Both are, but this is againvance lutherter.
A Democrat activist in 2019 andappointee of Governor Tim Walz

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is the suspect in a targetedshooting of Minnesota lawmakers
Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman.
Both are moderate Democrats,but you keep going scrolling
down.
Boulter posed as a policeofficer when he first shot

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senator john hoffman and hiswife at home early saturday,
leaving them seriously injured.
He then proceeded to the homeof former democratic house
speaker melissa hortman, wherehe fatally shot her and her
husband.
Two shootings were locatedseveral miles apart in northern
Minneapolis.
Police engaged the suspect in ahail of gunfire at Hortman's

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home, but he managed to escapeon foot.
Screenshots from suspectedMinnesota attacker Vance Luther
Bolter's public LinkedIn beforeit was taken down, fourth image,
shows he indeed volunteered forthe governor's workforce
development board in Minnesota.
It says Tim Walls has a lot ofexplaining to do.

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You see where I'm getting withthis?
Like somewhere in the middle isthe truth right.
So it's in the extreme.
You've got he's a, he's a MAGAmaniac, and on the other side
it's like we're preloaded to tryto keep any kind of you know
mass shooter or defective personout of whatever desired camp.

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You know we got to keep themout of that.
But it's interesting.
I mean it's probably more.
I think the zero hedge leansmore into the truth of where we
actually is.
But that's how the mind controlworks.
But he's also running it, ofcourse.

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He is this just like you know,mid-summertime we had a year ago
.
We're coming up on a year sincethe assassination attempt, the
first one on Trump inPennsylvania.
And then you have the guy thatthey caught in the bushes with

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an AK at the golf course.
I forget his name offhand, butmean he was clearly in tight.
It has tied to ngos andintelligence and he was
recruiting people from aroundthe world, like recruiting
afghans to get them to go fightin ukraine.
And if you listen to the guyspeak, I'm like, oh, that's an

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operator.
Like the way that he's, there'sa certain mindset and dialect
and a lot of those people havethat.
I've heard before.
They also have that same kindof spirit of just war for the
sake of it.
It's um, it's like they're,it's their raison d'etre, it's
their whole purpose.
So they've really given theirlife over to.

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It's like a deity they worshipand it's's like hot wars.
They've got to get into them.
You can hear it in the people,especially if Dan Crenshaw is
one of those people.
Like a second congressionaldistrict of Texas, he's very
much like he has a reflexive.
It's painful for him to hearanything that is peaceful or

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anti-war or getting out ofplaces that are no-win or
something.
He has a reflexive physicalreaction to getting out of
Afghanistan or leaving Iraq.
I've seen him answer questionson it, which is interesting.
There's a spirit to it.
So this is what the Vance Bolterwas running.
This international NGO iscalled the Red Lion Group.

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Running this international NGO.
It's called the Red Lion Group.
Reading this description ofwhat they're supposedly trying
to do reads like pure NGO fraud.
And this guy was trying tosiphon a salary at an expense
account.
Well, this NGO stuff,non-governmental organization,
which you know they getinternational, they get 5013C

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stat or whatever.
They get.
Right back to intelligence,ladies and gentlemen.
He was also connected to aMinnesota entity called you Give
them Something to Eat.
Incorporated.
Well fun times, right.
Well, fun times, right.

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Uh, this is.
And he, oh, he was.
He also had the no kings flyersin his car.
The passport was found in therebel.
You know this is they leave.
You know these clues likebreadcrumbs.
Wasn't the?
I need to dig back into 9-11.
I should do like a Paratrooperseries.
Myself and Mr Anderson talkabout it all the time.
There's just so much to breakdown, like how great, like the

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they left the hijackers left inthe rental car, like a copy of
the Quran and a couple of otherlike detailed things, old flight
manuals, stuff like that in thecar that they know would be
found.
Yeah, the New York Post notedthat Bolter left behind a

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manifesto listing the names of70 politicians, including Walz
and his lieutenant governor,peggy Flanagan, and a stack of
papers stating no kings inreference to the nationwide
anti-Trump protest.
But he's a magamaniac, you know.

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Yeah, this is again real, realtime propaganda of the highest
order.
See, this is like colonizingyour mind.
This is what it's supposed to do, or pick up on people who won't
read any further.
Right, you're just going to becaptured by that fulcrum of
whatever that outlet wants youto think.

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That's how important it is foryou to not believe anything like
that.
Just start with that's a lieand then reverse engineer it,
just walk it backwards.
How much truth is in thatheadline?
And, by the way, that filtersinto financial headlines as well

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and clickbait.
That's why shows like this theDavid Knight show is a treasure
and I've known David for yearsand the amount of research that
he does and Travis does and theamount of thinking that has to
go into a three-hour show.
First of all, david comes froma place of just wanting to know
the truth, just wanting to seekthat, and I know his character

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and I've seen him and I'vewatched him In the face of
pressure and like the face of.
We all have to go through this.
Now that those of us who aretrying to be have some
discernment in this world whereyou're trying to be the best
analyst, you can be in the faceof all the partisanship and the

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propaganda and the nonsense.
And, yeah, you have to watchyour audience leave, which is
really tough to do.
You know, as a broadcaster, I'vebeen in radio since 2013.
It was my first show out ofDallas and I enjoy radio.
I've listened to radio since Iwas a kid.
I love podcasting, love radiolike spoken word.
I like the ideas and I know how.

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I've watched people that I waswith.
You know get syndicated andeverything else.
But I didn't believe what theyand, by the way, they weren't
right, but that doesn't matter.
It's because you get to watch.
You have to if you stick withprinciple, and that's why I'm so

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uh honored to to fill in fordavid when I can, and uh
hopefully uh do him justice here, because I know he cares so
much about the truth and warningpeople and and uh giving his
best analysis in the face ofeverything that's going on, and
it's that's the type of andthat's just a small example of-
the type of um, psychologicalwarfare that we're up against.
You have to clear through somuch of the headlines.
That's why David is such atreasure.

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All right, let's jump into thislittle bit of financial stuff.
And you guys watched and we'regoing to talk in this show and
probably tomorrow too but aboutthe Israeli strike on Iran and
the war pigs that want to get at, the neocon automatons for

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Satan who want us to jump highlevel into a new unwinnable,
unconstitutional war.
A new unwinnable,unconstitutional war.
Let me pull this up.
Let's talk a little financereal quick.
This is in direct correlationof what happened post-strike on

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Iran.
This is Kitco, so safe havendisconnect.
This is Kitco Safe HavenDisconnect.
And there's a reason I pickedthis article over, like the

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other seven, the other sevenarticles that talked about why
gold spikes after the strike,and some of that you know, it's
just typical stuff that golddoes, but there's something else
.
A safe haven disconnect, Goldsoars while the dollar stalls.
Conflict has once again eruptedin the Middle East following
Israeli attacks on Iran.

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Surprisingly, however, theglobal economy has remained
relatively unshaken, asfinancial markets have not
responded in the way one mighthave predicted an outcome that
could carry significantimplications for gold moving
forward.
As expected, Israel'spreemptive strike triggered a

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sell-off in equity markets and aspike in oil prices.
At the same time, safe havendemand pushed gold prices to
their highest level sinceApril's all-time record high of
$3,500.
Yet the biggest surprise isthat bond yields and the US
dollar have barely moved.

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Okay, that's the reason whydollar have barely moved.
Okay, that's the that's thereason why I chose this article.
That's, that's the tell.
Because the system andeverything you've judged on the
past, you know like again we'rein this season of war or season
of uncertainty.
You get spikes and prices,things like gold.
People run into goes, countriesrun to go oh, we've seen that a

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time and time again.
But the metrics and all thestuff that used to work, like
when you raise interest rates,like Jerome Powell has, you
could lose the price of goldsupposed to go down like it did
in 2011 when there was showingsome strength in the dollar.
All that stuff that happened inthe past.

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You would see a decline in goldprice.
It doesn't happen anymore.
Now you're seeing that the USdollar and the bond yields they
don't move.
The gold market is ending theweek with a 3.7% gain, while the
US dollar appears poised toclose the week with a 1% loss,

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trading at its lowest level inroughly three years.
The weakness in the US dollar issurprising given the current
environment.
The US economy is generallyviewed as a stable anchor for
the global economy.
When fear rises, investorstraditionally seek safe assets
to preserve capital, typicallyUS dollars and treasuries, long

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considered top-tier safe havenassets.
In such scenarios, safe havendemand typically drives both the
US dollar and gold higher intandem.
See, they're decoupling.
This is where you get to seelike stress tests for the global

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monetary system what we've justtaken for granted like.
Well, today will be likeyesterday, because that's what
the day before was like and allthe rest, and like you can get
normalcy bias, it sneaks up onyou.
This is how rapidly the globalfinancial system is changing,
even in the face of something intraditionally yes, the spike in

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crude oil prices.
I talked to my good friend who'sabout to be over in the middle
east and travels a lot becausehe's in the uh, works for a
large oil company and a really,really smart guy.
I talked to him aboutgeopolitics and the price of
crude and where it's going andenergy and all the rest, and
we're on the same page.
You know this.
This is going to see a,especially if something happens

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with the Strait of Hormuz and,you know, a further widening of
the war, which is could bealready baked into all this.
I mean, that's maybe what theplanners want to do.
This is the opening round ofSalvo, whatever it is.
We have to really pay attentionto the headlines here and I'll

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be talking with Donald Jeffrieshere in the second hour.
He's got a new article out andI want to touch on this as well,
but there's a lot to unpack theG, the point of this and this
article.
The reason I brought it up wasthe, the change right, they're
subtle.
It's kind of like you go backto 2022, you have Russia invades

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Ukraine, finally goaded by NATOto do that.
They just pushed into that, inmy opinion, and that was the
point of it, and sanctions wereplaced in this massive fall in
the purchasing power of theruble and ruble just has this
free fall.
All of a sudden there's thisreset in Russian financial

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policy and then they talk aboutpegging some of the ruble to
gold, or so many grams based offso many rubles, and there's
this recovery and it happenswithin 90 days.
But during that time the USdollar starts to lose its

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hegemony.
I mean, it went from high 50sin usage around the world to low
40s and that continues tohappen.
That's called de-dollarizationand this is a good example the
world.
And it's funny because I wastalking to Travis last week and
I'd covered this like a year agobut they put out the article
that said that gold supplantedthe euro as the second held most

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tiered reserve asset forcentral banks.
So the euro used to be numbertwo, Now it's gold.
Number one is the dollar.
So only one more to go.
Gold is already the world'sreserve currency.
Folks 's, it's I.
I said that on tinfoil hat indecember.
I'm like I, I really believethat it's just in name only.

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They're still denominated andhaving to do business in dollars
.
Nobody's running into thedollar.
Not like that, not like it usedto.
It used to like, just like thisarticle said, used to be safe
haven and and now no longer.
The weakness in the US dollaris surprising given the current

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environment.
The US economy is generallyviewed as a stable anchor for
the global economy.
The US economy is generallyviewed as a stable anchor for
the global economy.
When fear rises, investorstraditionally seek safe haven
assets to preserve capital.
This time, however, goldappears to be climbing alone.
Over the past few months,markets have increasingly

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questioned America's reliabilityas a trading partner.
Since President Donald Trump'sLiberation Day, investors have
been reluctant to buy US debt,anticipating that trade war will
lead to higher inflation andslower growth.
The global economy has sufferedtrillions in losses, as bond
yields rose from 3.98% beforeApril to current levels of
around 4.42%.
So we are now beginning to seethe real consequences of this

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erosion of faith in the UnitedStates.
As fear escalates, there arefewer perceived safe harbors.
Gold continues to shine as themost attractive safe haven asset
, free from geopolitical thirdparty risk.
Free from geopoliticalthird-party risk.
In a world where oldcertainties are unraveling, gold

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isn't just a hedge againstinflation or volatility.
It's becoming a refuge from asystem in flux.
Well, that's exactly what it isa system in flux and, of course
, a system that is beingreplaced.
That's what the great reset isall about.

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They even tell you what.
They even have a name for it.
All right, well, let me go tothe chat really quick, and this,
if you'll forgive me, I'm on mylaptop.
So much fun, I've got to go by.
I'm going to send Houston out.

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I'm going to get all new.
I'm going to get some newequipment for both Texas and
Missouri.
By the way, I'm broadcastingout of beautiful Branson,
missouri, this morning, alongwith my co-pilot and co-host,
beans the Brave, which is my 12and a half pound Maybe she's a
little, she's had some treatslately my Chihuahua mix, who

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travels the world with me.
I woke up in my cabin thismorning, my acreage, and drove
in and just having a timelooking through these headlines
with you, ladies and gentsAlways a fun day.
All right, I'm over on Rumble.
It's good to see everybody.

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David has a very active chat.
There's KWD68.
America's been involved in everywar, assassination, civil
unrest and regime change since1945.
Uh, yes, you are correct.
Yep, since 1945.

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That's a good place to start.
I was talking to my son.
He asked me have we had any uhyears, dad, like in the last 150
years?
And I said well, from 1945 toabout 1947.
Because at 1947, you got thenational security state.
That was the NSC document 68that Harry Truman signed and

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that's what gave birth to theCIA, the NSA, the Air Force, a
few other entities, but that wasreally the birth of the
national security state and thatwas on the heels of Roswell and
other factors that you know theSoviet, the emergence of the

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Soviet Union as an atomic powerand, of course, 1949, you get
the fall of mainland China tothe communists.
So no, we, you know,precipitated Korea Let me see

(35:44):
there was a comment over onrumble you thinking we can
expect another false flag attackto garner the sheepless support
for another mid-east war, tony,well, that's my fear.
That's like the sum of all fearsis uh, for me is just getting a
some sort of cataclysmic, isjust getting some sort of

(36:10):
cataclysmic event to suspenddisbelief where a lot of the
political, those in lockstepwith partisanship, because
partisanship really is whereindependent thinking, where
wisdom goes to die.
Where independent thinking,where wisdom goes to die,

(36:31):
partisanship is where thebrainwaves cease and you become
a cog in a machine for somethingelse other than principle,
other than what is right, otherthan having discernment, and it
is really terrifying to watch.
Especially you can see that inthe.
It's why I think they likewhatever MAGA is like molding it

(36:57):
into whatever they want to moldit into.
It's very dangerous because youhave people that You've got
Kash Patel and Dan Bonginositting there.
Like you know, epstein did killhimself and we can't really
release the files, but he reallydid.
And then you got people like,yes, fbi is on our side.

(37:19):
I'm like that's.
I think that's how dangerouspolitics is.
I think that's how dangerouspolitics is, especially if
you're emotionally invested,like it's a sports team.
You can get dragged into a warand if you're outside of the
system, looking at it, sayingthis is not my America, this is

(37:41):
not the country, this is not therepublic that I want to serve,
I don't understand this.
We're going to be in someuseless, uh, satanic war,
because that's what it is.
I mean, it's a ritualisticthing it's awful?
I can't.
There is no, um clear andpresent danger to the security
of the united states outside ofour borders at this point.

(38:03):
They are all inside the borders.
I mean, yeah, you have to lookat how foreign policy works, and
if you talk about the MiddleEast, or we have to hit a target
, or we have to invade or doregime change, that's absolute
nonsense.
But you see people like Pompeoand others, you see these talk

(38:26):
show hosts that are ardentZionists.
They're just coming out like,oh, now, look for the terror
event because Israel hit Iran.
Look for the terror event inthe US.
You know a little known.
I'm going to talk to, uh, BillyRay Valentine about this in the

(38:47):
third hour, but I remembersomething.
This is funny about having amemory Um January 6th 2020,
there was a report that, um,there would be a, a bombing and
or sort of terror attack byIranian terror cells, sleeper

(39:13):
cells, how they know?
This is right.
They just dropped this.
This was an intel.
You can go look it up.
This was dropped a couple ofdays before, but it was
scheduled for the 6th and, ofcourse, it never happened.
But that's what they they weredropping this.
Iranian terror cells were goingto hit the us january 6, 2020

(39:35):
in response to the killing ofgeneral salamani a year earlier.
And I covered that um on thedavid night show in uh in Austin
filling in for David.
That was a big day because thatwas an act of war.
You know, we've taken out thisprominent Iranian official and

(39:57):
Trump had done that unilaterally, you know with, I think, drone
I think they used a drone orsomething like that.
It was a targeted attack andthe blowback from that that's
even a great deal of theseterror networks.
If we've learned by things likeAl-Qaeda which means the

(40:18):
database, right, it doesn't meanthe base, it means the database
, or ISIS or people like JohnMcCain would stand there and
have pictures with people inISIS what we learned is that
they are controlled.
They have some control byintelligence.
They can be steered for regimechange or boogeymen and other
things, but blowback's a realthing.

(40:39):
I mean you look at the concept.
You can get the populationsmotivated to at least aid and
abet and assist those who wouldcarry out and be part of that
terror network because they hatethe West.
You know, because we've ruinedany semblance of goodwill.

(41:00):
You know, around the world, andthat's really sad because the
American people aren't that wayAround the world, and that's
really sad because the Americanpeople aren't that way.
But it's really sad to watchthe public opinion too.
Like, if you look at publicopinion.
That's why it's such a goodquestion on a false flag.
I think they did polls, like 80%of Americans or so that get

(41:21):
polled online.
They don't want anything to dowith a Middle Eastern war, so
why do we keep getting involvedin them?
It's like the.
I mean I know why, but it'sthis small majority of lawmakers
.
Well, not necessarily lobbyists, let's put it that way.
Lawmakers are pretty muchlockstep for war, I mean,

(41:44):
crossed both aisles.
But you have this like justsmall, you know, group of
interests, special interests,that push you into war, and then
the people are left completelyout.
Of course, congress abdicatedits power a long time ago.
Yeah, shield your Eyes, saysradical Islam is really a myth

(42:07):
as far as threats to nationalsecurity, goes.
Yes, it is.
It is, and only so much as wemake it a threat.
Yeah, I see.
I see you in the comments.

(42:28):
I know what you want me to do.
Uh, you guys are funny.
All right, um, let me get onthis last article in lou
rockwellcom.
I saw one of the comments.
I may not have, um, have hadthis live everywhere.
Maybe I can.
I saw where I was supposed tolog into, but maybe tomorrow I
might have this up up on DLiveand Kick.

(42:51):
I just saw that comment.
So, let me, I'll talk to Travisand make sure I'm there
tomorrow.
So that's on me, all right, letme.
I found this one interesting.
It's a good piece over on LouRockwellwell and we're about to
be joined by the legendarydonald jeffries.
Uh, author of hidden historyand my friend always, uh, always

(43:15):
fun to talk to.
You know what's funny?
I never like before I have don.
I never know what I'm going totalk to him about.
He just shows up and we justroll.
He's that good.
Let's put this and you'll seewhere I tied into the first 20
minutes of the show.
This is LewRockwellcom, aparade for Trump, and it's Eric

(43:40):
S Margolis.
This came out today.
It says the last Americanmilitary parade that I saw was
the inauguration of PresidentDwight Eisenhower in 1953.
It's not counting my days inthe US Army.
It was a hell of a show.
What impressed me most was thegiant M65-203MM atomic cannon

(44:05):
that was wheeled up Washington'sPennsylvania Avenue.
I was so deeply impressed byGeneral Eisenhower.
There was no huff or puff withhim, no wildly inflated claims,
no bluster, no efforts to laythe groundwork for a
military-run regime.
None of what the Soviets usedto call bonapartism regime.

(44:27):
None of what the Soviets usedto call Bonapartism just a real
soldier who served America proudand became the finest president
of modern times.
I still like Ike, but I alsodetest militarism and fake
patriotic warmongering.
Every spring I walk theblood-soaked battlefields of
World War I in France and sickat heart by the botry and
stupidity of the first greatmodern war.

(44:48):
Having been a GI and covered 14wars and conflicts as a news
correspondent, I hate all formsof militarism, flag-waving and
patriotic oratory.
Just for a second.
This reminds me of Gore Vidal,who was a World War II veteran,
and the way he said it was likeno one ever said a patriotic

(45:12):
thing.
You know, it's just an awfulduty you have to carry out.
I mean, it's only weirdos, likereally, you know, kind of like
those operators.
That operator speak like theguy that was in the bushes at
the golf course with an NGO.
Yeah, they love that kind ofstuff, except one.
This is what he goes.
This is funny, except one thathe says is worth the patriotic

(45:39):
flag-waving oratory FrancisBastille Day on 14 July.
Much as I am an ardentanti-militarist, few things
thrill or move me as much asseeing France's mass soldiers
and firefighters marching downlovely Champs-Élysées and the
thunder of hooves of the armedcavalry of the Republican Guard.

(46:00):
What a magnificent spectacle.
It reminds me of what anothergreat president, thomas
jefferson, said every man hastwo homelands, his own and
france.
Who has a beating heart thatcannot be moved by the mighty
strains of the le marseille,france's national anthem, which

(46:20):
was originally called the warsong of the army of the Rhine?
Yeah, it's the 1812 Overturehas that in it too.
Yeah, the 1812 Overture is notabout the war of 1812.
It's about the Russiansexpelling Napoleon from Moscow.

(46:47):
Bastille marked the beginningof democracy and human rights
for the world.
The French Revolution alsobrought the terror and the
Napoleonic Wars, but it's stillan epical moment in mankind's
history.
Without great amounts offinancial and military aid from
France, the United States mightnot have gained its independence
Today.

(47:08):
It might still be ruled by thesame bunch of nincompoops in
London who have brought GreatBritain so low.
Well, in many ways it isbecause you have the banking
institutions and CFR.
But ironically, france's grossoverspending on supporting the
American Revolution led directlyto its own revolution in 1789

(47:29):
that overturned its monarchy.
All of which is true.
This week we'll see a newlyminted military extravaganza in
Washington whose real purpose isto glorify a president who
avoided military service inVietnam due to a questionable
foot problem.
As a veteran, this faketriumphal parade leaves me

(47:50):
feeling unwell.
Militarized politics just whatrecent past presidents have
avoided.
I had been accepted to a PhD atBritain's Cambridge University
that would have kept me out ofmilitary service, but in an
admittedly quixotic act, Ienlisted in the regular army to

(48:13):
serve in the infantry in Vietnam.
Fate kept me in the US teachingsenior officer strategy and
tactics, but I had at least donemy duty as a citizen.
In retrospect, vietnam was alousy, unjust imperial war, but
I had served my country, whichhad given new life to both my

(48:33):
parents.
I limped through Army basic andadvanced infantry training with
a broken bone in my left foot,unlike our current
commander-in-chief.
I wish the government wouldspend the estimated $45 million
earmarked for this ego fest onwounded veterans.

(48:53):
You know you find this a lot.
I like this article and youfind this a lot in people that
actually do military.
It's like you have thispush-pull between just being
absolutely disgusted withmilitarism and being disgusted
with the pomp of it or thisblanketed glory of whatever

(49:15):
battlefield.
You know, speaking to a friendof mine the other day, I was
talking about a book that Iloved, written by a World War II
veteran.
It's a well-known historiannamed William Manchester and
it's called Goodbye Darkness.

(49:35):
So he's reaching he's about myage or a little bit older at the
time so he's, you know, gettingup there and he decides he's
going to go back to thebattlefields that he fought in
the Pacific as a Marine in WorldWar II and he's flying over
there, he's retracing his stepsand it's just haunting, you know
, because he's going throughreliving a lot of the stuff that
he went through as a young manand I love that book because it

(49:59):
really is not.
You know painting some pictureabout how glorious things were
or whatever.
You know painting some pictureabout how glorious things were
or whatever, but you still havethe pull of being proud of
certain things and seeingcertain things, or you know the
value of the fighting spirit.
So it really is a push-pull.

(50:19):
And I like the subtle jabs,because I do not like militarism
either, especially in the faceof we literally have like
multiple psyops going on.
Who's funding that?
Side note, I was with Melissaon Saturday and we had an event

(50:41):
at our gym here just outside ofBranson and we had an event at
our gym here just outside ofBranson and she was tweeting
something and you can go look ather.
She's Moark Wild.
Woman on Twitter and she askedGrok, like who funded no Kings?
And it doesn't answer.
It never answered, like threedifferent tweets who funded it?

(51:03):
Which is always what you shouldalways ask first who funded it?
Where does the funding comefrom?
Right, that's?
Uh, that's always the case,right, is we?
We just get the the effect, but, uh, not the cause.
All right, all right, let's goover.

(51:24):
I had this pulled out.
This will make you laugh.
Just a little bit of levitythis morning, so hopefully it's
still up there.
Oh, no, let me see if I canfind it.
I just I think the twitterreset.
Oh, that's unfortunate.
Let me see if I can pull upCharlie's, because we're going

(51:47):
to have the great charlierobinson on tomorrow.
Host of macroaggressions and, uh, author of the octopus of
global control and the controldemolition of the american
empire.
I may have to just paraphraseit.
I may have to paraphrase it.

(52:10):
Yeah, I lost it.
I lost the tweet.
Anyway, there was a tweet up byStephen King talking about
different myths.
It's too good.
I've got to find it.
Let's see if I can just type itin find, stephen King.

(52:30):
It was just so good, if youwant a good laugh.
Courtesy of Charlie.
By the way.
It's so funny when you findsomething you like and then it's
hard to get it back.
Yeah, okay, this is whatStephen King said.

(52:50):
I hate to be the bearer of badnews, but there is no Santa
Claus, no tooth fairy, also nodeep state and vaccines aren't
harmful.
These are stories for smallchildren and those too credulous
to disbelieve them.
And my friend Charlie Robinsonreplied you sound vaccinated.

(53:15):
Oh, charlie, I look forward tohaving him on.
That will be fun.
We'll talk about that tweet andmore tomorrow.
Let's go over some.
I like to go to gold telegraphand see what gold telegraphs got

(53:38):
going on.
One of those fascinatingstories of our time right now is
that if you look at the and weall talk about the Federal
Reserve and the creature fromJekyll Island it got up to like
a 900 and some odd billiondollar loss last year.
And I I guess I just find thatfascinating because the people

(54:17):
that make the money lost moneyjust so much fun.
I, you know that's the kind ofand of course they don't put it
that way on financial.
It's got to be very complicated.
I put this calculator,algorithms and all.
It's not that complicated.
You lost money and you make themoney.
You literally make it out ofnothing and you lost money.

(54:39):
I just crazy.
And gold approaching 35.50 inUS dollar terms.
Let me put this up.
Let's look at some goldtelegraph headlines always fun
great account over there.
Let's see, while we're waitingfor Don, just a few more minutes

(55:01):
we'll have the great DonaldJeffries over here.
Yeah, this is one of the greatstories and I'm seeing this.

(55:23):
I've actually looked into this.
I have posted this before, butit's worth highlighting again.
This is a gold, the greatstories.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
And I'm seeing this.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I've actually looked into this.
I have posted this before, butit's worth highlighting again.
This is a gold ATM in China.
It melts the gold and transfersthe amount corresponding to its
weight to your bank account.
Gold Telegraph says the futureis calling these kind of things.
I think are when you start tosee gold.
I mean it is already gettingthere, and I have two gold and

(55:49):
silver locations and I promiseyou, like the urban gold mining
is starting to go on.
People are going to garagesales, people are going to
thrift stores, people arefinding and that's true of
silver too, I mean with silverpast, you know, $36 an ounce
there's going to be urban silvermining as well, and you can get
in on that.
If you make some extra money.

(56:10):
That's making extra money byjust being.
You can sell it to me.
If you need help, you want tolearn how to buy a little bit of
gold, put an ad out that youbuy gold.
You can do that.
It's a great way to make alittle bit extra money.
Or go find it yourself.
Just go hunting and pecking.
It's fun.

(56:30):
Sometimes I think about theterm gold bug and how people
mocked anyone serious about gold.
It's crazy.
Now it's the world's secondlargest reserve asset and a key
piece on the geopoliticalchessboard, it says.
Today, with everythingunfolding, it's almost reckless

(56:51):
not to pay attention.
Well, that's true, and what'sweird is that the traditional
legacy finance and everythingyou're just going to get.
There's so much that's going toget left behind and that's why I
think I've been watching thisreally closely.
And on the other end of thespectrum, another part of my
business, which is Bitcoin youhave BlackRock and Larry Fink

(57:13):
and all these people, these bigplayers, these hedge fund people
slowly and not necessarilyslowly on BlackRock's part, but
some of the other wealth fundsare looking at Bitcoin and you
see all these treasury companiespopping up.
We're hitting a gold's part ofthis, silver's part of this, but

(57:33):
we're hitting an era wherethere's moving away from the
fiat experiment.
You have to understand that'san experiment.
In 1971, nixon goes off, thegold standard takes us off, the
gold standard closes the goldwindow, so we have a
free-floating fiat currency.
That's an experiment.
The average lifespan is about 26years in history.
They all go to zero.

(57:54):
We can't go to zero.
I mean the lights go out, solike they have to do something,
it has to be, but they can'tcontinue just to print, because
that's just debasement intooblivion.
I think there's going to be somesort of new Bretton Woods
agreement, maybe like theMar-a-Lago Accords, somebody

(58:14):
will do something.
If we still lead, it might bethe BRICS nations that do it.
We might just be so distractedby cultural Marxism and mental
illness that we can't getanything done anymore, which
would be terrible.
But the world's going to resetthe monetary system and it'll
have maybe a basket ofcommodities, might be, might be

(58:37):
something based on Bitcoin,could be it has.
It has to change, though, andthe inverse is really the only
option, because just expandingthe bubble, and maybe that's
where stable coins come in andit's where the danger of a
backdoor central bank digitalcurrency as well, but that's
what we cover over on the Art ofBurn radio transmission.

(59:00):
So go subscribe to my show ifyou can.
Transmission.
So go subscribe to my show ifyou can.
We're going to be coming up witha new show very soon, uh, on
geopolitics, uh, precious metals, bitcoin.
Um, it's gonna be a weeklything.
I'll let you know once a week.
We're gonna we're gonnaannounce that pretty soon.
Um, working on it.
All right, let me see if we'vegot dawn yet.
I'm not quite.

(59:23):
Mr je Jeffries likes to jump inright at the last minute.
He's a lot of fun.
I was going to go back to thecheck on the comments.
Free thinking, florida, moms onmy, on my exes.

(59:47):
There are solutions to thisnonsense going on.
David has interviewed Dr Shivaand the application of system
science is a way out of thisslavery to a broken system.
Please revisit this with him.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Yeah.
When's the last time he's beenon the show you guys can get him
back on.
Nibiro 2029 said if you owngold today, the government will
own it tomorrow.
Let's hope not.

(01:00:21):
That's why.
That's why I don't really mything.
We already have a gold standardourselves.
It's almost like when thegovernment itself gets involved
with gold and silver, when theyget involved with the monetary
system, when they get involvedwith owning the currency, I get

(01:00:41):
skeptical because historydoesn't show where they've run
it that well.
Actually, there's no example.
And if you look at somethinglike what happened in 1933, and
this is where you have somewisdom here in your statement is
that it became illegal for youto own gold in the United States
.
It wasn't until 1974.

(01:01:02):
Gerald Ford, I think, coming upon Christmas Eve, made it in
1974, made it legal, free to owngold.
So all that whole time we wereon a gold standard.
You know, in the 1933 andonward it was illegal for you to
own gold.
I need to get my chat ashealthy as David's chat.

(01:01:29):
Let me go back and check andsee if Don's hearing it there he
is, there's.
Mr Jeffries, donald Jeffries howyou doing, tony good to see you
in a while.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah, it's been a while.
I'm getting, I'm getting, I'mgetting echo are you for me?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
for me, yeah yeah okay, um, do you want to try
coming back?
It might be just your audio.
You want to try to try to reset?
It and come back in should beokay.
Sometimes we have to do this.
Sometimes we have to reset theaudio.
Folks, that's what you do whenyou're your own producer.

(01:02:12):
I need to have a Travis or aWhistler.
How about now, Don?

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Okay.
Now I still hear it Really,yeah, yeah.
Hmm, it's just an echo when youspeak yes, yes but not me no,
no not you you want me to try,let me try clicking on the link
again yeah, maybe try that.

(01:02:38):
Um, yeah, I'm not, I'm not sosure why you would, why you
would?

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
have an echo sir, okay, okay.
I'm not so sure why you wouldhave an echo sir, okay, okay.
All right, folks stand by,we'll see if we can get Don back
in here.
If not, we'll see if we canpower through it with his echo.
That's really when you try todo shows and you can't like it's

(01:03:02):
hard to hear yourself too.
I've done that and it's it's apretty maddening.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
So I don't want to drive.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Don insane Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Is this work Still here.
Well, I guess I'm doing it, I'mjust distracting We'll have you
know, if you wanted to, um, youcould go to wonder if you could
do the audio just off yourlaptop by itself.
You wouldn't have theheadphones, but I mean, you just

(01:03:39):
have a different kind of audioor you could do it on your phone
, don, yeah, I could try If youwanted to try that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Yeah.
Let me just try this.
Change the setting here again Idon't think it is, but listen
yeah, I think, uh, you're andyour.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Your usb mic is, I believe is, plugged in yeah, I
can't hear you there yet don't.
This is like me every week nowwith uh right now.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Right now, no, I still.
I still have it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
It's bizarre I get, I get yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
I can't, you can, you can let me just try, let me
just try my see, if people see,if people can hear me Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Okay, okay Can people okay, okay because can people,
can people hear that?
Yeah, I can hear you don'tyou're still gonna get an echo
with that do you really?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
yeah, yeah, geez okay , yeah, okay, yeah, you can text
me um see if you can um try itone more time with your usb mic,
since I stopped the screen.
See if that helped.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Just making sure, and if not, we'll, I'll figure it
out, don Okay Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Okay.
Do you want me to text it toyou?
Don?

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Okay, let me see what I can do.
Okay, sorry about that.
That's all right, here's whatI'll do.
Let's see If you have an echowhen I remove my microphone.
See if you still have an echo.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Hello, how are you?
No, I don't have an echo now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
All right, you cover the show really quick and talk
about your new article that's upon Lou Rockwell.
I was going to talk about yournew article that's up right now,
and then I'll send you a linkand you can come back in through
your phone ok, ok, well, goodto see everybody out there and
I'm seeing there's people in thechat here.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Hopefully you guys should be able to hear me okay
now.
I don't know what's going onhere, but I seem to get these
problems a lot.
I haven't.
I don't know, maybe it's partof a shadow ban or whatever.
Yeah, I hope those of you whoare not subscribed to me on
Substack will do so.
It's Donald Jeffries atSubstackcom.
It's called iProtest, just likemy weekly live streaming

(01:06:09):
podcast on these same fineplatforms from 5 to 7 pm Eastern
.
You can go there.
My latest one is about themostly peaceful protesters,
which I guess turned out to bepretty much a big nothing and
kind of juxtaposed against themilitary parade, which I think
kind of unfairly.
It was kind of a strangecoincidence that it coincided
with Trump's birthday, but itwas actually planned before that

(01:06:30):
.
It was a oh, somebody's sayingthey still hear an echo.
Okay, hopefully not now.
Let me know in the chat if youcan hear an echo now.
Yeah, it should be gone now,because I can't hear it anyway.
But you know, so that wasreally a military thing that was
planned.
It's still pretty stupid, Ithink, and it's not a good look,
I'm not sure why, why you wouldwant to celebrate the military

(01:06:55):
at this point, maybe when youknow we're getting ready to go
into World War Three.
Oh good, here it's gone.
Thank you for your thinking.
And then you have the kind oftheatrics that Trump is diving
in, where Trump is kind ofseemingly bragging and
complaining, both bragging abouthow great his crowd was for the
big army parade as opposed tothe big nothing burger of the no

(01:07:17):
kings rallies, and of coursethe other side is saying that
Trump's rally was a big nothingburger and that he's mad.
And you know he's upset becausethe no Kings rally had more
people.
Who knows, I don't know.
I think they're both prettystupid, to be honest with you.
And again it kind ofillustrates the problem we have
with these two poisonous leftand right paradigm where we're

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looking at, on the one side youhave the what's supposed to be
the answer to the craziness ofthe woke left and that that
would be trump.
And I said in my article I Imean it's as if I was right
about the trumpetstein projectand there's a director off stage
that is telling trump okay, nowwhat we want you to do, exactly
what people think hitler woulddo, because that's what it was

(01:08:02):
basically.
I mean, he's sitting theresaluting the tanks and
everything you know it's.
It's just ridiculous.
It was not a good look, but um,so again, that's uh, and I I
will definitely be addressing,uh, I'll be writing in the next
couple days.
I'll definitely be talkingabout the iran, iraq, the iran
um israel conflagration, whichyou know.

(01:08:25):
It's very interesting that,once again, you know, there's no
question, unequivocally, israelstarted this, they struck first
, and yet they're probably stillusing the same defense that you
know.
Israel has a right to defendthemselves, defend themselves
from what I mean you did, did,and not only that, but I think

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they ticked off.
Even people certainly picked.
They ticked off a lot of peoplein the maga movement.
Marjorie taylor green is lostnow.
She had a beautiful tweet outthere where she was saying this
is really stupid to besupporting iran and everything,
but uh, I mean just to besupporting israel at this point.
But uh, you, they did this inthe middle of what were supposed
to be peace talks they weresupposed to be, you know,

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negotiating peace and Israellaunches a Pearl Harbor type
attack.
And then they wonder and I again, how much of this is real?
I don't know.
There are people out there whobelieve this is all staged.
I had Susan Olson on my showyesterday.
Those of you who don't know shewas Cindy Brady on the Brady
Bunch.
She's a good friend of mine andvery awake and she's always a
great guest.
But she was one of those peoplewho kind of believes maybe the

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stuff in California was stagedand she was talking about.
You know, a lot of people thinkthat these videos are from a
previous date, that they're notlive.
So who knows?
And she lives in California,she's not necessarily near there
, she's not in Los Angeles, butshe said, you know, I didn't see
any signs of it.
So who knows how much of thisis scripted and theatrical.

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But all we know is that whenthe dust settles, as always, I
don't make any predictions.
I'm not going to be like AlexJones and you know, come on,
never walk closer to World WarIII than we've ever been, which
he does pretty much every showfor the last, you know, five
years or so.
But I'm not going to do thatbecause I don't know.
They've been holding back onthis, thank goodness, for a long
time and I hope they continueto just use the fear porn of

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this.
But I get the sense that, youknow, I could be wrong because
they could come up with a, thesense that I could be wrong
because they could come up witha Pearl Harbor type false flag
that will convince the masses.
Remember, back before PearlHarbor, american public opinion
was dead set against us enteringthe European war.
World War II, and you had lotsof the left was involved in the

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America first movement, whichwas I had loved when Trump used
to say America first.
Now he hasn't said Americafirst for a long, long time.
Make america great again.
That's not the same thing.
Uh, america first wasdefinitely a shout out to that
movement, which was a greatmovement, and it consisted
mostly of left-wing people,classical liberals of the day,

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who most of them had theircareers ruined by franklin
roosevelt in Roosevelt, in theearliest example of cancel
culture that we can find.
So you know, here we are.
Are we on the brink of WorldWar III?
I don't know, but I do thinkthat it looks on the surface
like Israel may not be quite thematch for Iran by themselves.

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You know, it's like this is aboxing match and they stepped in
the ring.
It's like with Buster Douglasagainst Mike Tyson, you know
Buster Douglas is knocking itdown, you know, and it's like I
really think that, because itlooks like again, if and
whatever, to the ever degreethis is real, uh, then, uh, it
looks like they're inflictingsome damage on israel and giving

(01:11:44):
at least as good as they'regetting, and, uh, so clearly
israel is calling for our bigbrother, us, you know, I don't
mean big brother, but the bigbrother that always defends them
against the Arabs, who justhave the impoliteness, you know,
the chutzpah, to basicallyobject to them being in their

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midst there and taking over thisland and being armed to the
teeth.
I mean, we've created the thirdmost powerful military in the
world in Israel, israel's aboutthe size of Rhode Island.
So it's without us.
They are nothing, and I'm notsaying I want that to happen,
but they would have been overrunby all those angry Arabs a long
time ago Without us.

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The only thing that has keptthem afloat is our military
technology, our militaryassistance when we need to be,
and that right now, apparently,they need more.
They need, and you know, will,trump.
Do you have any confidenceTrump is going to stand up to
them?
Who knows, maybe if I was Iran,I still hear it, I still hear

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it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
You want to go ahead and try off.
I texted you the link on yourcell phone.
You want to come back in DonGotcha?

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Gotcha, gotcha Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I'd hate to cut you off.
You're doing so good, but Iwanted to no, no, no problem.
Okay.
Right, right, thank you, thankyou All right, we'll wait for
Don to come back.
I was thinking of just why hewas speaking about the history
of Israel and the wars that it'sbeen in, and it really is kind

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of a counterintuitive thing.
But you think of terrorism andyou think of the Middle East and
the PLO, but that's not reallywhat threatens Israel?
What threatens Israel is nationstates.
You go back to 1967 and theSix-Day War and that's where you
get.
That was at the same time atthe USS Liberty, you know,

(01:13:43):
trying to bring that in througha you know, false flag operation
, trying to widen that.
Because that was, israel was onthe brink of losing its nation
estate.
I mean it's losing its nationestate, I mean it's losing its
sovereignty because the Arabstates around it were pushing
for its destruction.
Same thing in 1973 with the YomKippur War and that just

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happened to find a veryinebriated Richard Nixon holed
up in the Lincoln sitting roomgetting very angry that he had
to deal with that.
At the same time, as you know,his presidency was taken apart
by Watergate and the and thedeep state and he decided to.
He just basically drinkingJohnny Walker scotch, told the,

(01:14:32):
told Kissinger and others.
You know that they better letthe Russians know, let the
Soviets know and of course theircounterparts.
And you know that they betterlet the Russians know, let the
Soviets know and of course theircounterparts and you know, like
Egypt, that if, uh, israel, youknow, is invaded, that uh,
he'll drop the big one and um,that's pretty much what saved
Israel.
And then there was some, uh,flights and other things,

(01:14:52):
flights and other things, but he, you know, he used some
military aid and some rushthings in there, but it was
really the threat of USintervention.
So Don is absolutely correctand that's a long lineage of
Israeli foreign policy and theUS being unfortunately joined at
the hip.
Let me add Don, to see how dowe sound now, don.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
Okay, nice, nice, I still have an echo are you on
another device?

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
let's see if.
Are you still logged into yourother computer?

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
no, I know I left the computer that's bizarre.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Well, you know what I here's.
Here's what I want to do.
Don once you come back in onthe computer like you're
comfortable and, uh, let's talkabout, I'll just get.
I'll just uh, hop off thestream and let you finish
because you were making so muchsense.
I'll just join the comments.
You want to do that.
We'll put Professor Jeffriesback in for the rest of the hour
.
You can just go.
I'll jump in the chat.
I'd hate to.

(01:15:46):
I know it's hard for me to evendo shows if there's an echo
like that, so I understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Why don't we just do that?
Keep talking about it.
Go back to your article.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Thank you sir.
All right, we'll do that.
Ladies and gents, we're goingto wait for Don Jeffries to pop
back in.
These are the fun times of thetechnical difficulties,
everything updated as a matterof fact.
Not that this is boring, butthe last three times I've tried
to get into the David Knightshow Not that this is boring,
but like the last three timesI've tried to get into the David
Knight show like thisroadcaster or whatever wouldn't

(01:16:19):
comport with Zoom.
It'll work on Zoom calls, butnot this show.
And then I couldn't hear them,and then last week they couldn't
hear me so I had to do it on myphone.
So fun times.
We're working on it, anyway.
But Don's absolutely right.
And you know, look at the.
The history of it and then Iwas thinking of was at night

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time is 1983, I could be wrongabout that was close to that.
It was Osiris, which you know.
The Iraqis were working withthe French on a nuclear reactor
and the Israelis just blew it up, and the reason is because they
already you know they don'twant nuclear proliferation, even
though they were proliferatingnuclear weapons.

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So you know, through us by theway, it's another and Don can
speak to this about the IsraeliPrime Minister.
Begin, you know, was in the1960s, with nuclear
proliferation and Kennedy.
But the US and the Israelishave a long history,
unfortunately with intertwinednot mutual interest, by the way,

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not at all mutual interest, butvery much intertwined foreign
policy.
And that is the rub Let me puton Don and Don, I'm just going
to let you continue.
I was going to say.
I talked a little bit about the1980s military strike by Israel
on Osirik, which was the Iraqinuclear facility that they were

(01:17:49):
working with the French to putin, and the Israelis just blew
it up to put in, the israelisjust blew it up.
I talked about the uss liberty,you know, back in 67 with the
own.
It's kind of a false flag topull the us in.
Or you know, lyndon johnsoncover that up, but uh, also the
nuclear proliferation.
I just threw that out there.
So all this you know with uh,with bagan in the 1960s and
kennedy.
So anyway, I'll let you, I'lllet you go and and finish, and I

(01:18:13):
will, uh, I'll be in the chatwith you yeah keep me on target.
I appreciate it thanks, verymuch.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
Thanks to Tony for understanding and I'm sorry I
can't believe he thinks my voiceis coming out of Tony's.
I don't know what it is, butit's really bizarre that it was
working on the same thing.
I was having that effect on thephone as well.
Don't know, I don't know whatit is, but it's that's really
bizarre that it uh, it wasworking on, uh, you know the
same thing.
I was having that effect on thephone as well, but anyway, you
know, I think it's.
You know.
What I find amazing at thispoint is, for the first time in

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my life, you really have moreand more talk about israel is
getting more criticism inamerica than they ever have.
The entire left, uh is, andthat's why I haven't.
I haven't heard.
Maybe, you know, maybe you guyshave heard more, because I
don't watch mainstream news, butI'm getting the impression that
, um, the left doesn't seem tocare quite as much about iran as
they do about gaza, and theyshould care about gaza.

(01:19:07):
But I would like to see and I,you know, I dared gavin newsom
on, uh, not that he's going topay attention to me, but he, he
was, he was, you know he's.
You see him on Twitter.
He's he's adopting this toughguy mode.
Now you know he's out there andhe's you know he's going to
kick Trump's butt.
Basically is what he's sayingand uh, he's acting like this
tough guy.
And so I said hey, you know,gavin, uh, um, show us where

(01:19:29):
you're really courageous.
Condemn Israel's first strike onIran.
Condemn that, and then condemnthe guy.
You know that you can't standTrump.
Condemn the fact that he'ssupporting it.
I've heard that he's done that.
I don't think he will.
But if the left does do that,if the left now starts
condemning because they seem tohave been restricting their

(01:19:50):
criticisms of Israel to thetreatment of the Palestinians,
which is certainly true theyshould, you know, be criticized
for that.
And who knows how many peoplethey've killed in Gaza, and you
can see the wreckage in Gaza.
It's obvious, it's somethinghorrific has happened there.
So they should be criticizingthat.
But I'd like to see themcriticize overall ties with

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Israel, and not just becauseit's an apartheid state or
whatever you know stuff thatthey want to frame it in woke
terms, but because it's anartificial state that was
created.
And I guess that's why I go backto the beginning.
I'm with the Arabs, you know.
That said in the beginning, Ithink we need to look at this
from the very beginning.
And that doesn't mean, you know, that people in Israel, every

(01:20:35):
human being, has a right toexist.
Of course they have a right toexist, but that doesn't mean
they have a right to exist there.
You know, we all have a rightto exist.
But if you decide to, you knowI'm going to take over my
neighbor's backyard because, uh,you know, my religious
philosophy says that.
You know, this was my landoriginally and I want it.
You're not going to get veryfar.

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Nobody's going to sympathizewith you, at least of all the
neighbor that owns that yard.
So you just can't do what theydid and expect no reprieve.
And it's amazing that therehasn't been a World War
precipitated out of that beforethis.
To be honest with you, becausethis is, you know, that seems to
be one of the culminations ofWorld War II.

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What happened afterwards?
Well, zionism was born, notonly the Cold War and the Iron
Curtain over Europe, with, youknow, suddenly our allies, uncle
Joe Stalin, and then suddenlythey became the Hobbit goblins
and we had to fight themindirectly.
Of course, we never know.
That's it's an answer to atrivia question for those of you
out there, the only, um, theonly world leader that ever

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confronted the soviet unionsdirectly, directly on the
battlefields, uh, was adolfhitler.
For what it is.
Just as we never did, we never,we never constructed, we never
confronted the soviet union, wecould indirectly.
You know, we had proxy wars ink, in Korea and Vietnam
certainly, but we didn't, wenever did anything to them, just
as we weren't about to doanything to China.

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And I think we're seeing alittle bit of that American
attitude.
Well, you know I don't know ifwe're you know, we've been
picking on these third worldcountries that can't fight back,
and Israel has a little bit ofthat attitude too.
And they may be looking at Iran.
That looks like Iran can fightback Again, to whatever degree
this is legitimate.
This could all be theater, wedon't know, but I do.

(01:22:21):
Maybe I'm wishful thinking, butI think that because of the
world we have now America 2.0,you've got the generation of
youngsters in America that wouldhave to serve I mean Bobby
Kennedy very memorably.
I assume he's correct.
He studies this stuff, you know, and I think he's accurate.

(01:22:41):
So, something like 70% or maybeover 70% of draft age, you know,
if they reinstituted the draftbecause they'd have to.
If they had a world war service, ageicans would not be
physically or emotionally ormentally.
They would have some kind ofissue that would cause them to
be uh, for effort, whatever.

(01:23:03):
They wouldn't be able to servein the military.
So I don't know that you couldform an army.
I mean, I don't know, I hopethey're not going to go.
For, you know, truly old guyslike me or something, I'm sure I
threatened to go to canada,back in vietnam.
Luckily I barely missed thatend.
So, uh, you know, I'd old guyslike me or something.
I threatened to go to Canada,back in Vietnam.
Luckily I barely missed that.
So you know, I'd have to go toCanada then, I guess.
But I don't get the sense thatanybody and I think again, it's

(01:23:25):
because the left, especially thebase of just the common voter,
is fed up with Israel, and it'smostly, but I don't think that
you're going to get the leftsupport on this at all because
Israel has become one of theirbogeymen, clearly.
So I don't think they're goingto, you know, they're going to

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send their kids or themselvesare going to go and fight for
Israel.
It's just, it's so obvious, andespecially when the way this
started, where, you know, israelfired the first shot and I
heard Alex Jones and others youknow apologize, while claiming
they're not apologizing but theyare apologizing for Israel
saying well, you know, iranattacked Israel a while back.
Okay, and I don't know thenuances of that, because I but

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I'm sure Israel attacked themfirst.
That would be my guess.
Nuances of that, because I butI'm sure Israel attacked them
first.
That would be my guess.
And so this is.
This is the problem that whenyou you have, it's basically a
rogue state out there and it's Idon't know that we've ever had
a nation like that in thehistory of the world that it's a
parasitic state where it feedsoff the lifeblood of another

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state.
I don't know what kind ofindustry Israel actually has,
but they depend so much on ourlifeline that I think if we just
finally cut them off, they'd belike a trust fund kid this
trust fund kid, trust fund wascut off and okay, now you got to
go figure out how to deal withthe world.

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I don't think they could do itand I think they would be
overrun.
And I'm not saying I want thatto happen, I don't want anybody
to be hurt, but clearly itdoesn't look like there's any
way to cause.
You know Jimmy Carter tried inthe 70s.
You know, give him credit forthat.
He was the closest thing toeven-handed in the Middle East
we've had since JFK.

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As Tony mentioned, jfk wasinvolved in a very heated war of
words with David Ben-Gurion,the original president of Israel
at the time of hisassassination.
Just coincidentally enough,people can look at that the way
they want.
I don't think Israel was themain trigger man behind the JFK
assassination.
Just coincidentally enough, andpeople can look at that the way

(01:25:38):
they want.
I don't think Israel was themain trigger man behind the JFK
assassination, but it looks likethere was some kind of
involvement because the recentJFK font releases.
What we saw is that all of theformerly redacted items
virtually all of them had to dowith Israel and give Tulsi
Gabbard credit for that.
There's something that she gotrid of the redactions and I
don't know.
There's people who go deep downthe rabbit hole and say they

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want people to know this forsome reason.
This is something.
Maybe they want the anti-Jewishsentiment.
I don't know, because you'regetting that If you watch
YouTube, especially the blackYouTubers.
Now Jason Whitlock and it'samazing, jason Whitlock is part
of the Blaze Network.
That's Glenn Beck, and GlennBeck has been on the air saying
how committed he is to Israel.

(01:26:23):
It's his favorite country andagain, he's an American, he's
not Jewish.
So you wouldn't expect to havea Glenn Beck.
That's almost like being on theDaily Wire with Ben Shapiro.
But Jason Whitlock sayswhatever he wants.
He interviewed Michael E Jones,who very much has the views of
David Duke.
He interviewed him and Whitlockopenly talks and smiles and

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chuckles and talks about thetribe.
I mean, I sit there and I justI can't believe this guy's doing
this, but I don't know if it'sbecause he's black, he's Latino.
And if you look at kind of amore humorous note, if you look
at the Hodge twins who are,again, yeah, they're you know
they're not intellectuals butthey have.
You know, they have good kind ofcommon sense.

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They're like a lot of people Iworked with back in the days who
know a lot more than IvyLeaguers in terms of what's
going on street-level smarts andthey've had David Duke on there
but they talk openly aboutJewish power and mock Israel and
everything.
Again, they've got millions ofsubscribers.

(01:27:28):
Mark Dice I was watching avideo for him yesterday.
I don't think Alex Jones isgoing to invite him back on
anytime soon.
He is very, very openlyanti-Israel and skeptical of the
power the Zionists hold overAmerican society.
It's great to see this.
Is wonderful to see at least alarge portion, even Tucker

(01:27:52):
Carlson, I think Tucker Carlsonsaid what did he say?
Of course it wasn't anythingthat extreme, but he, he kind of
.
He said something like you know, this is we.
We should not be involved atall.
You know what trump should?
I can't remember exactly.
Maybe people probably read it,but, um, you know, the idea that
somebody that mainstream isdoing it.

(01:28:13):
Uh, I, I think we've we'vereached a point where I don't
think they're going to be ableto sell this.
Maybe they don't care and theydon't claim if they can sell it
or not, and they'll just comeout and be as tyrannical as they
want to be.
I hope that all these otherskirmishes between Israel and,
whether it's Lebanon or Syria or, you know, iran, iraq, all of

(01:28:39):
the litany of enemies that webecome involved with, because it
just happened to be somethingthat the enemies of Israel and
Israel's worried about them, andthat's you know, they've
captured an entire foreignpolicy.
And when's the last time we Imean you can argue, trump, some
of the things he's done goagainst the Israelis, and he's
certainly trying to off and on.

(01:28:59):
You know it's maddening, but hereaches out an olive branch to
Putin all the time and I don'tknow if you heard recently he's
and this is one of Trump's, youknow great suggestions that
you'll probably never hear again.
He said, hey, let's have, let'shave Putin be the, you know,
the intermediary and brokerpeace between Iran and Iraq.
Can you imagine that?
But that's what Trump suggested.

(01:29:20):
I don't know if he'll go alongwith that.
He'll come up with somethingelse the next day, or something
he might say let's let BenShapiro do it.
I don't know, for all I know.
So I think when you have thispro-Zionist, obviously that run

(01:29:41):
things in our society, in ourgovernment especially, and you
have more and more obviously ananti-Zionist sentiment against
the people, especially when youhave that left which is so
supposedly run things.
When you have Greta Thunberg, Imean I thought it was
interesting that you know peoplelike James Woods, who is just a

(01:30:02):
lot of interesting stuff, buthe's in the boat for Israel.
All these guys are in the tankfor Israel, but they all started
making fun of poor little GretaThunberg.
I mean Greta, you know.
You know we all kind ofchuckled, made fun of her
because you know how dare you.
You know she comes from a, youknow a major acting family in
her country.
I know that's, you know, hardto believe, but clearly she was
as jason whitlock says.

(01:30:22):
She was installed.
They installed her for apurpose on climate change, but
was that by accident?
She went off the reservationand now they're trying to reign
her in when she started talkingabout israel, or was that again
part of the of the script?
But wasn't she arrested orsomething by the Israel boat?
I don't know.
I haven't kept track of it, butI know she's been ridiculed by

(01:30:47):
even some of the people thatused to like her because now
she's not talking about climatechange and Tony, here this would
be the question, if you couldhear us in the high water mark
for right-wing Christian Zionismwas passed circa 2014.
It declined now, but still verydangerous and oppressive to
America for a shiny object.
Yeah, I would say it probablyhas to, and I think that's the

(01:31:07):
only thing that keeps it afloatis the fact that these people
and again, I don't want tooffend anybody listening,
whatever, but um, if you lookback at the history, the rapture
and christian fundamentalism,it's what is it?
Maybe a little over 100 yearsold, but I think it's the
scofield bible or particularbible I've heard.
You know, certainly not in thedewey reams bible.

(01:31:28):
You know which is what I have?
It's an old catholic bible, but, um, so I think that a lot of
that, because that's the onlyway you can sell this.
What Israel's done from thebeginning and Tony mentioned
Menachem Begin, who was a, if hewasn't a terrorist, I don't
know what was.
He participated in blowing upthe King David Hotel right after

(01:31:48):
Israel was born, and lots ofpeople were killed and they just
they glossed over the stuff,and this is probably what got
people like James Forrestalmurdered, and maybe Joe McCarthy
too, because James Forrestalwas a term in Secretary of
Defense and he was probably themost high profile critic.
Old Joe Kennedy was too JFK'sdad, probably the most high
profile critic of Israel.

(01:32:10):
Saying this is really stupid.
And he was Secretary of Defense, so you weren't going to get
too far in building Israel witha Secretary of Defense like that
.
You know, before he wasactually the first Secretary of
Defense.
Before that it was Secretary ofWar.
He was the first modernSecretary of Defense.
But, as people may or may notknow, he ended up supposedly
jumping from a window atBethesda Naval Hospital.

(01:32:30):
Most of us think he was pushedand Joe McCarthy certainly
thought he was.
Joe McCarthy was his big, itwas a good friend.
I quote this all the time.
I do it on Rents.
All the Rents loves it.
But supposedly and I think itsums up the conspiracy we're
facing better than anything else, and that's James Forrestal
supposedly told McCarthy at onetime because they were good

(01:32:51):
friends.
You know, mccarthy, if therewasn't a giant conspiracy, once
in a while they'd make a mistakein our favor, and I think that
sums it up perfectly Once in awhile they'd make it something.
Once in a while there'd besomething random, there'd be
something there'd be good, likesome, a Trump would come along.
A renegade billionaire thatcouldn't be controlled would

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come along.
Because that was what sold meto Trump.
You know Roger Stone, when hewas the first prominent person.
You know that's when I knewmaybe I had something in history
in my first book, because hecontacted me and said how much
he loved it and he ended upwriting it forward to the
paperback.
So, for good or bad, his name'sassociated with mine because
his name's on the cover of byfar my best-selling book.

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Associated with mine becausehis name is on the cover of by
far my best-selling book.
But he was telling me you knowTrump saw this stuff.
You know behind the scenes he'sbeen making his money and that
made sense to me.
You know that you would makemoney, you'd play the game and
in his early rhetoric Trumpwould talk about that.
He'd say you know, yeah, I tookadvantage of the bankruptcy
laws, which he still made fun ofand it's true he declared

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bankruptcy 10 times or whatever.
But that was a good strategicmove for somebody in his class,
because the bankruptcy laws arebuilt for people like that.
People don't know Barack Obama,the man of the people.
He changed the bankruptcy lawsduring his administration to
make it harder for averagepeople to declare bankruptcy.
But the, you know, the I thinkchapter seven maybe, is what

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most people use.
But whatever Trump and his ilkuse, that's still there, that's
still allowed.
But you know, trump, it madeperfect sense to me that he
would.
He would be, you know, atcocktail parties and you know,
checking out all the young women, which is what he did, and and
just biding his time and saying,you know, checking out all the
young women, which is what hedid, and and just biding his
time and saying, you know, I gotkids.

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Because I think you know what we, what we feel to do is when we
demonize people, we think thatmaybe you know that they're,
they're, you know they're thesedevils and they don't like and
that's what made John Kennedy sogreat in that American
University speech and we justpassed the the, that, the 62nd
anniversary of the AmericanUniversity and he was the first

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American, the first world leaderI know, to see his enemies in
human terms and he talked aboutat the time the Russians were
our enemies.
Now, ironically, they are again.
But he said you know, theybreathe the same air we do.
They cherish their children'sfuture, and I don't think any
like in World War II, you can'timagine Roosevelt saying, well,

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you know, sure, we're fightingthe Germans, but they cherish
their children's future.
Most Americans wouldn't believethey were human enough to even
care about their children.
And so I think that's why, whenwe look at now, when something
like that, where somebody like aTrump I mean, no matter what
you think of him, I haven'theard anything really that he's

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a horrible father or anything somaybe he cherished his
children's future too, not thatthey have much to worry about,
but maybe he looked at that andsaid, hey, I want, you know, I
want to bet.
I don't want everybody.
I made my money, they're setfinancially.
I don't want everybody.
I made my money, they're setfinancially, but I don't know.
I obviously didn't look likethat was true, but that's what
Roger Stone was telling me.
So if there wasn't thismonolithic conspiracy to stop

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people, then you would have, oryou go back to Ross Perot in
1992.
Ross Perot seemed more genuinethan Trump, obviously, and he
wasn't talking about all theissues Trump was.
But you had the basic sense hey, something's wrong and we need
to.
Certainly we need to stop thetrade deal so we don't have the
giant sucking sound and he wasone of the most important people

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that we're trying to.
He sent a private team over totry to rescue POWs and MIAs.
It's a completely forgotten,completely forgotten issue.
We just left them there and whoknows how many died because of
that.
But uh, you know, perot lookedgreat and I was skeptical at the
times.
I said you know, larry king'sinterviewing him and all these
people's like you know you'regonna run for president.

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It's like they wouldn't do thatto a real outsider.
But he sounded.
All indications were he was areal nice guy in person.
And then he suddenly drops outof the race when he's ahead in
the polls, and that you know.
Did they have the conversationwith him?
Was he legitimate?
And did they take him aside andsay you know, this is over,

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you're not going to be able towin?
And then he jumped back inbelatedly, but jumping out he
lost enough support.
So instead of he lost abouthalf his support because in most
of the polls he was ahead, mostof the time in the high 30s
percentage, and then you hadBush and Clinton trailing behind
, both in 30-some percent, andwhen he came back in he ended up

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getting 19%, which was stillthe highest amount since Teddy
Roosevelt in 1912, whatever itwas, but it was 1912, I think.
But you know.
So this is something that'spossible, but we never see any
randomness.
So when Forrestal told McCarthythat he was exactly right, that

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you know we would have, wedon't see any randomness because
we know I mean Thomas Massey itwasn't random that Thomas
Massey by far the best person inCongress, maybe the best person
we've had a long, long time,you know gave that incredible
interview to Tucker Carlsonwhere he talked about Israeli
influence and he talked aboutAIPAC.

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And he did it with humor.
But obviously it doesn't work.
You know, you can joke all youwant, but you don't joke about
this stuff.
And he talked about he was theonly Republican in Congress who
didn't have an AIPAC babysitter.
He didn't have an AIPAC handler.
Aipac is the Israeli lobby andit's, you know, it controls

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Congress.
Obviously.
And boy, you know, after thatinterview, it was less than a
week his wife suddenly died.
His wife was in great shape,early 50s.
They had just taken a vacationwith the grandchildren and I
still have not.
I wrote an article aboutSubstack on Substack at the time
but I still had not heard anyexplanation given for her sudden
death.
To my amazement, massey didn'tsuddenly become a supporter of

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Israel.
He was one of those whoboycotted Netanyahu speaking to
Congress and he's still speakingout.
So it didn't shut him up.
But I have to think that thosetwo events were unfortunately
connected.
But you would have more peoplelike Massey.
Because let's put this, let'ssay you know people know my

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heroes.
Those of you who know me knowmy political heroes, huey Long.
But somebody selling you couldtake Huey Long's speeches word
for word and have a charismaticfigure come out today and that
would be so appealing to themasses.
I mean, you talk aboutsomething that's selling the
sizzle that would sell, likeLisa Douglas used to say on

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Green Acres hotcakes.
You know that would sell veryeasily.
And how could people not bereceptive to that?
Because you would get across-section of the left and
the right.
You would get true populism.
You know all those people outthere in the working class that
are not getting raises anymore.
They've had their pensionstaken from them but are still
required to pay.
You know pensions of all thesecivil servants that have, you

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know, sometimes six-figurepensions, very often have
six-figure pensions.
That would really resonate withthem.
Why do we have to keep makingthe sacrifice?
We have nothing we cansacrifice, but no one's done it
Nobody.
In Huey Long's family, I mean,there's not a single member and
I think it's because they can't.
Because if they try to, I meanI've thought people have

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mentioned me running to Congressmany times over the years.
I've thought about it becauseI'm pretty sure I could sell
something to the people, but theproblem is neither party would
let me and you can't if you'renot and Tony knows that better
than anybody when he tried torun for Congress if you're not
part of that two-party system,unless you're somebody like a
Rossoss perot that came out ofnowhere and, for whatever reason

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, you know, was gettinginterviewed by, uh, larry king,
and you saw what happened torobert f kennedy jr.
He wanted to be an independentand you know they even though,
what happened to all those pollsthat have rfk jr with well over
20 early on, and no one'sexplained that.
And suddenly, just it.
Just what happened?
How did he have all that insupport?

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And then he didn't.
They just don't want any patbuchanan go back.
You know what wonderful.
He was selling some great stuff.
You know, one percent in thepoll.
So that's what they would do.
Somebody like me, or somebodycame along, another human.
They would just use those uhpre-election polls which serve
no purpose other than tomanipulate the vote, and they
would have, you know, they wouldclaim that you know this guy's

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got one percent.
And then what happens is mostpeople say, well, okay, I'll go
to my second choice.
You know this guy, lindseygraham.
You know like that.
You know they find somebodythat uh, that was, uh, was
higher in the polls, in theseridiculous fake polls.
So that's why, know forsomebody to think that this
we're not to believe, that thisis a, this is just one giant

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conspiracy.
Everybody says to me you thinkeverything's a conspiracy.
Well, yes, I do, because we'rerun by conspirators.
It's so predictable Peace neverhappens.
Something good never happens,for the Trump was talking up the
infrastructure, the Democratstalking about that too.
I don't see, as I'm drivingaround.
I live in one of the richestcounties in the United States
and I see how the condition theinfrastructure is in here.

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The other night, you know, thepower went off for an hour and a
half or something, you know.
At night it was just a rain,just a rain, and we are.
Lines are underground.
That never happened 50, 60years ago.
It just didn't.
And so we regressed because wehaven't updated the sensors in
our power grids, which are madein China you really need.

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It's an accident that ourleaders can't realize how
irresponsible that is.
They don't realize howimportant the infrastructure is.
I mean, we have a greatinfrastructure upgrade under
eisenhower, the national highwaysystem, one of the greatest
achievements we've ever had andwe're still living off it, but
we don't do anything.
So I'm driving around my areaand uh, which I don't do that

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often, so I a lot of times thereare months between where I'll
go to a particular place andI'll say, oh well, this road
work hasn't progressed at alland all I see is lanes closed
everywhere.
You know people, you know, inhats, standing along the side of
the roads, apparently not doinganything, holding up slow or
stop signs, and I don't see anyactual work being done ever.
So I just claim it's perpetualroad work.

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That never gets done because Inever see, I never drive out and
say, oh wow, this road's reallycool now, no more potholes.
Doesn't happen, it's perpetualroad work.
It never gets done.
And again, I think it's.
You can go back.
You talk about conspiracy.
Go back to Charles Dickens, oneof my favorite writers, and he
wasn't necessarily thatpolitical of a guy other than
just an advocate for the poor,but in reform classical liberal,

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that political of a guy otherthan just an advocate for the
poor, but and reform classicalliberal.
But in one of his novels he hemade fun and he talked about the
men, that the men who know hownot to get it done.
And this was 1850 ish.
We're still being run.
But and that's that's theincompetence part of the you
have a stew that, uh, you knowthe amer Americans and the world
is being subjected to.

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You have the corruption whicheverybody sees, everybody knows
that, and we have theincompetence.
The incompetence factor is thatthe men who know, now, women,
the men, women, they thems,whatever.
They know how not to get itdone.
It doesn't get done, and theyknow how not to get it done.
So anybody that tries to dosomething, they block it now and

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they'll come up with a reasonwhy you can't do something.
Good, now, if you, if you needanother billion for ukraine,
then that that happens, thatgets done right away.
Israel needs anything andthat's why you'll see, if israel
wants, I don't think they'regoing to stand up there and say,
no, sorry, you're out on yourown now we're kicking you out of
the nest.
You got it.
No, they're not going to dothat.
But if?
Um, so again, I think that thisis, this is I know I'm all over

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the place, people, if youhaven't listened to me before,
this is kind of what I do.
I kind of a free-flowing formwhere I kind of rant back and
forth and tie things togetherfrom history and I don't know
some people like it.
So hopefully you guys do.
But um, and again, I'm sorryI've had to take over the show
here but with my ridiculous uhecho thing, but uh, at least I

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don't have the echo now, but um,so I think that there's no way.
I don't think there's any way toexplain how the wrong thing
always had the fireside theater.
I like to quote that all thetime they used to say everything
you know is wrong.
That was their credo, longforgotten comedy troupe from the
60s.
And everything Americans knowis wrong.
That's why when I'm writing myhidden history books, the people

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that read them are always like,wow, this is amazing and I'm
not making anything up.
And most of this stuff ishidden in plain sight.
It's out there.
It's very easy to find, so thatyou want to know how.
You know how, when youespecially with people fighting
over free speech now and mostAmericans probably not believing
in free speech anymore, we knowneither side does.
The left doesn't believe in itremotely.

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There's a million things theydon't want you to be able to say
and they'll claim it's hatespeech.
And the right doesn't want youto say anything attacking israel
or zionism or they'll.
You know they'll claim that'shate speech and they want to
outlaw it.
So, uh, but if you look back atthe history of this, they'll
say they put an asterisk on theuh, the first amendment in uh,
during world war one.

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And that was uh when woodrowwilson was throwing all the
world war one protesters inprison and he used the precedent
of abraham lincoln, our secularsaint, who is, uh, I think, our
greatest tyrant, but when hewas throwing all those northern
prisoners and in, uh inmakeshift jails and suspending
the risk.
Rid of habeas corpus, that'swhat woodrow wilson uses
precedent.
Took the eugene debs, the greatsocialist leader, and others

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took it to the supreme court.
Oliver wandel holmes, the greatsocialist leader, and others
took it to the Supreme Court.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, thegreat liberal benefactor, who
still has a great reputation butin reality was a eugenicist,
like all these.
Wilson, all these otherliberals were and was a
warmonger who never saw a war hedidn't like.
Like all those you knowestablishment liberals at the
time, holmes ruled in favor ofWilson and that that's where the

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phrase you can't yell fire in acrowded theater came from.
Now, there's probably not onein 100 million Americans that
has any idea of that.
I didn't until, you know, I wasresearching the book.
That was before Chris Gravesand Peter Seacash came along to
do lots of my research for me.
So this one I had to doresearch myself, but largely,
and I couldn't believe that Isaid, wow, that's where that

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came from and I thought.
You know, and I've said manytimes, no matter how you, even
if you can come up with somekind of justification he, he was
using that to justify puttinganti-war protesters in prison.
So, however you look at it,protesting a war is not yelling
fire in a crowded theater.
And yet you, you tell that to,and they'll give you a blank
look, just like you try toexplain the banking system to
them.
You know, under the fracturedlending system it used to be,

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you know, you only had to have10% reserves on hand.
That means 10% real money.
So just imagine you and yourbuddy.
I don't know if I tell Tony hey, tony, I want to.
You know you're doing well, youknow you're doing great.
You're with this gold andsilver thing.
You got going on.
Can you lend me some money?
And Tony, if he uses theFederal Reserve model, if he was
able to do that, he would say,well, sure, okay, what do you

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want?
I thought, how about $1,000?
And Tony would only have tohave what?
Under the old system and nowunder, according to Ron Paul and
others, I don't he wouldn'tneed any money.
I don't think there's anyfraction.
So so if you can explain thedifference between that and
counterfeiting, let me know.
But so the at the, obviously theindividuals out there, I

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especially all the people thatare struggling, the 70, some
percent of Americans that areliving paycheck to paycheck.
Imagine, you know, being ableto just print money.
That's why these 3D printershas anybody thought to do that?
I don't know how that works.
How do you print?
I mean, I worked with printers.
How does a gun come out of aprinter?

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But that's what they claim youcan do.
So to me, if I would look at it, I'd say, hey, let's use the
Federal Reserve model, let'sprint some money here and just
imagine what that could do forpeople.
They could print their ownmoney, but obviously that would

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be met and treated fardifferently than the Federal
Reserve.
Back in the hidden history, Ithink it was.
I have a quote from the personthat, if you doubt that how that
system works, the FederalReserve, the guy that ran the
Federal Reserve Bank in Bostonback in the day.
He answered a question and Isaid, yeah, that's true, we do
lend money we don't have.
So I mean, just think of that.
Our system is built on this.
This is Tony's wheelhouse.
But I try to tell people thatand I think, again, they don't

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believe it because it'sincomprehensible.
They could not possibly believesomething that ridiculous
because they've all we've allseen counterfeiters and went
back to the G-Men and J EdgarHoover, you know, going out to
the counterfeiters.
These are bad guys, you know.
I remember Fred Flintstone andBarney Rubble had a
counterfeiting thing going onone of their episodes back in
the day, so it goes back to theStone Age.

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But people recognize you can'tdo that.
Yet our entire what a joke Ourentire banking system is built
on that.
But if you try to tell peoplethey just give you the look.
And again, I don't think theybelieve the average normie

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doesn't believe anything.
I say about that because even ifI can cite the source and I can
I try to source everything Ihave because it's, you know, as
J Edgar Hoover said, who was oneof the all time great
conspirators, but he was talkingabout the communist conspiracy,
but it applies to everythingwhen he said the average citizen
just cannot comprehend evil,this, you know this large
something, this monstrous, thisbig, and that's when we're

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trying to talk about thesethings to the average person,
especially if they're doing well, anybody that's successful in
this system, how are you goingto sell this to them.
What are you talking about?
Get a job, buddy, go get someskills.
That's their, you know.
Go get some skills.
That's their favorite thing tosay.
Learn some skills, okay.
Or the AI.

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Don't worry about the AI andthe low-priced H-1B visa workers
and the illegal immigrants,don't worry about that.
Just, you know, learn someskills.
But that works for you know, 20%of the people.
I call this the casino economy.
People know the casinos work20% have to win, 80% have to

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lose for 20% to win.
That's how the casinos work andthat's pretty much how our
economy works.
20% win to one degree oranother varying degrees, and 80%
lose to one degree or another.
And the bottom 50% are reallylosing because they make less
than 28,000 a year and that'sgrowing with every new migrant

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that comes in the countrythey're entering at the bottom.
That's why it's it's, it's veryit's.
It's destructive to any type offirst world economy.
But I don't think we have afirst world economy anymore and
so I don't know.
Tony, I'm hoping I'm not droningon too much.
I'm kind of all over the placeand people.
You said they're getting ahistory lesson.

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You're getting a hidden historylesson here.
So you've and actually believeit or not?
They did.
Let me.
I don't think I don't know ifI'm even employed there anymore.
They took away my email so I'mprobably not.
But for several years three,four or five years my county
adult education program let meteach a course on the JFK

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assassination.
First it was the JFKassassination and then it became
.
They put me in their moviescourses, which was even easier,
and I just played Oliver Stone'sJFK every class and just would
stop it and comment on it.
I said you know, this iseasiest money I ever made.
Talk about a labor of love.
But COVID, you know, like itkilled so many other things,

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that kind of killed that deal,and it was only once a quarter.
So it wasn't like I.
You know I made even less fromthat than I do from my books and
that's saying something.
So it wasn't a big moneymakerscheme but it was nice.
But even then, you know, when Idid that, that's the subject I.
That's what I can lecture beston If I'm going to lecture on a

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subject.
I know the JFK assassinationinside out.
I started in the mid-70s workingas a teenage volunteer for Mark
Lane and was prominent criticof the Warren Commission.
So I know this issue betterthan just about anybody or as
good as anybody.
But I put together a PowerPointpresentation I thought was
great for this class, but everyone of my classes would always

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have very few people because,you know, not that many people
and it was, you know, I thinkthey were were charging 70, 80
bucks or something in which Ithought was outrageous.
But you know I don't controlthat.
Uh, so I can see why peopledidn't, you know, pay that.
But to listen to some, you know, thought criminal like me
talking about it.
But I would always get one ofthe people in there almost all

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the time they'd be one.
It was was almost like theywere placed there.
There would be a lone nutterand no matter what.
It frustrated me At first.
It really frustrated me becauseI said, look, I can't put
together a better presentationthan this, I can't put together
a stronger argument, and yet Ican't convince this guy.
A lot of times it was a youngkid and I would say what do you

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do?
I mean, if they just keep,they're ignoring everything,
you're just gonna, you know,putting.
The crime was never investigated.
You know talking about thebullet holes were too low and
all in the, in the clothing andthe autopsy face.
You know all these things, thecondition of the bullet, all
these things that are obviouslygreat evidence, the chain of
possession problems, and they,they don't believe it.

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They believe Liesel did it andI don't, I can't believe that.
These are all people that arepart of some kind of conspiracy.
So you're dealing with thatkind of mentality and
unfortunately, even the JFKassassination field at the
height back in the 70s maybe Ithink it was 90% of the American
public believe there was aconspiracy and now it's like 60%

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or more.
So that's the impact that theright wing has had and even
though the MAGA right type allbelieve, you know that JFK was
killed by conspiracy.
There's enough there, and alsothe woke left as well.
They've done a damage onKennedy's reputation.
So a lot of people don't careanymore.
They say, well, yeah, he gotkilled, but who cares?

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You know he was no good, he wasa womanizer and keep having sex
with all these movie starswhile he's almost dead all the
time.
You know he was too unhealthyto be president but he was
having nonstop sex with moviestars.
And you know Nazi spies and allthey come up with anything and
they're.
Oh yeah, that's true, jfk didthat.
Consorting with the mafia washis.

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His brother attorney generalwas the only one ever to be
rounding them up and trying toprosecute them.
So it's uh, and so when you havethat kind of smear campaign
against somebody, so eventuallyit gets to the point where
people don't care whether youwho cares?
He wasn't a good guy, becauseyou think of somebody that was
killed by a conspiracy.
You're thinking, well, this wasa heroic figure.
And that's why, when you cometo the Trump assassination,

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whatever it was, whatever thatwas, and again, millions of
people, that's where.
Look how far we've gone, wherewe've had such a rabbit hole
element, now the Sandy Hookfactor, where you've got
millions of people who don'tthink that Trump assassination
was real.
And I, you know there's a lotof elements to it that does look
pretty fishy, but just imaginethat even you know, 15 years ago

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it would have never been thecase.
And um, and of course, trump,you know, doesn't help with his
personality.
It's basically him and hispeople are just Cash Mattel is
sitting here saying, well,there's nothing to see here,
while he's saying Epstein killedhimself, and it's like that.
You know that.
I don't know that the MAGAmovement can ever recover from
that, because they're at somepoint they're going to have to

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confront that as, like you know,this is probably the most
obvious conspiracy of moderntimes is that Epstein didn't
kill himself.
I mean, that's pretty much.
I would say.
Probably 99% of the publicbelieves that, but we're
supposed to believe that exceptfor the people that could do
something about it.
And then you have Dan Manginosaying, yeah, I've seen the file
.
What file have you seen, dan?

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The missing evidence that wastaken from Epstein's safe in his
mansion.
And they tell you, oh, we can'tfind it.
It's like the original apollomoon landing.
Can we know where they're at?
It's right there with them.
I don't know, man, we can'tfind them.
Or nicola tesla's uh, uh papersthat you know uncle john trump,
donald trump's uncle, was sentby the government.

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They're all missing.
They're all together somewhere.
I don't know where they're at,but we can't find it.
And people just say, okay, thatmakes sense, we can't find it.
Sure, why wouldn't you?
You know the original Apollomoon landing tapes are important
, probably tape the Super Bowlover it or something.
You know why would you keepthat?
That didn't make any sense.
And you know something like theTesla papers.

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You know it's just free energyand earthquake machines and all
this great stuff he was workingon and nobody else, apparently,
supposedly, has never been ableto since.
But yeah, we don't need to seethat.
There's no reason to to to seethat.
And now you know epstein'swhatever is in there, you know
it's like he's.
And I've said jelaine maxwell, Ithink you know she should be,
she should be pardoned becauseit's unfair that she was.
She was, uh, convicted of sextrafficking minors to no one

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because they didn't announceanybody she trafficked them to.
If I had been a defenseattorney, I would say your honor
, uh, they haven't produced asingle name.
Uh, who did my my client, uh,you know, can you tell us who
she trafficked these, theseyoung ladies to?
Well?
No, we can't, we can't, we'rejust and uh, but she's still in
prison there.
So, but he's um, how manysubjects have I covered here,

(01:58:58):
folks?
I talk about my new book.
I'm working on my book onsports, which is going to be my
most, uh, my most controversialone.
Yet when you read that, folks,it's uh, that one won't be.
I don't think I'll be able toget a publisher for that,
because I'm going to be talkingabout the racial dynamics in
sports and nobody, nobody hasever touched that.
So that's where we're goingwith that.

(01:59:21):
But so it's, and I think TonyOdoman says I sound great.
So I don't know how many, and Ihope certainly we all hope for
David to come back soon.
I know I don't know much aboutit, but I know when I've been
listening to it.
Recently Travis's son has beenon here, so it's great.
You have obviously Tony'sfilling in and I think Jason

(01:59:43):
Barker and Karen Carpenterfilled in one time, if I heard
right Good friends of ours.
So at any rate, I've prettymuch summed up the world and had
a great.
But I think you need to look,especially something like Israel
.
You need to look at what we'reseeing.

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It's front and center.
People need to understand thehistory.
Tony mentioned the liberty.
You know certainly the foundingof it and how, even after the
King David Motel terrorismincident, people didn't stop.
You know you had people likeForrestal saying, look, we can't
, this is mad, but they did.

(02:00:24):
People like old Joe Kennedy.
And if you look at one of thegreat letters and I was going to
include it as an appendix inAmerican Memory Hall, my latest
book, but it's a letter from a22 year old jfk and it's an
incredible letter and if youwant to know why I love jfk so
much, read that letter, becausehe is so astute and he is so
mature and he this was from like19, the late 1930s, 1940 is

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something like that, and so it'slike eight years, seven, eight,
eight years before Israelbecame a country.
He talks about what a disasterthis was.
He analyzes the situation.
It's a letter to his father,who is well-versed on the
subject and was one of the earlycritics of Israel as well, and
he talks about how this is mad,it's not going to work, and so
this is why history is important.

(02:01:11):
So you go back, notunderstanding JFK's feelings and
where he came from, from hisfather.
His father, old Joe Kennedy,was also one of the behind the
scenes, one of the first criticsof the Federal Reserve.
This was a banker.
He knew how ridiculous it wasand it wouldn't work Again.
But they don't tell you that.
They come up, they make upstories about the mob and all
kinds of stuff like that, whichwere all lies, cia, mafia lies.

(02:01:34):
But this letter, if you readthat, it tells you, wow, this
guy really had something.
And so later when he becomespresident.
It's natural that he was gettingin a war of words with Israel
behind the scenes about themdeveloping nuclear weapons.
And it's ironic because now youhave supposedly Iran on the
verge of developing nuclearweapons, and they've been on the

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verge since 1979.
You know it's been the lastthing since then.
We've been right there.
You know we've got to dosomething about this since 1979.
And I don't think it's anyaccident that JFK was the last
president to stand up to Israel.
No one has.
Jimmy Carter was fairlyeven-handed, but JFK stood up to
him, said no, you are not todevelop nuclear weapons, and

(02:02:18):
then he was killed.
So you want to say that had nopart to play in that?
I don't know, tony, are wegoing for another hour?
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
We still got the echo down.

Speaker 4 (02:02:33):
Okay, no, I don't have the echo now.
I don't have the echo done okayuh, no, I don't have the echo.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
Now I don't know.
Okay, I worked on a few things,why in a great segment, by the
way I just I wanted you to keepgoing.
I like the, I like the streamof consciousness.
That's the way I do my shows,um, probably just uh, learned a
lot by watching you, so I gointo that whole cycle, kind of
going back and then tying it ina bow at the end.
So you did magnificence there,thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:03:00):
I appreciate that.
I hope people liked it.
I saw the numbers going up so Iguess people are listening, so
that's good.

Speaker 2 (02:03:06):
Yeah, it was a good history lesson.
You can use history as a guideas you do for the future.
You can use history as a guideas you do for the future, except
there's so much with thetechnocratic age.
That is something you know.
Harry Truman said the onlything new under the sun is the
history you don't know.
That's generally true, exceptfor now, with the leaps in

(02:03:29):
technology and AI and blockchainand other things.
That could be great.
It's kind of like a weapon thatcan be used for good or it can
be used for evil, and I oftenhave that historical sense, but
it's hard to make heads or tailsanymore.
Don I mean you go back to thepolitical influence, because

(02:04:02):
this is the future, like we'regoing to be talking a lot about
the israeli lobby and apac and,uh, the influence that it has on
our government and our foreignpolicy and back gosh.
You remember this?
Don you go back to the 90s, andI mentioned this before, but
you know pat buchanan just onthe mclachlan group, just in an
offhand comment, said you knownobody, and this is talking
about desert storm.
So this is like 1990s.
Like nobody really supports theuh, a hot war, uh, besides the

(02:04:24):
people over at uh, I forgot.
I think it was like somedefense contractor in their, in
their amen corner at.
APAC.
I thought that was great, thatwas cutting edge.
Back then you were quicklydisposed of if you were anywhere
near just saying hey, there'sthis very powerful foreign

(02:04:47):
nation lobby that's made up ofJews and they're going to push
you into a war and that's okay.
On my bookshelf I've got a bookfrom the 80s called None Dare
Speak Out.

Speaker 4 (02:05:02):
We've talked about it before.
Paul Finley yeah, representingPaul Finley.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
Yes, and that was again that was cutting edge.
What I see now and I want toget your opinion before Billy
joins us what I see now is thatthere is a Like I put in my
comment.
I think the high watermark wasaround 2014.
I see a massive decline in thatbeing.
You know, reigning people in,like you had the Ron Paul

(02:05:30):
talking about Zionism andpolitical Zionism.
So I think it's very healthythat we have this conversation.
Obviously, you can, you know,in this country, you can have

(02:05:50):
that opinion that that Israel ismore important than America,
especially a lot of.
I grew up in the south and theChristian Zionism is really
strong and I didn't get thatwhen I got back from, you know,
my, my tours and I, especially Igot home from Iraq and I I did
not understand, uh, theviewpoints of people that I went
to church with and others, andso it's like it for me.

(02:06:11):
I had to, like, get rid of thatpart of my past and and, uh,
christianity to me, I had tojettison that so I could have a
relationship with Christ, Icould get past the political
aspect of it, because it was notto me.
It was, you know, christianZionism and that idolatry, like
you see the waving of theIsraeli flag within John Hagee's

(02:06:34):
church down in South Texas.
I mean it's very idolatrous andit's so antithetical, like I
mean I was like I'm trying tofind it in the Bible here where
Jesus wanted me to like supporta nation state to bomb people.
I don't, I can't find it, butthat's what you find in like the
.
It's kind of a, but it's a deadend and I think that history

(02:06:57):
will show that those of us whowere skeptical to be like way
back and like you, and I mean,just when I ran for Congress, I
had to go meet with AIPAC.
They make you go If you don'tmeet with them, you're, I mean
and they didn't know what tomake of me.
They had somebody come in andtake notes.
I had a lot to say aboutdemography, had a lot to say

(02:07:19):
about, uh, foreign aid, you know, and things that uh, they had.
They had not, um, they had not.
Uh been a proponent ofeliminating foreign aid to
countries that burn the americanflag.
They wanted to support foreignaid for everyone.
I thought that was interesting.
Uh, we got, we got billy here.
Uh, with this as well, let'ssee, let's put, let's put him on

(02:07:41):
.
We got billy ray val.
He's out, you're, you're out,you're walking the streets can
you?

Speaker 3 (02:07:48):
can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (02:07:50):
I can hear you excellent.
I didn't know we're gonna bethe cameo.
We're gonna get like a real.

Speaker 3 (02:07:56):
Yeah, we're gonna walk in the street I figured
it'd be a good idea to leteverybody see the South Bronx
for a little bit, you know,since it's not fully exposed to
the world.
You know, everybody has a youknow preconception of it.
Well, we're going to walk thestreets of the South Bronx today
while we're doing the interview.

(02:08:17):
What's up?
What's up guys?
What's up, tony?
It's good to see you, good totalk to you.
How you doing.
What's up?
What's up guys?
What's up, tony?
It's good to see you, good totalk to you.

Speaker 2 (02:08:23):
How you doing.
We're doing great.
I'm happy that we dispelled theecho.
We had an echo with Don forsomething I was able to.

Speaker 3 (02:08:29):
I heard it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:31):
I think we're okay now.

Speaker 3 (02:08:33):
What's up, don, how you doing.

Speaker 4 (02:08:40):
All right.
So it's like American Plug back, huh, because you know I get
people asking me what's going onwith American Unplugged.
So here's your kind of anunofficial American.

Speaker 3 (02:08:44):
Unplugged, I guess Right, right, right, what's?

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
up, tony, we're going to plug this back in on
Saturday.

Speaker 3 (02:08:50):
What's going on, Tony ?

Speaker 2 (02:08:52):
I just wanted to get your take on.
You know I had the first hourtalked about the no Kings
protest.
I talked about the MAGA maniac.
Who's the left left-wingactivist um trying to.
I looked at just a high levelof propaganda in the news cycle
the last 48, 72 hours, thoughtthat was interesting.

(02:09:13):
Um, don and I were looking atthe geopolitical ramifications
of israel doing a preemptivestrikes on Iranian targets and
all that's going on there.
But I just want to get your,get your feel.
But your, it's your, yourspidey senses.
What are they saying?

Speaker 3 (02:09:32):
Who's the?
The mega mania?
Is that the guy that thatkilled them?
The Minnesota?

Speaker 2 (02:09:39):
lawmakers.
Yeah yeah, that's such a weirdthing, because I uh drudge has
it as the MAGA maniac and thenzero edge has him as the no
Kings shooter.

Speaker 4 (02:09:48):
Yeah, he.
He worked for Tim walls, Didn'the do?
Tim walls appointed?
Uh, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (02:09:55):
it's like, I think that's just kind of where we are
.
But you don't know, mindcontrol, you understand?

Speaker 3 (02:09:59):
Well, this is all fifth generation warfare.
It's it's my way of explainingall the nonsense that's going on
, all the Probable psyops thatare going on.
It's fifth generation warfare.
These people have left the oldplaybook behind.
They're not.
They're not.
They're not operating the sameway they used to.

(02:10:23):
Um, they are colonizing theminds of the people, us included
.
So, when we have a mega shooteror whatever they're calling them
the maga maniac or the no kingsshooter, whatever, like, it's
something different for bothsides.
You know, both sides believesomething different about the

(02:10:44):
guy.
Um, there's a lot ofdisinformation going around and
that's just the the nature ofwhat we do now.
Uh, the disinformation is areal thing.
We have to, we have to try toweave our way through it and, in
all actuality, there's no realway to know what the truth is.

(02:11:04):
You know, um, yeah, the guyworked for tim waltz, right?
But um, uh, his neighbor said,or his roommate says, that he
listened to info warsreligiously, which I can believe
.
Um, you know, like, what?
What?
What needs to happen to aperson?
How much does a person need tobe radicalized in order for

(02:11:29):
something like this to happen?
You know?
So I can certainly believe thathe used to listen to InfoWars.
You know, or he still listensto InfoWars.
That's what his roommate said.
And then he was also, if thefootage is correct, from what I
saw, he was also a preacher in achurch talking about how the

(02:11:49):
Democrats got demons in them.
You know.
So you know we get to thispoint and and people die.
I've been saying somethingsimilar to this for a while.
I think we all have that.
We keep pushing this rhetoric.
People are going to die, peopleare going to get hurt, and
that's already happened on bothsides because of the fifth

(02:12:13):
generation warfare that they'rerunning on the people.
I'd like for us to get back toa place where we're like okay,
it's different, we havedifferent ideas, we disagree
with one another, and that'sfine.
It's fine to disagree with oneanother, but we're not going to
say that the other side isvampires.

(02:12:37):
You know kid traffickers forthe most part.
If you're going to say that, ifyou're going to say they're kid
traffickers, let's have someproof of that right.
And if the only proof we haveis Epstein, we got Bill Clinton
in there and we got Donald Trump, so we got both sides right.
We got MAGA MAGA is very wellrepresented in the Epstein side,

(02:12:59):
and then we got Bill Clintonand we got Prince Andrew and all
these other scumbags that wentto that island to do whatever
the hell they want to do.
But beyond that, the rhetoricthat has taken hold in the
alternative media and both ofyou guys know that I've been
slowly trying to climb my wayout of this is mostly fifth

(02:13:21):
generation warfare.
It's propaganda.
This is what they're doing.
This is how they win elections.
This is how they perceive Imean mold reality.
It's a different perception ofreality for everybody, depending
on your views and depending onwhat bubble you live in, what

(02:13:42):
news you're getting, becauseeverybody has a tailored news
feed.
Pretty much, if you're onInstagram or something like that
and you're clicking on a newsfeed, they're going to keep
feeding you certain things thatare similar to what you watch
often and keep giving that toyou.
That's on on purpose.
It could be for marketing, uhum purposes, but it can also be

(02:14:04):
for uh, mind colonization and uh, social, um, social molding.
You know which is?
There's evidence for that allover the place.
They've admitted this.
So I think that's where we arewith this.
You know, um, can I believe thatthis guy went out and shot
people.
Yeah, I could totally believethat, because he probably thinks

(02:14:24):
he's saving the country.
You know, like Michael Flynnsaid one time and big shots to
David Knight If he's listening.
God bless you.
I hope you're feeling better.
Shouts to Travis Um, you know,but but um, michael Flynn, uh,
gave birth to the digitalwarriors.
You know he's like oh, you'redigital warriors, you are in the

(02:14:47):
battle with us.
This isn't a battle thatexcludes you.
We need you to participate inthis battle and people are
invested in that fashion.
So, nope, I wouldn't besurprised in the least bit if
this guy did.
I believe this guy did it, youknow.
But people, it's the alternativeit, you know.
But people, it's thealternative media, you know.
So people are going to say, oh,he's a liberal or he's whatever
.
Like I, I don't subscribe tothat at this point in time.

(02:15:08):
I don't believe there's enoughevidence besides him working for
Tim Waltz and his roommate saidthat that was something that he
just did for the community.
He just did this for thecommunity.
Um, I don't know, I, I, I don'tknow, I don't know.
I tend to believe, especiallywhen InfoWars came around, and
David Knight would know a lotabout that, and so would you,
tony.
As soon as InfoWars came around, I was like, oh man, I could

(02:15:29):
believe it, because the nonsensethat comes out of that filth
rag of operation is incredibleand people believe it.
I believed it for many, many,many, many years.
Thank, thank to the Lord.
God that that I don't believeit at this point, that I'm
probably caught up in some otherway, but I'm not caught up in

(02:15:52):
that one and I'm very happyabout that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:53):
I found it interesting I want to get Don's
take on this too.
I as far as like him being amega maniac or a left wing
activist or whatever.
I found that to be interestingthat he had the markers of both.
And you look at the shootercrooks in Pennsylvania, that kid
or whoever, whoever he was,when they went to his house and
everything was cleaned andhermetically sealed and all the

(02:16:16):
stuff he was both and like hehad like both, uh ties to, and
same thing with Lee HarveyOswald and others like, um, the
Congresswoman that was shot andDon you, off the top of my head,
I don't remember her name, buther husband Gabby, gabby
Giffords.
Yeah, gabby Giffords?
Yes, and I was.
I was thinking of Gabby, but Icouldn't remember.
I remember, uh, that guy wasthe same way, like he had the

(02:16:39):
his.
That shooter was like we.
Is he left wing or right wing?
He has all the things, and Ithink that's interesting that
they just use these and I and Idon't know if it's they, but, um
, there's so much mental illnessanymore.
But it was a, it was a, acoordinated hit.
You know, like this waspremeditated.
It was, uh really bizarre.
So, anyway, just somethinginteresting to look at when I I

(02:17:01):
don't, uh, I'm with bill, Ithink it's fifth generation
morph, it's, but this is a moreon your mind.
And you see, both sides areeager to you know the spell or
say that well, that shooter wasfrom this, this camp or that
camp, but they like make it both.
Like the guy had no king'sflyers in his car, right, you
know the same thing.
So it's just uh interesting andhe had a manifesto.

Speaker 3 (02:17:24):
All these people seem to have a manifesto I I that
that never that never jives withme.
if I'm going out to do anythinglike that, I'm not writing it
down like it's, like I'm notmaking a list and leaving it
there for people to find.
Like this guy had a list ofDemocrats that he wanted to kill
, I think.
I think Tim Walz was one ofthem Don't quote me on that, but

(02:17:46):
from what I remember, I thinkhe was one of them, you know,
but all of them have a manifesto.
I don't get that.
I mean, that's not what I woulddo if I was doing something
like it's like OJ Simpson, youknow what I would do if I
committed the murder, you know,but I don't understand.
So that's the part that makesme skeptical.
I am, you know, a conspiracytheorist, a conspiracy analyst

(02:18:10):
at heart.
No matter how hard I'm tryingto get out of the freaking
rabbit hole, I still think.
You know, you see somethinglike that and it's going to
raise alarm bells Like what?
Why are all these people?
Why do all these people feelnecessary to write this down?
Maybe it's a medical conditionthat I'm not aware of, but it
raises alarm bells for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
What part of the float and the parade were you in
in Washington DC this pastweekend?
Billy?

Speaker 3 (02:18:42):
Oh man, the one that resembled, uh, north korea most.
I don't know which one that was, but, uh, no, I was not there,
um, but, but, but I heard, um, Iheard that it was a disaster.
I don't know.
I mean, to be honest, Iexpected more, um, from what I
saw, from the footage that I saw.
I expected more uniformity.
I expected, I don't know, itwas just very black, like even

(02:19:05):
for a military parade, likeDonald Trump is doing it.
You would think it would be allyou know, like a very
awe-inspiring thing or somethingyou know because he saw he has
such a pompous personality.
But no, I mean, that's anotherthing.
You know, all these things thatare going on, everybody's

(02:19:26):
trying, everybody's thinkingabout, what's this distracting
me from?
You know, like, what's thisdistracting me from?
What's the issue here?
Um, I, I think it's importantthat we realize that all these
things are going on, maybe notto distract but to overwhelm.
You know you have the wars wehave in the Ukraine and, of

(02:19:50):
course, what's going on in Iran,with Israel.
You know we have Donald Trumpcausing all types of
distractions.
You know we have this militaryparade and we had the no Kings
parade all over the nation.
You know it was.
It was crazy.
So it's.
Everybody starts toautomatically think what's it's?
What is this distracting mefrom it's?

(02:20:10):
I don't think it's.
I don't think it's meant todistract, it's meant to
overwhelm.
It's meant to overwhelm.
This is per Steve Benning.
It's a flooding the zone.
This is the strategy.
Just I and I know he doesn'thave much control over the
Israel thing, so that popped off, but anything else that's going
on with Trump or in that world,it's meant to overwhelm.

(02:20:31):
They're hitting you witheverything they possibly can to
overwhelm you.
All of these things areimportant.
What's going on with money isimportant, and what's going on
with our civil liberties isimportant.
All of these things areimportant.
They're not, in my opinion,they're not meant to distract,
they're just meant to overwhelmyou to the point that you can't
do anything about it.

(02:20:51):
You know.
That's why I think StephenMiller is the de facto president
of the United States.
I think he's literally settingthings up for Trump and Trump
says great, because he tells himhe has a nice head of hair or
something like that, and he's avery dangerous individual.
And he twists, he uses pseudolaw, he uses semantics in order

(02:21:15):
to change the law into somethingthat will fit whatever he wants
at the time the law intosomething that will fit whatever
he wants at the time.
So that's being thrown at youactively and that's an admitted
strategy on behalf of MAGA.
It's an admitted strategy.
This is psychological warfare atits finest and it's never been
more evident, in my opinion,than it is right now.

(02:21:37):
If people don't see it now, Idon't know personally how to
change people's minds or how tomake them realize that we're all
being manipulated here.
But it's being admitted by thepeople that we look up to.
Not that I look up to SteveBannon, but I'm saying there's
people that do you know, or inthe MAGA movement and even you

(02:22:00):
know, on the left.
These things are admitted now.
It's all mental manipulation.
So there's that.
No, I didn't go to either ofthe parades.
I didn't go to the no Kingsparade, even though I would have
if I wasn't doing anything.
But my wife had set somethingup for me and if I said no, I'd
be in really big trouble.

(02:22:21):
So I had to skip the parade.
But I certainly wasn't goingover to DC.
If I did go to DC I would gosee the pandas, you know, at the
zoo, not not for the parade.

Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
Well, last week on my show before this latest cycle
kicked off, I talked about what,the whatever Again it's like.
The headlines came up and itwas just kind of a political
nonsense story and I said whatelse is going on?
And I talked about bilderberg.
Bilderberg was happening thislast week as soon as
bilderberg's open or over uh,friday the 13th kicks off, and

(02:22:56):
now we have a whole new war.
That's true.
I mean, it was the next day yeah, yeah it kicked off and so, um,
interesting, uh, that we're,we've kind of, you're right.
I mean, it's so many thingshappening at once and that's
meant to disrupt you.
It's like the tempo.
You can't stay ahead of thenews.
So we've been talking aboutthis for years, but it does
accelerate, right, and these arethe times they wipe the slate

(02:23:19):
clean, put a new uh operatingsystem on top of that which is
now.
You know, now, with the war,now you have to choose, uh,
caitlin jenner or whatever.
Uh, sipping wine in a bombshelter in israel saying go
trump.
You know, uh, that's true, andI'm like I live in the upside

(02:23:40):
down.
You know it's uh like theseterrorists aren't gonna win.
I'm like, uh, ian carroll putout a tweet I thought was funny,
gareth.
I reposted this and it was mademe laugh and it was like, uh, I
just threw a rock through myneighbor's window.
Please pray for me as I, as Ihave to endure their you know
what?

Speaker 3 (02:23:59):
I think it was ted cruz that said something similar
, that he was like pray forisrael.
Pray for israel, we need youright now.
You know, I'm like, didn't they?
They were the ones that struckiran right as far as I know.
And he's like pray for israel,like I said what?
Where are we living?

Speaker 2 (02:24:19):
there's what kind of?

Speaker 3 (02:24:20):
1984 stuff is this what's up, what's up?

Speaker 2 (02:24:23):
that's, that's how, that's how politics and that's.
I think, uh, the upside ofanother great tweet was, uh, uh,
gareth eich, and he said, uh,like the upside of all this is
now we get to see who's on theepstein client list.
Whoever supports this, it's ontheotton list because it's so
blatantly anti, it's anti-StAugustine of the idea of

(02:24:46):
Christianity's just war.
It's preemptive strike.
You saw that in Iraq.
That's very Third Reich-ish,that's, you know, like a
preemptive strike is against allprinciples of sound warfare,
all that stuff.
By the way, you can go backthrough history.
A preemptive strike usuallyends in a defeat.
And I'm just kind of thinkingthrough my wheelhouse.

(02:25:08):
Like you know, the japanese didthat too.
We did that in iraq and wedon't rule iraq.
You can't even trade in dollarsthere, it's illegal.
So I mean you could, you couldgo through, and Germany did that
with the invasion of Poland.
So there's a whole host ofhistorical references for that.
But they did reset the tempoand they reset the news, the

(02:25:34):
headlines and everything elsethat's going on.
So that has been interesting towatch.
But I noticed it in real timeand I called it out because I
was like hey, bilderberg'smeeting.

Speaker 3 (02:25:45):
The Bilderberg meetings I look at.
It's funny because this is oneof the benefits.
I don't regret being in therabbit hole with Alex Jones for
as long as I was, because Iwouldn't have learned about
David Knight or yourself, tonyWell, maybe you, we met
separately from InfoWars, but Icertainly would have known about
David Knight.
But when I was damn, I lost mytrain of thought.

(02:26:09):
What did you say, tony?
You said something so it couldjog my memory.
What were you talking?

Speaker 2 (02:26:13):
about.
I was talking about how theyreset the news cycle in
Bilderberg.
Oh, Bilderberg.

Speaker 3 (02:26:18):
So back in the day when I was watching InfoWars,
bilderberg was a secret.
You know it legit was a secret.
Nobody reported on it and whenthe mainstream did report on it,
they said it was a lie.
You know, um, or you know, orvery secretive.
Now we have access to theBilderberg invitees list on

(02:26:45):
Drudge.
No, I'm not sleeping.
Who is that?
Now we get to see it on Drudge.
You know it's open foreverybody to see.
I thought it was a, it washilarious.
I clicked on it and you see,peter Thiel, alex Karp, you know
, uh, zaid Zachariah or whateverhis name is, from CNN, was on,

(02:27:08):
uh, was on the list.
Like it's like okay, like nowit's mainstream news.
Bilderberg is here.
Here's the list.
Um, so I look at Bilderberg likearea, like area 51.
Now you know, everybody knowsabout area 51 and they still try
to keep you away.
But I mean, what are theyreally holding in Area 51?
And what are they really doingat Bilderberg that we're not

(02:27:30):
going to find out about?
You know, everything is laidout there at this point.
So when I saw that, I was like,look at this, we've come quite
a long way.
I mean, they've reported onBilderberg for some time, but to
be that easy to find a clientlist.
I remember back in the day wehad to dig for that, you know.
And right now we just click onit and boom, there's the client
list.
I mean the client list, I'msorry, the all the people that

(02:27:52):
were invited to show up at uh,at bilderberg, you know so right
it's, it's become that open atthis point.
So I um, I don't put too muchemphasis on bilderberg like I
used to back in the day.
It's like, oh my god, it'shappening.
Like now.

Speaker 2 (02:28:05):
It's like, okay, it's a meeting, you know, I don't
because I think over time thelegacy media and real journal,
like it, whatever if there everwas real journalism in this
country or in the west hasdissipated so much that you can
pretty much with impunity dowhat you want, whether you're
the World Economic Forum or theUN or Bilderberg or Bohemian

(02:28:28):
Grove or any secret society.
You can pretty much runroughshod over the rule of law
or the constitution because youhave the two parties.
Now that are so dumb,everything's dumbed down.
But back in the I mean it wasreal scholarship back in the 80s
Don knows this better thananybody 70s, 80s and 90s there
was some real scholarship andjournalism going on that

(02:28:48):
actually frightened theestablishment.
I don't think anythingfrightens them anymore.
They did a lot of suppressionof people that were digging into
conspiracy research and hiddenhand and deep state stuff, but
that's not so anymore.
I mean it's it's because it'sso fractured and I think they
control so much of the so-calledopposition.

(02:29:11):
I mean it's like it's hard toeven.
And then you hear that inalternative media, even if
you're like I've been calledeverything because you know I
I'm just going to give myanalysis based on what I think
is true and then I will.
I won't be enough for one side,or I won't be enough for the
other side, or the it's.
It's crazy, then you'll becalled a shill or a controlled
op or whatever.
But there really is controlledops.

(02:29:33):
There really is.
And it's funny that the morecontrolled they are, the less
people can see them is that'sanother interesting part about
all of this.
But I think that's why, billy,I think it's uh, it's just so
much easier for them, just toyou know, run everything out in
the open well, yeah, and thatgoes back to the fifth
generation warfare.

Speaker 3 (02:29:53):
I don't.
I don't think they have to dohalf of the things they used to
do back in the day like they.
They have social media now.
It's, it's the biggest, thetool for manipulation that there
maybe has ever been.
Uh, in in our, our, what is itin in humanity's time here on
earth.
It's.
Social media can manipulatepeople in in ways I've, I've

(02:30:17):
never.
I mean I can't.
I still have a hard timeunderstanding how we are where
we are right now.
Although I have, you know,theories and there's a lot of
circumstantial evidence to backup certain things, it's still
hard for me to figure out howthe hell we got here.
Like it's so obvious to me thatthe road we're traveling down

(02:30:40):
is filled with thorns and narrow, and you know it's just not a
good deal, but people want to godown this road anyway.
I don't understand.
And social media is one of theways that perception is
manipulated.
All of us got to see it in theelection of 2024.

(02:31:01):
You know, and now people areturning around and saying, wait
a minute, this is not what Ivoted for, like the head of
Latinas for Trump.
She came out and said wait aminute, this is not what we
voted for.
You know, maybe you weren'tpaying attention.
You know, I mean, maybe youweren't paying attention hard

(02:31:21):
enough.
I guess you know.
But people are starting, to towhat degree I don't even know
because there's research of ofhardcore magas that still
subscribe to Donald Trump andstill think they're giving him
time, it's going to work out,everything's going to.
We.
We are in pain, we we are, wehave cancer and we have to go

(02:31:45):
through the chemotherapy andthen we're going to get better.
So they look at Trump as thechemotherapy that hurts now, but
eventually you'll get better.
And that was all laid out by byTrump and by, uh, uh, elon Musk
as well, you know.
But that's that's how we gothere, man, through, through this
social media, and it's uh,these people are operating on a

(02:32:06):
different level.
We have to get to that level.
We have to be able, and we are.
We're trying to see it.
We're talking about fifthgeneration warfare and we're
talking about mentalmanipulations, but we're still,
I think, divided into camps,even though we think we're not.
You think we're still dividedinto the teams of MAGA and the
teams of liberalism or maybewhatever economic system you

(02:32:29):
feel that serves us better.
We're still all divided intothat and these are all
discussions we should be able tohave without getting triggered
and without calling people alltypes of names or accusing them
of evil things which just tocircle back would lead to
somebody getting shot.
You know, because they legitthink these people are evil

(02:32:53):
demons.
You know people talk about NewYork like it's evil, like it's
part of the country.
You know it's part of America.
You know it's part of thecountry.
You know it's it's it's it'spart of of America.
You know it's one of thefueling engines of America.
People talk about LA the sameway, like, oh my God, I can't
live in LA, whatever.
Maybe it's, it's not foreverybody.
But to hate it to the degreethat people do, I don't

(02:33:13):
understand.
You know.
You know so it's.
It's what.
California is the fourthbiggest economy in the world.
It provides for a lot that wehave here in the United States.
But that's where we are To thepoint that I used to rule out.
When people used to talk about acivil war, I would rule that
out and secession.

(02:33:34):
I'm like no, that's not goingto happen.
These are real possibilities atthis point.
I hope it doesn't happen.
I don't know what thelikelihood of it is, but
secession, if things continuethis way, there are some states
that are going to want us to seefrom the nation and that's
going to trigger a civil war,you know.
So I don't want to see anythinglike that, you know, but it's

(02:33:58):
likely.
I don't know how likely it is,but at least I can see it
happening.

Speaker 2 (02:34:04):
I definitely think states need to take a more of an
autonomous role in the future.
That's the only way thatLiberty really has a chance to
exist.
Is smaller, more localized.
It just has to that.
Thomas Jefferson recognized itthe larger the state, the
smaller the citizen.
So I think that could be maybea positive trend.

(02:34:25):
Hopefully it doesn't lead to,you know, a kinetic civil war or
something like that.
I would.
I'd like to see states makemore of their own decisions
outside the federal government,which was the original intent of
the founders and, you know,pre-civil war certainly.
I want to ask you both aquestion, just kind of shift
gears a little bit.
But back to the geopolitics ofthe Israeli strike on Iran,

(02:34:51):
trying to figure out why thiswas the timeline was moved to
this or why it was so hurried.
It was so hurried.
The only thing I can think ofis that you know, and I've
mentioned this before in thelast, I think you know, in the
last America Unplugged that wedid about a month ago that I was
on and I said the issue withpolitics is it looks permanent

(02:35:13):
but it never is.
And you know, I don't know, don,I want to ask you do you think
just knowing what you know abouthistory, does it look pretty
likely that we're going to havesome sort of democratic sweep in
2026, which would set us up for, you know, just impeachment
hearings and investigate allthat stuff that happened, you

(02:35:34):
know, post 2018?
Last time with the first Trumpadministration, but maybe even
worse this time, with the firstTrump administration, but maybe
even worse this time.
If that's the case, is that whythis war got moved up that
they're just trying to do like ahurry-up offense?
I mean, are you following mylogic here when I'm trying to
see Like I'm wondering why allthis has to happen now.

Speaker 4 (02:35:57):
Yeah well, I think that's typically what happens.
And then, certainly with allthe craziness that's going on,
certainly, with all thecraziness that's going on, the
people that the Democratscertainly ought to be fired up
to vote for Democrats in theoff-year elections.
But you know, as Billy wasmentioning about the fifth stage
, what do you call it?

Speaker 3 (02:36:17):
Fifth generation warfare.

Speaker 4 (02:36:18):
Fifth generation warfare.
That makes sense.
I don't know what the hell itis, but it makes sense.
You talk about that shooter guy.
I mean all the serps like you.
Go back to the guy that shotthe CEO of the health care
company.
That was very cut and dry.
This guy was upset about it andhe shot him.
So I mean, I don't know whetherit's more real or fake or
anything else, but there was amotive and there wasn't anything

(02:36:39):
beyond that.
Now you have with this guy heshot a democratic lawmakers that
had crossed over and votedagainst healthcare for illegal
aliens.
So I don't.
So they're sending that message.
Well, it looks like a cut anddry method.
He was pissed off about thatbecause he doesn't want to get

(02:37:01):
illegals to get through healthcare.
That seemed to be the motive.
But then apparently he's got aneighbor talking about he
listens to Infowars.
He certainly wanted to get thatmindset from Infowars and he's
got no King's thing.
So it was very Lee HarveyOswald like, because you know,
if you go back and look at that,oswald had, you know,
fingerprints.
He was a Marxist, he defectedto Russia supposedly, but he

(02:37:23):
associated with the anti CastroCubans and he obviously was an
intelligence asset.
So that's the kind of things wecall fifth generation warfare.
I don't know, but it's againstto muddy up the waters.
And you mentioned Jared LeeLoeffner Tony, the guy that
supposedly shot Gabby Yiperts,and again, that's all over the
place.
You don't know what that guy was, and so what is the motive here

(02:37:43):
?
So what is the?
You know, what are they goingto do in terms of Democrats and
Republicans?
I would think it's in theirbest interest to have Democrats
take both houses, and that mighthappen anyhow, naturally, I
don't know.
But because they, you know,they want, and it's in our
interest too, because most ofthe time we want to have a split

(02:38:04):
between the presidency andCongress and ideally a split
between both houses, because wedon't want things to get done,
because 99% of the time they dosomething, it's going to make
things worse.
So the best we can hope for isgridlock, which is a hell of a
commentary on our politicalsystem.
But you can see, this is playingout like the first Trump

(02:38:24):
administration.
The first Trump administration,he had both houses in Congress
for the first two years as well,and he got nothing done.
Both houses.
Here he's getting nothing done,so once and then it'll be
tailor-made.
Once he gets in, the Democratscome back, just like last time.
Well, what do you expect him todo?
The Democrats run Congress.
What can you do?

(02:38:44):
Couldn't get past thoseDemocrats.
And especially if they startimpeaching him again, which I
mean if they impeach him on thenonsense they did the first time
, I'm sure they can findsomething you know, at least you
know more substantial than thatthey can try to, you know,
impeach him on.
So I see they can try to, youknow, impeach him on.
So I, I I see that probably have, but I don't make predictions.

(02:39:05):
I don't like I I still I'mholding out hope that we're not
gonna, that this is gonna beanother head fake and more fear
porn for world war three,because that's been hanging over
our heads now for as long aswe've been doing an american
plug, because we talked about italmost every show.
How many years is that?
So I, I think that this lookslike it, but I really think, as
I was saying to tony earlier, II think that, um, or saying the

(02:39:27):
audience earlier because wecouldn't talk as my echo, but I
it looks like.
However, however real this is,it looks like iran.
It's not like those othercountries, and I said I have a
you know, a connection therebecause my, my brother-in-law is
an Iranian.
I've met tons of Iranians overthe years.
My sister lived in Tehran formany years and I know the people

(02:39:49):
and I can tell you that whole,and I've known a lot of Afghanis
too.
You wonder why we in Russiacouldn't win in Afghanistan.
You have to meet the people.
This is the ultimate macho,these guys.
That's why you see thePalestinian kids throwing rocks
at tanks.
They will do that.
So if they really want to dothis, they're going to have to

(02:40:12):
wipe out every one of thosepeople.
Maybe they want to do that, butyou're going to have to do that
because you're not going to getthem to surrender.
And that's why I think you knowyou remember Saddam Hussein.
I remember he said bring it on,it's the mother of all wars, or
something.
It was ridiculous.
He really had no defense at all.
It was a joke, but that was themindset.
That's the mindset of thepeople, and the Iranians

(02:40:33):
especially.
And they rightfully have areason because, again, iran's
never done anything other thanthe hostage situation, which can
be tied to the politics of thetime, because we screwed around
in Iran, going back to Mossadeghwhen the CIA overthrew him in
1954.
We installed the puppet, theShah for the 1960s, who was one

(02:40:55):
of our friendly dictators.
We've been involved there.
And then they saw and I cantell you from my sister sister
lived in Iran.
I don't know where thereligious fundamentalists were,
but they didn't exist then.
They had no power at all.
Iran was very Americanized inthe 1960s.
You can see pictures of bikinisand everything and I know my
sister lived.

(02:41:15):
They had a lot of Americansliving there when the
fundamentalists took over.
I don't know where this came out, but now they have a different
mindset and it's obviously anasthma to the israelis and they
seem to be israel's biggestenemy.
So I don't know what happened,but I you know.
I'm sorry, you know.
I'll talk about this as long asI can because we actually do go

(02:41:36):
to war and we go on the warside of iraq.
I mean um, israel.
We would obviously do.
We may not be able to talkabout this Because we're at war.
What are you talking about?
So I'm going to get it outwhile I can.
But this is absolutelyridiculous when you can have a
country bomb someone else in themiddle of peace talks and then

(02:41:58):
claim they're the victim.
Pray for Israel.
What are you talking?
about I mean, does Iran not havethe right to defend itself?
So I have no problem with themfighting back.
And you know I can't say Idon't want to see anybody die.
But you know there's a lot ofpeople over there in that part
of the world.

(02:42:19):
If I had been bombed and I'dseen a thing like that, I would
have every reason to applaud ifthey got their, you know, if
they got their gestures,desserts, and so it'll be
interesting to see.
But if I was around, I'll putthat out there to any Iranians
that have any influence overthere.
If, to whatever degree, trump'spersonality is real, he
obviously has this ego that Ithink is most enacted, whatever

(02:42:40):
he has.
I would try to play on that ifI was the Iranians and I would
try to put something out there.
Hey, you know, I know you'rethe first guy to be able to
stand up to Israel Trump.
No one else could do it, butyou you can stand up to him.
You're not going to let thatNetanyahu push you around.
You're not going to be a puppetfor these guys.
I know they can't do that toTrump because he's too powerful.
Maybe it won't work, I don'tknow.

(02:43:02):
I would try it, I don't know.
Nothing else would work.

Speaker 2 (02:43:05):
You know one second real quick.
But I want to ask Don,something about the 1917.
That's the Espionage Act, right, woodrow Wilson, don, didn't
they in prison?
Was it Eugene Debs that went toprison?
Yes, speaking of World War I,so that's yeah, there's a
precedence, for if you'reanti-war, especially if it's

(02:43:26):
bipartisan, you run the risk ofbeing silenced.
But anyway, that's why I wantedto, before I lost that train of
thought.
Go ahead, billy.

Speaker 3 (02:43:33):
No, I just I think that Don is correct.
I think that Iran should take astrategy like that Don't be so
open about it, but definitelybecause I think that's what's
happening right now anyway, withsomebody like like, uh, a
Stephen Miller, you know um, ora Steve Bannon, you know, they

(02:43:58):
will um, stroke this guy's egoand they're able to manipulate
him as a result of that.
You know, that's really as easyas it was, and I remember
telling Tony I don't know if youremember this months ago.
I'm like Tony, I think theyfigured this out.
I think they got this guytotally controlled and it's not
even the way we would think.

(02:44:19):
I think they just stroke hisego for a little bit and then
he's good with just whatever.
So I I I understand that if Iwas the Iranians, I would take
that, that position also.
Yes, you can do it.
There's no one else that can doit, only you.
You were sent by God.
You were sent by God to changethis, mr Trump, and I love your

(02:44:42):
shoes.
You know just God to changethis, mr Trump and I love your
shoes.
You know just throwingeverything in the kitchen sink
and I think it would work.
I really do Well, at least to adegree.
It would work until until, youknow, somebody got got their
claws in from his presentadministration.
But the initial question tonewas what do you think is going
to happen?
Like, why are they?

(02:45:02):
Are they doing this so quickly?
Why are they acceleratingthings?
Because you know 2026, 2027 iscoming up in 2026, elections?
Like, like you know, sometimesI'm trying to not listen as much
because I value my eardrums,but I listen to Steve Bannon

(02:45:23):
from time to time and he's beentalking about this from almost
the beginning of theadministration.
He's like 2026 is going to comearound and we are going to lose
.
He said we are going to lose,so we need to get everything out
now.
We have two years.
We have two years before theDemocrats take the House and

(02:45:47):
maybe the Senate.
This is his words, this is whathe's saying.
So we need to get everythingout as soon as possible.
Pedal to the metal.
And he also thinks that they'regoing to attempt to impeach
Donald Trump, which I am 100%for.
I would like impeachment andremoval of that maniac.

(02:46:09):
He is a maniac.
If we're going to slow thisdown, right we.
I.
Tony mentions it all the timeon America Unplugged and Don
just mentioned it today,mentioned it today we need some
friction, we need some gridlock,we need it.
And if we're going to do that,we got to get these Democrats

(02:46:29):
back in power in some capacity.
I know a lot of MAGA peoplesubscribe to the
authoritarianism that's going onright now?
I certainly don't.
I know an authoritarian when Isee one and I know when our
liberties are being yanked fromus when I see it.
So I don't want that.

(02:46:50):
I don't want that.
We need gridlock and we need itnow.
So I'm fully for it, I'm fullyfor an impeachment, I'm fully
for a removal, I'm fully for theDemocrats taking over the House
and the Senate.
And what is that going to resultin?
Is it going to result in any ofthe things that you want to get
done?
Probably not, but it will slowdown this inevitable rolling

(02:47:13):
down this, this hill, to the endof the United States.
And I'd like to avoid that.
I'd like to avoid World War,war three, which looks more and
more likely under this bigorange buffoon.
You know, I I'd like to stopthat.
Somehow.
He wanted, he wants putin tomediate between, between israel

(02:47:34):
and iran.
I'm like what is this guy?
I'm like at some point wereally need to start talking
about the uh.
His mental stability, I hismental stability.
I'm like this this guy just is,is fighting a war already and
you want him to mediate.
Like what happened to you?
I thought he was the ultimatedeal deal maker that's going to
solve everything.
Like I really wish Donald Trumpwas the president of the United
States at this point, becausethis war in Israel and Iran

(02:47:58):
certainly wouldn't be happening.
I tweeted that out the otherday.
I'm like if he was president,that wouldn't be happening.
Clearly he is president and itis happening.
He is a liar, he is a con manand I know saying these things,
like putting them out there, isnot going to change anything.
It'll just cause people thatare down with MAGA to double

(02:48:20):
down, triple down, quadrupledown, because that's the way the
operation was meant to takeplace.
That's the way it's meant toproceed.
You, once you attack this guy,you take it as a personal attack
on yourself.
You're like oh, you'reattacking Trump, you're
attacking me.
I remember I saw Kid Rock whenTrump got shot.
He came out and made a video.

(02:48:40):
He's like you're effing withTrump, you're effing with me and
I'm like what does that have todo?
What is he going to like, whatare you going to do?
Besides, dress up and play KidRock?
Besides, dress up and play badmusic?
Like, what are you going to do?
You know, meanwhile, kid Rock'srestaurant got shut down because
he had nothing, but hisrestaurant got shut down because

(02:49:01):
he had nothing.
But his restaurant got shutdown because he had nothing but
illegal aliens, uh, working inthe back, and they wouldn't shut
up, show up to work becausethey thought they were going to
get, uh, uh arrested, so hisrestaurant had to shut down for
a couple of days.
I'm going to talk about thehypocrisy there.
Um, trump is still employingillegal immigrants.
Apparently, uh, he was usingthem the other day for something
like.

(02:49:21):
It's just hypocrisy uponhypocrisy upon hypocrisy.
So, yeah, like in 2026, I don'tknow what the likelihood is.
I thought these things were nobrainers, you know, I guess not.
It's very, a very differentAmerica than I thought I lived
in.
So I don't know if that'llactually happen in 2026, meaning
the Democrats will take backpower, but they're actively

(02:49:44):
planning for it, you know?
And if you guys want an insidelook on what's going on in MAGA,
you want to be three, four orfive months ahead.
Tune in to Steve Bannon.
He's a horrible talk show host,but he's a brilliant man.
He's an evil man maybe, buthe's a brilliant man and he
strategizes all of this stuff.

(02:50:04):
And that's the main reason Iknow what's going to happen with
MAGA two months ahead isbecause he's saying he's just
saying, he's openly saying it.
You guys, anybody that used tolisten to InfoWars they were
like oh well, I'm not, I'm not,I'm not a genius, right, I'm not
, I don't have a crystal ball.
These documents are open,they're out in the open, they're
all out.
There is what he used to say.
Well, it's the same deal here.

(02:50:31):
Steve Bannon is openly sayingwhat's going to happen and he's
been talking about 2026 for sometime and he seems to think that
there is a big possibility thatthe Democrats are going to take
over and they're going to tryto impeach Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (02:50:55):
Well, I mean, that's what?
I would just think that rightoff the bat.
That's just for me, juststudying history and politics,
which I'm not even it's hard.
Or drug prices or regulation orsome sort of like.
Hey, let's make sure that thefree market works, or semblance
of not a free market anymore.
But that's the only time youget gridlock.
When you get like the skids aregreased is you get warfare.

(02:51:16):
Welfare state Both partiesagree.
Both parties are puppets forthe technocracy.
Welfare state both partiesagree both parties are puppets
for the technocracy.
So I mean, nothing really stopsthe technocratic push in
different form, whether it'scbdc or through some back or
stable coin thing, it's the samedeal.
It's the same.
To me it's the same people, uh,doing the same thing, doing the

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same dance but you mentionedsomething earlier which uh trump
wants to put putin in charge ofthe negotiations for iran and
israel.
I just saw, before we went live, I just saw a story about uh
zelinski saying how iran wassuch a threat you know, so he's
obviously he's taking his ordersfor for israel.
So that would be interesting ifwe could get Zelensky to

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negotiate with Putin over thefate of.
Iran.
Maybe we could do that.
Miracles do happen.

Speaker 3 (02:52:07):
Maybe we'll get some peace.
Finally.
If we get some peace, I'm allfor it.
Let them do it, let them takecredit for it.
I'll be very happy with it.
But I think, tony, I thinkultimately you're right.
I think, tony, like, I thinkultimately you're right, but
things have devolved in a waywhere we need gridlock to stop

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things like having you know,posse commentatus just like
ignored right or like habeascorpus, like this is on a level
that I haven't seen in mylifetime.
You know, and and everythinggoes in cycles.
We'll survive it, you know,we'll survive this.
Everything goes in cycles.
I, I.
But we won't be a superpoweranymore.

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It's debate, it's debatablewhether or not we're a
superpower.
Now you know it's, it's justnot going to happen.
But besides that, the people ofthe United States are under real
danger here, and I want tostress here, there's a lot of
racial profiling going onbecause of these deportations

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and these are American citizenswhich I said was going to happen
on America, unplugged, monthsago.
It's happening, and I mentionedthis the last time I was on
with Travis If you have to pushback just for selfish reasons,
go ahead and do it.
Go ahead and do it.
You may not care what happensto other people, but maybe you

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care what happens to you.
So push back on this stuff,because eventually it's going to
knock on your door.
It's going to.
This is the lawlessness, what'sgoing on here.
So we do need, we do need somegridlock.
We need some people to pushback on this, and I would urge
everybody to participate in theprocess.

(02:54:04):
I haven't voted for the majorityof my life, you guys know I
voted for Ron Paul.
That's the only time I voted.
I'm going to go out and votefor every single thing I can
here and I'm not voting MAGA.
Notice, I didn't say Republican, I'm not voting MAGA at all at
all.
I will vote for a piece ofdriftwood before I vote for MAGA

(02:54:29):
, and that's in the bestinterest of every American.
At this point, what they'redoing to day-to-day people on
the street innocent peoplePutting on masks, throwing them
in the back of vans uh, that'snot a good look for anyone, uh,
so I would urge people to try todo something about that before
it knocks on your door, becauseit inevitably will I.

Speaker 2 (02:54:52):
I regret now that I have to return all of the uh
birthday presents I got you thisyear.

Speaker 3 (02:54:57):
I didn't realize you were so anti-maga, billy oh damn
, but if you, if you got me apair, if you got me a pair of
the MAGA sneakers, I'll takethose and the MAGA guitar, I
want one.

Speaker 2 (02:55:08):
So I'll take those if you did that.
It's what's going to be hard toreturn.
It's the shipping on that giantTrump Idol from the CPAC.
I got that one for you.

Speaker 3 (02:55:18):
I want that too.
It's the golden.
Send that to me.
Yes, I got that one for you.

Speaker 2 (02:55:23):
I want that too.
It's the golden.
Hey Don, do you have to go?
I?

Speaker 4 (02:55:25):
know that you yeah, I got to run a few minutes.
I appreciate it.
Good talking to you guys.
Donald Jeffries on subsoccom, Iprotest the only place in the
chat.
I appreciate it.
It was great being with youguys.

Speaker 2 (02:55:35):
Thank you, Don.

Speaker 4 (02:55:37):
Thank you, take care.

Speaker 3 (02:55:39):
You know what I really want, Tony, Since you
have the means.
I know you do.
So what I really want is theArk of the Covenant that he has.

Speaker 2 (02:55:47):
Why do I have the means for the Ark of the
Covenant?

Speaker 3 (02:55:50):
I don't know.
You go off on missions all thetime.
I'm fully aware of this.
I know all the artifacts youhave stored over there in Wise
Wolf.
Listen, all I want is it's areplica.
It's not even the real one.

Speaker 2 (02:56:08):
Just take it from him and give it to me.
I'd love for you to do it.
Well, I would love to.
I'd like to take, if I couldget, the actual Ark of the
Covenant, take it to Congressand then me and you would just
have like ready blindfolds andwe just open it and everybody
look at it know, and it's likethe end of the raiders.
Don't open your eyes, don't openall that you know.
Yeah, okay, we'll just uh goback to back against the post.

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I'm like don't look directly atit right, right, right.

Speaker 3 (02:56:33):
We already have the heads up.
You know um off topic, I meanon the topic we're talking about
now.
I think about that often.
I'm obsessed with the ark ofthe covenant.
One of these days I want to goto Ethiopia because they claim
they have it there and I knowthey have something.

Speaker 2 (02:56:48):
I just don't know if it's.
I've heard about it.
It's called the Sign and theSeal.

Speaker 3 (02:56:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm familiar.
It's in.
I think I'm going to pronouncethis wrong, but I think it's
Atum or awesome, right?
Uh, ethiopia, where they haveit.
Um, and the guy that's in,there's one guy that's dedicated
to to sitting with the ark andprotecting the ark.
That's it.
He never leaves.

(02:57:11):
Uh, and they did an interviewwith him once.
In his eyes he has somethingwrong with his eyes and he says
it's the ark.
He said it was a thing of fire,um, and that's what did damage
to his eyes.

Speaker 2 (02:57:22):
Yeah, that's the kind of see.
That's what we need.
An infinite fringe about thearc.
You need to do a series on it.
You got to get back.
You got to get back to what'sinteresting.

Speaker 3 (02:57:32):
That's a great idea, actually, tony, do it with me.
Yeah, do it with me.

Speaker 2 (02:57:43):
I have some pair of truth that I want to do, but all
history stuff I'm going to dothe Fourth Reich and some of the
stuff in Operation Paperclip.
I've got a great interview ongold coming up.
We only got two minutes leftand I want to close right.
Tell people where they can findyou.

Speaker 3 (02:57:54):
Billy, I know we're just kidding, you know, if you
so choose, brv 1776, that's theBavarian Illuminati, not
anything related to MAGA guys.
Ok, so BRV 1776 at gmailcom.
Hit me up there.
American Unplugged, 12 pmEastern every Saturday and my

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show on Ground Zero Plus.
We should talk about that tonebecause you could do.
You could do a paratrooperbefore me if you want, since you
typically do that anyway, butwe could do it back to back.
You know I've been operatingwithout a name over there at
ground zero plus 7.
Pm on Sundays.
I'm going to call it gorillaunderground Shouts to my boy

(02:58:37):
twisted.
That's, that's what I'm, that'swhat I'm going to call it.
So that's 7 pm on Sunday.
He's over there on Ground ZeroPlus and on Tony's X.
Tony's X.
He's nice enough to let mestream there.
So I appreciate it.
Thank you, buddy.
That's it, man.
That's all I got.

Speaker 2 (02:58:57):
I appreciate you, I appreciate the audience and
thanks for bearing with usthrough technical difficulties.
We ended up having 1,228 peoplewatching live, so that's fine.
I'll be back tomorrow.
I've got Charlie Robinson onOctopus of Global Control, the
controlled demolition of theAmerican empire.
Myself we'll get into someparapolitics and precious metals
.
Thank you, Billy.
I'm going to see if I can playthe outro Hold on a second.

Speaker 3 (02:59:30):
We're going to see if I can play the outro.

Speaker 1 (02:59:32):
Hold on a second.
We're going to see if we can dothis.
I'll have to take us offline tomake it work.
Right, one second, let me seeif I can make this work.

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