Davi Millsaps: Motocross, Mindset, and Mental Toughness

In this high-octane episode of The Asset Mindset podcast, host Daniel Fielding sits down with former AMA Supercross star and 450SX runner-up Davi Millsaps for a raw and motivational conversation about racing, resilience, and the power of mindset.

From dominating the motocross circuit to coaching the next generation of riders, Davi shares how discipline, belief, and personal accountability shaped both his championship career and his post-racing life. He opens up about the mental battles behind the gates, navigating injuries, team dynamics, and the personal growth required to transition from elite competitor to mentor.

This episode dives into the mindset of champions—what separates average from elite, how to overcome fear, and why surrounding yourself with the right people is crucial for long-term success. Whether you're a racer, entrepreneur, or someone chasing purpose, Davi’s story will inspire you to embrace discomfort, lead with passion, and stay relentless in pursuit of your goals.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Davy Millsap and His Journey

03:05 Overcoming Fear and Building Discipline

05:59 The Power of Belief in Achieving Goals

08:51 Transitioning from Professional Athlete to Mentor

12:05 Finding Passion and Purpose in Life

14:59 The Importance of Surrounding Yourself with the Right People

17:47 Team Dynamics and Attitude in Sports

21:03 Lessons from Davy's Career and Life Struggles

32:10 Navigating Challenges and Mental Resilience

37:21 The Importance of Tough Love and Accountability

41:57 Memorable Races and Competitive Spirit

50:22 Lessons from the Past: Surrounding Yourself with the Right People

58:52 Overcoming Physical Challenges and Recovery Mindset

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
so today on the asset mindset podcast, I'm honored to
have a friend and a colleagueand I can call him an asset
mindset teammate davy milzap,professional motocross
supercross, like incrediblehuman being, what he's doing now
, transitioning over into theMillsap mindset, sharing

(00:30):
mentorship with the nextgeneration of riders, he's doing
amazing things.
I actually was privileged to doan event with him one time in
Lake Havasu.
It was amazing and we justbonded and connected because,
even though he's not SF, he doeshave the asset mindset.
So welcome, davey.
Why don't you tell thelisteners a little bit about
yourself?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I mean, man, I started riding dirt bikes when I
was three, Turned pro when Iwas 15.
Missed the first race becauseyou have to be 16.
So technically, I guess I was16 when I had my first pro race.
So technically, I guess I was16 when I had my first pro race.
I was pro for 15 years, had ahead injury and ended my career

(01:17):
just a year short.
And then I sat for a few yearstrying to get my health back
together, trying to get my brainback together, who I was.
And then I got a phone call tostart training riders uh, riders
in the industry that are tryingto become somebody and that
kind of tumbleweeded intoworking with them on the dirt
bike, off the dirt bike, andthen the mental side of things
as well, which is whereMillsap's mindset was born.

(01:39):
Um, you know it's, for me itriding dirt bikes is one of the
most physically demanding sportsin the world.
I'm 36 surgeries deep and I'm37 years old.
You know I don't notice howmuch pain I'm in every day.
I don't really care.
You know I have to wake up.
You know, do what I have to do.

(01:59):
Same with my guys.
You know they have to gothrough dislocated shoulders.
They have to ride throughbroken bones, they have to ride
through, you know, bum knees and, and you know, one guy this
year ripped his intestines inhalf and, and you know, broke
his ribs, broke his arm and he'sbeen back for a month and a
half now riding.
So it's like you have to dealwith these things, you have to
go through them and you have tomentally overcome all the

(02:22):
obstacles, because I don't carewho you are, I don't care how
bad of a dues you are, you knowyou're good, you know when you
get on the dirt bike, you have achance of hitting the ground,
you have a chance of dying, youhave a chance of of going out of
there in an ambulance, you know.
So you, you have to overcomethat because the more you think
about it, the more you fear it,the more likely it is to happen.
Um, so that's kind of where youknow, my whole journey has gone

(02:43):
from amateur to pro to trainer,to mental side of things, with
the guys with no size mindsetand, and you know, do, and then
doing my first event with youand here and have a suit and um,
yeah, I was a little nervous,obviously, but uh, man, it's,
it's.
It's an enjoyment for me towatch the progress of all the

(03:04):
guys that I work with.
I have a cyclist that messagesme weekly asking for advice now,
so it's cool.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's super cool and one of the things I want to
commend you and everybody inyour sport.
You guys are badasses.
Everybody's like, oh, greenBerets, navy SEALs and all that.
Yeah, we beat our bodies up, werisk some things and we do, but
, man, you guys I've seen someof them, wipeouts and other
things that I'm like and thenyou know you, you get a cast on,

(03:33):
you do whatever and you're backright out there and bull riders
.
Same thing, man, pbr guysthey're.
You guys are real toughmotherfuckers to be blunt like
you are.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I appreciate it.
You know it's, you just grew updoing it.
You know like I broke my anklein five spots and I broke both
wrists when I was god, I had tobeen nine years old.
I, nine or ten years old, I didthat.
Um, maybe even, maybe evenearlier, um, I may even been
eight, but I still raced twodays later with two broken

(04:04):
wrists and a broken ankle infive spots, and I didn't finish.
Some kid took me out and myadrenaline went away.
So then, like all the pains, youknow all the pain, but it's one
of those things where itdoesn't matter how bad you're
hurt, it doesn't matter whereyou're at.
The only thing that matters iswhen can I ride again, when can
I get back on that bike?
You know how long do I have towait, and with you know the

(04:27):
doctor says oh, six months isusually four.
So you know, it's one of thosethings that the patients in this
industry doesn't exist.
And it also, I think, is acurse too, because you come back
and you're not prepared.
You come back and maybe you'renot as ready as you thought you
were, because you come back andyou're not prepared.
You come back and maybe you'renot as ready as you thought you

(04:47):
were, but it's just how we areman, that's how we're raised,
it's just life.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, so let's talk about some of that drive and
that passion.
How do we think we can helppeople that are listening right
now, our listeners, to be ableto tap into some of that drive
that you've had and other peoplethat you're coaching to go
after the dreams or, to you know, want to cross that finish line
first, or whatever that goal isthey have.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I mean, I think the first thing is to get rid of the
fear.
You know and I think the fearis the biggest thing that holds
people back from chasing theirdream or going after their dream
.
You know they'll always,they'll always want it, they'll
always.
You know, I have this dream, Ihave this goal, I want to reach
it, but it's always until theyfigure out what it takes to
actually get there, and whetherthat be having to face their

(05:36):
fears or overcome obstacles thatare scary, whether it be, you
know, taking risks, or you know,like for us, getting over the
injuries, or there's a big jumpthat we don't want to do, but we
know if we do it, we're goingto.
You know we're going to get ourgoal of being in the front.
You know and the same goes forany business, or or you know
anything that any kind ofathlete it's you have, you have

(05:57):
fears, everyone has fears.
You know there's no, there's no, uh, there's no way around that
.
But overcoming the fear andpushing through it and facing
the fear head on, I feel like,is probably one of the biggest
things all around that can getyou through to the next step and
give you that drive, becauseonce you go through that first
one, once you face that obstaclethat you're scared to face and

(06:19):
you're like, wow, holy shit,that was sick, time to go.
And then, from there on out,you're hitting the fear like
time to go, you know.
And then, from there on out,you're hitting the fear, you're
facing the fear and you'rediving into it.
You know, because you alreadyknow what it's like, you already
have that confidence.
You already have that boost ofenergy from facing the first one
, now the next one and the nextone and the next one.
You're looking forward to them.

(06:39):
You know that's how it alwayskind of was for for me.
And and because motivation is,you know it's great, everyone
has motivation.
You know I want to, I want tobe ripped, I want to be, you
know, olympia, I want to be this, I want to be that.
But again, you know it's cliche.
But when that four o'clockalarm goes off or that five
o'clock alarm goes off andyou're like I don't know man, my
bed's comfy right now, likethat's where discipline comes in

(07:03):
.
And unfortunately, when itcomes to having that drive, the
discipline you have, you have tohave a discipline isn't, isn't
something that you have, it'sit's.
You know, it's made, it'screated, it's it's it's earned,
it's not.
It's not something that I'mhere.
Here's your discipline, thatdoesn't.
I wish it worked that way.
So that's that's kind of how Ifeel about it.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, it work that way.
So that's that's kind of how Ifeel about it.
Yeah, it would make coaching somuch easier if you could just
be like here's your you know,here's your discipline in this
little brown paper baggie.
Take that, eat it twice a day.
You're good to go.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
You'll have motivation and you'll have
discipline, and they will.
You know they will feed offeach other.
You'll be great.
No, you know you have a littlemotivation in the world, but if
you don't have discipline,motivation means nothing.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah well, that's the concept I talk about in my book
with the asset mindset is, youknow, discipline is the glue
that holds your dream together.
Yep, that's you want to make ithappen and you're building it.
Well, if you don't havediscipline, you're not going to
be able to glue the piecestogether.
You're going to have disciplineso important, and I love it,
and with you talking aboutfacing fear and hitting the

(08:06):
jumps or doing whatever, andeven like guys like us jumping
out of planes, doing the firstjump or whatever, it may be your
first time outside the wire orwhatnot, once you do it I see
you were talking the way thatyou had that belief now, like
you conquered that first jump orwhatever.
You're like wow, I can do it, Ibelieve.
So let's talk about the powerin believing in yourself that

(08:29):
you can do things and how thatchanges the dynamic and whatever
it is you're trying toaccomplish.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I mean, I mean, obviously you know, being a
being a baddest as you are, likeyou had to start from nothing
to become something.
And I, there's no way around.
I mean you can sit here and you, you tower me, you are a big,
big dude and you made me feellike a small little guy for the
first time in a long time.
But at the end of the day, likeyou, you know, you walk around

(08:57):
like people are like, oh dude,like he must be a badass.
But I guarantee you your firstday that you got into whatever
you're getting into with thecream of rice or not, I don't
care who you are.
You're going to have nerves,you're going to have fear,
you're going to have somethingyou know.
And then you go and do yourstuff.
You succeed.
The next day you show up.
You have that much more youknow, you do that much better
and you keep doing it and you doit.

(09:18):
And then you're going to do alittle bit more.
Guess what, by day five or daysix, you are your stature, you
know you are that dude, you're abadass mofo, like it's just who
you are, and I feel like that'skind of how the belief system
works, especially for dirt bikesand just anything is you have
to take that first step and onceyou overcome the fear, now you

(09:39):
have the belief of being able todo what you thought you
couldn't do.
You know, and going through thescenarios of what if?
What if?
What if?
What if I don't?
What if I don't?
You know, it's like if you canflip that to, I am like I'm
going to do this and you startbelieving in yourself because
you may talk about it, you maybe a big talker, but

(09:59):
subconsciously, deep down, youhave that doubt.
You know there is always thatdoubt subconsciously, so it's
going to overpower.
No matter how much of this youwant to do, your subconscious is
always going to win.
And so for me, like, if you'regoing to talk, you have to then
pursue it, because you're goingto then teach your subconscious
that you are in charge.

(10:19):
You know you're going to do itand you're going to believe it
just takes I feel like it onlytakes one or two, maybe three
things for you to actually do tofully believe.
You know, like the kids I workwith, right now he's at the
track ride.
Right now he's sending mevideos of him doing jumps that
he's never done before and he'slike I'm back.

(10:40):
You know it's like you neverwent anywhere.
But the fact that you stoppedbelieving in yourself, now
you're starting to do thingsthat how you used to do them.
Now you're getting that beliefsystem back.
You know it's just going out ofthis comfort zone a little bit

(11:00):
to where, once you do that, dude, sky's the limit.
You know your comfort zone isyour death.
It's the death of you, it's thedeath of your business, it's
the death of anything, anythinglike you're never going to go
anywhere.
So that's kind of like thewhole belief thing.
I feel like the belief.
When you say belief, you'rejuggling or you're bunching it
all of it in one big box,because belief, I think, is the
is the most powerful one thatyou can do, because if you
believe in yourself, thenanything is possible.
But you actually have to makethe conscious decision to rule

(11:24):
yourself off, just to pushthrough it.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, and that's all part of mindset.
You have to get in that mindset.
You need to learn to make thatshift.
So I'm going to ask you did youhave that shift just innately,
like in your head, or was therelike a hard moment in your life
where you realized like I needto make this shift or this
change or I'm not going to beable to do what I want to do?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's a tough question, that's a loaded
question.
So, like, as an amateur, I wasprobably one of the most, not
the most, one of one of the most, I would say, winning this
amateurs to ever race a dirtbike.
Um, it, it came easy, it waseasy.
It was, you know, winning races, going to the track, doing the

(12:13):
motos, doing the little workoutsthat we had to do.
Um, you know, because my momhad, we had a motorhome and
trailer we traveled the countrywith, and my mom had a pull-up
and dip bar built onto thetrailer.
We had jump ropes, punching bag.
We had to do all that everymorning, every night, when we
were done.
It did not matter If we weretraveling, we were driving

(12:34):
somewhere.
Wherever we stopped, we had togo put the pull-up bar and dip
bar and we had to do it all.
It didn't matter.
So, like all that stuff came soeasy.
But so, like all that stuffcame so easy.
But as soon as you go pro andyou kind of have that humbled
moment, you know, because you'regoing into big dogs and you're
going into guys that are, are,that have been there and and are
really really fast, and noweveryone's kind of more on an

(12:55):
equal bike and and it's a wholenother ball game.
So at that moment it's like,okay, you got to make that shift
to start believing in yourselfagain.
You know, like they theyhumbled you, like humbled you
big time and they brought youdown to a level that you've
never been to.
So now, how do you claw yourway back out of it?
And for me it was making thatswitch of I don't care what they

(13:19):
did to me, like I'm coming outof it and I'm going to be back
on top and whatever I have to do, we'll do it.
Um, it was, my career was arollercoaster of that, whether I
believe or not believe, believeor not believe it's like life
right.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's like you know.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But I feel like that's what makes it so, uh, so
good for me to work with theseyoung kids, because I've been
through it all.
You know I was one of the bestand I was one of the fastest, I
was one of the most talented,but I was also lazy and I really
wasn't ever in great shape,except for a few years of my
career where I won achampionship, got runner up
twice in championships in thebig class, got third in one year

(13:58):
, like I mean I have was it over35 podiums, like regardless.
You know it's.
I'm able to relay that to themand and show them hey look, dude
, like I thought my career wasgoing to last forever, but it
doesn't, you know.
And and so that mindset for menow I feel like it was stronger

(14:19):
than it was when I was racingand I I even tell my wife all
the time like I wish I had thismindset now when I was racing,
because I think my career wouldhave been way different.
But all in all, you know, it'sbetter late than never, yeah,
and that's part of the growthprocess and I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
You know professional athletes like you, guys that
are professional soldiers,warriors.
You know like we get stuck inthinking like this is our life
and it's never going to end likeI'm in the military, this is my
job, this is who I am, this iswhat I do, yeah, then you get
towards retirement.
You're like, oh shit, what'snext like what's my next mission

(14:55):
, what who's going to give meorders or what's my next race.
You know what's the schedulelike what, and that's a
challenge for people making thattransition.
So let's talk about transitionsthen, because you've just went
through it, I've transitioned.
How do people say they're atthat spot in their life where
they're going from a career orone thing, or they just want to

(15:15):
transition to something new?
How do they face or take onthat transition with a positive
mental attitude?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, I mean.
For me it was finding passionin what I was getting myself
into.
If I didn't have passion for it, if I wasn't passionate about
it, then it would have been justanother.
It's not 9 to 5, but it wouldhave just been another, let's

(15:44):
say 9 to 5.
It would have been somethingthat didn't do anything for me
and I was going to be miserable.
I was probably going to begrumpy, I was probably going to
be angry and I was going to be,you know, bombed.
You know, four or five yearsdown the road, where you know,
doing what I'm doing now,transitioning from being a
professional motocross racer tonow a trainer a professional and

(16:05):
amateur guys it's or aprofessional and amateur guys.
It's not what I wanted to do.
It wasn't on my list of thingsthat I was going to ever do.
But when I got the phone calland I started doing it, I'm like
you know what?
Like I, like this, like I cando this, you know and I started
going into where I found passionin it.
And once I found passion in it,it became a second career.

(16:35):
It was one of those things thatbecame life.
It gave me a purpose.
So if people are going totransition from one place to
another or one job to anotherjob.
Obviously they're willing toleave the one job because one
they're retired or two they'reover it, so the passion's gone.
But you got to make sure youfind that passion and whatever
that you're going to do so youcan actually give it everything
you have.
Because if you're not willingto give everything you have or
put everything you have into it,then you're only given that

(16:58):
you're going to be half-assedand everything that's what those
results you're going to get.
You're going to get half-assedresults back.
You know, that's kind of whereme putting a hundred% into
everything is because I havepassion for it.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I love that.
That's powerful stuff.
Right there, brother, I meanpassion and purpose.
You need to have passion andpurpose.
If you don't have passion andpurpose in your life.
You're just lost or you're justdroning, as we say, you're just
going through the motions, somepeople call them sheeple,
whatever.
But if you want to be happy,you have to have passion and
purpose, and I love that youbrought that up.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, I mean for three years after, after my
retirement, when I hit my head Ihad my brain injury.
You know it.
Uh, for three years I sat onthe couch, did nothing besides
drive probably my wife nuts, um,but you know it's, um, it's one
of those things that sorry, myheadphones falling apart, um,

(17:53):
it's one of those things thatyou know.
For three years I literally didabsolutely nothing and I was
trying to deal with the traumaof my head and because I, I was
in, I was in a bad place, areally, really bad place, um,
and you know, I mean, I'm gonnajust be honest, I could do.
I was, I was angry, I was mad,I was sad, I was suicidal, I was

(18:14):
all these things, but I couldsee myself doing.
I just didn't know why I wasdoing it.
But then, like you, starteddoing research of brain injuries
and the part of the brain thatI hit would be the frontal lobe.
You know that controls all myemotions and I was going through
like a whirlwind of of emotionsall day, every day, for, you
know, three years.
But I also wasn't doinganything to keep my mind

(18:37):
occupied to where I could fightthrough it a little bit easier.
And then, like I said, once Igot that phone call, you know I
was nervous because of how I wasemotionally and and it was a
rollercoaster.
But once I, once I'm like youknow what, like yeah, like I,
like this, like this, is it,like you know, my whole brain
shifted and it became to where Icould handle, you know, things,

(19:00):
and I became who I was before,which is you know the happy go
lucky, davey, and and more on,like the purpose and the passion
was back.
You know, I had something to.
I have beautiful kids, I have abeautiful wife.
So, yes, a hundred percent, Ilive for them all day long.
But you also have to havesomething for yourself and for
me, and that, to me, is rightnow.

(19:20):
It's my thing, you know, like Ilove it, I have passion for it,
I have drive for it and I wakeup every day and I have a
purpose.
I for it, and I wake up everyday and I have a purpose, I have
something that I have to do andwithout that, like dude I was,
I was struggling for a little,like I said, little three years.

(19:43):
I was struggling heavy, youknow, and and it was to the
point to where I didn't reallyknow what I wanted to do anymore
.
And this like, like you said,the passion and the purpose.
When, once, once it came back,I was.
I was full life again.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, you gotta.
You gotta find your why, youknow your, why, your purpose.
You call it what you want.
But you need that in lifebecause, as human beings, we
desire that we don't realize wedesire it sometimes you know
everybody's like, oh, I justwant to sit on the beach and
have a cocktail and whatever.
Yeah, you do that for a weekand then you're like this is
boring.
I'm sitting and looking at thesame sand and you know like you

(20:18):
need a purpose If you weresailing on the water next to the
beach or doing something else,or hey, let's get a jet ski.
So, yeah, you need purpose.
And why so?
I also want to get intoteammates and tribes.
You know who you surroundyourself with.
I think your wife.
You know she's amazing, stayingby you and helping you.
I know she was a foundation fora lot of your recovery.

(20:40):
Yes, but let's talk about howhaving the right people around
you can make a giant difference,because when we work together
we discussed that a little bitand I think you get it 100%.
You got the asset mindset.
You apply it in life and it'sthe Mills app mindset too, cause
the truth is the truth.
But let's talk about tribeteammates year round.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I mean again, if there's, if there's five
drinkers that you're hanging outwith, you'll be the sixth.
If there's five drug addicts,you'll be the sixth.
If there's five thieves, you'llbe the sixth.
It all just depends on who yousurround yourself with.
And if you surround yourselfwith positive people, you

(21:22):
surround yourself withgoal-oriented and or successful
people, you're going to becomegoal-driven.
You're going to become goaldriven.
You're going to becomesuccessful.
You're going to becomemotivated and driven to be how
they are, if not better.
You hang out with negativepeople.
I don't care who you are, youcan be the most positive dude in
the world.
You hang out with a fewnegative people.

(21:44):
You're going to start gettingglimpses of the negativity and
you're going to start sayingpeople.
You're going to start gettingglimpses of the negativity and
you're going to start saying, ohman, tired today, or I don't
feel like doing this todayversus how you used to be, like,
oh, it doesn't matter, dude,I'm tired, but let's, let's go.
You know it was, I don't wantto do it Like you're going to
start getting how they areversus how you used to be
hanging around the positivepeople.

(22:05):
So for me, it's when yousurround yourself with the right
people, you surround yourselfwith the right teammates, even
if you have bad teammates youtry to stay clear of as much as
you can, even though you have tobe around them sometimes.
But you can still let somethings they say in and out and
focus on you, or you try tobetter them.
You know, like dude, it's notthat bad.

(22:27):
Stop complaining, stop whining,stop being a bitch, you're fine
.
You know, like dude, like it'snot that bad, like, stop
complaining, stop whining.
Like, stop being a bitch, likeyou're fine.
You know, like, do we get toride dirt bikes for a freaking
living?
People would die to have thisjob.
Like shut up.
I wish someone would have donethat to me, but you know it's.
But I was always around.
I had.

(22:49):
I might have been the negativeone, but I was better than they
were.
So I could be.
But that doesn't give me thepass.
You know what I mean.
I could have been way betterhad I had their attitude, had I
had their mindset of being thepositive one.
And, like I said, no matter whoyou're around, eventually
you'll start to lean that way.
And then when I hired my oldwriting coach, he was always
pretty positive about things.

(23:10):
You know he wasn't too negativeabout anything, but he was very
, very crystal clear about whathad to get done.
Did it matter?
And I kind of morphed into that, to where I stopped being so
negative, I stopped being youknow who I was.
I stopped complaining so muchand and and it started changing
the dynamics of my life.
My teammates, everyone becamecloser because everyone was

(23:32):
starting to be more positive.
The whole team, people who Iworked with, who were my
mechanic, my team manager, mycrew chief, everyone was
starting to have that positiveuplifting and just vibing
everywhere.
And it's like okay.
So now you understand what itmeans and what it's like to have
a positive group of peopleversus a negative group of
people and being aroundsuccessful and driven and

(23:55):
passionate people versus onesthat just don't care.
And that, to me, is like I saiddude, you start hanging out with
good people.
You're going to be one of thosegood people.
You, you're gonna be one ofthose good people.
You're gonna be one of thosesuccessful people.
You're gonna have that drive.
You know, if you call me everymorning, you're going to the gym
.
I'm gonna end up one day goingto the gym, I'm not gonna stop.

(24:17):
You know like this is if I hangout with someone that lays in
bed.
I'm gonna lay in bed.
You know it's.
My wife gets up in the morning.
She goes out and works outmakes me feel like a piece of
crap.
So I want to get up and I wantto go.
You know, it's just it's.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
She's out there taking a walk and I'm being a
lazy bum just lying under thisblanket.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I can't have my wife showing me up, exactly so, and
you know, and it's like, dude,like I gotta I gotta go hang out
with this chick in thesummertime, like I I'm I gotta I
gotta look decent, you know.
So it's always that, who youhang out with and what you let
you know, distract you ormotivate you and and push you
along and and I think a lot ofthat has to do with the people

(24:58):
that you surround yourself with.
So that's, you know, I thinkthere's a lot in that and that
tribe teammate situation.
But but again, you know, if Ihung out with you every day,
like I'm hanging out withsomeone who deposited a mindset
like we're going to make shithappen, oh yeah, we are right
now, brother, we're going tomake shit happen when, if you

(25:18):
hang out with someone whodoesn't have the drive, doesn't
have the passion, doesn't havethe motivation, doesn't have you
know, it's very negative.
Should I say, dude, you're notgoing to get anything, you're
going to be trying to drag themalong with you, versus just
cutting the dead weight and thenyou're going to oh, you're
going to slingshot your way backup to where you need to be,
versus because you're draggingthe weight along with you the
whole time and you can't do that.

(25:39):
You can't do that if you wantto succeed.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, it's going to stress you out and have all
kinds of problems.
I share a concept in my bookabout a sponge.
You know, like we're humanbeings, we're all a sponge.
So whatever we're surroundedwith, we absorb.
And if you're dirty, you knowand been in muddy water for a
while you suck up all that filthand that dirt.
But it's weird because when youtake that sponge out of like

(26:10):
dirty water and you put it inclean water and you squeeze it a
few times and it starts gettingclean and then at the point
where it gets clean, you couldtake that sponge that's now
clean and drop it in a muddypuddle.
It's not going to suck up asmuch dirt.
Why?
Because it's already saturatedwith goodness.
So that's kind of what happensin life.
When you already have thatpositivity, you kind of can
repel that dirt.
So if you do get aroundsomebody that's negative or just
having that victim mentality orwhatever it is they have that's

(26:33):
trying to bring you down, well,guess what?
Now you're more resistantbecause you've been around
positive people, people that areclean and healthy and doing
good things, so you're vibing onthat energy instead.
So I think that's so importantfor our listeners and people we
work with, that we coach andwhatnot, to understand that,
yeah, you really need tosurround yourself with good

(26:53):
people.
It's so important.
So can you share a story thatyou shared a little bit?
You were telling me about thebike there was I don't know.
I don't know if we're going tosay any names or make or model,
but you were talking about likeyou got on a team and people
were complaining and whiningabout the bike, like, oh, this
bike's a piece of crap.

(27:14):
And then everybody startedbelieving it and like arguing
and whatnot, something like that.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Just telling you just right now.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
No, you told me before.
I want you to share that storywith the listeners.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
That's not one of those?
Well then, pick one.
Um.
I mean, you know, if you goback to, I would say, my second
year pro um, the bike that Irode was one of the two worst
bikes I ever got to ride.
Um, the second worst bike, Iwould say it was in 2009.

(27:52):
But 2005 was by far one of theworst bikes at that time in that
era and it was breakingconstantly, you know, and
everyone was always trying tofigure out what was going on
with it.
They were blaming me for it,they were blaming the bike, they
were blaming, you know, thevendors, they were blaming, you
know, this person, this person,that person, and then, you know,

(28:13):
they would get to the pointwhere they're being so negative
about it and you know, like weneed to stop riding this one.
We got to figure out somethingelse.
I'm like, just give me the bike, give me what I want and let's
go.
You know, I was 17 years old atthe time and they, finally, I
went through three motors a dayat one point because they kept
breaking um, which is usuallyyou get about, you know, 20, 15

(28:37):
to 20 hours of a motor.
I was going through three a dayat some points Um, which is not
.
It's not very good with theconfidence because you don't.
You don't trust the bike.
It's going to blow up on theface of the jump and that's.
That's not a good thing tohappen.
Oh, it's not so, to say theleast, very much so.

(28:58):
And you know, it got to thepoint to where they started just
sending the motors.
They make them how I wanted.
They got my suspension how Iwanted.
They got the bike how I wanted.
It wasn't the best bike, but youknow, like I I'm having such a
good time, like doing it, likeI'm young, I'm, I'm going fast,
like let's, let's go.
And then I went out the firstrace and I won um, and then it

(29:20):
went from, maybe more, maybe thebike isn't so bad, but like the
bike was still bad, don't getme wrong.
The bike was still bad, buteveryone's attitude changed
towards it and we almost won thechampionship that year.
I lost it due to some kidhitting me, you know, midway
through the season and I didn'tpay attention to what I was
doing because I was young anddumb, and I went around the

(29:42):
finish line one lap on accidentto go to the mechanics area
because my bike was all bent up.
Had I crossed the finish line,that would have given me the
championship.
I would have been in the pointsthat I've been at and there was
only like three rounds to go.
It would have been fine.
But the whole vibe of the teamchanged when we started winning
on a bike that we couldn't keeptogether.

(30:03):
And then you go in 2009 wherethe bike is one of the worst
bikes I think ever made.
Um, and it was a honda, youknow 450 and we had.
There was, I think, four of usthat were on the team and three
of us hated it.
One of us one of them had goodattitude about it and it made it

(30:27):
really tough because everyonehated it.
And the vibe on that team neverreally changed that much until
you know 2010.
So it took a long time forpeople to start realizing like,
okay, let's, let's get going,let's get going.
But, dude, there's so manystories with with bad bites and
bad vibes and bad teams and badteammates.
Um, yeah, it's.

(30:47):
You know 2013 was the best yearthat I had.
I would say that all year, allyear long.
And you know, they doubted mefor a while and started
realizing like, okay, like heknows what he's talking about
he's doing.
My mechanic still one of mybest friends to this day um nice
, he runs the triumph team in inatlanta and but we still talk

(31:08):
constantly when he does answerthe phone.
But you know, it's, it's one ofthose things that after they
stopped questioning me and theystarted believing in me, that's
when we started excelling.
That's when the team started,you know, coming up to the top
and it became a huge team.
It became became, you know, avery well-known team.

(31:29):
Everyone wanted to be on thatteam because they saw what it
could do to somebody you knowthat came off of, I would say,
not so good, to being one of thebest of the time.
So it's just, there's a lot.
It's just my whole career islike this man.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's life man, it's the struggle and trials of life,
and that's that's what I wantlisteners and people to realize.
With you and your story, you'vebeen amazingly successful One
of the most winning motocrossracers in history.
And you've had trouble andstruggles Myself I've had
struggles and trouble and youlisteners out there, you're not

(32:05):
alone.
You're a human being.
You're going to struggle, it'spart of life.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's how you deal with it.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, yeah, there's going to be a tornado, there's
going to be a blizzard, there'sgoing to be whatever, but yeah,
there'll be a sunny day too.
Perfectly calm water happens.
So just enjoy the ride and staypositive.
That's what it comes down to.
So I want to get into a littlebit, too about you now working
with the up and cominggeneration.
Yeah, knowing all these lifelessons you have now, what are

(32:34):
you seeing for struggles forthem?
And then what are you trying toteach them?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Struggles for me that I I mean it's pretty easy is
giving up.
It's really all mental for mostof the guys that I work with.
They like to give in when itgets tough versus pushing
through the adversity.
Pushing through, you feel alittle bit of pain, you know,

(33:01):
not pain like as in, like ouchpain, but like your arms are
burning, your shoulders areburning, your heart rate's at
you know 195.
And you know you're.
You are literally in the redzone for now.
You know 25, 30 minutes and youknow you, you only have five
laps left, but you don't thinkyou can go that distance.

(33:22):
You know, or, or if you'rearound, a lot of guys that
shouldn't be on the track.
We ride public tracks, so thereare, you know, a lot of guys
that are slow or whatnot, alwaysin the way, but they let those
guys dictate how their time onthe track is going to be.
Cause, if we do a 35 minutemoto, which is rather 35 minutes
straight, and we're out therewith, you know, 50 other guys, I

(33:46):
don't care who's out there youdo your moto the best you
possibly can and you don't giveup.
You don't let someone that'syou know, getting in your way
dictate your mindset of of howyou're going to finish or how
the whole mode is going to be.
Um, I see a lot of that.
I see a lot of giving into thesocial media, um, giving into

(34:09):
just thinking that they're ontop of the world.
You know what I mean, um, andgetting a little bit of humble
pie.
But and not listening.
You know, that was that was.
That's something that I feellike I have done my whole life
is not listen when I should havein my career.
Um, and recently he wasn'tlistening.

(34:31):
One of the guys I was trainingwith wasn't listening for a
while, wasn't listening, wasn'tlistening, and a few weekends
ago he's, you know, we've satdown and he's like what am I
doing?
And I said this, you know um andhe was like dude, I know I
wasn't listening, I was beingstubborn and I'm like dude, I
wasn't listening, I was beingstubborn and I'm like dude, like
yeah, and he goes.
I'm like, unfortunately for you, like I kept asking you all

(34:53):
these questions, I kept tryingto see if you needed you know
anything else and you keptsaying no, no, no, I'm like you,
let the the stress of what youclaim wasn't bothering you, you
know, rule you and then youthought you're on top of the
world.
Um, I said I had to let youfall a little bit for you to
come back to start listening,because no matter who was around

(35:14):
you, no matter what you weredoing, you weren't going to
listen.
Um, and he, and he agreed hegoes.
I know I wouldn't listen toanybody, but now it's, you know
he's, the last three weeks he'sbeen on fire with everything you
know, and it's like you know,maybe, I think that might, that
possibly might be the last timethat he needs it, because that's
twice and since I startedworking with him that he's done

(35:36):
it.
Um, you know, and, and this one, this one, was a, a hard
wake-up call.
Um, the other kids that I workwith, just I have that.
They give in when it gets alittle bit tough, you know, and
whether they let where they'retraining or if they're a little
you know, a little windy orroads are rough or having a bad

(35:58):
day.
There's too many people on thetrack.
Tracks, you know, too roughtrack, too smooth.
The bike's not feeling good,it's like it's all these things.
You know I didn't sleep enoughor I sat in traffic.
It's like, dude, I don't care,like I don't care.
I'm not here for that.
I'm here for you to get better.
If you don't want to get better, the truck's there.
You can go home.
You know, like I don't, I don onthat track with me or not on

(36:32):
the track.
I mean like I'm watching you.
If you're on that track and yougive up, it's not going to be
fun for you.
You know I don't deal with thatstuff, man, I travel too much
for them.
I go, I literally go around andyou know 16 hours I drive 16
hours a week sometimes for theseguys and if you're going to
give up on me, then I'll give upon you.
You know how's that going tofeel.
I'm not going to answer yourphone calls, I'm not going to
show up to the shack.

(36:52):
You're going to be wonderingwhat's going on.
That's what I'm doing Everytime you don't show up when you
ride.
I'm wondering what I'm doinghere.
What are you doing?
You know, and it's, it's.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I'm glad you're doing that, though People need that
tough love, they needaccountability.
I think a lot of people don'trealize accountability and how
important that is.
Taking ownership of the thingsLike you talked about oh the
tracks this, or oh, thishappened, or I was stuck in
traffic so I was sitting and youknow my body was tight, or like
excuses.
You got to get rid of theexcuses you have to.

(37:27):
Like excuses, like you got toget rid of the excuses you have.
And I love that you're able toteach these guys and have that
mentorship, that style thatgives them the tough love,
because I think a lot of peopleright now I mean you hear people
talk about, oh, the trophygeneration, everybody gets a
trophy, everybody.
You know wonderful, and no, inlife there's winners and there's
losers.
Yeah, fact, like that's justthe way it is, you know.

(37:50):
So what separates them?
Their mindset, their work,ethic, people they surround
themselves with?
Do they let other people intofear?
And I think it's amazing whatyou're doing.
It really is.
I appreciate that that nextgeneration is very blessed and
lucky to have you.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Thank you.
They really are the no excusesand that's a big one for me.
You know it's, I don't, I don'tcare, you know it's.
I think the.
I think the best thing it wasin, I would say, december of
last year.
We were at the end of bootcamp.
Our bootcamp is when we'rebuilding base, so we're just
doing moto, moto, moto, moto,moto, like there's no no breaks.

(38:27):
It's literally two to threemotos every single day and in
december we start to switch itand we go into.
You know speed, work andtechnique and and the motos
start.
Like you start your moto at yoursprint lap time.
So if you do one lap sprint asfast as you can, you have to be
within I think, three or fourtenths what I did from that lap

(38:48):
time to start your 20-minutemoto or 15-minute moto for the
first four laps.
If you want, you start the motoover.
I don't care if there was twoguys doing it, I don't care if
one does it and the other onedoesn't.
If he's still going, guess what.
You have to start over.
It does not matter to me, Idon't care, I can be out there

(39:09):
when he's done.
He'll go back and he'll get adrink.
He's a big boy, like I'll stillbe out here with you until
you're done, like we're notleaving until you're done.
You know he, I'm like if yousandbag, you sprint lap and you
do this first lap of the motoand you're faster, now your new
time is your first lap.
And so he did, did.
He did that exact thing.
He was faster in the first lapof the moto.

(39:30):
So now his time dropped and thesecond lap he didn't hit it.
So we made him start over andhe's like he's yelling, yelling,
yelling.
I'm like I don't care, go.
So he started over.
He didn't hit it again.
He came back yelling and hetook him three times to do it.
But when we were done, I stillto this day it's still one of my

(39:52):
favorite comments he's like,dude, like I was mother effing
you yelling at you.
And he's like you, like you,look through my soul.
And he's like you didn't care.
And I'm like, why would I?
Like I don't care?
You know, I don't care how madyou are.
You know the fact that he'slike you look through my soul, I

(40:12):
about died.
I'm like, yeah, dude, like youthink I don't care.
I used to have to do the samestuff when I was working with
the guy that I hired at Julesand I got so mad at him.
I went back to my truck, Ithrew the bike on the stand, I
sat there, I took all my stuffoff and I let them sit out there
in the track, the track, andthey weren't coming back.

(40:36):
I'm like, fuck, they're notcoming back.
I'm like they're not comingback, like why aren't they
coming back?
Like, and they just sat there.
They literally sat there.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I'm like I got you and I got my back and I had to
do it.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
you know, and, like dude, there's these memories
that are still embedded in methat you know.
I think that one of you lookthrough my soul is gonna be with
me forever like that was great,that was the best.
I think that one of you lookthrough my soul is going to be
with me forever Like that wasgreat, that was the best comment
I think I've ever heard.
Um, but just things like that.
You know that he didn't carethat I was done like that I
wanted to be done.
He didn't care.
He was sitting out there andguess what?

(41:06):
They had the keys to the truck.
I wasn't going anywhere.
So it's, you know, it is whatit is and that's kind of how I
am with my guys.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
No, that's fantastic.
I love that, yeah.
So I think your mentorship,your leadership style and I
think it's ironic there'sdefinitely.
You know, oh, I don't care, no,you actually do care.
You don't care when you're notsupposed to care, but it's
because you do care you get agreat heart man, and I love how

(41:34):
you're teaching these kids.
You know the mindset thatyou've grown and you've
developed through the years andMillsap mindset of being able to
be positive, surroundingyourself with good people and
taking ownership and knowing towork.
So, I want to get into, uh, justa cool story right now.
So tell me about your favoriteor your best race, like that day

(41:58):
that you were just floating onclouds.
I'm sure you've had a few cause.
You've won multiple races, butthere was that one time that
really stands out that if youcould relive that race or do
that moto again, what would itbe and when was it?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
It was a race that I didn't even win.
Um, and, yeah, moto again.
What would it be?
And when was it?
It was a race that I didn'teven win and it was in 2013.
And it was the last race of theseason.
No, sorry, sorry, the second tolast race of the season.
It was in Salt Lake City andthere was three of us going for
the championship that year.

(42:32):
Realistically, there was myself, ryan DelPoto and Ryan Dunchy.
We were the for thechampionship that year.
Realistically, there was myself, ryan Bill put on Ryan Dungey.
Um, we were the three main guysthat year and I got a bad start
.
I had a bad start to that motoand this.
This is when it was 20 laps andwe're an altitude, let alone
like we're.
We're pretty high in altitude.
Um Bill photo I think it's thewhole shot who won the

(42:58):
championship that night?
But he got the whole shot anddunji was, I think ryan.
Dunji was third, who's alsomulti-time champion, and I was
six or seven.
Um, I passed all the way up andcaught up to Del Potto, who was
winning, and Dungy followed me.
So then it was Ryan Del Potto,myself and Dungy.

(43:20):
This is on lap two.
We passed everybody, so nowit's the three of us for the
next 18 laps.
We were within like 1.5 secondsfor 18 laps, all three of us,
and if I would catch a littlebit, he would inch away'd, inch
away, like he had to pick it up.
I pick it up and don't you pickit up.
It got to the point to where,after the like the last few laps

(43:40):
, like I'm I'm starting to getdelusional because my heart rate
is so high, like I'm having totalk myself through, like okay,
this section's coming up, like Igotta do this in this section
because I, it's, my brain isstarting to get you, you know,
just populated realistically.
And and at the end of the race,you know it's, it was cool
Cause, you know I literally waswith you know, both those guys,

(44:03):
I think, have, uh, four, fourchampionships in that class and
supercross each.
So they have, you know, theyhave way more than I do, um, but
the fact that I was runningwith them than I do, um, but the
fact that I was running withthem, they couldn't break me.
I ended up passing one of themand it was.
I lasted the whole time, whichI've never been one to be in in
shape.
So for me to last the wholetime in between the two best

(44:26):
dudes that really, you know, twoof the best dudes ever do it.
Um, that to me, was one of thecoolest races because it's it's
still, you know, I stillremember it as in, like dude,
like we were on it, like welapped so far up in the field
there was no one near us.
Um, it was us three and and itwas just such a good race.

(44:47):
Like I said, you know theleader, myself and and dungey, I
think we were all within oneand a half seconds for 18 laps.
That's incredible.
That, to me, was probably oneof one of one of the best races
that I I physically did.
Um, most memorable race, Iwould say that one, if not the
one I won that year, the, thefirst one I won that year, and

(45:09):
anaheim won just because it wasa cool battle with an old friend
Ended up winning it.
But I would say Salt Lake isprobably one of the most
memorable ones that I have.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I love that and that for anyone out there you notice
he didn't win that one and thatwas his most memorable why?
Because of the people he wasaround and I know all three of
you were pushing each otherthose 18 laps.
I can't imagine like you guysmust have had like the fastest
times.
Oh, it was pretty much ever.
It was each one of you ispushing each other and like, all

(45:43):
right, I gotta go, and thatcompetitive edge like that must
have been a heck of a race.
I think the greatest thing if Ican find that 2013, salt lake
city.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
It was a fabulous race, but I think what was cool
is is ryan dudgy, who, who Ibeat that race, I beat that year
, too, overall.
Um, he was like I, I only knowit um, and I, because he's still
a friend like I see him all thetime and I bring it up to him
all the time like dude.
I remember when you, you know,when you had to go find a new

(46:12):
trainer because he said DaveyMillsaps is better than you,
that there's an issue, so, so,like you know, like dude, that's
what I was known for, you know,like, but they, he couldn't
crack me, I wasn't, and we werein altitude, let alone anything.
So I should have been popped,you know, early off in the race.
But dude, it was.
I didn't win, no, but we gave abill of putto, a big run for

(46:36):
his money, um, and it was, itwas just, it was so cool to like
.
I said I was one of the best asan amateur, one of the best in
my era, just maybe not winningso much, but I was still, you
know, one of the top dudes mywhole career.
But that, to me, was astatement that I was a top dude,

(46:57):
you know, I mean no matter if Iwon or lost, like if I got
second, but I was still a topdude and that to me is it meant
a lot no, I, I get thatsentiment exactly because in
special forces you know, whenyou look to your left, you look
to your right and you see themen you're with, you're like,
damn, yeah, I'm here with theseguys.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Like that I could, I can sense that and relate so
much.
Like riding and being.
Like you're looking and you'relike, holy shit, I'm rolling
with these guys, like this is,this is a special moment and
special, special thing.
That's fantastic.
Thank you for sharing that, Ithink that's a very powerful
story for people to understand.
You know, because we get sofocused on winning sometimes,

(47:36):
you know, and that's wherepeople say like, oh, don't worry
about the destination, Enjoythe journey.
No, that was a good journey man.
Yeah, that, right there.
That's the testimonial to that.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
And it was so fun.
While you're, while I was doingit too, like I was in so much
pain.
Let me tell you I was in somuch pain, I was struggling so
bad I'm like dude.
Another lap, another lap,another lap, but just a like.
I still get goosebumps thinkingabout it.
You know it was such a fun race, it was such a badass.
You know, when I bring it up toto dungey, still he's like dude

(48:08):
.
That was such a sick race.
You know, like, like it was,because there's not really been
a race like that too much likein our era.
You know to where all threeguys were together the whole
entire time.
It's usually one breaks away oror you know two breakaway, but
all three of the top guys noteven breaking within two seconds
, was it was dude, it was justso much fun.

(48:29):
And when you say enjoy thejourney, you know like, even if
I didn't get to the top thatyear, the journey that I had,
that was unbelievable, that'sfantastic.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
And hey, everybody listening right now.
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It's taken a while, but he'sthere and he's done it, and you
know that's the thing, becausesome people never do it and

(49:06):
you're doing amazing.
Brother.
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enjoy the Asset Mindset.
So getting back here, the onething I like to kind of do
mindset.
So getting back here, the onething I like to kind of do and
we've touched on this a lotbecause you're you're excellent
at explaining things is whatwould you do now to go back and
tell yourself and educateyourself when you were younger?

(49:48):
You know, like all thisexperience, because you've said,
oh, I wish I had this mindset.
You know, then, that I have now, so what would be the like, the
top three things that you'dlike?
Hey, listen up, davey, this iswhat you need, or what you
should be doing a good one.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Um, I'm gonna put a plug in.
I wish.
What are we?
20, 2025.
So 19, 20, 21, 21 years ago?
I wish you would have wroteyour book.
No, you know it's.
I w I would say that the drive.

(50:28):
You know, like I had drive andthen let it fail.
I needed someone that would belike dude, stop, you know, stop
whining, stop complaining, getgoing.
Um, then, like that kind of wasgood, I was okay there, but I
think the biggest change in mycareer, daniel, I think,
honestly, I think the biggestchange was who I surrounded
myself with and it wasn't forthe best.

(50:49):
Um, I surrounded myself.
My mom and I had, like I I sayseparation, not like obviously
we're not married, but but we,we went different.
You know, she was my trainer,like I rode, you know, with her
every single day, like she wasthe one that was doing
everything for me and we had afalling out and I went my own
way.
I'm 19 years old and Isurrounded myself with the wrong

(51:12):
people.
Who was there for?
Because I was making money andI was paying them.
You know, and and I even tellsome of my, some of my good
friends to this day, and andeven my old bosses that I see at
the races still might do.
Why didn't you grab me by theneck and say, stop, you know?

(51:33):
And they're like like there'snothing we would have done that
would have changed how you were.
I'm like bullcrap, you didn'tyou grab me by the neck and say,
stop, you know?
And they're like like there'snothing we would have done that
would have changed how you wereout.
Like bullcrap, you didn't try,you know, like you didn't try.
Um, because when I look back nowlike there's a lot of people
that I surrounded myself withthat, if I didn't want to ride
that day, if I went to check out, I don't feel good.
They were, yes, men.
And if I didn't want to go fora bike ride, if I didn't want to

(51:55):
go to the gym, if I didn't wantto do something, okay, no
worries, you can do it tomorrow.
There was always tomorrow andin reality, there's not.
There's always tomorrow endedeight years ago with my career,
or eight, nine years ago,whatever it is.
And so those are two things,which is, surround yourself with

(52:16):
the right people, because Ithink, hands down, that one is
what led my career down a paththat took me a long time to
crawl out of.
And then when I hired Ezra Luskand got myself around that I'll
put it this way he was so goodto be around he's still one of
my best friends, by the way.
He met the guy that I wastelling about that surrounded

(52:37):
myself with.
When he met him for the firsttime, he said you ever bring him
around again, I quit with andwith.
Within within five minutes ofknowing this dude, you ever
bring him around again, I quitand and I'm like, done Like I
agree.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I'll quit.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
You know, and I would say the last one honestly, for
me would just be finding thatpassion and drive and purpose
again.
You know, I loved dirt bikes, Iloved riding.
I did it for 27 years of mylife.
When I retired I was 29 yearsold At that time.
I had done it for 20.
I retired at 30.
Sorry, I did it for 27 years.
I was 30 years old when Iretired.
So it's one of those thingsthat I did it for so long.

(53:26):
You kind of get like a robot,you kind of just do it, you just
get into this flow.
And the last year that when Ihit my head and I ended my
career, I had that mindsetswitch of I'm doing everything I
can.
I don't care what it is, Idon't care if it's painful, I
don't care if it sucks, I don'tcare if it's something that no

(53:46):
one likes, I'm doing whateverI'm told I need to do and
whatever I know I need to do,I'm doing it, putting everything
I have into it.
The last year and when I didthat switch, dude, my world got
so good, my life got so good.
I was enjoying life.
I was on top of the world, manCycling.

(54:08):
Whenever you wanted to go.
I would go.
It didn't matter how far wewere going, it didn't matter how
hard it was If I had to swim,if I had to go to to the gym, if
I had to do all sorts of lapson the dirt bike, like I was
loving every single minute of it, and I'd go home and I'd just
be like, yeah, like loving it,like that switch for me is like
man, like I wish I would havedone that so long ago.
I'm just dude.
You got, realistically, onaverage, a 12 to 14, 12 to 15

(54:31):
year career in this sport.
Like if that's a long time, butoh, yeah, like that's what you
have.
Look up and grind and puteverything you have into it
because, dude, when it's gone,it's gone, like there's no going
back.
You know, I look at picturesnowadays and I'm like dude, like
I wish I can go back.
You know, like, and it bothersme and that's a great, that's a

(54:52):
regret that I have and I'llalways have it, you know is is
knowing what it was like, andthat's a regret that I have and
I'll always have it, you know isknowing what it was like to do
that stuff.
But at least I did it.
I can look back now and be likedude, I put so much into it.
At this point I knew what thatfelt like.
But it also sucks, because nowI know what it's like, but I
wish I would have done it solong ago.
So that's a dumb list on Um,but I feel like those things for

(55:14):
me, just like you know, if youwant to call it asset mindset,
you want to call it the mindsetand you can call it whatever
mindset you want, but at thattime, you know, for me it was
2017, um, that I literallydumped everything I had into it,
but I did it with passion, Idid it with drive, I did it with
uh, with purpose, and I did itwith positivity, and I think

(55:37):
that combination man is, is itwas a recipe for greatness.
I just never got a chance toshow it.
Um, but who I surrounded myselfwith at that time was really
good.
My, my mental strength, mymental side was really good and
you know, I I had a wife thatwas behind me and and I had two
kids that that you know werebehind me and um, yeah, man,

(56:01):
it's.
I didn't.
I didn't complain very much atthat time and I think that's why
good good, you should go backto like.
That's what I wish I could wellfor myself when I was, you know,
16, 17, 18 years old, oractually more so, 19, because
that's when I started going offthe deep end.
Yeah, you got a little too muchfreedom and a little cocky.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Young, you know testosterone's going.
You're.
You're the man, you're thebadass, you know it all.
You got the answers.
You're making money like don'ttell me, I know what I'm doing.
Look at me, yeah.
Yeah, I never thought it wasgonna end you know and let me
tell you it did and it was.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I didn't think it was going to end, you know, and let
me tell you, it did and it was.
I didn't think it was going tobe as tough as it was.
Like I, I don't have thepassion or the drive to go ride
a dirt bike right now.
I just don't, cause I know, youknow, sometimes I can ride,
sometimes I can't with how myhead is, like it feels weird, so
I get that.
Um, dude, it's one of thosethings that it was my life.

(56:57):
I'll always miss riding a dirtbike.
I'll always miss racing.
I'll always miss thecompetition.
I'll always miss lining up onthe gate and having that purpose
of dude I got to go.
But that's where I think, like Isaid, I'm valuable because of
all the bullshit I've beenthrough myself, all the stuff I
put myself through, all thestuff I didn't have to go

(57:18):
through that I did anyway.
You know, at such a young age,you know people stealing
everything from me and losingeverything and getting
everything back and just a whole.
You know you go through the.
You weather the stormrealistically, you know, and
like your analogy, you know yougo through the.
You weather the stormrealistically, you know, and,
and like your analogy.
You know that that you broughtup, but for me it's.
You know, you look at all thewildfires and and the black, but

(57:40):
guess what comes after that?
Dude, it's so green, it's crazy, you know.
And and that's kind of how Ilooked at life for a long time
was I'm, I'm being burned rightnow, but, like I'm, I'm going to
be green again.
You know, I'm going to comeback out on top again, I'm going
to weather the storm again.
That's just, dude.
It's been a long, 37 years.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
I promise you that I believe it and you briefly
touched on and I think you havea lot of value here with
overcoming physical difficulties.
Can you share a little bit forlisteners that maybe you know
they're struggling.
They just had, I don't know,back surgery, hip surgery, or
you know they got in a caraccident and broke their neck or

(58:21):
whatever it may be.
What was able or what were youable to do to push yourself to
recover and what have youlearned, I guess, through
recovery, you know, witheverything and all the surgeries
you've had?

Speaker 2 (58:37):
it's funny you bring up a back surgery and car
accident stuff.
I had back surgery eight weeksago and I got in a car accident
yesterday, so it's kind of funnyyou bring those up um I wasn't
mysterious ways I wasn't driving, by the way, and I was sitting
in the passenger seat when wegot hit.
But for me, you know whether itbe.

(58:59):
You know, like I said, I've had36 surgeries something like
that, dude, it's never funhaving surgery, it's never fun
being hurt, it's never funhaving to go.
I didn't do a whole lot ofrehab because I did it on my own
, because I knew.
I knew it had to get done.

(59:21):
I knew what needed to get doneand I have to walk again, or I
have to bend my elbow again, orI have to bend my knee again, or
, you know, right now it's myback, because I literally had
back surgery eight weeks ago.
So I'm still trying to get mymobility back.
But just knowing that, if youget through that pain of
recovery, which is gettingthrough the scar tissue and
breaking all that stuff up againand which, dude, I'm sorry scar

(59:42):
tissue that sucks and gettingthrough it and pushing through
that little bit of pain, theother side of it is so nice.
You know you get to be yourselfagain and the faster you do it
to a reasonable extent, thefaster you get back.
You know, like when I had, whenI did my, you know, my first
ACL, I was 12 years old.

(01:00:02):
I had to have knee surgery at12.
I was back on dirt bike in twomonths, you know, and I had full
accelerated rehab.
I was bent in my knee within afew weeks, like fully bent in my
knee within a few weeks, beenin my knee within a few weeks,
like fully been in my kneewithin a few weeks.
I was in tears.
I was in full tears every day,but that was I.
Look back, dude.
That was 23 years ago.
You know what I mean.
Like I don't remember that pain.
I can think of the pain but Idon't feel it.

(01:00:25):
You know, tomorrow I'm notgoing to notice the pain that I
felt today.
Realistically.
That's how I think.
That's how I'm always lookingat it.
It's like I got to get throughit and then, as you go down the
road, dude, you don't even payattention.
You'll be living your lifenormal.
Oh crap, it doesn't even hurtanymore.
You don't even realize itdoesn't hurt and it's because
you take your mind off of it.
You switch your mindset from soconsumed with the pain or so

(01:00:47):
consumed with whatever and itdisappears, like you get it out
of your head.
You know, I feel like pain is isa lot to do with with where
you're at mentally andeveryone's like, oh, I have so
much, I have a high, you know,pain threshold.
Okay, well, it's cool, but Iguarantee, like it still hurts,

(01:01:08):
you know.
Like, yeah, dude, I can ridewith two broken wrists all year
long.
It still hurts, but that was in2017.
That was so many years ago.
Like I can't, my wrist hurts.
I had double wrist surgeryright after that and they still
hurt.
But it's not like I don't lookback now and go man, like, whew,
that was so painful.
Like no, I look back and go man, like I made it through that
year Like that sick.

(01:01:35):
I always try to switch it towhere I don't think about it
anymore.
I try to just exclude it frommy head and push through the
pain, because, no matter whatyou do, no matter how old you
are, if you've had as manysurgeries as I've had, or you've
jumped out of planes as much asyou have and hit the ground as
hard as you have, you're goingto have pain.
Are you going to let it stopyou every single day, though?
No, dude, you got to moveforward, you got to move on.
You got to keep going past it,cause, no matter what, if you're
gonna let the pain slow youdown, what else are you gonna

(01:01:57):
want to slow you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
down Everything.
No, I love it.
I love it, man.
I love your mindset.
This is awesome.
Great episode again, thank you,thank you, thank you.
Find Davey out there, followhim.
He's doing wonderful things.
He's a great coach, mentor.
Check out Mills at Mindset andplease share this episode with

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