The David Knight Show 6-17-25

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In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act.
It's the David Knight Show.

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Speaker 4 (03:16):
Well, the clock has struck 13 once again and it is
Tuesday, the 17th of June, yearof our Lord, 2025.
I'm Tony Arterburn, filling infor the greatth of June Year of
Our Lord 2025.
I'm Tony Arterburn filling infor the great David Knight and
of course now Travis Knight.
I'm joined by my co-pilot andco-host, beans the Brave.
If you don't know, that's my 12and a half pound.

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I'd say it's 12 and a half.
She's probably just a littlebit heavier now because of
treats, my Chihuahua from themean streets of San Antonio here
to make sure that we continuegood vibes.
There's no woodland creaturesin this office or studio, no
intruders, we'll be safe fromthat.
Well, headlines make my jobeasy.

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Not that I enjoy the dystopia orthe upside down or the
quickening or whatever you wantto call it, the soon-to-be
singularity of neoconservative,luciferian ideology converging
at once.
I remember something that thephilosopher Plato wrote that

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only the dead had seen the endof war, and that sticks with me.
Because you'd like to push backagainst that.
You'd like to think that peoplelearned lessons, but the only
lesson we learned from historyis that we do not learn from
history.
So I get to watch all of thisstuff happen again.
I remember when I was a kid Iwatched Oliver Stone's Platoon.

(04:41):
It was around 1987, so I thinkI was about seven years old and
I watched Platoon.
That's for a young kid.
That's not a great movie, butanyway, I watched it and I
remember the end scene withCharlie Sheen, and there's that
monologue going over the lastcredits about how they can never
let this happen again to telltheir story.

(05:03):
Well, it happened again andthen it's going to happen again
and it looks like it's justcontinuing this awful, satanic
cycle of war.
But let's pray that it doesn't.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I like to like to think thatthere's been progress made on
the anti-war front and, you know, certainly 2016 was a big

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turnout for those who wantedAmerica first.
Remember that We've lost ourway.
Maga kind of absorbed Americafirst and like destroyed the
essence of it.
It took what I believed in, andthis is something.
When I ran for Congress, I was,you know, the candidate that
was like Ron Paul or PatBuchanan.
I believed in these principlesand that cost me dearly, by the

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way.
I mean the establishment hatedthat.
I mean you talk about tradepolicies or bringing the troops
home.
It's like showing a crucifix toa vampire.
They hated it.
And I was on the radio station.
The radio station hated it, soit wasn't very popular.
The radio station hated it, soit wasn't very popular.
But I think 2016, that reallyshowed me that there was a lot
of people out there that agreedwith me, and maybe they couldn't

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intellectualize it, but that'sin their heart and their gut.
They knew that something waswrong with living in the
American empire not the Americanrepublic.
But something happened.
And then the way that politicsgets hijacks good things
sometimes, like you, go back tothe 19th century.
We had the populist party.
A lot of people don't rememberthat.

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We had a third party that wasactually very powerful and, um,
it got a lot of things done.
It was trending towardsbreaking up the duopoly between
the Democrats and theRepublicans and then they took
us to war in Spain.
So that was used for that, bythe way, which was to reset the
left-right paradigm, to get usback on track of infighting and

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this false choice between leftand right.
And you know, looking at theheadlines folks, and we'll dive
into that today.
I've got first hour.
Just be me and we'll go oversome headlines together and a
couple of articles that I pickedout.
Second hour I've got CharlieRobinson, host of
Macroaggressions, one of my goodfriends.
He authored a book called theOctopus of Global Control.

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He also the ControlledDemolition of the American
Empire many other things.
He's got a great podcast andhe's going to come on.
I've enjoyed his Twitter accountthe last couple of days.
He's on fire.
I want to talk to him aboutthis stuff, but that's just
what's going to dominate theshow today.
Unfortunately, I've got alittle bit of you know, you can
look at warfare and then gettingoutside of the fiat system,

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right?
These are the two things thatare in my wheelhouse and I'm
going to do my best to makesense of it all for you.
All right, let's go to thefirst article.
What should we do?
Let's go to the headlines atdrudge and then I'll take you
from there.
We'll go to um.
A couple of articles that breakdown what's happening.

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Caitlin johnson wrote a greatarticle up on lou rockwellcom.
I definitely want to cover inthis hour.
In the third hour, by the way,um, I would like to do with the
chat because we're.
Unfortunately I wasn't able toget the kick stream up today
because I needed another sign incode and I didn't want to
bother Travis at like six 30 inthe morning.

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But next time, my host, Ipromise I'll have.
I have almost everything elseup.
Next time, my host, I'll havethat up.
But on the third hour I'd liketo have an Ask Me Anything.
I mean, ask me stuff that's inyou know to talk about on the
show.
Ask me anything within therealm of you know geopolitics,

(08:54):
history, philosophy, whateverand if it's you know, try to
make it relevant to what isgoing on today.
If you can do that, we'll havea comment section.
I'll do that in the third hour.
Maybe Charlie will stay on fora little while, but in the third
hour, and we can.
We can cover that in the third.
So be ready in the third hour.
Hit the comments and if you want, I'm streaming over on my

(09:15):
youtube at tony arterburn if youwant it, because I'll see those
comments right here in thestream yard studio.
So if you want to hit at AtTony Arterburn on YouTube, you
can join there and comment aswell.
But I'll check the rumble forDavid.
Let's throw the headlines up.
Let's see what the intelligenceagencies Want me to talk about.

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I do this Because of what SunTzu admonished To know your
enemy, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm not a fan of Drudge.
I do this because of what SunTzu admonished to know your
enemy, ladies and gentlemen, I'mnot a fan of drudge, but it's
got a nice radiation symbol anda nuclear biological in the
left-hand corner.
Iran could resort tounconventional means of

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retaliation.
Nice headline to throw outthere.
They're just leaving it there,even though they don throw out
there, they're just leaving itthere, even though they don't
have a nuclear weapon.
Just leaving it there.
Idf underestimated militarystrength.
Oh, it's kind of like we did inIraq War II, where Donald
Rumsfeld thought that you couldhold the country with 50,000

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troops.
Bunker-busting missiles, shakefaith and safety.
There's also a report of acollision of fire in the Strait
of Hormuz.
That's unrelated to this, butjust happened to be on the same
day that tensions are peaking.
Okay, and of course they throwaround just much like lindsey

(10:47):
graham um resident stooge forsatan, uh, in the us senate.
Much like lindsey graham justthrows out, you know,
assassinating world leaders thathold nuclear weapons, like he
did this I mean, I know we haveshort memories in the country,
but do you like it wasn't thatlong ago we had Lindsey Graham

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calling for the assassination ofPresident Putin.
Right of Russia.

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They're psychotic and Netanyahu same thing with the
Ayatollah, just throwing thatout there.
You know, just world leaders.
You know, inside their ownnations, you aren't.
You aren't safe from the warmachine that's been set up
through the United States empire.
Set up through the UnitedStates empire.

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This is funny.
Yesterday I saw the SebastianGorka.
You know, sebastian, he's justlet's see.
What is he?
What would you define him as?
An establishment shill, a fauxintellectual?
I don't want it.
It's his David shows.
I don't want to dress SebastianWalker down too much, but he's

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exhausting and he has all theseideas that failed, gods, that
failed.
And he throws up this.
And he's such a sycophant too.
He throws up a post yesterdayon Instagram and I'm just doing
this by memory.
He throws up this post and hesays and I'm just doing this by
memory he throws up this postand he says President Trump has

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spoken and it has somethingabout it.
Kooky Tucker Carlson, this isfrom Trump, kooky Tucker Carlson
.
Somebody tell Kooky TuckerCarlson that Iran cannot possess
a nuclear weapon.
So this is what this nextheadline Tucker Carlson,
conflict, end of Trump'spresidency, according to this is
the headline, by the way.
So day five IDF drones huntover Tehran.

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Iran prepares largest strike.
G7 is split.
Trump leaves the summit and theyask the question is the USA
officially going to join the war?
Well, it's hard not to see howwe wouldn't you hope that some

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sort of rationality prevails.
It reminds me of the 13 Daysmovie and Kevin Costner plays
Kennedy's aide and he just kindof breaks down.
He says you know, maybe the sunwill come up tomorrow and the
goodwill will prevail, the willof good men.

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I hope that's the case.
All right, let's X out of this.
And I want to take you to kindof the fallout of what happened
after these strikes and thetension Trump leaving the G7
summit.
This kind of rhetoric I don'tknow.

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I mean, if you study historyit's not necessarily outside of
the realm of precedence, asDavid calls President Trump
Calls President Trump.
But there was this offhandremark that Reagan had when he

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was warming up for a radio-freeAmerica.
Whatever he was doing, it wasone of the radio broadcasts that
the president does and hedidn't know he was being
recorded.
He was just warming up andthought he was joking a little
bit and said that he's outlawedRussia.
You can find the audio clips.
I've outlaw and I'm sending.
The bombers are on their way.

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It's just a joke.
Um, uh, but you know you fastforward to our time.
And then you know even reagan,he only he called the soviet
union an evil empire, but onlycalled it that one time, and
that was uh prior to gorbachev.
He never said that again.
Of course, by the end of the80s he's walking, you know uh,
shoulder to shoulder withgorbachev and red square patting

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him on the back.
Um, epical moments, you know,and that was a.
The end of that decade wasreally staggering for peace and
there's a lot of hope.
You know there's things thatcould happen at the end, of
course, you know that knowthat's all history and we can
certainly go over that and whatwas lost, but this kind of
rhetoric.
You can decide for yourselfwhat this means.

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This is Trump.
Everyone should immediatelyevacuate Tehran.
The apparent threat comes amidindications that the US may
begin bombing Iran directly, andthis is by Dave DeCamp over at

(17:36):
Antiwarcom.
President Trump on Mondayappeared to threaten Iran,
writing on his true socialaccount that Iran should have
signed a deal and calling forthe immediate evacuation of
Iranian capital of Tehran, acity of about 10 million people.
Iran should have signed thedeal.
I told them to sign.
What a shame, A waste of humanlife.
Simply stated, Iran cannot havea nuclear weapon.

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I said it over and over againEveryone should immediately
evacuate Tehran.
Said it over and over againeveryone should immediately
evacuate Tehran.

Speaker 10 (18:07):
Well, you know in an age of nuclear weapons and
being the foremost.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
I don't know what you want to call us anymore.
We're used to be, especiallyafter the end of the Cold War,
we were the lone superpower.
Maybe we're a stupor power now,something like that.
We used to be the greatestcreditor nation.
We used to be a productivenation.
Now we're the greatest debtorand we import everything
Consumptive.
Consumptive reminds me of theold westerners.

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He's got consumption.
Yeah, he's sick.
He made the threat whileattending the g7 summit in
canada.
White house press secretarycarolyn levite said after
trump's post that the presidentwould be leaving the summit
because of what's going on inthe middle east.
It's kind of interesting.

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Why, why, why you can doeverything from there.
What do you need to do?
That's interesting.
What's going on in the MiddleEast?

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He's on Fox News andeverybody's kind of with bated
breath Like when are we going tohit?
There's a certain demographicand I've learned this and being
in so-called conservative talkradio there's a certain
demographic of people that theytarget with the Fox News
headlines and they just love war.
They love, like, the action ofit.
They want to have embeddedreporters, you know.

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They want to see Oliver Northwith the camera behind a bunch
of Marines blowing up stuff.
They like that.
They like the bombs falling.
They love to call into shows.
I know this, by the way.
I mean I know this firsthandbecause I would follow Mark
Levin.
My show followed Mark Levin.
It's a station that no longerexists in San Antonio, but I
would go there every evening andI would have the same people

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listening, but I would throw onthe phone lines.
I open up with something likethis, talking about the neocon.
They didn't understand.
They're like when are you goingto talk about bombing Iran
Seriously?
And that's what.
That's what they called inabout.
They're very animated by it.
And Pete Hegseth he really, youknow highlights that US

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officials have denied rumorsthat the US began striking Iran
and have said that the USremains in a defensive posture
in the Middle East.
Trump's post came afterSecretary of Defense Pete
Hegseth said that he ordered thedeployment of additional US
capabilities to the Middle East.

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Us officials confirmed that amassive deployment tanker
aircraft was related to theIsrael-Iran war.
The first casualty of war isthe truth.
How did this even start?
Well, I mean, if you'rewatching fox news, then you

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don't know.
Um, you have caitlin jenner youknow, bruce or whatever, he's
having a sipping wine in abunker, uh, praising Trump and
Netanyahu and Israel.
It's kind of the clown worldthing that we're in now, because
nobody really knows like wellwe're going to get these
terrorists.

(21:33):
I'm like Israel bombed Iran.
Of course you know, soon, ifthis kicks off and accelerates
enough, you won't even hear frompeople like me, I won't even be
able to broadcast because ofthe 1917 Espionage Act.
Woodrow Wilson threw people injail because they criticized
World War I, a great war, youknow, world War I, one of those

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wars that really helped us, ifyou can ever find anybody who
can even explain it to you,because you can't, I promise.
I mean they'll try, but theyjust just can't.
It's just a bloodletting, itwas a ritualistic bankers war.
Sources familiar with thematter have told antiwarcom
editorial director scott hortonthat the trump administration is

(22:19):
poised to enter israel'saggressive war against iran
directly by launching airstrikeswhich will almost certainly
provoke attacks on US bases inthe region.
Which is, yeah, if you do X,then Y will happen.
That you know, I think, causeand effect.
And they know that, by the way,1,000%.

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They know that, by the way,1000%.
They know that, which would beescalation which will take a lot
of pressure.
You know war hides a lot.
You can hide a lot of things inwar.
You can hide the fact thatyou've neglected your own people
, your infrastructure,infrastructure.
You know America's decaying andhas.
You know you can't drink thewater in a lot of these places.

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Or the rail lines are, you know, 80 years behind.
Or the airports are broken downand the highways are always
being worked on.
And you know veterans are.
You know this massive amount ofveteran homelessness.

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Kids going to sleep hungry at night.
You have an entire generationof young men have given up in
areas like the Rust Belt thatare on drugs and other things
because we pawned America's soul.
We don't have living wage jobs,we just have a Mitt
Romney-style venture vulturecapitalist economy.

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Israel started bombing Iran onFriday, two days before the US
and Iran were due to holdanother round of nuclear
negotiations.
Trump had been demanding Iraneliminate its nuclear weapons
program, which was a non-starterfor Tehran.

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Despite the apparent impasse,iran was set to present a
counterproposal to the US, butthe talks were canceled after
Israel launched its war.
Proposal to the US, but thetalks were canceled after Israel
launched its war.
Yeah, that's a great line.
It launched its war.
This is Israel's war.
They started it.
They should finish it and weshould let them do that.

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We've been fighting for themfor decades.
It's funny.
You know the Israeli lobbypushed real hard to get us into
both Iraq wars.
That got Pat Buchanan introuble.
You know he said famously onthe McLaughlin Group back in the
early 90s like 1990, that theonly people that supported the
Gulf War was, I think, thecontractors in the Amen corner

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at AIPAC.
That was considered reallycontroversial.
You're not even supposed tomention AIPAC, the
American-Israeli PoliticalAction Committee.
You're not supposed to mentionthat.
Wow, you're fringe that yourecognize something.
They pushed really hard forthat.
I never saw an Israeli troop,though Not one ever Ever, but

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they definitely wanted that, youknow toppling.
It's good for them, you know,and they have a right to do that
.
They have a right to try to getwhatever happened to benefit
their nation.
So do we?
You know we don't do that.
Our leaders don't really steerour country that way.
It'd be nice, but we reallydon't look out for the interests
of the United States that way,the way that Israelis do.

(27:35):
I mean, they put themselves atleast their perceived benefit
way before others, and good onthem, and we should have the
ability to call that out and say, yeah, that's not how this
country's supposed to work, butyou'll get labeled something
else.

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Prime minister benjaminnetanyahu launched the war under
the pretext of stopping iranfrom stopping Iran from
developing a nuclear bomb.
This is 2025, right, I've beenwatching him say that since the
90s.
But it has been the consensusof the US intelligence community

(28:18):
that there was no evidenceTehran was working toward a
nuclear weapon.
Yeah, that seems to be theconsensus, because that's true
weapon yeah, that seems to bethe consensus because that's
true, it's.
It's for this fact and thewhole thing about the nuclear
deal or stopping it from gettinga bomb, can you really blame

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any country?
What's the lesson learned fromthe ir war?
Or from Libya or Syria?
What's the lesson learned?
What do we teach?
We teach if you don't have thebomb, we're going to do this to
you.
You're going to get regimechange, you're going to be

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invaded, you're going to bedefiled.
If you do have the bomb, wellthen you're North Korea.
Saddam didn't have the bomb.
As a matter of fact, theIsraelis blew up his nuclear
reactor he was working with theFrench, it was called Osirik, it
was back in the early 80s Justblew it up using American-made

(29:21):
fighter aircraft and you know wewonder like, why do they hate
us?
You have these occupiedterritories, you know, by the
Israelis and flying over anAmerican-made helicopter

(29:42):
gunships.
You know there's an associationthere, interesting.
I got some comments over on myYouTube from Jim Nike.
I hope I'm saying that right.

(30:03):
Trump has put himself in aninescapable trap.
If he backs Israel, americanblood will be spilled and MAGA
will turn on him.
If he doesn't back Israel, theZionists will turn on him.
I think the calculated bet thereand I think you've made a great

(30:26):
point.
I think the calculator risk onhis part, has got to look where
the money and the influencecomes from, and I don't think
that MAGA really, whatever thatmeans.
Now it's been so diluted.
It's kind of like the Tea Partymovement, by the way.
The Tea Party movement, by theway, the tea party movement was

(30:48):
started by ron paul.
It was started on december 16th2007, I remember, and that's
when he raised more money, Ithink, in one single day, than
any presidential candidate inhistory.
From you know, from regularpeople, from actual human beings
that you know he ran on peaceand prosperity and liberty and

(31:10):
that was a great day.
I remember it and that's whatthe Tea Party was founded on.
And then, as time went on, itbecame, as you know.
You get the Koch brothersinvolved and you got others that
use that as a because, again,principle has to be backed up by
something.
That's why you know good onthem.
Like the Catholics are verymuch, I went to a private

(31:33):
Catholic university after I wasout of the army, called the
University of Dallas, veryprestigious school.
I studied philosophy for acouple of years and I loved it.
It's a very expensive book clubbut they welcome debate on
their faith and everything elseand I thought that was good.
You can't do that really in agrassroots movement anymore
because it's hard for them todefend it.

(31:53):
So the principles get changedfrom the top.
It's very fluid and I rememberby the time I ran for Congress
it was like a lot of theprinciples that Ron Paul had
talked about got lost, becauseyou would see people, this Tea
Party movement, would be flyingan Israeli flag and I'd go now,
wait a minute, this is not.
That's not what the Tea Partymovement was for.

(32:15):
I mean that you carrying thatflag.
It also represents foreign aid.
It represents interventionism.
It intervention militarism.
I mean it.
It represents interventionism,it intervenes militarism.
I mean again, you know, likeall these things are just
bloated, everything right, theantithesis of what, and that's
just one aspect of it.
But that would happen a lot,you know.

(32:36):
And or get your governmenthands off my Medicaid stuff,
like that.
You know it just got dilutedand so I think that's what's
happened to whatever maga is,and there's a lot of great
people, I think their hearts inthe right place, um, but
unfortunately that's whatpolitics will do.
I mean it just takes I I talkedto years ago when I first

(32:58):
decided I was going to run foroffice and I talked to this uh,
lady, lady, she wasn't mucholder than me but she was been
in the game a long, long time.
It's very smart.
And she told me don't do this.
Just start like get into whatyou want to do, start a like a,
a pack or you know a nonprofit,like talk about what you want,
push the ideas, but stay out ofthis arena, cause it's just

(33:19):
where ideas go to die, and likeit is really.
She was, she was right aboutthat and I remember that lunch
she was like if you could justdo, if you could just stick to
the ideas, like stick to radio,stick to things, like push the
ideas but stay out of this thing.
And she was right, we'll see.
And that comment was from theLazarus man.

(33:42):
Thank you, lazarus man.
All right, I'm going to go tothe Rumble chat and check on
what's going on over there.
And then we got an article byCaitlin Johnston.
I may get to let me talk alittle finance.
Before we do that, I will harpon war, won't I?

(34:04):
Such an honor to be filling infor david too, and I got a text
him back at a text from himyesterday.
Um, love the audience, love youguys, let's check on rumble.
Hold on a second, get a little.

(34:29):
Whenever I click on that, Ihave my little voice coming back
to me.
Let's see trucker Chris FTW.
I followed Caitlin Johnston ontwitter before I was banned this

(34:49):
past weekend.
Well, you might have beenbanned for following her.
It's great, she's got a lot ofgreat articles.
I don't always agree with her,but I think, uh, she's
definitely a sound thinker.
Yeah, remember the Liberty.
Yes, sending our 53-year-oldaircraft carrier out to be sunk

(35:15):
by Iran Right, sunk by Iran.
We'll talk to Charlie Robinsonin the next hour.
He's got something to say aboutthat.
Let's see.
Let's see.
You guys have a lot of chatover here.
I take that for granted.
I'm building.
If you want to follow me, I'mon Rumble.

(35:37):
I'm not live right now, but I'mover on the America Unplugged
channel and I have the Arterburnradio transmission.
I do every Thursday at 11 amCentral time.
12 Eastern KWD 68 says MAGAwill support Trump until the

(35:57):
last bomb falls.
Yes, they will, whatever thatmeans to you.
Whatever, MAGA means, but it'sspace, it's the base.
He'll have outliers and I don'tthink Tucker Carlson's going to
refit back into the whatevermold.

(36:18):
I think he's kind of gone acertain way and that's a journey
for I think he.
I think he understands, if youlook at the trend of journalism,
media, whatever, it means, umto you that the old ways and the
legacy ways are gone.
The establishment, all thisstuff, traditional foreign

(36:38):
policy, all that is.
It's not the trend for thefuture.
Yeah, gardner goldsmith,goldsmith, the great Gard
Goldsmith, trump is going tomake it impossible for other
national leaders to enternegotiations with the US.
Yes, he will Always great tohear from Gard.

(37:01):
I wonder if Gard's got to behosting sometime this week.
You guys stay tuned for him.
He's got to be back here.
All right, let's talk a littlefinance.
I'll leave the Caitlin Johnstonarticle up.
I definitely want to spend sometime on it and I realized I

(37:22):
went a little long on the Trumppiece about evacuating Tehran.
We'll talk a little finance andthis is what I was going to
bring up earlier.
So the rest of the world andthe players on Wall Street, high

(37:50):
finance, which high finance andintelligence go together, folks
.
But they decided, as ofyesterday, before Trump left the
G7.
Before Trump left the G7.
Okay, so this is interestingthat they felt like the war

(38:12):
between Israel and Iran wascontained geographically between
those two nations.
Interesting because the priceof gold reflects that.
But then you have Pete Hegseth.
This is what I was going tosegue into, but I get sometimes
lost in stream of consciousness.

(38:32):
Then you get pete.
He's jumping on fox news.
We're ramping things up, we're,we're sending things over.
Why are they doing that whenthe rest of the world, it feels
like it's containedgeographically?
These are the little tells,right?
These are things that I watch.
I'm like well, the rest of theworld, you know finance.

(38:52):
Well, this looks like it'scontained, it looks like it's
proportional, and this is fromKitco.
Middle East chaos won't drivegold prices to 4,000, but this
will.
It's the Bank of America.
Gold prices to $4,000, but thiswill.
It's the Bank of America.
Gold prices have fallen backbelow $3,400 an ounce as the

(39:15):
conflict between Israel and Iranhas not seen regional
escalation, but while theprecious metal continues its
broader consolidation, commodityanalysts at Bank of America say
it still has a path to $4,000an ounce.
In its latest report, thebank's precious metals team, led
by Michael Weidner, stated thatgold retains significant upside

(39:36):
potential as investment demandhas only just begun to grow.
However, the analysts alsocautioned that the chaos in the
Middle East is not expected toprovide sustainable bullish
momentum for the yellow metal.
So this is the analysis fromtraders and things like within

(39:59):
the last 48 hours, somehow, butour government's ramping things
up Interesting, isn't it?
Although gold is a popular safehaven asset, historically
event-induced demand has neverproven to be sustainable.

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Some analysts note that gold isfacing selling pressure at the
start of the week, as theconflict has not impacted global
oil supplies, an event thatwould typically drive oil prices
higher, influencing inflationand global economic growth.
Yeah, I checked the price.
That's.
The first thing I checked thismorning was the price of crude.

(42:28):
It's actually down just alittle bit.
And I have a good friend ofmine who's in the Middle East
right now works for a large oilcompany.
He's been an executive therefor years.
We talk energy sometimes and wewere talking both about the
straight-of-the-whore moves.
I remember talking to my dadabout that 25 years ago, like
that's always been the play andmaybe this has always been the

(42:52):
war plans.
Maybe this is like our versionthe West, the neocons and that
alliance between theestablishment and Israel.
Maybe they have their own vonSchlieffen plan.
That's what the Germans had inWorld War I.
They worked on it for years andIsrael.
Maybe they had their own vonSchlieffen plan.
That's what the Germans had inWorld War I.
They worked on it for years andyears, like the Franco-Prussian
War after the 1870s.

(43:13):
They worked on this plan toinvade France through Belgium
and mobilize all the troops,especially after the advent of
modern troop transports andthings like that.
But that's like they had thevon Schlieffen plan, and maybe
this is just playing out, maybebecause I've been hearing about

(43:35):
this for my whole life.
So what was going to happen ifIsrael was attacked?
Spoiler alert, they started itright.
When it comes to gold, wars arenot always a clear-cut bullish

(43:58):
price driver, the analyst said.
The conflict adds, however, tothe confluence of factors that
have been supportive for theyellow metal.
Rather than focusing onspecific geopolitical events,
bank of America analysts aremonitoring the broader economic
landscape and gold's growingappeal as the important global

(44:20):
monetary asset.
Well, they're right, and ithasn't really done anything.
Gold had its all-time highagain a month ago or so.
It was $3,500 an ounce and thesilver was at $35 an ounce.
So it's 100 to 1 on the silverto gold ratio.

(44:42):
So this really hasn't not yetand you know there are some
terrible ifs out there if youhave the outliers or the black
swans or whatever that causegold to go parabolic.
Let's hope that doesn't happen.
But all the fundamentals arestill like the coarse gold is

(45:02):
poised to go to four thousanddollars.
An coarse gold is poised to goto $4,000 an ounce.
It's poised to go to whatevernumber you can conceive, it will
go up in terms of dollars.
That's just math, I mean.
That doesn't mean you're agenius trader.
It just means that youunderstand that fiat is fake and
fiat has no bottom and gold andsilver and bitcoin have no top.

(45:26):
So you know, on a long enoughtimeline it's like, it's like
zero hedge.
You know, uh, quoting fightclub on a long enough timeline,
the survival rate for everythingdrops to zero.
This comes as the US governmentdebt continues to grow at an

(45:47):
unsustainable pace.
Bank of America noted that goldis attracting new interest as
Congress debates a new spendingbill that aims to cut taxes,
which is expected to increasethe deficit by trillions of
dollars.
That's not really whatincreases.
It's not the tax cuts thatincrease the deficit by

(46:10):
trillions of dollars, it's thetrillions of dollars that we
print.
It's the trillions of dollarsthat we borrow.
You could have no income tax,just have some tariffs and some
consumption tax.
You could do that.
You could dismantle the, youcould stop doing everything that
we're doing that would Overseas.

(46:30):
You don't need what?
700 bases in 132 countries youdon't need that.
It's definitely not forAmerican security.
Market concerns over fiscalsustainability are unlikely to
fade, regardless of the outcomeof senate negotiations.

(46:51):
The analyst said ratevolatility and a weaker us
dollar should keep goldsupported, especially if the us
treasury or the feds isultimately forced to step in and
support markets.
Yeah, we got less than a yearand it looks like Jerome Powell

(47:13):
will be replaced.
Trump will look to be hawkishHawkish for rate cuts.
That's the opposite of what theFed is.
I think he'll be looking to revthat engine.
Do those rate cuts?
and maybe drop them to zero, whoknows?

(47:34):
Because it'll be just on theheels or coming up on the
election cycle.
So there'll be a lot going onthere, ladies and gents, and
that's going to drive you talkabout, gents, and that's going
to drive you talk about I thinkthat's going to drive prices
crazy.
It depends on what happensbetween now and then, too, with
the geopolitically, althoughgold appears a little crowded as

(47:59):
prices have consolidatedelevated levels, bank of america
believes it still has room togrow.
We're still going to be, andthey said they expect gold

(48:21):
between $3,000 and $3,500 anounce, just normally, it says.
The final supportive factor forgold is the broadening rally in
the precious metals sector, assilver and platinum have
attracted new bullish momentum.
Well, you know why, though.
Silver and platinum have beenoutliers for a long time,

(48:41):
especially platinum.
People started ordering someplatinum from me recently.
I've sold it over the years.
One customer I won't say hisname, this has been a few years
had a very large IRA rollover.
He did like I'm saying large,he did like 30% in platinum and
I thought really, but he boughtone ounce Canadian platinum

(49:05):
coins.
You you know so sovereigns anduh he's done.
Well, I was thinking.
I was looking at his charts theother day just because I keep
records of everything, I thought, wow, it's, that was a good
trade, like the whole thing,because he just bought physical,
precious metals with his ira sohe had a whole bunch of you
know in paper and, uh, put itall into some great products and

(49:26):
that's all stored in a vault.
So he's got physical preciousmetals.
You guys, not that I plug toomuch, but you can go to
davidknightgold If you want toroll over paper assets,
especially in these, like ifyou're looking at the actual
metrics like me, if you want toroll over paper assets into
something you call me, go todavidknightgold and reach out

(49:49):
and we'll.
We'll take a look at what yougot.
I promise I won't plug thatmuch.
I'm not really a plug guy, butthat just made me think of that
because those are outliers for areason.
Gold and silver I mean we talkabout gold like they just go
together that way.
But silver is starting to doits own thing.
Contracts that got called,there's other physical issues

(50:13):
with the above-ground supply andit's finally having.
It's like, if you notice, goldwent in the red from yesterday,
went over $3,400 an ounce anddown below that.
So let's see what what price isright now.
But I'll just give you anexample.
Yeah, as I was talking, silverbroke $37 an ounce.

(50:34):
It's $37 an ounce and two cents.
Gold was at $3,400 plus andit's down under $3,400, $3,394.
So it's down about a point fromopening this morning.
So those are going in differentdirections.

(50:54):
Silver is becoming its ownmarket again, which is great and
I think it's just the beginningof something and the reason why
and it's like the fundamentalsin that article like the
geopolitical tensions can drivesomething.
So if you're a day trader,that's something you really want
to watch.
But if you're long term, likeme, um, and that's just what
you're going to be in it, youstart looking at these trends

(51:14):
for accumulation.
And then silver is being addedas a strategic reserve asset.
Places like russia, othercountries, multinationals,
they're starting to move into itbecause of the I mean, it's
affordable, it's real, you canstore it, it's a commodity, it's

(51:34):
an industrial metal, all thatstuff.
So is platinum.
Platinum has the sameproperties and it's just been
kind of an outlier and it hasn'tdone much.
But that is, I think, a trendthat will.
You'll start to see a an upwardtrend in pricing because of
what's happening with the dollar.

(51:55):
It's just another one of thosecommodities.
Okay, I saw something and we'llsee if we can get to it and I
want to keep this CaitlinJohnson article, but it was
something that I think you'regoing to see a growing trend.
I try to just bring you thetrends and I'm only on ever so

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this may be some more on goldand Bitcoin, but it's something
to watch, like a lot of what'shappening right now.
A lot of these multinationalsand big companies are starting
to become Bitcoin treasuries,and there's one there's one that
I saw that I thought well,that's new and it's just under

(54:28):
the trend.
You're going to need to watch.
There's all these companiesthat are starting Bitcoin
treasuries.
They started with microstrategies with Michael Saylor
and that became a veryprofitable deal.
He raised capital throughstocks and they buy Bitcoin, put
it on the balance sheet andthese other companies started to
do that.
Actually, a couple of theTrumps are involved in that, but

(54:49):
this is something different.
Let me one more comment from theLazarus man.
I believe Trump's biggestconcern is how he's going to
have all his supporters Rememberhim as a rich and powerful
leader who was surrounded bybeautiful yeah, something like

(55:09):
that.
Like you know, the same concernthat Cicero had.
Right, we live in interestingtimes, which is the Chinese
curse.
We live in interesting times.
It's also really stupid.
It is idiocracy, it's dangerousand that's what.

(55:35):
If you want to know, what likebothers me is as I read history,
you know I'll be involved, likeI'll have my mind in in
whatever timeline.
That's how my mind works.
It's kind of weird whenever Iread something, I kind of think
in in timelines and like I'llput myself there and like I'd
want to, how I would react withthese characters or whatever,
especially if you're liketalking about the beginning of
the 20th century, which isreally a massive change, and one

(55:57):
of the things that I've alwaysnoticed about that time is how
brilliant people were.
I mean speak several languages,they were masters of their
craft.
I mean it was just a differenttime.
They didn't like if you went totravel, then it's not kind of
like in the 1960s.
You show up to the airport witha suit on.
Now you go and people just walkaround with buckets of Coke and

(56:19):
everybody's dressed likethey're going to bed or
something.
It's just.
You know it's a different time,but those people were so smart
and they still made just theworst decisions.
So it's like, wow, what are wegoing to do?
All right, let me jump overthis article and we've got just

(56:41):
a little bit of time, but thisis a trend.
I want you to pay attention to.
Stuff like this.
It's not just me touting mybusinesses.
There's something to this ifyou're looking at the in the
realm of finance, and it's notjust about investing.
The reason I bring thesearticles to your attention is
because this is the, the globalshift of the monetary system,
which is the.
It's a revolution of money, andthat means that's going to mean

(57:05):
everything, to domestic policyin the united states, to foreign
policy, everything.
It's all tied in together.
And so, you see, you startswith the free, the, what's
considered the.
We don't have a free marketanymore, but it's, you know, the
the market.
It starts there, and then youstart seeing these trends and
it's it's de-dollarization bycompanies, not just, uh,

(57:30):
governments.
Let me put this up on thescreen.
This was on zero hedge, it justcaught my attention.
This is a uk gold miningcompanybird is to convert
revenues into Bitcoin.
Bluebird Mining Ventures LTD.

(57:53):
A Pan-Asian gold projectdevelopment company, recently
announced a major strategicshift it plans to convert future
revenues from its gold miningprojects into Bitcoin and adopt
Bitcoin as a treasury reserveasset.
See, that's key there.
So I listen to a lot of Bitcoinpodcasts.
I listen to as many gold onesas I can, and before the end of

(58:16):
the show I'll let you know andI'll get the links today.
But I'm starting a new show.
It'll be something I haven'tdone before.
We're going to do it every weekand we're going to have a
newsletter with it.
So standby that's going to belike in the next 30 days.
I'll have it locked in, dialedin, but we're going to talk

(58:36):
about this kind of stuff andI've been following these
podcasts and what I'm finding isa lot of these big companies
are starting to become Bitcointreasury companies, which, again
, it's not me talking aboutBitcoin, it's the move away from
the dollar folks.
So this is all happening insideof the Great Reset.

(59:01):
This is by Oscar Zaraj Perezvia BitcoinMagazinecom.
By the way, they put out atweet Strategy shift to convert
gold into digital gold,combining income streams from
gold mining projects andrecycling these revenues into a
proactive Bitcoin and treasurymanagement by adopting a gold

(59:28):
plus, a digital gold strategy.
It offers the company anopportunity to turn the page and
look into the futures, to seekto attract a new type of
shareholder, and that's whatI've been saying for a long time
.
I mean you had some people canbe really myopic and maybe you
don't like bitcoin.
You don't have to.

(59:48):
Um, I look at it from thestandpoint of what it's, what
it's supposed to represent, andthat is in a sea of infinite
fiat.
It's finite.
It's the same thing with goldand silver and if you look at
the actual charts of how muchsupposed wealth there is in the
world, it's not that as much asthey say there is.

(01:00:09):
It's probably like they sayit's.
You know, could be a thousandtrillion or whatever 500
trillion who really knowsexactly how much?
But it's a wash in fiatcurrency.
The market cap of gold's like20 trillion, so 20 out of
hundreds, you know, and that'srepresents all the what would be

(01:00:30):
considered money in the world,cause everything else gold is
money, everything else is debt,everything else is, you know JP
Morgan said his credit themarket cap of Bitcoin is like 2
trillion, so gold's at 20.
Gold's at $20.
Bitcoin's at like $2.
And that's nothing in thescheme of things.

(01:00:54):
So this is stuff to watch,because the world, even starting
with companies, is shiftingaway from the fiat system and
that's where the revolution'staking place.
That's why I bring it up.
The announcement comes asBluebird progresses towards a
key agreement on a flagshipPhilippine project.

(01:01:16):
So much mining going on too.
It's another thing.
With gold mining there's ajunior miners.
There's so many projectshappening right now and I think
you want to see, you shouldstart paying attention to what's
going on with silver, becausesilver a lot of the silver
mining companies like there's sofew of them because it hasn't

(01:01:36):
been profitable because of theclown world metrics of how
silver is valued.
Well, it's paper with WallStreet, but I would look at that
that's a trend, because a lotof the silver that's mined just
comes from gold mining companiesthat go out and find silver

(01:01:57):
just because they're mining forgold or mining for zinc or
mining for copper or whatever,and they pull it out of the
ground.
Well, we have some silver thatwill refine that too.
It's going to become profitableagain to mine silver.
So a lot of these I mean thesecompanies will be popping up.
Mining will be a big thingbecause it's a race for

(01:02:20):
commodities.
Ladies and gentlemen, bluebirdplans to recycle revenues from
its mining operations directlyinto Bitcoin align with what it
describes as an innovativetreasury approach.
Let's see, this is not.
This is not just them Like.
There's a whole host ofcompanies that are just putting

(01:02:43):
Bitcoin on their balance sheet.
Why would they do that?
There's a lot of stuff comingout.
It's back in January of 24 whenBlackRock announced the ETF.
I said watch this.
I think Bitcoin was trading at$29,000 or whatever it was.
It was low compared to what itis now, but that's what drove

(01:03:06):
that price, combining incomestreams from gold mining
projects and recycling theserevenues into a proactive
Bitcoin and treasury managementapproach.
So there's two things.
Like they're pulling gold outof the ground.
It's slowly becoming recognizedagain as the world's reserve

(01:03:30):
currency, which will changeeverything.
And I think, at the end of theday, like they have to run.
You know, you have the, you'llown nothing and be happy.
Klaus Schwabian, luciferian,davos, great reset, right, they

(01:03:53):
have that setup, that simulation, but they also have to run the
same.
Like okay, if we wanted to havea functioning world, like how
do we do that?
Well, you have to get rid of it, you have to reset from fiat
and those who have used fakemoney to accumulate assets would
be sitting in the best.

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So you'd have to have lawmakers who understand law
and math.
You wouldn't just be able toprint like we have been.
You'd have to go back to budgetconstraints and there would be
debates on that.
They don't even know how to dothat anymore.
It's Hollywood for ugly peopleat this point.
But if you did, it's estimatedgold would be minimum $10,000 an

(01:06:35):
ounce.
If you reset it which I'm noteven for, by the way you could
do something different.
Maybe just have governments notbe in the currency business.
That would be great.
That's a utopia, right?
That's never going to happen.
But I always like to ask why?
Why do you do that?

(01:06:55):
I don't need you.
We already have, but we knowwhat our money's worth.
And if you deal in gold, silveror Bitcoin, you can look and
see Private institutions do muchbetter at that.
I should be expecting CharlieRobinson any minute.

(01:07:16):
Now let's go check outCharlie's Twitter.
There he is.
I'm going to pull Charlie inreal quick for you.
There he is, I'm pulled charliein real quick.
All right, this is my friendcharlie robinson.
Macroaggressions fame.
Welcome back to the davidknight show, sir thanks for

(01:07:38):
having me.

Speaker 12 (01:07:39):
Are we reading zero hedge?

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
we were reading zero hedge uh, I had an article up.
There's a, a british goldmining company, that's going to
take their profits from goldmining and turn it into a
bitcoin treasury.

Speaker 12 (01:07:51):
That's just yes, yeah, I've got it post uh set to
go up today on activist post.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Yep, yes, yes, I wanted to mention activist post.

Speaker 12 (01:07:59):
I was just pulling your, your twitter up and uh I
had a bit of a run yesterday,the last two days you know I
never get any traction on thatsite.
It's uh, I'm talking to myself.
As far as I'm concerned.
I did make a, a kind ofoffhanded comment that, uh, when
they were, they were moving theNimitz.
I said, uh, it looks likethey're positioning the false

(01:08:24):
flag or they're moving the falseflag piece into that one right
there Got 1.4 million views and48,000 likes.
I've never had that before.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
My favorite shot is the comments.
And did you read the comments?
Every single one.

Speaker 12 (01:08:43):
There wasn't as far as I could see, and I didn't
read.
I didn't read every single oneof them, but almost everyone I
saw was and I didn't read everysingle one of them, but almost
everyone I saw was like yep,uh-huh, it's coming.
There wasn't a single persongoing oh, you're crazy, get out
of here with this stuff.
They were all like, yeah, Icould see that happening.
I mean, once you know theplaybook, it's like football.

(01:09:03):
Once you know the plays, theother team runs and they line up
in that formation, you go, Iknow what's coming next, based
on the game film I've beenwatching and we've been watching
Israeli game film for a longtime.
We know how this works.
We know how they operate.
By way of deception, thou shaltdo war, so expect, expect a

(01:09:23):
covert means, expect some sortof false flag, expect something.
Now, it may not be the Nimitz,it may happen in.
You know it may happen inNebraska.
You know it may be one of thosesituations where it's easy to
dismiss.
Oh well, you know Americansaren't going to get all riled up
into wanting to go into WorldWar Three if something happens
in the you know the red sea orsomeplace you know.

(01:09:46):
But if it happens in kentuckyor arizona or someplace that
you're not expecting that, thenit sends the message that if it
could happen in this small townamericana, then it could happen
anywhere, and if it can happenanywhere then everybody needs to
be afraid.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
I was thinking on my way into the studio this morning
about, for some reason, themovie Patton popped into my head
and George C Scott, you know,and it has that scene where he's
going to fight Rommel for thefirst time and he'd been
studying Rommel, you know.
So he actually read Rommel'sbook on tank tactics, you know.

(01:10:25):
And then he gets, he's excitedbecause he defeats, he has a
small skirmish, defeats him andsays you magnificent sob, I read
your book.
You know it's kind of like.
It's kind of like where we arenow.
Uh, you're so right.
I mean this is.
It seems like they run the sameplay and they would.
It is like the world, by theway, like rational I say

(01:10:46):
semi-rational people, butmarkets I I was talking about
this earlier, charlie marketsalready anticipated that.
They're like okay, we see theback and forth between Israel
and Iran.
We see this is geographicallycontained.
So the price of gold pulls backbecause they're like well,
nothing else here.
This should be a, this willburn itself out.
It's geographically contained.

(01:11:07):
Meanwhile, the Trumpadministration he's rushing back
from the g7.
You got pete hegg, seth goingon on.
You know all, all hands on deckfor fox news.
You know hyperventilation andyou're going.
So what?
Wait a minute, what is it?
What are you doing?
And then you have all the, allthe talking heads and the
sycophants for the militaryindustrial complex are already
saying look out, for you know,terror attacks here, which has

(01:11:31):
nothing to do with you knowwhat's actually happening there
yeah, but speaking of knowingthe israeli play, in my octopus
book I wrote a chapter calledstudent body right.

Speaker 12 (01:11:43):
And student body right is an old play of an old
football play that you, the USCTrojans, used to run in the late
sixties when they had OJSimpson as their running back.
We won't we won't get into whatOJ wound up doing in the future
, but but the play was hand offthe ball to OJ.
Everybody, pull your tackles,pull everybody in and run it.
Run everybody off to the righthand side.

(01:12:04):
Everybody's going to block.
We're going to call it studentbody right.
The entire student body isrunning to the right side.
We're going to block, oj isgoing to run and it's an
unstoppable play.
And the reason why I named thatchapter student body right with
regard to Israel was becausethey run the same play over and
over again.
If it's unstoppable, they willrun it until somebody proves
that they can stop it.

(01:12:27):
I wrote that in the context ofcalling everybody anti-Semitic
and labeling everybody you knowthe Jewish people as victims,
constantly, constantly thevictim, and how they prey on
your emotions to get you to feelguilty for not you know, I
don't know standing with Israelenough, or talking about the
Holocaust enough, or whatever itis.

(01:12:47):
Whatever the thing is that theywant you to do, they have a
tactic that they run over andover again.
It's guilt and shame and tryingto make people feel like
they're anti-Semites if theydon't properly support this
terrorist regime in the MiddleEast that's infiltrated the
United States government and hasaffected our foreign policy for
the last 60 years.
So the tactic when it comes tofalse flags is the same.

(01:13:13):
I mean, how many times dopeople need to watch the dancing
Israelis on Israeli television?
Talk about we were there todocument the event.
Why were you there to documentit?
Did you get lucky?
Did you get a fortune cookiethat told you to go document the
event, or were you involved init?
Of course, the answer.
We know who was involved in9-11.
We know it wasn't just the Bushadministration and those

(01:13:34):
lunatics.
They had help.
And so when they start talkingabout wanting to draw us into an
unpopular war, just go to theplaybook.
And the playbook says look fora false flag to be blamed on
their enemy, osama bin Laden inthe early 90s, whatever to kick
off this war in the Middle East.
This seven countries in fiveyears, and of course, iran has

(01:13:59):
been on the drawing boardforever and the United States
and Israel have been looking foran excuse to do it.
So you just work backwards.
And I think what has changed inthe last I don't know, maybe
decade or so is that it used tobe that the American people by
default would think oh, we, thepeople, don't want war.

(01:14:20):
So therefore, our governmentdoesn't want war.
So they're trying to keep usout of this potential war.
But things keep happening.
We keep getting drawn in.
No, no, you don't want war, Idon't want war, our government
wants war.
They want World War III.
They're not trying to figureout how to not get in it,
they're going to the PatrickClausen quote.

(01:14:42):
I frankly find it hard to figureout how our president is going
to get us to war with Iran.
Not get us out of a war withIran, get us to war with Iran.
So we have to change ourthinking.
We can't export our mentalityor our morality onto the
government, onto the UnitedStates government.
That's insane.

(01:15:02):
They don't want the same thingswe want.
We want peace.
They want war.
No-transcript, this war?

(01:15:33):
Of course not.
Have they done that before?
No, the Israelis have plenty oftimes.
Have the Iranians?
No, they always get blamed forstuff like this.
So I just opened my playbookand say what will happen is the
Iranians will not conduct aterrorist attack against the
United States, but that doesn'tmean one won't happen and be
blamed on them.

(01:15:53):
The Israelis will, because youknow they do that.
They talk openly about it.
They're the ones that want it.
If you were investigating acrime, a murder, and you dragged
all these people down to thepolice station, you would say
who has motive and opportunity,who wants this more than any Qui
bono?
Who benefits?

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Speaker 12 (01:18:03):
The Israelis.
They need this.
What would you do if you wereIran?
Would you take a big stick andwhack the hornet's nest of the
United States?
Of course not, but that doesn'tmean it won't happen.
And maybe, tony, maybe it's notsomething that happens in the
US like on our homeland, thoughI think it may be.
What if it's that, just all ofa sudden, our military bases

(01:18:23):
that are in Iraq and Syria?
What if they just up and blow?
What if it's that, just all ofa sudden, our military bases
that are in Iraq and Syria?
What if they just up and blow?
What if Diego Garcia getsturned into a parking lot?
Then what?
Then we're in from a militarystandpoint.
It might not have the generalpublic support for it, but the
media will work 24-7.
The new mainstream alternativemedia will be talking about when

(01:18:44):
do we start World War III?
Tomorrow, next week, the nextmonth?
I mean, there'll never be anoff ramp to like let's not do
this.
So I'm very concerned about thesituation that we're in now,
because there are state actorsout there that actively want
this.
And then, on top of all, youand I have had plenty of
conversations about money, hardmoney, the economy, fiat,

(01:19:08):
currencies, things like that.
Let's also not forget about theimpending economic collapse.
That needs to be papered overand covered up before it happens
.
And what better way to do thatthan to distract everybody on
their televisions with war andalso give the printing press the
justification to go berserk andstart printing money to try and

(01:19:29):
paper over this collapse that'scoming?

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
I totally agree with you that entire synopsis because
we're being led to it and it'skubono.
You look at who benefits.
It's amazing historically, andnot that Iran's a great nation
or something that I want to livethere, or you know, but if you
look how restrained they've been, you go back to our
intervention at operation ajaxin the early 1950s and the

(01:19:55):
overthrow of mozadeq andinstallation of the shah and
everything else.
And it was supposed like at thetime there was general george
marshall opposed, uh, therecognition of Israel.
I think that would drive awedge between Iran and the West.
Even back then that's what thethinking was and it certainly
did.
But we kept intervening, doingthe overthrowing, put in the

(01:20:18):
Shah and that led to the 1979revolution and really the start
of modern day.
What you would perceive asislamic radicalism.
I mean, that's when you could,but that's shia, but that's the.
That's the beginning of, ofcourse, 1979, the same year that
we recruit tim osmond, uh, thehead of al-qaeda, to uh to kill

(01:20:38):
russians, uh, in afghanistan forus, and that's osama bin laden
for those who don't know, andthat's so that that's a big
radicalization point there.
But they call them the, theycall Iran the largest exporter
of terrorism in the world andI'm watching them get hit
preemptively.
This is a preemptive strike.
This is, you know this, thatthat is not a just war strategy,

(01:21:02):
that's not coming from a moralsuperiority, like it's not the
saint augustine's just warsynopsis.
This is something totallydifferent, very third reichish,
if you ask me.
So no, that that I don't know.
The definition of largestexporter of terror in the world
is is laughable at this point ifyou look and see the

(01:21:24):
intervention of both.
I mean, what's the latest fromassad?
Uh, how's qaddafi doing, youknow?
How's?
saddam hussein right now, likeall these things, and we gave
saddam hussein that you know,the gas to take on and gas use
chemical weapons against theiranians in the 1980s.
So there's a lot of data there,so they're pretty restrained,
as you know, as far as, like,we've been everywhere since then

(01:21:47):
and invading and bombing, andthe Israelis too.
I mean when has Iran done apreemptive strike on someone
else's nuclear facility?

Speaker 12 (01:21:58):
Never.
It's all, as we rightlyrecognize.
It's all classic projectionfrom the American empire and the
Israeli whatever you want tocall it terrorist, ethnostate
they're the ones doing this.
Accuse your enemy of that whichyou yourself are guilty of.

(01:22:19):
This is just classicpsychopathy.
It's projection.
It's every speech HillaryClinton has ever given.
It's frustrating.
But what the thing is when, onceyou learn the language and you
decipher how this works, and you, you, you get, you start to
formulate your own translationfor what, what, when they say

(01:22:42):
something, what it actuallymeans, you know, and, and the
toastmasters the thumb on that.
You know we've got to start.
You watch these things and yougo OK, I'm getting
neurolinguistic programming here, I'm getting classic
psychopathy.
I'm getting projection of theutmost degree, I'm getting
appeals to authority.
I mean, like you could just godone wonderful work recently in

(01:23:08):
taking those speeches and thenpointing out the Barnum
statements would be the newmockumentary Barnum world, which
goes overboard when people youknow we're all in this together,
we're, you know, you, you watchthe speeches and they are.
There's two versions.
There's the words that arecoming out of the person's mouth

(01:23:35):
and then there's like thetranslation and the translate
like if you were the signlanguage person, the sign
language person, would be givingyou a much different
translation.
It's like oh, this lady's crazy.
This lady's talking about youknow, she's accusing the enemy
of things that they're about todo.
You know, talking about Iran isabout to kick off a terrorism
in the West and everything.

(01:23:55):
No, no, okay.
So what does that mean?
When I hear the Israeligovernment talking about how
Iran is going to kick offterrorism inside America, I've
run that through my filter.
My translation is oh, we are,we, the Israelis are about to do
a false flag in America to dragyou into war.
Oh, that's, you know thatthey're our greatest ally.
They're our, they're ourgreatest ally.

(01:24:16):
We'll re-examine that.
Run that through your BSdetector, please, everybody.
Go, go back and look.
Let's talk about the Liberty.
Let's talk about a variety ofthings.
Let's talk about the King DavidHotel.
Let's talk about where the.
Let's talk about Menachem Begin, one of the founders of the
state of Israel, being describedby somebody as a international

(01:24:38):
terrorist and he corrects themand says no, I am the godfather
of international terrorism, yougo.
Was he misquoted?
No, he felt he was misquotedwhen he was only called just an
international terrorist.
He wants to be known as thegodfather you go.
This is the guy who startedyour country.
This was one of your firstprime ministers.
This is the guy who set themood for it.

(01:25:01):
This is a guy who was involvedin bombing hotels.
He was a guy who was involvedin bombing hotels.
So you know, excuse me if Idon't just get on my knees for
our greatest ally, because ourgreatest ally has been a
parasite on this country, hasbeen destroying America from the
inside for a very long time,and I think that a segment of

(01:25:26):
the general public is startingto wake up to this.
And 9-11 didn't do it because alot of people couldn't figure
out the fingerprints and theygot wrapped up into the
patriotism and the songs andAmerica and all this stuff that
was going on.
And we saw what happened to theDixie chicks and anybody that

(01:25:47):
stood up and said well, I havequestions about maybe us going
into Iraq, you are anti-American, right, and all that stuff.
I don't know if those tacticsare going to work this time
around.
I think a lot of people haveseen through this and I think
you know I mean it's evidence bymy my throwaway tweet that
winds up going viral and peopleare all in agreement.
Yes, we see this as apossibility.

(01:26:09):
This isn't crazy conspiracytheory although it is
technically a theory, I suppose.
But it's not crazy.
It's just connecting dots, it'slooking at history, it's
pattern recognition, it'sknowing your enemy, it's knowing
your allies, it's knowing a lotof things.
And so I wonder, I wonder, ifthey're going to have the

(01:26:30):
ability with a defunctmainstream media that's lost its
touch and has zero credibility,and I wonder if they can really
sell another unpopular MiddleEast war these days, because
every you know, the next timeNetanyahu starts talking about
anything, is this babies in theincubator or is this yellow cake
uranium?
Because I, I, I I'm gettingconfused as to which which lie

(01:26:56):
you're telling right now.
But I know it's, I know it's alie.
I just I'm not sure if, if uhRand corporation wrote it for
you, or if it was coming out ofum.
You know some uh hill andnolton thing, a pr firm that's
writing this.
Which one?
Because we're not getting thetruth.
I think we were aware of that,and um, and and to sit by and

(01:27:18):
cheerlead america into world warthree, I think is disgusting
and we should want no part in itone 1000%, and, historically,
you talk about the differencebetween this 2001 and now as far
as culture, and so there's agap, there's a vastness of
difference between

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
the consciousness and look and there's still I talked
about partisanship andstupidity this morning the
blending of things Like whathappened to the Tea Party
movement.
I saw what that you know,because originally it was Ron
Paul's and it was real and itwas substantive and then it
turned into, you know, whateverkind of a clown world version,
funhouse mirror version ofitself.

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The knee-jerk support that Isaw when I got home from Iraq,
my third foreign war.
I got home and I was done withthe military and like the way
that people in North Texas, likethe way that they would view
the Middle East that's.
I don't hear that as muchanymore.
It's a it's a.
It's a disappearing demographicand I think that the power that

(01:30:18):
the Israeli lobby has is and Italked about this yesterday on
the show, I think is is waning,I think.
I think their high water markwas probably about 11 years ago.
Now it's still very powerfuland you can see that because
nobody wants this war.
But yet you've got.
Even Trump was supposedlyelected by a base of people that

(01:30:42):
don't want Middle Eastern warsor don't want to be.
They want to work on thiscountry and anyway he's doing it
unilaterally, it looks like,and just because of the powerful
interests and powerful lobbies.
But that's not as powerful asit once was.
I think that it has peaked.
I mean, you mentioned somethingabout the fingerprints of 9-11.

(01:31:03):
Well, there's investigationsthat that may or may not happen.
That even you know TuckerCarlson had on, was it Senator
Ron Johnson had him on aboutlooking at Building 7 again, you
start.
If you uncover any of that,you'll find what you just talked
about.
And you know, back when therewas some journalism in this

(01:31:25):
country, brit Youm covered theDancing Israelis.
That was a Fox News clip.
They actually who was the other?
I forget the other guy's name,but he used to be on Fox News as
well they covered it and it wasslowly or it was quickly washed
away, but they did cover it.

(01:31:47):
Those guys, the Dancing Israelis, spent 70 days in federal
prison and were released underthe Bush administration.
They traded them for somethingand did something and they
released them.
And that's when you talkedabout them being on Israeli
television saying that they werethere to document the event.
Just a little bit of push andwe would see that that operation

(01:32:07):
was not what we were told.
The official story isridiculous on its face with
everything in it.
But you're right.
I mean in the playbook over andover again, kubono, who
benefits the ties to not onlythe military industrial complex
but the um interest of theIsraeli government.

(01:32:28):
I mean Netanyahu said that'syou can go look this up.
He said nine 11 was was goodfor Israel.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:32:37):
And the person who got the dancing Israelis out of
of prison was Michael Chertoff,a dual Israeli citizen who gave
us the backscatter machines forfor the TSA, and all that
through his company, so somebodywho had advanced knowledge of
the event.
He was there to document theevent as well.
So I think with Israel'sinfluence it's two-part.
It's their influence over theAmerican government, which has

(01:33:04):
not waned, in my opinion.
It's still fully captured,which is the reason why we can
rightly see the playbookunfolding here and yet we're in
and we can be against war andthe public can be against war,
but we're still going to get itbecause that segment is still
captured, that the governmentalcapture by Israel.
Now the population, the opinion, the popular opinion, that is
definitely going away.
That is waning in terms of ofIsrael's influence.

(01:33:25):
The general public is notblindly supporting these Israeli
endeavors.
They're starting to askquestions like well, does this
help us?
Because we've got a lot.
It's one thing when you're in abooming economy and
everything's fine and you're notworried about 10 million people
coming across the southernborder or taking your job or AI
taking your job or the dollardevaluating and hyperinflating.

(01:33:46):
If you don't have any of thosethings, you can maybe say, yeah,
sure, let's get into someforeign escapade in the Middle
East and stay there for a decade.
But when you've got problems athome.
It's very difficult to sell that.
The United States needs toinvest trillions of dollars in
yet another war, like we had inAfghanistan, where you replace

(01:34:10):
the Taliban 20 years later withthe Taliban.
So you can't sell that to theAmerican people anymore and get
their support for it.
You might be able to sell.
Put the troops on the southernborder For half the country.
You'd probably be able to sellthat narrative.
But put the troops in Egypt andstage them there to fly them

(01:34:34):
into Iran.
No, this feels like it's anunsellable.
It feels like you would needeverything to go right.
You'd need the economy to be ingood shape.
You'd need the media to stillhave teeth, which they don't.
You'd need for there to be somesort of.
You'd still need a false flagor some sort of justification
that made it scary enough to getthe boomers to freak out and

(01:34:56):
support this, which I don'tthink they do anymore.
They're in their RVs, drivingaround the country, not paying
attention, not interested inthis any longer, trying to spend
all their money so they don'thave to give it to their kids
when they die.
So, filled up with spikeproteins and statins, driving
around their RVs looking for aKOA on the side of the road
somewhere.
But I don't think you can getthose people to support another

(01:35:17):
war.
You certainly can't get theyounger demographics they're the
ones that are rightly callingout Israel, which I've been
pleasantly surprised for thatyoung, that 18 to 28 demographic
in that age range there.
You ask them their feelings onstuff in the Middle East and
they don't want to, if they evenknow what's going on.

(01:35:38):
They're not interested inforeign excursions, be it China
defending Taiwan.
We go wait why?
We're not interested in that.
That's not our fight.
Or you want to start anotherwar with Iran.
I don't think that you're goingto have the support of the
people.
But, tony, unfortunately Idon't know if that's even going

(01:36:00):
to matter, because it's not asthough the government is going
to go.
Oh, we did a poll.
It's not as though thegovernment is going to go.
Oh, you know, we did a poll.
We called 2000 households andwe got the poll results back and
seems that war is unpopular.
So you know, donald Trump,don't start a war because you'll
be unpopular, you won't getreelect.
Oh wait, you don't have to worryabout reelection.
Do it anyway.
You know people are going tothink that you've sold out to

(01:36:22):
Israel.
People already think you'vesold out to Israel.
It doesn't even matter anymore.
And of course, we see theWarhawks, the Lindsey Grahams,
the Tom Cottons of the worldthat are enthusiastically.
I joked that John Bolton had toconsult his physician after the
Iran strikes.
His blue pills were no longerneeded the blue pill.

(01:36:43):
But this is where we go withthis, unfortunately.
I have to kind of laugh at theabsurdity of it all, just to
keep from crying, because thisis real scary.
I have no beef with the Iranianpeople.
Why would I't?

(01:37:04):
They're not bothering me.
I'm not bothering them.
I don't see the need for a warto start off.
And yet here we are in themiddle of 2025 and I think that
by the end of this year we maysee you know, we may.
The world may be a verydifferent place and um, and

(01:37:25):
that's a shame, because itdoesn't have to be that way and
these people are choosing to dothis.
This is a entirely preventablesituation If you had people that
wanted to prevent war, butunfortunately I think the mask
has been off lately.
We've seen these people for whothey are.
They want this.
We knew Lindsey Graham wouldcheerlead, but it's the other

(01:37:48):
people, the people that weresemi-moderate, that are getting
on board with this.
And then you have to startasking is this what you really
want, or are you beingcontrolled?
Are you being manipulated fromthe shadows?
Is your APAC handler in youroffice telling you this is the
way it's going to be, or you'regoing to get primaried and we're
going to replace you?
I mean, we saw what happenedwith Cori Bush, and not that I
have any love for cory bush, Ithink she's a lunatic but she

(01:38:10):
came out strongly against israel, got primary.
The new guy who's in her placemight as well, you know, be
brian mass, you know, showing upwearing an idf uniform and an
israeli cape for all for all, wecare so.
So they'll get somebody inthere that will support their
cause.
If you don't, if you're apolitician, and you don't if
you're Cynthia McKinney or orThomas Massey, you know they

(01:38:34):
know who you are to try and getyou out of there.

Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
One of my favorite tweets of all you.
You kill it on Twitter.
One of my favorite tweets ofall time was you on after the
October 7th.
It just said not dancing today.
Not dancing today.
Yeah, october 7th.
It just said not dancing today.
Not dancing today.
Yeah, yeah, that IDF uniform bythe Congressman.
I just I thought, could I, isthere any historical reference?

(01:38:59):
And I read a lot about you knowcongressional history and you
know, going back to guys likeSam Rayburn and Lyndon Johnson
and things.
I was always interested in that.
And just you know congressionalhistory, senate history, I
can't.
I was always interested in that.
It is you know congressionalhistory, senate history.
I can't think of anythingremotely like that.
That'd be like you showing up.
But I was thinking about whatif you were, just you know, show
up dressed as a federale.

(01:39:19):
Maybe we'll be a cowboy or youcould be a pirate, you know, I
mean, that's how.
But it's even more dangerousbecause it's the assumption that
this uniform is better.
And that's the thing about theIsraeli worship that I've always
just had such a problem withgrowing up, and this is the

(01:39:42):
danger that it leads to.
It's like everything they do isright, they're better, it's
what we're supposed to do.
Especially you get theChristian element that
unfortunately falls for that.
It's so, so sad.
The Schofield Bible and otherthings that point to that, and
it's just really it'sdevastating to watch If you know
what we know, just do a littlebit of digging and you will find

(01:40:05):
that this is not in our bestinterest and it certainly wasn't
the purpose of the UnitedStates or the Constitutional
Republic to get involved in anyof this kind of stuff and the
sacrifices will have to be ifthis continues to escalate,
which is, you know, charlie, ifwe do airstrikes and there's

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retaliations on US bases.
Have you ever seen the pictureof all the bases that surround
Iran, like I'm sure you have?

Speaker 12 (01:40:33):
Like you know it's like why did?

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their country so close to ourmilitary bases?
You know they're everywhere.
They're everywhere, we're allover the place.
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Stone.
I think Josh Brolin playsGeorge W Bush.
And then they oh gosh, is itChristian Bale that played?
No, it's not him that playsCheney that time, but it's
another cheney.
Right, cheney goes on the board.

Speaker 8 (01:42:51):
I forget who plays cheney?

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
in the movie, but he, cheney, goes on the big board,
you know, and then it's, it'sall about iran, like him, that's
what there's.
That's the whole push of theseven countries in five years.
Wesley clark on 9 12 2001, likethe that setup this could be.
This is like end game and Idon't know if they're in some
sort of hurry up offense kind ofuh system or mode now because

(01:43:15):
of the politics that are goingon.
It is interesting that youmentioned and I've noticed this
too they don't poll anymore.
Like the last couple ofelection cycles, they didn't
even talk to people about whatwas going on in their lives.
It was like this is what we'redoing, this is the contrast, but
then not ever looking at whatpeople actually wanted.

(01:43:36):
So that is interesting.
Like we've kind of been apost-political world, like
there's.
I don't even know why anybodywould study political science
anymore.
Honestly, I mean, I'm not evensaying that facetiously, I don't
even know.
Like what is there a science inbetween?
One of these two things isgoing to win, because they'll
contrast each other, but theyhave the same think.

Speaker 12 (01:43:56):
It was Trump that said something along the lines
of they better not attack us orwe are not getting directly

(01:44:18):
involved in this war unless weare attacked directly.
That was the and for.
There's two versions of peoplereading that comment, for you
know, there's two people.
There's two versions of peoplereading that comment.
There's the optimistic versionis going oh well, as long as the
, as long as there's hope, aslong as the Iranians don't

(01:44:38):
attack our bases or our Nimitzor whatever that's out there,
that that that's a big neonflashing target that says attack
us.
As long as the Iranians don'tdo that, we'll be fine.
It's like no, no, no whatthey're saying.
That's the setup.
That's how you know you'reabout to get attacked.
It's like, well, you know theone thing that'll get us into
this war.

(01:44:58):
I hope they don't do the onething that gets us into this war
.
And then you look at Iran andIran's going.
We're not going to do that.
We know exactly what willhappen, and yet it will happen
anyway.
And it will happen because itwill be the Israelis that do it
and they will pin it on theIranians.
We've watched this movie.
We know how it plays out.
If you see an American militarybase in the Middle East, it'd be

(01:45:21):
in Iraq, bordering Iraq, thedisputed regions of Syria,
whatever Lebanon.
You see one of these bases allof a sudden explode and I don't
know.
2000 American troops die,40,000 American troops die,
whatever.
They all get hit at the sametime.
Or the Nimitz that's beingpositioned in in into the area.
That's an old ship set to bedecommissioned in a, in a year,

(01:45:45):
and that thing winds upmiraculously at the bottom of
the sea.
It will not be the Iranians, itwill be the Israelis doing it
as a false flag to draw Americain.
When America says oh, pleasedon't throw me in the briar
patch, and then you're going toget thrown in the briar patch.
That's just how it's going togo.
This is the signaling that theysay, because then Trump can go

(01:46:08):
back and say well, I told themnot to do it and then they did
it anyway, so I've been given nochoice.
I mean, we told you what ourred line was and they crossed it
anyway, because they're crazyand they want us dead and they
hate our freedoms and they hateAmerica and they hate us for
apple pie and blue jeans andthey just want to bullos to run
the world.
It's like Iran's not botheringme.

(01:46:30):
I don't see Iran interfering inmy life at all.
I don't see Brian Mast wearinghis Iranian uniform.
I don't see any of that goingon.
I see a lot of Israel worshiphappening.
I see a country that isdesperate to start World War III
, to get us to fight World WarIII, by the way, not them to
fight World War III, but for us,big brother, to come in here

(01:46:53):
and give them the targetinginformation that they need, the
bunker busters that they need toget these facilities in the
mountains or drilled into themountain that Iran has.
They need us to do this, andthe only way that they can get
us in there is if we have ajustification for getting in
there, and the one justificationis if we get attacked.

(01:47:14):
So what do you think is goingto happen?
We're going to get attacked,and who's going to get blamed
for it?
Iran.
And who's going to be the onedoing it?
Not Iran, it might even be us,it might even be special forces.
I mean, this is what you couldthe Patrick Clausen interview,
or I don't know if it's not aninterview, but the Patrick

(01:47:35):
Clausen speech that he gave.
Are you familiar with this guy?
He's the yeah, the Israeli guy.
He, he talks about an Iranian.
You know crisis instigation andIranian sub.
Sometimes they go down,sometimes they might not come
back up.
Who would know why?
You know he does the wholething and you go.
Oh my God, they're talking he'snot drunk at a bar, talking to

(01:47:55):
his buddies and he don't tellanyone I want to start a war.
He's in on a podium withmicrophone cameras everywhere.
He is talking about how theywant to start a war with Iran
and so when it kicks off, thatpiece of footage needs to be
admitted as evidence.
Everyone needs to watch thatand go.
This is what you're workingagainst.

(01:48:16):
This isn't.
You could do all that.
You could say all the nicethings to Iran, say we're not
going to attack, it doesn'tmatter, the Israelis are going
to do it and pin it on them.
We know this because they talkopenly about how they're going
to do it.
We know this because they talkopenly about how they're going
to do it.
So again, like if I were, if ifI committed a crime and I'm in,
the, pull up a video of me froma week earlier or a year earlier

(01:48:39):
explaining how I could commit acrime and this is exactly how I
would do it, and then a crimegets committed exactly like that
, and I'm a.
Wouldn't you pull that evidence, that video, up and go?
Well, here's, here's youtalking about it.
You're, you're, you'rebasically plotting it.
This is premeditated.
So when this kicks off and I andunfortunately, I think it will,

(01:48:59):
because I think, I thinkNetanyahu and his team are
backed into a corner and I don'tthink they can stop without all
going to prison or worse Uh, soI think that this, that this
has been decided, I think theygot their guy in office, trump,
who is either ideologicallycaptured, he's captured from
blackmail.
I don't know.
I don't know how much they need.
No one says, oh, I bet they gotthe goods on Trump.

(01:49:21):
Maybe they do, maybe they don't.
I don't know how much they needto have the goods on Trump.
I think he wants this.
I think he's on this team.
So I'm worried for humanity.
As in any war, I fear for thepublic, who has no power in this
.
They're just on the receivingend the people in Iran, the

(01:49:47):
people in Israel, who don't wantthis war, who are held captive
by their own government in thesame way we are by ours, and I
know there's a segment of theIsraeli population that are, you
know, throwing their hands upsaying we're not in this either.
You know much.
In the same way, you say thiswhen the Middle East accuses
Americans.
You and your government areinvolved in this.
No, no, I'm not involved inthis at all.
I don't want this war.

(01:50:08):
I don't want war.
Our government does.
Let's separate governments fromthe people.
But I just worry for the peoplebecause we're always the ones
that pay the price, becauseLindsey Graham's not getting a
helmet and a parachute put on,no matter how much we fantasize
about that outcome.
It would be fantastic if ithappened, but until it happens,
we will be guided into thesebloody wars by chicken hawk

(01:50:34):
politicians that have no skin inthe game, like Lindsey Graham.
Lindsey Graham is a homosexualman with no kids.
He has no stake in the game.
That's why a lot of the peoplethe Alex Carps and Peter Thiel's
and Harari's of the worldthey're all homosexual men with
no children.
I think that matters.

(01:50:56):
I think it matters if you haveskin in the game for the next
generation.
If you don't and you'replotting dystopian wars or
autonomous drones that aremurdering people, or AI running
the next theater of war, I thinkyou need to have kids.
I think it matters.
I think you need to have abloodline to protect, because if
you don't and I'm starting tonotice a pattern with a lot of

(01:51:18):
people in positions of powerhere I think when you don't, it
changes your decision makingprocess.

Speaker 4 (01:51:23):
I agree with that.
You look at that certain set,that's a huge portion of
intelligence and militaryindustrial complex operators,
from intelligence to directmilitary.
That is a big portion.
Yeah, and you're right, and themindset is not about the future
, it's about now.
It's hard to imagine being thatperson who wants any of this

(01:51:48):
right now.
I mean just stepping back andlogically looking at I got a
text from my dad.
Uh, right when it kicked off bythe way, kicked off on Friday
the 13th.
Anybody else notice that?
Where's all my symbology people?
I mean that's uh, friday the13th, guys, I haven't seen you
guys yet.
Uh, I noticed it right off thebat.
It was Friday the 13th and mydad texted me and said and he

(01:52:10):
was very thoughtful and has beenaround so he understands
business cycles he's like thisis going to be really bad for
most businesses.
He said it may be good foryours and I thought about that.
I don't know that it would be,but if it is I would rather not
have it.
I would rather just work on thefuture.

(01:52:30):
I'd rather just build somethingand be creative.
Who is sitting around?
You've got to think about thetype of person.
And it does make you when youstart thinking about.
You're going to disrupt allthese lives around the world and
the consequences could becatastrophic.
Because you're playing withfire and you know it Like.

(01:52:50):
This is just criminality, it'spure evil, because it has
nothing to do with keepingpeople safe.
Actually, it's the opposite.
It's about just the ritual ofwar itself, and that's what's so
heinous and unforgivable aboutany of this stuff.
And then there's no turningback at this point, like if this
is Chelsea Handler from DearChelsea.

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Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
You know we go through with this and I want to
get your opinion on what.
Where goes alternative media atthis point?
Where goes the whole?
You you know, because this willbreak every promise.
If this is the, if this is thecase and we go headlong into
this thing and it may be theunintended well, you know, you
talked about false flags butthere will be something that

(01:55:21):
happens if we continue.
There will be a catalyst for it.
Where do we go?
Because the world's going tochange, america's going to
change, there's going to be awhole host of changes.
I think that politically,culturally, it'll have a
profound effect.
But I think one of the firstplaces you'll see it is
alternative media.
I know there's a big portion ofalternative media that's

(01:55:43):
controlled in some way becauseof sponsors or whatever.
There's analysis that can bemade on that, but this is a big
chunk of it is all turning to me.
Trump's the peacemaker.
Trump did this and that, andthis is taking down the deep
state.
That kind of just destroys allof that overnight, doesn't it?

Speaker 12 (01:56:01):
I would hope so.
I would hope that people I meanbut there is a segment that I
think will be.
They're ideologically capturedon the red team and the blue
team.
You're never going to wake themup.
They're going to be MAGAforever or they're going to be
Build Back Better Biden people.
That's just where they are andyou don't really worry about
them because you can't reach asegment.

(01:56:21):
It's the free agents in themiddle that I'm looking for.
I think alternative media has areal opportunity here, actually
the actual alternative media,not the mainstream alternative
media that David Icke has talkedabout.
We recognize that the corporatepress is dead.
Msnbc's ratings are down 57%,cnn's down almost 50%.

(01:56:48):
Comcast Dave Zaslow has beentrying to sell MSNBC.
There's no takers.
They had to put it in adifferent investment vehicle.
It's called SpinCo.
They moved it in there so thatit would be off their books, so
that their stock price wasn'thammered by it.
It's a tax write-off for them.
They're going to write offMSNBC for nothing, by the way.

(01:57:08):
A reminder that the MS andMSNBC stands for Microsoft.
So when you hear anything aboutpro-vaccines and all this and
pro-eugenics, the GatesFoundation fingerprints are all
over that and the reason why henever got bad publicity.
So those companies MSNBC, cnnthey're dead.

(01:57:29):
Those companies MSNBC, cnnthey're dead.
There's no appetite for them.
And sort of especially sidenote, if RFK Jr does sign the
legislation to ban themainstream media or to ban
pharmaceuticals from advertisingon mainstream media, which he
has considered doing, the UnitedStates and New Zealand are the

(01:57:50):
only two countries that allowdirect-to-consumer advertising
from the pharmaceutical industry.
If they get rid of that, theregoes 60% of the ad revenue for
mainstream media news as well.
So that would just cut off thelifeblood to them.
So they're either dead or insome sort of zombie state right
now.
The next tier, the tier thatthey've been planning for, is

(01:58:10):
now what David Icke has calledthe mainstream alternative media
.
This is the Daily Wires of theworld.
Tim Pool's, all this group,anybody who's had a picture
taken with Netanyahu all right,that's Jim Hoff, joe Hoff,
gateway Pundit guys that getthose pictures, breitbart
sitting around a table withNetanyahu back in early 2000s

(01:58:31):
all those guys.
You can see that influencethere.
So it's the next level down.
It's oh, I'm not with the CIAanymore, sean Ryan.
I just have this great studioand I'm against the CIA, but I
fly in all these people and wetalk about all these interesting
narratives and we're definitelynot spooks or anything like
that.
So there's the podcasting worldthat's getting infiltrated,

(01:58:52):
which we knew would happen.
Actually, we sort of thoughteither it was going to happen
that way or they would justthrow us off, which may happen
eventually.
But so it's the new version.
I'm not turning on my TV to getthe news anymore, I'm turning
on my computer.
So it's not the mainstreammedia anymore, it's something
else.
Well, but is it something else?
Because it feels very much likea new version of the mainstream

(01:59:14):
media, allowing the dialogueand discussion to happen within
the accepted parameters, notallowing anybody outside of that
to talk about real things andto have these sort of fake
fights in there.
Then there's us.
Then there's the actualalternative media, and I say
that we have a big opportunityhere, because there are a lot of
people that are, I consider tobe, media, information, news

(01:59:38):
free agents.
They're looking for information.
They know that the corporatemedia is compromised.
They don't trust them anymore,be that after COVID or after Joe
Biden is healthy, or Kamala'sfilled with joy, or whatever it
is, they just watch this andthey go.
None of this is true.
You guys are just liars.

(01:59:59):
I need information, and I don'tknow where to get it, and I
don't need to be told how tofeel, because I can make up my
mind on how to feel.
I just need to give me theinformation and I'll decide how
I'm going to interpret this, andthat is a huge opportunity for
us.
It's part of the reason why theactivist post purchase, for me,

(02:00:23):
was timely, because I felt likethis is going to be a pivotal
platform.
It's going to be a place that Iknow I can send people, all of
us can go to get information, toget news articles that you're
not going to see anywhere else,articles about things that are
18 months early before they're.
You know, we'll talk about themat the dangerous time.

(02:00:45):
It's one thing when TuckerCarlson's like you know, I have
questions about these vaccinesin 2025.
You go, yeah, well, where wereyou in 2021 when we were doing
it and we were gettingdeplatformed and all of this
stuff?
So, so some of it is theinformation that you put out.
But, tony, another part is thetiming of which the information
is put out.
Are you putting it out when itmatters most?
Are you putting it out whenit's dangerous?

(02:01:06):
Are you talking about thisstuff when you're in the heart
of it, right in the middle ofall the insanity.
You're calling out masks,you're calling out vaccines and
doing a lot, because we weredoing that and we can show our
track record of starting that upearly in 2020, as soon as the
COVID kicked out.
So for these alternative mediaplatforms, we're going to have

(02:01:27):
an opportunity to grab thesepeople to say come over here,
I'll give you the news.
You figure it out yourself.
You figure out how you feel.
If it does make you angry, tomake you support one side or the
other, that's your decision.
You go off and internalize thaton your own.
We're going to give you theinformation.
I don't have.
I mean as far as activist postgoes, I don't have.

(02:01:48):
I didn't borrow money to buy it.
I bought it with an all Bitcointransaction.
So I have no, nobody standingabove my shoulder saying don't
write, don't put that story out,don't do that, don't let that
person's article get published,censor this.
None of that.
There's no censoring.
If there's any censoring, it'dbe me and I'm not going to do
that.
So I take the articles andrepublish them the way that the

(02:02:11):
writers intended and so thatinformation goes out there
essentially unfiltered, andthat's going to be a huge
opportunity for people who arejust trying to get their
bearings.
So if there's somebody in yourlife who you can kind of reach
and you want to do it in a waythat isn't you sitting them down
and I'm going to let me tellyou, let me lecture you about

(02:02:33):
what's going on in the middleEast, that doesn't work.
Your friends won't, won't likethat.
There'll be, you know they'll,they'll, they'll fight that.
But if you're able to say, hey,send here's an article, check
this out.
What do you think, what do youmake of this?
Hey, look, have you heardanything about this before?
Check out this article aboutwhat's going on with Bitcoin or
what's going on in here we go,what's happening in Africa or

(02:02:56):
what's going on with your health.
So we've got a nice wide varietyhere of topics and categories
that people can tap into.
There's always something goingon over there.
You'll find I added podcasts aswell and, most importantly,
there's a solution section too.
So if you find that all thisinformation is overwhelming and

(02:03:18):
you want to do something aboutit, but you're not really sure
where to start, go to thesolution section.
You can read through a bunch ofarticles there, you can get my
free book, so I think that thiscould wind up being the golden
age for the alternative media.
I mean, I know that there'll bea lot of infiltration.
There'll be a lot of peoplethat you're going to have to

(02:03:38):
keep your head on a swivel tomake sure people aren't getting
paid off, that the person thatyou'd been following all this
time isn't taking pictures withBenjamin Netanyahu at Mar-a-Lago
or wherever.
Uh, but you, you you've got to,you know.
But once you sift through you,I think it's.
I think it's a greatopportunity for us to uh, to
reach a segment of the of of theworld out there who's just

(02:04:00):
looking for information, doesn'tneed the, doesn't need the bias
and we learned a lot from 202021, didn didn't we?

Speaker 4 (02:04:08):
Those of us who were out just way out front talking
about you know the medicaltyranny people like David Knight
I mean, just before anyone elsecalling it the lockdowns and
what was of how my opinionschanged and what I was trying to
discern from it and you haveshows like that.

(02:04:34):
It's such an honor to host forDavid and you know, and then
meeting you and other peoplelike Billy Ray Valentine and Don
Jeffries and others, we justkind of been out in front of a
lot of things.
And then you know, years lateryou'll have these same these now
, these podcasts that are hugeeverywhere that weren't weren't
around.
They're like, hey, have youheard about bill gates getting
farmland?

(02:04:55):
I'm like that was the story wewere covering, that you know,
five years ago, what?
What is it with you guys?
And there's like they tiptoeinto stuff in territory.
That's already been like wealready laid on the barbed wire
and said, you know, run over ourback, you come on, you know
this is, and then these guyskind of just waltz in.
So that is a portion of it.
I think you're absolutelycorrect.

(02:05:17):
And then I love it that you'vedone this with activist posts
and you and I've been talking.

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Speaker 4 (02:06:42):
You know you shared this with me a while ago, so I'm
so cool to watch this be puttogether because I know you and
I know your heart and who youare and why you do what you do
and your passion for it and theconsistency.
And I love this because this iscoming from a place where I
know I can.
If I go here, I know that allthe intention was for me to try

(02:07:06):
to figure out what's going on.
It's just like yesterday,charlie, it's such a teachable
moment.
Like you have the headline ofdrudge, for the minnesota
shooter was the maga maniac andthen you go over to zero hedge
and he's the uh, no, kingskiller.
It's literally two separatethings at the same time and I'm
like, well, let's figure outwhat this even means.

(02:07:28):
And somewhere in the middle isthe truth.
Probably, um, but not I meanthis extremes of like something
that drudge does now withwhatever it is, and then you
just can't trust it all that.
You're exactly right.
People just want to.
Can you just tell me what'sgoing on without lecturing me?
I just want to know what's theintelligence?

(02:07:49):
Let me make a decision and Ithink what's the intelligence?
Let me make a decision, and Ithink that's what you know.
The the basis for something likeyour activist post is is like
let's get the best Intel.
I want to make better.
That's the reason I do what Ido, like whether my show is, you
know, it's parapolitics andit's I do precious metals
analysis and I do Bitcoin and dothat macro economic stuff, big
picture.
That's what I like to do, and Ido it to try to figure out

(02:08:12):
myself what's next, because Ican't control the political
environment.
It's like I've been.
I think at this point we're alot like meteorologists, like
hey, here's a tornado.
You know this is it's going toprobably strike here.
I can't like make the tornadogo away, you know, and I try to.
I try to use that analysis LikeI.

(02:08:33):
Just the best thing I can do istell you what I believe is next
and you can make thosedecisions whatever you want to
react to that yourself.
And so I love this.

Speaker 12 (02:08:44):
Could you imagine someone coming out and screaming
at you though how dare you talkabout the tornadoes?
You know what I mean.
We have to support, we have tosupport.
And you just go.
I'm just giving you the news,I'm just giving you the
information and you deal with ithowever you want, but there's
always going to be theanti-tornado crowd out there.

(02:09:04):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (02:09:06):
It doesn't matter, you see it coming, you call it
that, it's like it doesn'tmatter, you see it coming, you
call it you everybody canclearly see it, but if you point
it out you, you clearly hateweather and you are a tornado on
their way.

Speaker 12 (02:09:20):
I think that's also.
I think that's also sort ofessential for this too, we have
to have a sense of humor.
I know I don't mean this to bedisrespectful.
I mean I know when we'retalking about World War III
there's nothing funny about it,but you do have to get yourself
to a position where you canlaugh at the absurdity of it all
.
I think it helps you process itand I think that for the

(02:09:42):
general public, the normies outthere, as Corbett calls them
you've got to ease them intothis information.
You cannot drop building sevenon them on day one.
It's too much.
You sort of have to start theprocess of for those in our
lives, our orbits, who are nearto us and we want to talk, we

(02:10:03):
want to have these conversationsbecause, much in the same way
we're warning about thetornadoes, we want to warn our
friends and family like hey,this is what we see.
But you've got to do that in avery careful way and I've done
it every wrong way you can do it, including bringing up 9-11 at
Thanksgiving dinner, which Idon't recommend, or sitting
somebody down and saying now letme tell you what's going on and
just opening up like aninformation fire hose.

(02:10:25):
Nobody wants that.
But I'll tell you.
If you can get your familymembers or friends who you want
to connect with to engage withyou on these topics, start
asking them some questions hey,what do you make of this?
Or send them an article fromactivist post and say, hey, what
do you make of this?
You know, look at this, readthis article.
This is this seems crazy, whatdo you think about it?

(02:10:46):
Because a lot of the times,what I've noticed in these
situations is that the personwho I'm trying to connect with
and I asked that question,they've never really thought
about it, they've never reallyverbalized it, they've never
worked it out, if they've eventhought about it at all.
But you get them talking.
What do you?
You know?
I remember I had thisconversation with a buddy of
mine and I, who was a goodfriend.

(02:11:06):
I asked him what do you make ofthe?
Who was a good friend?
I asked him what do you make ofthe statistics of the flu?
Like this was 20, 38 millioncases of the flu in 2018, 38
million cases in 2019, zerocases in 2020.
But then the flu just went away.
I go.
What do you attribute that to?
He goes I don't know masks.

(02:11:27):
I go.
Really, why couldn't we do that?
And so I'm sort of probing toget his level of knowledge on
this.
Don't you find this a littleinteresting that the numbers are
so wonky on this and every nowand then you're well, yeah, it
is kind of weird.
I never thought about that or Inever saw that, or they're
working off of different sourcematerial than we are.
We're used to this information.

(02:11:48):
We're used to the CDC beingliars.
We're used to the White Houseand State Department telling us
that everything's fine when it'snot.
But a lot of our friends, theyhave their heads down, they're
in their nine to five jobs,they're going to work every day
and they haven't really thoughtabout this.
So your boomer uncle that youwant to connect with, you've got
to make it a dialogue, not amonologue, right, you've got to

(02:12:10):
get that open, that line ofcommunication, and get them to
start talking about what it is.
But it's because it's animportant time to reach people,
and you can do it the wrong way,but you can also do it the
strategic way, the right way,and that is to to have the
conversations, and you'll get alot of information from it.
You'll, you'll, you'll find outwhere their level is.

(02:12:32):
You're like, what's, what'sthis guy's baseline level?
Are you understanding where I'mcoming from with this question,
or are you just completely outof it?
And and and, and.
You'll find from time to timethere's some people you can work
on and there's some people thatgo oh, we, I know all about
this.
False flags come and you go oh,my God, I didn't think you.
I thought you were going todismiss me as being crazy Like,
no, no, I know what's happening.

(02:12:53):
So every now and then you'llfind that somebody in your orbit
is a closeted, you knowconspiracy theorist and you and
you get them talking a littlebit.
You pull them aside atThanksgiving dinner and they're
like oh, I know exactly what'shappening here.
And you go okay, you're one ofus.
So start that process of havingconversations with people in
your orbit, people that youthink you can reach.
And because we're going to needthis, we are going to lose the

(02:13:15):
information war if we're notcareful and we're going to get
everybody thinking that WorldWar III isn't just a must, it's
that we should have done itsooner, that we should have
started it years ago, or weshould have taken out Iran when
we had the chance, you know, 10years ago or whatever.
It is no, no, no.
We've got to have theseconversations now because,

(02:13:38):
because the time is.
I feel like the time is runningout for those of us who see
what's happening here Like weare sprinting into a third world
war.
And boy, once that starts, allthe models are incomplete.
You just don't know whereeverything's going to go.
And everything is impacted theeconomy, travel, small business,

(02:14:01):
big business, currency,valuations everything is
connected.
And oil, god.
They shut off the Strait ofHormuz.
20 to 30% of the world's oiland natural gas is coming
through there.
They turn that off all of asudden and oil goes from
whatever it is now 65 a barrelor whatever to 165 overnight.

(02:14:24):
You think that's not going toimpact your little small town
shop, it's going to impacteverybody.
So all of this matters and it'sall connected in this.
And, for those of us payingattention, it's our duty and
obligation to try to wake upthose in our orbit that we think
are able to be awake.
But I'll tell you what, tony, Iput a quote in my octopus book

(02:14:47):
a Navajo proverb.
It says you cannot wake aperson who is pretending to be
asleep, and unfortunately, Ifear that there are a lot of
people in this world who arepretending to be asleep right
now, and that is dangerous.

Speaker 4 (02:15:03):
I think it's a excellent and chilling summation
, my friend, that's where we areand our job.
And chilling summation, myfriend, that's where we are and
our job.
Really, I think trying to talkwith people and not at them, and
the Socratic method, like youmentioned.
It takes more time but it'smore effective than just yelling

(02:15:23):
at somebody, and we didn'treally recover after COVID-19.
I fly around, I travel forbusiness, I show up places.
I think this is not the sameworld and it's not that far away
from the world before, but asfar as timeline, so something
happened.
It's traumatic and that's what.
If this is allowed to happen,and I think you and I agree that

(02:15:44):
the trains left the station fora world war.
It's what it looks like to us.
Unfortunately, I think it willchange a lot of things, and so
we have to, even, we have todouble and triple down to our
commitment to, to analysis andhistory, for the sake of history
, for history's sake, to getthis right, cause you're

(02:16:04):
absolutely I mean correct onthink of the revisionist history
that you get world war ii.
You know, like people, thatthat's the good war, you know,
and if you really break it down,it doesn't make any sense.
But, um, people build theirentire careers off of these
silly narratives and things thatthat aren't correct.
That's absolutely off the markand it's going to cost you more

(02:16:25):
lives like the.
The takeaway from world war iiwas like War II was you can't
have any sort of negotiation.
It's appeasement, peace in ourtime and Neville Chamberlain and
all that stuff, and peopleforget it was England that
declared war on Germany, not theother way around.

Speaker 12 (02:16:43):
Stuff like that.
Yeah, it pays to know what theestablished history narrative is
.
It pays to know what theestablished history narrative is
, and then you've got to unlearnthat and then relearn a
different version, the trueversion of history.
That was something I wasunprepared for.
Once.
I left my schooling, mycompulsory schooling, and got
out into the real world.

(02:17:03):
What I found was that so muchof what I thought I had known
about the history of, of, of ofour world, has been, um, has
been a lie.
And, as they say, history iswritten by the victors and it's
written for a variety of reasons.
And and let's not allowourselves to get seduced into a
third world war, a good war, youknow, the final war, yeah, it

(02:17:25):
might be the final war.
That's the problem.
So I think it's a head on aswivel.
Pay attention to what's coming.
If we get ourselves in ascenario where there is a false
flag event, make sure to connectwith people close to you,
saying this is Chelsea Handlerfrom Dear Chelsea.

Speaker 8 (02:17:43):
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Speaker 12 (02:19:01):
You know, let's not be so quick to believe the
official narrative.
Let's examine a little further.
This is how they do thesethings.

Speaker 4 (02:19:10):
Well, tell us what's next on macroaggressions on your
podcast and tell people wherethey can find you.

Speaker 12 (02:19:16):
Well, the Wednesday's episode I had to
re-record.
I recorded it three weeks ago.
I try and get some of mypodcast episodes done in advance
, so I have block out some timeso that I can write, because
it's tough to do both at thesame time.
I want to really kind of get inwriting mode for a new book I'm
working on, so I recorded this,this episode, and I had to

(02:19:36):
rerecord it because between thetime I did it and and now I was
talking about the Summer of Love2025 revisited I was saying
expect chaos in the streets,expect something to kick it off.
Well, and then we got the LosAngeles thing.
So I had to go back in.

(02:19:56):
I had to rerecord the episodeto make it a little bit more up
to the times, because Ipredicted something that was
going to happen.
It wound up happening beforethe episode went out, so you can
catch Macroaggressions whereverpodcasts are served.
We do two a week.
One on Wednesday is a monologue, on Sundays it's interviews.
We have Steve Poikinen on rightnow promoting Third Eye
Carnival in Pueblo Colorado.
The weekend of 4th of July, ifyou're going to be in the area

(02:20:19):
of Pueblo Colorado, we're havingsomething called Third Eye
Carnival.
Again.
This will be the third year ina row at the Blowback Art
Gallery.
It's a great weekend show.
We've got bands playing.
We at the Blowback Art Galleryit's a great weekend show.
We've got bands playing.
We've got live podcasts goingon.
You'll love it.
It's a fantastic place.
If you want to connect with me,macroaggressionsio is the
website to do that and, ofcourse, activist Post.
Activist Post bookmark it.
We didn't make an app for yourphone because we didn't want to

(02:20:41):
centralize control into thehands of Google and Apple in
their app stores, because we sawwhat happened with zero hedge.
So so you're going to have tojust pull it up on a browser on
your phone, but I promise it'llfly.
It works really well.
We rebuilt the whole website,launched it in January.
So, uh, activistpostcom is aplace to do that.
Thanks, tony, for having meback.
I always appreciate our ourconversations.

Speaker 4 (02:21:03):
I do too, brother.
It's always a pleasure.
Charlie and I were texting andjust didn't even mention what
we're going to talk about.
I'll see you tomorrow, I'll seeyou tomorrow.
I'll see you tomorrow.
I'll see you.

Speaker 12 (02:21:15):
Tuesday See you next Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (02:21:19):
Just popped in and we can have these kind of talks.
I love your mind and appreciateall your work.
Let's stay in touch.
I'll see you soon, all right.
Well, folks, we're still live.
Got one hour left here on theDavid Knight show.
Probably so much fun, makesradio easy, makes podcasting

(02:21:40):
easy.
Always got so much to talkabout and references.
If you haven't, I highlyrecommend all of his books, but
the Octopus of Global Controlvery well done and one of the
things that will blow your mindif you get the Octopus of Global
Control and I need to haveCharlie back on just to do a
whole show about it was theBoston bombing.

(02:22:00):
It's the one that happened in2013 or so.
Got to check that out.
There's some interesting,highly interesting tidbits in
there.
All right, as I promised, ifyou go to my YouTube, if you go
to at Tony Harderburn andsubscribe I don't know how long
they'll let me run it there, butit's fun.

(02:22:22):
I just I didn't know that therewasn't one under my name, so I
grabbed it and I generally willdo a live show, my radio shows
there.
I might do america unpluggedthere, but if you want to join
that and join the chat this iskind of an ask me anything,
we'll open it up.
You want to talk about gold,silver, bitcoin, geopolitics,
history, anything?

(02:22:43):
Uh, you can throw that in thelast hour.
I thought that would be fun.
Uh, here for the last hour.
I'm going to host for a while.
I don't know when I'll be back,hopefully sooner than later.
It's been too long since I wentthe last time, but always a
pleasure.
So if you want to hit that,anything that, let me go, and
I'll have to go back and forthbetween.
So, whatever, for whateverreason, rumble today, when I go

(02:23:05):
back and forth between it, itplays the show.
Today, when I go back and forthbetween it, it plays the show.
Like, I have to like stop theaudio.
So if you're on rumble, um, youwant to send some comments and
you certainly can, and I'llcheck that.
Uh, let me see what's going onon rumble.
Um, what a great segment tolove.

(02:23:26):
Having Charlie on wakes mybrain up in the second hour.
Uh, let's see.
Still just waiting on some.
I'll wait on some comments.
You guys, anything on rumble,anything you want to as, uh,

(02:23:48):
cecilia 14, where is that show?
Y'all should talk about the lasvegas shooting.
Yes, we should.
Um, I don't have that show.
I don't.
We haven't done it yet.
I need to do a show on, uh, theboston bombing, but in in
charlie's book the octopus ofControl.
He writes about that.
It's very well done.

Speaker 8 (02:24:11):
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Would you like me to read them?
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Okay.
Johnny says what are thenicotine pouches you had on the
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Walker says 8 milligram.
On nicotine pouches, billy saysI love the mint one.
I like that one.
Walker says me too.
By the way, you both stink atgolf.
L-o-l-o-l, come on.

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Speaker 4 (02:25:32):
Let's see All right, In between questions I will go
and check out this last articleI had up over on luterockwellcom
.
We've got a couple more thingswe can cover, but as you can see
my wheelhouse, I just feel likeevery problem's a nail and I've
got a couple more things we cancover.
But, as you can see mywheelhouse, I feel like every
problem's a nail and I've got ahammer.

(02:25:53):
But it's the most importantstuff War and the financial
system these are the macrothings, what's most changing in
our world and the politics of it.
It's hard to get excited aboutpolitics anymore and when I was
a kid it fascinated me and Iremember being eight years old

(02:26:15):
and I tell this story, I've toldit many times, but being eight
years old watching the vicepresidential debates between
Lloyd Benson and Dan.
Quayle, now Lloyd Benson, was aTexas Democrat senator.
He was the vice presidentialcandidate running in 1988 with
Michael Dukakis and againstGeorge HW Bush, you know, said

(02:26:46):
something about John F Kennedyand Lloyd Benson said I knew
Jack Kennedy.
Jack Kennedy was a friend ofmine, senator.
You know Jack Kennedy.
I watched that.
Eight years old I wasinterested in politics.
I'm not really interestedanymore, mainly because of what
Charlie said, where the majorityof people they don't even poll.

(02:27:07):
Do they even poll for anythinganymore?
Like if you're studyingpolitical science, why, like,
what is the science behind it?
It's just demographics now.
And it's sad because thereshould be you know.
The only way to have you knowany sort of real discourse would
be to have you know a politicalmovement to mean something.
I don't see that really makinga difference and this is

(02:27:32):
lewrockwellcom.
If it's to be war with Iran, letit be the war that nobody comes
to.
This is by Caitlin Johnston.
Let's make this clear If the USbombs Iran, iran will kill US
military personnel in response.
If this happens, it will not beIran's fault that those

(02:27:52):
military personnel died.
It will be Trump's fault.
It will be the fault ofeveryone whose decisions led to
the attack which resulted intheir deaths, and they will have
died for nothing.
Anyone who dies in a war withIran will have died for nothing.
They will not have diedfighting for anyone's freedom.

(02:28:13):
They will not have diedprotecting their country.
The warmongers andpropagandists will try to spend
their deaths in this way, butthey will be lying.
The bereaved parents andpartners of those who die will
also try to frame their deathsin this way, but they will only
be fooling themselves becausethe truth will be too painful to
bear.

(02:28:37):
I quoted that article that Iwrote 10 years after the war in
iraq, the first article I everhad published and I quoted the
philosopher nietzsche, who saidthat most of us rarely have the
courage for what we already know.
You already know that it's bad.
You're trying to frame thingsand it is sad.

(02:28:59):
As a combat veteran, because Isympathize so much with people
that I've served with, they haveto frame it in a way and that's
fine, you know, do what youneed to do, but that is the
truth.
Like anything that happens fromthis point on, you'll die for
nothing, unfortunately, becauseit has nothing to do with

(02:29:21):
American security or Americanprosperity, or the Constitution
or the Bill of Rights, or yourfamily's safety.
As a matter of fact, it makesit worse, ironically and sad,
sadly, tragically and the truthis is that everyone who dies in
such a war will have diedbecause a few powerful people

(02:29:43):
made some extremely evildecisions out of their own
self-interest and for no otherreason.
She goes on to say do not jointhe US military, do not join the
militaries of any nation whichnormally participates in
America's wars.
If you are in those militaries,you should get out by any means
necessary, as quickly aspossible.

(02:30:04):
If, further on down the track,there is a draft for a war with
Iran, you should dodge the draft.
You should absolutely do that,because I'm going to remind you
of the genesis of what justhappened.
See, they'll be swept under therug, right?
Gore Vidal called this theUnited States of amnesia, but he

(02:30:28):
was an old, he was the gay, patBuchanan if you will but he was
very much an old republicstylist of anti-war.
He's anti-war left.
Which where are you guys?
It's like there's more Bigfootsightings and literally more
actual footage of UFOs than theanti-war left.

(02:30:50):
I haven't seen you guys inforever because you got the
spirit of the Jacobin.
You got that operator speak.
I know you guys now and it'sfunny because I talked about
that yesterday with the no kingsprotests and stuff.
They have the spirit of therevolutionary.
They don't have the spirit ofthe anti-war.
They don't have the same liberalmindset.
Going back to Howard Zinn, whowrote the People's History of

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the United States, howard Zinnwas a thoughtful man.
I mean you can't agree witheverything he said, but as a
left-winger, who speaks for theleft anymore?
Howard Zinn, he was the firstbombers in World War II winger,
like one of the who speaks forthe left anymore, it's like
howard zinn uh was one of.
He was the first uh bombers inworld war ii.
That was the end of the war.
They'd already won, but he, hissquadron, carried out dropping

(02:31:38):
the first jellied gasoline onpeople and it was also known as
uh became known as napalm duringthe vietnam war and that so
affected him and like he wenthome and became a history
professor and but yeah, that'syou know.
He wrote against uh governmentoverreach and uh, you know, war

(02:31:59):
the, the national security state.
They don't do that anymore.
On the left.
I don't know what the leftactually is anymore.
It's like a death cult.
But the right's not helpingitself either.
They're stuck in the middlesomewhere between these two
clowns.
If you fight in such a war,you'll be fighting for nothing.

(02:32:23):
If you die in such a war, youwill die for nothing If you lose
your limbs in such a war, youwill lose your limbs for nothing
.
If you suffer permanent braindamage in such a war, you will
lose your mind for nothing.
Even if you manage to survivesuch a war your body and brain
intact, you will live the restof your life with the knowledge

(02:32:44):
that you kill human beings fornothing, that you kill human
beings for nothing.
Read this on Fox News.
You know, giddy one of thedisgusting things and you talk
to people like Charlie and I tryto be as thoughtful as I can.
I don't want clicks and I don'treally care about followers or

(02:33:06):
anything, so I'm fine.
So I just do the best analysisthat I can on my shows, just for
me, like this is literally likea support group, like I do this
for myself and I do this foryou and I do this for I mean.
It's like I try to give back.
It's symbiotic.
But every once in a while youthink about it, like I just

(02:33:27):
talked with Charlie about, andhow psychotic you have to be to
be ramping this up right now.
Like what kind of sick, sickperson would be wanting to throw
us into some no-win,unconstitutional war for the
state of Israel.
That's what it is.
Israel attacked Iran and, bythe way, even if they didn't, it

(02:33:49):
has nothing to do with Americansecurity.
We let people every day walkacross, waltz over the border,
trafficking children and drugsand whatever.
I mean not that I care aboutdrugs, but I care about American
security.
I care about what thecriminality on the side, I care
about the ecological damagethat's happened on the southern.

(02:34:11):
I care about my country.
I care about the rule of law.
What are we doing all this for?
That just happens, but we'regoing to do something about over
there which is infuriating, andthe mere fact that you have so
many in high levels that haveweaseled their way up there they

(02:34:34):
get to pull these leversagainst the wishes of the
majority of American people isan affront to my sense.
You know, veteran cemeteriesare packed full of people that
thought they were defending theConstitution Some of them are
people that I miss every singleday and they believed in

(02:34:56):
something, and then these peoplejust throw us into it's
unforgivable.
It really is and there will beconsequences Like this is the.
When you throw this into thematrix of things like there's a
ripple effect and it will haveunintended consequences.
But it's good that we have theorigin story.

(02:35:19):
I'm paying attention, I amawake for this one.
I'm awake.
I know exactly same as whatCharlie's saying with the Nimitz
.
You know same thing thathappened to the USS Liberty.
It doesn't have to have thesame kind of thing.
History doesn't repeat itself,but it rhymes.
I am awake for this one.

Speaker 8 (02:35:37):
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Optimum store today term supply see optimumcom for
details.
So there's a stanza from carlsandberg's the people.
Yes, which is the.
This is which has been bubblingaround in my consciousness a
lot lately.
the little girl saw her firsttroop parade and asked what are
those soldiers?
What are soldiers?

(02:36:50):
They are soldiers.
They are for war.
They fight.
Each.
They fight.
Each tries to kill as many ofthe other side as he can.
The girl held still and studiedDo you know?
I know something?
Yes, what is it?
You know, sometime they'll givea war and nobody will come.
Yeah, that's always been thequestion.

(02:37:12):
What if they threw a war andthen none of us showed up?
If the US directly attacks Iranand it's looking increasingly
likely that it will Iran can beexpected to kill as many US
soldiers with powerful attackson US military bases that were
within striking range of itsmissiles.
If that happens, the US can beexpected to launch a full-scale

(02:37:34):
regime change war on Iran.
If that's to be, then let thisbe the war that nobody comes to,
because the alternative is tofight and die in a stupid war
waged by evil people for nothing.
And if you say now I know who'son the Epstein client list,
anybody who supports this inpublic office or that has

(02:37:59):
influence, there's your de factoEpstein client list.
Because nobody, no rationalhuman being, nobody who knows
anything about history, wouldsupport this and you will see
your favorite politicians andlike all your heroes.

(02:38:19):
This is like I'm from being fromTexas.
It's exhausting sometimesbecause we have the worst people
like the worst politicians.
They have the best people butthe worst.
It doesn't reflect texas like Ijust meet the people that would
you know farmers and ranchersand small business owners and
hard-working people, and it'slike you meet and then you see

(02:38:40):
the politicians and you're allright.
Well, that's caitlin johnstonladies and gents, excellent
piece.

(02:39:02):
I'm gonna let's see if you guysgot any.
We're still gonna make.
Uh, still want to do the ama.
We're still going to make.
Still want to do the AMA.
Twisted Communicate said makeTony's bookshelf great again,
did it?
Am I in decline?
I keep pulling books off of itand it's.

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My studio needs a facelift.
Melissa set this up for me in2020 and.
I have.
I'm not maintained it well, andthen I've got.
You should see the, the.
If you could see the front ofwhat I'm looking.
And that's like all thisequipment that doesn't work.
I'm running everything off ofrunning everything off of a
laptop.

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A twist to communicate.
Tony bookshelf does not receiveIsraeli money.
This is great.
Anything you guys want to talkabout on the chat, you go to the

(02:40:04):
Rumble chat.
That's probably the best placeto go.
If you got anything you want toask me you want to put in the
chat, I'll talk about it.
Uh, wise wolf gold representlove.
That silver, but brit one tenthout you sent me last year,
brother.
Oh, appreciate you, that'struth.
Speaker 1977, gar goldsmithsays I can't wait for char

(02:40:29):
Charlie's new book.
Octopus was fantastic.
Wasn't it though that's such agreat book.
Uh, it's one of those bookslike when you're in alternative
media, that when you need tokind of like reframe your mind,
like right now I need to kind ofgo back to the catacombs, go
back to source and start rereading some, some of those,
those works like charlierobinson and don jeffries and

(02:40:52):
david ike and things carlgoldsmith said.
Uh, oh yeah, uh, tony junebug,governor, else the bookshelf
doesn't have war as a racket ondisplay.
It used to, and I don't know,maybe it's, but I've gotten it
off before and I can pulled itand read from it.
And that's you guys.

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My life can be chaoticsometimes.
Garden says one more book willfit on tony's bookshelf
charlie's next yeah, one more,just one more.
I have a question, tony gold, isthat a green screen, bro, like
me on a green?
No, this is just my bookshelf,this is just me.

(02:41:35):
Um, I have a green screen intexas.
I sometimes use the uh backdropto uh war games, though, of
norad.
Uh, that's, that's fun.
Tony, how is ai impacting thegold and silver space?

(02:41:56):
Oh that I read an article aboutthat uh last week on my show
and it's going to increase theprice of commodities because it
again like the fiat systemfalling apart and I think
commodities will go up.
But that.
But it's also the robotics andother things that the industries
that will be produced by AI,machines and other things,

(02:42:20):
supposedly is going to drive theprice of everything up.
There's, you guys got an activechat.
Oh, boogeyman ketchup says Tony,do you still do heavy squats?
No, I do squats, I do.

(02:42:41):
This is a fun question.
I do deadlifts.
Yesterday I did deadlifts.
My hip flexors are so sore.
I've been working on that.
But no, I do.
Like the Hatfield squats whereyou got the weight kind of the
more positioned out front.
I'll do front squats.
I don't do them heavy anymore.
I could, but it's just notconducive to anything.

(02:43:03):
We can go.
All kinds of topics, guys,that's fun.
Yeah, truth.
Speaker1970 says silver havinga nice run today.
It is having a nice run today.
It is having a nice run today.
What's silver doing?
We're just over 37.
Yeah, it was over 37, backunder 37, but it's still.

(02:43:25):
I mean it's staying strong.
You probably got some profittaking.
Let's see I've got back over onYouTube.
Let's see I've got back over onyoutube.
I have always considered ourfreedom comes from the millions
of people owing millions of arms, owning millions of arms, not

(02:43:45):
from the wars fought to makeevil men rich.
I hate that so many fought,killed and died for a lie.
I do do too.
This is from Denny.
Yeah, that's that one thing.
Right, we still are an armednation.
We still have the SecondAmendment.
We still have the right to keepand bear arms.
That does for the security of afree state.

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Right, that is necessary andthat has been a bulwark against
globalist tyranny and that'ssomething that we can make a
difference on and has been abulwark against globalist
tyranny and that's somethingthat we can make a difference on
.
It's like, as far as gunownership and things like that,
that's still something you canmake an absolute difference on,
and free speech is another thing.
I think there's been someimprovements on speech over the

(02:44:29):
last six, seven years.
I'm proud of that.
I think there's been some good,there's been some things happen
that are good and there's beenprogress.
But then we get into situationslike today and you just can't
get drowned by the partisanshipof it.
You have to step back and callit for what it is, and I think

(02:44:50):
that's absolutely necessary andit's okay.
There's always going to bechallenges and I think it makes
you better If you met noresistance.
That's the thing about becomingthe optimal self.
If you don't have resistance,then you won't If you don't have
anything pushing back againstyou.

(02:45:12):
It's arguably something thathappened during the cold war.
This was america part of itsbest self in some of those times
, you know, or did it representthe best of its ideals because
of and you can argue, look, Iknow you can argue all things
about the fakeness of it, but Ithink at some time it was.

(02:45:33):
You know what the america of1985, of, of rocky four.
That's a completely differentamerica, don't you think?
You know the way that it wasrepresented, at least when I was
a kid, and what it looked liketo me and the ideals of it, um,
and I think that it spawned fromentertainment, it spawned from

(02:45:53):
popular culture, from frompolitics at the time, and it's
not perfect, but it seemed a lotmore cohesive.
Of course, it was a differentcountry then.
I mean you could have,demographically, you could have
the Reagan Democrats and Reaganwins, 48 states in 1984.
That would never is anybodycarrying 48 states ever again,
probably.
And they'll be blue, you knowit'll be whatever blue means to

(02:46:16):
you.
But that's just because ofdemographics.
Interesting times, folks.
I'm going to continue.
There's another article I wantto read.
I'll go back and forth to thechat we got about.

Speaker 8 (02:46:37):
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Speaker 4 (02:47:42):
This was.
This was fun today.
This again, I'm going to keepyou in the wheelhouse of the
monetary system, global finance.
I can't really announce whatI'm going to call the new show
yet.
I don't want to.
I need to have everything drawnup before I do that, but you
guys are going to love it.
I need to have everything drawnup before I do that, but you
guys are going to love it.
And we're going to do a weeklybroadcast that is in conjunction
with a newsletter, and thenewsletter will go out the same

(02:48:03):
day and we're going to coverthose articles that are in the
newsletter and it'll beinteractive.
So we'll put that out to our.
It's a free.
Nothing will ever be behind apaywall with me, but we're
working on that, that behind thescenes, so you guys stay tuned
for that and that's going to be.
That's going to be a greatproject.
That'll be, I think, thebiggest thing I've done so far.

(02:48:23):
Um, in my podcast, because we'regoing to be on every channel
and it's geopolitics somewhat,but it's mostly precious metals,
bitcoin, monetary system, uhsystem, intel and open source,
and I think that will hopefullykeep us from having to suffer
too much against censorship orgetting banned so we'll be able

(02:48:46):
to reach more people becausewe're going to be covering these
macroeconomic topics.
But you guys know my background.
You can always check in on likeArterburn Radio Transmission or
Paratroother, because you knowthat's also my other wheelhouse.
My origin is out of theconspiracy theory of history,
because that's where scholarshipis.

(02:49:07):
I didn't get into the realm ofconspiracy by wanting clicks.
I got there by reading a lotand thinking and then seeing how
things work.
It's just evidence-based.
Conspiracy theory is justgrown-up time.
That's what.
That is All right.

(02:49:28):
This is Zero Hedge today.
Gold, the global financialsystem's lie detector.
The Global Financial System'sLie Detector that's a little
question mark there Authored byMatthew Pipenberg, via Von
Gehr's.
Gold Is gold, calling out abroken financial system.

(02:49:54):
It's funny because I've usedthis same rhetoric Early this
year.
I was asked to give my mostheretic opinion about the global
financial system.
This was an unusual yet boldquestion and after a brief pause
I answered that the entiresystem was well a lie.
This may seem like asensational response and an

(02:50:14):
industry sometimes prone to thesensational.
However, if we look at somestubborn facts, the answer is
truer than it's extreme when itcomes to a financial system
rotting from within.
The Botox-like beauty of aballooning S&P and centralized
credit market hides an aging anddecrepit disease.
Credit market hides an agingand decrepit disease.

(02:50:39):
That is policy.
Lies like Botox can't hidereality forever in the evidence
of a fatally debt-sick system.
Hiding financial truths and theforked tongues and euphemistic
lingo is literally all around us.
Euphemistic lingo is literallyall around us.

(02:50:59):
This is from the very era of mybirth.
The list of lies is almostcomical and this has a picture
of Nixon saying your dollar willbe worth just as much as
tomorrow as it is today.
It wasn't, though, that august15th 1971 um no, it wasn't.

(02:51:26):
You know what's funny is by,and I don't take pleasure in
this, but I could.
He had john connelly was his uh, secretary of the treasury.
John connelly was in the car.
He was governor of texnolly wasin the car.
He was governor of Texas.
He was riding in the car withKennedy.
That's where you get the magicbullet theory, and I was joking,
you know.
He created the magic monetarytheory and the magic bullet

(02:51:47):
theory at the same time, youknow, separated by less than 10
years.
So 1971, he's Nixon's treasurysecretary.
Nixon was in love with him Likethis.
This is the greatest thing, Ithink.
By the early eighties, though,john Connolly had filed for
bankruptcy, and it's, you know,nothing wrong with sometimes
having to file for bankruptcy,but you know there's kind of the

(02:52:08):
doesn't make you like Lord offinance, not to say that I am,
but I wasn't secretary of thetreasury either.
Finance, not to say that I am,but I wasn't Secretary of the
Treasury either.
In 1971, for example, when Nixondecoupled the dollar from gold,
thereby allowing his own andfuture administrations the
unfettered luxury and sicknessof expanding, debasing the money
supply.
He promised the measure wouldbe temporary and that our dollar

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would be worth just as muchtoday as it is or tomorrow as it
is today.
Both statements, of course,were open lies.
Fifty years later, the dollarremains unchaperoned to gold and
when measured against amilligram of that same precious
metal, the USD and other majorfiat currencies, it has lost 99%

(02:52:55):
of its purchasing power.
And that's the experiment andwhat I've been talking about.
And I think I can continue topay attention to that, because
that's the big story, and maybeit's just me, maybe it's just
that I'm interested in it, but Ithink it's bigger than me.
I think it's bigger than whateven we give it credit for.

(02:53:17):
It's not just about having ahigher price in your silver or
having a higher price in yourgold or your Bitcoin or
something like that.
This is a monetary revolutionof the highest order.
So we're literally watchingsomething of major historical
importance, possibly the biggeststory, and it will change

(02:53:40):
everything.
And, like I said earlier in theshow, I mean that is the big
question.
It's like what will they do?
They can't do what they'redoing forever, so it has to
change or you have a completeimplosion of the entire system
itself, like the death ofcurrency.

(02:54:04):
The difference between currencyand money is the magic trick
Because, just like this articlementions 1971, you go off the
gold standard Gold's $35 anounce on August 15th 1971.
You end the decade 1979, aboutthe time I was born gold's close
to $800 an ounce.
And that's in 1979 dollars.

(02:54:26):
I don't think we've reachedeven parity of then as far as
purchasing power is concerned,and that's what happened to the
dollar.
There was a lot of effort thatwent into putting that aside and
buying some time, but whateverwas accomplished inside this

(02:54:46):
past 54 years, it is, I think, areckoning that's happening.
Meanwhile, gold is risingfaster against the USD and other
world currencies as theirpurchasing power is diluted by
desperate policies to inflateaway their debt with debased
currencies.

(02:55:06):
That's the thing.
It's worldwide.
Folks.
Don't just forget about thedollar.
You should look at evenunderstanding what's happening
to the Bank of Japan.
If you go on the Twitter handleGold Telegraph, he brings that
up a lot what's happening withthe Japanese yen, and that's

(02:55:31):
another lesson in centralizedcontrol of central banking and
fiat currency.
And then what ends up happening?
You talk about deficit spendingand borrowing and the owning of
government debt by the centralbank and it's just a snake
eating its own tail.
And that's why you look at theprice of gold or something that

(02:55:56):
is a hard asset or somethingfinite like Bitcoin, it's hard
not to see the dichotomy there,like one's going one way, one's
going the other, and you can seelike the big capital starting
to trend into a new monetaryorder based off order Lying to

(02:56:20):
our founding fathers.
It's also worth noting thatfiat paper dollar unbacked by
gold is a direct contradictionto our Constitution and, in my
mind, is itself just another lie.
Wilson's Fed, woodrow Wilson.
But long before the lies of1971, let us not forget the lie

(02:56:42):
of 1913, when Wilson signed anequally unconstitutional Federal
Reserve into law, a so-calledindependent bank, which is
anything but independent.
It's effectively a fourthbranch of government and is
neither federal nor a reserve.
It runs things.

(02:57:02):
Folks put it that way and theywere even asking like, can that
should be a big tell for you ifyou're like an establishment
hack?
It's like well, uh, canpresident trump not fire jerome
powell?
Like we don't even know what hecan do?
Well, an establishment hack?
It's like well, can PresidentTrump not fire Jerome Powell?
We don't even know what he cando.
Well, that's interesting.
I thought this was a part ofthe government.

(02:57:25):
I think the president, by itscharter, gets to appoint a new
head of the Federal Reserve orgets to select from a group of
people like in name only right.

Speaker 8 (02:57:40):
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connection.

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Terms apply.

Speaker 4 (02:58:32):
To, yeah, to the Fed, the president's like, whatever
the king of or?
Queen of England.
England is to the parliament orsomething Like.
There's a figurehead, larrySummers.
Fast forward to the greatfinancial crisis of 2008, which
was effectively amortgage-backed security credit
implosion driven by anunregulated derivatives market.

(02:58:54):
And we see even more staggeringdishonesty.
A decade before this leveredcredit implosion, treasury
Secretary Larry Summers wascalled to Congress to answer
Brooklands-Bourne's concern, asthe head of the CFTC, that these

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derivative instruments, if leftunregulated, would destabilize
markets.
Summers publicly embarrassed,born and then told the world
that the bankers in charge ofthese OTC instruments of levered
destruction were more thansophisticated enough to manage
the risk.
Of course, by the 2008 marketimplosion, we all know that

(02:59:36):
assertion was a lie.
That was a weird time, becauseso much was out in the open that
even as a 28-year-old I waswatching.
I was like that can't be right.
That can't be right.
The markets aren't that strong,they're not doing well.
And then you just see thesefinancial analysts saying it's
great, it's great, everything'sfine, it's all very sound.

(02:59:56):
And then Bernanke, yellen andPowell.
We all also know that when themarkets tanked in 2008, thanks
largely to Mr Summers'deregulation fiasco, bernanke's
subsequent promise that themoney printing which followed

(03:00:19):
and he said counterfeitingeuphemistically called
quantitative easing that wasreferenced here was Bernanke,

(03:00:43):
and I remember the price of goldwas hitting a close $2,000.
Now he calmed everybody down.
That's when silver hits last$50.
That was 2011.
Calmed everything down Won'thappen again.
Calmed everything down won'thappen again.
It says QE1 was soon followedby QE2, qe3, qe4, operation
Twist and then the unlimited QEby 2020.

(03:01:03):
That's unlimited, but such liesare nothing new to central
bankers.
Remember Yellen?
It says you will never seeanother financial crisis in your
lifetime, janet Yellen, springof 2018.
See another financial crisis inyour lifetime, janet Yellen,
spring of 2018.
I do not worry that we couldhave another financial crisis.
Janet Yellen, fall of 2018.

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Wow, oh, this is so much fun.
He's breaking it down.
All right, I'll see what elseis in the chat before.
I don't want to let the clockrun out too far.
Let's see, this is a twistedcommunique.

(03:01:53):
If Rambo, waylon Jennings andDavid Knight had a nephew, his
name would be Tony, and bluecollar Eric says bookcase Tony,
ain't that tough.
I like you, blue collar Eric, Iain't that tough, but twisted
communique.
It's very kind, sir, I wouldnever claim to be tough.
It's hard to be, it's hard tolook tough when you walk around

(03:02:14):
with a Chihuahua.
Um, it's kind of funny.
It's kind of incongruent, um,but hey, it's trying to figure
that out.
You know what am I?
What am I trying to communicatewith?
Uh, walking around with myChihuahua all the time?
Uh, it's my best friend.
Again, if you want to throwsome questions out to me, you're

(03:02:37):
definitely welcome to.
As we close out, we're in thelast uh 21 minutes of the show.
Uh, professor sdn, where'sdavid knight?
He's taking some time off hisconvalescing sir, he's uh, he's
just getting better, ready tocome back back to his own show.

(03:02:58):
I'm just keeping the chair warmfor him, the best of my ability
.
That's over there on my ex orTwitter, or whatever it's called
.
I don't like rebranding.
It's like when they did the newCoke, remember that in the 80s.

(03:03:24):
Let's see uh, tony, how do youdance and still look tough?
Is that?
Are you?
Is that a?
Is that a real question?
Like a, do I, or like you, talkabout the dancing israelis?
Do they look tough to you?
Um, I'm not sure I dance thatmuch.
Is that fun?
That's Patrick Swayze.
I don't know, can you dance?

(03:03:44):
I don't know, can you still betough and you can two-step.
Is that a thing?
I think you can be somewhat?
Is that acceptable?
You guys are fun.
You have to go join, you know,go check out America Unplugged's
channel over on Rumble.
If you like Rumble, subscribeto America Unplugged and follow

(03:04:06):
me over on Twitter at TonyArterburn.
I will be live this Thursdayfor the Arterburn radio
transmission.
I go out over WorldwideChristianian radio wwcr.
We do that.
I used to do an everyday show.
I kept a one hour.
It's kind of a remnant, butwe're on episode 506, I think,
coming up.
507, uh, coming up this week.
So, uh, yeah, do, do join.

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And what will you do when thegovernment outlaws gold?
Uh, that's a great question,because I get that all the time
and I don't know, um, the peoplethat kept the gold when fdr
wrote his executive order inapril of 1933, the people that
kept the gold did really well.
You just uh, they just getcaught.

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And because I know that theykept the gold, because I buy
that gold all the time which issome of the funniest things
because the pre-1933 gold coinsare there's still a ton of them
out there a lot of people said,yeah, I'm not doing.
Because you have to think, like, if you're holding that gold
coin and you realize thatthere's a whole wider world out

(03:05:19):
there, and just because the USoutlaws it or something or they
made it illegal for you to hoardand you were able to keep a
certain amount of it, I justdon't fear that as much because
the government's going to dowhat the government does.
But if you read history like Ido, then you find that gold

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prevails, it outlastsgovernments, it outlasts tyranny
, it just outlasts us.
It's God's money and if youwant to call it that, it's not
from a scriptural standpoint, itjust means that it is finite.
Scriptural standpoint it justmeans that it is finite.
It's from um, it's from ourearth or, well, part of it, it's

(03:06:02):
from the formation of it andit'll be here forever and that's
the way it works.
Blue collar eric says tony, youare the man, all jokes aside.
Well, you can joke with meanytime.
I love that.
I'm fine with that as a matterof fact.
I love that, I'm fine with thatas a matter of fact.

(03:06:23):
I had I'll tell you guys astory and it's kind of.
I work a lot on maintaining, Ithink, as I read more understand
about presence and like thepresence of mind, which is which
is, you know, to make gooddecisions and to be in the
moment and to be the bestversion of yourself.
And, uh, you know, we're taught, we teach these, these little

(03:06:45):
boys.
You know when I was taught alot of this stuff.
You know, be a show youremotions, do all this stuff.
Yeah, control, it is actuallywhat you should say.
Um, because it's, it's not as alike, it's something I study a
lot, it's having a presence ofmind and then have just this
internal, trying to be calm.
You know, calm, make decisionsand then not react immediately

(03:07:08):
because you can make betterdecisions.
I don't always do well with thatand maybe 10, 15 years ago, you
know, a comment or somethingset me off.
I'd think about it.
You know, keep me up at night.
No, it doesn't Matter of fact,I was, I had beans with me, um,
and I took her in this littlerestaurant, this little Mexican
restaurant down the street frommy house in Denison, and I just

(03:07:31):
she sits on my lap and just Imean she doesn't do anything,
she just sits there and I'll eata little bit and read you know,
at the end of the day and thisguy had been drinking way too
much, he was a Gulf War veteran.
I found out.
He was telling me where heserved in the Gulf War and he
was a Marine.
And I said oh you look like amilitary man.
I said I am, I just wanted toeat.
He kept going and said whatabout your basic training?

(03:07:53):
What kind of basic training didyou have?
I went in the 80s and you couldstill get hit and beat up there
I said, yeah, I had a toughdrill sergeant in the Army.
I love my drill sergeant.
He was an awesome guy, somebodyI looked up to.
I didn't say much.
The guy kept going.
He said, well, you know.
And then he made the point.
He said if he'd just gonethrough a tougher basic training

(03:08:16):
when they could still hitpeople, he wouldn't need that
dog.
Talking about me Like I was.
I need beans to, like you know,function or something.
And I just thought that waslike 10 years ago.
I might have been like incensedby that I really want to call
him out for because, first ofall, like you know, I did this

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is Chelsea Handler from DearChelsea.

Speaker 8 (03:08:40):
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connection.
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have a solid connection.

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Plus, get a two year price lockand $100 prepaid card.

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Terms apply.

Speaker 4 (03:09:26):
Three wars, you know, and invaded countries.
I mean, it's a little bitdifferent than Desert Storm.
I'm not taking anything awayfrom that, but I don't need my
dog that way.
I want my dog, I hang out withmy dog, and so it made me laugh
and so I think that's where wecan.
I think it's a good thing.

(03:09:47):
I start with that, especiallyif you're watching all these
headlines and yeah, you can bepassionate, but there's a fine
line you get too much, you canget pulled in.
This is exactly what they want.
Let's see Twisted Communique,said the Shaw, said the West

(03:10:10):
installed the Ayatollah.
Will the Ayatollah be taken out, or are we just cleaning house
for him, taking out domesticsecular hardliners?
Oh, that's an interestingquestion.
Yeah, it gives us an enemy too,like the boogeyman 1979, very
critical year.
That's when Saddam Hussein cameto power too.
It's like how far do they planthese things out?

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Yeah, don't take that off thetable.
We just need people to fight.
According to the establishmentGuard Goldsmith says my
grandfather didn't turn in hisgold.
Of course he didn't.
That's fun.
Yeah.

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You guys are great.
Anything else you want to shootmy way go ahead before we close
out Bob Earthday.
Honey Badger said, sadly, thecontrollers will have their war
because they own the government.
Well, they may get their war,um, but I think if we do our job

(03:11:25):
and we talk with people, not atthem, you know, we get
information out.
It's hard to control a populacewho doesn't believe.
You may have it for a while,but you never.
It's one of the things that thecultural Marxists learned when
they were kicked out of Hitler'sGermany in the 30s and fled
here to the United States.
It's known as the FrankfurtSchool, and they were ardent

(03:11:49):
Marxists, you know, and theyjust saw the Soviet Union and
said that's not really what weare.
The people have to obey thegovernment, but they don't
believe.
That's why they started thecultural revolution of cultural
Marxism inside the universities,and that's where you get the

(03:12:09):
1960s.
It was a direct correlation ofthe Frankfurt School and
cultural Marxism, because theywanted to start with the youth
and make them believe it.
But you change your mind andit's hard for this stuff to
stick and I think that a lot oftheir ideology is bankrupt
because of that.
Already I think they've gonetoo far.

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All right, let me finish onemore thing on this article or so
, and then I want to tell youabout some things with david
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We've got a great deal ofpeople watching right now.
I'll talk to you about some ofthe stuff going on, how you can
support David and where you canfind me.
All that good stuff.
Keep this stream going and keepthis stream going.

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This is MMT Modern MonetaryTheory, or, as David calls it,
the magic money tree, forexample.
It's neither modern normonetary, nor a theory.
The fantasy of believing anation can solve a debt crisis
via more debt, which is thenmonetized by creating fake money
, has been tried from ancientRome in 1789 France to 1990s

(03:13:38):
Yugoslavia, but, as historyconfirms, it has failed every
time.
Other such lying euphemisms,from the Patriot Act and the
Department of Homeland Securityto the safe and effective of our
now pardoned trust, the scienceleadership, may be less
economic, but they are also lessdishonest by being far more

(03:14:00):
about centralization thananything patriotic or security
driven in some.
So many lies, so many examples.
Yeah, I've said this for yearsuh, when you and that's why I
call them luciferian banksternotes lb ends, if you're going,
I just I'm betting against thesystem.

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Period end of issue.
I'm betting against it.
I'm betting on like I don't.
I don't hold a bunch of stocks,I don't hold a bunch of
interests, I don't have a bunchof sponsors.
Necessarily I, I sponsor myselfand I'm betting against what
the system has created bygreater than 40% of the US

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population.
Media outlets are owned by justfive megacorporations.
Is it any wonder that such liesas Mark Twain quipped can travel
halfway around the world whilethe truth is putting it on its
shoes?
I always thought that quote wasthe truth, was putting its

(03:15:18):
pants on.
Gold is the ultimate liedetector Toward the end.
We clearly know we are reachingan inflection point in the
global financial system, wheneven the liars have started to
confess the truth, and much ofthe truth is golden.
In recent reports, they warnthe rising demand for physical

(03:15:40):
gold over 2 000 tons from londonto nyc in 2025 could send the
european union into collapse.
Did you see that the europeEuropean Central Bank warned
that gold is a threat to thesystem because gold officially
supplanted the euro as thesecond-held most reserve asset

(03:16:02):
by central banks.
It went from a pet rock to amassive threat to the global
order.
Because you start monetizing ingold and it's a totally
different world and you talkabout budget constraints and
other things.
You have to start showing yourcards.
How much liquidity do you have?

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You have to balance thingsagain.
You just can't go to theprinting press and create a new
war or a new program or haveopen borders and all the stuff
that we do.
It says why Because the Eurozonealready teetering on
skyrocketing debt debts andrising bond yields Hence the
interest rates doesn't have themoney nor the goal to meet their

(03:16:45):
100 to one levered goldderivative contracts, hitherto
floating on the London and NewYork gold exchanges with a gross
exposure of over 1 trillion.
He says yes, one trillion, wow.
Sadly.

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We've been warning of thisderivative time bomb and Comex
insanity for years, yet only nowthe ECB is confessing its
trillion dollar problem out loud.
Well, war covers up a lot.
If you notice the war againstits own people that they carried

(03:17:26):
out in 2020, rockefellerlockstep style, the lockdowns
they're mirroring each otheraround the world doing the same
things, and that was a lot indue to what was happening behind
the scenes, financially as well.
And notice that in 2020, thecurrency injections went from QE

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to QE unlimited, as thisarticle states.
Qe to QE unlimited, as thisarticle states.
Well, excellent piece.
And I do think that this islike the end level of what
Gresham's Law.
Gresham's Law states that whenbad money enters a system, then

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good money goes into hiding andthe end game of that is that the
bad money dies and then you'releft with what we have now.
So that is the changingeconomic landscape.
Ladies and gents, I appreciateall of you being here.
I want to bring up the fact andI didn't do this yesterday I

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want to put this on the screenand that's thedavidknightshowcom
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If you haven't been, if you'renew to the show or you're just
tuning in, this is a good linkto share around, because you can
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You can sign up for any sort ofupdates or news where to watch

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him live.
You can see that the meter isdown as far as the donations and
I heard from David yesterday.
I need to reply to him.
Just got in the studio earlyand I didn't want to.
I don't want to wake him up.
If, uh, it's probably I don'tthink you could wake david up
when I get up he gets up earlierthan me, but I didn't want to

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disturb him.
So you guys check that out.
Hey guys, I hope you can let meknow if you can hear me.
My internet cut off at my officein branson so I've been trying
to come back in for the pastfive minutes so I could close
out the show so I won't have anyof the intros or anything.
If you could let me know thatyou can hear me.
Okay, any of the other sites Ijust need to close out.

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Okay, make sure you guys knewwhere to find me and where to
find David and all the rest.
So if you can let me know onYouTube, that'd be great.
If you can hear me, hopefullyyou can.
It says that you're picking upmy mic.
So anyway, thanks to everybodyfor tuning in.
Sorry about the technicaldifficulties here the last three

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I'm sorry again for thetechnical difficulties, but we

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had a great show and I will seeyou hopefully on Thursday at
Ardaburn Radio Transmission.
Join me over there.
Okay, on Rumble.
You guys take care of eachother.
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