Mariam Abdul-Rashid & Duan Asemota - From Olympic Dreams to Everyday Quirks: Insights with Canadian Track Stars #244 - The Athletes Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So grade 11, I'm at a basketball tournament.
We're supposed to be going todo Bounce National, which is the
biggest meet of the indoor meet.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
For high school kids.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
For high school kids of the year.
I have a game on Sunday.
We leave on Wednesday.
Sunday came broke my ankle,called the coach on Monday, told
him I can't come.
I didn't run for the rest ofthe year.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hey, welcome back to the 244th episode of the
Athletes Podcast today featuringMariam Abdul-Rashid and Dwayne
Asimota, two Canadian Olympianswho just came back from Paris.
I drove up to Durham, haddinner with the two of them and
had the best time just choppingit up, hearing stories from them
around Paris, the ups, thedowns, the in-betweens, and
honestly, just learning aboutthe sprinting, the hurdling, the

(00:41):
culture that is track and field.
As I dive deeper into thissport, I continue to be amazed
at the different intricaciesthat are involved and every
single little variable that's atplay, and I hope you folks
continue to appreciate what weare privy to here on the
Athletes Podcast.
I'm feeling grateful here afterCanadian Thanksgiving to be

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Ahead of the Toronto WaterfrontMarathon here in a few days, on
Sunday October 20th, I will beracing in it.
I will be going for that subfour hour marathon time and I
appreciate all the messages thatyou folks have been sending.
I know I'm not the greatest atgetting back to everyone, but it
means the world to me and Ican't wait to share it with some
of you here in Toronto.
And if you're not here, let'sget a workout in, let's go for a

(01:44):
run.
I'm traveling all across NorthAmerica here and I want to meet
all these fantastic individualswho are listening to the
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incredible stories on a weeklybasis.
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Let's get going.
This is the 244th episode ofthe Athletes Podcast.

(02:05):
Thank you for tuning in.
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Speaker 1 (02:39):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
He's been acting who has to change their lock screen
before they leave here.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Are you serious?
It's actually a location thing,did you answer?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
the question though Do you have two phones?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I actually, I do have two phones, you do have two
phones.
Oh, that's what we were talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
No, okay, okay, he has phones in Paris.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
They did okay.
But okay, samson, good start.
I have two phones granted, okay.
But here's the thing For real,Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Not for bullshit.
Okay, two active lines.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I have one active line, I have a lot of cellular
phones.
I mean, I'm a tech guy.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Are you?
Yeah, you are yeah, yeah.
I was looking through yourLinkedIn.
I saw that, yeah, I'm a techguy.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
that stuff like that, so you know we get another line
from ac anyway.
He's been posed this questionbefore.
Yeah, we get another line fromac anyway, it's free, so you use
it.
Yeah, it's a free line, likeit's from ac air canada I don't
know, it's from bell uh throughbell and ac partnership.
We have a.
We have a free line, so it's a905 number.
I use at&t.
I have a us number because wego back and forth a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
And.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I don't like to incur fees when I go to the US and I
want to use data, call etc.
So AT&T is North America, whenAC has meets or training camps,
wherever.
It's just like I can have onenumber and plus when I'm here
data still works, plus it'scheaper.
So when they gave us the lineand plus it all, just plus what

(04:06):
you know what the crazy thing is, it's just stigma around phones
.
Why can't business people havetwo phones?
They do, they do, they do.
In case I'm a businessman Drugdealers yeah, you're a
businessman, you know what.
We need to stop the stigmaaround the two phones.
It does not mean cheater, drugdealer, it just means person who
likes to be organized and havethings in different places.
If I have two's, why it'sdifferent?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
yeah, you gotta stop putting that android on
instagram.
That's a tough one you'renoticing it.
Who can't?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
it's like a fucking calculator just posted but it's
just when I reshare the stories,though you noticed it.
I was trying to wonder if Inoticed it or not for real.
You can tell even just when Irepost the story sure, uh, that
one will test.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
But when you post with it, I'm like literally stop
forever okay, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I don't know what she's even talking about well,
we'll test it.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
We'll test it.
What?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
is she?
Is he talking about?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
It is a thing I think when you repost too, it is a
thing.
Yeah, when you repost my answerto Android for a second and I'm
like Lola, shut it down.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Wow, yeah, all right.
Well, that changes things, allright.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I know how to move.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
You know when you're in place.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, Plus, you know when you're in yeah, so you know
what.
You know when I'm on whichphone yeah, so I'm helping you
out of anything if you were toever, so you can tell when you
when you're slipping.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Put it that way you gotta keep it just on the
instant.
That's that's why I would havetwo phones one for social media,
the other for like texting,calling and just like not for
any other reasons, no, but ifyou want to just enjoy, like ios
and what are you enjoying?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
on Android.
Yeah, I mean, the Android'sactually really nice.
I heard Android's a great phoneand the phone we got it's like
a Samsung Z series 6 Flip.
It flips open.
That's cute.
I wish I had it here.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
We'll see that it's actually a cool phone.
I didn't want to bring my otherphone because I don't want to
be judged Now.
Look at it.
People were propping it andwatching shows on it.
They're doing their makeup.
I'm like that's cute, that'shard.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, samsung just sent Brian Wallach, a buddy of
mine who's playing basketballover in Spain the same thing he
just did a commercial with it.
I was like very old schoolstyle but new school vibe.
Yeah, especially at the sametime.
Yeah, it's wild.
Yoane asomoda mariam abdulrashid, thank you for coming on
the show.

(06:29):
Yo, this is 244 now.
Crazy, uh, we are in whitby notajax not scarborough whitby we
are specifically at the.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Ability Center.
We're trained all the time.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
You're here seven days a week, 24-7, 365.
Here at 6 am carrying hurdlesinto the gym.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm working on getting the apartment back there
turned into just mine.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'm so serious.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm like I would just move in there.
It's nice you just got to getthe water running and I would
move in.
I mean, if you're coming at 6am, I mean it's basically early
enough In this economy pocket.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
that might be the only time I get my own home.
Nah, they'd retweet.
It's tough.
They should just create a suitefor you, because you're just
here all the time.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
There's a suite already built.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Just get the water running and I'll be the way that
they recognized you when wewalked in.
They they clapped.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
You might as well have that place, they broke into
applause.
Yeah, yeah, they did, it was.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
They're nice people here.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I thought you were going to get like awarded some
key or something.
I was like damn, we should befilming this.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I just know I was with her, so I was good yeah
yeah, yeah, you're all righthere with me.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, marion's like just mention Dwayne and the.
Olympics and we'll be fine.
No like, seriously, this is coolPost-Olympics.
Obviously, you guys were bothin Paris, got to enjoy Europe,
everything that has to offer.
We have a lot that we werediscussing pre-starting to
record around food, bus trips,gear.

(07:59):
Where do we want to start?
There's going to be a lot oflaughs, I can tell already
during this episode.
Why don't we just start?
There's gonna be a lot oflaughs, I can tell already
during this episode.
Uh, why don't we just start offby giving the first kind of
thought that comes to mind whenyou think paris 2024 olympic
games?
If you guys could give a 30second like each of your own
kind of overview of the games Ithink I'll go first because I

(08:20):
got there first.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
So, um, damn, got in off the airport, I'm like, wow,
this is actually olympics,there's things prompt up and
then went from, uh, where wewere, to the village.
Got to the village, I'm justlike, well, this is like a
village, like an actual concept,where there's the town and like
there's street car, electriccars going around left and right
, there's people from differentcountries, people are some

(08:44):
wearing like either athleticwears and people are wearing
more of the relaxed gear andstuff like that.
Went into the place, saw thecardboard beds, saw my stuff and
I'm just like, okay, well, thisis how it was.
So I think that going in,seeing like how much was going
on and it was very colorful inthe village too, like that was
just very eye-opening toactually realize I'm in the
olympic village.
That was like the first moment,first games for eachopening.
To actually realize I'm inolympic village, that was like

(09:05):
the first moment first games foreach of you two surreal
experience, I'm assuming yeah,and cool that we got to do this
together yeah, for sure, wetalked about it yeah

Speaker 3 (09:14):
you guys were speed academy.
Is that where you originallymet?
Is that what you said?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
yeah, so I started grade nine you were there before
me yeah okay, when did you come?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I came to speak at me like beginning of grade 11 okay
, I feel like we were in thosetrenches together for yeah, but
I know when.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I think that was the first year we got in here yeah,
yeah, that was, that was myfirst year yeah, so yeah, this
building ability center openedwhen I was in grade nine and you
were in grade 11 yeah, I wasgoing to grade 11, yeah um, my
first impression of the village.
I would say that the best wayfor me to describe the village
would be like four years ofcollege packed into.

(09:51):
However, I was there for a weekand I still felt in the village
for a week like I just wentthrough four years of college,
like when it was over you mean,my roommate were like packing up
and you guys are emotional.
No, it was.
It was just so many emotions,like that was the thing I didn't
know.
I felt so many.
I felt like ready to leavebecause I wanted to just like

(10:13):
yeah all the sensory, like Ijust wanted to just chill for a
second I was going to a hoteland I was excited to have the
room to myself take like aproper shower.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know what I mean but was it not set up nice
therapy?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
it was set up nice there, but everything just felt
dorm style yeah there was, somerooms had less people, but there
was six of them, which one wereyou in, d13 or d3?
The one that was further 13, Ithink further away.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, I was in that one, so that one had three, four
rooms it had six people in yourroom.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
So you walk in apartment style and there's
three bedrooms with two peoplein each, so two, four, six.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I had eight, you had six, damn, I had eight.
I had four rooms in mine, fourrooms, two bathrooms.
Dang, I wanted those bathrooms.
Let me tell you All differentnations.
Yeah, so, no, no, no, these areall.
Yeah, so, no, no, no, these areall.
So.
We had a Canada building, soour Canada building was D13.
That was just Canadian.
That was where, like we had ourlounge area, d3 was split, like

(11:10):
75% was Canada, I think.
Another one part I can'tremember who was in the other
one.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I never.
I don't even remember seeingthe other country.
Yeah but we were six of us, soyou had three rooms, three rooms
and I thought that was the max.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
How many bathrooms did you have?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Two no.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Women.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
We had one full bathroom.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
You had the half bath .

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, so it was.
It was weird.
And then we have one where youcould just use the toilet, and
then we have one where you couldshower and wash your hands.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
You had one where you could just use the toilet yeah,
because I had two fulls, butthen you couldn't wash your
hands in it.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
You'd have to walk to one of the other ones to wash
your hands.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
But what do you mean?
So you have to go to the fullbathroom to wash your?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
hands the full complete.
And there's one, just a toilet.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Nothing in it, but a toilet.
How is it so?
It's just a toilet, just thetoilet.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
You can't wash your hands in that one.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's a tough answer .
I don't want to say anythingabout French people, but I'm
just saying.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Look, I would walk my ass to where I could wash my
hands.
Did you guys have like a handsanitizer in that which had the
shower and a hand wash?
So it was two bathrooms but itwas split up.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
So there was no toilet in the full one.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yo, let's get this back on track.
This was like two minutes ofbathrooms.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I'm just kidding, it's picture two fulls, two
fulls.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
But the toilet is inconvenient in one of them.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Anyways, I didn't even know I was going.
I was in d13, so yeah, so I, wehad four, we had four bedrooms,
she had three, yeah food,though I heard the food was
rough.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
You were talking about it yo, honestly, the food
was.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I actually was looking forward to the food
going into it because I feltlike I felt like you know we
world championships here before.
In budapest the food there wasactually pretty generic, world
relays, it wasn't pretty bad.
So a big village.
I heard in beijing they had amcdonald's in there.
So I'm like, okay, so I don'tthink there's gonna be
mcdonald's, but this was gonnabe good so would mcdonald's mean
the food is good, like you'rehype because most I don't want

(13:17):
to make it seem like I'munhealthy eating mcdonald's, but
I mean like you weren't gonnato be complaining.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Reliable, reliability is what you're getting.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
McDonald's is usually where you go when the food's so
bad that you have to go toMcDonald's.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Okay, fine, fair enough Not that McDonald's is
bad.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know what you're getting, which is why people are
like forget it, I'm going toMcDonald's.
Fair enough, the food, the foodis bad.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
So the food was split upu.
There was American, Was thereAmerican?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
No, there was like international, world, world,
world, asian.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
And then there was Asia, asia, asian or whatever.
So my thing was like, okay,when I first walked in I did
like eight laps and I'm justlike I don't know what I'm
supposed to do.
So when I first went into theworld, when I looked at that
there was pizza, all thisdifferent stuff.
I just different stuff.
I just grabbed pizza, fries,generic stuff, as like the

(14:08):
second day I was there two,three days in, they said don't
go to france.
And I'm like what's going on?
The reason for not going tofrance was that their, their
meat wasn't cooked all the waythrough and apparently like that
was like a french tradition,like that was like a native
thing.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
So did people actually get sick off of that?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I don't think people got sick off of it, because I
don't even think people aregoing.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I think people just see like, especially at the
games, if something's like off,they'd rather you just not mess
with it, especially since canada, going into paris, already had
so much sickness on the teamyeah, did you like how was spain
, like, did you get sick at all?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
no, but so what happened?
Why is that everyonepre-competition wrangling?
Because montreal everyone wasfine.
Yeah, that was a couple weeksbefore we went.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
So barcelona we go, because it's our training camp
before.
So we went in waves and therewas one big wave with most of
the team and everyone on thatcrew was the one that was
subjected to like getting sickyeah the most so that something
happened on with that crew.
They probably caught on theplane or there was one person,
whoever.
I don't know.
We still don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Brought it to Barcelona.
So I came like four days laterknowing that the team was
dropping like flies and theykept dropping.
There was periods where we werelike chill, but it was like a
stomach bug.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, like they said, like Dr Patty, like that's the
team doctor we have, it was likesome gastroc something.
I don't even know, I'm not evena doctor, but apparently Dr
Asimodo.
I mean yo.
If I was, I can go by DrAsimodo though.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
I was going to bring it up at some point.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Okay, wait, stop what okay, we'll bring it up later,
but anyways, um so perfect,segue into it but that's okay.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
No, no, no, that's good, okay, fine but yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
So basically, um, I I think it was the food.
I think that it was just likethere was a whole bunch of stuff
out there that I don't thinkanyone had any business trying.
In my opinion, maybe this is mebeing a picky eater, but I
think it was certain foodbecause I think, like we're all
around each other together, Ifeel like there's no reason why
I didn't get sick, or like myroommate didn't get sick.
I know some people didn't getsick, but I feel like the people

(16:08):
who did get sick were the oneswho were eating all the food or
trying different types of food.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
That's my opinion I'm trying to think.
I think I like.
I showed up already knowingthere was something, so I showed
up and kept my mask on thewhole time had to like sanitize
all the time because I alreadyknew going in, I feel like there
was that window where no oneknew that there was sickness
among us so it spread likereally fast but I didn't know it

(16:33):
was from.
I didn't know if it was fromthe food or just like people
kind of forget, there's justlike general cool health yeah
like that's just like yeah, butlike you don't.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
But you don't see, even like before you don't see
like a whole team getting sicklike you had lauren, you had zoe
, you had erin get sick.
Like so many people went downmorales got sick, like almost
like a lot of people on the teamwho went in the first wave of
it were like actually got gotsick from this and it was like
progressive too like yeah, andthere was a yeah block wherever

(17:01):
we were, like, okay, we're safe.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
And then I went into the village four days before my
race.
My race is like the second,like one of the last things of
the whole olympic games.
My point is I'm at the very endand me and the other hurdler so
she's at the very end.
She got sick right before goinginto paris, so like even when
we thought it was over amongstcanada, like it just like wasn't

(17:24):
.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, so it just sucks because it affects your
performance yeah, let's talkabout those performances before
we get to dr asimoda.
Let's, uh, let's, let's hearabout that.
Like, obviously it's.
You know, four years betweenolympic games, but this is
decades worth of work that wentinto this.
You and I chattedatted what wasit back in February.
Yeah, you didn't know whetheryou were even going to be

(17:47):
representing Canada at thatpoint.
We kind of had a hunch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had a goodhunch, but both of you able to
put on that Canadian flag,represent the country.
Can you share what it was like?
Dwayne, we're going to startwith you because you're the the
new guest on the pod.
I'm the new guy over here.
The new guy, yeah, butobviously that heat number four

(18:09):
that you were in 100 meters, acouple studs to your left and
right.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, I know, tough, tough start a for your olympic
career honestly, the crazy thingis is that I really felt like I
actually like it was cool, likeI had it the night before.
I actually asked to see theheat sheet, and I don't even ask
to see it on a regular basis,but I wanted to get ready.
I saw the heat sheet.
You know there was a lot ofthere's some 99 guys in there.
There's some guys who I knowwho are great, but I felt like I
was in prime position.

(18:32):
The way the race actually wentwas different than the way the
race I thought it was gonna goand like within like the first
couple meters coming out, like Ialready stumbled and from that
point alone I'm like, ok, I'mout of this.
But then obviously the race isstill going on, it's still
unfolding and I'm trying tobring myself back in the race
and I'm not running anythingclose to what I usually run
cross line 10, 17.
So for me I was just like whoa,this happens fast.

(18:55):
Like when these stuff comearound, you have to like you
have to be on it.
Like, like you have to be on it.
Like I have a lot of raceswhere, like I'm kind of like
here and there, but like thoseraces, you really just have to
be ready when the gun goes.
You have to be ready to respondto every single thing that goes
on out there and be focused.
So I mean, it wasn't my bestperformance out there, but it's
good to know like how that's howit's like, because all the

(19:15):
meets I've been to I've been tomeet her guys have ran 99.
I've ran 99 windy myself, right.
So it's like just being knowingwhat that stage is like.
Lets me know.
Okay, boom.
So preparation you can't haveany mental lags or lapses, like
you just have to be able to beregular muscle memory.
So that's how it was.
And definitely, you know, goinginto it was tough.
Like I had an mri going intothe olympics on.

(19:36):
Like we left on like thetuesday, I think I had mri on
the monday and, um, like therewas a bunch of stuff going on
outside external.
But as for the performanceitself, like it was a great
experience.
I left it all out there, but itdefinitely like wasn't great,
like not like Miriam, miriam ranwell, like you know what I'm
trying to say.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
So but yeah, At least you looked good physically
right.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I mean, I think that's really the only thing
that track gives you.
You know you're going to lookgood physically.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Honestly, yeah, that's the most you can do for
yourself If all else goes wronglike I didn't look whack out
there, I didn't look terrible.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, physique was right.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, now you got that riz coming in.
Your DMs flooded, or what?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
No comment, no comment, no comment.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Only on.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Oh, we're not.
We're not doing that.
You know either way how muchphones you have is.
Instagram is one app.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, but the upload quality is different.
That we've established.
Okay, Miriam, since Dwayne justmentioned the fact that I saw
your face there, you weren'tthrilled, you were a little.
Still some unfinished business,but I'll let you describe.
We've chatted about it.
I'll let you share kind of howyou're feeling the still some
unfinished business, but I'lllet you describe.
We've chatted about it.
I'll let you share kind of howyou're feeling the emotions that
went into that.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I think unfinished, and don't be hard on yourself,
yeah, because I'm here.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
We've already established that.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
I think unfinished business is a good way to
describe exactly how I wasfeeling when I crossed the
finish line.
Exactly how I was feeling whenI crossed the finish line, I
went into the Olympics and it'slike on paper, like in Canadian
running magazine, me being likethese are my goals and I didn't
get them.
I wanted to get the Canadianrecord In the spectrum of like

(21:20):
most to most, least to mostimportant personal canadian
record, make the final, get amedal.
And I got a personal best.
But I didn't make the final andI didn't get the other things
in there and I just knew thatonce you get in a final, I'm
just a competitor.
So I just wanted to be in asmany races as possible, I just

(21:41):
wanted.
I felt like I was just like you, dwayne, like I felt like.
I belonged there yeah and Istill think that which is why I
just feel like it was unfinishedbusiness and I ran a personal
best in that semi-finals, which,yes, I am happy about, but also
that's the part that hurts,that, like my best, still didn't
make the final, so there'sabsolutely unfinished business

(22:03):
like, honestly, I look at itdifferently.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think that, like, like her event, it's so, it's
like it's like the hundred ishard, it's deep, but it's not as
deep as her event the hurdlesare super deep, I feel like.
I feel like just being in, likethe top 24 in the world, or just
finishing within the semifinals, like that the margins are so
small, like that's what everyonethe world.
Or just finishing within thesemifinals, like that the
margins are so small, likethat's what everyone's running

(22:25):
and because of hurdles, theraces are so different, even the
people at the top they don'teven win consistently, like you
have Masai, who changes handswith Jazz sometimes, who changed
hands with Toby, who changedhands with um, the girl from
Paris, um, which which helped,like all the races.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
So we had our Olympic champion, Masai.
All the races after that I sawdifferent people were winning
each one.
None of them were Masai, whichkind of helped me realize, yes,
but I didn't expect.
I think I just expect to be inthat mix of people who could be
winning and I wasn't in thefinal, so I'm not in that mix.

(23:02):
Maybe next time cards more in myfavor, clean up the things,
whatever.
Um, but yeah, it does stillfeel like unfinished business
for this one, but I am proud ofthe fact that I went to the
games and I performed underpressure or whatever.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, performed on demand.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
That's it Our coach always says it's not what I did.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
It's not what I did at all.
Yeah, no, it was.
It is super deep.
I can confirm that because foran hour we were watching all the
heats going through at 3 am outin british columbia thanks for
making that, and we're like man.
When is miriam running?
But to your point, millisecondsbetween the first place and the
30th place.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, this is the fastest period of women's
hurdles, like ever, yeah, andthe fact that I think she's in
the mix, like that says a lot.
Because, like I think you haveto take it in totality.
I look at things in, not likein a super scope, in a vacuum.
I look at things from a broadsense, like this is a four-year
thing.
Where was Miriam four years ago?
Like she wasn't making anyworld teams, she hadn't made a

(24:06):
senior team, right.
So then you go now flashback,and now you're in the Olympics
this year, even 2022, because wehad Michelle Harrison in the
semis, right.
That means Katie and her teamwas still doing well, but now
Miriam was still not there atthe time, right?
Like she was still coming intoher own at the time.
So I think to go from that.
Then now you look at a two-yearsession, olympic semi-final and
she's running 12.6.

(24:26):
Now you look at it like okay,these are big jumps being made.
So I just don't see how it'slike.
I think it's just a motivatingtool.
I think even the fact that Iagree I think, even like the
fact that, like being close toolympic final four hurdles for
the 100 meter hurdles, likethat's nuts, like, like, what
would you finish?
What was it?
11th, 11th?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
hey I still gotta tell me, man, I'm a, I know I
think it's sick and I am proudof myself and I I am super proud
of, like the progress over thepast couple years, um, because a
lot of people didn't expect meto do it but I think the thing
that people are like yo be proudof yourself.
Your college coach told you, Iknow I know, I know and I

(25:10):
debunked that, but I think thefact that I've always seen
myself as the person in thefinals is why I'm a little bit
more upset than everybody else.
I can still, still appreciateit, but I never said Mariam,
you're going to the Olympics,you're a semifinalist.
Yeah, okay Still super happy,but I always pictured myself
with metal around my neck fromday one, which is a blessing and

(25:33):
a curse, and immediate reaction.
Off the track the curse partcame out where it's just
straight competitor.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
It's because you're a dog yo, I'm a dog, like, I'm
super nice and all that people?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I don't think people.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I don't think people know mariam's a dog when it
comes down to this, thecompetitive stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
She's a dog, she is.
There's certain people thatpossess that sixth gear that
only a very few have, and it isa blessing and a curse because
you're you're to have that foryour entire life.
Finley Knox, who we justreleased the episode with today,
he talks about it.
He's like, as a kid, you're setwith that and it doesn't matter

(26:11):
whether you're 3, 13, or 33.
You're playing rec soccer, rechockey, or on the Olympic stage
you want to win.
Oh, always Right.
And you can tell when you'reracing.
And even if you were so closethere too, and I saw, I was like
, ah, I was just going throughthe fields can I say it behind
the scenes too.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Also, I was even more cheese when I did the interview
.
It's because I crossed thefinish line in the semi-finals.
I saw the scoreboard and waslike you didn't make it and
there's that feeling like you.
You said it happened superquick.
We were like, wow, I'm done now.
So I'm like having that momentand a lady with a walkie talkie
comes over and she says I thinkyou might be into the finals.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Wow, that's the worst .

Speaker 2 (26:55):
And I was like what do you mean?
And she was like who?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
is this woman, by the way?
No, literally.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I just want to chat because she's doing her job.
But she was like I thinkthere's some DQs in your race
and there's ways to get.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I wish I found that lady after my race.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
She was like I think there's some DQs because there's
ways to go over the hurdlesimproperly.
So it's very obvious thatpeople DQ if people fall or run
out of their lanes.
But I don't think there wasonly one fall, so I was like
okay, it wasn't her.
Like what else happened?
So she made it seem like therewas two people who could be
dequeued and two more peoplewould have.
You know, I think I was thethird man out.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
So if my math's right , I I would have been in, or at
least been closer, whatever likeyou, that glimmer of hope and
there was still another heatafter me.
So for like 12 minutes I'm onthe track thinking maybe I'm in
and I'm like yeah, and then allof a sudden she goes you can go,
I'm like you, I can go likeit's a privilege did you sit on

(28:00):
the the chair, the waiting chairno, I'm standing just on the
track because it's happeninglike live.
They didn't want to put me inthe waiting room because I don't
know, they were just figuringit out on the fly.
And then she goes.
Oh yeah, you can go.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
The fact that the fact that they had the athletes
doing like post event debriefsliterally seconds after you know
, that was my problem as, like,I'm not even sitting there, I'm
not even the person competing,but I know that I am in no shape
to be on nationally televisedinternational yeah, yeah, I know

(28:34):
, I said cbc whatever no, Idon't, I'm just saying yeah I'm
not in a position to be globallybroadcasted after just losing
what I spent arguably my entirelife competing for.
Yeah, and I just thought thatwas a miss.
I think that the Olympic Gamescould maybe go a day after, once
people have had a bit of timeto wrap their heads around what
just happened.
But it's like hey, miriam, Iknow you just finished not as

(28:57):
well as you would have liked,but can you tell us how you
really feel about that race?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, and I'm just like trying not to swear on the
mic.
Yeah, yeah, that's how I fellafter the hundred.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I looked so angry because, yes, I was angry, but I
was also like, don't cry don'tcry, don't cry don't cry yeah
just of all, like the emotionsbecause I feel like they can do
the interview when you like getyour stuff through the mix zone
because like, basically you goup, you race, um, like I went in
the.
I went in like the weight thingwe have to see on the, on the,
the couch thing, whatever.
Then you go do your interviewand then after that you there's

(29:28):
like another media zone and thenyou put on your stuff and then
like there's lots and there'sinterviews all the way along the
way.
It's like a huge underground andanyone can stop you from like
anything like when you go up tothe stadium and the stands
you're walking people.
Anyone can stop you oninterview with you from any
federation or whatever they'relike.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
You're just like it's like you're open like wide open
, I would stop for you.
But each one I gotprogressively less hostile and I
was like, yeah, I just neededlike a second.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, you just had the most important race of your
life and it didn't go the wayyou planned.
Yeah, but yeah, tell me how youfeel, miriam.
Give me everything you'resupposed to give after you know
10 years of wrapping your headaround what you've just put into
this.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Give me everything in a 20 second bite-size clip yeah
, and that's the part peopledon't practice, but you actually
should, because yeah, that'spart of your, our job yeah, how
do you?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
I see, I would not like, because you can't prepare
to fail you can't, you can't,you can just prepare to
interview, maybe when you fail.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I think the only thing I would do differently is
I only needed like 15 moreseconds, I think yeah just to
not look that angry.
Just even a couple breaths.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Honestly, there's a quarter there to be like, hey,
you want to take it.
I talked to him.
He was like what can I was likedo uh yeah and I was like what
can?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
he was like what can I do next time, which is really
nice, and I was like just remindme to give myself a second,
because I was like let's go,let's do it now yeah, just want
to get over with.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, no, honestly, which is a shame because it's
your opportunity to speak to theworld too, right and now, for
the next four years, you get tolook at that interview and be
like man.
I looked pissed off.
I I'm gonna beat myself evenmore up because of the interview
that I gave and like that's notgood right, so I just I.
I personally was like I feel badfor those athletes because it's

(31:20):
just 14 straight days ofeveryone who didn't win going
that post-game interview, beinglike I don't want to be here but
I have to answer this questionto the audience, and it's not
even like we're making millionsof dollars where you'll just
catch the fine and it's likekind of drama for the next game.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
The fine is uh, it's very, that's a problem.
The fine is the problem.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
The fine's the issue what was, uh, what was the like
eye-opening moment for you?
Was there a piece that once yourealized like for you being
able to get to the semi-finalsobviously larger scale, having
your family there was probably Ican't even imagine what that
was like.

(31:59):
But land in paris, were therejitters?
Were you nervous about theexperience?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Man, yeah, I was trying to lie to myself.
I said I wasn't, I was tryingto play it super cool, but I was
definitely.
I was so nervous.
And I was more nervous becauseI didn't have my coach there.
So even just like when you gotto Paris, yeah, when I got to
Paris I didn't have my coachthere my coach didn't come to
like the after I ran, like shegot in the same time, probably
after I ran.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
So his coach is the national team sprint coach, so
he was still in barcelonatraining the other athletes that
he's like, contractuallysupposed to be, but also duane
is racing, so it's kind of likeyeah, which one of?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
my kids do I, he had it was tough because of my coach
.
He's a relay coach, like he'sthe four by one women's relay
coach, and you know we spliteverything up in waves so they
didn't come until later on but Iwas in the first wave so they
couldn't split the coachingsituation up for that.
He could be able to come withme and there would be athletes
be able to take care of back inbarcelona holding.

(33:00):
So I just kind of had to figureout things on my own.
So it was challenging gettingin.
So that kind of added to thejitters a bit.
You want to make sure thatyou're prepared, because I've
went to meets and performed well, like in the States and other
places, but it just hasn't beenthe Olympic Games.
So it's a little bit differentto prepare and like pre-meet and
you know, even when you'reright to go out to know that
everything's in check, like youhave that last bit of confidence

(33:23):
to start work with on aneveryday basis.
So that made it a little bitlike stressful a little bit.
I just did the best I could andthat's why right now I'm not
trying to beat myself up aboutit because of that it just it's
a big, it makes.
Yeah, because at the end of theday, like you know, that's who I
work with every single morningwhen I go to the track.
That's who I see whether I'mhitting missing angles, cues,

(33:45):
whatever that person had me inline.
So supplementing that foranother AC coach is not that
it's not the worst thing in theworld, but it's someone who
doesn't know me, how I run andcertain stuff like that.
So if they think I'm doingsomething that's I don't know,
they feel like it's wrong.
It's different viewpoints onhow to coach and he has to also
know how it works.
So those stuff made itchallenging going in.
But other than that, I thinkthat like it was just really

(34:07):
surreal to be at the olympicslike you're like yo I'm at the
olympics, like I'm about to runI'm not gonna lie in the morning
I actually cried the morning ofmy race.
Like I actually cried, like I'mnot gonna lie, I called my
coach I don't even know.
It was like, it was weird, Likeyou know.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I look good.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Oh my gosh, my physical appearance, oh my gosh.
Nah, I think it was just like.
It was like overwhelming.
I'm like this rush of emotion.
I'm like yo, I'm about to be onthe Olympic stage.
I worked for all this.
I'm just like yo breaking downand it's like you know, thanks

(34:44):
for all, like you know helpingme and you know all this
different stuff.
Like it was just a rush ofemotion because, like I didn't
even know I was going toexperience that.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, mine was after.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Oh, yours was after.
What was the?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
no, I just like.
For me it's like I'm just like,I have my punching and punching
up moments, so it's just likeit's a choice.
So when I choose a punch andit's like, okay, this is over,
now it's time to be on the clock, so it's showtime it was cool.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
You let yourself feel that though yeah, like I don't
think that would have.
I don't believe in suppressingyour like I would have
suppressed that.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, absolutely I can't, I gotta yeah yeah, no,
yeah but, that's to your pointyou probably were better off by
just experiencing it yeah, likeI didn't even expect it, like
just I know I'm not even a crier, I don't cry like that, like
I'm not a big crier, but it'sjust like you realize this is
like everything you've workedfor, like everything you've

(35:38):
wanted, like when you're in thebase season and you're just like
man, like even when you askedmarion back in February, you
make the Olympics.
It's like you know you thinkyou're going to make it.
People tell you're going tomake it, but you still you're
there and it's race day and likethe whole world, your families
watching, people you know aretuning in, and it's like all
that coming to place.
It's like a dream come true ina sense, like like you know, I
mean.
So it's more of like thoseemotions kind of hit me all at

(36:00):
once did you think you're gonnamake the olympics at ohio state?

Speaker 2 (36:03):
no at ohio state no I wasn't even sure you're gonna
keep running the track, see whatI'm saying, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
I didn't think I was going to I didn't I?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
sometimes I look at our old group pictures of our
high school team and you can seelike there's only three of us
left yeah, and I don't know.
I don't know, like I don't know, if I would have picked you as
the one not talent wise justbecause, like you, never really
know who wants it, because Iwasn't serious, it's okay, she's
actually being nice.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I like this.
I like this.
I like this because you know,even before, she'd tell me like,
oh, you're not showing up topractice, so I like this.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like show up on time, whatever.
But yeah, like it's cool.
It's just cool like getting to.
I'm like it's just us, Likewhat was that their podcast
where they're like funny seeingyou here, or whatever they said,
that's how it feels.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
No, but at Ohio State , like I think I was even the
best on the team, I came in as atransfer in 2017.
I was running like sevens inthe 60s 10.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Sorry, no, get it out , get it out.
You want to know what 7-0,7-what you want to know.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I just I think, I know that it's like 7-high.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Okay, 7-0 something.
Anyway, I wasn't running well.
So you know, my last year I'mjust like you know what?
This is your last year.
Just take it serious, you know,know, see what you can do.
And then I like ran 10, 22.
So then it's like, okay, well,people in Canada run around this
time and make teams, so let mejust hang around and see what
can happen.
And then COVID happened afterlike almost I was done school.

(37:31):
And then I'm like, well, youknow, I put in so much work,
let's just see what it's like.
Meanwhile my parents are likeyou need to work a nine to five,
you're 25 years old, you needto start being serious about
your life, because my parentsare Nigerian so they don't play
around when it comes down to thenext step of life.
But no, I just kept the faith.
Honestly, I'm just veryoverconfident.
Honestly, I really don't thinka lot of people are better than

(37:52):
me.
So I just think that if Ireally put my mind to it, that I
could get it done.
But that didn't come untillater how, what, what changed?
um, I think what changed was I'mlike you know what I'm losing
to people.
I'm not even really putting100% in my training, but they
are.
So I said, if I put 100% in mytraining, I'll be able to beat
them.
And that's what started tohappen.
I proved myself right.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I read it.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Both of you got that dog.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
No, I'm trying to say something about me, I'm like
you got it too yeah I see themthe most distance is different
distance is in there.
Yeah, you're in your distancepeople.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
I know people.
They talk, they talk, they go,they like they try talking this
distance.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, oh yeah they know each other really well,
like they know what the otherguy is doing, which, like
sometimes, sprinters are soobsessed with themselves yeah
it's so much ego, ego, ego.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
But the distance, like they know, yeah because you
got it four hours to watch theother guy run beside you.
You're like I know what this is, yeah like yo, he's split to 3k
on a tempo, but I would bepissed, though.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
If I was the distance and, like I know, a guy was
just gonna be on my hip thewhole entire time, the last
hundred just gonna beat me likethat would piss me off.
That's tough.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Don't let him do it yeah, you gotta get your own.
No, I'm gonna be on his I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
See, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I'm not for distance, I can't do that, I kind of like
the story that happens indistance, like that's sick yeah
you're literally watching thislike a story unfold that woman,
uh, that won, like all threedistance events I can't remember
her fondness on yeah she's.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
That's insane yeah, that's nuts.
It was like 5, 10k and marathonA lot of running boy.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, that one's messed up Any two weeks.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Right.
How is that?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
possible, it's nasty work.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
It's crazy.
Yeah, she's got that dog forsure.
She's got the biggest dog.
The biggest dog, for sure.
No, I am in my distance areahere I got a marathon in three
weeks.
Three.
I did the half marathon.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
You nervous, no man, you don't get nervous a marathon
run well, I probably will,don't get me wrong why do you
get nervous so long though?
That shit hurts, but you have along time to.
Okay, you're sprinting.
I'm I'm nervous because yo Iblink once I make a misstep.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
This thing is over, yeah but I think I get nervous
for the pain of it.
I don't get nervous when I dothe whole, so do you get nervous
with pain?

Speaker 3 (40:16):
uh, yeah, it doesn't feel good, I'm I, it's not even
a nerves I, so I reference thisnate zinser book.
It's called the confident mindand I've like pretty much
brought it up every podcastsince, but since I read that
book I'm like I'm pretty sure Icould do whatever the heck I put
my mind to you know, is it inyour car?
Uh, no, but I'll send it to you.
Is that an audible?

(40:36):
Yeah, that's what I listened tooh, audibles are nice I
listened to it.
After montreal, montreal, thecalgary and then calgary so that
was like and it was it's thebest so far that I've read and
just like something clicked, I'mlike I can do this.
I had a spartan race that I didthat was like five hours long
half marathon.
A half marathon, five hoursdude.
It was up and down big whitemarathon like up and down big

(41:01):
white mountain.
Sorry for a spartan race, itwas five hours long and it was
like negative one or two degreesraining.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
This is for fun.
It wasn't fun.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
It was not fun, but I didn't enjoy it.
But it was that moment I waslike I can do these kind of
physical things.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, no, okay, that makes sense, yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Whether it's 510, 1525k, 50k for all that is, you
can do it.
It's not a matter of how long.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
This is nuts.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
You can't do it, but you can finish it right.
Yeah, you're capable of doing alot more.
Yeah, yeah, are you like, howare you going into the marathon?
Are you like allowed to walk?
Or it's like, what's your goal?
I'm just going sub four hours.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
So I'm not a crazy like fast runner by any stretch.
I was never considered a runnergrowing up, so just the fact
that I'm doing, it I'm proud ofthat's good.
Sub four hours.
It's like a 530, 540 pace, Ibelieve, per kilometer.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
So, however, you get there, as long as you get up
four.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, and I would run at a five-minute kilometer pace
right now for shorter distances, so I'm like I'll be fine, I
can do that, but actually doinga full length is a long time
because it's four hours at asteady speed.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
So what do you think about?
I throw in Shibuzy oh so youlisten to music during the whole
entire time.
I've been, yeah, so you have afour-hour playlist.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
No, I just listen to whatever comes on man.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Oh, you shuffle it, I have a playlist.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Quinn's like dude, you got to get a playlist.
You got to get your AirPods.
Oh, ctfl guy or something.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Oh, he made a new Instagram.
You know, Quinn's in my fantasyfootball league.
Quinn's legit.
I won't talk about how he'sdoing, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
The track community is really cool actually, you
guys are tight-knit.
Thanks, montreal was sick.
That was my first kind of.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Coming from hockey, I weren't sure if you were going
to like us.
Because hockey it feels like abrotherhood, very jokey, jokey
fun fun.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Wasn't sure how you were going to think about
there's a lot of drama.
Just because I have a long hairdoesn't mean I'm a hockey guy,
aren't you a hockey?

Speaker 1 (42:58):
guy.
Yeah, I play hockey, but like II've been, he looks like a
hockey guy.
What do you mean if I put himon like something and said like
the first thing you said to mewas nice flow, so you're not
beating the allegations.
He looks like a hockey guy.
He's the new, any hockey guy.
I look like I can referencesome appearance.
That's the hockeyist guy I meetall the time.
It's like the short beard withthe long hair, or it's like the
long beard with a little bit ofthe shorter hair.

(43:20):
It's two of the things, becausethe hair has to stay like that,
because of the helmet.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I'm a goalie, though, so I wanted to be a goalie so
bad.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Really.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
I wasn't allowed.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I was already very much deep into track.
My parents were like that lookslike it's going to mess up your
hips.
Also, it was super expensive.
Yeah, definitely, and I wasplaying soccer rep soccer at the
time too, so like you need tochill.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
What other sports do you guys play Yo?
So I play basketball.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I'm actually supposed to be in the NBA right now
Point guard?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, okay, no, I'm just saying, you know, I
actually played basketball allfour years of high school.
I played AAU Like I didn'tstart playing basketball, I mean
.
So I didn't start running trackuntil the 10th grade.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
When you broke your foot.
I broke my ankle playingbasketball in grade 10.
I forgot about that.
Yes, I did.
That's your track record.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
No, sorry, that was grade 11.
Yeah, tony was not too happyabout that.
So, grade 11, I'm at abasketball tournament.
We're supposed to be going todo Bounce National, which is the
biggest meet of the indoor meet.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
For high school kids.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
For high school kids of the year.
I have a game on Sunday.
Ankle called coach on mondaytold him I can't come, that I
didn't run for the rest of theyear.
But outside of basketball Iplayed soccer all throughout
growing up, so those are likethe two sports I actually played
.
But I can play any sport thoughany sport come play tennis with

(44:42):
me that's my new thing.
No, you already have someone toplay tennis with I said we're
starting a league.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
There's gonna be money there's gonna be a draft
ctfl.
Oh, draft ctfl, I'm down.
Yeah, uh, now I I always liketo bring up, like past, sports
that people have played, becauseobviously playing soccer,
playing insert, any other sportis going to give you different
skill sets that are going tohelp you succeed in life, and I.

(45:09):
It's just rare to find peoplewho only specialize in one thing
now that are at the top Ialways I shouldn't say there's
always exceptions to every rule,but for the most part it's
people who are playing multiplethings growing up that end up
specializing afterwards into oneyeah, I feel like track's like
not a sport that you can.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Personally I don't think you could do it your whole
life.
I just think it burns out yourbody.
Like if you do track from whenyou're very, very young,
depending on how you're trained,you can start lifting way too
early.
You can start overtraining toohard early.
It's better to just do othersports, let your body adjust to
itself.
Soccer, you learn how tobalance certain skills, changing
direction or even just speedingup, and basketball,

(45:48):
explosiveness, plyo, differentstuff.
Every sport has something tooffer.
Then, when you kind of let yourbody mature, is running track.
That's why you see a lot ofpeople who are good at track are
late bloomers, like andrestarted late, I started late.
Miriam's an anomaly becauseshe's just been going forever.
But also, too, she changedevents.
You know she used to do 400hurdles and now she's 100
hurdles.
So it just shows you that it'sjust something that I feel like

(46:09):
it's not a child prodigy thinglike tennis or something like
that.
I don't know what do you.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, that's it, harry, uh, sorry.
Uh, jerome said last week onlast week's episode, he's like.
Because he's said he's like man, I'm only a couple years into
this training properly he's likeI've been I haven't been
lifting as long as all theseother guys and I know maybe
that's what everyone's sayingbut I think there's a testament
to the fact that, being a latebloomer, letting your body
develop, figuring out whereyou're actually going to be

(46:34):
suited, best suited, maybe it's100 instead of 400 meter hurdles
, right.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, thankfully that's a grind 400 meter.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
100 meter hurdles is enough.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
But even so, like she's almost damn near been
world class at two events like400 meter hurdles as a junior,
if you had asked me, yeah,junior, if you had asked me yeah
, if you had asked me a coupleyears ago what's your money?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
event 400 meter hurdles all the way really, then
if you'd asked me right beforeI started the four hurdles.
I would have said 400 yeah Idid a bit of every.
Yeah, it was a 400.
That new balance, not just whatyou're talking about yeah 400.
I was running the fours butthen, like I would in the grade
nine section, I won the 60 andthe 400.
Like that's just like weirdyeah but then what was cool, dog

(47:16):
?
what was cool then became like a, a flaw, almost, because then I
felt like I in college, I feltlike I just didn't know what my
main thing was so I was justtraining kind of whack
especially, I think, with four.
It was tough because it's notindoors it's not indoors and I
just felt like I couldn't.
The 400 and the 400 hurdles gotreally fast, so I felt like I

(47:39):
had all the endurance.
That wasn't really as much ofan asset anymore.
I don't know, I just had to.
When I left the four hurdlesand started the 100 hurdles in
like 2020 or whatever, I had tocompletely like.
My body has completely changedin terms of like just the energy
has your dms changed too?
Has the dms changed?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
since your body has changed, has the dms changed?
I?

Speaker 2 (48:01):
don't know.
I can't keep up with my dmsright now okay try my best to
reply to everyone oh, so youdon't even reply.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
So if you reply, yo 11th in the world 11th in the
world so like okay, how has yourdms changed since olympics?

Speaker 2 (48:15):
it's honestly all the I've gotten like so much
positivity in general like Ijust got so much love.
I know you're trying to avoidin terms of like people trying
to slide like that's the stuffpeople want, olympian.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Like how does that change?
Like how did that?
Like when you let's talk?

Speaker 3 (48:30):
about like there were some canadian athletes who do
have uh only fan pages that arepromising, yeah, um yeah, good
for them.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
They're gonna get paid now, exactly I don't brings
up a good topic.
I don't I don't think peoplehave been trying to slide extra
on me since the olympics she'slying no, I swear she's lying
I've had some people that arelike one person specifically.
That is kind of like why you'relike being like, why aren't you
replying to me?
That's just one person beinglike doing way too much so.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
No one swipes up and says hard eyes anything not any
more than before.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
I don't think it didn't change.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
So, like your DMs after you crossed the line in
the semifinals.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
They blew up with a lot of like oh.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I'm not going to think of what's in the requests.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I was just going to say yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Do you think like guys are intimidated because
you're doing so well?
I think that might be it Like.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I feel like this year I haven't really got that much
people sliding like that.
I got a lot of people comingout of the woodworks being like,
wow, so proud of you,da-da-da-da-da, not who I
haven't talked to in forever.
Maybe those are the beginningsof people trying to sly, but not
as many, I don't think.
Being like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
So then, what's your most surprising follow that
you've gotten since the games?
Who followed you and you'relike this person followed me.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Like well, who was that for you?
Well, perdido started followingme, okay, so like the person
that made me.
Want to be a hunter hurdlercanadian icon she yeah, she like
knows I exist, which is kind ofshe was shouting you out on the
game.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
No like celebrity follows you got a picture with
that italian guy?
No, I actually got.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
So I'm into like the real housewives.
I'm not into it, but likethere's real housewives of lagos
okay, because my parents arenigerian, so like I like all the
stuff, so two of the housewivesfollowed me, so like yeah, so
you're doing better than me.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, he was like okay, who followed you?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
because I want to know.
No, I want you to ask, no, nobecause I know it's dj mz.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
She's trying to play it like it's modest.
I already know how the DMs gofor her.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Look I do have some great people from out of the
woodworks in the requests, but Idon't know if it's from the
Olympics specifically.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Honestly, with the conversation we had earlier
about this tennis thing, I'mjudging her eye for certain
things.
I'm really judging my eye.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I'm trying to tell you that I don't think they're
that much crazier since theolympics of guys trying to slide
.
I think it's just you have ablue check now, people trying to
have a blue check yeah, I, I'velearned that.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
uh, going out being nice, congratulating, taking
taking the conservative approachis what Mariam appreciates,
based on this you think so?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I think that stuff's going to just it's great friend
stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I think, yeah, I think, I think my DMs are always
got some people trying to slide.
I just don't know if it's gonecrazy since the I mean the mills
out there.
Every mill knows I have not, Ican't, I haven't even opened
them all yet it's a bunch yeahyeah, I'm just trying to reply
to my friends first yeah, it'snot yeah that's a tough problem.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yeah, yeah, I wish I had that issue.
Uh yo, happy belated birthday,by the way.
Thank you, yo.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Happy belated birthday, by the way.
Thank you, virgo gang, virgogang, we're both Virgos.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
You said 26 was your best year yet and you have no
doubt 27 is going to be evenbetter.
Yeah, is that what you said?
Yeah, is that verbatim Quote.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, I would say so, Definitely 26,.
Best year yet, for sure.
I don't see why 27 wouldn't beany better.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Because best year yet for sure.
I don't see why 27 wouldn't beany better.
Because 26?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I mean there's years that like remember everyone
keeps talking about what 2016was the best year ever.
Yeah, I think 27 will.
Just, I'll get all the rewardsfrom the work that it took to
get 2026, like I made the team.
And now I just feel like I'mgonna get this.
All all those brand deals, thesponsorships, the easy, just the
ease.
You know, like we were grinding, like everything was a grind.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
And, like now, I just feel like I'm just going to
just float a little bit morejust relax a little bit more.
So work hard on the track andall that good stuff, but like
just like you don't have to like, doors will open for your life
anymore.
Yeah, yeah, I'm fighting for mylife.

(52:57):
Yeah, that's how you got thatkeynote swagger now.
Yeah, yeah, I did a keynotespeech on my birthday, you know,
you get speaker and stuff likethat's a guest speaker, got a
standing ovation, yeah.
Yeah, that was nice and I justtold my story and like people
want to know you.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
For you, yeah, I don't even want you to like.
You don't have to spice thingsup anymore.
Your life is alreadyinteresting.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, it was a roller coaster and it's just Like now.
Y'all know so if I knock, ory'all, Don't play with me, you
know Like just open the door.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Or she's kicking it down, kicking down the door.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Because I think I was listening back to our last
episode and I feel like I didn'thit on that Texas time for you
enough and maybe kind of theseasons that we were talking
about there, because you know,26 was great, 23 maybe wasn't as
good and 21 maybe had its upsand downs like were there

(53:42):
moments that you look back on,you're like, ah, that was a
piece that allowed me to stayconsistent, stay motivated, stay
disciplined, the things thatboth of you kind of reflect back
on as Olympians.
Now that you're like I'm glad Idid stick with it or I'm glad I
took that extra moment and spentit with that coach or anything

(54:02):
in particular, because our goalwith the Athletes' Podcast is to
educate, entertain and inspirethat next gen.
Obviously, when you've got twoOlympians sitting here, it's
like, okay, what are thosepieces that, for you two,
allowed you to get to that point, you know, a month ago in paris
, and that you looked back onand then you consistently were
able to reflect and be like,yeah, that's, that was part of
the reason I'm there I think Ithink, um, like, it's just about

(54:26):
not taking the losses.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Personally, I think for me, my journey to get to
olympics was so unconventionaland I think it's just something
that everyone can look at and belike.
You know, it's not about whereyou start, it's how about where
you finish, because startingfrom like elementary school, I
wasn't even like the fastestperson in the hundred.
When I got to high school Ididn't even want to run track
because of that running track inhigh school I still wasn't even
one of the best athletes in myage group.

(54:48):
Damn Damn.
Leaving high school I went tocommunity college.
So I'm not even a D1 athlete,d2 athlete, anything like that.
My second year of juniorcollege I didn't even have like
any Power 5 school offering me.
It wasn't until my seasonstarted and I ran the 100
because I'm so terrible atindoor.
Ohio State actually was like,okay, this guy can run, let's go
get this guy.

(55:15):
I got to Ohio State my firstyear.
I didn't make the conferenceindoor team.
First year I made nationals.
I didn't even make the Big Tenfinal in any individual event
except for the 200.
Leaving Ohio State it was cool,but I still wasn't even one of
the best in the country.
Up until two years ago, Iprobably wasn't even top five in
the country, so it's just allabout not taking the losses
personally, I'm just apsychopath.
If you think you're beating me,you're not beating me.
You just won today.
I'm going to win, I'm going togo back home, I'm going to get
my stuff, I'm going to come back, but I just am relentless.

(55:39):
I just never, ever, looked atany of those situations and was
like it ends here for me, and Ijust think that's what I see
people do.
Sometimes people are in asituation where they're D1
athletes who go to a schoolwhere they play soccer and they
get benched for a year or two,and now they want to transfer.
They don't want to.
They're making external excuses.
It's all about whenever youdecide that you want to give up,

(56:00):
whenever you feel like it'sover for you.
That's when it's done for you,because that's the biggest thing
I feel like as an athlete.
I don't know, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I'm ready to run through the wall right now.
Yeah, there's some bars inthere, for sure.
Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, um,mine beginning of the origin
story is the opposite, where Ifeel like I won a bunch of stuff
when I was young, won a bunchof stuff in high school to when
I got to college.
I went to the big d1 off ripexpected expected not from the
universe, but from myself.

(56:32):
A lot of people come up to meand be like how did you do it?
I'm just like I worked hard andthis is the result that I got
from it and I was never reallysuper surprised because I knew
that I worked for it.
I think college taught me thatyou can work really hard.
I think I said this last timeyou can work really hard, but
that doesn't mean you're alwaysgoing to get what you want, like

(56:52):
life's just not always thatfair.
It's not always black and white.
Because, I still was one of thehardest working people at Texas
and I was not getting theresults.
I just wasn't.
Yeah, For so many reasons, someof them being injuries, some of

(57:13):
them, I wish I knew more aboutthe sport to know that, hey,
this way of training isn't goingto work for me.
I wish I knew more enough aboutthe sport to trust my gut a
little bit more, like youtrusted people above you for a
certain amount of time to, andthey're gonna say, especially if
it works for others, hey, itshould.
It should work for you, it'sworked for all your other
teammates.
And I'm like, damn, yeah, it'smy fault and I'm okay with

(57:35):
taking that burden.
That it's me.
I don't mind if I'm the onethat has to go do something, but
not all of it.
You know, I wish I.
Just I didn't know the sportenough to know how to tweak it
for me.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I mean mean it's hard to in college too, right it's
hard to in college, especiallywhen you're not like the big
point scorer right, because thenwho's willing?
And it's so weird to me howthat works, where people, not
just in track but in life, givestuff to the people who are the
stars, when it's the people thatare working right under them
they need.
Those are the people that needthe support.
They need it.
I'm like you y'all we allexpected me to show up here and
be a superstar.
It's not happening, so don'tjust dash me.

(58:17):
I need yeah I need some and Ijust felt very much, and it's
just little little things feltvery much like man, like I'm not
respected here and I know itbecause and I could see it even
in practices like they make youfeel like, practices like they
make you feel like that thoughthey make you feel like that and
like the little opportunitiesgo to other people just the way

(58:37):
people listen to you in a crowdyeah it's crazy, it's crazy.
I'm like, yeah, y'all reallyhave speed goggles on heavy, and
it's not about the person atall at school, it wasn't, and I
had great times at texas.
I had great friends.
I think that's the only way Iwould have like made it through,
because the track was justtrash and trash for the

(59:00):
standards that I had set formyself specifically.
Right, yeah, that's.
And that's.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
That's different, like because you have high
expectations.
We've established that.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
But yeah, they did match my coaches.
So we all knew like wow, whenwe signed you, we thought you
were gonna do xyz.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah I have one trophy yeah, I think, like my
ohio state coach probably stillresent me to this day because I
wasn't what I was supposed to bewhen I walked in the building.
Like when they recruit you,they spend money on you, they
want you to come be asadvertised, because they there
was probably two, three otheroptions they probably had.
Yeah, and I couldn't imagine Iwas like at texas, because
that's actually a track school,like they have a track.
That's not a soccer field inthe middle, like it's a track

(59:34):
and field center yeah, I, alwaysI.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
It's important for me and for those listening right,
like I'm coaching youngbasketball kids now and it's
like I do want to make sure thatnot just the top scorer gets
that credit but two through nineget the same kind of
recognition, because they're theones that still need it.
I was, I was number nine,getting the most improved at
volleyball or whatever, and likethat's what helps right and

(59:58):
that award most improved is sickyeah literally improved that's
one of the best awards to get.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Like yeah, or like people that are like fifth man
off the fifth man of the yearlike you showed up and made a
difference on your team.
That's sick you literally havemaybe the best game, because you
made a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I don't know I don't think people understand.
Like, for example, track andfield.
My mom always told me only oneperson can win, which is why you
can't beat yourself up, butthere's other people who still
do extremely well.
So, for example, like youbrought up the environment where
it's like on a team full ofkids or whatever you can just
you have to gauge people'sinterest level, because the
people who are really reallygood, they end up being the
people who not, who do not seein the sport very long.

(01:00:34):
Yeah, it's the ones who arelike, not that good, who just
have the passion, just want tokeep going, keep trying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
That's what, like, the actual ingredient is for
building a star I laughedbecause I had a coach who did a
test with us and it was all thethings.
I might have said this to.
All the things that require notalent how well do you do those
things?
And it was all the things.
I might have said this too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
All the things that require no talent.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
How well do you do those things?
And it was like do you show upon time?
Do you do the recovery stuff?
Are you good to your coaches?
And one of them was passion.
I specifically remember, and wewent over it with the group to
see if we were being honest withourselves.
They were all like, yeah, mermshas a 10 out of 10 for passion.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
I the only thing I wanted out of that group was
passion, that's our secret sauce.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
I was training with world record holders uh, olympic
champions, world champions,ncaa record holders and I had 10
out of 10 for passion and I waslike, how do I catch up?
And I was like, how do I catchup?
How?

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
do I catch up and coach every day.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I figured it out.
Yeah, and coach, every day waslike you'd line up, I'd line up
with Kenny, and he'd be like,well, this is how far you are
from the world record.
And I was like damn how.
And you just, yeah, you justchip away at it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
The wheels start turning more, yeah, but it's
driven.
The oil of it is passion.
Like you know what I mean.
If you're not, if we weren'tpassionate, we could have been
making money, we have degrees,we could do anything else.
It's the passion that drivesyou to it.
Like you said, we're notmillionaires off track and field
, so that's not what's drivingus.
It's about that internalpassion of like I want to be
great at something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
I want to okay, I have a couple more questions.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Dr asimov, go ahead.
Yeah, what is that about doctor?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I didn't.
Where is, where is?
What is that about?
You said you were a doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
No, no, I'm not really a doctor.
I'm not a real doctor, what's?
Going on like I'm not.
I don't have a degree as adoctor, but I am a doctor, if
that makes sense a doctor of thegame, or what?
Doctor of many things.
Okay, just some things.
You might have to ask Somethings I can't tell.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Literally asking him right now, maybe something I
queued it up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I thought he was going to roll with it.
Yeah, no, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
So you don't have like a, because JS, another
Canadian on our team, isactually about to be a doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
See, no, I'm not about to be a doctor like that.
No, no, no, like a medicaldoctor and he's so goofy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
You're a doctor, so much fun.
Dr Phil still has a degree Doeshe actually have a real degree.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
He's a real doctor.
Yeah, dr Phil, he's a realdoctor.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Is he actually?

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I'm like 99.
I've seen some paperwork onthat.
He might be like a like, yeah,like, okay, I'm more like jerry
springer, doctor type of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
There's no doctor before jerry, I'm a does mori
have a doctor before?
I'm mori too, oh there you go,there you go, I can do that.
Okay, okay, okay.
I I was ready for you to breakinto like, yeah, I've been
studying for the past coupleyears and it's just like
something I was doing on theside.
Yeah, because that's what js islike you have a full nine to
five, which was what I thoughtyou were getting into.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Yes, let me, I'll get into that, yeah, so basically I
have nine to five working atlight solutions.
I'm really big into tech and it, internet of things.
I built a computer before, sothat's like my main thing.
Um, outside of track um, so Ihelp people with outsourcing
benefits for companies.
So, for example, if you workedfor a company and you wanted to
access your health care, ormaybe you got divorced and you

(01:03:56):
want to add your new girl onyour thing, you call me, so I'm
the guy for that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
How is training with the job?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Man, honestly, I went on leave in February because it
just gets tough, but it's justit's challenging.
I think training with the jobreally shows you how much you
really want it and you don'thave time for other people and
other stuff.
So, friends out the window,parties out the window.
If you're trying to be good,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
that's why I was bad for so long, because I was like friends

(01:04:33):
going out parties.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Priorities I'm trying to do everything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
You can't do everything right.
That's the thing you realizewhen you get old.
You have to do whatever isgoing to make you successful, so
you just have to prioritize,but you just have no life.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Yo, I heard speed goggles.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
I didn't realize how much time, effort, energy went
into your guys's glasses thatyou wear when you're running,
like, oh, please, yeah, I meanlike, I think, um, like shades
is like something for me that Ithink I'm starting to get new
into it's a it's a sick trend.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Yeah, it's a sick trend.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I think it's good because, like you, can't really
wear too much stuff that's gonnalike do too much when you're
running.
You don't want to be distracted.
I see Sha'Carri wears differentoutfits.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Sha'Carri.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Sha'Carri, sha'carri, sha'carri.
I'm sorry, I don't want her tocome at me with that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
She'll come at you Better.
I do it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I know, she's the one that was grilling to the right
as she ran over.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
yeah, have you done anything like that when I
crossed the finish line atNationals, she was just barking
wait till I see what I'm gonnado next year at Nationals.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Yeah, anyways.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
But yeah, and I was, I have that sick picture now.
I've always wanted a picture.
Yeah, you have that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I like my arms up picture that I have that one's
hard too, yeah after I beat thatmaybe those were our thumbnails
for the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
There you go, I'll let yeah after I beat that.
Maybe those were our thumbnailsfor the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Caption we look good physically.
We look good physically.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Yeah, we got that dog actually got that race in a
do-rag.
Yo people don't even know that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah, yeah yeah, that can't be good for aerodynamics,
some things I promise you makeyou faster.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
And running in a do-rag that's tough, like I
think that's one thing that I'mprobably the most proud about
because, like it's, if anyoneknows me, that's like the most
me thing to do.
Okay to be a do-rag run, butalso I ran freaking 1003 too,
like yeah that's part of it too,like who's quincy hall without
the grills at this point yeah,like you know, and that's
obviously the ads you know likethat's, that's hard and that's

(01:06:24):
goes to the same thing with theglasses, right?
so it's just like it gives youthat sense of personalize
yourself.
I saw Miriam with glasses atthe Olympics last year.
I'm like yo, you know what Imean.
At Worlds last year, I'm likeyou know what I got to spice
something up, man, I'm boring.
This adds something to it, andyou see Fred Curley and all
these other people.
So glasses is like.
I think it's a new wave.
I don't know what else is newcoming in besides glasses.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
We used high socks or like the shin things back in
the day we did the arm sleeveera I still did arm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yo, uh, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Last question before we wrap up merms and pocket
probably top two, top two, uh,top two names.
Can we, uh, can we get thebackstory?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
I laugh because we only call each other that yeah,
you guys, this is my do, this ismy DJ, this is my favorite DJ.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
It's my DJ Murms, you know what I mean Yo Pocket, Big
Pocket, you know the origin ofmy nickname.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
I can't share on this podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Everyone wants to know what's in your pockets.
I can only do it off the record.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
People want to know what's in my pockets Right now.
Nothing but wait.
No, I got a brush in my pocketYep.
No, I mean like people want toknow what's in my pockets.
Like I said on my post, youguys just don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
You're just like a wait and see type thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Like the doctor degree, yeah, it's coming, it's
coming, I mean yo it's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I feel like whatever's in the pocket you
don't see until it's in yourface, like damn.
I wish I saw that coming.
Okay, but how many parties haveyou DJed?
None, because the DJ for mealso a name of mystery, because
there's lots of different originstories out there.
But, to me.
I feel like it's just a vibesetting at this point, like I'm

(01:08:06):
just going to bring the vibes.
People have their originstories.
You're going to show out withsomething that you least expect
it Like what's in his pocket,what's up the sleeve?

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
you don't know it's popping arms.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
She's gonna bring the vibes you do bring the vibes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Thanks, this is wherever you go.
You do do that.
Um, yeah, no, this is dope,this is fun.
I've learned a lot, man this iscool.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
You learned a lot about tennis.
Did you learn a lot abouttennis?

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
today I learned about tennis, for sure.
I told you already uh, you'regonna learn a lot about my
nickname.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I pocket doesn't work , it's not yours.
Maybe something hockey, really,that hockey guy, no, no, no,
it'll come you liked the flowthough yeah, the first thing as
soon as I called as soon as Igot out of the crowd.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I was like, oh, what we call you flow man.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I thought big flow big flow, oh, big flow, that's
it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
That's kind of I just have a one in there.
I don't know, we'll see, we'llsee if it sticks.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Big Flo with a one in there.
We'll see if it sticks.
All right, yo, it's Big Flo.
Dj Mermz, can you start calling?
Hey, we're not.
We're not doing that, we'll askyou to we're in a different era
.
Right now, there's a lot ofstuff going on In social media
and social justice.
Right now, we're not gonna gofor that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
We should ask the the people watching, whether they
like Big Flo.
What was the other one that is?

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
That might be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Big Flo.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
I don't know Big Flo Yo audience.
Let us know if you're feelingit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Let them know if you're feeling it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Let him know if you're feeling the big flow with
the one, big flow with the one.
Look at the hair, look at thisguy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
You're telling me, if you put him on a hobby you look
like a black woman with a silkdress.
If you put him on a commercialright now, shake it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
If I put him at a backdrop, with the Vancouver
Canucks in the background, andgave him the mic, you would
think he played for them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Yeah, Now we'll just drive 10 minutes go to Oshawa.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
See what the kids say in Oshawa.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Yeah, that's true, we'll just go through the
streets.
Yeah, in the schwa.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Those will be the best judge of you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yeah, I mean we're all good because we're with Big
Flo, nothing's going to happen.
We're good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
No, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
We're with Big.
Flo I already like it.
I think it's the one Big flow.
Oh man, We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
I'm about to change that.
You got to love it too.
I don't hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Okay, I just don't know whether I necessarily Big
flow Listen it's all about theaura You'll become it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
It's all about the aura.
Yeah, you're giving it Likeit's tough you gotta make it
work for you one day I Iactually will, but you know what
I mean when you're a doctor,I'll be a dj, but, like you, if
that's the aura you're giving,own it and you'll become a big

(01:10:42):
flow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
You gotta own the flow.
You're acting like you don'tspend money on that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Products on the hair and even if you don't have the
flow, it'll just be part of theaura it's uh there, chippy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Have you guys heard of Coach Chippy?

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
I have a best friend.
I call Chippy actually, but no,who's this?

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
You have a best friend, Chippy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I call her Chippy yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Okay, go on.
So, coach Chippy is all aboutstyle and flow, not thinking too
much.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Jeez.
So there's more.
It's a deeper meaning.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
He's in Barry.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
He's too much, so I'll take it.
Oh yeah, we'll see, let's seeit.
And then you could you knowwhat the line is.
You go, girls, I'm a kid beyour BF, and you're like oh yeah
, well, you're like, nah, bigflow, you're like.
You like yo I don't know whatyou think of my boyfriend
talking about you, gotta, but ifthey go for that, then you
could go for that, depending howyou feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
You're feeling you're big flow I'm set, you're good,
I'm set.
I didn't think I was coming towhippy and getting relationship
advice, but now I'm big flow,big flow in, I think it's sick,
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Think that when you're in your marathon, and
you're hitting oh yeah, that'sexactly.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
That's another thing, just means like don't play with
me, don't play like I'm thatguy like when you're about to
line up, like when I tell, lookat myself in the mirror.
I'm like it's it's big park,it's time to go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
You have your hands in so many different things
exactly you do so much that'slike you gotta own it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
That's your, that's your confidence.
You're running a marathon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
You're an agent, you have a podcast yeah, what else
are you not doing?
Weekly you showed up in the ina renovated Star Wars bus.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
You said you were going to come to Nationals.
Can we talk a?

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
little bit about the bus, and you didn't just talk
about it, you did it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
We do have to do stuff.
You got to be able to have astory to tell.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Yeah, and just to show up for people.
You said you would be there andyou were.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Man of his word Big flow.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Big flow.
Keep doing that, if you guyslike it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Tag him and just call him Big Flow.
Tag him and just say Big Flow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
I think I mean, maybe I'll just spam your Instagram
with just comments.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
I'm getting it going Big flow.
He goes by Big Flow.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
It could work.
It could work my old nicknamethe biggest.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
That's not.
That's not, it, we're not we'renot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
We're not.
Yeah, you're not that guy.
A lot of us are not who we usedto be I've definitely
progressed since my golf days.
Yeah, see what I'm saying.
Yeah, you're big, can you teachme how to golf 100?
I actually I'm serious mygirlfriend's boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
He I'm like whoa, my girlfriend's brother.
That was about to be alldifferent oh yeah yeah, my
girlfriend's brother he's beenkicking my ass, so I need to
learn how to.
I got you I got you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
We're gonna start this thing where we people who
we have on the podcast, we goout and like train, whether it's
on the track, for instancedoing what you guys do, or like
go in the swimming pool withfinley or you know, whatever the
case may be.
So it's like a plan big flowyeah, big flow got the plants
when in whitby, you know yougotta make stuff happen for sure

(01:13:37):
, and if it's not in whitby,it'll be in ajax or oshawa, but
we'll keep highlightingincredible folks like you on the
pod and uh, thank you guys forcoming on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
This is fun yeah, maybe too much fun, almost yeah,
there's so many more questionsthat went well, what do you?

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
what should we talk about if, if you had five
minutes left?
Is there anything else you guyswant to go through right now?
We?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
had a whole list.
I guess we did the food, we didthe rooms.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
I think the air conditioning, oh, people wanted
to know about the air.
Big bus problem, no flow, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
But then we no, yeah, no airflow super quick, rapid
fire, I'll do the bed okay.
So, yeah, you go do the beds.
Okay, the beds in the olympicvillage.
I had absolutely no problemwith them, I showed up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Could you have jumped on the bed if you wanted to?

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
I have saw people jumping on the bed.
I think I could have jumped onthe bed I remember, like
standing on the bed and it wasfine, um, but I didn't want to
jump on it because I didn't wantto remake it if I had to,
because it was nice that Ishowed up and it was already
made for me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Oh yeah, they did have it there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Canada had mattress toppers for us, so I didn't feel
like I was on a cardboard bedbecause we had mattress toppers.
A country that didn't.
I feel like it probably wouldhave been uncomfortable because
it is a cardboard bed.
Also, if I was anything biggerthan 5'4", however many pounds
probably would have beenuncomfortable cardboard beds.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Air conditioning.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
There was none.
Well, okay, no, they actuallygave us the air condition.
That's like canada was that?

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
yes, sorry, they gave us portable ones that we
actually had to set up on ourown.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Not every country had them, though canada paid for
that oh yeah, so canada paid forthem.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
We had to set them up on our own and it's like this
elaborate thing where they wentthrough the door.
So you have to have, like,basically vacuum seal the door,
have this thing going out, andthat's how your ac is on I
didn't set it up and if you, and, if you like, there's like the
thing that went outside if thatsomehow was not all time that
was inside your room is gettingflooded and, yes, that happens.
Some of the guys on the teamyeah, they were, they're not
contractors that's the firstthing, I'm not a blue collar

(01:15:30):
woman.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
I woman, I'm not doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
They literally said there's a video in the app to
set it up and I watched thevideo and I did it wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
The way I had no brain capacity to do anything
other than eat and run in thattime.
That's what you're there for,though, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
The more I hear about this.
I wish there was.
I'm glad you're bringing it up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
The village had so much stuff I don't even know
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
I believe they would have had someone to come fix it.
Yeah, they did.
Yeah, I just didn't, I was justlike I don't care, just
embraced it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Yeah, we had a huge window in my room.
It was a vibe okay.
And last thing, the lulu gear.
What do you think about it?
Uh, the lulu get it.
That's we're rocking the lulu.
Yes, what do you?

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
think about the lulu gear lulu gear was a jump scare
when I first saw it, becauseeveryone's used to Lulu being
very minimalist, so we expectedminimalist.
We had another team that Canadasent track people super
minimalist, very Lulu oh you'retalking about Pan Ams, pan Ams,
so when I saw all the gear forthe Olympics I was like whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
It was a lot.
I was like why it wasadvertised, because whenever we
get gear for teams, I'm like yo.
This is nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
When we we get gear for uh teams.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
I'm like yo, this is nothing.
When we got gear for theolympics, I'm like this is close
, yeah, yeah, and they hooked upwith a lot of stuff.
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
It was a lot of stuff and about the patterns they're
growing on me.
They actually are.
It did at the beginning theywere.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
It was a lot because they tell you how to wear
certain things.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
So opening ceremonies yeah, like how the outfit, how
the outfit shows, yeah patternshorts pattern thing when you
wear them individually.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
They start to grow on me now the opening ceremony
bomber jacket I almost put thaton today.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
I feel like I can't put it on.
I think it's too much, I thinkit's too nice, no, like too nice
.
Oh no, I'm trying to just wearit but like it's just like a
fall thing that would havegotten us in anywhere.
You realize that yeah like, dopeople recognize you in Olympic
stuff?
Do they tell?

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Yeah, this guy, this guy, yes, they would, yeah To
answer your question.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Well, I went up to Demetri's after Olympics and
some guy's like did you go toOlympics?
I see all the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
I said nah, this is just.
I bought it from someone.
Don't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
I got it from To tell people I didn't know it was
sold out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
They sell it.
You could have gone into.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Blue Lemon at the mall.
You at the Canada House.
Let me tell you this you wentto the Canada House right, Right
outside the friends and familything.
Everything we're wearing is onsale.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Yeah, it's different.
Everything we have differentlogos, but it's at a distance.
That's why he asked you,because, because you could have
just bought the jacket.
And that's why I told him Ibought it.
It was a $300 jacket allegedlyon sale.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
You see the Fun Guy hoodie that I was rocking.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah Was it a.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
New Balance one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they sent meit with the shoes that I'm
wearing for the marathon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Oh sick.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
And then I had someone hit me up.
They're like yo, where'd you?

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
get that hoodie.
I can't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thefuck.
That's a Kwan sweater, that one.
They don't make that oneanymore.
I've been looking for that thatguy yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
That's actually thanks to Miriam.
We're still working.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
We're cooking underneath, Okay okay, I see
what you guys got going on.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot, but you know it
is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
That's sad.
Fix ioc.
Let's get the ac please inorder for all the countries, for
all, especially if it's a moneyissue, make it accessible to
the countries that didn't wantto pay for it.
Some people were hot also.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Give the athletes more money, yeah yeah, that's
just a never-ending issue always.
But you probably have seen nowwith other athletes, nil getting
a bit more down in the statesyeah, I need reparations.
Diamond League what's thatother league that's coming, the
Grand Slop track.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it Athlos.
What's the?
Athlos, the all-women trackmeet that just happened the
other day 60K for the winner.
Yeah, it was yesterday.
I'm really not watching trackfor real anymore, I just watched
the hurdles, it was nice.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
It's coming.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
We're working on it Because we're with Big Flow
right now.
We're working on everything,yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Hey, there's a lot coming, but that's why we do
this on a weekly basis.
We showcase people likeyourselves and it's coming.
We're going to make it happenand then think about, like you
said, what's changed over thepast five years, what's going to
happen over the next five?
Right, we'll have this sameconversation after LA.
You guys are both going to havemedals around your necks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
That was my question.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
You're going to the next one yeah, next Olympics
I'll be going to the nextOlympics.
I'll go, I'll be there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Miriam told me she was going to LA before she even
went to Paris.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Yeah, Because she's just Miriam's just a crazy
person like that.
Miriam told me she's nevergoing to stop running.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
She didn't say that she did say that she told me she
was going to start picking upgolf and other stuff too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
No, literally.
And then I was like I need toask you, Teach me how to.
I can play golf forever.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Yeah, it's the best LA.
Look out Snoop, I'm coming.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Snoop.
I got to meet Snoop I got toavenge Drake's loss.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
So I'm coming to LA to take this very, very, very
personally, very personally.
I hope you hear this, kendrick.
I take this very, verypersonally.
It's not a game.
It's not a game, sir.
I wait four years for stuff.
I'm not an impulse guy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Drake will give you a key to the city.
For that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Oh, don't worry, we're going to get some medals
on LA's turf.
They know that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Yeah, that's sick.
There you go, big flow.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Hopefully OVO.
Maybe you guys can sponsor forthe next one, Maybe you guys
give us some opening ceremonystuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
That'd be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Damn Hook us up OVO Come on Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
I'm shouting to say Something.
Did that Skateboarding issponsored by OVO?

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Yeah, Because I met a skateboarder, actually a
Canadian skateboarder, and theyhad like OVO apparel, like that
was their thing.
I'm like yo, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Yeah, interesting, damn Interesting, interesting,
Did you?

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
watch the breakdancing oh.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Yo Phil.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Wizard was yo.
Phil wizard was good though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, canadiananyone goals he was.
She was not good.
I heard she did it on purpose.
Apparently she didn't.
That's her talent level, nothey.
And she also came out as likegetting ranked number one again
recently because I did the, dida deep dive.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Her husband her husband was on the committee
that shows husband her husbandwas on the committee that shows
who's on the squad and they justmade the ruling system like
it's very break dancing.
It was kind of likeskateboarding that if you bring
this like like underground, likeout of not like anti, like

(01:21:49):
rules thing into a sport likethat's, people are gonna have
lash against it.
So they put all these likerules people didn't agree with,
people didn't even want to turnit into a sport like.
This is our culture, it's not asport.
So some of the best some of thebest didn't even show up.
It's an activity, a hobby, andthen her husband was on the
committee and then it cost money.
So people who are into thiskind of stuff that can't afford

(01:22:12):
it, break't and it's all breakdancing expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
How you just dance.
No, no, no, not break dancingto go to the competitions and
all the stuff to qualify.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
So if you had money and if I, if the I guess the
selection committee was yourhusband, then you might make the
team yeah, I heard there wassome shady shit going on yeah,
it was just wow sucks because itprobably took out someone who
had actually worked really hard,who wasn't.
Yeah, you could go on thestreet in New York and find
somebody better than her.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
What was she doing?
She was doing like some flickthing.
I know I could have probablybeen in that if that was a thing
.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Ray Gunn was her name .
I think I could have been doingtwo things, ray Gunn.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Ray Gunn, that's a tough bounce.
She received some backlashonline.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
We won't, and in turn , they took it out the next
olympics.
So yeah, yes, they did yeah butyou know what?

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
your events aren't going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
No, we're actually starting the next olympics, I
think oh, did hear that becauseyou guys ending it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
It's kind of weird.
Both we always end, fortunately, both you and hannah, though
we're on the same day at least,so I only had to wake up once at
2 am.
Just grind through it, but itwas worth it because it was cool
.
It was pretty.
Lander and I were both prettyemotional just being able to do
that.
So, yeah, no, it was cool andexcited to watch it over the
next three years before LA.

(01:23:26):
Yo Dwayne, thanks for coming onthe pod man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
No, big deal deal, big flow.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
You know, this is dope, this is dope and uh yo,
next time we'll have to get outon the track yo, we should do
something.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
We gotta see you run.
Yeah, you gotta see the tech.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
I'm not gonna be fast yeah, he was like I wanted to
see you guys, right, if I, if Isee the a runs, I just know 10,
10 high.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
10 high, no, 10 low you're going to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
You're under 11, that's good.
No, that's all you need to go.
As long as you go under 11,we're good.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Yeah, sure, yeah uh, maybe in the 40.
Uh, come on, dog, you see me.
Uh, we'll see.
I don't know, we'll find out.
Miriam's laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
She doesn't know what to do my golf will probably be
just as bad as you're running,so we'll both.
I don't even think he lookslike he can run.
I think you're faster thananything listen, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
I'm like a train.
It takes me a while, but onceI'm up hey, I'm not, I'm not
quick I know you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
When you said you had a slow start, I was like we got
something calm see, but I thinkI think your slow start is like
my best start so I hope, so, Ihope so, I hope so for my sake,
yeah, yeah yeah, no, we'll findout though next time.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Thank, you guys, this is fun yo 244 on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Uh, thank you guys.
This is dope thank you bigfloat.
That was the 244th episode ofthe athletes podcast.
Thank you, folks, for tuning in, sticking around this long.
Use the code ap20 at chico tosave 20 on perfect sports
supplements, the best protein incan.
And a big shout out goes toDwayne and Miriam for coming on
the show sharing their stories,the insights man.

(01:24:58):
I am sincerely grateful forwhat I get to witness and
experience on a weekly basisthanks to this incredible
platform, and it wouldn't behere without you folks who
continue to listen, watch, share, subscribe.
It sincerely means the world tome and I'm excited for what's
to come, because we're fiveyears in.
People don't know what's comingnext and we got a lot on the go

(01:25:19):
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So thanks for being a part ofthe journey.
I promise you won't bedisappointed and we'll see you
next week for another newepisode.
Hope you have a great rest ofyour day.
Bye.

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