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Carly Ries (00:00):
Ever feel like your
inbox is controlling your life?
In this episode, we dive intothe life changing productivity
method from Getting Things Doneby David Allen. Joe shares his
personal email overload momentthat led him to GTD, breaking
down how this simple yetpowerful system can help
solopreneurs like you eliminatemental clutter, increase focus,
and actually get things done.You're listening to The Aspiring
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So, Joe, I can't believe I'msaying this. Five years ago, you
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reached out to me. We had workedtogether previously in my agency
life. And then about five yearsago, right before everything
happened in 2020, you reachedout saying that you were
developing this really cool app,and it was kind of based on the
idea of David Allen's GettingThings Done. And I remember
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hanging up the phone with youand be like, man, that's a
really good idea for an app.
I also need to read this book,Getting Things Done. I went and
bought it on Amazon. I wentthrough it, and it was such an
amazing Model of productivityand I want to get into that in a
second But I think you have astory around this first and I
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want to hear that and then let'stalk about what GTD is
Joe Rando (02:10):
Well, yeah, this is
something I found because I
needed to find it. And the storyis that a long time ago, I got
to the office, and I had thisplan, what was gonna get done in
the morning, what was gonna getdone in the afternoon, and it
was like, okay. Great. Yeah.Let's do it.
And I sat down at my computer,and for whatever reason, my
email was relatively busy thatday. So the last thing I knew,
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it was 01:30 in the afternoon,and I hadn't done anything but
respond to emails. And I wasjust like so how do you live?
You know, how do you evenfunction in this world with this
stuff coming at you?
And I said, what's happeninghere? Why did this happen? I
thought about it, and the answerwas that when the emails came
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in, I felt like I had to respondto them right away, so they
didn't get buried in my inbox,and that I would miss something
important. So I was a slave toevery incoming email, and
something had to change, and Ikinda looked around, and I'm not
even sure. I think might havefound it in an airport
bookstore, but, you know, Istarted looking for a solution.
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I found this book, GettingThings Done by David Allen, and
it was life changing. I mean,describe it if you want? I mean,
the idea is very, I don't wannasay it's simple, but it's very
logical. So the concept is thatyou have inboxes, Right? So you
have an email inbox.
You can have a physical inboxfor incoming, snail mail. You
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can have other kinds of inboxes,but places where stuff comes in
and gets captured. And then youprocess the things in the inbox
and you make a decision and youeither decide, is this something
that's actionable? If it's not,then it's either something that
needs to be filed or it'ssomething that needs to be put
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in the trash.
So something comes in. Is itactionable? No. Okay. File or
trash?
So if it is actionable, can I doit in two minutes or less? If
the answer is yes, go do it.Just do it right now. Don't do
anything with it. If it's nottwo minutes or less, then you
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either, defer it, basically putit on a list to get done later,
but you have a list of all thethings you wanna get done that
you're keeping, or you delegateit.
You give it to someone elsebetter suited to do it. And, the
idea then is that you've you'vebuilt out this list of things
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that you're gonna do called nextaction, and then you've got this
other list of things you'vegiven to other people that's
called a waiting for list. Andyou keep these lists and you
kind of work through thesethings. And the idea is that
nothing gets lost. Everything inthe inbox gets processed.
Most of it gets deleted. Youknow, it can obviously make
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inbox smarter to get rid of spamand all that stuff and
unsubscribe from emails. Butthis idea of capturing
everything, having this verysimple process for how to deal
with it, really, really, reallymakes life better. And, you
know, some things I didn'treally go into, but some things
go on a calendar, right? if it'ssomething that has to get
deferred but to a specific time,either a meeting or something
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has to be done at thisparticular time that goes on a
calendar. But, like I said, it'snot simple, but it's very
logical and straightforward onceyou get it down.
And, the app that you referredto before talking about getting
things done is still not donefor reasons beyond my control.
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Partially my own doing, butbeyond my control at this point.
The idea of the app was that ittakes some time to maintain this
system of getting things done.And what happens a lot of times
with people is they'remaintaining the system,
everything's wonderful, they getslammed. Something happens, they
get a thing, they get headsdown, they work on it.
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Two weeks goes by, they haven'tmaintained their lists, they
haven't processed their inboxes,and now it all falls apart. So
the idea of the app was to kindof implement this in a way that
didn't cost time. Right? We'vegot, patents on AI for helping
with this stuff. We've got awhole process that basically
lets you kind of implement thegetting things done system
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without having to spend a lot oftime managing the list, updating
things in the list, and thatkind of stuff.
But, the idea regardless, it isworth doing. It's just you have
to be very disciplined aboutkeeping up on it even when
things get busy.
Carly Ries (06:50):
Yeah. I mean, it
clears up mental clutter,
increases focus and efficiency,and just kinda helps you
prioritize things moreeffectively, I'd say. And the
reason why it came up weactually don't talk about GTD
that much in our everydayconversations now compared to
what we used to and we weretalking to Will Christiansen
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about it who is like a greatproductivity and efficiency
guy. We can link to him in theshow notes because we just
interviewed him a few weeks ago,but when he was talking about
it, I was like gosh we thissoundbite episode to be
actionable and informative and Ireally think if people are
struggling with productivitythis book is one of the places
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That they should start. We arenot being sponsored by David
Allen or anything like that Wejust are firm believers that
this is a really helpful toolfor solopreneurs So we'll
include a link in the show noteswhere you can find it, but
definitely worth a read.
Joe Rando (07:47):
Very good. Yeah.
would highly recommend it. If
you feel disorganized, if youfeel like, your desk is a mess
and you don't know what you'resupposed to do next, it's a
really great way to solve thatproblem.
Carly Ries (08:00):
Agreed. And
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