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September 3, 2023 47 mins

With us exploring new fragments of life, we come across various challenges, ''Mental Health'' is one of them. It has existed for a while yet is still surrounded by a stigma. Get to know from the expert about all the complexities of the human mind and their solutions. 00:00 In the Episode 01:29 Intro 02:19 About Juuhi Raai 04:16 What made Juuhi get into this field 06:06 Why can’t people continue what they’ve started 07:53 Power of association 09:04 Tips for people who think they are not good enough 12:00 Do people really know about the depth of mental health 14:41 Importance of exercise 19:59 Doing what you love to do 23:02 Vipassana 26:24 Journey as a Master EFT Therapist 31:34 Storytelling as a tool in therapy 34:09 The art of storytelling 36:00 Mirror solution 37:57 Juuhi’s advice for students Check these out: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjuuhiraai/ Ted Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpGbQjmTeCA (The Astrix Show - Season 2, Episode 18) Episode hosted by: Akshat Jain Idea and creative by: Akshat Jain and Ojas Jain Edited by: Siddhant Tripathi Graphics by: Arindam Panigrahi Show Notes by: Shruti Sinha and Isha Choudhury Location Courtesy: Freqncy Studio, BKC Produced by: Siddhant Tripathi, Akshat Jain, Ojas Jain

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(00:00):
Agarab dozar Ki jeans karit saktio agarab pizza ka saktio
patsurapeka to app apni mental health kiliye bhale paj the
sazar Maine ke nikal nano true.

(00:30):
You know so communication ke barometer by agrab dekho or face
storytelling dekho to jassi I'm chote to hum ghar Jakes pakata
ha. It's not possible for everybody

(00:57):
to take out ten days where you will have to inform the world
that, listen, I'm not going to be in communication at all true.
True, you know, in fact a lot ofprofessionals are not able to do
it because of that. People, when you become older,
when you become an adult, especially after you come to
college, yeah, it becomes your moral imperative, your
responsibility to re parent yourself.

(01:30):
So hello everyone, and welcome to yet another repeating episode
of the Lastic Show. I'm your new host, Aksha Jain,
and we are here to bring you groundbreaking insights and new
captivating stories across the globe, all designed to
supercharge your intellect and broaden your horizon.
So today we have a very special guest with us, Doctor Chuhi Rai.

(01:52):
She's a Ted X speaker. Rex Karam V Awardee, Master, EFD
Therapist, Life Story, Coach. And if that's not all, she's
also an author and a WI CCI CSR Council Member.
So welcome Juhi Rai to our MG Mumbai edition of our podcast.
Thank you. How?
How? I am very curious about your

(02:13):
journey and just intro about yourself for the audience okay.
So I guess you covered up most of the formal part of the
introduction. So like you said, I'm Dr. Juhi
Rai and I come from a middle class home in Bombay.

(02:33):
And I think my journey towards mental health has been right
from the days like, you're an engineer.
So I was an engineer and I didn't like it at all.
So I thought, yeah, what do I do?
And then I did my masters in English Literature.
And then then I did my PhD in Emotional and Social
Intelligence. OK?
That's great. In 2015 I started a company

(02:57):
called the Life Workshop and in the next 5 years I traveled to
conduct mental health workshops for students, engineering
students, management students, anti terrorist courts, police,
merchant, Navy cadets, senior citizens, corporate you know,
men and women. So because I feel there's a huge

(03:21):
need for mental health techniques and workshops where
just the conversation around it,because I think everybody is
really stressed and depressed and well dressed and true.
True. Yeah, so that's what I do work
wise. Even the books that I write are
usually around mental health. That's what I do.
And yeah, when I'm not doing anything too serious because

(03:43):
whether it's therapy or anything, that's the intense
side of my work. But the workshops are hyper fun,
full of humor. I think if you can make somebody
laugh about a very serious matter, then you on it
scientifically. Also you achieve breakthroughs,
you know, mental health breakthroughs with that.
So yeah. That's a great insight.
That would be helpful. Yeah.

(04:04):
Yeah. So so.
One, I would just like to know like how did you really felt
that you are going to pursue a mental health advocacy and
you're going to go in this field.
So what just clicked you to get into this?
I think entrepreneurs solve problems that they have.
Yeah. You know, that's how most

(04:24):
startups are formed. Yeah, like that's how Red Bus
was formed. Because funny couldn't get a
ticket back home. I think my mental health startup
is a product of just that. I felt majorly unheard, very
confused and directionless when I was in my engineering college.
I don't think the focus here should be engineering.
I think it's like, you know now.College students, college

(04:47):
students are just by the time upHorst Samhalti or like
intellectually Ajati Apkulaktam Mein Khan who is dunya mera, kya
kaam. Here all the philosophical
conversations again Ekkad heartbreak, Ojatha breakup,
ojatha that also gravitates you towards focusing on yaar dil
diwanka connection. It's really about 10th make it I
12th make it I what exam I'm cracking.

(05:10):
But as life catches on and the relationship angles of Ajata Hai
Uskebato, I think it's a it's very much required.
But mostly I feel 90% of the people that I come across if I
ask them a question are you happy with your life.
Yeah I are you happy? They say no.
I say OK are you doing Jitna appu lakhta bhagwan appu talent.

(05:33):
The appu school use they're likeno mostly people are either not
doing what they love or they're not able to do what they love.
Yeah you know otune sakte Nina ariya decide kartan kartan you
know something like that. So we need to have support
systems. Yes, yes, you're true.
So like you are saying that likemany people are not able to

(05:56):
continue key vote just decide Kartin Chalu completing their
path and they think they haven'tdone good enough.
So like from a mental health perspective like you have done a
lot of things into this key Why do you think that happens with
people? Yeah, our people just didn't
illuse them key they have not done enough, but they don't see
the good part of it mostly. So why do you think?

(06:16):
Yes. General perception generally a
team I think the inchar Karan OK.
So number one I will say he justsay humbo serial the Vikram
betal yes to hum Sabka it negative inner critic so let's
say he's Jessie Betal better at the hamara be in crito ba is

(06:46):
what Vetal is having. Our inner critic is having with
us. Now let's say I start anything
my Paraikanne betna chatiyo ya pehle vetal mujarok dega Ek
Netflix sora dekhle chaturi deraor pachmed or soja yeah.
Inside of relationships let's say where I have to say sorry, I
have to apologize communicate. I won't because with I'll say
chorna is he go far at me. But I dunya about Farra second,

(07:14):
most people know Hamari, Mummy, Papa, Sabjo kete Tejo purvaj
Hamari Ki Sangat, right? You know the company you have is
the people you are become, so you are the average of the five
people you hang. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
And if you want to change something about your life, and
especially when you said, yeah, I want to finish something, like
I start things, but I don't finish them, it's because you

(07:34):
don't have that kind of company.If you, if you want to become a
great swimmer, push yourself into a group of swimmers.
If you want to start a diet, push yourself into, You need to
have the power of association. We are human beings.
We don't. We thrive when we have a group
or a community that does something.
Yeah. So these two things, if you can

(07:54):
tackle, then, you know, it becomes easier to complete the
task. Yeah.
But I say that I, in fact, I didthis when I started the gym.
First time in my life, I createda WhatsApp group.
And every day we would just write hashtag one, done, #two
done, you know, after every workout.
So they're going to Charlo push the Teriya.

(08:16):
Yeah, you know, so that you needto create that kind of a system
where people irritate you and ask you, hey, listen, why you're
not finishing that. Feedback mechanism, basically.
Sure, absolutely. Yeah.
So right, rightly said I I I also feel that like this is very
important key. You have some support and
feedback mechanism that like helps.
It has like. Not really done this, but like

(08:39):
I've seen this happening in my life and that has helped me a
lot. So yeah, that is right.
So like if you want to give any one tip, like just a short tip
for this key, like how people can get out of this key, if they
are thinking that they are not well enough and they're not
doing good, So what One thing they can just think of every day

(08:59):
morning so that they can change this routine of this.
I think thinking is very useless.
Hum tovalgi. I think aaj Ki savannama people
are asking over thinking Kamke sekarna Thinking what?
I genuinely I think there are somany practices that I have come
across in my life, lots of them.I have imbibed lot of them I've

(09:21):
taught. Also one of the easiest things
you can do is as soon as you getup it's called stream of
consciousness writing. As soon as you get up up a page
load to a copy pen or up. Joe Dibang, Me Ara likhna Shiru
kardo. OK.
Park effect, though. Yeah.
It's how you brush your teeth. You know, how you relieve your
stomach in the morning? Yeah.

(09:41):
It's a constant. We need constant detox.
Whether it's the stomach, whether it's the mind.
And there's so many thoughts. There's so much mental noise and
clutter. Yeah.
Madhav, Mujeela, a lot of peoplelike, I cannot afford therapy.
I cannot afford this and that. I'm like, can you can you buy a
book and a pen? Like a patch to pick a pen or a
chali's rupaki kitabab karidoor kagas nehe to manglo kisi se and

(10:03):
aapliko or Or jolekkali khosma mera Moor Kara bhotay Jo
negativelyko kishy. That that's a pretty good

(10:26):
solution. I will do it.
Now you must try that is that isbasically detoxification Chai,
sort of of on paper. No.
And there's a lot of medical research that proves that your
cortisol level will go down OK. Your, you know, dopamine and
seratin in the body will increase.
OK, Right. Yeah.
Your breathing will change. It is a very scientific process.

(10:47):
It's like thermodynamics, you know?
OK, energy can either be createdon this.
Yeah, you put it, you put all that emotion on paper and then
you let go of it and then you have space to do what you want
to do. Right, right.
So that would be very helpful for our viewers we are having
here. So that is a very pretty good

(11:07):
solution. So I would just like to mold
this stock into a different perspective now like.
I've seen like a lot of Gen. Z's and millennials are very
very vocal about mental health and like climate change.
Those two are sort of a buzzwords now.
So I but seen I'm that like theyare very superficial about this
like they don't know much about it.
They will just say climate change, QS kuch kuch Ora mental

(11:29):
health, QSA both kuch Ora sharubi Botha.
So yeah, that that those things are happening.
But like, very few people are really deep into this like you
are here so. Why do, like, do you think this
is really happening, like, from my perspectives, right about it?
Or like, what are your views about this?

(11:51):
Yeah, it is. I mean.
You think that it is. So it's like, why do you think
like? Why people are so, like catchy
about these topics but don't really mean those?
Like this is so it's like Maslow's need of you know
hierarchy need right? Can you just, like, tell what is

(12:11):
that? Yeah, So what?
Simple. See Bhatti, I remember jab
bipasana karne kaithi which is 10 days of keeping quiet.
OK, OK, OK Abusha kuchni kar sakti.
I'm not manme Chant kar saktiyo.Now visualize kar saktiyo.
You can't even have eye contact with anybody.
So it's 10 days of just Mon akka, Mon rakna or of cop.
It's very hard because you come to realize that you're very hard

(12:33):
to live with, you know? Yeah.
Hey, so I remember in that therewas this lady, she said
something very nice. And because I had missed me
like, you know, meal ka break. Miss Ogayata, right.
To Miss Ogay Theosma. OK.
To Manikharani Kayato, who's name Dhyan Ki Beach.
Miss Bujyotaki. She took me and she said she's
like, talking to me, which you're not supposed to do in

(12:54):
Vipasna, you know? Right, right.
So she's like Abko and I'm just keeping quiet and I'm looking
down because when I contact the Hogaya to check, I want you know
then she says Samajh neha Tai khalipa sadra Neyothi.
And I said say about that what'sare the issues this year?
I think you came on a paid OK, OK, Agar AAP Ki taklife ye hoti

(13:23):
Ki R big, right? I'm not denying or invalidating
mental health issues, but I haveworked through across
demographics and across economicstrata.
You know. So I guess a tanky depression
Amir OK Ek bhimari here or yeah escalib hai kyuki scientifically

(13:43):
isa mujhe lagta. Because my approach to mental
health is either humor or exercise.
We have stopped exercising. We don't move.
Right. Right to pehle kya otatha Jo
hamari pale ke generations. They woo other bus Leke jaren to
bus stop the chaliki jaini sabzileke Ki aange Kapur do the we've

(14:15):
It's become so convenient for us.
Everything is on the app. Yeah, yeah, people have stopped
working. So basically, they do just one
work. It's not work.
It's it's be a physical movement.
I'm not talking about work. I'm talking about physical
movement. I'm talking about that walk,
that picking up. You know, my mother always says,
Kiran ne up, Sabzi matmana. I have this habit.

(14:35):
She'll say you go down and buy because you're gonna see the
colors, you're gonna pick it up,you're gonna have some
conversation with somebody. We have isolated ourselves or O
pura time screen gesam nerena. So number one, I think if
whoever's listening to this, if you're not going to exercise, it
doesn't matter how old you are. If you're not exercising every
day, you're bound to be depressed and anxious #1 #2 If

(14:57):
you are anxious or depressed or you're going through some lot of
stress in your life, just start exercising.
The brain is, you know, the limbic brain has hippocampus and
one of the easiest ways to calm.And scientifically, like, you
know, when you're very stressed,your brain shrinks.

(15:18):
So if you if you gone through trauma, your brain shrinks.
If you want to come back, you know you want to, you know,
revive your brain, all you have to do, you know the simplest
thing you can do is go for a 45 minute walk every day.
That's eight. OK No gym membership, no Zimba,
no yoga, nothing. Just go for a walk, OK?
That that's good? Yeah.
And you can just revive your hippocampus.

(15:40):
That's good. Yeah.
I love your explanation. Like.
Those are just like scientific backing also.
And like, yeah, those are very simple state solutions.
Like you gave a paper solution. Just write one, one page and
like 45 minutes. I'll just love those ideas.
Like, those are the ideas like anyone can do, like anyone
seeing this podcast. Yeah, can do those things.

(16:00):
So that's really helpful for those people who cannot, like,
afford these things. And mostly, people just say that
mental health like mental health, illness is only possible
for the. I'm like you said, Amiro kale,
like, not like. The people who are in middle
class normally just say that we have we are always miserable.

(16:20):
The middle class people always said we are always miserable and
something like those things. So no, no.
See, there is a very high lot ofthings have changed.
There's a nutritional angle to it.
I'm Jokhana Kate and that is also not very good for mental
health. True.
Yeah. Johamara physical.
IK Jo movement Kam hogiya haibo fair social media is a huge app.

(16:46):
Could you press on Instagram? Kolke bad job because Pele kya
otata. I know there are these funny
handles called Sharma jika beta and all of that right.
Yeah. And earlier, kya otata Ki jab
jab social media nahitha to aapko Compare kisigar aapke
cousins se neighbor ke bachche se or kon kartata sif aapke
parents ya koi cousins roll de immediate people.

(17:08):
Now you're comparing yourself tothe whole world, right?
You're comparing yourself to thebest racer.
To the person with the best body.
Yeah, to the person who's vacationing on a yacht.
To a person who's modeling, to aperson who's doing scientific
research. Itna kuch TE ke humkul tere yaar
ye to ye kar rah Mein hika rahi toh woka rah true.
So we need to detox the social media bit also.

(17:30):
Yeah, that's a perspective. Like, yeah, that's really true.
Like Instagram has opened. Ohh.
Bar set a bar for everything. Like every person has done
something and everyone just compares from the best of the
people. No one just compares from their
family members or something. Nowadays they are just they are

(17:50):
just going to like we will just compare to like correct Oka,
Tony Chebai, am I somebody case you say we compared me Karengi.
Yeah, yeah. And also everyone wants to do
everything nowadays. Yeah.
It's not just correct. I want to do one thing at a
time. I want to get get thinner.
I want to also do best at my work.
Yes, I also want to do yoga. Yeah, I also want to do.

(18:10):
I want to take sessions for the underprivilege and see the best
girls or boys or whoever you're dating has to be the best.
Yeah, absolutely. You're absolutely right.
So people are just like, I guess, very very greedy nowadays
for everything they just. Want that they should have
everything in themselves and they should be best of the
personalities, which is not really possible.
Like what? I really feel like people are

(18:33):
who are vocal about it might be doing some part of it, but not
very good extent to everything they can do, right?
You're right. Partly, I think.
OK, why do you think so? I think so.
Because context. You know Humketana Sandhar,
right? Context decides everything.
For example, suppose mehagar kutko Instagram P/E dekke Jalan

(18:59):
ke mare depression ke mare phir me patla ho nikkili.
I'm developing body like image issues and I'm not.
I'm throwing up food. I'm going into a eating
disorder. Or I'll tell you personally,
Mehapni bhat karun. I wouldn't generalize.
I love to be in shape. And I may ask the Kisinsansani
miliyi Muli watch is the skill overweight on our chalaktay many

(19:19):
personal choice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Rekbhat borio sabko junk food a
chalaktay sabko French fries person there.
It is not easy. But the the thing what we have
forgotten, I feel about being human is and you know, sadhguru
says this is not about being superhuman.
It's about realizing that being human is super and it's about

(19:41):
sync here. I just feel really good when I
exercise. I just feel really good.
You know Agar AB Kailu uttara Yaar me to Jaan Nikal Diya,
which is Jim Jana Pasaniya. Then it's not here for calling.
Leave it. Yeah.
Then maybe sports is your calling.
Go play. True.
True bajpane dohame kis in a knee.

(20:15):
Coming from a space that I'm notgood enough, you know, vis A
vis, I'm nice. Let's see what else is possible,
right. Right.
You know, yeah. Or or you know, a lot of people
who have great boards. You know, India's Got Talent or
something. OK.
So this may go Haryana ke gentlemen.

(20:35):
I'm so thin. He picked up.
He broke a Guineas book record like 50 kgs.
He picked up Moussa. Sorry.
Saw KG or something like that. OK OK.
I'm. I'm sure he's very content with
himself. True.
And he's like mirji yoga pracharkarnay like the Max trend is

(20:56):
coming from like yoga whatever. So you have to figure out what
you like doing. Yeah.
I'll and I feel because I've worked with thousands of people
there people when you become older, when you become an adult
especially after you come to college.
Yeah it becomes your moral imperative, your responsibility
to re parent yourself. You know K Joe Bachpan may ask

(21:19):
is OK you logo there Joe traumatic family CRA unka
childhood Barabar Naitha yeah there was something unhealthy so
you need to correct that one andtwo you need to find what you
love to do. That's something that will last
for very long. I've seen very successful people
commit suicide. Yeah.
You know so it it really is about finding what you love to

(21:39):
do. Ek do ghante to in sanku din
memu kar nai cheye. Right.
Right. Right.
So series of Nikal Jatiya, mental health, emotional health,
you know? Right, right, right, right.
That's that's true, very correctly said about that.
So one thing I just curious about, like we talked, you
talked about this like you talked about Vipassana, HM.
So can you just like tell the viewers or like what really

(22:02):
Vipassana is and just like generally your experience, what
is this? My experience was very nice, it
was very challenging. But honestly, I don't think I'm
an expert to talk about Vippasana, so.
What is it? But what vipassana is, is it?
Does Dinka course with that? OK, Was my apkujake AP Ekdi
Shabdhani bol Satya Dustin. OK, AAP up.

(22:23):
Kisi se bhatne, karte up, up. Quick isolated room.
Diya jata, that's dil se Nikhil.OK, so it's challenging, it's
beautiful, but there are a lot of other like there are a lot of
practices. I think we passing is a very
tough one. OK, but I feel like a lot of
times you know my friends also do this.
They say how make retreatment. Challa jatay haha Mara weight

(22:46):
loss. Sojayegaegi jaha rehte ho.
Aliyappka chhota sa. Kamraho Bohatbara kamraho.
It doesn't matter where you are,if where you are you can blossom
then it's cool. App.
App. Apni kamrema kya kar sattu.

(23:17):
Yeah, jalani Seca. You can just TuneIn and put on a
guided meditation. You can put on some yoga and do
some breathing exercise. It's not possible for everybody
to take out ten days where you'll have to inform the world
that, listen, I'm not gonna be in communication at all.
True, true. That's right.
In fact, a lot of professionals are not able to do it because of

(23:38):
that True, true. It's very hard to take out 10
so. Where do you exactly do this?
Like so many centers you can Google it but there's popular
ones are in Borivali, there's Pagoda which you have a waiting
list for like 3 to six months orsomething I hear because it's
one of the finest places to do it.
Even energy wise we got Puri, Nagpur.
It's happening all over the country.

(23:58):
I know these because they're in Maharashtra.
OK that that's nice. Not really know about this, but
quite I will check about this. Oh, you must, yeah.
And you must try it out also andlet us know afterwards.
I would definitely like to try it, like, let's see how it's
possible. Maybe you could share your
experience, yeah? Yeah, absolutely.
Love to do it. Yeah.
Yeah. So what I like, searched about

(24:22):
you was like, I know that you are a master EFD therapist.
So like you just want to tell the listeners what it is about
and like what really you do in that if you want to.
It is the most amazing discoveryof my life.
OK to get there. A lot of people say, hey, how
did you find it? I said my Kutko Thikaneri Kliti
had no intention of becoming a therapist or anything.

(24:45):
Honestly, if someone would have told me, like, you know, a few
years back, see, because I'm perpetually on the stage, I'm
anchoring big events or I'm doing motivational speaking and
all of that, but anything as isolated as writing or therapy,
I would have laughed. But you know how I came across
EFT is because I had some pains in my body and they were just

(25:07):
not getting diagnosed by you know allopathy or any other
schools of thought. And so I'll tell you what EFT is
and I'm very happy to talk aboutit because I feel and and my my
Instagram handle is at doctor Doohi Rai with.
I hope it comes on the screen. Whoever's editing it, please put
it because I I want to give out a lot of free workshops for EFT.

(25:29):
OK, OK, now what is EFT? So you know these American, you
know, veterans who would come back from the war?
Yeah. They used to be so badly
affected by it. Kyunko Extreme PTSD.
Odata PTSD and a Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
Yane Jo apkesat Hatsay wo hochukai.
Yeah, yeah. But uske baad salo Takaki.

(25:52):
Body may vote. Trauma registered written.
And this trauma the Body Remembers.
There are books written about it.
There are great PhD Phd's and researchers who have written
about this, that the trauma is stored in your body and it's all
a chemical lucha, to be honest. OK And we all have a reptilian
brain. So, like, for example, first
there were reptiles. And if you try to pet a snake,

(26:16):
kita pyaar saape acha kita sindar saape.
Because a reptile cannot distinguish between good touch,
bad touch, right. Right.
But a mammal can because it has a mammalian brain.
Yeah. So a dog or a cat can okay,
it'll not attack you, but a reptile will attack you if you
try to touch it, okay. So we all have a reptilian brain
and then we have a prefrontal cortex, which is where the idea,

(26:38):
language, all of that is coming from.
So that's where the final evolution, right, human beings
have it. So let's say you are having
public Speaking of here you you feared in dancing in front of
people? Yeah of course.
Tes baat kalle to Dal Lakhtar. Yeah.
Confrontations in Dal Lakhtar. Dhar Jahabi Attai Tension Jahabi
Attai Flight fright, fight responses.

(27:00):
Johote and sanke osar aapke. Reptilian brains.
So EFT was invented discovered worked on researched for solving
PTSD of these soldiers who were returning to Kibo Samajwai bapa
Saini public families Kisad Gulman nee Parid OK.
But as we started applying EFT to depression sexual abuse any

(27:26):
abuse any kind of abuse diseasesmental or physical pains decade
long aches usab Jana laga Because the body stopped the
reptilian brain stopped signaling the body to go into
flight. Fright response.
OK what if you can switch that off.

(27:46):
Just say amp a switch and a light car.
A graph is a band. Karpao eft were possible.
Karpa Ek tusra If there are 16 sessions of talk therapy,
cognitive behavior therapy required then you just need 3.
So it's super fast. It can be self administered.
A lot of free EFT videos are there on YouTube also.
Of course there's nothing like it if you have a great

(28:09):
practitioner to do some sessionswith.
But it is phenomenal. And the best part is, I don't
know of a better therapy for intelligent people, OK?
Because intelligent in Sanka Sushma Kudur there, yeah.
So what does this like? What does EFD stands for?

(28:29):
Like EFD stands for emotional freedom techniques.
OK. And it's called emotional
acupuncture. OK, so, so we need Alna, Parega
acupunctures like that because there are Meridian points, OK?
And basically there are these Meridian points that you tap,
like, OK, you know, you tap themand then you say these words.
OK, Which are commands, really. It's a syntax.

(28:50):
OK Yeah. And it's very interesting
because it's like you can reprogram your mind completely.
So a lot of famous people use it.
Athletes use it. OK, that's fascinating.
Yeah. And it's very big in America.
But hum, they say the Sal Padasal feature chalte.
Yeah, Yeah. So we're catching us.

(29:11):
Yeah, right, right, right. So yeah, yeah.
So one of the questions I had inyour my mind like what are
though like as life coach, you are a life coach.
So what really happens in those mentoring sessions and like what
do you see? Like how do you see like I'm

(29:32):
quite sure that like a lot of storytelling would be involved
in those sessions I guess. So how do you think, like
storytelling is a tool? How?
How great of a tool it is for? These sessions and how does it
really impact people? It's the best tool because we
have grown up on stories. We love stories.

(29:53):
That's human beings are stories.We are perpetually telling
stories or listening to stories.All our philosophies are
stories. Okay.
When you get into spiritual workor inner work of any kind, they
will tell you, well, whatever you're telling yourself is a
story. It's not the truth, you know.
That's why we say it's more Maya.

(30:14):
I'm Brahmasmi, I'm gonna, I'm the creator, I'm gonna create
anything. So stories are the most powerful
tools. And I used to do theater.
So thankfully, I actually, I've learned from a very dear friend
called Dr. Zaheer Sheikh and Ashok Kumarji's daughter who's
no more the late Bharti Jaafri, ma'am.
So they taught me theater. And so there's a lot of

(30:35):
theatrics involved in motivational speaking.
It's really like a performance, to be honest, very many times
because the movie Tamasha dekh Yogi Jo pohat katar tek hai toss
me jabo Bate kar Rai toss Ki dilse nikal dekhi call kaun hitou

(31:07):
Agar hum cycle Kodi service Karasakte Hain gadi service Kara
sakte to hum kutki servicing kuni karate true.
Maybe chiyo. So storytelling is a very
powerful tool and I use it a lot, OK.
I don't use it in my personal sessions like therapy sessions
are all eft. OK, yeah.
There. I listen to the story, OK, And
then remove the story, OK. Surgically or whatever.

(31:29):
But yeah, I think my my entire life, wherever I have also been
down, I have gone back to stories, OK?
Yeah, that's good. Yeah, story so.
Nice. So do you feel like like
storytelling is an art that likeeveryone should know of, like
everyone should learn of this skill.

(31:49):
Like this skill is very important.
I feel like in every sphere of life.
It can heal you. It can also help your work and
it can let you do leadership. Oh yeah, absolutely important
for that. Yeah.
So. How do you really think like?
Like a lot of 11 liner tips you have given like what?

(32:09):
What is the Juhi way of doing storytelling?
Learning storytelling for peoplewho are not very confident about
it? OK, good question.
Learning. I think before you tell a story,
you have to learn to listen to astory.
True. I think listening perceives
telling always. Yeah, you kya naam sun Saktayana
musbatke rasko pakar lete musbatKi oske oske you know kraksko

(32:32):
pakar lete. Right.
And hum sub storytellers. I'll tell you what I feel and I
often mention this in the live workshop and and this is usually
with the, you know, 1819 year olds who have stopped talking to
their parents. OK, right.
To key parents or teachers, You know, it's like so boring.
You'll talk to your peers or whatever.
So I tell them, Ki abab de ko Ki.

(32:54):
Let's say we took storytelling inside the context of
communication. Yeah.
Ki koi bhi rishta agaramco strong karnay.
Right. So Hamir was my communication.
But are they naji true, You know, So communication ke
barometer pyagra dekho or face storytelling dekho to jasi hum

(33:15):
chote O tete to hum ghar Jakes paka Tera de de badoko pataya
aashya. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Udar girgiya udhariya ogya pataya kya huacham uje joke

(33:41):
pataya. Of course, Sona involve Kirkira.
Kinge bachev. But like dhire, Dhire, we just
lose that ability of telling people absolutely, absolutely.

(34:05):
We are not very open. We get closer and closer to
ourselves. And yes, I cannot tell this to
anybody else. Yeah, we just get privacy so and
we stop like SRB details Ajatinabut it's smart.
Ojatya or over sharing. Tonika re O betal Bapasha.
Lojata Itraman, bata. Don't trust you're telling too
much. Yes, exactly.

(34:25):
So to increase storytelling or communication, Dono Agar in
Batukum, Mela Jaito is let's learn to talk in detail and
finer details. And you know, storytelling is
very powerful and it's very enjoyable.
Yeah. And I feel it's a very good way
to track your own confidence levels also.

(34:48):
And there are many ways to do it.
I mean, there were these Toastmaster clubs and all
earlier. Yeah, speaking clubs, OK.
But Toastmasters, like, they're a global community of public
speaking, OK, So you can write to them and they will help you
form a club in your college. And they're the one of the
largest in the world. Toastmasters, Yes.

(35:12):
T oast to abdal sectors. Masters.
Sure, sure. Toastmasters.
So they're the largest communityin the world.
OK, for public speaking because public speaking is the biggest
fear after death. It's the second biggest fear in
the world. Okay.
So after death, yeah, yeah, death and that too.
Fear of spiders to be precise, like you know, Yeah.
But yeah, public speaking is very this thing.

(35:33):
And I think another way I feel is because I'm trying to do that
is to put yourself out there on Instagram or now that we are in
a world that is very social media based, so to say.
Then if you have that wish, thengo tell your stories.
There's another community you can attend, these spoken fests,
etc, called commune. Roshan Abbas has started it.

(35:55):
Yeah, yeah. I've called it.
Yeah, right. It's beautiful.
Yeah. OK.
And for those who want to work on confidence and public
speaking, storytelling, conversation of any kind,
talking of any kind, communication of any kind, learn
to stand in front of the mirror and look into your own eyes
every day for 5 minutes. It is such an intense process.
It is, again, free of cost. Yeah, but Jis de Rab ke karo ke

(36:17):
pehle tulo ke assu Jhanne Lagenge koi Shivar.
Kanne Lage Kuzor Jose Hasne Lagega.
But mostly are Dekhini Powge kits.
You know, our movies will be they could give a practice.
Kartena dikha tenu. So it's a very powerful thing to
do. Yeah.
Yeah. I just did it this morning.

(36:38):
I after very long, I got back toit.
So I was under this. I was listening to this thing
and she said just that video. It was a guided meditation and
she said, can you stand in frontof a mirror right now and do it.
So I went in front of the mirrorand I did it.
So yeah, it's it on. And all these practices I feel
everybody should know that exercise hone doya this in
nahane this out appasane Ki vajpani when hatata when in hana

(37:00):
showed the esay. Right.
Right. It's something you have to do
daily. Motivation is a daily thing.
Yes. Twice a day.
Yes. Yeah.
OK, so I guess we got a solutionout of this also.
Like mirror solution, the mirrorsolution.
Yeah, Yeah. OK.
So like we will go to sort of a last segment that like we are

(37:21):
more our students and like people.
So I just want I'm very like. Concerned about the students
nowadays like students are very,very prone to this mental
health. And they I just heard people
like I don't know how those people are getting like 910
student, they are saying I'm very, very depressed and all
those stuff. Yeah.
And I just feel that they have not had enough of those things,

(37:43):
but just they have heard of these birth words and even
though they are not very depressed, they are literally
just telling themselves that they are depressed and giving
negative vibes to themselves. And turning themselves more into
that side, like what are your, what can you tell them so that
they get out of this, like the students out there?

(38:06):
Firstly, I would really tell anybody who feels that they're
depressed, yeah, to get professional help.
OK, I don't believe that we should use these terms loosely
like you said. Yeah, you use the word buzzword
to kaibara sota kya amnes sunliya amkula tesh had
mujhebiye hoga true true to best.
Ye hoga Ki agarap lag de lag do lag Sal ke padhai P/E laga

(38:36):
saktyo agarab do azar Ki jeans karit sachio.
Attested, checked, assessed. OK self diagnosis kar ke aaj

(38:56):
mehgar kutko boldon Ki hai mujheyou feel Hooray would you
constantly ye lagray up of my feelings ke bar me batghar girl

(39:16):
mental retard words that we use very lightly you know and now
with the advent of more conversation of identity
sexuality we should be mindful and kind towards you know yeh B
soch nahi re bakwas kare. Because believe me number of

(39:39):
times when post suicide of a of a successful person.
You know aapon Ki friendship Uchakita bowling.
Here you to Bohata Chakar Rata life.
You to Bohat Khushre Titi to have a name Aloo.
I saw Muji Laktar Go to a professional, get it solved and

(40:13):
savch. AAP sharmaogini kariyar Mehta
kese batao mujhe bukhare. You know I get fracture A to
aapko buralagiga you will you visit a taboo to put a plaster
around your hand, right? Or a collar around your neck or
a Band-Aid true. Is it you?
Will you take think five times for calling your father and
saying listen I fell from here Islip from here I you know

(40:35):
orthopedico dohazar rupi dyne for mental health maps barely to
khutkoi barbatkar doge and that kinnenini battana ne a peseni
loge did yeh bhari mentality youknow he mental health karch
karne. True, True that.
That is one of stopping point ofa lot of things.

(40:56):
So yeah, if you can spend 2000 bucks for an ECG or a true, you
know, just treat it the same way.
It's help. Yes, you know and I think log
down kit, I'm being a whole ratathat the insurance companies are
talking about, you know getting even the mental health into
insurance policies. I don't know how much it off it
has been implemented. Yes, yes, it's true.
True. So yeah, I I that's exactly

(41:19):
right. Like mental health should be
treated as a part of your normalhealth.
Like, yes, you you allocate budget for your health budgets
and like this is also a part of it I guess absolutely true.
So what do you feel like? Just like I said, it's not
really buzzword, but like peoplesometimes wrongly associate
themselves, they are just sad about something and they just go

(41:42):
in a wrong name that they are depressed or something.
Just like, how do they really know they are really depressed?
Or they're just they need to just be happy about some things?
They're just getting into the wrong path by mistake because
not really knowing what depression is or something like
that. Pelibato insan, both Khushree

(42:02):
can be depressed. OK.
It's like yeah, yeah, both hamari misconception and OK,
keep depression looks like this.OK you know what I'm saying?
Depression. Akbandar Ki socho Visualize said
ke to APU kya dikray. So you're probably seeing
somebody Jonah Hayaani A Bandra didn't say or tisu pathar and

(42:25):
they feel clear I am depressed or I'm not.
Whatever. Firstly, go somewhere and get it
checked. Seek a professional.
I've given you my Instagram thing.
DM me, Figure out. Do the research.
Agar app. Friends.
Go phone kakke bhojsakk you listen.
Do you know a specialist? Heart specialist, lung
specialist, whatever. So app is killer.
You only find out kar Ek dusra kutko app Diagnosed with this

(42:46):
right checklist. Raku Am I exercising every day?
I'll give you a proper example. If you go to a psychologist or
CBT therapist, which is cognitive behavior therapy, they
will check you. They will they will ask you,
they will administer questionnaires on you and they
will ask you and if you're exercising.
There have been cases where let's say Agar apne was score

(43:07):
bharapna. He was my question like henki
apku kya kanaga, mankartaya kitnam to figure out what your
mental health is like, right? Right.
If you're exercising, your scorewill be less OK, far away from
being suicidal. OK that that's good you're
understanding so app you know recently I was doing this study
and it said that if you can takea cold shower cold shower

(43:30):
Baltimadaldo dothin would have put it raise bar of kid Aldo OK
and you take a bath with that your when you expose your body
to extreme cold showers the dopamine level goes as high as
what you it would go when you take a shot of cocaine.
Can you imagine? So while we are going to
substance abuse or some sort of abuse that we are putting

(43:53):
ourselves through to feel happy to get a dopamine hit.
Right, right, right. But wohi hota hai jabab exercise
kuro jabab Ek char gane laga ke Nacho Avi ganpati ane wala.
I'm telling you every time you get an opportunity to dance
dance Dikhre Rao dhol Wale hai muba nadheny steal moments and

(44:20):
ways and incorporate them in your life right where you can
keep these hormones in and thesein check Dopamine serotonin
aapapni check me raksha code what simple tarikaya physically
movement row agile row agarachani lagra to baat karu.
Yeah don't try to self diagnose OK let's and you're it's a very
good point that you have becauseI have come across a lot of

(44:41):
times that people have used it like a trown card also.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, yeah.
So, right, right, that's. But if somebody's suffering
silently, we should not be a culture or a society.
That should be OK with that. True, true.
That is very true. So yeah, I guess that is we got

(45:04):
a lot lot of information insightabout mental health and like
summing, summing it up all up. Like I feel we can just give it
in this way that we should not really care.
Much about the people, when we are doing something for
ourselves and also on the same side, we should care about the
mental health of other people. We should not just disturb them

(45:29):
something like that. Or even if they're not being
able to do something, we should be supportive of them like
support system is a very important thing.
So yeah. How it cannot be a one person
thing. You have to be two person.
So yeah, we got a lot of things learned from this part of
podcast. We will see you in the next
segment of ours. We will have a rapid fire about
mental health in the next segment.
Sounds good. Sounds good.

(45:50):
So summing it all up like last three points we got the three
three Ruhi tips is like if you have any paper like any any
problems, write it down on our page on every morning and sum it
all up in paper and just throw it away.
And the second one is like go for a 45 minutes walk.

(46:13):
That would really help. And the third one, I guess
first, the people who want to get into storytelling and I
guess everyone wants to get intothat.
Everyone wants to be vocal aboutwhat they want to, what they
feel. So do a mirror technique thing
and that would very really help you out.
So, OK, let's see. Let's see you in the rapid fire

(46:35):
round. Sounds good.
Thank. You thank you.
Thank you guys. Thank you.
So what do you feel the biggest mental health myth that it's a
drama burnout is not a good ideabecause it will take a toll in
your health later. So when you're trying to save
like say 15 days or two years and then you're, you know, going

(46:57):
behind by five years because it backfires.
Definitely, definitely.
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