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Hi Rina, Mina Tina. Oh God.
The issue was not that Hammar Nikhli.
The issue was we could not get inside.
Ratko Hamjab Boom Furke Wapasa Panj Bajar and we are figuring
out how to go inside Qk entry main door Satujani Sattya either
first or we are trying to climb.We are unable to climb.
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So finally we had to go from thefront but it was an adventure.
And then Galli, Padi, the disciplinary committee with high
Guy. Yeah, yeah.
So I was sitting for a lunch with a very famous, very famous
celebrity in Bollywood. OK, that.
And then he was sitting next to me.
All of a sudden he becomes SuperPali with me.
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Right. And Super Pali is like, how are
you? In case, hey summer what's up?
Khana ka friendly. But you know, it was just not
that. So Mera thay.
So he's sitting right here, right?
And he's calling like summer howare you bro And was constantly
we're doing this. He was squeezing my thighs and
I'm like what is happening? Why is this.
And he kept squeezing my thigh for a good 40 odd minutes.
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It was it was like it was obviously friendly.
But may I was in back town to medical.
We are like OK, if guys buy thismerch it has a butterfly written
on it. I mean drawn on it and sit hands
on it. It's purple by the way.
It's. Personalized.
It's superbly personalized. It's black.
And you know what else is black?Your future.
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If you don't buy this shirt. OK, so buy this shirt.
So your future is not black. OK, buy it.
Consume. Consumerism is great.
Capitalism. Look at me in the eyes.
Consume. Eat.
Yeah. Hello Rizwan, welcome to the
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strict show. I'm your very own host Shruti
Sinha and today with us we have which is some of Pratap like.
Hello Sir. Hi Shruti.
Thank you, Simon. Thank you for joining us today.
Thank you for inviting me. So starting with when I was
doing a little bit of research on you starting with Instagram,
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the first thing I came across was a username obviously.
So what is the significance of your username sum out of 69?
I used to sing in a band earlier, so I just felt that the
song Summer of 69 by Bryan Adams, it was one of my
favorites because he talks abouthow he gets his first guitar and
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he starts singing, makes his ownband.
That resonated with me. At the point of time when I had
made my first band, I became thelead vocalist.
It was my own band, yeah. And I thought for a while that I
would make a living out of singing songs.
And I grew up eventually so, butstill I think somewhere or the
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other. That sentiment kind of stayed
with me, you know? And when I was making my ID on
Instagram, I think everything needs to have a layer.
One for the world and one for yourself, right?
So for the world it could mean anything, but to me it meant a
song childhood. Significance.
Yeah, the childhood significance.
And that's a story that is personal to me.
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So I wanted that to be there. And it's just a very nice fun
and people like puns, so yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So that's why. The next question is related to
your bio. I'm going very chronological.
So it's written that from Keit and then IIN.
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So what is your journey from Keit to Iin Okay?
I'll tell you a interesting anecdote, right.
So recently I was make client meeting for Jania Latha USA
Pahele there was this one of theconsultants that we're working
with and now he's not a full time consultant of mine.
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He's like he works in the capacity like you know my
project basis bit to open the ayatham recent meeting with beta
and he was talking about this XYZ client not gonna name them
obviously but he was like how isclient give us chaleja there I
don't know how to pitch my kya karing so will they like this.
So I was talking about the pitchright And he goes something like
hey Arun go aka I am ka tagged the carring and she'll be
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convinced I'm like wait why? Because what if I did not have
the tag right? And it really struck me.
I said regardless of the tag, I think the work should speak for
itself, for itself, right Tags. And I will tell you something.
I'm a hammeric faculty there on a bot.
Beautiful white cheese bolata. Yeah, your institution should
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not draw its Sorry. You should not draw credibility
from an institution. But your institution should drop
credibility from you to come. ASA karo kya AA papka tag nalika
but jowatka tag that gets famousbecause of what you do, right?
So Mereko you save A tag he latha T shape and it's sad that
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a lot of people will give you more legitimacy and credibility
because you have a certain tag attached to you.
But in my opinion, that's all there is to it.
It's A tag. It's a beautiful tag no doubt,
but it's A tag. At the end of the day, your work
should speak because I know so many people who have passed,
passed out of Iims and Iits and they do not amount up to much
and kids who go from, you know, third tier engineering colleges
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and they still make history. I'm not saying that I am so bad
in which way, I'm just saying that your credibility and your
legitimacy should come from yourwork and not from your tag.
And that's my take on this. It is very slow in your case
because recently you went to Cape.
Yeah. And we talk.
Yes, yes, yeah, it was. It was interesting because may
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Bbla or see batch with her or Merigo with the Salovan, they
are calling me back. How?
Many years, quite a few years I would say 7 maybe.
Maybe I have if I'm correct, maybe 7 odd years almost.
I'll have to check. I'm not sure because I've lost
but I think 7 Merigo Jitnaya this 7 to 8 Max Max thought this
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is happening but how major udharghya it was like it was like
going back to your home. It was like a homecoming and
major home bbi ke bachcho dekha raha mehro pataya all these kids
they have been forced to come here by the faculty.
So may the 1st slide when I go like in Jolo get the zor the
verdus tiya ho NI ko A and surprisingly all of them had fun
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to Mera Jo Ek dhar thay Ki neyarmehgar jaaron tu and go bore
nikarwanay. They have to get something out
of that workshop. I think that was fulfilled.
I think as a student I would also agree to this that the
biggest fever in a workshop is getting bored.
Correct. Amma abhi Jatte I'mmodo.
We ever experienced a fun workshop.
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I think we learned a lot from that exactly because see Meru
Vadla both their teachers faculties and Majabhat karthon
kya aaj kalki bacha partha me here.
Thanks to TikTok and all that aapka attention span.
Tikmatha, Instagram Karim, right.
Instagram wheels now it's so beautifully managed.
The tech has made our attention span so low.
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Ki Hu so article faculty will take in bachchon ka distraction
ojatha onko padhani Pathak. My take on that is kya opposite
Padhanas Tiku, because you have to update the way you're
teaching, right? Back in the 16th century,
there's a bachongo padhajatha. It's no longer relevant anymore,
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right? Because it was not relevant 20
years ago also. So why do you think what was
relevant 20 years ago will be relevant now?
Pawa way of calling it Meh Jattostand up comedy.
Karme Gillier, right? I go there to crack jokes.
I go there to understand exactlywhat these kids are thinking
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because it's A to and fro approach.
It's not there to jacket Bhasharthough for about two hours.
I call it experiential learning because a huge part of this
workshop is the kids doing. That's the magic of it.
I don't talk much. I talk for a hardly half an hour
whiskey about the rest of the workshop.
One hour is just them doing a certain thing, and they learn
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what? So they also, like, really in
one dinner? Yeah, that's the whole point.
Education has to be in bombing right here.
You to Kitnaya? Yeah.
Up the and big AO keep Big AO Pick it.
So substance, but two different.
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Different. Completely different.
Yeah. I cannot pick between the
dohibara, Raghu, Dohibara and Katak and a very nice hyderabadi
biryani in paradise. You know two different things,
right? In kit, I learned that you
community matters. And then I am I understood why,
right? I'll tell you what I mean by
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that. See Kit?
No miracle. Dostiga Matlasikaya.
Right. But you know what is why I am
Katakitana. Stronger because you draw a lot
of resources from your alumni community.
So Jabba Koh alumni card they give you access to the entire
alumni connect to I am May Jitnilog from the inception of I am
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Jitni Lok padio era you get you get to be a part of that
community. So there is this one, you know
what do you say platform where you can actually connect with
all the alumnis, so mereko otherarch kit which problem were
right. For example, I want to move, I
want to get some funding for a certain say startup that I'm
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working with right. I can just go on this platform
and say hey guys, this is the idea.
This is what the kids are doing.Do you think we can get some
funding and instantly, right youcan't do that on LinkedIn
because LinkedIn may have poor requests.
Amazing. So the biggest asset of their
tag is just the alumni connect. Other than that it's like any
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other university to manageable like a Dostika, matlab, Manasika
kids say. But I understood you why your
networking has to be so strong, why your friendship or your
community has to be so strong and I am and obviously there was
there was a huge gap between these two events.
So inside my head also it got kind of assembled in that time.
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Yeah, if that makes any sense, so.
Any incident that happened in Kate or I am that you remember?
Like for something adventurous or something kind of something
adventurous? Kid with the both adventure
right? Starting from starting from rock
garden to help. I'm kidding.
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Rock garden on the practice. That's what I meant.
But yeah kit methu bahadur venzakya ya ramlok matlab Bo pani
meku jatt TE Hua mera ke so meghbut is saying bolne geliya so
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many hostel make room liar liar guwahata.
But may gharvi yadhatha may knowhostel Islay room yadha.
OK jump merugu mankare those stories are hand out to negili.
I have a room OK. So it was a namesake of of and
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Ibad Bodbad wad in the middle ofdata week he has to room kyun le
rakhai tum de feast to there. You don't use him over there so
what's the point? I don't want to and plus me
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Allo. So what we did was our hostel
that was just newly constructed and it was not the other hostel.
It was the Afghani students international students Udhair
Amara hostel to their Ek Khidki first flora me how many figure
out Khalsa first was in. So we did what we thought was
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best Khamit chalanglari hum chalegi.
The issue was not that Hammaar Mikali.
The issue was we could not get inside.
Ratko hum jabhoom furke Wapasa panj bajeer and we're figuring
out how to go inside. QK entry main door Satujani
sector. It has first door.
We are trying to climb. We are unable to climb.
So finally we had to go from thefront but it was an adventure.
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And then Galli, Padi, the disciplinary committee.
Bit high guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We were like, really? Yeah.
Who are they? But it was so much fun.
I think I am. My favorite was when they taught
us about design thinking. Again, because design thinking
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has really shaped the way I work.
What is it? Design thinking is a framework
of solving a problem. For example, if I tell you OK
Yeh Ch's TUD Gaya right, so you'll be like challo love may
glue love every quick love. This is how we normally approach
a problem right? OK, problem and problem go fix.
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Karo design thinking is asking why did it break right?
Is the material bad? Is the wood bag Glass may
cracks, kehya crack. Kidder's there, so understanding
exactly why it broke down and fixing that so that it never.
Came yeah, why the problem initially?
So it's a way of defining, redefining the problem, right.
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I will give you an example how design thinking is relevant.
So for example, you know there are these headphones.
So there was this guy who came to this one tech company and he
said, hey guys, I want to be able to share underwater to
merely a Casa your phone, ABBA Rao just in my underwater sun
Pavva. So obviously a lot of tega
approached it the way normally we approached on this.
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OK, so he wants them, who wants to hear underwater, So let's
make him a earphone. Right.
Everybody tried to make a earphone.
They were extra padded as a Mullah, woollen kar ke padadi.
They will lose speakers underwater.
Pujbi, right. Then this guy came along and he
said, you know what the problem statement is?
Not that he wants a earphone underwater with which he can
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hear. The problem statement is he
wants to hear underwater. So fix that.
OK, so they went back and they made this device and I'm not
screwing around. You can actually Google this.
They made a device with which you can put it against this
bone. Here they're like apke here,
kiss. I'm like born or that.
So this device presses against. It's like a headphone, but it
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has nothing to do. So bones say onone sound to
conduct Kia, so you could hear the sound inside your head
through conduction between your bones.
So ears are your other. Your bone conductions are
rather. So you see you were able to hear
music underwater, but not through your ears but through
the bone that is near your ears.So it's a way of redefining a
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problem and coming with a solution that you could not have
thought right. So that is what design thinking
is. So that one lecture on design
thinking, I think it sent my life on a different rejectory.
I was like, no, I know what I doin life.
I think I will approach it with her design thinking approach.
I will not do things that peopleask me to do, but I'll try to
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give them the value that they donot know that they deserve,
right? If that makes any sense.
No, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it makes sense to me.
But measure both of the low oneswho are confuse those at 3:00
get. Next question is, it's a latest
question I feel. Recently there are newses.
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There is a news scheme India Co Bharat Kandinga change the name.
But many people are giving this logic.
The Constitution, we already mentioned here, India, Yafit
Bharat. That is Bharat or something.
Yeah, yeah. It's Bharat.
So what if they change the name of Orissa to Kandinga?
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You know, in the national anthemalso Orissa is referred as
Utkal, correct? So if they change Orissa's name,
what is your take on that? What is my take on that?
So what? Do you think about it?
What do I think about that? I feel that miracle if anything
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is done. For example, anything.
For example, even if I'm pickingup this can and I'm drinking
right one, there should there should be a purpose behind that.
OK, it should not be for nothinglike it should not be a gimmick
right? So to that end up AAP sochiya ke
naam other kisi jagaka AP naam change karveo What does it mean?
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Like is there an end goal to that?
What is so mere a monument? The reason why India Kanam
Bharat change over my understanding of this now, I
could be wrong in assuming, is that I think we all need a sense
of community. And I'm not saying that we did
not have that sense of communityearlier.
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We did not take pride in our roots earlier.
I'm just thinking that calling India Bharat kind of puts that
sentiment on OverDrive, right? India is great.
It's a lovely name, but Bharat has a touch of nationalism to
it, and I think that's what it is.
It has a purpose to it. A lot of people are talking
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about it being right or wrong, and I don't think that should be
the debate right. It's not a matter of right or
wrong. The right question is that what
is the purpose of it and if the purpose makes sense, right?
I will tell you what because I am Ki baat coding too.
I'm the homada oric professor. Beautiful city summer.
There are no right and wrong answers.
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There are only appropriate answers.
OK, appropriate answers. OK, I'll explain it to you.
For example, a big business, no take care business.
A big Hatim HL where you have tocut your costs.
OK, Cutting cost means consolidation, though you will
have to fire a lot of people, the same guy who hired a lot of
time companies. What they do is they get another
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CEO to do the firing, right? Case in point, Disney.
OK, Disney has recently gone back to get the previous CEO
because he was known for cost cutting and making like he's
like a turn around guy. And this is the guy who goes to
department department. Hi.
You know, fires everybody. He's ruthless.
So. So they care.
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Is it the right thing to fire people?
No it's not. You know a lot of livelihoods
are heard. A lot of houses are heard, but
it is appropriate. It's a very difficult thing to
do. For the company, For the
company, right, it's not right. For the people it's but it's for
the stakeholders. For that CEO, it's appropriate
to other up, other morally rightor wrong upper whose argument?
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My first job. Yet then you won't be able to
take decisions. So you will have to understand
the context when you're faced tothe problem.
And you have to ask yourself what is an appropriate answer,
not a right and wrong. Because moral decisions clearly
are business when he goes to 1. And when people come to you for
a solution, normally they don't ask for a morally right, they
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ask you for an appropriate solution.
Which? Which?
Will actually work, work, and which will work for most number
of people, Which will work keeping the future in mind?
That's what I think again. But again, I don't know if that
is the right thing to think or not, and I know it's.
Your opinion? Many people.
It's an appropriate opinion. Appropriate opinion?
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Yeah. Yeah.
So if they change or itself's name to think they would think
it will give a, they see touch to.
Will it give a they see touch? Absolutely it will give a they
see touch. But again, why is very important
not kuch kar diya. If the why makes sense to me,
only then will I be able. I don't think then renaming any
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state or a place makes much sense.
Then renaming a place or a statedoesn't make sense.
Why? Why?
Why? Why?
Kya Yoga, you're just changing the name.
What is the purpose for that? You changed the name.
Why did you change the name? Like why?
Hi, Rina Mina. Tina.
Oh God. I get the point but.
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Nothing is ke apnima naam changekyabi to it.
I felt in love. Absurd.
OK, so you felt absurd because Ichanged it to some random
nonsensical name. Had I named you something that
you know you were identified as,or there was meaning to that
name? Would you have minded, for
example, something like something like Tamare khadmi
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tumbu kya bulatha? I'm still it has a meaning
attached to do not mind it right.
But still Junam, we have heard from the very beginning.
I have actually from from my childhood I have heard and
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called India as India only. So if you change it to Bharat, I
don't mind calling it Bharat. I think it's a very beautiful
name. But still, what?
Yeah, yeah, the. Thing is me, many people are
saying the same thing, right? Why do you have to change it?
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It's. It's yeah, I mean people.
Crystal Okengelo in Subbatto me now.
Sorry so. You support this thing that
India should be called as. Can be called as.
I support anything that puts my nation first.
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Anything that puts puts. Very effective, yeah.
The next question is about our Jakarnath Mandir.
I think many people know about it.
It's a very famous place. What are your experience to
Mahatrabhu Jagannath? I mean, we have all heard a lot
of miracles. In fact, I have said the
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miracles of Halo. Have you ever felt something on
that chart? I think he helps you in very
mysterious ways, right? Medico, Latte, Kevo, APKO.
MATLAB directly helped me. He puts you in situations where
you find solutions for it and hehelps you finding those
solutions, right? And he's a he's a beautiful,
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he's a very beautiful entity that way.
For example, MAP, HODC, Batatho.I was growing up in South India,
right? I was growing up in Bangalore
for a while. I was in Chennai for a while,
went through a phase where I hadto Madhlo merubu kuch sahini
jaratha. You know, I had a lack of
purpose. How were you?
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I was like, what, 1516 teenage, right?
Or this is, yeah, this is the age where you're trying to find
yourself. Yeah, but mera na bahat upan
nija jagaratha, for example. My mother's health was very bad.
And you know, she was she was struggling with her health.
I had certain issues that I was kind of grappling with or
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miracle. There was a point when I I know
this will sound, I don't know this will sound strange, but I
was feeling suicidal at one point of time.
Right. Even as a teenager.
I know Kya Hahi Ethan. A burden.
Oh yeah. Tuwaraki, you're feeling
suicidal. But you know I was not feeling
in the best of my mental health.Autab Kya over there.
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I relocated to Odessa after a few years after a huge bout of
not feeling great. And I was like, yeah, why am I
going to Odessa, right? Like I was not very excited
about the prospect. Of in South India, mostly.
Mostly. I did not grow up in Odesa.
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In new Place. It was a new place for me.
So I was like, I had seen Odessain snapshots jab.
We my grandfather gave her guata.
I was like, why am I going to Odessa?
There's no point to it. But you know, after I came to
Odessa, I actually found the purpose, right?
So Marico Lakhtai, it was Jagannath, Sri Jagannath's way
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of Lord Jagannath's way of throwing me a purpose.
Because the way I came down is also very strange.
I was not supposed to come here.I was getting a scholarship in
another university in Bangalore and I literally said no to that
scholarship because I felt that Agar Mein Kesumkuao.
Then half day I'll be able to kind of do my studies and the
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other half I'll be able to be productive, I'll be able to do
ad films, I'll be able to do video side hassle basically.
So I got more liberty here although I was getting
scholarship there. So yeah, I mean get reasonable
choice and here reasonable choice.
But still for some reason I ended up here and I met a lot of
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people who helping me become whoI am and it there was a lot of
luck involved. OK, just saying that I am
amazing and I'm hard working andit's all me is just arrogance,
right? A huge part of success is built
upon absolute dumb luck and I think luck is a reduction of
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divine intervention, right? For example, Bhagwan, apku,
buhat aspects may help. Compare Orapus, Helco, Lakka,
lamdev right, right. OK to mirabal attack correct na
pic Chhota's example. And this is an actual.
I still have goosebumps wheneverI hear this DLFSM and muzar to
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that Saath Vemalaipa up in office Lunga literally two years
later Saath vemalaipa office airVera.
Take it aaj Ki did me when a DLFmajor officer it's on 7th floor
or 7th floor when I sleep all after while I was passing back
because seven is my lucky number.
It's my mother's number. I had just lost my mother.
So I was like, I want that office and I got that office
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right. So it's go up luck bolo barwan
ka kripa Bolu Srijagannath's it's And who is the Lord of
Universe? Srijagannath.
So yeah, universe helping you orconspiring for you is Lord
Srijagannath's blessings. So yeah.
This this success and everythingyou think.
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I'm not successful yet, but I'm relatively doing better.
I know we are just aspiring for success and you are already
doing relatively. Relatively, yeah.
So who asks? You are.
So you think that he plays a wearing Ranger role?
Definitely. I'll tell you what, the other
day I was running a fever. And yes, yes, but USA Ekdin
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Pehle bhi Mera Halat Baut karata.
Though podcasts were shoot one with Mr. s s Ray and another
with Sabyasachi. Sabyasachi is podcast I shot in
the morning. But second-half my body was just
not holding up. I was starting to shiver.
I felt like I'm gonna drop dead at one point of time.
And I was sitting in the office and I was shivering right then I
kept repeating this thing to me.I was mumbling it and my my one
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of my business partners was sitting there with me, said
someone, what are you mumbling? And I was just like, I keep
mumbling. How worthy are you?
Whenever I feel weak, I just say, how worthy are you?
How worthy are you? Because the response to how
worthy are you is always very worthy, right?
And when you have that internal monologue going for you, no
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matter how sick you are, you find an excuse to sit anywhere
for an hour more and do your work.
Right after I did that, yeah, I got it done with.
I was able to walk back to the car.
The minute I came back home, I collapsed and I had like a
shivering fever until morning and I slept for about 15 odd
hours and then I was fine. So again, damla bolo.
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Divine intervention. Bolo patani.
OK. And the next question is.
Somewhere in your post I saw in the caption that you mentioned
that you will bullied for being in Odia.
Yes, I was. So I presume it's in the South.
Yeah, it was in South India. But it was not always S Indians
who believed me. There were also a lot of North
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Indians. In fact, there were a lot of
North Indians in Odissa who had believed me.
For Odissa. In Odissa, Yes, yes.
I won't name them, but there were a few of my North Indian
friends not bullied me. Bullied is a strong word.
But there was an aspect of therewas an aspect of condescension
right in college or the childhood.
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The bullying different. It is a very direct bullying and
shit like that, right? Pardon my French, but as you
grow up the bullying takes a different format or shape or
size, right? It's not a direct form of
bullying. It's a very.
It's a very condescending kind of.
It's pinch pinch while I told right so it's cool by bullying,
but definitely a sense of condescension miracle fino Tata.
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And I'm not saying the reason, I'm saying North Indian S
Indians, just that the negativity in Ifalana Sato facts
are facts, right. This is this is what I've
endured. And I'm not saying is are in
North Indians as in South Indians as there there's a lot
of good people. There are a lot of bad people.
So S Indians in a Siffneck. Yeah.
People across. In fact, both Odia and Navy were
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both. A lot of Odias put down Odias
themselves. Right.
So, you know, we. It's, it's a mixed bag.
Right. And yes, in childhood I was
bullied. The short answer is yes, I was
bullied. Yeah.
Like how old you. And then I remember the first
incident, the first incident as if my I can recollect my memory
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properly. I think I was barely like 11-12
years old. USA Pehle to MATLAB, Vitana,
Matlab awareness, Neeta, geography.
I think, right? I was just another kid in the
class who did not speak Telugu or Malayalam or Tamil or
Kannada. But I think after certain age, I
think that cultural differences start showing up to a huge
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degree. And that's when I think camps
are formed. Yeh, teluguwala.
Yeah I. Think being brought up in South
India also leaves a huge infant turning.
Because even being from our typical Odeya family and growing
up in our Odeya environment, thestate also matters a lot.
The surrounding also matters a lot.
So I think you have some connection to the South.
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Oh yes, I call, I call Chennai my second home, right.
I speak in Telugu and I can understand Tamil.
I used to be very good at Tamil but I thought I've lost touch.
I can understand Kannadiga, sorry, Kannada, my bad.
Yeah, I have a very close what do you say association with
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South India and I love South India.
I love the food. I love the culture.
I love the people also but I wasreally delicate So but it
doesn't make that entirely bad is right.
It's a mixed bag of memories andsome bitter, some sweet.
This is not only for Odiya people, I think this is all over
the country that regional differences people don't exactly
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pursue it as very positive and they make a big issue of it
everywhere. Being born as a Bengali in
Odisha, I think I have. Accepted me very nice thing and
I have never been bullied from being an so happy and mad that
has ever happened. I think Bengali people are very
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sweet and a lot of people think that I despise or dislike
Bengali I. Feel that before coming here.
Now I don't. Because, see, jokes are jokes.
And jokes apart. I have a lot of love and respect
for Bengali people. Not a lot of people know this,
but I have Bengali roots, OK? So for me it's more about a
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social commentary and it's abouthumor.
A lot of times it's about humor.Sometimes I feel very strongly
about causes like Rasapula, right?
It's a huge debate and people are like as such what they say
Batka Q patangada benado. For me, it's not a Chhota sa
Batka. What has a deep association with
one's culture? So exactly are you feeling that
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Rasul Orissa Ka Hai is, I think you're feeling to me factor.
So I think it's it's very you will have strong see for me it's
a symbol it's not a sweet it's asymbol it's a symbol to in
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mortic draconian lotha Sunset law.
I will deep dive into this a little bit.
So because of Sunset Law, what used to happen is that Joby
Farmer, yeah, landlord Odissa Colonial.
India. Yeah, in colonial India, right.
Because back in the that time there was number separation,
right? It was all of it was Presidency,
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right? Like there was no Orissa, there
was no W Bengal. All of this was like this.
So but Odissa was a separate culture.
It was separate. They were separate people.
But either Jatnavi lands up hotel because landlords were
unable to pay taxes to the British.
Unka Nilamika Odata W Bengal right Odisa many Odata.
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So naturally a lot of lags Marquee KREM de la KREM good
lands were sold for dirt cheap rates in West Bengal.
So naturally a lot of Bengalis became our Zamindas.
So we were one colonized by the British, then we were, you know,
we are subjugated and we were also, we know our masters were a
lot of Bengali people. Nothing wrong with that.
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But inbuilt was a psyche that ohsomewhere or the other that you
know, we have masters and Bengalis are our masters and a
lot of our. But this was introduced by
British Of course it was. It was a way of dividing our
country. It was very methodically done.
Yeah. So what?
What the British did with India and Pakistan, they did with
Odessa and West Bengal, and I'm very aware of that.
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What I want today, the reason why I even put up that debate or
that dialogue up in social mediais that I want people to
acknowledge it. I don't want you to fight, see.
Just acknowledge it. Just just acknowledge it.
Yeah people. I think it's because of the
circumstances. That and Miru Kobe.
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See, I don't have anything. Indian, Bengali people.
I love them. Some of my sweetest closest
dearest friends are Bengalis. But debate her to my debate
Karuva, right? But dosti Ariya to chalu will
sit down and have a. Nothing personal, nothing
personal, right? It's it's very civil.
We can sit down, we can call it.But if it's debate, don't accept
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and don't expect any mercy, right?
Because I belong to this camp and I champion this camp very
mercilessly. That's fine here.
That's fine. I think social media people has
seen Gandhi when it's you have so many followers also both come
in. Janice's Please do not call me
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an influencer. No, I.
Did not call him influencer. It's just that you are not a
followers. Narendra Modi has a lot of my
God. There are two different My God,
you are humbling. Yeah.
He is not an influencer, right? That's the first example that
came to my mind. But he's not an influencer,
right? But people like him, so they
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follow in one instead. I'm just a way of or mehto.
I don't even show the characteristics of a creator
right by a consistent name, but.I like your views.
I like your view. I hope you're following.
You're not following? No, not yet.
I tell you, these Bengalis, theycome, They enjoy the content.
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They don't follow you. I'm kidding.
First time I saw, I saw that Matan Matan, I think the laugh
of Matan Bhatta in Odiya people is also very significant in
Bengalis also. Yeah, yeah.
So there are cultural similarities definitely.
We have forgot about the rehab of course.
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So I think of course we are friends, there's no doubt about
it. We are see they cause sibling
liability. You just say otiya apke bhaiyam
bhaiyam, yeah. So there is a sort of healthy
rivalry that Jo Wajah Mazaakuda TE Apnev.
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I knew that was coming. OK, you are pretty famous now,
OK? You were sitting with Anu Mandik
and you were having conversations with national film
directors and Neera Mandir Frandaso and so you are famous
(38:43):
now. You have to accept it.
Proximity to power dilutes people into thinking that they
wield it. Which means that just because I
sit around with a lot of famous people doesn't mean I'm famous
myself, right? It just means that I know a lot
of people and some of them are famous.
I knew you before coming in before Siddhant told me that I
used to have a post cup for Christmas tickets, so.
You are famous company alright? So any experiences that you had
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around the famous people, You wouldn't have to name them, but
any experiences, good or bad experiences you want?
Very weird. I can't name them.
OK, right, right. Because naming Islam and a Kabhi
is a chef. So I was sitting for a lunch
with a very famous, very famous celebrity in Bollywood.
OK, though initially he did not like know me, but then it
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doesn't matter. So he found out about my family
and stuff like that. And then he was sitting next to
me. All of a sudden he becomes super
pally with me, right? And super pally is like how are
you is hey Summer what's up Khana how are you Friendly.
But you know it was just not that to Mera thigh.
So he's sitting right here rightand he's calling like Summer,
(39:58):
Summer how are you bro And was constantly doing this he was
squeezing my thighs and I'm likewhat is happening why is this.
And he kept squeezing my thighs for a good 40 odd minutes.
It was it was like it was obviously friendly but may I was
in back how to mera go bahat Weird like I see.
Sitting down with a celebrity, you still would think that.
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Personally or something. I had met him just in the
capacity, in a very different capacity.
I did not meet him personally, but this was the first time I
was meeting him personally and my family was there and then he
met my family. So I think that's why he got a
little badly also with me. And he's just talking about what
his size and creative there's a sense of purity.
(40:39):
And then he just kept squeezing my thighs and like Banda Ki I
could and but he was a sweetheart.
He was a very sweet guy. Yeah.
Can't name him. Don't ask me the test.
Yeah, yeah, I. Understand.
OK. The next question, you know
there is a lot of stigma around this thing.
You also mentioned this that many Odia people would lead you
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and I have seen this thing that I think you will also
acknowledge many Odia people. Yeah, some Odia.
Few. I think you will also
acknowledge this, that Orissa miracle.
Too many people are like army Odia and Kanti Odia stuff.
And when you go outside Odia, many people, I feel that they,
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they feel a little ashamed, a very strong word, to put it that
way, but I think they don't. Amplify the culture as much as
other people do, like Punjabis and Tamil people.
They are very rooted to their culture.
What do you think about it? So we need to understand two
things, right? A lot of times what we think is
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majority is actually the bubble we live in.
What I mean by that is Jo Humkulatta.
When we go on Internet and we think that oh shit, this is on
the trend, this is what people are talking about.
This is not what everybody is talking about.
This is what your bubble or yoursphere of Internet.
And Internet is a very small sphere.
By the way, a huge part of Indiais not even on the Internet,
(42:06):
right? So Humkulattai, Kit, Twitter,
Bisco cancel, Karado Tapura, youknow the entirety of India knows
that this guy's cancelled. Not true Internet.
Inside Twitter, there are certain lot of people.
They have cancelled someone or they have done something.
And we know. So Java Bolto, OK, there are a
lot of people who are proud of being Odia.
Yes, there are a lot of people who are proud of being Odia, but
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there are also a lot of people who don't have a sense of pride.
Right. These do not confuse these two
people as the same. These two are two separate
crowds. It's just that you get to see a
lot of people on Internet who are proud of being Odeya, and
you're connecting the dots, right?
You see, this is a proud ODEA. This is a proud.
So all Odeas are proud. Not true, not true.
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A lot of ODEA people are making content which talks about ODEA
pride, but that doesn't mean that every last ODEA in Odessa
is proud. And sometimes we need to
mobilize our community feel proud of the things that they
are doing so that they will and it's it's like a feedback to do
where it's it's an internal monologue.
(43:13):
Jitna bologe ke humlo kacha kar re or the other lo kacha
karenge, right. It's part of the process and
that's why the reason why you mentioned all the communities
Punjabis Marwadis. Why do you think these people
though Punjabi are milling it? They'll start talking Punjabi
exactly to Bengalis who will meet, they'll start talking
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Bengalis. You will notice one thing
similar in all these communities, all these
communities are so-called according to the statistics, are
economically very sound. Statistically speaking.
I'm not saying this right. And again, statistically
speaking, Orissa is considered aposted.
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I don't believe there's. Also perception in sound that
Odissa say there's a perception,It's a perception right?
It's a perception. So because there is that
perception and you will see thiswith people from certain
communities is that they disassociate from their own
people because of a certain perception, right.
The minute you change that perception, a lot of people who
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are disassociating will start associating, right?
So it's up to people to change that.
It's a chicken and egg scenario.The perception changes when you
change it. When you start associating, you
start associating. A lot of people will start
associating with our community when you change the perception.
I'll give you a small example. When I started summer of 69,
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there was literally nobody, not a single content creator, who
was talking about Rasagulla DahiBara Matan Bhatta.
OK, like Art History checker, not a single creator.
That's also the reason why I felt the need.
There is a gap. Let's fill it the minute I start
talking and I'm not saying I changed and revolution of Manny
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Bonnam Bonnam ke pani Mein pattan pehboo yeh to ripple
create ho Gai that's the nature of the world.
So manner pani me pattar pehga it ripple create work.
Because of that more people camewith bigger rocks.
They threw bigger rocks into that pond and bigger ripples
were created. So I think that if I with
limited resources, I did something small and that kind of
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started a chain reaction. Imagine what bigger figureheads
are capable of because Match of South India by match of Buliwana
or match of Odisha. The reason why I created summer
of 69 is that bachpan me meruko ASA koi figurehead named Mila
who I couldn't, I couldn't be like, oh, this is the ODI
favorite like a Telugu guy had acelebrity who was Telugu, right?
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Bengali person had a single in Bollywood or you know,
international. But as an Odeya kid, there has
to be to tell a celebrity is gone in.
I did not have a celebrity draw and I maybe I was ignorant.
I did not know enough. But my first concern was a kid.
May I have to talk more about Odesa.
I have to talk more about Odeya culture.
Because only then we can create a representation.
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Only then May and Jo Content Danunga may be five years later
a new content creator will come.He used this as the foundation
and create better. That's how it's done right?
And I hope that it'll continue happening easily.
Aaj Ki did my Uttara aggressively, badly.
Nikas though, because there's somany creators now talking about
(46:29):
and all of the sudden so many people and I'm happy now.
I've taken a backseat. I was like AAP, Chalao, Dhanda,
Mera, Odia. I want to concentrate on bigger
problems now and problems like entrepreneurship in Odessa.
That's my next thing. I want to create more
entrepreneurs in Odessa. I want to make Odessa more
economically sound. Because that's, you know,
(46:50):
perception game, right? How do you change that
perception? We make ourselves so
economically strong that every single Odea who does not want to
call himself Odea will be forcedto claim to be Odea, right.
You have to attack at the Rooks.Sorry, very embassious speech.
Very. Nice.
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Thank you. I think it is said that Odessa
is the best best kept secret of India.
I don't think Odessa should be the best kept secret.
Mehjo pehli var yesuna. I was like, you're you're
romanticizing the fact that nobody knows about her so great.
I mean, I love the copywriting. Jasnevi lekhai about Soat
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Savaske Lekhai was beautifully lekhai but.
Or the meth of Mumbai metha. I was a copywright back then
when I first heard of this. Or I came up with the the
alternative copyright copy for the same thing.
OK to merigolayake jab jab matlab merigo time merigo kaam
dega tu meh. Yes, I just go to Opportunity
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Melegata exposure in Keliye Dua so Meinle which is a glorifying
Bhubaneshwar which talks about the culture of Bhubaneshwar.
In the end of the video, man, itwas copy and it goes like if
Odessa is the best kept secret, then Bhubaneshwar is the one we
(48:15):
tell OK. OK, OK You take a preexisting,
you know copy and you turn it onits head on the 2nd.
So that was the idea. My Bhubaneshwar give you my
Likha Ratha, what is I give you when I push like yeah me Arab.
I think M Bhubaneswar is the capital of podesai think that
makes a lot of sense. Yeah, last question.
(48:39):
Recently in the G20 summit, the IMF chief joined the Sambalpuri
dance and I think all of my friends are sharing with.
I also shared it. You also shared it today in the
story. Yeah.
So or. I think it's a very proud moment
for every Odia and specially Sambalpur, because in the recent
podcast with Neera Madhav Sir, you were talking about that
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Sambalpuri music is not that much you know used in the Odia
industry. Not enough represented.
Enough represented in the Odia industry.
So I think Sambalpuri dance, Tamra bouti famous, right?
It's very wonderful. So I think.
What do you think about this then, Sambalpuri dance?
(49:23):
It was basically represented internationally that way So so
may up quake incident. Batata Madam bachpan me.
I think I was in 5th class or 4th class Yes South India.
No. I was in Andhra Pradesh right
hamara uddhara Ek bhatt bada annual function made multiple
classes ke bacha bhalla SAB met uju ganya P/E hamara
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choreography uratham iravul agratha tabki timepe kiwat
teluguwara. Much later I found out it was
ekada ekada rare pilla so which is a sambalput and much later
(50:15):
for now then sambalpew because our you know, we have not
represented that in our mainstream Agar odia.
And I'm glad people like you know Sona Mohabatra, they push
for our, you know, our our cultural nuances and they
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represent them in mainstream because our culture and our
heritage is rich. What we are lacking is
representation. Trust me, the day we start
representing it beautifully in the mainstream, I believe the
next 10 years are going to be, it's going to represent the
growth story of Odessa. I genuinely believe that because
the next 10 years, India is on atangent and we are going to
(50:59):
grow. I believe in our growth story
and I believe in Odessa's growthstory.
And I think more representation in mass media, more
representation on Internet mainstream representation.
Get there. I think a lot of people are
already on it. Yeah.
Yeah, they're on it. On it.
It's about that. Yeah.
So there is this foreign settlement that we planned is
(51:19):
that we have three objects, not objects, OK2 objects and one
something. OK.
So you have to sell it to the audience, to the audience,
right? How do I know that they're
buying if that else? Buying, yeah.
How would you send it if you were to?
(51:40):
You were to set it up. This is my merch.
Yeah, OK, the first thing is Asterix come much?
Yep. Here this job here right?
Now, nothing wrong with being a salesman salesman.
This is this is so much. Ah, setup.
(52:07):
Yeah, guys, buy this merch. It has a butterfly written on
it. I mean, drawn on it and sit
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It's personalized. It's superbly personalized.
It's black. And you know what else is black?
Your future if you don't buy this shirt.
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OK, so buy this shirt. So your future is brought back.
OK, buy it. Consume.
Consumerism is great capitalism.Look at the eyes.
Consume. Eat.
Yeah, that was very good. I wouldn't destination.
Buy it Yeah. Prices sour of 69 in 9969.
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Asterix website Asterix OK, how much is it?
It's it's retailing from 699 andI'm sour of 69 and I approve
this message. Go to their website.
Buy the heck out of it. They should run out of all their
inventory. They should crown because their
website is overloading. They cannot pay their interns
anymore. OK, so buy, consume.
(53:19):
Very nice. The next thing you have to do is
I was. I was sponsored.
I'm supposed to sell this also. OK guys, as you know, Red Bull
gives you wings. And guess what else has wings?
Cheers. T-shirts with butterflies on
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them. And please have some Red Bull.
More consumption, guys. Cheers.
Love Red Bull? You should be paid for fun, man.
Red Bull should be paying you for this.
Nice. The one dust thing thing.
Not thing, but OK one dust. I have a founder Siddhant
Tripathi, teased out. Hi, what's up?
(54:04):
I have to tell this guy, bro, you don't have wings.
So I have to tell you, right, Which is the camera?
There's the camera. Take it guys.
(54:25):
Bye Sundant. Sadhanth is March.
Siddhant is enterprising. Siddhant's makes and rich
clearly because he's paying these people 15K a month.
And the bootstrap. I don't know where the money is
coming from. Clearly not VC funded, but
Siddhant knows people in very high places.
Clearly so by Siddhant. Especially girls.
(54:47):
Especially girls by Siddhant. If anyone wants to date me.
Yeah, anybody wants to date Siddha.
What's I need? What's I need SITDH got PNT
under score that because you better be sliding into sedans,
Dms because he's going to give you much.
Pretty much. That's pretty much.
(55:08):
He got someone. Yes.
Last option to be a gold digger.Yeah.
It's just all my God, no, I I the bread.
Sugar daddy. Indo.
Oh my God. I did say I don't have that
summer of 69 Meera now. I'm kidding.
(55:31):
But yeah, he's the very ambitious kid and it's an
amazing team of very bright young kids and bache.
And he's a sweetheart. Means buy him or buy his much or
buy whatever product he's tryingto sell you.
He's amazing. Yeah.
Is that enough alright? Thank you so much for watching
(55:55):
this podcast. Like, share and subscribe.
Bye.