November 19, 2024 • 39 mins
Get ready to be inspired by Sach Latti's astonishing endurance journey as he shares his experience of running 60 kilometres every day for 60 days. We explore the incredible mental strength and dedication required for such a feat and discuss his next ambitious goal of running across Canada as the first person of colour to do so. Alongside these awe-inspiring stories, we chat about the importance of supporting local sports, with a nod to Alexander Ovechkin's pursuit of Wayne Gretzky's record and the Toronto Argonauts' recent Grey Cup victory. Plus, we touch on the sensational impact of big-name boxing events like the Jake Paul-Mike Tyson showdown.
Recovery is as essential as the performance itself, and in this episode, we offer a refreshing take on rejuvenation through cold plunges and sauna sessions at Hydro Haus. Kevin, the owner, joins us to share the benefits of contrast therapy, which plays a crucial role in athletic recovery. Our conversation includes personal stories of camaraderie and resilience during challenging outdoor events, emphasizing the power of shared experiences. We also highlight a memorable encounter with a family of athletes, epitomizing the spirit of adventure and determination at its finest.
This episode ventures into brain endurance training, shedding light on how physical challenges can foster cognitive growth and resilience. We conclude with a thought-provoking look at the potential of psilocybin in recovery and personal development, with an exciting outlook on an upcoming mushroom ceremony. Join us for an episode that showcases the limitless potential of human endurance and the strength of mental resilience.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
why I?
I just look at it as like wow,that's, that's incredible.
Like look at what they'rethey're capable of doing.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
That's fair.
That's 100.
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The same as when you're going through your 60k
per day for 60 days and I hadhow many people telling me like
how the heck's this guy doing?
I'm like man, I'm out there for10 of his 60k and he just keeps
chugging along.
He's.
He's no different than you, meyeah, you've just no, that's
right yeah, and it is humblingto see because you yourself are
(00:30):
doing that most people can't dothat right, can't wrap their
head around running 60 yeah, letalone every single day hey,
what's up?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
welcome back to the 247th episode of the athletes
podcast.
Today we feature satch laddie.
This summer, he just completed60 kilometers per day in 60 days
.
This episode we're going totalk about it next summer.
He's running across canada.
He's going to be the firstperson of color to do so, and I
can't wait to be along thisjourney with him.
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Alexander Obechkin is only 29goals away from breaking Wayne
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What's?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
going on team.
We're here at Hydro House withthe owner, kevin, who's
graciously provided thisenvironment for me and whoever
else we joined to get somerecovery in.
And yeah, like I said, he'sbeen here brand new spot and we
want to support local becausehe's in the local Vancouver area
and so just take it away, kevin, guide us through this sort of
(04:14):
contrast therapy.
What is it and why do we do it?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Wicked, yeah.
So yeah, my name is Kevin andI'm super excited to be with
these guys today.
These athletes at at hydrohouse, uh and uh, yeah, it's
just the best way that I foundto recover, and I'm sure you
know, uh, you guys can attest tothat after after trying the
cold plunge, sure, so why don'tyou just tell us um, really
(04:38):
guide us in.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What are we doing?
Cool, yeah.
What's the system?
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
yeah, so I like to start cold, just like an initial
shock, just to get familiarwith the cold, and then, uh, so
like 30 seconds to one minute,whatever you guys want to do,
there's timers right there.
I usually like to take threebig breaths and on the third
breath I'll I'll hold thatbreath in, step in, sink in, and
as I sink in I'll I'll releasethat exhale.
Fine, it helps because when weget in there it sort of knocks
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the wind out of you and thatsort of helps me kind of control
my breathing.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So just to confirm.
So we're going to jump in 30seconds.
We'll do a couple breathsbefore we go in.
Yeah, After the 30 seconds,where do we go?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Right into the sauna Heat up there for 15 minutes and
, yeah, the idea is it gets realhot, hot enough that you're
looking forward to come back inhere.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Nice wood stove sauna .
You know wood burning.
Well, that's the thing I'vebeen.
I've already come here a coupletimes already, and that is
probably one of the bettersaunas I've been in, because it
gets freaking hot.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's almost it's like 100 degrees Celsius.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's awesome, Sounds good All right ready to
rock and roll, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Okay, guys, enjoy how's it going.
How you guys feeling good, I'mexcited for this.
(05:59):
I hope you're timing it he is.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm not used to this.
You're timing it.
He is.
I'm not used to this.
You're Scandinavian probably.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I've been doing cold exposure for probably five years
now.
Yeah, you're a pro.
Wim Hof Lake Ontario.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, you're a pro, not me, looks like it.
Beginner, that's good, let's go.
Experiences for sure.
Well, your lips were blue a bitthere.
I said I was watching, um, whenyou were leaving.
Yeah, you're checking in on me.
Your lips were kind of blue,yeah it was cold.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, it was cold.
We probably, like liam and Iprobably, were shivering from
the halfway, like two and a halftwo hours in, just after that
it was.
It was a long show.
We were not prepared either,like shorts and t-shirt.
Yeah, we, none of us wereprobably prepared yeah but you
know what, sometimes that's the.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Sometimes that's a good thing, because then you can
see what, where the where theroadblock is, or how much you
can do.
Yeah, like, I mean, you likebeing ill prepared, you still
did the whole thing.
Yeah, right, so that's beingill-prepared.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You still did the whole thing.
Yeah, right, so that's prettycool.
Yeah, I think it was.
It goes back to like beforeeven doing a marathon or a half
marathon, you're like I know Ican finish this 10k whether I'm
fueled properly or not, right,you know you can get over those
things and I think the onlyfactor would have been the cold,
because that changes thedynamic, Because you don't.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean 21K, you know, even if you're walking for four
hours you don't need a ton offood.
No, but when you're talkingabout the cold weather, because
it said it was four degrees whenwe got there, but it was well
below that- Because of the rainand hail snow.
Yeah, because like we weredoing elevation too, so we
climbed a bit.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So it had to have dropped under like to zero at
least.
Yeah, the only time it stoppedraining was when it was snowing
and hailing, so it definitelywas cold and just to have that
five hours soaking wet no funfor anyone.
Uh, this woman actuallymessaged me afterwards who she
works for.
Lulu, her and her 18 year oldson completed it and I couldn't
get over the fact that everyonewho was up on that mountain that
(08:11):
day is gonna remember that andremember how difficult it was
and have that as a memory good,bad or ugly.
Where were they from?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
local, I'm pretty sure she was was it the woman
that and her son that wassitting next to me?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think they knew you .
That's why she was hitting me.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Okay, so yeah yeah, so she, I was sitting next, so
she works for lulu.
Yeah, oh, I don't know that,I'm pretty sure.
No, when I was talking to her,um, I was just telling her.
They were just talking, andthen I shared what I was doing,
what I was planning to do, andthey just got all excited, yeah,
and then um, but I was talkingto the kid.
He just turned 18, yeah, andthey live in North Vancouver,
(08:50):
okay, and he's training to do afull try.
No, at 18, and his mom, they'vedone marathons and halves
before, so they're they'refairly fair, you know.
So I was like, hey, man,whenever I'm in North Vancouver,
let's go for a run, and um, butthey were super nice, they, the
whole family, started followingme.
Heck, yeah, so it was like theyounger brothers and all that
(09:11):
kind of stuff.
So, yeah, it's interestingbecause they were with.
They were right in front of uswhen we started.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Remember the tall people that were right, okay, I
think it was them, and theycrushed it in three hours.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, they're animals , they, they were savage.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I can't get over it.
I could have gone faster.
Liam and I were talking aboutit.
I definitely could have, but itwas also like you're trying to
do this as a team.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Going through it.
I'm also using it as anelevation experience.
I am glad I didn't go harderbecause it would have.
Yeah, at the end my everythingwas tight seizing up.
Also, the cold weather does nothelp.
Then you're doing obstacles,lifting your hamstring.
You're like just praying thatit doesn't snap on you.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It was scary well, I think um the mother daughter
team or the mother-son team.
I suspect I didn't ask them.
I suspect they didn't do theobstacles.
No, yeah, because to do thatwhole thing in three hours and
the obstacles would have beenlike.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well, I'm pretty.
What do you do?
We know the final stats fromthe competitive field Because
they did everything.
The competitive field.
There were people out therethat did the 50K.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, I know, they did it twice.
I had it afield.
There were people out therethat did the 50K.
Yeah, I know they did it twice.
No, I think they had to.
I can't remember who was sayingit.
If they didn't make it by acertain time, they were going to
cut it Right Because of theweather and safety reasons.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, but yeah no there were people out there
doing it.
That was humbling when you weregetting lapped by guys who were
on their second no I.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
If actually so, why does it?
Why do you think it's humbling?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
for me as a young 20 something individual that still
has the ego there, you're likesure man, this human being who I
should theoretically be able tocompete.
Why?
Because I'm I work hard.
Theoretically, okay,theoretically I like I work hard
, I do a lot of stuff, I trainat different modalities.
(11:10):
Sure, I'm like I would like tothink that if you pulled someone
you know hunger game style 1v1,I'm gonna fare pretty well
again for sure, for sure, forsure so then when I see what's
possible, I'm like damn, likethat's humbling, because I think
I, I there's no reason Icouldn't be there, and I know
I'm not there, right now so.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I want to identify how to get there, sure, so I
think so.
For me it's not humbling.
For me, I understand thedifference of modalities.
So, for example, maybe if weasked one of those guys how long
they've been training for thisevent and they said three years
or two years or a year nonstop,would that make you feel better.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Not really.
That's the difference.
I'm like I just I've only beenrunning for four, five, six
months.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Okay, so sure.
So then can you run 60kilometers in 60 days?
So it's the same thing.
I've been training for fouryears to do that.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
I've been training for fouryears to do that three years.
These guys have been trainingfor so long.
So I think maybe to think thatyou can do something that you
haven't trained for it would belike saying can you get into the
(12:17):
Olympics, do you feel bad?
Is that humbling?
Because I look at it the sameway.
I don't see them as any morespecial than me.
They've trained in a specificmodality for a number of years
it would be.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I think it would be same humbling if I was at a
track meet and I go to high jumpagainst someone and really,
really, yeah, man, like I wantto compete with everyone, I
don't care who it is, I'm acompetitor, right like so for me
.
I'm like ah, damn, that's thegap.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Okay, fair, that's fair.
Do you do anything about thatgap then?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
If I wanted to go to the Olympics for high jump, I
would start.
I did it with running or I'mdoing it with running.
Right now I'm doing it withweightlifting, with my body?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I don't know, man, I think you're being hard on
yourself.
I really do.
I'm extremely hard on yourself.
Yeah, I really do, I'm, I'mextremely hard on myself I used
to be like that too.
Yeah, and I think I, aftergetting spanked so many times in
various different areas, I waslike what is wrong with me?
Why do I suck?
Yeah, and then I just figuredout they've been doing it way
longer, that's it yeah, which isfine.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
but I mean, okay, they've.
They've had more time on thisearth, they've trained longer,
that's fine.
Maybe they're focused on thatspecific thing.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Sure, whatever the case may be, okay, sure, sure.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
But for me I'm like that.
Just because they've beentraining for 10 years longer
doesn't mean for me that's not agood enough reason to not try
and pursue something.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Do your best in the moment.
Yeah, that's fine, I agree withthat.
Do your best in the moment.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, not try and jump seven meters, right,
because I won't hit it, but dothe best in that moment, okay.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
So I maybe understand better now.
So the humbling is not so muchmore of like a negative feeling,
but rather like oh, oh, man,there are people out there that
are amazing.
Yeah, that's what you mean.
Yeah, okay, so I misunderstoodyeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
No, that's fair, because for me that's, that's
the podcast, right, that's 240people.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That shows how messed up I am.
I'm like humbling why I?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I just look at it as like wow, that's, that's
incredible.
Like look at what they'rethey're capable of doing that's
fair.
That's fair, 100 that's fairthe same as when you're going
through your 60k per day for 60days and I had how many people
telling me like how the heck'sthis guy doing?
I'm like man, I'm out there for10 of his 60k and he just keeps
chugging along.
He's.
(14:39):
He's no different than you, me,yeah you've just no, that's
right yeah, and it is humblingto see because you yourself are
doing that Most people can't dothat right, can't wrap their
head around running 60, letalone every single day.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean that's a fair point, because now that I
reflect because I've had a bitof time to reflect, right, it's
been a couple of weeks, it'sbeen a couple of weeks right of
time to reflect, right, it'sbeen a couple weeks, it's been a
couple weeks right and um, it'sum, I still can't believe it,
to be honest, like I still can'tbelieve I've gone from where I
was to where I am now, in aboutthree and a half years, and it's
(15:18):
like wild man.
It's wild what a person can doand achieve in a short period of
time, like three, four yearsit's not a long time In a short
period of time, which is hardwork and conviction.
And I think so when I reflectback I'm like I just did that.
(15:42):
It's like a trip.
Yeah, like it's a trip, and nowI'm already on to the next sort
of phase.
So I'm not sure if I'll fullybe able to process the 60.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
What was the funds raised?
Let's talk about, like, duringthat 60 days.
You spoke at a couple differentevents.
You were able to impactthousands of people through
social media.
Most memorable moments you gotsick also like halfway through.
That didn't help things.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
No, the first two weeks for sure were tough.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, just figuring out a routine, just getting out
of my own head, because that wasreally the longest you'd ever
gone that distance.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You had done 40 for 40, basically last year right,
no, no, I did 22 marathons and22 consecutive days across the
province.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right, so a better marathon being 40.
So 42 kilometers.
Right, so that's like 40 perday, yeah, so you know, you
upped that by about 20, so I did, um, so in 22 days.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I did, uh, just over a thousand kilometers in 60 days
at 3600.
So you know, yeah, about thatpercentage, what you're saying,
and um, yeah, those first twoweeks were hard, man.
And why was it hard?
It was like figuring out how todo it, like I trained, but how
to organize my life around it,because last year when I ran
(17:07):
across the province, it was, uh,I'm across the province, I,
that's what I'm doing, like I'mstuck out here, I gotta do it
right, whereas this time aroundI was here, I was still taking
care of my responsibilities,still, um, you know, I was here.
It was, you know, getting pulledin different directions and
different things happening, andso I think this was hard in a
(17:28):
different way.
Um, in the first two weeks itwas really a struggle because I
was in my head and I was kind ofpaying attention to social
media a bit and, um, just, youknow, I don't want people to
think I was too slow or this,that, like, all these different
things are going through my head, right.
And then there were times where, you know, like, on weekends
(17:49):
I'm with my daughter, so I, youknow, have to find times where
to run, either before or aftershe's gone, or when she's asleep
, or so.
I didn't have a treadmill whenI first started, so I'm like
this is gonna be hard, like howI'm gonna manage all of this
right doing it all on pavementand then, uh, fortunately for me
, I went for a run with a buddyof mine, uh, and his wife at you
(18:11):
know, one of the days.
They wanted to join me for a bitof it and I was at campbell
valley park and just talkingabout what's going on and you
know some of the struggles andwhatnot and like a week later
they swung by my house anddropped off on a treadmill, whoa
Like, and I was like it was abit of a joke.
I was like this is the firsttime in my life I was happy to
(18:34):
see a treadmill Like it was.
I was emotional.
It was an emotional thing forme because how I looked at it
was like they're helping mebecome the person I need to be.
They're helping facilitate that.
The running is just cool andall that, but it's everything
(18:55):
else.
So once I got the treadmill Iput it right next to my bed and
then things became a little biteasier to organize, to manage
time, to do all the differentthings and then so it was kind
of I don't want to say easy, butsmooth sailing for a couple
three weeks.
(19:19):
And then once I got to about twoweeks out I think it was about
two, two and a half weeks,something around that I ended up
getting sick, so then ended upgetting a sinus infection and
where everything was in my lungs.
So I'm coughing up phlegm whileI'm running.
Honestly, you can almost stillkind of hear the bit of it now.
It's just kind of here and it'sstill affecting me now because
I can't hear it.
In my right ear.
I still got tons of fluidbuildup from the sinuses.
So I actually went to thedoctor yesterday.
(19:40):
I was like I thought it wasgoing to go away, yeah, but I
was like man, this is like goingon like a month and a bit, I'm
like I need to do something.
So the doctor's like he gave mesome basic stuff, nothing crazy
, some flownase and, um, youknow, get some stuff to rinse
out my nose and my sinuses.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
He's probably like hold off on the 60k for 60 days
after that too I didn't well, sohe's, so he's.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
He's been my doctor, uh, from the beginning, so he
knew what my plan was, so he'sbeen integrated into the process
and what did he thinkoriginally?
well, I told him I was gonna runacross canada that was the
original plan, which is stillkind of happening and, uh, he's
like okay, and he was cool man,he was like okay, so let's get
some tests done to see whereyou're at right now, to see if
(20:22):
you're able to yeah, you know,um, and then after each time
we'll kind of test you out, seewhere your blood work is at,
where your body's at, if it'sgoing to be.
He wanted to check before Istarted everything.
He checked my heart.
He wanted to make sure my heartwasn't messed up nice with from
all you know from previousworkouts, and so he can at least
have a baseline to see wherethe cardiac my heart is, if
there's any thickness inanywhere or anything like that,
(20:43):
right.
So we covered those bases.
And he was also very helpfulwhen I he was the one who
diagnosed me with my majordepressive disorder, right,
because I was doing he was mydoctor doing work, all that
stuff.
So, yeah, he's, so, yeah, he's.
And I saw him yesterday and hewas happy.
He was like man, good for you,and he's a younger guy, he's not
(21:06):
an older guy.
He's probably like in his 30s,nice, and so he's and he's a
really he's a generalpractitioner, but he's really
one of his passions is mentalhealth, so he's kind of in that
space, so to speak.
Yeah, so, anyways, to answeryour question, he he was cool,
right, um, but yeah, like the,the last couple weeks were
challenged in that way but, yeah, speaking like I've, I still
(21:27):
was maintaining all theobligations.
So the number one obligationwas my daughter.
So with her a couple times aweek, taking her to soccer,
taking her to camps, all thatkind of stuff, and then, um,
public speaking, I was stilldoing that, I was still doing
podcasts.
So, like I remember one day Iwas like maybe a couple weeks
before I was done or 10 daysbefore I was doing a podcast in,
uh, it was in surrey somewherethe brown, the brown boys
(21:50):
podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
We were, we were running right before and yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
So we were going for that run.
It was the uh, modern brownboys.
It still hasn't been releasedyet, but yeah, I'm on the run.
I'm like, hey man, I gotta goon the podcast.
So I did everything, finishedthe 60 and then went to do a
podcast and then, uh, but Ithink this was a good.
I mean, this was a goodtraining grounds for me too, man
, just being able to manage allthe different things.
I was never good at that before, so it was a good opportunity
(22:15):
to like figure out how to manageeverything.
And also, I don't want to bearound uh, I didn't want to not
be around my daughter for thatmuch time.
Yeah, because I will be nextyear, right.
So I wanted to pick when thatwould be.
Yeah, and I thought this wouldbe a training block.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So, whatever training block yeah, and that, uh, that
treadmill saved you because youwere doing half your 30 out of
60 out on that and that wasamazing sort of for training
Cause like uh, you know,whenever I could do it, I'd do
it.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I was using it like for recovery in that sort of way
, right, like, so, like let'ssay, for example, I ran 30
outside during the day, or let'ssay 40 or whatever it was, and
then I'd make the second portionor the last bit as a recovery
protocol.
So now we're cooling down, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Now we're taking tons more water and we're just doing
a half marathon to cool down,you know.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
That's freaking nuts, isn't it Like now that I I mean
it's fucking crazy man Like toeven say that, like I was
talking to.
I was at the gym today and Iwas leaving and I ran into one
of my old physiotherapists fromway back in the day and she's
been tracking and we were justtalking about this stuff and I
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was just talking about leadingup what I want to do for next
year, how I want to preparemyself mentally, and I was
throwing out these numbers, andshe's like fuck, it's wild, like
you're just throwing thesenumbers out, like it's like,
like it's normal well, and sheprobably saw you or knows you as
a bodybuilder too, right sheknew me as a bodybuilder.
So she's like what?
Yeah, because I was, because mygoal is to run at least 100k a
(23:49):
day while I'm running acrosscanada, right?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
isn't the record 105k per day current record.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, so I'm, but I'm .
I want to set a, becausepsychologically, I think
striving for 110 is, right nowfor my, a lot, it's, it's a lot
for me to consume.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's a lot for me to consume right now.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
yeah, so I almost need to kind of give myself a
number that I feel is tangible,if that makes sense For sure.
So I feel like the 100 is stilla goal that's tangible, that I
can still obtain.
And so I was telling her.
I was like yeah, before I kickoff, I want to run at least 100K
a day for this many days, andduring training, I want to at
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least run 100K a day for a week.
I want to see if I can justmentally get that out of the way
and put it under my belt sothat when I do it it's not like
a foreign thing, right?
So when I was saying thesethings, she's like that's wild,
like you're mentioning thesetons of numbers, and I took a
step back and I'm like that iskind of fucking wild.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
That is wild.
Should we do another round?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Let's do it Sweet.
We gotta jump in the heaterthing and then we'll jump in the
van.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got somemore water in my system.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, good call, you got yours right there.
Yeah, we're rolling All right.
You ready for what?
Two minutes, three minutes,what are you doing?
Two, three In the lot.
Next one, we'll do Yo, so youknow what I know is hilarious.
What's up, bro, is that?
(25:20):
For me this is easy, for you alittle harder For me.
Running 60K probably notpossible.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It's possible, but hard as fuck 60 days straight of
it.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I don't know if my body could withstand that.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, not right now.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
No, no.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Over time, though, even past four months running
with you a ton, yeah, improvedquite a bit well, I think also,
man, like, like you said, likeyou've been doing the cold punch
for what?
Four or five years right?
Yeah so it's pretty like Iwatched you jump in at the
beginning.
It was like whatever me?
I was like what the heck?
So like anything else, man, yougot to do it a lot, to get
better and better at it.
So I've been coming here, man,you got to do it a lot to get
(25:55):
better and better at it, so I'vebeen coming here for the last
three weeks.
Yeah, the first time it waslike, yeah, no, second time was
a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
This time around I'm gonna try to put my arms, yeah
put the hands in too, wish slidethem around, but this is what
kevin was talking about.
With the breath work too.
It's crazy how much you canwithstand when you just connect
with your breath too.
Absolutely it becomestherapeutic.
And then it makes sitting inthe sauna kind of nice because
(26:21):
you get to go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, I've already gotten better.
Like last time, I didn't put myhands in.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I've seen an increase , or like improvement, every
single time.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, so if I keep coming, who knows?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Maybe I'll do a Joe Rogan 10 minute.
There we go, does he do?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
10 minutes.
He's done 10 minutes before.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I don't know if he does it regularly, but yeah, I
did a couple minutes in LakeOntario with our Wim Hof stuff
and that was pretty hectic but Ifelt really good, didn't really
have any issues.
That Spartan race felt like afreaking oh, that was rough.
Oh man, I was a hot mess, likeyou could tell I was like that
wasn't good at the end of that,liam and I, five straight hours
(27:00):
just, and your buddies beforeand after us.
It was great, it was it.
That was cool.
That was a first spartan race.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Heck of a first experience I wouldn't call it a
race man, it's more of a like a21 kilometer hike.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, and it ended up being like 24.
Yeah, after, because theydidn't really there we go Hydro
house.
Yeah, I love this spot.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It's cool man.
The vibe's nice here, it'squiet.
It feels like you're almost outin the wilderness Not
wilderness, but outdoors.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
The vibe is cool man.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I think you should tell people what you did on a
daily basis to be able to run60K, because, even just from a
hydration standpoint, peoplehydrate excessively for three,
four days before a marathon andthey're eating a ton, whereas
you had to be up for two monthsso I think like um, obviously,
(28:06):
you know, throughout the yearI'm testing my body training and
trying different things.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
See how they work.
For this sort of two monthperiod I wouldn't really eat the
first few days a week.
I was actually still testingthings out.
So I was eating differentthings and muffins, this, that
and the other, just kind of allthroughout the lunch and I
noticed that was affecting mygut.
(28:32):
A good point, if it was aone-off then it wouldn't have
been that much of an issue.
But every single day it waslike here's a lunge, eat more
after.
So I kind of went back to what Idid for the 22nd marathon,
which was liquid fuel for allthe running.
Essentially what I was doingwas having about 700 milliliters
(29:03):
of water every hour with 200calories of carbs.
So about 50 grams of carbs, 4grams of protein and about 400
milligrams of sodium and thenall the electrolytes in that one
drink every hour and then after.
So I would be running for aboutseven and a half hours of
moving time in and around there.
So you know, after that I'dprobably be.
You know, we're looking atabout 250 calories an hour-ish,
(29:27):
right?
Yeah, so you're looking atabout 1,600 calories after the
run, like during the run, andthen I would just start eating
Succussion food.
Yeah, yeah, and it was achallenge, right.
It was like you know how muchcan you get in after seven and a
half hours yeah, what did yourweight start?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
and then the start at 185.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I ended at 168.
Yeah, yeah, so I'm today.
I was 177.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
so it comes back quick 176.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Uh, probably more.
Like I'm taking on a lot ofwater right now because, like
when you're running, every daythe water's just coming out,
coming out, coming out.
So, like I was trying to, youknow, before I started running
or you know, when I startedrunning I'd weigh myself and I
was trying to maintain that muchweight by the end of the run.
So just taking in that fluidamount, and usually if I was
(30:12):
able to do that I was fine thenext day.
But that wasn't.
My pace wasn't super fast,right?
Yeah, my pace was the pace thatI needed to run so I could do
it any single day.
So my body, honestly, for themost part, after the first week
or two of just getting used tothe workload, adapted yeah, like
at day 20, I was fine for themost part.
(30:34):
What was the hardest day?
Like in which way?
Physically, emotionally, whatdo you think?
I guess both one for each.
I think the first few weeksphysically were hard.
Yeah, because my legs wereadjusting.
I remember one day I went on atreadmill after a day outside
and I meant my quads, my wheels,were mangled, like this.
(30:56):
The pain was pretty significantand so I guess for me, when I
was getting to points of likefeeling like some serious
discomfort.
It's trying to find ways tokind of keep doing it.
So I remember one day I wasrunning and it was into the
(31:17):
night and then I was into thedark now.
So now I'm feeling like freakingnine o'clock at night.
I'm like, um, and I'm doingeverything alone, right.
So it's like really solitary,really boring, right.
(31:38):
And so it means that the nightand the legs are not feeling
good.
So I had an edible edible,probably had about.
I had a 25 milgram edible andif you listen to some of my
older podcasts that I've been on, that was part of my journey.
When I first started running,because I was dealing with so
much anxiety and depression thatI would just to get up to go
(32:00):
run, I kind of needed a clutchand the clutch at that time was
a 25 milligram edible and whatit would do is turn on, just
turn the white noise down.
It wouldn't even get me high.
I would just be able to just go.
So I kind of went back to thatfor that particular moment in
time, and when I was doing thatI still felt the pain.
But then I started trying tofigure out ways to absorb the
(32:23):
pain.
And it sounds weird, but when Iwas in that, when I know, I
know exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I felt that Sunday or Saturday with that.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Spartan, you had to absorb.
So I was trying to find ways toabsorb the pain, but not absorb
it only.
So this is what I was saying tomyself and it sounds crazy, I
don't know if it worked, but itworked that night and I've been
trying to adopt it or trying torecreate that over time.
And so I was feeling all kindsof pain as I was running.
(32:54):
I was on White Rock, runningtowards the beach, on Marine, so
, like you know, around my areaand I'm running and I'm saying
to myself, okay, absorb the pain.
And then I would say fuel.
So I was trying to make theconnection of absorbing it and
using it as fuel and I justrepeated every time I felt pain.
So every step I was like absorbit fuel, absorb it as fuel.
And just repeated every time Ifelt pain.
So every step I was aboutabsorbing fuel, absorbing fuel.
(33:18):
It was kind of kept me almostlike cognitive behavioral
therapy.
I was trying to make theconnection of the pain to keep
me moving.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
How many steps was it ?
60 Ks?
Do you remember what the stepcount was?
I didn't know.
I mean I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Probably 70,000.
Was it about that?
Yeah, yeah, and that was justfor the run, but I was also
doing all the shit today.
So probably around 80,000 in aday, 75,000.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And you shared with me your your 11 or seven, eight,
nine, ten page keynote thatpeople will hear eventually at
some point.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
If you were to condense that into 30, 60, 90
seconds, as we wrap up here atHydro House, how would you
encapsulate what you've beendoing the past four years, what
you're still striving for nextyear?
How would you embody that?
Wrap it all into a 60 secondpitch?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So I think for me it's not so much talking about
what I've done and how it'saccomplished and raw, raw meat
it meat, it's more okay.
What's the wisdom that I'vegotten out of this and how can I
share that with other people.
So for me it's um, if we'redistilling it all down, it's
brain endurance training.
So being able to um and youknow Huberman's talked about it
in various different things andit's a specific part of the
brain that you can develop andgrow over a period of time, but
not only just for physicalactivity.
So I want to be able to sharewith other people.
You don't have to do what I'mdoing, but you can adopt that
(34:41):
brain endurance training foreveryday life.
So, basically, do anything thatyou don't want to do, do it.
So if you don't want to readfive pages tonight, read those
five pages.
If you don't want to have thatdifficult conversation, have
that difficult conversation.
Have that difficultconversation.
Through those things andconstantly, repeatedly doing
that, you're developing thatpart of the brain and when you
develop that part of the brain,it allows you to do those things
(35:01):
with ease or a little biteasier in the future.
So that's my two cents.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Love it.
I know I just listened to the.
I didn't listen to the podcast,but the Joe Rogan Q-Room was
just on it.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
It's not the prefrontal cortex no, I can pull
it out right now, mid singularcortex and interior singular
singular oh shit, it's gonna be.
I'm just gonna get the actualtime.
I'll just watch, I'll justlisten.
It's funny because I've I'vewritten it down, yeah, in my
speech interior and interior midsingular cortex something like
that interior mid singularcortex interior missing.
(35:34):
Let me, but let me get it,let's confirm, because we don't
have G.
You know all powerful journeywith us.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So have you, um, have you looked at psilocybin at all
?
I know that's like a weird wayto suggest like from someone
who's like, but I feel likethere's ton of research on that
from recovery, yeah yeah, ahundred percent.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, um, I actually am considering doing a mushroom
ceremony coming up on the 21st.
Hell, yeah, yeah, I was justlooking at that's so cool, I
asked, but I, uh, I was lookingat it today.
It's pretty intense.
Um, it's like a lot of uh, whatdo you call it?
Introspective work.
(36:17):
It's like with a shaman, yeah,and they sort of guide you
through this whole sort ofmushroom.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I just want to just mention this real quick and I'll
just read this paragraph thatI've written for our keynote
that I'll be doing soon.
It's real quick.
The research on brain endurancetraining is absolutely
fascinating.
Studies show it can improveperformance up to 126 percent
far beyond the games fromphysical training alone.
So what it does is itstrengthens the anterior
(36:48):
cingulate cortex, so that's thepart of the brain which is
involved in perceiving effortand then also maintaining
cognitive control.
So if you're able to engage inthings that you normally
wouldn't want to do or you knowand it doesn't have to be
running 100k or 60k or any ofthose things, anything that's
hard for you, so speaking inpublic, you know all these types
(37:10):
of things cold plunging, um,having that difficult
conversation with a girlfriendor whatever those things if you
engage them not just engage them, but engage them with
enthusiasm it develops that partof the brain.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
So I remember one of the comments on that uh was.
It was like so, if I hate myjob, I should go to my job, and
it was like well, yes, but maybedoing that every single day is
probably not the best thing foryour mental health, but it was
funny you get everything onsocial media comments right.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You know what it comes down to.
It's like how are you framingthe thing that you're going into
?
Yeah, it's just reframingthings.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, in perspective and um, yeah, it's interesting
because, as a serial optimist,when I come into situations and
I think of that, I'm likewouldn't you want to be coming
in with a positive mindset, notsomething hard?
And it's interesting becauseyou could probably apply both
coming with a positive, knowingthat it's going to be difficult,
(38:11):
kind of like Saturday withSpartan.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's exactly it.
So, man, we could have goneinto it thinking this is gonna
suck.
Yeah, holy shit, we got to runfor four hours and 21 kilometers
and it really wasn't a run.
It was a hike for 21k becauseit was about 1700 meters of
vertical gain.
Yeah, so, and the weather wasterrible, like it could have
been really negative.
Or you flip it on its head andsay, yeah, man, we get to, we
(38:38):
get to hang out together.
Yeah, we get to see or supporteach other do this thing.
Yeah, it's going to beuncomfortable, but oh, we're
going to have some stories.
Yeah, so if you just spin itdifferently, it allows you to
engage in it, which allows youto develop that part of the
brain which, over time, theperceiving effort, becomes
easier.
So now, when I'm throwing outnumbers about 100k, this, that
and the other, it's theperceived effort.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I've already kind of dissolved my brain enough to
where I'm like cool yeah notfreaking out about it yeah,
thanks for having us here, manawesome spot man and hey, thank
you folks for tuning in.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
This is the 247th episode of the show featuring
satch laddie, my buddy.
If you want to check out hiswebsite, donate to support his
work, satchinmotionca.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
Hope you have a great rest ofyour week.
We'll see you next week foranother new episode.
Bye.
why I?
I just look at it as like wow,that's, that's incredible.
Like look at what they'rethey're capable of doing.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
That's fair.
That's 100.
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The same as when you're going through your 60k
per day for 60 days and I hadhow many people telling me like
how the heck's this guy doing?
I'm like man, I'm out there for10 of his 60k and he just keeps
chugging along.
He's.
He's no different than you, meyeah, you've just no, that's
right yeah, and it is humblingto see because you yourself are
(00:30):
doing that most people can't dothat right, can't wrap their
head around running 60 yeah, letalone every single day hey,
what's up?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
welcome back to the 247th episode of the athletes
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Today we feature satch laddie.
This summer, he just completed60 kilometers per day in 60 days
.
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What's?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
going on team.
We're here at Hydro House withthe owner, kevin, who's
graciously provided thisenvironment for me and whoever
else we joined to get somerecovery in.
And yeah, like I said, he'sbeen here brand new spot and we
want to support local becausehe's in the local Vancouver area
and so just take it away, kevin, guide us through this sort of
(04:14):
contrast therapy.
What is it and why do we do it?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Wicked, yeah.
So yeah, my name is Kevin andI'm super excited to be with
these guys today.
These athletes at at hydrohouse, uh and uh, yeah, it's
just the best way that I foundto recover, and I'm sure you
know, uh, you guys can attest tothat after after trying the
cold plunge, sure, so why don'tyou just tell us um, really
(04:38):
guide us in.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What are we doing?
Cool, yeah.
What's the system?
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
yeah, so I like to start cold, just like an initial
shock, just to get familiarwith the cold, and then, uh, so
like 30 seconds to one minute,whatever you guys want to do,
there's timers right there.
I usually like to take threebig breaths and on the third
breath I'll I'll hold thatbreath in, step in, sink in, and
as I sink in I'll I'll releasethat exhale.
Fine, it helps because when weget in there it sort of knocks
(05:02):
the wind out of you and thatsort of helps me kind of control
my breathing.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So just to confirm.
So we're going to jump in 30seconds.
We'll do a couple breathsbefore we go in.
Yeah, After the 30 seconds,where do we go?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Right into the sauna Heat up there for 15 minutes and
, yeah, the idea is it gets realhot, hot enough that you're
looking forward to come back inhere.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Nice wood stove sauna .
You know wood burning.
Well, that's the thing I'vebeen.
I've already come here a coupletimes already, and that is
probably one of the bettersaunas I've been in, because it
gets freaking hot.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's almost it's like 100 degrees Celsius.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's awesome, Sounds good All right ready to
rock and roll, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Okay, guys, enjoy how's it going.
How you guys feeling good, I'mexcited for this.
(05:59):
I hope you're timing it he is.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm not used to this.
You're timing it.
He is.
I'm not used to this.
You're Scandinavian probably.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I've been doing cold exposure for probably five years
now.
Yeah, you're a pro.
Wim Hof Lake Ontario.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, you're a pro, not me, looks like it.
Beginner, that's good, let's go.
Experiences for sure.
Well, your lips were blue a bitthere.
I said I was watching, um, whenyou were leaving.
Yeah, you're checking in on me.
Your lips were kind of blue,yeah it was cold.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, it was cold.
We probably, like liam and Iprobably, were shivering from
the halfway, like two and a halftwo hours in, just after that
it was.
It was a long show.
We were not prepared either,like shorts and t-shirt.
Yeah, we, none of us wereprobably prepared yeah but you
know what, sometimes that's the.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Sometimes that's a good thing, because then you can
see what, where the where theroadblock is, or how much you
can do.
Yeah, like, I mean, you likebeing ill prepared, you still
did the whole thing.
Yeah, right, so that's beingill-prepared.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You still did the whole thing.
Yeah, right, so that's prettycool.
Yeah, I think it was.
It goes back to like beforeeven doing a marathon or a half
marathon, you're like I know Ican finish this 10k whether I'm
fueled properly or not, right,you know you can get over those
things and I think the onlyfactor would have been the cold,
because that changes thedynamic, Because you don't.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean 21K, you know, even if you're walking for four
hours you don't need a ton offood.
No, but when you're talkingabout the cold weather, because
it said it was four degrees whenwe got there, but it was well
below that- Because of the rainand hail snow.
Yeah, because like we weredoing elevation too, so we
climbed a bit.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So it had to have dropped under like to zero at
least.
Yeah, the only time it stoppedraining was when it was snowing
and hailing, so it definitelywas cold and just to have that
five hours soaking wet no funfor anyone.
Uh, this woman actuallymessaged me afterwards who she
works for.
Lulu, her and her 18 year oldson completed it and I couldn't
get over the fact that everyonewho was up on that mountain that
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day is gonna remember that andremember how difficult it was
and have that as a memory good,bad or ugly.
Where were they from?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
local, I'm pretty sure she was was it the woman
that and her son that wassitting next to me?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think they knew you .
That's why she was hitting me.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Okay, so yeah yeah, so she, I was sitting next, so
she works for lulu.
Yeah, oh, I don't know that,I'm pretty sure.
No, when I was talking to her,um, I was just telling her.
They were just talking, andthen I shared what I was doing,
what I was planning to do, andthey just got all excited, yeah,
and then um, but I was talkingto the kid.
He just turned 18, yeah, andthey live in North Vancouver,
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okay, and he's training to do afull try.
No, at 18, and his mom, they'vedone marathons and halves
before, so they're they'refairly fair, you know.
So I was like, hey, man,whenever I'm in North Vancouver,
let's go for a run, and um, butthey were super nice, they, the
whole family, started followingme.
Heck, yeah, so it was like theyounger brothers and all that
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kind of stuff.
So, yeah, it's interestingbecause they were with.
They were right in front of uswhen we started.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Remember the tall people that were right, okay, I
think it was them, and theycrushed it in three hours.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, they're animals , they, they were savage.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I can't get over it.
I could have gone faster.
Liam and I were talking aboutit.
I definitely could have, but itwas also like you're trying to
do this as a team.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Going through it.
I'm also using it as anelevation experience.
I am glad I didn't go harderbecause it would have.
Yeah, at the end my everythingwas tight seizing up.
Also, the cold weather does nothelp.
Then you're doing obstacles,lifting your hamstring.
You're like just praying thatit doesn't snap on you.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It was scary well, I think um the mother daughter
team or the mother-son team.
I suspect I didn't ask them.
I suspect they didn't do theobstacles.
No, yeah, because to do thatwhole thing in three hours and
the obstacles would have beenlike.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well, I'm pretty.
What do you do?
We know the final stats fromthe competitive field Because
they did everything.
The competitive field.
There were people out therethat did the 50K.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, I know, they did it twice.
I had it afield.
There were people out therethat did the 50K.
Yeah, I know they did it twice.
No, I think they had to.
I can't remember who was sayingit.
If they didn't make it by acertain time, they were going to
cut it Right Because of theweather and safety reasons.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, but yeah no there were people out there
doing it.
That was humbling when you weregetting lapped by guys who were
on their second no I.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
If actually so, why does it?
Why do you think it's humbling?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
for me as a young 20 something individual that still
has the ego there, you're likesure man, this human being who I
should theoretically be able tocompete.
Why?
Because I'm I work hard.
Theoretically, okay,theoretically I like I work hard
, I do a lot of stuff, I trainat different modalities.
(11:10):
Sure, I'm like I would like tothink that if you pulled someone
you know hunger game style 1v1,I'm gonna fare pretty well
again for sure, for sure, forsure so then when I see what's
possible, I'm like damn, likethat's humbling, because I think
I, I there's no reason Icouldn't be there, and I know
I'm not there, right now so.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I want to identify how to get there, sure, so I
think so.
For me it's not humbling.
For me, I understand thedifference of modalities.
So, for example, maybe if weasked one of those guys how long
they've been training for thisevent and they said three years
or two years or a year nonstop,would that make you feel better.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Not really.
That's the difference.
I'm like I just I've only beenrunning for four, five, six
months.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Okay, so sure.
So then can you run 60kilometers in 60 days?
So it's the same thing.
I've been training for fouryears to do that.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
I've been training for fouryears to do that three years.
These guys have been trainingfor so long.
So I think maybe to think thatyou can do something that you
haven't trained for it would belike saying can you get into the
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Olympics, do you feel bad?
Is that humbling?
Because I look at it the sameway.
I don't see them as any morespecial than me.
They've trained in a specificmodality for a number of years
it would be.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I think it would be same humbling if I was at a
track meet and I go to high jumpagainst someone and really,
really, yeah, man, like I wantto compete with everyone, I
don't care who it is, I'm acompetitor, right like so for me
.
I'm like ah, damn, that's thegap.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Okay, fair, that's fair.
Do you do anything about thatgap then?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
If I wanted to go to the Olympics for high jump, I
would start.
I did it with running or I'mdoing it with running.
Right now I'm doing it withweightlifting, with my body?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I don't know, man, I think you're being hard on
yourself.
I really do.
I'm extremely hard on yourself.
Yeah, I really do, I'm, I'mextremely hard on myself I used
to be like that too.
Yeah, and I think I, aftergetting spanked so many times in
various different areas, I waslike what is wrong with me?
Why do I suck?
Yeah, and then I just figuredout they've been doing it way
longer, that's it yeah, which isfine.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
but I mean, okay, they've.
They've had more time on thisearth, they've trained longer,
that's fine.
Maybe they're focused on thatspecific thing.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Sure, whatever the case may be, okay, sure, sure.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
But for me I'm like that.
Just because they've beentraining for 10 years longer
doesn't mean for me that's not agood enough reason to not try
and pursue something.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Do your best in the moment.
Yeah, that's fine, I agree withthat.
Do your best in the moment.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, not try and jump seven meters, right,
because I won't hit it, but dothe best in that moment, okay.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
So I maybe understand better now.
So the humbling is not so muchmore of like a negative feeling,
but rather like oh, oh, man,there are people out there that
are amazing.
Yeah, that's what you mean.
Yeah, okay, so I misunderstoodyeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
No, that's fair, because for me that's, that's
the podcast, right, that's 240people.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That shows how messed up I am.
I'm like humbling why I?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I just look at it as like wow, that's, that's
incredible.
Like look at what they'rethey're capable of doing that's
fair.
That's fair, 100 that's fairthe same as when you're going
through your 60k per day for 60days and I had how many people
telling me like how the heck'sthis guy doing?
I'm like man, I'm out there for10 of his 60k and he just keeps
chugging along.
He's.
(14:39):
He's no different than you, me,yeah you've just no, that's
right yeah, and it is humblingto see because you yourself are
doing that Most people can't dothat right, can't wrap their
head around running 60, letalone every single day.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean that's a fair point, because now that I
reflect because I've had a bitof time to reflect, right, it's
been a couple of weeks, it'sbeen a couple of weeks right of
time to reflect, right, it'sbeen a couple weeks, it's been a
couple weeks right and um, it'sum, I still can't believe it,
to be honest, like I still can'tbelieve I've gone from where I
was to where I am now, in aboutthree and a half years, and it's
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like wild man.
It's wild what a person can doand achieve in a short period of
time, like three, four yearsit's not a long time In a short
period of time, which is hardwork and conviction.
And I think so when I reflectback I'm like I just did that.
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It's like a trip.
Yeah, like it's a trip, and nowI'm already on to the next sort
of phase.
So I'm not sure if I'll fullybe able to process the 60.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
What was the funds raised?
Let's talk about, like, duringthat 60 days.
You spoke at a couple differentevents.
You were able to impactthousands of people through
social media.
Most memorable moments you gotsick also like halfway through.
That didn't help things.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
No, the first two weeks for sure were tough.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, just figuring out a routine, just getting out
of my own head, because that wasreally the longest you'd ever
gone that distance.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You had done 40 for 40, basically last year right,
no, no, I did 22 marathons and22 consecutive days across the
province.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right, so a better marathon being 40.
So 42 kilometers.
Right, so that's like 40 perday, yeah, so you know, you
upped that by about 20, so I did, um, so in 22 days.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I did, uh, just over a thousand kilometers in 60 days
at 3600.
So you know, yeah, about thatpercentage, what you're saying,
and um, yeah, those first twoweeks were hard, man.
And why was it hard?
It was like figuring out how todo it, like I trained, but how
to organize my life around it,because last year when I ran
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across the province, it was, uh,I'm across the province, I,
that's what I'm doing, like I'mstuck out here, I gotta do it
right, whereas this time aroundI was here, I was still taking
care of my responsibilities,still, um, you know, I was here.
It was, you know, getting pulledin different directions and
different things happening, andso I think this was hard in a
(17:28):
different way.
Um, in the first two weeks itwas really a struggle because I
was in my head and I was kind ofpaying attention to social
media a bit and, um, just, youknow, I don't want people to
think I was too slow or this,that, like, all these different
things are going through my head, right.
And then there were times where, you know, like, on weekends
(17:49):
I'm with my daughter, so I, youknow, have to find times where
to run, either before or aftershe's gone, or when she's asleep
, or so.
I didn't have a treadmill whenI first started, so I'm like
this is gonna be hard, like howI'm gonna manage all of this
right doing it all on pavementand then, uh, fortunately for me
, I went for a run with a buddyof mine, uh, and his wife at you
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know, one of the days.
They wanted to join me for a bitof it and I was at campbell
valley park and just talkingabout what's going on and you
know some of the struggles andwhatnot and like a week later
they swung by my house anddropped off on a treadmill, whoa
Like, and I was like it was abit of a joke.
I was like this is the firsttime in my life I was happy to
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see a treadmill Like it was.
I was emotional.
It was an emotional thing forme because how I looked at it
was like they're helping mebecome the person I need to be.
They're helping facilitate that.
The running is just cool andall that, but it's everything
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else.
So once I got the treadmill Iput it right next to my bed and
then things became a little biteasier to organize, to manage
time, to do all the differentthings and then so it was kind
of I don't want to say easy, butsmooth sailing for a couple
three weeks.
(19:19):
And then once I got to about twoweeks out I think it was about
two, two and a half weeks,something around that I ended up
getting sick, so then ended upgetting a sinus infection and
where everything was in my lungs.
So I'm coughing up phlegm whileI'm running.
Honestly, you can almost stillkind of hear the bit of it now.
It's just kind of here and it'sstill affecting me now because
I can't hear it.
In my right ear.
I still got tons of fluidbuildup from the sinuses.
So I actually went to thedoctor yesterday.
(19:40):
I was like I thought it wasgoing to go away, yeah, but I
was like man, this is like goingon like a month and a bit, I'm
like I need to do something.
So the doctor's like he gave mesome basic stuff, nothing crazy
, some flownase and, um, youknow, get some stuff to rinse
out my nose and my sinuses.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
He's probably like hold off on the 60k for 60 days
after that too I didn't well, sohe's, so he's.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
He's been my doctor, uh, from the beginning, so he
knew what my plan was, so he'sbeen integrated into the process
and what did he thinkoriginally?
well, I told him I was gonna runacross canada that was the
original plan, which is stillkind of happening and, uh, he's
like okay, and he was cool man,he was like okay, so let's get
some tests done to see whereyou're at right now, to see if
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you're able to yeah, you know,um, and then after each time
we'll kind of test you out, seewhere your blood work is at,
where your body's at, if it'sgoing to be.
He wanted to check before Istarted everything.
He checked my heart.
He wanted to make sure my heartwasn't messed up nice with from
all you know from previousworkouts, and so he can at least
have a baseline to see wherethe cardiac my heart is, if
there's any thickness inanywhere or anything like that,
(20:43):
right.
So we covered those bases.
And he was also very helpfulwhen I he was the one who
diagnosed me with my majordepressive disorder, right,
because I was doing he was mydoctor doing work, all that
stuff.
So, yeah, he's, so, yeah, he's.
And I saw him yesterday and hewas happy.
He was like man, good for you,and he's a younger guy, he's not
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an older guy.
He's probably like in his 30s,nice, and so he's and he's a
really he's a generalpractitioner, but he's really
one of his passions is mentalhealth, so he's kind of in that
space, so to speak.
Yeah, so, anyways, to answeryour question, he he was cool,
right, um, but yeah, like the,the last couple weeks were
challenged in that way but, yeah, speaking like I've, I still
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was maintaining all theobligations.
So the number one obligationwas my daughter.
So with her a couple times aweek, taking her to soccer,
taking her to camps, all thatkind of stuff, and then, um,
public speaking, I was stilldoing that, I was still doing
podcasts.
So, like I remember one day Iwas like maybe a couple weeks
before I was done or 10 daysbefore I was doing a podcast in,
uh, it was in surrey somewherethe brown, the brown boys
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podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
We were, we were running right before and yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
So we were going for that run.
It was the uh, modern brownboys.
It still hasn't been releasedyet, but yeah, I'm on the run.
I'm like, hey man, I gotta goon the podcast.
So I did everything, finishedthe 60 and then went to do a
podcast and then, uh, but Ithink this was a good.
I mean, this was a goodtraining grounds for me too, man
, just being able to manage allthe different things.
I was never good at that before, so it was a good opportunity
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to like figure out how to manageeverything.
And also, I don't want to bearound uh, I didn't want to not
be around my daughter for thatmuch time.
Yeah, because I will be nextyear, right.
So I wanted to pick when thatwould be.
Yeah, and I thought this wouldbe a training block.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So, whatever training block yeah, and that, uh, that
treadmill saved you because youwere doing half your 30 out of
60 out on that and that wasamazing sort of for training
Cause like uh, you know,whenever I could do it, I'd do
it.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I was using it like for recovery in that sort of way
, right, like, so, like let'ssay, for example, I ran 30
outside during the day, or let'ssay 40 or whatever it was, and
then I'd make the second portionor the last bit as a recovery
protocol.
So now we're cooling down, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Now we're taking tons more water and we're just doing
a half marathon to cool down,you know.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
That's freaking nuts, isn't it Like now that I I mean
it's fucking crazy man Like toeven say that, like I was
talking to.
I was at the gym today and Iwas leaving and I ran into one
of my old physiotherapists fromway back in the day and she's
been tracking and we were justtalking about this stuff and I
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was just talking about leadingup what I want to do for next
year, how I want to preparemyself mentally, and I was
throwing out these numbers, andshe's like fuck, it's wild, like
you're just throwing thesenumbers out, like it's like,
like it's normal well, and sheprobably saw you or knows you as
a bodybuilder too, right sheknew me as a bodybuilder.
So she's like what?
Yeah, because I was, because mygoal is to run at least 100k a
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day while I'm running acrosscanada, right?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
isn't the record 105k per day current record.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, so I'm, but I'm .
I want to set a, becausepsychologically, I think
striving for 110 is, right nowfor my, a lot, it's, it's a lot
for me to consume.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's a lot for me to consume right now.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
yeah, so I almost need to kind of give myself a
number that I feel is tangible,if that makes sense For sure.
So I feel like the 100 is stilla goal that's tangible, that I
can still obtain.
And so I was telling her.
I was like yeah, before I kickoff, I want to run at least 100K
a day for this many days, andduring training, I want to at
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least run 100K a day for a week.
I want to see if I can justmentally get that out of the way
and put it under my belt sothat when I do it it's not like
a foreign thing, right?
So when I was saying thesethings, she's like that's wild,
like you're mentioning thesetons of numbers, and I took a
step back and I'm like that iskind of fucking wild.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
That is wild.
Should we do another round?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Let's do it Sweet.
We gotta jump in the heaterthing and then we'll jump in the
van.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got somemore water in my system.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, good call, you got yours right there.
Yeah, we're rolling All right.
You ready for what?
Two minutes, three minutes,what are you doing?
Two, three In the lot.
Next one, we'll do Yo, so youknow what I know is hilarious.
What's up, bro, is that?
(25:20):
For me this is easy, for you alittle harder For me.
Running 60K probably notpossible.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It's possible, but hard as fuck 60 days straight of
it.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I don't know if my body could withstand that.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, not right now.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
No, no.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Over time, though, even past four months running
with you a ton, yeah, improvedquite a bit well, I think also,
man, like, like you said, likeyou've been doing the cold punch
for what?
Four or five years right?
Yeah so it's pretty like Iwatched you jump in at the
beginning.
It was like whatever me?
I was like what the heck?
So like anything else, man, yougot to do it a lot, to get
better and better at it.
So I've been coming here, man,you got to do it a lot to get
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better and better at it, so I'vebeen coming here for the last
three weeks.
Yeah, the first time it waslike, yeah, no, second time was
a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
This time around I'm gonna try to put my arms, yeah
put the hands in too, wish slidethem around, but this is what
kevin was talking about.
With the breath work too.
It's crazy how much you canwithstand when you just connect
with your breath too.
Absolutely it becomestherapeutic.
And then it makes sitting inthe sauna kind of nice because
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you get to go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, I've already gotten better.
Like last time, I didn't put myhands in.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I've seen an increase , or like improvement, every
single time.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, so if I keep coming, who knows?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Maybe I'll do a Joe Rogan 10 minute.
There we go, does he do?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
10 minutes.
He's done 10 minutes before.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I don't know if he does it regularly, but yeah, I
did a couple minutes in LakeOntario with our Wim Hof stuff
and that was pretty hectic but Ifelt really good, didn't really
have any issues.
That Spartan race felt like afreaking oh, that was rough.
Oh man, I was a hot mess, likeyou could tell I was like that
wasn't good at the end of that,liam and I, five straight hours
(27:00):
just, and your buddies beforeand after us.
It was great, it was it.
That was cool.
That was a first spartan race.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Heck of a first experience I wouldn't call it a
race man, it's more of a like a21 kilometer hike.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, and it ended up being like 24.
Yeah, after, because theydidn't really there we go Hydro
house.
Yeah, I love this spot.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It's cool man.
The vibe's nice here, it'squiet.
It feels like you're almost outin the wilderness Not
wilderness, but outdoors.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
The vibe is cool man.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I think you should tell people what you did on a
daily basis to be able to run60K, because, even just from a
hydration standpoint, peoplehydrate excessively for three,
four days before a marathon andthey're eating a ton, whereas
you had to be up for two monthsso I think like um, obviously,
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you know, throughout the yearI'm testing my body training and
trying different things.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
See how they work.
For this sort of two monthperiod I wouldn't really eat the
first few days a week.
I was actually still testingthings out.
So I was eating differentthings and muffins, this, that
and the other, just kind of allthroughout the lunch and I
noticed that was affecting mygut.
(28:32):
A good point, if it was aone-off then it wouldn't have
been that much of an issue.
But every single day it waslike here's a lunge, eat more
after.
So I kind of went back to what Idid for the 22nd marathon,
which was liquid fuel for allthe running.
Essentially what I was doingwas having about 700 milliliters
(29:03):
of water every hour with 200calories of carbs.
So about 50 grams of carbs, 4grams of protein and about 400
milligrams of sodium and thenall the electrolytes in that one
drink every hour and then after.
So I would be running for aboutseven and a half hours of
moving time in and around there.
So you know, after that I'dprobably be.
You know, we're looking atabout 250 calories an hour-ish,
(29:27):
right?
Yeah, so you're looking atabout 1,600 calories after the
run, like during the run, andthen I would just start eating
Succussion food.
Yeah, yeah, and it was achallenge, right.
It was like you know how muchcan you get in after seven and a
half hours yeah, what did yourweight start?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
and then the start at 185.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I ended at 168.
Yeah, yeah, so I'm today.
I was 177.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
so it comes back quick 176.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Uh, probably more.
Like I'm taking on a lot ofwater right now because, like
when you're running, every daythe water's just coming out,
coming out, coming out.
So, like I was trying to, youknow, before I started running
or you know, when I startedrunning I'd weigh myself and I
was trying to maintain that muchweight by the end of the run.
So just taking in that fluidamount, and usually if I was
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able to do that I was fine thenext day.
But that wasn't.
My pace wasn't super fast,right?
Yeah, my pace was the pace thatI needed to run so I could do
it any single day.
So my body, honestly, for themost part, after the first week
or two of just getting used tothe workload, adapted yeah, like
at day 20, I was fine for themost part.
(30:34):
What was the hardest day?
Like in which way?
Physically, emotionally, whatdo you think?
I guess both one for each.
I think the first few weeksphysically were hard.
Yeah, because my legs wereadjusting.
I remember one day I went on atreadmill after a day outside
and I meant my quads, my wheels,were mangled, like this.
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The pain was pretty significantand so I guess for me, when I
was getting to points of likefeeling like some serious
discomfort.
It's trying to find ways tokind of keep doing it.
So I remember one day I wasrunning and it was into the
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night and then I was into thedark now.
So now I'm feeling like freakingnine o'clock at night.
I'm like, um, and I'm doingeverything alone, right.
So it's like really solitary,really boring, right.
(31:38):
And so it means that the nightand the legs are not feeling
good.
So I had an edible edible,probably had about.
I had a 25 milgram edible andif you listen to some of my
older podcasts that I've been on, that was part of my journey.
When I first started running,because I was dealing with so
much anxiety and depression thatI would just to get up to go
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run, I kind of needed a clutchand the clutch at that time was
a 25 milligram edible and whatit would do is turn on, just
turn the white noise down.
It wouldn't even get me high.
I would just be able to just go.
So I kind of went back to thatfor that particular moment in
time, and when I was doing thatI still felt the pain.
But then I started trying tofigure out ways to absorb the
(32:23):
pain.
And it sounds weird, but when Iwas in that, when I know, I
know exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I felt that Sunday or Saturday with that.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Spartan, you had to absorb.
So I was trying to find ways toabsorb the pain, but not absorb
it only.
So this is what I was saying tomyself and it sounds crazy, I
don't know if it worked, but itworked that night and I've been
trying to adopt it or trying torecreate that over time.
And so I was feeling all kindsof pain as I was running.
(32:54):
I was on White Rock, runningtowards the beach, on Marine, so
, like you know, around my areaand I'm running and I'm saying
to myself, okay, absorb the pain.
And then I would say fuel.
So I was trying to make theconnection of absorbing it and
using it as fuel and I justrepeated every time I felt pain.
So every step I was like absorbit fuel, absorb it as fuel.
And just repeated every time Ifelt pain.
So every step I was aboutabsorbing fuel, absorbing fuel.
(33:18):
It was kind of kept me almostlike cognitive behavioral
therapy.
I was trying to make theconnection of the pain to keep
me moving.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
How many steps was it ?
60 Ks?
Do you remember what the stepcount was?
I didn't know.
I mean I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Probably 70,000.
Was it about that?
Yeah, yeah, and that was justfor the run, but I was also
doing all the shit today.
So probably around 80,000 in aday, 75,000.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And you shared with me your your 11 or seven, eight,
nine, ten page keynote thatpeople will hear eventually at
some point.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
If you were to condense that into 30, 60, 90
seconds, as we wrap up here atHydro House, how would you
encapsulate what you've beendoing the past four years, what
you're still striving for nextyear?
How would you embody that?
Wrap it all into a 60 secondpitch?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So I think for me it's not so much talking about
what I've done and how it'saccomplished and raw, raw meat
it meat, it's more okay.
What's the wisdom that I'vegotten out of this and how can I
share that with other people.
So for me it's um, if we'redistilling it all down, it's
brain endurance training.
So being able to um and youknow Huberman's talked about it
in various different things andit's a specific part of the
brain that you can develop andgrow over a period of time, but
not only just for physicalactivity.
So I want to be able to sharewith other people.
You don't have to do what I'mdoing, but you can adopt that
(34:41):
brain endurance training foreveryday life.
So, basically, do anything thatyou don't want to do, do it.
So if you don't want to readfive pages tonight, read those
five pages.
If you don't want to have thatdifficult conversation, have
that difficult conversation.
Have that difficultconversation.
Through those things andconstantly, repeatedly doing
that, you're developing thatpart of the brain and when you
develop that part of the brain,it allows you to do those things
(35:01):
with ease or a little biteasier in the future.
So that's my two cents.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Love it.
I know I just listened to the.
I didn't listen to the podcast,but the Joe Rogan Q-Room was
just on it.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
It's not the prefrontal cortex no, I can pull
it out right now, mid singularcortex and interior singular
singular oh shit, it's gonna be.
I'm just gonna get the actualtime.
I'll just watch, I'll justlisten.
It's funny because I've I'vewritten it down, yeah, in my
speech interior and interior midsingular cortex something like
that interior mid singularcortex interior missing.
(35:34):
Let me, but let me get it,let's confirm, because we don't
have G.
You know all powerful journeywith us.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So have you, um, have you looked at psilocybin at all
?
I know that's like a weird wayto suggest like from someone
who's like, but I feel likethere's ton of research on that
from recovery, yeah yeah, ahundred percent.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, um, I actually am considering doing a mushroom
ceremony coming up on the 21st.
Hell, yeah, yeah, I was justlooking at that's so cool, I
asked, but I, uh, I was lookingat it today.
It's pretty intense.
Um, it's like a lot of uh, whatdo you call it?
Introspective work.
(36:17):
It's like with a shaman, yeah,and they sort of guide you
through this whole sort ofmushroom.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I just want to just mention this real quick and I'll
just read this paragraph thatI've written for our keynote
that I'll be doing soon.
It's real quick.
The research on brain endurancetraining is absolutely
fascinating.
Studies show it can improveperformance up to 126 percent
far beyond the games fromphysical training alone.
So what it does is itstrengthens the anterior
(36:48):
cingulate cortex, so that's thepart of the brain which is
involved in perceiving effortand then also maintaining
cognitive control.
So if you're able to engage inthings that you normally
wouldn't want to do or you knowand it doesn't have to be
running 100k or 60k or any ofthose things, anything that's
hard for you, so speaking inpublic, you know all these types
(37:10):
of things cold plunging, um,having that difficult
conversation with a girlfriendor whatever those things if you
engage them not just engage them, but engage them with
enthusiasm it develops that partof the brain.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
So I remember one of the comments on that uh was.
It was like so, if I hate myjob, I should go to my job, and
it was like well, yes, but maybedoing that every single day is
probably not the best thing foryour mental health, but it was
funny you get everything onsocial media comments right.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You know what it comes down to.
It's like how are you framingthe thing that you're going into
?
Yeah, it's just reframingthings.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, in perspective and um, yeah, it's interesting
because, as a serial optimist,when I come into situations and
I think of that, I'm likewouldn't you want to be coming
in with a positive mindset, notsomething hard?
And it's interesting becauseyou could probably apply both
coming with a positive, knowingthat it's going to be difficult,
(38:11):
kind of like Saturday withSpartan.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's exactly it.
So, man, we could have goneinto it thinking this is gonna
suck.
Yeah, holy shit, we got to runfor four hours and 21 kilometers
and it really wasn't a run.
It was a hike for 21k becauseit was about 1700 meters of
vertical gain.
Yeah, so, and the weather wasterrible, like it could have
been really negative.
Or you flip it on its head andsay, yeah, man, we get to, we
(38:38):
get to hang out together.
Yeah, we get to see or supporteach other do this thing.
Yeah, it's going to beuncomfortable, but oh, we're
going to have some stories.
Yeah, so if you just spin itdifferently, it allows you to
engage in it, which allows youto develop that part of the
brain which, over time, theperceiving effort, becomes
easier.
So now, when I'm throwing outnumbers about 100k, this, that
and the other, it's theperceived effort.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I've already kind of dissolved my brain enough to
where I'm like cool yeah notfreaking out about it yeah,
thanks for having us here, manawesome spot man and hey, thank
you folks for tuning in.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
This is the 247th episode of the show featuring
satch laddie, my buddy.
If you want to check out hiswebsite, donate to support his
work, satchinmotionca.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
Hope you have a great rest ofyour week.
We'll see you next week foranother new episode.
Bye.
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