July 14, 2025 • 53 mins
In this powerful episode of The Asset Mindset, Army veteran and burn survivor Bobby Henline shares how he turned unimaginable trauma into purpose and laughter. After surviving a roadside bomb in Iraq that left him severely injured, Bobby found healing through comedy, self-acceptance, and community.
He opens up about the mental health battles veterans face, how humor became his coping mechanism, and why courage isn’t the absence of fear—but moving forward despite it. Bobby also discusses the mission behind his nonprofit, Forging Forward Foundation, and how it empowers veterans and first responders through healing, hope, and humor.
Whether you're a veteran, first responder, or someone navigating adversity, Bobby’s story is a reminder that you can rewrite your narrative, find strength in scars, and laugh your way to growth.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:07 Embracing the Suck: Humor as a Coping Mechanism
08:42 The Power of Humor in Overcoming Adversity
14:47 Courage and the Journey of Self-Acceptance
21:15 Finding Strength in Community and Support
26:31 Setting Boundaries and Surrounding Yourself with Positivity
32:08 Future Goals and the Importance of Legacy
37:58 The Bobby Henline Foundation: Forging Forward
45:23 Final Thoughts: Love Yourself and Live Fully
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Asset Mindset Podcast, bobby.
It is great to have you here.
Man, I can't tell you howexcited I am to have you on here
because I just love yourmindset.
I love your sense of humor, howyou use it to embrace the suck
and overcome things, how youinspire people, how you inspire
me.
It was a pleasure and an honorto work with you and get to know
(00:30):
you in the past and I'm justsuper excited to have you here
on the Asset Mindset podcast somy listeners get to learn more
about the well-done comedian.
So, before I do a big bye oranything, why don't you share
your story a little bit?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, I guess I'll go back and first of all, it's an
honor to be here.
Thanks for having me on we goback to.
I was in Desert Storm.
I joined the Army at 17 yearsold, went to Desert Storm at 19,
got out for 10 years and then9-11 happened.
So I knew I had an experiencethat a lot of young men or women
are about to go through that Istill had a fight in me at 30
(01:07):
years old, couldn't let thathappen to this country and not
do something about it.
So I reenlisted.
October 31st I was back inbasic training.
After five years you got to goback to basic.
So I did basic, I did jumpschool and then I went to 82nd
Airborne.
I did three more tours to IraqIn 2007, my home got hit by a
(01:28):
roadside bomb.
I was the only survivor out offive guys.
You know 18 years ago now and Iknew that I couldn't sit and do
nothing.
I couldn't let them die in vain.
I couldn't waste the life I'vebeen given.
So I just looked up to God andsaid what do I do?
What's my new mission?
Life I've been given.
So I just looked up to God saidwhat do I do?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
What's what's my new mission?
How do I continue on for thosewe've lost?
I really admire that and I lovehow I kind of do the same thing
myself.
I got guys from my unit thatI've lost and those suck days
that you're just like man andit's hard to drag yourself out
of bed or whatever You're like.
You know what no for these guysand what people have sacrificed
(02:11):
.
You know we got to step it upand honor them and I love how
honorable you are and what youdo with your story sharing and
inspiring.
So when do you think youactually developed that mindset?
Or can you walk me and theaudience through embracing the
suck and realizing and havingthat shift in your head where
you decided to be like no, I'mgoing to take a negative and
turn it into a positive?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right, yeah, I think I think I've always kind of had
the mindset in me not knowing it, especially after reading your
book, like wait, that soundslike me.
Did I write this?
It's a.
It was well-written as a childcan read it.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
It was well written as a childcan read it.
Thank you, I appreciate thatYou're welcome.
At first, of course, it wasdifficult Survivor's guilt.
I felt like a burden to myfamily.
(02:53):
I felt useless.
I was like why did God keep mealive?
Why am I still here?
I don't understand.
So I would pray to God everynight just to take me for two
years.
Just, I'm useless, I don't getit.
But I always use that sense ofhumor as a self.
I guess what it's where I'mlooking for, just to defend
myself in a way and help others,not deal with it.
(03:15):
You're going to diffuse themand to help them with the sense
of humor.
So even in the hospital and ICUI would joke to my friends
family.
I would get out of the hospital.
I joke to my friends family Iwould get out of the hospital.
I'd joke with my kids Like Ididn't want them to know the
battle that was going on inside.
That I really didn't want to bethere.
So it was the right defensemechanism just to kind of shield
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what's really going on.
And it took me probably againtwo years.
Like stop praying to God.
I said, all right, what's mynew mission?
Three years before I reallyaccepted what I look like.
When I first got out of thehospital it was really hard.
I mean, I spent six monthsinpatient to get back out there
and see all my stuff.
(03:58):
You know, I had that giant, biggreen footlocker that had all my
stuff that the 82nd had sentback to the house, so it's all
my memorabilia and stuff fromfrom Iraq.
And then, realizing I can't dothis job anymore, I told you
before, in 2004, I went toselection.
I hurt my back because I was anold man trying out, which most
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of us are that try out for us.
We're trying to get out of theregular army.
All I got was bull crap andgetting to real shit.
So my plan was always to goback, go back to selection.
I got back in shape and I wasready to go back to selection.
So even in the hospital I toldmy wife at the time.
I said, yeah, just take someibuprofen, drink some water.
Soon, as I'm better, I'm goingback to selection, my career's
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not over.
So when you realize that yourcareer's over and like it hits
you like it wasn't my choice toleave already, but obviously I
had to that hurt.
That was really hard to dealwith, you know.
And that's when I was kind ofangry and like what is my new
mission?
How am I going to be useful atall?
This is crazy.
Why am I even alive if I can'tbe used to do anything?
(05:03):
But yeah, it took some time andbeat myself up, like we all do.
We all go through taking themeds, taking the alcohol, trying
to submit, submit everything,submit it down and depress it
and control it.
But the best way to control itis to look it straight in the
eye and talk to it, Tame it.
You can't ever get rid of thosebeasts, those demons, but we
(05:26):
can learn to tame them and livewith them.
I don't know if I reallyanswered your question, or if I
just went all over the placethere, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's okay.
It's.
I'm sharing here and we're justbeing real and honest and I
think people relate to thatbecause you know what, not
everybody has it all together.
You know it's part of the humancondition to struggle.
You know, I think exactly whatyou're saying.
You know pain problems.
People try and numb it withdrugs, alcohol.
You know you just don't want tofeel it, you want to be numb.
(05:54):
But I think, like you said, asfar as finding something,
whether it's humor, whether it'sa passion or purpose that you
have that can help tame thestruggles that you have within.
So when did you like reallyacknowledge you said you used
humor for embracing the suck andmaking people feel better
(06:15):
around you?
When did this become a passionthat you're like?
You know what?
I think I can do this and do itprofessionally and help inspire
other people to overcome theirissues or struggles in life.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's all an accident.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
As many things are right In life.
I just mean me.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But when I had my hand for two years before they
amputated it, they kept tryingto fix it.
And so when they finallyamputated it, my occupational
therapist.
Again, I was just using myhumor.
This is two years post-injurythat they amputated, and I'm
just using my sense of humor.
You're going through physicaltherapy, occupational therapy.
It's painful dealing with allthat stuff.
You're joking around to all theother veterans that are in the
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room and just making fun ofeverybody, and myself and the
doctors, the nurses, the OTs,pts, everybody was a target to
kind of get through the day andshe said oh my God, you're so
funny, you got to do standupcomedy.
No, no, no, just don't work onthe outside, you know, just
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making fun of us.
Like, one of the guys was aMarine that lost both legs above
the knee and he's walking forthe first time.
So of's, of course, we're allproud of him.
We're excited, like, oh my God,you know you, you're walking
again.
We saw our brother take sevensteps and then somebody asked
him well, how do you feel?
He's like?
You know, well, half of mefeels like no, no, no, no.
You can't say that anymore,technically.
That's all of you.
(07:41):
You know, that's all of you.
You know, that's like me saying.
On the other hand, it justcertain things just don't sound
right.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
No, that's good.
So that light bulb came on forhumor.
I think we all use it in themilitary.
It's very common.
You know like we bust eachother's balls.
We make jokes, like you said.
You know the Marine amputee andwhat they go through.
You know dealing with thatstuff.
But what do you think makeshumor so special?
To combat these type of thingsor just the suck in life
(08:15):
sometimes?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It just kind of breaks up the monotony of the
suck and just you got to laughat it, because I think it's not
just veterans, first responders,humans.
It's just a human thing to beable to, when you can look and
relax and laugh at what happenedand you realize you can't
change what happened to you, butyou can change how you deal
with it.
First step is to be able tolaugh at it and then put into
(08:39):
action what are you going to doabout it?
You know, are you going to keepmarching forward?
What's your next step?
To find your new mission?
That's what it is a healingmechanism.
It's just a human thing forsure.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, absolutely so.
Do you think it has the abilityto really fight and overcome
the victim mentality?
Because a lot of people in lifehave things happen to them.
You yourself have been through.
You know tremendous things thatvictim mentality of just why me
, or oh this sucks, or oh Ican't anymore because x, y and z
(09:13):
happened to me for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's definitely defense mechanisms that can help
with that.
It's again, it's that firststep, getting through the
process and again, you're gonna,it's never gonna go away.
There's like, oh, I don't look,people think I wake up every
day going, I'm just going to befunny man today, and I don't
ever have a bad day or anything.
I battle it.
I mean, every day there's.
There's a battle.
I got PTSD along with OCD, liketwo things that make me angry
(09:39):
at everybody.
But it's, it's, it's constantbattle.
You're never going to be fixed.
Don't think there's a magicpill.
There's a magic.
Oh, I went to this psychiatristthree times and, um, I got this.
Now I got these tools.
You know you got to keep usingthose tools.
But just having a tool isn'tgoing to fix your house.
You got to get out there, fixthe siding, fix the shingles.
(10:00):
You know the door jam you got.
You got to continue to work onyourself.
That's the analogy I use allthe time.
Is your house?
You know the wiring, theelectronic stuff, that's your
brain, that's the stuff that weforget to work on sometimes.
You know we always see the oh,he needs a hand.
You know those simple things.
Yeah, no definitely.
(10:27):
We battle the wiring up thereall the time, and the mental
along with the physical togetheris how we get through it.
And we know that if, if you goto the gym, you work out or you
run, you walk, you go on a hike,mother nature, these things
help you mentally as well asphysically, for sure absolutely
for the toolbox.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
What I think you just said is super powerful in there
and I want to go back andhighlight it.
As far as there's nothing thatjust makes it go away, whatever
struggle or things, or thatwiring problem that you're
talking about or whatever it maybe, that struggle is always
there.
You don't read my book, theAsset Mindset, and be like, oh,
(11:04):
I know how to be positive,everything's great in my life,
like it doesn't happen.
There's tools, and I love howyou use that analogy.
So let's go into that tamingmore of those problems.
So people realize for youlisteners out there definitely
understand that whatever you'rereading or growth you're doing,
that solution that you've justlearned isn't necessarily a
(11:26):
solution that's going to make itgo away forever.
It's going to tame what youhave.
They're tools for coping and,bobby, just help share the tools
that you have, maybe other thanjust sense of humor and
cracking jokes.
Is there anything else in yourtoolbox?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And you said coping.
That's the damn word I waslooking for earlier.
It's coping mechanism, cause itis, and there's all kinds of
extent, you need different typesof tools.
So it's the comedy writing,obviously.
But I write poetry.
I write poetry about the demons.
I'm battling about things, goodthings, that happened to me too
.
I just get it out.
Mother nature, going on hikes,kayaking, painting.
(12:04):
Mother nature it's's takingyour shoes off and walking to
the grass.
I mean those little things, andjust being present in Mother
Nature is huge.
More tools that I want to workon myself too.
More meditating I'm bad aboutsitting down.
I don't have the patience tosit there.
I'm trying to do Tai Chi now tohelp me focus in the morning
(12:26):
and then go to the gym, kind ofa stretching exercise and
meditation and then work out.
I think that helped me.
More powerful, a little morepowerful only.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You would think I was in the Marines the way I talk.
Hey Army, we aren't ready to beMarines yet, right?
Not quite there.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
If I get an extra chromosome, I'll be there no,
that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, I think one of the things you just keyed on too
is getting out there withnature.
I've seen a theme lately a lotand I want to share it with you
and others, and you're alreadysaying it would get out there in
nature but go take a walk.
Taking a walk is so like getoff your couch, get out of your
house, you don't want to bearound people.
(13:11):
Go out with nature and walk.
You know.
If you want to be around people, go to a mall and walk and
people walk.
You know.
But get out there and move andjust walking gets the blood
flowing, it gets your mindthinking and you can process
stuff so much better.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So I mean Going back to.
I guess I never really answeredthe question, but it was an
accident.
So, because I started doing thejoking around the hospital
stuff, I got talked into doingthe comedy and they'd be like,
wait, this guy's doing comedy.
We want to hear the whole story.
Like, how do you do this?
And so then it just turned intosharing the story, doing the
comedy and people telling methat it helped them.
(13:50):
I was like I'm tired.
I've been doing this for 15years.
You know, I got to take sometime out for myself.
Like, keep going, you justhelped me.
Today you get these messagesthat tell you that it's helping
people.
Because it's always weird tosay I help people, I.
Because it's always weird tosay I help people.
I just tell them my story andthey feel better.
It sounds weird that I havethis power.
You know, I always say thatGod's given me the strength and
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courage to do what I do.
I've learned over time that mypeople tell me that it helps
them.
So I continue to just be me.
Share that, share my struggles,share my awards or whatever you
know, my accomplishments.
Share that too and let themknow, like if this?
I mean, look, I can't even talk, right?
If this dumb guy can do it, whodrove a truck and jumped out of
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airplanes in the military thenyou can do it, it's I hear you
on that one.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
We could all do it.
So I think the big point rightnow, then, is you just keyed on
courage.
Let's talk about courage,having courage and how that can
actually help shape your futureand for the listeners out there,
you know you need to becourageous.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Having courage doesn't mean you're not scared.
That's what you're scared, butyou're doing it anyways.
You're going to take thosesteps forward.
You realize there's fear inanything you do, especially if
you're not used to doing it.
Never done it before it's scaryout there.
You're scared about failing.
It's okay to fail.
That's how we learn right.
I used to say that when I rodeBMX when I was a kid Failing
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only leads to the big payoff.
Eventually you nail that jumpright, you win the race, but it
comes with scratches and scarsand brain damage.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, and you have the wounds but you learn from
them and it toughens you up andyou learn how to deal with stuff
.
I always think when you havefear, it's an opportunity to be
courageous and brave and thatmeans something great is going
to happen.
So if you're dealing with fearin life, don't think that that's
the end.
That's the beginning.
You know when you can breakthrough that fear, imagine how
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good you're going to feel whenyou really had that, Like you
said, you looked in the mirrorand you could finally accept
yourself.
That must've been a huge momentwhen you can break through that
.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Oh yeah, I was insecure, even though I never
let anybody else know it, butit's like I look, so I look.
I look pictures of me beforenow.
I'm like that guy looks weird,and I teased my mom too, because
I still look like her.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So I don't know what that's saying oh, bobby, she
loves you anyways right well,what's that one saying that, as
far as a face, only a mothercould love?
Yeah, right well, it's yourface, mom, so you better love it
.
You might have to blur this forthe podcast.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I don't know it looks blurry, but you got to blur it
more.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh geez.
No, you're good in front of thecamera and you've even done
some acting, which is prettycool.
Do you like that?
Do you want to pursue more ofthat?
Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I do, I'm excited.
I've always kind of like lookedat acting and sampled with it
when I was out of the army.
In between my two stints thereI did a little extra work and
body double stuff.
The movie Enough with JenniferLopez I was a stand-in in that
and a body double the TV seriesthe Fugitive I did some body
double stuff on it and someextra work back in the day and
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then, since the injury, doingcomedy it's you know the word
got out there about me.
I guess this is social media,how it works the good part of it
anyways.
Um, and so I got asked to be indifferent things.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
of course they always asked me to play a wounded
veteran like you know a guy likeI got this, I could do that,
yeah, yeah I don't even need tosay anything, I just am the part
, just walk in.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I mean I love that shameless called me and I did
one episode of shameless andthey actually made fun of me and
they were worried about mebeing upset, like no, like when
a producer had followed me, likewe'll have this part for you.
You're going to play pyro polyHolly.
You know, guy mob used to useto blow up shit.
I'm like, yeah, this is perfect.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I love it.
That's good, and you got out ofthe vet role.
You were a mob guy.
Then you got a differentcharacter.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's fantastic, got that typecast right and then
now this year I just decided tocontract and I can talk about it
now.
There's a new TV series goingto be filmed this year called
the Giant.
Talk about it now.
There's a new TV series goingto be filmed this year called
the Giant, and it's a small townwith a sheriff.
There's going to be some otherguys in there.
You probably know like what'shis name Johnny Hunt.
(18:16):
Johnny Utah Hunt is going to bein there Special ops guy.
He does a lot of gaming stuffhunting, video gaming, wild game
stuff and stuff like that bowsand arrows.
And then Doug from Forged inFire I don't know how to say his
last name, mercado.
I always mess it up.
One of the guys from Forged inFire is going to be in the
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series.
So we have one season we'regoing to shoot this year.
So far we don't know if we'llget picked up for another one.
It hasn't been filmed yet, butit's coming up and I get to play
.
Check this out, this was a realstretch.
Comedian in a bar.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
What?
Yeah, that's what you're.
Oh, my goodness, I hope you'repreparing.
Are you going to do thelifestyle, acting like you're
going to immerse yourself inthat role, right?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm going to focus, I'm going to watch clips of Burt
comedians and I'm going to nailit.
I'm going to get it down, I gotit I'm working on.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I heard this one guy is really good.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
He's well done, though I don't know, I don't
know if I can be that good.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
That's fantastic.
Yeah, I love your show man.
When I saw you at Zany's thatwas just awesome and like just
the comedy and embracing things.
Like that's what we need to doas people.
We just need to embrace thecards you're dealt and realize
it's your hand, play it how youwant, but you got to play it.
If you just sit there and holdall your cards, then what are
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you doing in life?
You're not living.
I'm not playing that hand,though you sure, sure Looks
solid.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I already played it and lost.
No, like I was saying, I can go.
I got the nonprofit.
Now, forging forward everythingthat I learned over the years
to help myself.
I try to share that to try tohelp others.
That's what we talk about isyour strengths.
It's like what's strong withyou?
Focus on your strengths.
We all have strengths, so usethose strengths to build your
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weaknesses and use thosestrengths to help others.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
That's right, and, listeners, I want to have you
pause because Bobby just talkedabout his foundation.
I want you to go in thedescription and do something
positive.
Give him a follow.
Check out his foundation.
What he's doing Amazing stuff,Great positive.
Give him a follow.
Check out his foundation.
What he's doing Amazing stuff,Great guy.
You might be able to catch himat a VFW or who knows anywhere
else, and it sounds like you'regoing to be on TV soon again too
(20:30):
.
Is this a Netflix thing or whatis that thing?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
It has distribution.
We don't know where it's goingto be distributed yet.
It's one of those things.
They got someone that's goingto sell it Hollywood.
It's the magic behind the magic.
It takes forever, but theyalready have distribution.
We just need to get it done,get a film, and then they'll put
it out there and there'll beall kinds of platforms it'll be
on.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's fantastic.
And, speaking of platforms,make sure you follow, like and
subscribe and obviously sharethe asset mindset with people,
on whatever platform you use andare listening to Give us a like
and a follow.
So now getting back into this,Bobby, I want to talk about what
do you think made yousuccessful in dealing with all
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the different things?
I mean, it's not just beingblown up.
You know, there's so much morethan just the physical and the
mental.
What do you attribute yoursuccess to?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It goes back to my childhood for growing up in a
family with a single mom.
For years I was about 10 yearsold, since I was a baby.
Those struggles you have togrow up faster.
You learn to be a littletougher.
You learn to deal with.
You know hard times.
You know at a young age thathelped to be a little tougher
you learn to deal with.
You know hard times.
You know at a young age thathelped, of course, going into
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the military at 17 years old,all the training I had to adapt
and overcome throughout mymilitary career.
I know it's cliche, but it itdoes, it really helps.
And then just that, theattitude, of course the comedy
helps, and just being true toyourself.
You know I never pretend like,oh my God, this, I my God, I
don't want to be that guy thatgoes up there and shares a story
and just sounds so fake andtries to.
(22:06):
Aren't you guys excited?
Tonight?
I'm trying to pump you up.
Aren't you feeling good?
Give me a yeah.
No, I want to share my story.
I want to talk from a heart,depending on what group I'm
talking to, what's going on intheir lives, because I talk to
all kinds of differentbusinesses, situations,
militaries, civilians.
So you know, because I talk toall kinds of different
businesses, situations,militaries, civilians.
So what is this group goingthrough?
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Why am I here speaking to them?
What have I been through thatthey can really relate to?
You know, I try to find thatand just speak from the heart.
I think that helps and, ofcourse, the business side that
you need.
For all of this I have to thankmy wife.
She is the mastermind behindthe scene of everything I do
running a nonprofit, thespeakers bureau, the comedy gigs
, the flyers.
(22:47):
She does all that.
I just take all the credit.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
There you go.
You know that's what they say.
Behind every great man is anamazing woman, and you
definitely have an amazing oneJamie's awesome.
So let's get into people.
Nowadays, I think, also like tostay comfortable.
But if you're stayingcomfortable, you can't really
chase growth.
So what would you say togetting out of your comfort zone
(23:14):
?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I think to help me get out of my comfort zone and
to push me forward is the peoplethat are putting my life.
You know the occupationaltherapist for bugging me to try
to stand up.
Amy for putting things outthere and pushing me.
There's times I don't want todo stuff.
No, I don't want to do that,I'd be a little baby.
She pushes me.
You know the management teams,the people you put around you
(23:35):
friends and family that push you, that believe in you.
That's what helps me keeppushing forward.
Without those people I wouldprobably all right, I'm just
going to go hiking, I'm going togo fishing and I'm not going to
talk to anybody.
But they help push me when Ifeel like I can't do it, when
that fear starts to take overwhich it does sometimes like
(23:57):
look what you've done already,why would you stop now?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And they're the ones that push me forward for sure.
No, that's so powerful havinggood, positive people around you
that love and care, and I thinkpeople need to find that if
they don't have it sure?
So you want to give any hintson how you find those positive
people?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
but people that bring joy to you, if you feel joy
with them.
Those are the people.
If they're talking negative allthe time, you know those people
out there that constantlythey'll put put stuff on
Facebook and you're like whywould you put that out there?
Why would you put that onsocial media?
That's more personal, that'stoo much.
You know, if a struggle you'vebeen through I've been through a
struggle.
This is how I got through it.
(24:33):
If you need help, put that outthere.
But some people just put somepersonal stuff and talk about
others when they just reallyshould.
Those are the people you stayaway from.
You hear it all the time.
You know it doesn't matter ifit's friends, family.
Sometimes you got to cut familyoff.
If they're too negative, theygot to go.
It's hard sometimes.
Don't let people drag you down.
There's a lot of veterans I tryto help and then they really
(24:55):
don't want the help.
They want the attention and youtry to help them time after
time and eventually you got tocut ties Like here's everything
you need when you're ready,you're serious, here's all the
information you need, here's whoyou can go talk to.
Call me then, but other thanthat, I'm gone because you're
dragging me down too, and Ican't have that and you can't
(25:16):
have that Exactly, and I thinkthat's setting boundaries and
setting boundaries is soimportant.
People are afraid to do thatnowadays because I think they
(25:37):
might hurt somebody's feelingsor oh, our relationship's going
to be different.
But you know what, sometimesyou need a different
relationship.
Me, I'm going to go this way,you go that way, I just I do the
old school.
I slip away, slip away, slipaway Slowly.
Eventually they get to here,right, if not?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
then I got to go all right this doesn't work.
And for any of younon-paratroopers out there,
that's one of the jokes Slipaway, because that's what you do
.
You got to slip away from theguy you're going to collide with
, or whatever, or tree, oh, slipaway, it doesn't work really
fast.
It takes time oh no, yeah, youbetter be thinking ahead of time
.
Yes, you're going to slip away,like you know, a minute before.
(26:12):
Yeah, exactly, but no, that'sfantastic.
I love that you know we'resharing and letting people know,
because I think you hit thenail on the head, where a lot of
people view from the outsideand they're like, oh, they
figured it all out, you know, oh, he's a comedian, he's
successful.
Now, look at, he doesn'tstruggle with it.
Oh me, oh Dan wrote the assetmindset.
(26:34):
You know, he obviously is alwayspositive.
No, man, you're a human being,you're going to struggle.
It.
A human being, you're going tostruggle.
It's a condition, it's how youdeal with it and I love that.
You even said taming, becauseyou do, you got to tame those
thoughts and the more you trainyour brain that electrical
wiring you were talking aboutand shift, are there any
techniques that you use for likeshifting, for self-awareness,
(26:56):
as far as when you start havingthat negative thought come in
your head, is there somethingyou're like, ooh, light bulb, I
need to think this way or dothis?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I kind of turned into a high school
football coach with a sailor'smouth, right, I yell at myself
what are you doing?
What the fuck do you thinkyou're doing?
You're a dumbass, stop doingthis.
You know you got to get outthere, get back up, all right,
but I'm just going to take a napand then I'll try it.
I'm going to take a nap andthen I'm going to go back and
try this, but I do.
I sometimes have to yell atmyself.
(27:25):
So sometimes I need that, thatthat yelling of discipline, and
sometimes I self motivate bypositive reinforcement to myself
Like you got this, you're doing, doing good, it's funny, you
got to keep trying this, you gotto keep trying that.
And again, surrounding yourselfwith those people that see it
and they go hey, you doing allright, they check on you and
they help remind you to keepgoing, for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, I love that.
The be your own coach andthat's what I talk about Be your
greatest asset.
So if you're being your owncoach, like nobody can be in
your head more than you can,like they're not going to know
what you're thinking, so youneed to be able to coach
yourself better than anybodyelse to know what you're
thinking, so you need to be ableto coach yourself better than
anybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
It's good to have positive people around you but,
yeah, you're your biggest critic.
You're going to hurt yourselfthe most.
Nobody else is stopping you,it's you're stopping yourself.
I stopped myself by not havingthose positive thoughts.
Um, and of course, you go backto those days where you write
positive stuff around your house, put it on your mirror If you
have to look at every day, havea quote, a favorite song you
listen to every morning to helpkind of trigger that positive
thought.
You have choices, so you got totake that choice to have a good
(28:28):
day.
Bad things are going to happen,but you got to choose to react
to it.
And anger, depression, allthese negative kind of feelings
are.
They're not necessarily bad,they're true human feelings.
Embrace.
I tell people to embrace thosefeelings in a controlled
environment.
Like I said sometimes, I justgot to take a nap, I just can't
(28:48):
deal with that day.
I'm going to take a nap, I'mgoing to restart.
Not everybody can do that.
Not everybody's.
Retired Can't just say I got toget to work.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I give myself a pity pot timeout.
It I give myself a pity pottimeout.
It's like I'm so freaking madtoday this stupid shit's
happening.
I'll go in the closet and punchclothes or have a punching bag
at your house if you don't wantto break your hangers.
Cry, curl up in a ball and justcry.
Let it out in a controlled.
These are natural feelings.
You start balling all that upand it's going to turn in a bad
(29:18):
situation.
During road rage in publictraveling.
You're in a bad situation.
During road rage in publictraveling.
You're going to get angry andlash out at somebody else that
doesn't deserve it in thesituation you don't want to be
in.
So do it in a controlledenvironment.
Get those feelings out.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
You don't want it to build upand you snap, you know, and
things will trigger you in life.
You know we all get triggered.
And there's a new thing I'vecome across in some of my
studies and you know I'm alwaystrying to improve, improve my
fighting position, improve mymental position is you know how
people say things trigger you.
Will you just mention somethingthat you use or put things up
(29:55):
around the house, or letters orsigns or whatever it is?
That's a song, those areglimmers.
So you have triggers and youhave glimmers.
So you have triggers and youhave glimmers.
Glimmers are the things thatmake you feel good and you can
put those around in a sense totrigger you in a positive way.
So you have glimmers ofpositive things or things that
you believe in.
You know a picture of someoneyou love.
(30:16):
So when you get up in themorning you're like, oh, I don't
want to get out of bed, andthen you see a picture of your
daughter or your dog or whateveris your passion, like those
things.
You can put glimmers aroundyour house, around your life, to
combat the triggers.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I like that oh yeah, feel free to steal.
Steal that glimmers, I thinkthat's a good one too.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I got I was like man.
I like that, cause everybody'sworried about what triggers me.
What triggers me Well, whatmakes you feel good.
I like that because everybody'sworried about what triggers me.
What triggers me Well, whatmakes you feel good.
Put out some glimmers.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know that's always saying what's strong with
you Now what's wrong with you?
Good, focus on what's wrongwith you, what's strong with you
.
Look at your glimmers.
I like that.
I'm going to be glimmeringtoday.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yay, we both are, get a shiny shirt.
No, I love it, bobby, and Ijust man your smile and your
honesty and opening up, I think,is just it's shedding so much
light because so many people areafraid to share what you share,
and I think that's amazing andthat's one of the reasons why I
(31:15):
wanted you on here, because Iwant people to learn from you.
I want people to understandthat it is a struggle.
There's no magic bullet, thereis no one thing.
You just have to keep workingand keep pushing, and the more
you do it, the easier it becomes.
And the first step, I think, issituational awareness and
(31:37):
understanding what your beliefsare.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
For sure, definitely.
Look around you, look at yoursituation.
Where are you are?
What do you think about that?
For sure, definitely.
Look around you, look at yoursituation, where are you at, how
do you get out of it?
I mean, you can look around andsee like, okay, there's a bomb,
there's a bomb there.
I should go this direction.
That's negative, this ispositive.
I'm going to go that way.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
For sure, you got to have situational awareness, look
at your strengths, look forthose glimmers, use those
positive thoughts and keeppushing forward.
Exactly so.
What do you see in the future,five years out from you?
What are you?
What are you looking at?
What are your goals?
Cause I always talk aboutsetting goals and then maybe
(32:15):
backwards plans.
So obviously yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
No.
Jamie and I talk about this allthe time is was when do we slow
down?
We're going to slow down thisyear.
That didn't happen.
We're planning on slowing downa little more next year.
We'll see if that happens.
I don't think it is, but yeah,there's probably five years down
the load.
It is a load.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It's a load to carry man.
Five years is a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
There's no way we can't stop our personalities and
who we are.
We'll never stop giving backand doing our mission.
We'll definitely slow down.
So my big thing is I want tohave that one comedy special out
there.
Boom, it's out on social mediaNetflix or whatever and people
can always refer to that whenthey need it.
And then that gives us time toslow down and just more focus on
(33:04):
the nonprofit.
Doing about four retreats ayear, a couple of little
fundraisers and then spendingtime with our grandkids.
That's where we want to be infive years for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, grandkids and children, that's our real legacy
.
Yeah, you know, and we canteach them.
So you mentioned yourfoundation, again a nonprofit.
Share more with the listeners,like what are you doing and how
can they connect?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, so it's the Bobby Hinlein Foundation Forging
Forward.
I forge forward through thefire.
How do I show others to forgeforward through the fire that
they're going through, throughwhatever battle they have?
And so, again, it's those toolsthat I've learned, whether it's
writing stuff down, poetry,songs, physical labor and making
(33:48):
a knife out of a railroad spike, actually forging something,
painting any kind of art form.
Again, we talked about mothernature, hiking, kayaking,
fishing all these things help.
So we do retreats and smallretreats eight to 10 veterans
and first responders and we,each one of them, we have an
outlet that we learn, whetherit's kayaking, golfing, fishing,
(34:09):
stuff like that we got to do.
We do a we would callreflection art, where I walk you
through an art program andanybody can paint.
You don't have to be this greatpainter, it's your art, your
idea, your view of yourself thatI walk you through.
You paint't have to be thisgreat painter.
It's your art, your view ofyourself that I walk you through
.
You paint it.
I'm not a psychiatrist, I callit therapeutic art, but if it
helps you hopefully it helped me.
(34:29):
So far it's helped a lot ofothers we do that project real
simple and again, that's justthat camaraderie, Someone else,
building a group of friends thatcan call on each other when
they need it.
We have the body shop.
Any veterans that have lost alimb in the war and they need to
be refitted.
You know they don't have themoney to travel back to get it
(34:49):
refitted or get the new, updatedones.
We have an anonymous donor thatwill pay their airfare, their
hotel, give them per diem whilethey're there getting the
prosthetic fitted on and stuffwhich could take up to two weeks
to refit and stuff.
So we have the body shop forthat.
We have all American dining.
Everywhere we go we see firstresponders, veterans.
(35:11):
We like to pay for their meals.
So we have that program too.
Jamie and I do that.
We just paid in Springfield,missouri.
We just bought.
Eight firemen came in and ofcourse, you know know we love
our firemen.
Everybody thinks I was afireman but you know I wasn't.
Well, not professionally.
There's that one time but, yeah,yeah, yeah, we had all american
(35:32):
dining.
We had the remembrance tags.
We talk about suicide again.
All this is to prevent suicide,right, and we like to share
that.
You don't say committed suicide, it's not a crime.
They died by suicide.
We have 200 veterans names thathave died by suicide, all
combat veterans, and we collectmore names.
(35:53):
So if you have any names, we'lltake them.
We make dog tags out of them.
We call remembrance tags theirname, their rank, their branch,
a dash for their life, so it'snever forgotten.
On the other tag it saysForging Forward, what's strong
with you, and I give these outat my retreats to the veterans
that are there to take a notewith me that they won't do the
same thing.
They'll use these tags as areminder of their strength and
(36:14):
know that suicide's not anoption.
We got to keep living for thosethat have paid the ultimate
sacrifice and these ones thathave died by suicide.
I reflect back to when I thoughtabout suicide.
You know those first couple ofyears when I didn't understand
why would I take myself out toprotect my family?
It's not that I couldn't handlelife.
Now I got to handle it in adifferent way because of what
(36:35):
we've been through.
We're all normal for thesituations that we've been
through.
That's how it is when ithappens.
So when we think about it and Iknow when they the situations
that we've been through, that'show it is when it happens.
So when we think about it, andI know when they the one that
have died by suicide they'retrying to protect their family
and friends.
They think that they can'thandle that.
I mean, there was times I wasin a drive-through and I
couldn't even order for my kids.
I'd have to drive out of thedrive-through.
(36:55):
I couldn't stand in the line ofmovie theater because I we feel
bad for our family, because ofour choices, that they got to go
through this.
But they are our family, theylove us, they want to help us
through this stuff.
But I get why we have those darktimes in that moment, why we do
take our lives sometimes.
So we try to prevent that bybuilding these tools.
(37:17):
So I know that those guys,those men and women that have
died by suicide, had just lost abattle to a wound that they
sustained in a war zone.
Them die by suicide is the samething for me going in for
another surgery because of mywounds and I don't come out from
that.
It's those wounds that Ieventually took my life.
(37:37):
It's the same thing for them.
So I want them to rememberfurther strength and I want us
to know the best way we canhonor.
Whether a suicide, excuse me oractually in when you burn your
throat, you need lots of water.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I thought you might have been doing something else I
don't know I would never.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I would never be crying or acting like a sailor.
There's that you were, yes, butthe best way to honor the
following is to live your lifeto the fullest.
Don't waste the life you'vebeen given.
Don't let them die in vain.
Take advantage of our freedomsthat we do have here.
(38:18):
Don't abuse them.
There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Take advantage of them no, absolutely honoring the
fallen is that that's so muchstrength and power there.
You know, I seriously, probablyat least once a week, really
look at my arm and reflect onguys that I'm like.
You know what I got to keeppushing for you.
You know, I didn't want to besomeone that stands up and talks
(38:43):
.
I didn't want to be in thespotlight.
I didn't necessarily want tohave a podcast or be this author
, but it's you know what.
No, this is the right thing todo.
God's put me on this path andI'm going to play my cards and
life the best I can to honor thepeople and that's why I like
bringing guests like you on thatare living with that same
purpose, because I talk about inthe book.
(39:03):
You know you don't have to bespecial forces to have the asset
mindset.
You got it.
Other people have it, othersuccessful people have it.
But if you do want to go toselection and be special forces,
you damn well better have anasset mindset, because they're
not going to want you on a team,because you need to be an asset
and always remember, you know,we are our greatest asset or our
(39:23):
greatest liability.
Yes, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
And, like you said, you're doing it, it's your
platform, it's there for you.
It came naturally, becauseRoosevelt's quote I love is do
what you can with what you havewhere you're at.
It's that simple.
People think I got to have allthis money, I got to be smart, I
got to do.
No, it's little things.
Whatever's in front of you thatyou can do, you had this, you
had this platform, your asset,mindset.
(39:47):
You say no, let me share thiswith others.
How I did it, how I do it.
And then, okay, how do I takethat further?
Is it getting out to morepeople?
The platform of having thepodcast and everything and, of
course, your story with, if youdon't ask, you'll never know.
Hey kid, do you need abodyguard?
Hey, kid, do you need abodyguard?
(40:08):
Can I work?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
with you.
Who does that?
That's awesome yeah.
And life see, that's one of theother thing.
I love that you brought thattopic up because that's
opportunities in life.
Like my life completely changedbecause of that one acting.
Your life is completely changedbecause of one action.
So, listeners out there, you'reliterally one opportunity, one
event, one thing from change inthe course of your life.
So, listeners out there, you'reliterally one opportunity, one
event, one thing from change inthe course of your life.
(40:29):
You can do it.
You know, understand that it'snot this impossible task.
You know.
Yeah, it might take some workand it might take some time, but
one thing can change.
You know, and people say like,ooh, nine out of 10 businesses
fail, change.
You know.
And people say like, ooh, nineout of 10 businesses fail.
(40:50):
Well, that means I only have to, you know, swing 10 times.
You know it's like, come on,let's get with the program right
.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Look at these hockey players.
I mean they take shot after.
There's like 50 shots on goal.
Only two went in and but theycan win with that.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
That's you and your life out there, like you can do
it.
So, for those that don't knowand are watching and listening
to this, so I was down in theBahamas and I had just gotten
off active duty, I wascelebrating my birthday and Kid
Rock was down in the Bahamas hedoes a lot of stuff for the USO
and supporting the troops isvery patriotic, as most people
(41:24):
know, and I just had to go upand say thank you to him and he
was like oh, are you in?
And I'm like no, I'm not in, Ijust got off active duty, you
know.
But last year I was inAfghanistan for my birthday,
kicking indoors and whatnot.
He's like well, let's have adrink.
We started hanging out, I'mthanking him for supporting the
troops, he's thanking me for myservice turned into a three-day
(41:46):
affair.
We became friends and now it's18 plus years.
Um, I worked for him for likefive years and it's been amazing
, and all of that because I wason the beach and I wasn't afraid
.
Well, I'm going to lie to you alittle.
I guess I was a little afraidto talk to him, but I had that
fuck it attitude, to be blunt,and I I'm like this is an
opportunity and I want to pay itforward and give him gratitude.
(42:10):
And when you're doing thosepositive things, people take
notice.
I mean he noticed.
He said from the very beginningjust how I talked to him and
how I acted.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I wasn't there for anything, you're just saying hi,
like I got a chance to say hito kid rock, that's it.
You didn't know it's it wasgoing to turn into more.
You know it's awesome.
It's a thing, opportunitieslike that's happened to me.
There's some doors I probablyshould have opened and I didn't
try.
It's like I don't want tobother that person type thing,
but there's ones I have.
Or a mutual friend introducesme to somebody.
For instance, two years intodoing comedy I get introduced to
(42:49):
Brad Garrett from EverlessRaymond and he's like hey, so I
heard you're doing comedy.
Yeah, I heard you on a club inVegas.
Oh, you want to do Vegas, allright.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
And he gave me a shot , like you don't know Absolutely
, and that's the thing you know.
People, you're alive still.
Amazing things can happen.
Everybody out there.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Just because you're alive doesn't mean you're living
.
You got to keep going and keepliving.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I do like that too, because we talk about in the
army.
You're droning.
Don't be droning in life, Don'tjust be going through the
motions.
Don't do that.
Find a passion, find a purposeand if you don't know what it is
, go for a walk, figure it out.
Yeah, a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I say my angels talk to me when I'm walking or
running or at the gym.
It's funny If I'm working out Igot gangster rap on.
I just love working out thegangster rap.
I've got a little weight onthere just going to town.
But thoughts come to me, ideascome to me when I'm doing that
and I say my angels are talkingto me, giving me advice in life
and watching out over me.
Though, like you said, thosefour men are tattooed all over
(43:47):
me.
They're hanging in my truckEverywhere I go.
They're reminders around me.
I mean, not a day goes by thatI don't think about them and
their families.
Every day is Memorial Day.
I think for all veterans andespecially us, that we're in
situations like that where welost ones really close to us.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, there's a few that it's Thank
God I wasn't in your situation,but I know a lot of people were.
I got a good buddy, dave Nunez,who was in a vehicle and he
went through some horriblethings.
My buddy, josh Whitaker greatguy, we bonded so much and we
deployed first time together andliterally I'm on getting on a
(44:29):
bird to go on a mission andsomebody has a memorial pack on
their sleeve and it sayswhittaker, and I'm like
whittaker, I know.
And then I'm like what, whoa,whoa, whoa, whoa?
I found out, literally going todo a hit, that one of my best
buddies that was, he was onanother ODA and whatnot.
(44:49):
But I'm like Holy shit, likethat night let's just say I was
pretty amped up and kickingdoors wasn't hard.
But uh, no, you, you, you havethese things that happen and
find strength from them.
Honor those people and I lovethat you're doing that.
Bobby, I connected with youright away from the beginning
(45:13):
because your heart is real and Iappreciate you so much and I
think you are being so brave andcourageous and getting out
there and beating down the pathfor others to follow you and
you're making a difference and Iwant to continue to support you
in any way I can.
That's why I wanted to have youin here, share your foundation,
(45:33):
share your work, because you'rejust an amazing human being and
when you're having those suckmoments, try and think of me, if
you can.
I know you got other peoplethat are more important, but,
like, seriously, I'm so proud ofyou Shirt on or off, I might be
doing the helicopter, who knows.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, here wego.
(45:54):
No, but really, bobby, you'regreat and I want to make you cry
.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I'm trying to make you cry you know I have a big
cry, baby.
I was just crying about talkingabout my golf game the other
day.
It was ridiculous.
I was sharing my story to agroup of long, long range
reconnaissance.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
It's so hard to say that word.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
So I had to.
They were having a reunion Iwas speaking to them about
everything.
The Lurse, the Larp and Lurse,yeah, so I was talking to those
guys and and I just thoughtabout my golf game, pushing
yourself through somethingthat's hard to do I went in I
never golfed before and so Ibroke, you know, 100 finally,
and then the other day I shotlike a 92.
I'm like, I'm bawling andcrying, I'm calling my wife.
(46:36):
I just didn't do it.
I've heard golf, but yeah, I'ma big baby.
I'm definitely a big baby.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
That's all right.
We are all a baby at times,yeah.
But I just want to go back alittle bit and I want you to hit
again on where do you find yourstrength?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Again, my strength I find in myself that I have to
look for.
But the best part about findingmy strength is the people
around me, the ones that I'velost their families, to keep
going for them, to be an examplefor my children.
And the people around me that Iput around me.
That push me.
That push me when they know,they see they know me good
(47:17):
enough that they know you're notgiving it all today.
You're holding back and theypush me and they give me
sometimes it's smack in the head, push and sometimes it's more
positive reinforcement that youknow they pump me up.
I know you can do this.
You got this.
Jamie's favorite saying to sayevery time I go on stage is kick
a moon and catch a star.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Well, you're the star , so I guess you just gotta, you
know, kick a moon.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, she caught the star.
Yeah, oh man, she cut the star.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah, oh man, no, jamie's fantastic.
Love you, jamie, out there.
I'm sure you're somewherelistening, hiding in the other
room.
Now, bobby, you're just man.
I'm at a loss for words so muchbecause you make me smile, you
make me laugh, you inspire me.
You're doing all the things youreally are.
(48:05):
Appreciate it, thank you.
You know me.
You're doing all the things youreally are.
And you know I I did a show nottoo long ago with this other
gentleman, george Hayworth, andhe talks about, you know,
telling other guys that hey,you're doing a good job, or I'm
proud of you, cause men don'treally do that, and that's a
lesson I've kind of learnedthrough him, and you know my
growth as a human being.
So that's probably why I'mlaying it on a little thick,
(48:26):
because it's a new awareness forme.
I'm going to tell guys.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
I'm proud of them.
I try to do that.
You know, whenever, whenever Ispeak and speaking again,
especially when I'm sharing mystory, it's like hey, you know,
today I get to share my story,I'm the reminder.
There's days I need to bereminded and we all have a story
.
Everybody in that room has astory, no matter what they've
been through with military ornot, they've struggled through
something we all share.
Our stories is how we help eachother out.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Exactly, absolutely.
You said it.
You know you got to share yourstory and for people out there
that if you're in isolation moderight now, you got to break out
of that.
You have to.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
And I always get people telling me well, bobby, I
hate to complain to you aboutthis because I haven't been
through what you've been throughand they think I've been
through something worse.
But really, physically maybe,depending on what you've been
through, I've been throughphysically but the hardest part
is mentally.
So I don't care what you'vebeen through, it's the hardest
thing you know mentally.
It's equal to the hardest thingI know mentally, it's the same.
(49:26):
You can do it, you can do it.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
So how would you help someone that is struggling and
that you know a lot of peopleturn in and isolationism.
How do we touch those peopleand help them?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
That is a difficult question.
Why'd you ask no?
But just seriously, I mean, ifsomeone doesn't want help, it's
so hard and they need thoseother people to nudge them and
push them to help somebody elsewith the heart.
To get to someone who's readyfor help, it's just ask, talk,
(50:01):
keep sharing, keep talking tothem, asking them questions.
They'll be scared to ask themquestions, but it's so hard.
If that person isn't ready tobe helped, you can't help them.
But hey, if you keep asking youready, how about now?
You feeling it today?
Keep coming back to them andchecking on them.
Eventually they'll be like allright, let's do this.
And baby steps, baby steps.
(50:22):
Like you said, go for a walk.
That's going to help.
Being out in Mother Nature,going for a simple walk, a drive
.
Take a back country road, gofor a drive.
Look at the beauty on thefields.
I love that.
Seeing the old barns, thelivestock, that stuff makes me
happy to see that.
It triggers the brain and getsit going.
So little things like that.
Taking them for a ride If youcan talk them to get in the car
(50:44):
with you, hey, let's just go fora ride.
We ain't got to talk to nobodyelse, we ain't got to be in
public anywhere, let's just gofor a ride.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, and there's beauty out there.
That's one of the things Ithink people forget.
There's a lot of bad shit inthe world, there's evil in the
world, but you, it's going toget their brain going and just
let natural conversation.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
You don't have to start digging to start talking
and let national come outnaturally.
That's how you can helpsomebody help a buddy.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, just be in there with someone by their side
.
Yeah, you might have somesilence for a little while, but,
like you said, you take in thebeauty, you share that moment
and you never know where it maylead, right?
So I think that's reallyimportant Now.
Never know where it may lead.
So I think that's reallyimportant.
Now I want to give you theopportunity.
There's one last thing that ifyou had you know you're a
(51:32):
comedian and whatnot, and I knowyou have your jokes but if you
had a magic wand and you were asorcerer and you could enlighten
everybody with one thought orone idea, what would it be Like?
What would you leave theaudience If you could change
idea?
What would it be Like?
What would you leave theaudience if you could change
them?
What?
Speaker 2 (51:49):
would that thing be, my God, if I could make
everybody just love themselves.
Love themselves.
I battle with it.
I struggle, everybody does.
If we could all just learn tolove ourselves every day,
unconditionally, it would be allright.
What happened yesterday wasyesterday.
That's another chapter.
You got a new chapter to writetoday, so don't wait for new
year.
Start writing a new chaptertoday.
(52:09):
Love yourself.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Absolutely Love yourself, bobby.
That was fantastic and amazingand I can't think of anything
else that wouldn't be, you know,a better high note to end this
on, because, absolutely,listeners out there love
yourself.
That's been the best answer Ithink I've heard and I don't
(52:33):
think you can get any better,because love is a powerful thing
.
Thank you for listening to theAsset Mindset Podcast.
Thank you, bobby, for being onhere.
It was an honor to connect withyou again and have you on the
show.
You really helped share somepowerful things.
Love yourself, audience.
Don't forget to follow, likeand subscribe.
Share this with you if you havesomeone that needs to have a
little love or learn to lovethemselves and needs the asset
(52:55):
mindset.
So thank you once again.
Thank you, bobby.
God bless, own your power.
You.
Welcome to the Asset Mindset Podcast, bobby.
It is great to have you here.
Man, I can't tell you howexcited I am to have you on here
because I just love yourmindset.
I love your sense of humor, howyou use it to embrace the suck
and overcome things, how youinspire people, how you inspire
me.
It was a pleasure and an honorto work with you and get to know
(00:30):
you in the past and I'm justsuper excited to have you here
on the Asset Mindset podcast somy listeners get to learn more
about the well-done comedian.
So, before I do a big bye oranything, why don't you share
your story a little bit?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, I guess I'll go back and first of all, it's an
honor to be here.
Thanks for having me on we goback to.
I was in Desert Storm.
I joined the Army at 17 yearsold, went to Desert Storm at 19,
got out for 10 years and then9-11 happened.
So I knew I had an experiencethat a lot of young men or women
are about to go through that Istill had a fight in me at 30
(01:07):
years old, couldn't let thathappen to this country and not
do something about it.
So I reenlisted.
October 31st I was back inbasic training.
After five years you got to goback to basic.
So I did basic, I did jumpschool and then I went to 82nd
Airborne.
I did three more tours to IraqIn 2007, my home got hit by a
(01:28):
roadside bomb.
I was the only survivor out offive guys.
You know 18 years ago now and Iknew that I couldn't sit and do
nothing.
I couldn't let them die in vain.
I couldn't waste the life I'vebeen given.
So I just looked up to God andsaid what do I do?
What's my new mission?
Life I've been given.
So I just looked up to God saidwhat do I do?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
What's what's my new mission?
How do I continue on for thosewe've lost?
I really admire that and I lovehow I kind of do the same thing
myself.
I got guys from my unit thatI've lost and those suck days
that you're just like man andit's hard to drag yourself out
of bed or whatever You're like.
You know what no for these guysand what people have sacrificed
(02:11):
.
You know we got to step it upand honor them and I love how
honorable you are and what youdo with your story sharing and
inspiring.
So when do you think youactually developed that mindset?
Or can you walk me and theaudience through embracing the
suck and realizing and havingthat shift in your head where
you decided to be like no, I'mgoing to take a negative and
turn it into a positive?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right, yeah, I think I think I've always kind of had
the mindset in me not knowing it, especially after reading your
book, like wait, that soundslike me.
Did I write this?
It's a.
It was well-written as a childcan read it.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
It was well written as a childcan read it.
Thank you, I appreciate thatYou're welcome.
At first, of course, it wasdifficult Survivor's guilt.
I felt like a burden to myfamily.
(02:53):
I felt useless.
I was like why did God keep mealive?
Why am I still here?
I don't understand.
So I would pray to God everynight just to take me for two
years.
Just, I'm useless, I don't getit.
But I always use that sense ofhumor as a self.
I guess what it's where I'mlooking for, just to defend
myself in a way and help others,not deal with it.
(03:15):
You're going to diffuse themand to help them with the sense
of humor.
So even in the hospital and ICUI would joke to my friends
family.
I would get out of the hospital.
I joke to my friends family Iwould get out of the hospital.
I'd joke with my kids Like Ididn't want them to know the
battle that was going on inside.
That I really didn't want to bethere.
So it was the right defensemechanism just to kind of shield
(03:36):
what's really going on.
And it took me probably againtwo years.
Like stop praying to God.
I said, all right, what's mynew mission?
Three years before I reallyaccepted what I look like.
When I first got out of thehospital it was really hard.
I mean, I spent six monthsinpatient to get back out there
and see all my stuff.
(03:58):
You know, I had that giant, biggreen footlocker that had all my
stuff that the 82nd had sentback to the house, so it's all
my memorabilia and stuff fromfrom Iraq.
And then, realizing I can't dothis job anymore, I told you
before, in 2004, I went toselection.
I hurt my back because I was anold man trying out, which most
(04:18):
of us are that try out for us.
We're trying to get out of theregular army.
All I got was bull crap andgetting to real shit.
So my plan was always to goback, go back to selection.
I got back in shape and I wasready to go back to selection.
So even in the hospital I toldmy wife at the time.
I said, yeah, just take someibuprofen, drink some water.
Soon, as I'm better, I'm goingback to selection, my career's
(04:40):
not over.
So when you realize that yourcareer's over and like it hits
you like it wasn't my choice toleave already, but obviously I
had to that hurt.
That was really hard to dealwith, you know.
And that's when I was kind ofangry and like what is my new
mission?
How am I going to be useful atall?
This is crazy.
Why am I even alive if I can'tbe used to do anything?
(05:03):
But yeah, it took some time andbeat myself up, like we all do.
We all go through taking themeds, taking the alcohol, trying
to submit, submit everything,submit it down and depress it
and control it.
But the best way to control itis to look it straight in the
eye and talk to it, Tame it.
You can't ever get rid of thosebeasts, those demons, but we
(05:26):
can learn to tame them and livewith them.
I don't know if I reallyanswered your question, or if I
just went all over the placethere, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's okay.
It's.
I'm sharing here and we're justbeing real and honest and I
think people relate to thatbecause you know what, not
everybody has it all together.
You know it's part of the humancondition to struggle.
You know, I think exactly whatyou're saying.
You know pain problems.
People try and numb it withdrugs, alcohol.
You know you just don't want tofeel it, you want to be numb.
(05:54):
But I think, like you said, asfar as finding something,
whether it's humor, whether it'sa passion or purpose that you
have that can help tame thestruggles that you have within.
So when did you like reallyacknowledge you said you used
humor for embracing the suck andmaking people feel better
(06:15):
around you?
When did this become a passionthat you're like?
You know what?
I think I can do this and do itprofessionally and help inspire
other people to overcome theirissues or struggles in life.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's all an accident.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
As many things are right In life.
I just mean me.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But when I had my hand for two years before they
amputated it, they kept tryingto fix it.
And so when they finallyamputated it, my occupational
therapist.
Again, I was just using myhumor.
This is two years post-injurythat they amputated, and I'm
just using my sense of humor.
You're going through physicaltherapy, occupational therapy.
It's painful dealing with allthat stuff.
You're joking around to all theother veterans that are in the
(06:59):
room and just making fun ofeverybody, and myself and the
doctors, the nurses, the OTs,pts, everybody was a target to
kind of get through the day andshe said oh my God, you're so
funny, you got to do standupcomedy.
No, no, no, just don't work onthe outside, you know, just
(07:21):
making fun of us.
Like, one of the guys was aMarine that lost both legs above
the knee and he's walking forthe first time.
So of's, of course, we're allproud of him.
We're excited, like, oh my God,you know you, you're walking
again.
We saw our brother take sevensteps and then somebody asked
him well, how do you feel?
He's like?
You know, well, half of mefeels like no, no, no, no.
You can't say that anymore,technically.
That's all of you.
(07:41):
You know, that's all of you.
You know, that's like me saying.
On the other hand, it justcertain things just don't sound
right.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
No, that's good.
So that light bulb came on forhumor.
I think we all use it in themilitary.
It's very common.
You know like we bust eachother's balls.
We make jokes, like you said.
You know the Marine amputee andwhat they go through.
You know dealing with thatstuff.
But what do you think makeshumor so special?
To combat these type of thingsor just the suck in life
(08:15):
sometimes?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It just kind of breaks up the monotony of the
suck and just you got to laughat it, because I think it's not
just veterans, first responders,humans.
It's just a human thing to beable to, when you can look and
relax and laugh at what happenedand you realize you can't
change what happened to you, butyou can change how you deal
with it.
First step is to be able tolaugh at it and then put into
(08:39):
action what are you going to doabout it?
You know, are you going to keepmarching forward?
What's your next step?
To find your new mission?
That's what it is a healingmechanism.
It's just a human thing forsure.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, absolutely so.
Do you think it has the abilityto really fight and overcome
the victim mentality?
Because a lot of people in lifehave things happen to them.
You yourself have been through.
You know tremendous things thatvictim mentality of just why me
, or oh this sucks, or oh Ican't anymore because x, y and z
(09:13):
happened to me for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's definitely defense mechanisms that can help
with that.
It's again, it's that firststep, getting through the
process and again, you're gonna,it's never gonna go away.
There's like, oh, I don't look,people think I wake up every
day going, I'm just going to befunny man today, and I don't
ever have a bad day or anything.
I battle it.
I mean, every day there's.
There's a battle.
I got PTSD along with OCD, liketwo things that make me angry
(09:39):
at everybody.
But it's, it's, it's constantbattle.
You're never going to be fixed.
Don't think there's a magicpill.
There's a magic.
Oh, I went to this psychiatristthree times and, um, I got this.
Now I got these tools.
You know you got to keep usingthose tools.
But just having a tool isn'tgoing to fix your house.
You got to get out there, fixthe siding, fix the shingles.
(10:00):
You know the door jam you got.
You got to continue to work onyourself.
That's the analogy I use allthe time.
Is your house?
You know the wiring, theelectronic stuff, that's your
brain, that's the stuff that weforget to work on sometimes.
You know we always see the oh,he needs a hand.
You know those simple things.
Yeah, no definitely.
(10:27):
We battle the wiring up thereall the time, and the mental
along with the physical togetheris how we get through it.
And we know that if, if you goto the gym, you work out or you
run, you walk, you go on a hike,mother nature, these things
help you mentally as well asphysically, for sure absolutely
for the toolbox.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
What I think you just said is super powerful in there
and I want to go back andhighlight it.
As far as there's nothing thatjust makes it go away, whatever
struggle or things, or thatwiring problem that you're
talking about or whatever it maybe, that struggle is always
there.
You don't read my book, theAsset Mindset, and be like, oh,
(11:04):
I know how to be positive,everything's great in my life,
like it doesn't happen.
There's tools, and I love howyou use that analogy.
So let's go into that tamingmore of those problems.
So people realize for youlisteners out there definitely
understand that whatever you'rereading or growth you're doing,
that solution that you've justlearned isn't necessarily a
(11:26):
solution that's going to make itgo away forever.
It's going to tame what youhave.
They're tools for coping and,bobby, just help share the tools
that you have, maybe other thanjust sense of humor and
cracking jokes.
Is there anything else in yourtoolbox?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And you said coping.
That's the damn word I waslooking for earlier.
It's coping mechanism, cause itis, and there's all kinds of
extent, you need different typesof tools.
So it's the comedy writing,obviously.
But I write poetry.
I write poetry about the demons.
I'm battling about things, goodthings, that happened to me too
.
I just get it out.
Mother nature, going on hikes,kayaking, painting.
(12:04):
Mother nature it's's takingyour shoes off and walking to
the grass.
I mean those little things, andjust being present in Mother
Nature is huge.
More tools that I want to workon myself too.
More meditating I'm bad aboutsitting down.
I don't have the patience tosit there.
I'm trying to do Tai Chi now tohelp me focus in the morning
(12:26):
and then go to the gym, kind ofa stretching exercise and
meditation and then work out.
I think that helped me.
More powerful, a little morepowerful only.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You would think I was in the Marines the way I talk.
Hey Army, we aren't ready to beMarines yet, right?
Not quite there.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
If I get an extra chromosome, I'll be there no,
that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, I think one of the things you just keyed on too
is getting out there withnature.
I've seen a theme lately a lotand I want to share it with you
and others, and you're alreadysaying it would get out there in
nature but go take a walk.
Taking a walk is so like getoff your couch, get out of your
house, you don't want to bearound people.
(13:11):
Go out with nature and walk.
You know.
If you want to be around people, go to a mall and walk and
people walk.
You know.
But get out there and move andjust walking gets the blood
flowing, it gets your mindthinking and you can process
stuff so much better.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So I mean Going back to.
I guess I never really answeredthe question, but it was an
accident.
So, because I started doing thejoking around the hospital
stuff, I got talked into doingthe comedy and they'd be like,
wait, this guy's doing comedy.
We want to hear the whole story.
Like, how do you do this?
And so then it just turned intosharing the story, doing the
comedy and people telling methat it helped them.
(13:50):
I was like I'm tired.
I've been doing this for 15years.
You know, I got to take sometime out for myself.
Like, keep going, you justhelped me.
Today you get these messagesthat tell you that it's helping
people.
Because it's always weird tosay I help people, I.
Because it's always weird tosay I help people.
I just tell them my story andthey feel better.
It sounds weird that I havethis power.
You know, I always say thatGod's given me the strength and
(14:10):
courage to do what I do.
I've learned over time that mypeople tell me that it helps
them.
So I continue to just be me.
Share that, share my struggles,share my awards or whatever you
know, my accomplishments.
Share that too and let themknow, like if this?
I mean, look, I can't even talk, right?
If this dumb guy can do it, whodrove a truck and jumped out of
(14:32):
airplanes in the military thenyou can do it, it's I hear you
on that one.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
We could all do it.
So I think the big point rightnow, then, is you just keyed on
courage.
Let's talk about courage,having courage and how that can
actually help shape your futureand for the listeners out there,
you know you need to becourageous.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Having courage doesn't mean you're not scared.
That's what you're scared, butyou're doing it anyways.
You're going to take thosesteps forward.
You realize there's fear inanything you do, especially if
you're not used to doing it.
Never done it before it's scaryout there.
You're scared about failing.
It's okay to fail.
That's how we learn right.
I used to say that when I rodeBMX when I was a kid Failing
(15:16):
only leads to the big payoff.
Eventually you nail that jumpright, you win the race, but it
comes with scratches and scarsand brain damage.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, and you have the wounds but you learn from
them and it toughens you up andyou learn how to deal with stuff
.
I always think when you havefear, it's an opportunity to be
courageous and brave and thatmeans something great is going
to happen.
So if you're dealing with fearin life, don't think that that's
the end.
That's the beginning.
You know when you can breakthrough that fear, imagine how
(15:49):
good you're going to feel whenyou really had that, Like you
said, you looked in the mirrorand you could finally accept
yourself.
That must've been a huge momentwhen you can break through that
.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Oh yeah, I was insecure, even though I never
let anybody else know it, butit's like I look, so I look.
I look pictures of me beforenow.
I'm like that guy looks weird,and I teased my mom too, because
I still look like her.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So I don't know what that's saying oh, bobby, she
loves you anyways right well,what's that one saying that, as
far as a face, only a mothercould love?
Yeah, right well, it's yourface, mom, so you better love it
.
You might have to blur this forthe podcast.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I don't know it looks blurry, but you got to blur it
more.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh geez.
No, you're good in front of thecamera and you've even done
some acting, which is prettycool.
Do you like that?
Do you want to pursue more ofthat?
Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I do, I'm excited.
I've always kind of like lookedat acting and sampled with it
when I was out of the army.
In between my two stints thereI did a little extra work and
body double stuff.
The movie Enough with JenniferLopez I was a stand-in in that
and a body double the TV seriesthe Fugitive I did some body
double stuff on it and someextra work back in the day and
(17:06):
then, since the injury, doingcomedy it's you know the word
got out there about me.
I guess this is social media,how it works the good part of it
anyways.
Um, and so I got asked to be indifferent things.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
of course they always asked me to play a wounded
veteran like you know a guy likeI got this, I could do that,
yeah, yeah I don't even need tosay anything, I just am the part
, just walk in.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I mean I love that shameless called me and I did
one episode of shameless andthey actually made fun of me and
they were worried about mebeing upset, like no, like when
a producer had followed me, likewe'll have this part for you.
You're going to play pyro polyHolly.
You know, guy mob used to useto blow up shit.
I'm like, yeah, this is perfect.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I love it.
That's good, and you got out ofthe vet role.
You were a mob guy.
Then you got a differentcharacter.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's fantastic, got that typecast right and then
now this year I just decided tocontract and I can talk about it
now.
There's a new TV series goingto be filmed this year called
the Giant.
Talk about it now.
There's a new TV series goingto be filmed this year called
the Giant, and it's a small townwith a sheriff.
There's going to be some otherguys in there.
You probably know like what'shis name Johnny Hunt.
(18:16):
Johnny Utah Hunt is going to bein there Special ops guy.
He does a lot of gaming stuffhunting, video gaming, wild game
stuff and stuff like that bowsand arrows.
And then Doug from Forged inFire I don't know how to say his
last name, mercado.
I always mess it up.
One of the guys from Forged inFire is going to be in the
(18:37):
series.
So we have one season we'regoing to shoot this year.
So far we don't know if we'llget picked up for another one.
It hasn't been filmed yet, butit's coming up and I get to play
.
Check this out, this was a realstretch.
Comedian in a bar.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
What?
Yeah, that's what you're.
Oh, my goodness, I hope you'repreparing.
Are you going to do thelifestyle, acting like you're
going to immerse yourself inthat role, right?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm going to focus, I'm going to watch clips of Burt
comedians and I'm going to nailit.
I'm going to get it down, I gotit I'm working on.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I heard this one guy is really good.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
He's well done, though I don't know, I don't
know if I can be that good.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
That's fantastic.
Yeah, I love your show man.
When I saw you at Zany's thatwas just awesome and like just
the comedy and embracing things.
Like that's what we need to doas people.
We just need to embrace thecards you're dealt and realize
it's your hand, play it how youwant, but you got to play it.
If you just sit there and holdall your cards, then what are
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you doing in life?
You're not living.
I'm not playing that hand,though you sure, sure Looks
solid.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I already played it and lost.
No, like I was saying, I can go.
I got the nonprofit.
Now, forging forward everythingthat I learned over the years
to help myself.
I try to share that to try tohelp others.
That's what we talk about isyour strengths.
It's like what's strong withyou?
Focus on your strengths.
We all have strengths, so usethose strengths to build your
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weaknesses and use thosestrengths to help others.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
That's right, and, listeners, I want to have you
pause because Bobby just talkedabout his foundation.
I want you to go in thedescription and do something
positive.
Give him a follow.
Check out his foundation.
What he's doing Amazing stuff,Great positive.
Give him a follow.
Check out his foundation.
What he's doing Amazing stuff,Great guy.
You might be able to catch himat a VFW or who knows anywhere
else, and it sounds like you'regoing to be on TV soon again too
(20:30):
.
Is this a Netflix thing or whatis that thing?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
It has distribution.
We don't know where it's goingto be distributed yet.
It's one of those things.
They got someone that's goingto sell it Hollywood.
It's the magic behind the magic.
It takes forever, but theyalready have distribution.
We just need to get it done,get a film, and then they'll put
it out there and there'll beall kinds of platforms it'll be
on.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's fantastic.
And, speaking of platforms,make sure you follow, like and
subscribe and obviously sharethe asset mindset with people,
on whatever platform you use andare listening to Give us a like
and a follow.
So now getting back into this,Bobby, I want to talk about what
do you think made yousuccessful in dealing with all
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the different things?
I mean, it's not just beingblown up.
You know, there's so much morethan just the physical and the
mental.
What do you attribute yoursuccess to?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It goes back to my childhood for growing up in a
family with a single mom.
For years I was about 10 yearsold, since I was a baby.
Those struggles you have togrow up faster.
You learn to be a littletougher.
You learn to deal with.
You know hard times.
You know at a young age thathelped to be a little tougher
you learn to deal with.
You know hard times.
You know at a young age thathelped, of course, going into
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the military at 17 years old,all the training I had to adapt
and overcome throughout mymilitary career.
I know it's cliche, but it itdoes, it really helps.
And then just that, theattitude, of course the comedy
helps, and just being true toyourself.
You know I never pretend like,oh my God, this, I my God, I
don't want to be that guy thatgoes up there and shares a story
and just sounds so fake andtries to.
(22:06):
Aren't you guys excited?
Tonight?
I'm trying to pump you up.
Aren't you feeling good?
Give me a yeah.
No, I want to share my story.
I want to talk from a heart,depending on what group I'm
talking to, what's going on intheir lives, because I talk to
all kinds of differentbusinesses, situations,
militaries, civilians.
So you know, because I talk toall kinds of different
businesses, situations,militaries, civilians.
So what is this group goingthrough?
(22:26):
Why am I here speaking to them?
What have I been through thatthey can really relate to?
You know, I try to find thatand just speak from the heart.
I think that helps and, ofcourse, the business side that
you need.
For all of this I have to thankmy wife.
She is the mastermind behindthe scene of everything I do
running a nonprofit, thespeakers bureau, the comedy gigs
, the flyers.
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She does all that.
I just take all the credit.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
There you go.
You know that's what they say.
Behind every great man is anamazing woman, and you
definitely have an amazing oneJamie's awesome.
So let's get into people.
Nowadays, I think, also like tostay comfortable.
But if you're stayingcomfortable, you can't really
chase growth.
So what would you say togetting out of your comfort zone
(23:14):
?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I think to help me get out of my comfort zone and
to push me forward is the peoplethat are putting my life.
You know the occupationaltherapist for bugging me to try
to stand up.
Amy for putting things outthere and pushing me.
There's times I don't want todo stuff.
No, I don't want to do that,I'd be a little baby.
She pushes me.
You know the management teams,the people you put around you
(23:35):
friends and family that push you, that believe in you.
That's what helps me keeppushing forward.
Without those people I wouldprobably all right, I'm just
going to go hiking, I'm going togo fishing and I'm not going to
talk to anybody.
But they help push me when Ifeel like I can't do it, when
that fear starts to take overwhich it does sometimes like
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look what you've done already,why would you stop now?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And they're the ones that push me forward for sure.
No, that's so powerful havinggood, positive people around you
that love and care, and I thinkpeople need to find that if
they don't have it sure?
So you want to give any hintson how you find those positive
people?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
but people that bring joy to you, if you feel joy
with them.
Those are the people.
If they're talking negative allthe time, you know those people
out there that constantlythey'll put put stuff on
Facebook and you're like whywould you put that out there?
Why would you put that onsocial media?
That's more personal, that'stoo much.
You know, if a struggle you'vebeen through I've been through a
struggle.
This is how I got through it.
(24:33):
If you need help, put that outthere.
But some people just put somepersonal stuff and talk about
others when they just reallyshould.
Those are the people you stayaway from.
You hear it all the time.
You know it doesn't matter ifit's friends, family.
Sometimes you got to cut familyoff.
If they're too negative, theygot to go.
It's hard sometimes.
Don't let people drag you down.
There's a lot of veterans I tryto help and then they really
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don't want the help.
They want the attention and youtry to help them time after
time and eventually you got tocut ties Like here's everything
you need when you're ready,you're serious, here's all the
information you need, here's whoyou can go talk to.
Call me then, but other thanthat, I'm gone because you're
dragging me down too, and Ican't have that and you can't
(25:16):
have that Exactly, and I thinkthat's setting boundaries and
setting boundaries is soimportant.
People are afraid to do thatnowadays because I think they
(25:37):
might hurt somebody's feelingsor oh, our relationship's going
to be different.
But you know what, sometimesyou need a different
relationship.
Me, I'm going to go this way,you go that way, I just I do the
old school.
I slip away, slip away, slipaway Slowly.
Eventually they get to here,right, if not?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
then I got to go all right this doesn't work.
And for any of younon-paratroopers out there,
that's one of the jokes Slipaway, because that's what you do
.
You got to slip away from theguy you're going to collide with
, or whatever, or tree, oh, slipaway, it doesn't work really
fast.
It takes time oh no, yeah, youbetter be thinking ahead of time
.
Yes, you're going to slip away,like you know, a minute before.
(26:12):
Yeah, exactly, but no, that'sfantastic.
I love that you know we'resharing and letting people know,
because I think you hit thenail on the head, where a lot of
people view from the outsideand they're like, oh, they
figured it all out, you know, oh, he's a comedian, he's
successful.
Now, look at, he doesn'tstruggle with it.
Oh me, oh Dan wrote the assetmindset.
(26:34):
You know, he obviously is alwayspositive.
No, man, you're a human being,you're going to struggle.
It.
A human being, you're going tostruggle.
It's a condition, it's how youdeal with it and I love that.
You even said taming, becauseyou do, you got to tame those
thoughts and the more you trainyour brain that electrical
wiring you were talking aboutand shift, are there any
techniques that you use for likeshifting, for self-awareness,
(26:56):
as far as when you start havingthat negative thought come in
your head, is there somethingyou're like, ooh, light bulb, I
need to think this way or dothis?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I kind of turned into a high school
football coach with a sailor'smouth, right, I yell at myself
what are you doing?
What the fuck do you thinkyou're doing?
You're a dumbass, stop doingthis.
You know you got to get outthere, get back up, all right,
but I'm just going to take a napand then I'll try it.
I'm going to take a nap andthen I'm going to go back and
try this, but I do.
I sometimes have to yell atmyself.
(27:25):
So sometimes I need that, thatthat yelling of discipline, and
sometimes I self motivate bypositive reinforcement to myself
Like you got this, you're doing, doing good, it's funny, you
got to keep trying this, you gotto keep trying that.
And again, surrounding yourselfwith those people that see it
and they go hey, you doing allright, they check on you and
they help remind you to keepgoing, for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, I love that.
The be your own coach andthat's what I talk about Be your
greatest asset.
So if you're being your owncoach, like nobody can be in
your head more than you can,like they're not going to know
what you're thinking, so youneed to be able to coach
yourself better than anybodyelse to know what you're
thinking, so you need to be ableto coach yourself better than
anybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
It's good to have positive people around you but,
yeah, you're your biggest critic.
You're going to hurt yourselfthe most.
Nobody else is stopping you,it's you're stopping yourself.
I stopped myself by not havingthose positive thoughts.
Um, and of course, you go backto those days where you write
positive stuff around your house, put it on your mirror If you
have to look at every day, havea quote, a favorite song you
listen to every morning to helpkind of trigger that positive
thought.
You have choices, so you got totake that choice to have a good
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day.
Bad things are going to happen,but you got to choose to react
to it.
And anger, depression, allthese negative kind of feelings
are.
They're not necessarily bad,they're true human feelings.
Embrace.
I tell people to embrace thosefeelings in a controlled
environment.
Like I said sometimes, I justgot to take a nap, I just can't
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deal with that day.
I'm going to take a nap, I'mgoing to restart.
Not everybody can do that.
Not everybody's.
Retired Can't just say I got toget to work.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I give myself a pity pot timeout.
It I give myself a pity pottimeout.
It's like I'm so freaking madtoday this stupid shit's
happening.
I'll go in the closet and punchclothes or have a punching bag
at your house if you don't wantto break your hangers.
Cry, curl up in a ball and justcry.
Let it out in a controlled.
These are natural feelings.
You start balling all that upand it's going to turn in a bad
(29:18):
situation.
During road rage in publictraveling.
You're in a bad situation.
During road rage in publictraveling.
You're going to get angry andlash out at somebody else that
doesn't deserve it in thesituation you don't want to be
in.
So do it in a controlledenvironment.
Get those feelings out.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
You don't want it to build upand you snap, you know, and
things will trigger you in life.
You know we all get triggered.
And there's a new thing I'vecome across in some of my
studies and you know I'm alwaystrying to improve, improve my
fighting position, improve mymental position is you know how
people say things trigger you.
Will you just mention somethingthat you use or put things up
(29:55):
around the house, or letters orsigns or whatever it is?
That's a song, those areglimmers.
So you have triggers and youhave glimmers.
So you have triggers and youhave glimmers.
Glimmers are the things thatmake you feel good and you can
put those around in a sense totrigger you in a positive way.
So you have glimmers ofpositive things or things that
you believe in.
You know a picture of someoneyou love.
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So when you get up in themorning you're like, oh, I don't
want to get out of bed, andthen you see a picture of your
daughter or your dog or whateveris your passion, like those
things.
You can put glimmers aroundyour house, around your life, to
combat the triggers.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I like that oh yeah, feel free to steal.
Steal that glimmers, I thinkthat's a good one too.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I got I was like man.
I like that, cause everybody'sworried about what triggers me.
What triggers me Well, whatmakes you feel good.
I like that because everybody'sworried about what triggers me.
What triggers me Well, whatmakes you feel good.
Put out some glimmers.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know that's always saying what's strong with
you Now what's wrong with you?
Good, focus on what's wrongwith you, what's strong with you
.
Look at your glimmers.
I like that.
I'm going to be glimmeringtoday.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yay, we both are, get a shiny shirt.
No, I love it, bobby, and Ijust man your smile and your
honesty and opening up, I think,is just it's shedding so much
light because so many people areafraid to share what you share,
and I think that's amazing andthat's one of the reasons why I
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wanted you on here, because Iwant people to learn from you.
I want people to understandthat it is a struggle.
There's no magic bullet, thereis no one thing.
You just have to keep workingand keep pushing, and the more
you do it, the easier it becomes.
And the first step, I think, issituational awareness and
(31:37):
understanding what your beliefsare.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
For sure, definitely.
Look around you, look at yoursituation.
Where are you are?
What do you think about that?
For sure, definitely.
Look around you, look at yoursituation, where are you at, how
do you get out of it?
I mean, you can look around andsee like, okay, there's a bomb,
there's a bomb there.
I should go this direction.
That's negative, this ispositive.
I'm going to go that way.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
For sure, you got to have situational awareness, look
at your strengths, look forthose glimmers, use those
positive thoughts and keeppushing forward.
Exactly so.
What do you see in the future,five years out from you?
What are you?
What are you looking at?
What are your goals?
Cause I always talk aboutsetting goals and then maybe
(32:15):
backwards plans.
So obviously yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
No.
Jamie and I talk about this allthe time is was when do we slow
down?
We're going to slow down thisyear.
That didn't happen.
We're planning on slowing downa little more next year.
We'll see if that happens.
I don't think it is, but yeah,there's probably five years down
the load.
It is a load.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It's a load to carry man.
Five years is a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
There's no way we can't stop our personalities and
who we are.
We'll never stop giving backand doing our mission.
We'll definitely slow down.
So my big thing is I want tohave that one comedy special out
there.
Boom, it's out on social mediaNetflix or whatever and people
can always refer to that whenthey need it.
And then that gives us time toslow down and just more focus on
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the nonprofit.
Doing about four retreats ayear, a couple of little
fundraisers and then spendingtime with our grandkids.
That's where we want to be infive years for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, grandkids and children, that's our real legacy
.
Yeah, you know, and we canteach them.
So you mentioned yourfoundation, again a nonprofit.
Share more with the listeners,like what are you doing and how
can they connect?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, so it's the Bobby Hinlein Foundation Forging
Forward.
I forge forward through thefire.
How do I show others to forgeforward through the fire that
they're going through, throughwhatever battle they have?
And so, again, it's those toolsthat I've learned, whether it's
writing stuff down, poetry,songs, physical labor and making
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a knife out of a railroad spike, actually forging something,
painting any kind of art form.
Again, we talked about mothernature, hiking, kayaking,
fishing all these things help.
So we do retreats and smallretreats eight to 10 veterans
and first responders and we,each one of them, we have an
outlet that we learn, whetherit's kayaking, golfing, fishing,
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stuff like that we got to do.
We do a we would callreflection art, where I walk you
through an art program andanybody can paint.
You don't have to be this greatpainter, it's your art, your
idea, your view of yourself thatI walk you through.
You paint't have to be thisgreat painter.
It's your art, your view ofyourself that I walk you through
.
You paint it.
I'm not a psychiatrist, I callit therapeutic art, but if it
helps you hopefully it helped me.
(34:29):
So far it's helped a lot ofothers we do that project real
simple and again, that's justthat camaraderie, Someone else,
building a group of friends thatcan call on each other when
they need it.
We have the body shop.
Any veterans that have lost alimb in the war and they need to
be refitted.
You know they don't have themoney to travel back to get it
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refitted or get the new, updatedones.
We have an anonymous donor thatwill pay their airfare, their
hotel, give them per diem whilethey're there getting the
prosthetic fitted on and stuffwhich could take up to two weeks
to refit and stuff.
So we have the body shop forthat.
We have all American dining.
Everywhere we go we see firstresponders, veterans.
(35:11):
We like to pay for their meals.
So we have that program too.
Jamie and I do that.
We just paid in Springfield,missouri.
We just bought.
Eight firemen came in and ofcourse, you know know we love
our firemen.
Everybody thinks I was afireman but you know I wasn't.
Well, not professionally.
There's that one time but, yeah,yeah, yeah, we had all american
(35:32):
dining.
We had the remembrance tags.
We talk about suicide again.
All this is to prevent suicide,right, and we like to share
that.
You don't say committed suicide, it's not a crime.
They died by suicide.
We have 200 veterans names thathave died by suicide, all
combat veterans, and we collectmore names.
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So if you have any names, we'lltake them.
We make dog tags out of them.
We call remembrance tags theirname, their rank, their branch,
a dash for their life, so it'snever forgotten.
On the other tag it saysForging Forward, what's strong
with you, and I give these outat my retreats to the veterans
that are there to take a notewith me that they won't do the
same thing.
They'll use these tags as areminder of their strength and
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know that suicide's not anoption.
We got to keep living for thosethat have paid the ultimate
sacrifice and these ones thathave died by suicide.
I reflect back to when I thoughtabout suicide.
You know those first couple ofyears when I didn't understand
why would I take myself out toprotect my family?
It's not that I couldn't handlelife.
Now I got to handle it in adifferent way because of what
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we've been through.
We're all normal for thesituations that we've been
through.
That's how it is when ithappens.
So when we think about it and Iknow when they the situations
that we've been through, that'show it is when it happens.
So when we think about it, andI know when they the one that
have died by suicide they'retrying to protect their family
and friends.
They think that they can'thandle that.
I mean, there was times I wasin a drive-through and I
couldn't even order for my kids.
I'd have to drive out of thedrive-through.
(36:55):
I couldn't stand in the line ofmovie theater because I we feel
bad for our family, because ofour choices, that they got to go
through this.
But they are our family, theylove us, they want to help us
through this stuff.
But I get why we have those darktimes in that moment, why we do
take our lives sometimes.
So we try to prevent that bybuilding these tools.
(37:17):
So I know that those guys,those men and women that have
died by suicide, had just lost abattle to a wound that they
sustained in a war zone.
Them die by suicide is the samething for me going in for
another surgery because of mywounds and I don't come out from
that.
It's those wounds that Ieventually took my life.
(37:37):
It's the same thing for them.
So I want them to rememberfurther strength and I want us
to know the best way we canhonor.
Whether a suicide, excuse me oractually in when you burn your
throat, you need lots of water.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I thought you might have been doing something else I
don't know I would never.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I would never be crying or acting like a sailor.
There's that you were, yes, butthe best way to honor the
following is to live your lifeto the fullest.
Don't waste the life you'vebeen given.
Don't let them die in vain.
Take advantage of our freedomsthat we do have here.
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Don't abuse them.
There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Take advantage of them no, absolutely honoring the
fallen is that that's so muchstrength and power there.
You know, I seriously, probablyat least once a week, really
look at my arm and reflect onguys that I'm like.
You know what I got to keeppushing for you.
You know, I didn't want to besomeone that stands up and talks
(38:43):
.
I didn't want to be in thespotlight.
I didn't necessarily want tohave a podcast or be this author
, but it's you know what.
No, this is the right thing todo.
God's put me on this path andI'm going to play my cards and
life the best I can to honor thepeople and that's why I like
bringing guests like you on thatare living with that same
purpose, because I talk about inthe book.
(39:03):
You know you don't have to bespecial forces to have the asset
mindset.
You got it.
Other people have it, othersuccessful people have it.
But if you do want to go toselection and be special forces,
you damn well better have anasset mindset, because they're
not going to want you on a team,because you need to be an asset
and always remember, you know,we are our greatest asset or our
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greatest liability.
Yes, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
And, like you said, you're doing it, it's your
platform, it's there for you.
It came naturally, becauseRoosevelt's quote I love is do
what you can with what you havewhere you're at.
It's that simple.
People think I got to have allthis money, I got to be smart, I
got to do.
No, it's little things.
Whatever's in front of you thatyou can do, you had this, you
had this platform, your asset,mindset.
(39:47):
You say no, let me share thiswith others.
How I did it, how I do it.
And then, okay, how do I takethat further?
Is it getting out to morepeople?
The platform of having thepodcast and everything and, of
course, your story with, if youdon't ask, you'll never know.
Hey kid, do you need abodyguard?
Hey, kid, do you need abodyguard?
(40:08):
Can I work?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
with you.
Who does that?
That's awesome yeah.
And life see, that's one of theother thing.
I love that you brought thattopic up because that's
opportunities in life.
Like my life completely changedbecause of that one acting.
Your life is completely changedbecause of one action.
So, listeners out there, you'reliterally one opportunity, one
event, one thing from change inthe course of your life.
So, listeners out there, you'reliterally one opportunity, one
event, one thing from change inthe course of your life.
(40:29):
You can do it.
You know, understand that it'snot this impossible task.
You know.
Yeah, it might take some workand it might take some time, but
one thing can change.
You know, and people say like,ooh, nine out of 10 businesses
fail, change.
You know.
And people say like, ooh, nineout of 10 businesses fail.
(40:50):
Well, that means I only have to, you know, swing 10 times.
You know it's like, come on,let's get with the program right
.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Look at these hockey players.
I mean they take shot after.
There's like 50 shots on goal.
Only two went in and but theycan win with that.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
That's you and your life out there, like you can do
it.
So, for those that don't knowand are watching and listening
to this, so I was down in theBahamas and I had just gotten
off active duty, I wascelebrating my birthday and Kid
Rock was down in the Bahamas hedoes a lot of stuff for the USO
and supporting the troops isvery patriotic, as most people
(41:24):
know, and I just had to go upand say thank you to him and he
was like oh, are you in?
And I'm like no, I'm not in, Ijust got off active duty, you
know.
But last year I was inAfghanistan for my birthday,
kicking indoors and whatnot.
He's like well, let's have adrink.
We started hanging out, I'mthanking him for supporting the
troops, he's thanking me for myservice turned into a three-day
(41:46):
affair.
We became friends and now it's18 plus years.
Um, I worked for him for likefive years and it's been amazing
, and all of that because I wason the beach and I wasn't afraid
.
Well, I'm going to lie to you alittle.
I guess I was a little afraidto talk to him, but I had that
fuck it attitude, to be blunt,and I I'm like this is an
opportunity and I want to pay itforward and give him gratitude.
(42:10):
And when you're doing thosepositive things, people take
notice.
I mean he noticed.
He said from the very beginningjust how I talked to him and
how I acted.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I wasn't there for anything, you're just saying hi,
like I got a chance to say hito kid rock, that's it.
You didn't know it's it wasgoing to turn into more.
You know it's awesome.
It's a thing, opportunitieslike that's happened to me.
There's some doors I probablyshould have opened and I didn't
try.
It's like I don't want tobother that person type thing,
but there's ones I have.
Or a mutual friend introducesme to somebody.
For instance, two years intodoing comedy I get introduced to
(42:49):
Brad Garrett from EverlessRaymond and he's like hey, so I
heard you're doing comedy.
Yeah, I heard you on a club inVegas.
Oh, you want to do Vegas, allright.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
And he gave me a shot , like you don't know Absolutely
, and that's the thing you know.
People, you're alive still.
Amazing things can happen.
Everybody out there.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Just because you're alive doesn't mean you're living
.
You got to keep going and keepliving.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I do like that too, because we talk about in the
army.
You're droning.
Don't be droning in life, Don'tjust be going through the
motions.
Don't do that.
Find a passion, find a purposeand if you don't know what it is
, go for a walk, figure it out.
Yeah, a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I say my angels talk to me when I'm walking or
running or at the gym.
It's funny If I'm working out Igot gangster rap on.
I just love working out thegangster rap.
I've got a little weight onthere just going to town.
But thoughts come to me, ideascome to me when I'm doing that
and I say my angels are talkingto me, giving me advice in life
and watching out over me.
Though, like you said, thosefour men are tattooed all over
(43:47):
me.
They're hanging in my truckEverywhere I go.
They're reminders around me.
I mean, not a day goes by thatI don't think about them and
their families.
Every day is Memorial Day.
I think for all veterans andespecially us, that we're in
situations like that where welost ones really close to us.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, there's a few that it's Thank
God I wasn't in your situation,but I know a lot of people were.
I got a good buddy, dave Nunez,who was in a vehicle and he
went through some horriblethings.
My buddy, josh Whitaker greatguy, we bonded so much and we
deployed first time together andliterally I'm on getting on a
(44:29):
bird to go on a mission andsomebody has a memorial pack on
their sleeve and it sayswhittaker, and I'm like
whittaker, I know.
And then I'm like what, whoa,whoa, whoa, whoa?
I found out, literally going todo a hit, that one of my best
buddies that was, he was onanother ODA and whatnot.
(44:49):
But I'm like Holy shit, likethat night let's just say I was
pretty amped up and kickingdoors wasn't hard.
But uh, no, you, you, you havethese things that happen and
find strength from them.
Honor those people and I lovethat you're doing that.
Bobby, I connected with youright away from the beginning
(45:13):
because your heart is real and Iappreciate you so much and I
think you are being so brave andcourageous and getting out
there and beating down the pathfor others to follow you and
you're making a difference and Iwant to continue to support you
in any way I can.
That's why I wanted to have youin here, share your foundation,
(45:33):
share your work, because you'rejust an amazing human being and
when you're having those suckmoments, try and think of me, if
you can.
I know you got other peoplethat are more important, but,
like, seriously, I'm so proud ofyou Shirt on or off, I might be
doing the helicopter, who knows.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, here wego.
(45:54):
No, but really, bobby, you'regreat and I want to make you cry
.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I'm trying to make you cry you know I have a big
cry, baby.
I was just crying about talkingabout my golf game the other
day.
It was ridiculous.
I was sharing my story to agroup of long, long range
reconnaissance.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
It's so hard to say that word.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
So I had to.
They were having a reunion Iwas speaking to them about
everything.
The Lurse, the Larp and Lurse,yeah, so I was talking to those
guys and and I just thoughtabout my golf game, pushing
yourself through somethingthat's hard to do I went in I
never golfed before and so Ibroke, you know, 100 finally,
and then the other day I shotlike a 92.
I'm like, I'm bawling andcrying, I'm calling my wife.
(46:36):
I just didn't do it.
I've heard golf, but yeah, I'ma big baby.
I'm definitely a big baby.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
That's all right.
We are all a baby at times,yeah.
But I just want to go back alittle bit and I want you to hit
again on where do you find yourstrength?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Again, my strength I find in myself that I have to
look for.
But the best part about findingmy strength is the people
around me, the ones that I'velost their families, to keep
going for them, to be an examplefor my children.
And the people around me that Iput around me.
That push me.
That push me when they know,they see they know me good
(47:17):
enough that they know you're notgiving it all today.
You're holding back and theypush me and they give me
sometimes it's smack in the head, push and sometimes it's more
positive reinforcement that youknow they pump me up.
I know you can do this.
You got this.
Jamie's favorite saying to sayevery time I go on stage is kick
a moon and catch a star.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Well, you're the star , so I guess you just gotta, you
know, kick a moon.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, she caught the star.
Yeah, oh man, she cut the star.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah, oh man, no, jamie's fantastic.
Love you, jamie, out there.
I'm sure you're somewherelistening, hiding in the other
room.
Now, bobby, you're just man.
I'm at a loss for words so muchbecause you make me smile, you
make me laugh, you inspire me.
You're doing all the things youreally are.
(48:05):
Appreciate it, thank you.
You know me.
You're doing all the things youreally are.
And you know I I did a show nottoo long ago with this other
gentleman, george Hayworth, andhe talks about, you know,
telling other guys that hey,you're doing a good job, or I'm
proud of you, cause men don'treally do that, and that's a
lesson I've kind of learnedthrough him, and you know my
growth as a human being.
So that's probably why I'mlaying it on a little thick,
(48:26):
because it's a new awareness forme.
I'm going to tell guys.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
I'm proud of them.
I try to do that.
You know, whenever, whenever Ispeak and speaking again,
especially when I'm sharing mystory, it's like hey, you know,
today I get to share my story,I'm the reminder.
There's days I need to bereminded and we all have a story
.
Everybody in that room has astory, no matter what they've
been through with military ornot, they've struggled through
something we all share.
Our stories is how we help eachother out.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Exactly, absolutely.
You said it.
You know you got to share yourstory and for people out there
that if you're in isolation moderight now, you got to break out
of that.
You have to.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
And I always get people telling me well, bobby, I
hate to complain to you aboutthis because I haven't been
through what you've been throughand they think I've been
through something worse.
But really, physically maybe,depending on what you've been
through, I've been throughphysically but the hardest part
is mentally.
So I don't care what you'vebeen through, it's the hardest
thing you know mentally.
It's equal to the hardest thingI know mentally, it's the same.
(49:26):
You can do it, you can do it.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
So how would you help someone that is struggling and
that you know a lot of peopleturn in and isolationism.
How do we touch those peopleand help them?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
That is a difficult question.
Why'd you ask no?
But just seriously, I mean, ifsomeone doesn't want help, it's
so hard and they need thoseother people to nudge them and
push them to help somebody elsewith the heart.
To get to someone who's readyfor help, it's just ask, talk,
(50:01):
keep sharing, keep talking tothem, asking them questions.
They'll be scared to ask themquestions, but it's so hard.
If that person isn't ready tobe helped, you can't help them.
But hey, if you keep asking youready, how about now?
You feeling it today?
Keep coming back to them andchecking on them.
Eventually they'll be like allright, let's do this.
And baby steps, baby steps.
(50:22):
Like you said, go for a walk.
That's going to help.
Being out in Mother Nature,going for a simple walk, a drive
.
Take a back country road, gofor a drive.
Look at the beauty on thefields.
I love that.
Seeing the old barns, thelivestock, that stuff makes me
happy to see that.
It triggers the brain and getsit going.
So little things like that.
Taking them for a ride If youcan talk them to get in the car
(50:44):
with you, hey, let's just go fora ride.
We ain't got to talk to nobodyelse, we ain't got to be in
public anywhere, let's just gofor a ride.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, and there's beauty out there.
That's one of the things Ithink people forget.
There's a lot of bad shit inthe world, there's evil in the
world, but you, it's going toget their brain going and just
let natural conversation.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
You don't have to start digging to start talking
and let national come outnaturally.
That's how you can helpsomebody help a buddy.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, just be in there with someone by their side
.
Yeah, you might have somesilence for a little while, but,
like you said, you take in thebeauty, you share that moment
and you never know where it maylead, right?
So I think that's reallyimportant Now.
Never know where it may lead.
So I think that's reallyimportant.
Now I want to give you theopportunity.
There's one last thing that ifyou had you know you're a
(51:32):
comedian and whatnot, and I knowyou have your jokes but if you
had a magic wand and you were asorcerer and you could enlighten
everybody with one thought orone idea, what would it be Like?
What would you leave theaudience If you could change
idea?
What would it be Like?
What would you leave theaudience if you could change
them?
What?
Speaker 2 (51:49):
would that thing be, my God, if I could make
everybody just love themselves.
Love themselves.
I battle with it.
I struggle, everybody does.
If we could all just learn tolove ourselves every day,
unconditionally, it would be allright.
What happened yesterday wasyesterday.
That's another chapter.
You got a new chapter to writetoday, so don't wait for new
year.
Start writing a new chaptertoday.
(52:09):
Love yourself.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Absolutely Love yourself, bobby.
That was fantastic and amazingand I can't think of anything
else that wouldn't be, you know,a better high note to end this
on, because, absolutely,listeners out there love
yourself.
That's been the best answer Ithink I've heard and I don't
(52:33):
think you can get any better,because love is a powerful thing
.
Thank you for listening to theAsset Mindset Podcast.
Thank you, bobby, for being onhere.
It was an honor to connect withyou again and have you on the
show.
You really helped share somepowerful things.
Love yourself, audience.
Don't forget to follow, likeand subscribe.
Share this with you if you havesomeone that needs to have a
little love or learn to lovethemselves and needs the asset
(52:55):
mindset.
So thank you once again.
Thank you, bobby.
God bless, own your power.
You.
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