Wyatt Moss: 50 States Marathon Challenge - #250 - The Athletes Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And then as well, every single day.
I try my best.
As long as I do that, then thisnext year is great.
That's the Misogi it's like.
Can I make today the greatestday ever?
Because, if today is, thegreatest day ever.
It'll be the greatest week ever, the greatest month, the
greatest year, the greatestdecade, the greatest life, and
that's what I want to live.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
If you guys didn't already know, this is the 250th
episode of the Athletes Podcasttoday, featuring Wyatt Moss, one
of the many men that I aminspired by every single day,
particularly with his ability torun a marathon every single
week Basically 50 marathonsacross 50 states during the year

(00:40):
of 2024, who's now runningseven marathons in seven days
across seven differentcontinents?
Can you believe this?
I can, mainly because I alsomyself did a marathon this past
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So so, without further ado,let's get to the man that is
Wyatt Moss and learn more abouthis story.
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Athletes Podcast, wyatt Moss.
This is the 250th episode ofthe show and today we are
celebrating the individual whocompleted 50 marathons in 50
states.
What the heck are we talkingabout here today, wyatt Moss?
How the heck were you able toaccomplish this?
What the heck's going on?
Thanks for coming on the show,man.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, I don't even know.
I think at the start of theyear it was just a crazy thing.
I was like, all right, let mejust go see if I can do it.
And it still hasn't hit me thatlike, oh, we did that.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, just casually.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
A month ago was almost a month ago, was number
50 in Hawaii, and so, comingfresh off of it, still it's
going to take me like two orthree years to process.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Like wow, but you documented the whole.
Thing.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, so that's actually.
I posted about my story lastnight.
I've been like a lot hashappened since I finished number
50.
And so then there's been likethis weird like like I haven't
been able to do the recap but aswell, like I'm having to
transition to this next seriesat the same time, and then

(03:13):
there's certain things I have todo for the next series that
like I have lowered engagementand stuff like that.
So like all right, um, when Iposted last night my story, I
was like I'm just going to cuteverything, just get back to the
roots and do the 50 daydayrecap and then, while I'm
leading up to this next series,the seven continents in seven
days.
So it's a storm over here.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, but it's a storm that's brewing and you
seem to be gaining a ton ofmomentum.
Obviously, just from the socialmedia stats alone, you go from
like 10K to 100 plus K.
But how's the body feeling?
Because I run.
I ran the toronto waterfrontmarathon.
I was at october and it took melike a couple weeks to recover

(03:52):
from that.
And you're doing this date likeevery week for a year straight.
Dude, like tell me what theheck you were doing.
Was it ketone, iq all day,every day, or what?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
so I do take two of them at the start of every race.
There were some where I didn'ttake them just to compare times
or think that.
Others where I, like you know,only took ketones, um and like.
We can get into that in just asecond.
But body's holding up, anklesare the main like pinch point.
I guess my Achilles on my rightfoot was really messed up over

(04:23):
the summer.
Both of my ankles, all thetendons surrounding them, are
not necessarily the strongestright now, so that's the only
thing that I'm worried aboutgoing into this next year.
I think I'm still going to runlike 24 marathons this year.
So and that's the thing thatwas like you know, it sounds
crazy to say that, right, and itis a little bit crazy, but at

(04:44):
the same time, you have peoplewho are training to run their
first marathon, who are doing 20mile runs during their training
, week after week, and so is itreally that crazy to run an
extra six miles If you thinkabout it, like you'll do a
training run for 18 miles thenext day, you'll do like three
or four, maybe one or two afterthat, like that's a marathon
over three days.
So it's a little bit differentto do it all at once, week after

(05:08):
week, but I do think that morepeople have it in them than they
, you know, would like tobelieve.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
It took me.
I started training reallyheavily in May, did a half
marathon in July and then didthe full in October and, like to
your point, you know, you do acouple of those training
sessions that are a littlelonger.
It's basically nearing amarathon.
I have a buddy, uh, satchLottie, here in BC who's been
running, or who was running amarathon a day for 40 days
straight.

(05:35):
Uh, he's training to run crossCanada this year, which will be
like 67 kilometers a day orsomething crazy for you
Americans down there.
A little less than the miles,but, yeah, ridiculous numbers.
And I try and wrap my headaround these feats because I've
talked to 250 plus incrediblehuman beings, high performers,
athletes, and, to your point,the body becomes accustomed and

(05:59):
is resilient.
But, dude, you're only 22, 23.
You're a young buck.
Do you worry about what thebody is going to look like 10
years from now?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I think this is the time to do it.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
If I did it down the road.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think there would definitely be a lot more
injuries and everything likethat.
Right now is the time where Iactually have the ability to
recover week after week.
So maybe it's not the case thateveryone could run one every
single week for an entire year,but there's a lady who's like I
think she's 67 over in, I think,germany or something like that
who just ran a marathon everyday for all of 2024.

(06:33):
I see that and I'm like allright, it's possible.
I think everyone can get there.
I really do believe, though, itcomes down to that mindset of am
I willing to start?
And then as well, like, what?
What length am I going to giveup?
Or like, give myself an excuse?
So you know it's, you go onthis path and you're training

(06:55):
for something, and thensomething happens like, oh man,
I injured my foot.
Are you going to let that takehold of your story, or are you
going to like, not let yourselffall to an excuse and keep
moving forward?
It's like, despite thishappening, I'm still going to
figure out a way.
I think that's what gets mostpeople, because this, you know,
67 years old, running a marathonevery day for an entire year,

(07:18):
that's crazy.
I can probably push through thepain that I'm in and strengthen
it, get back on the field,everything like that.
So wait, let's just circle backreal quick.
Congratulations on 250 episodesonce a week for five years is
incredible.
That is something that no onegets past the first episode.
A lot of people don't even everstart press record.
The fact that you startedrecording this podcast before

(07:41):
podcasting was really big.
That's huge.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Thank you, thank you.
I think, I was probably aroundyour age when I was starting
this thing and I wasn't runninga marathon per week, but I did
realize that building acommunity, building a network,
scaling communication skills areall going to be beneficial long
term.
You and I both have the benefitof being younger individuals.
So to your point, point as youbuild, lay that foundation.

(08:06):
You know, 5, 10, 15 years downthe road we're going to be doing
some pretty damn incrediblethings right and it's going to
be exciting as you see theprogress.
You know, a couple weeks ago wehad aaron routliff on who's
number two tennis player in theworld uh, in the doubles
category.
And you know we had her on fouryears prior and she was her
goal to become top 40.
Two years later she did that.
Two years later she's top twowas number one at one point.

(08:29):
And it's like those are thecool things that you get to see
over time, the progressions yearover year.
Even myself, physically, fiveyears ago I couldn't run five
minutes and now we run a 354marathon and hopefully sub 330.
At some point Maybe we'll haveto connect.
What was your favorite marathonover the 50 States?

(08:49):
I mean you slept outside thestart line of Missoula.
You were ripping through a rackof ribs.
One marathon, Omaha overalls,what?
What was the most memorable foryou?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
New York city is the cop-out answer, because you know
, the largest marathon in theworld.
I didn't have a race entry fourdays out.
Somehow got in and then, youknow, got to start with the
first 25 runners of the race.
So then, out of 50,000 people,I'm there running through the
streets, you know, with anOlympic runner, alexi Pappas,
for an hour and a half with noone there.

(09:17):
And then I got to saw like, orI got to see everyone run past
me.
So, uh, probably about half ofthe runners ran past because the
day before I was running inMaryland.
So that was a double like aback-to-back weekend Toast,
toast.
So I ran like a five-hourmarathon for New York City and
you know, a lot of people likewill see that and be like oh man

(09:40):
, you should.
You know, if you're running 50marathons, you should be going
sub-3 by now.
One of the phrases that I'vebeen using is that it's not the
time, it's the distance.
So if you go run a marathon,props to you.
1% of the world ever does it.
Less than 1% of the worldprobably does it, but 1% of
Americans wherever it is.
So just to even get started andthen to do the distance put in

(10:02):
the volume.
That's something to be proud of.
And that one was really fun.
I utah was probably the mostbeautiful.
I'll be going back this year.
There's like a series of fourdownhill marathons and I'm
talking through with the racedirectors we might have
something cooking.
Let's produce some type ofchallenge with all four of those
.
Um, just revels the company.

(10:23):
So I would recommend doing adownhill race because, as well,
it is a lot more fun.
You get to cruise downhillthrough a canyon of some
mountains, you get to see thesunrise when you're at the peak
and everything like that.
It's absolutely crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
We filmed an episode on the side of a mountain in
Utah with Tommy Lawley, abaseball player, one of my
buddies who I billeted with.
He was actually playing.
I was the intern down at theCorvallis Knights in the West
Coast Baseball League.
I was trying to remember whatthat mountain was Snowbead, snow
Valley, something like that.
Anyway, sick view, utah, superunderrated Zion Park

(10:59):
unbelievable, one of the mostincredible places in the world.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
That's the thing that most people don't understand
about the US.
If you live up in the Northeastbecause a large part of the
population lives on the EastCoast or West Coast, everywhere
in between is just absolutelybeautiful.
No one understands that we haveevery continent, a taste of
every continent, inside of theUnited States, and I think it's

(11:26):
just really cool to live in acountry where we literally are
like a fourth of the world.
Yeah, you know, with ourpopulation being so low, like I
don't know, we really have itgood here because there's not
too many people everywhere allthe time.
There's incredible likearchitecture.
There's incredible places tovisit.
So any type of 50 StatesChallenge like that's incredible
places to visit.
So any type of 50 stateschallenge that like that's my

(11:47):
long-term brand.
Uh, I won't be doing runningcontent all the time.
I might try to do some type oflike iron man challenge in the
future, maybe try to compete atiwc if I can get to that level
of training.
But uh, I want to transitionaway from just always being so
focused on like the marathonsafter this year to just being
focused on 50 states and thenthat's the brand.

(12:09):
I'm still doing physicalchallenges, but the brand that
carries on moving forward islike.
Every year, I'll take on a 50states challenge.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, did I hear on a previous podcast you talking
about dating.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I did my research.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh man, I mean, I don't want to give up like yeah,
you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
You don't have to if you don't want to, you know that
, but then as well.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I don't want to give up too many details about why I
went into that, but basically,like I've just realized this
year that I just really want tobuild this life with someone and
I've gotten close a coupletimes and there's definitely
some heartache Going into thenext season of life.
I know I can't do it alone andso I want to have a wife.
I want to find someone to buildthis with, because I don't

(12:53):
think it's worth getting to theend of my life and then just hey
, I've got all theseaccomplishments.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You don't want to share it with.
Yeah, I want to share it withsomeone.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
So to share it with someone, so I think that's above
all else, like that's the most.
You know that my relationshipwith god that's number one and
then right below that is likefinding someone, uh, to live
life with.
Like those are the mainpriorities right now dude I I
love your mission.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Um, I heard you talk about you started this last year
as a goal, that you wantedsomething to change you, and one
of the quotes that you'vereferred back to is whatever it
takes, wherever it takes me,yeah, I'm grateful to be able to
share your story here on theshow, here today.
Kick off the new year 2025 theright way you talk about sharing

(13:40):
it with someone.
I drove from Toronto to L la uhwith our old producer.
We recorded 40 episodes, youknow, ripping through nashville,
colorado, utah, nevada, etc.
Like amazing experience did.
La up to vancouver, up thecoast.
We recorded, like I said,probably 50 episodes total.
Being able to share it withsomeone and with others is the
greatest experience.

(14:01):
I've heard you talk about it.
You know you don't want peopleto share whatever your page is.
You want them to talk aboutWyatt Moss and what makes you
special and how you're able toenact change.
And I think what's been uniquefor me over the past couple
years talking with individualslike yourself is that everyone
has a certain goal in mind or acertain mission.

(14:23):
People seem to be I don't wantto say pushing towards, but
there seems to be a movementtowards God and religion and
there is definitely momentum inthat space.
Can you tell me about yourrelationship with God?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, well, I think if you want to set up your life
to pursue something, that's thestart right.
So then, like I think, anythingworthwhile, you have a goal in
mind, you set out to accomplishit, and then that makes you feel
good in root, right Once you'vefinished it.
You know I've done this 50states thing, right, but am I?
I'm different as a person, I'vechanged, but am I striving for

(15:01):
anything?
Right now that's in my mind,like the meaning that you find
in life is in pursuit ofsomething right, and so the
greatest meaning that you couldpursue is something that's like
you know we can go through thecharacteristics something that's
bigger than yourself, right,it's something that's worthy of
you know we can go through thecharacteristics something that's
bigger than yourself, right,it's something that's worthy of
you know pursuing.
And then it's something that'slike takes faith, a massive leap

(15:24):
of faith, to pursue, becauseyou know, if I knew that I could
accomplish this goal.
A good buddy of mine is like ifit's a goal you know you can
accomplish, it's just a task onthe checklist, you know it's.
If you can check it offtomorrow, like you know you can
do that, it's not a goal ofyours.
A goal has to make it, um,something that makes you pursue
it.
You know you're not, you're notworthy of it, yet Getting on
this journey, pursuing it, makesyou worthy of that goal.

(15:47):
Um, so then, if you like, outof all these different
characteristics and you know Idon't really have them listed
out, but like just this idea ofwhat is the perfect goal to
pursue I think ultimately it'dbe a relationship with something
greater than yourself.
And so then, you know, pursuingthe relationship with your wife
is great, but like what?
When you know this life is over, what happens after that?

(16:10):
I just feel like there's gottabe something beyond.
And so for me, I believe in,you know, jesus Christ.
When people say, like, who isJesus?
Like that's for me, that's likethe.
I got to live my life that way.
One day, when, wherever I go,if it's heaven, if it's whatever
happens after this, like I haveno idea, right.

(16:34):
But when I meet this person God,this being, whatever this
concept is I'm like all right,lord, I've lived out my life to
glorify you.
How did I do?
And then he's like great job,good and faithful servant.
You know, that's all I want.
It's like I've done a good jobliving out my life trying to
glorify God.
That's the driving force.
And then here's the cool partit's like that's the ultimate
motivation, right?
So I no longer have to wake upand find the motivation for
myself.

(16:54):
You know, when you have kidsyou know I'm just making an
assumption here, but when youhave kids, like you have all the
motivation in the world to getup because you have human life
that's connected to you right.
And so there's all thesedifferent things that like, oh,
if you have a job, there'smotivation there, and maybe you
get unmotivated but it's like,well, there's your life,
whatever it is.
If, if you set up your lifelike trying to find these

(17:19):
earthly sources of motivation, Ifeel like you always fall, fall
a little bit short.
but if you're always like allright, lord, like I'm living for
you, this is not for this world, this is for you, know, god and
his kingdom.
Then there's just an ultimatesource of motivation.
And then people like I had tochange my uh, the background on
my phone.
Uh, because I.

(17:39):
People would ask me like, whydid you take on this challenge?
And for me it's like this hasbeen a way to strengthen my
relationship with God, whereit's like this is a massive
undertaking, 22 years old, howam I going to find the strength
to do this?
How am I going to find thefinances?
You know, will I be able topull it off by myself and edit
all the videos or whatever it is?
And so people would ask me like, why did you take on this

(18:00):
challenge?
I wanted a challenge so bigthat I could become better.
And it would always be like mecaving down just to say that
because I just want to pacifythe answer, I had to change it
to this oh, you can't see it.
I wanted a challenge so big itwould only be possible with God,

(18:21):
and that stems from, like, adevotion that my mentor gave me
last year in November.
It was like, um, when you don'thave the guts to take on a
massive endeavor, then you'renot opening up the floor to give
the glory to God.
The 50 States marathonchallenge was only possible
because God's hand was on it andas long as I'm giving the glory
back up to him, opportunitieswill open up that I never could
have foreseen, you know.
And yeah, that's where theseven continents thing comes in.

(18:42):
Like three days after Ifinished the 50 States marathon
challenge, this massiveundertaking, I'm still trying to
figure out how to followthrough on it, pay off the debt,
everything like that.
The door opens to somethingI've been wanting to do for the
past three years.
So where the whole 50, you know, the 50 brands started back in

(19:04):
2021.
I dropped out of college, Ididn't.
I wanted something to do as,like a source of meaning.
So I got to my buddies togetherand the three of us planned a
trip to all 50 States.
We did a road trip 50 States in50 days and like that was just
another story of like, justbelieve in it, in that purpose,
purpose, and like, all right,lord, I'm just going to take a
step into the, you know, intothe unknown.
But like that whole chain ofcommand led up to doing this 50

(19:25):
States Marathon Challenge.
Back then we had the idea forthe seven continents.
It literally says it on theInstagram post.
You know, if you want to seeall the Polaroid photos on my
Instagram in the description,it's like next up, seven
continents in seven days.
And that was three years ago.
And so then to be here, it'slike this whole year has just
been like a you know, reallylike so many obstacles that

(19:47):
would get in the way.
Who knows how it was possible.
There's only one way.
It's gotta be God putting hishand on this challenge.
And then, as soon as I finished, the door opens up to this next
thing.
And not that like that's howGod works, like, oh, you believe
in me, I'll give you this.
That's not it at all.
It's just like I'm just goingto keep moving forward on the
path that I think is God's pathfor me, and as long as I'm

(20:08):
taking one step at a time, likeand just believing that I, lord,
I have the faith that this isthe path that you want me to be
on.
Teach me your will, all thesedifferent things, new doors will
open and I will live a life sogreat that it couldn't have been
me that pulled it off.
It had to be God keeping hishand on the trajectory that I
took and that's that's where Iam right now Like seven

(20:30):
continents is insane.
You know this trip costs $44,000.
What are the odds that, likethe company Kitsune IQ that I've
been using this whole year,like I reached out to them and
48 hours later they're like yeah, we want to sponsor this series
because you know you're theperfect uh brand ambassador for
Kitsune IQ.
We're going to drop 44 grand onthis trip because we believe in

(20:51):
you.
You know, there's just there'stoo much to happen for this to
be me.
It's gotta be God.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
There's just there's too much to happen.
For this to be me.
It's got to be god.
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Let's get back to the episode.
So cool to hear and I lovehearing the passion in your
voice too.
Shout out to Michael Brandtfrom Ketone IQ.
He deserves a little shout out.

(21:38):
He sent us some products when Iwas down in Cape Cod with a
bunch of buddies Dom Fusco,bobby Ryan, a couple of those
other gents and we were crushingketones during our runs.
I wasn't running much back then.
The boys were chirping me aboutit as the old guy, but they
worked and they were fun to use.
It was the first time messingaround with ketones.
But yeah, the only reason Iasked the God question is

(22:02):
because I'm hearing your contentcoming up like crazy Mind Pump
Media.
Sal DiStefano is a huge advocatefor following religion,
especially young men, who maybedon't have the necessary
guidance or you know pillarsthat they're trying to focus on.
But then I've also got MichaelSmoke from Higher Up Wellness
that's right in Atlanta with you, who's also doing courses

(22:25):
weekly with other young men, andI'm like, okay, clearly there
is a shift in society now to atleast being aware of religion
and maybe it comes from theoverabundance that we have in
society now of just all theextra random stuff.
Like I was having thisconversation with my mom a
couple weeks ago over christmasand it's like christmas used to
be the time when you got thosegifts that you really needed or

(22:46):
that were, you know, practicaland that would bring you so much
joy because you couldn't get itotherwise, whereas now it feels
like in society we maybe areaccustomed to getting everything
we want.
Amazon you get an order, itcomes within a day or two would
be a prime, and it feels like insociety we maybe are accustomed
to getting everything we want.
Amazon you get an order, itcomes within a day or two via
Prime, and it's like we don'thave delayed gratification
anymore and we don't have thatwillingness to put in time
effort without seeing thatresult immediately.

(23:08):
I feel like that's consistentwith what you just messaged over
the past five minutes referringto your relationship there.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, there's definitely a push there, because
when you have everything in theworld, then that's not a good
story.
What I've learned this pastyear and a year ago, right
before I decided to take on thischallenge I have to live my
life for the story, because thebest pursuit is in pursuit of a
goal.
My life is going to be a story.

(23:36):
If I want to live out a greatlife, I have to treat my life
like a story.
Well, a good story hasobstacles along the way that you
overcome.
When you have everything andthen there's no, no longer like
an opportunity to face risk orgo out there and do something in
the unknown, then it's nolonger a compelling story.
So I feel like people aremoving towards God because, like
they're searching for meaningsomewhere and, you know, if

(23:58):
they're not willing to go outthere and like take on the
adventure of a lifetime, yetthey're looking for something to
give them the confidence to godo that.
And for a lot of people it'slike for me, you know, it's like
all right, lord, I can't dothis by myself, but I'm just
going to step out there and you,you know, trust that this is
what you want me to do with mylife and I constantly pray this

(24:20):
prayer.
I'm like all of last year.
I was like, alright, lord,teach me your will for my life,
use me as an instrument for yourwill.
And that was just why,constantly and saying right.
And then this year the prayerhas been or God, teach me to
rely on you.
And so that it makes sense thatthis whole year I've been penny
pinching to get through thischallenge.
Because if, let's say, I had asponsor that paid for the whole

(24:42):
thing up front or along the wayor whatever it was, would I be
relying on God?
I'd be robbing the opportunityto trust in him.
And you know, as I pray thesethings, like I have to
understand that, oh, you knowsomeone's listening as I pray
these things, like I have tounderstand that, oh, you know
someone's listening.
You're not like the challengehappened week by week, barely
several different like finallast moment things, different

(25:05):
categories financially or, uh,like signups for a race, like
New York city, or, you know,catching a flight or whatever it
is.
Like so many of these lastminute things happened in
different categories.
That like, okay, god's teachingme to rely on him in every
circumstance.
Okay, and then, now that I havethat down like I don't know
what's next.
I don't know what the prayer isfor this year, but yeah, it's

(25:26):
just it's interesting to like.
That's where the, the, theworld is moving.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I think it's good I'll tell you how it's gonna
finish one foot in front of theother yeah, one step at a time
yeah, if I knew the end.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
If I knew what was next, like that would take away
that opportunity.
Right, it's got a.
There's a phrase in the biblewhere it's like that daily bread
.
What does that mean?
It's not like you're eatingfood every day, it's that like,
okay, every day I'm gonna giveyou, you know this, is god
saying this?
God's gonna give me just enoughto get through this this next
day, because if I had the nextmonth, then there's no need for

(25:59):
God.
Oh, I'm good and I'm coveredfor the next month.
I love how this conversationlike has turned in.
Like thank you for giving methis opportunity to talk through
my relationship with God,because it's something that I'm
still trying to work throughright now.
I have a lot of things up in theunknown, but I have just seen
in my life like my mom has beenpraying over me for my whole

(26:20):
life because just unfortunatethings have happened in my life.
I lost my dad when I was six.
She was not a believer.
Like growing up she was, andthen she turned away.
She actually went to college tokind of disprove the faith.
She was like looking intodifferent religions and
everything like that.
And then, when she was 40 yearsold, my dad passed away and
she's like, uh, just distraughtbecause this is, you know, her

(26:43):
person.
Um, it was bad for me at sixyears old.
It was terrible for her.
Um, she just decided that shehad to turn to something greater
than herself, because shecouldn't get through that
circumstance, losing her husbandalone.
And so that's where God came inand, like, ever since, she's
been praying over me, and Ithink that's the only reason why

(27:04):
I am the man I am today isbecause I'm just clear on things
.
I just like I know I've got mompraying over me and like
together we can talk throughthings.
You know, we can actually pray.
These things are not weirdwithin our family.
It's okay to talk with a beingthat doesn't exist in the
physical world and it's like, ah, you know what is this whole

(27:25):
concept of God?
Like we're comfortable talkingthrough that together and like
asking questions and not havingto have answers and just, yeah,
I'm so grateful for her.
Um, I don't know how we got onthat whole thread, but no dude,
I yo.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm like I said.
I'm also grateful for you beingable to articulate this,
because most 22 year olds aren'table to, you know, expand on
their thoughts other than, yeah,I pray, I go to church once a
week and like no-transcript.

(28:23):
But for me, I'm like I see whatyou've been able to accomplish,
especially over this past year.
I'm excited for what you havemoving forward.
What is your Masoge?
You look like.
Are you putting those together?
Is that the seven continents?
Seven days?
Is it a bigger, more grandioseidea?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I mean for this next year.
I would say maintenance is thename of the game, so my misogyny
isn't a year-long event.
There'll be a lot of thingsthat I get to do this year.
I'll probably do some type of50-state series.
I'll go to all seven continents.
I'm going to try to run amarathon every day for seven
days during that series.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's going to be very difficult.
That'll be crazy.
Hey, you're going to becrushing ketones for breakfast,
lunch and dinner.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Exactly Um, and then after that, like there's seven
world majors, you know, I'lltake on that challenge, maybe
this year, you know that's thegoal, but then all these
different achievements.
I think it's easy to always seekthat next challenge.
What I want to do is focus myMasogi this year on the daily

(29:24):
maintenance.
Can I make sure that I'mbuilding what I'm building?
No, can I make sure that I'mproud of what I'm building and
the way that I'm building it?
Nick Bear said this.
He's like I got hit by a carthe other day, if you saw this
on his Instagram and I askedmyself the question am I proud
of what I'm building?
He's like yes, but I need to beproud of the way that I'm

(29:46):
building it.
You know he's got a daughterand he's.
You know he got a wife and allthese different things.
And well, he can build whateverit is that he wants to do.
He can achieve whatever hewants to do Sub two, 40 marathon
, 500 pound deadlift, whateverit is.
You know a million dollars onthe black Friday sale for BPN,
which is crazy, in like 30minutes.

(30:07):
The opening, like a milliondollars in revenue in 30 minutes
.
It's just absurd.
He can achieve any of thesethings, but none of it matters
If he doesn't have that dailymaintenance down.
He doesn't get to live his lifewith his child and his wife.
So, then, I like the way hesets up his life in that
perspective and I'm going toadopt that this year.
All right, am I proud of the waythat I'm building it?
Well, am I keeping a record ofall the lessons I've learned

(30:29):
throughout this whole challenge,or this whole year, or this
whole process?
Yes, I started last year doingit once.
Every couple of days, I wouldjust record a YouTube video 10
to 15 minutes long of like whatwas going through my mind at
that time.
Didn't have to be like anupdate or anything like that.
It could just be like metalking with the camera, and so
now I get to go back and viewmyself in the past.

(30:50):
I get to relive those momentsand, like, really enjoy it.
I'm proud of that, right?
Am I proud of, like, the, thestyle of videos that I'm putting
out, or the amount of effortthat I'm putting in?
There was a video that I sawthat Ryan holiday posts all the
time about, uh, jimmy Carter,the president he had just passed
away but about how he wasgetting interviewed when he was,

(31:12):
you know, going to college, um,his first job out of college.
The interviewer asked him, um,about all these things that he
did and Jimmy Carter was tellinghim everything and he's like
but did you try your best?
And then Jimmy had to say, no,I didn't.
Um, or it didn't answer thequestion or whatever it was, and
the interviewer walked out ofthe room and he's haunted, but

(31:33):
like, that's what I want to beable to say is like all right,
you know, I kept the maintenanceitems together, I was able to
hold my family together, whilealso pursuing this dream.
My responses were never rash.
I kept a record online that wayI could go back and watch it.
And then as well, I, everysingle day, I tried my best.
As long as I do that, then thisnext year is great.

(31:53):
That's the Masogi it's like.
Can I make today the greatestday ever?
Because if today, is thegreatest day ever.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
It'll be the greatest week ever, the greatest month
the greatest year, the greatestdecade, the greatest life, and
that's what I want to live.
It's going to be a cool storyto be able to share along the
way.
Dude, you're giving me chillsright now, man.
It is like I was at that lastpodcast that I was listening to.
I gotta pull it up here, givethem a shout out too, because

(32:19):
they did a good job, life instride.
They did a fantastic job andyou know they started their
episode.
They're like it's 10 out of 10day, 10 out of 10 morning.
It's a great day, greatest dayto be alive, and, uh, it's that
perspective that we need to besharing more of out into society
.
Like the biggest blessing iswhen you wake up in the morning
and you didn't have anyone elsearound you pass away either.

(32:41):
So grateful to A, be availableand have everything in my body
working properly, and then Beveryone around you supporting
you still there.
Once you got that covered,you're pretty, gucci.
You've been creating content forfour years.
You ran 50 marathons in onlythree pairs of shoes.

(33:02):
This past year.
We got to get you a shoesponsor man, new Balance.
Maybe they can hook you up withsome stuff.
How were you able to accomplishthat and I want to stack this
Were you wearing those sameshoes while you were sleeping
outside of your Mississippi,sleeping in the car, sleeping
outside of your other events,because that's a couple

(33:23):
different times.
You were sleeping on the startline, dude.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, missoula, I slept at the start line, that's
in Montana and then PortlandOregon.
It was a double marathonweekend.
I slept in the airport and thenI slept in the car 13 times
throughout the challenge.
Like I would.
I literally would drive fivehours up to Northern Michigan,
you know, pull into a Michiganwhatever university is up there

(33:49):
Northern Michigan university andlike at three in the morning,
get woken up by a cop that'slike hey, you can't sleep, sleep
in your car in this parking lot.
They thought it was like a bombthreat or something.
You know they're like sendingtheir sirens over and like not
sirens, like allowed, the lightswere on, so I woke up in a haze
.
Um, so yeah, like I don't know,that was all been pretty crazy.

(34:11):
Wearing the shoes, you know, youcan kind of see them, there's
one pair right there.
Oh yeah, the camera might goover that way.
Yeah, right there, there'sthree pairs of shoes.
The idea behind it is I onlyhad enough money to spend on the
necessary things.
Well, these shoes aren't wornthrough yet.
I could probably get a couplemore miles out of them.

(34:32):
So the first time that I did itI was like they like they're
good for, like you know 500miles.
I can probably stretch it to750.
And so then, you know, that wasthe first 18 marathons of the
year, and you're not supposed torun more than one marathon in a
pair of shoes.
And I ran 18, like, uh, youknow, I think that's just like
an advisory thing because youhave ultra runners, but what are

(34:54):
they going going to do?
They're going to go out thereand run what?
50 miles as a training run 18times before the.
You know.
Uh, what's his name?
um, andy glaze had 18 or 20pairs of shoes last year yeah,
but he ran like 9 000 miles orsomething like that, or 5 600,
whatever it was um, and so thenhe ran like three times as many.

(35:15):
you know, maybe I could havegotten like five to 10 pairs of
shoes throughout the year, but Idon't know like I was able to
pull it off with three, so youknow, it also goes to show like,
if I can run a marathon in all50 States with only three pairs
of shoes, you have no excuse toget out there with you know,
whatever pair of shoes you haveon your feet.
The thing is, you just have toget started.
I had a pair of shoes that waslike so bad they're over there,

(35:38):
um, like no support whatsoever.
My ankles were just destroyed,and so I had to find like a new
pair to start doing marathontraining.
There is like that side ofthings you want to make sure
it's the right pair of shoes Idon't think you need like alpha
flies to go sub three.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
You know some guy did it barefoot in like the 1980s,
so like it's possible yeah,that's 15 minutes, 15 minutes
barefoot yeah, yeah, that's theperspective we need every single
morning to wake up with me likeman yo.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Let's just come to terms with this I mean there's,
there's no shortage of excuses,right, but there only needs to
be one reason.
Just have one compelling reasonto get out of bed in the
morning and take today on as allright.
This is it.
That's all you need.
Don't look for all of themotivation or the perfect
conditions.
Just whatever it takes, pull itoff, whatever it takes and

(36:29):
wherever it takes me.
There's another question Fouryears of content.
Yeah, I started making content.
Like I posted my first TikTokever when I was in my senior
year of high school and it got 6million views in like a week.
It's like holy cow, because Ifound a glitch in the algorithm

(36:50):
where, if you like, swipe up anddown on your video.
It got more views.
So I got my mom's phone and mysister's phone and I sat there
for like two hours just doingthat with both my hands and then
that's what got the first videoto go viral Cause, you know,
10,000 views that night and thenthe next morning at 600,000, I
was like, oh my gosh, itactually worked.
So like it's crazy that thiswhatever happens in the social

(37:11):
media career all started from aglitch in the algorithm.
If that was the only compellingreason, like early conditions
are everything right, so makesure that you can find some way
to succeed at the very beginning, because if that's the only
motivation that I had to docontent, it just planted a seed.
And then, you know, I went tocollege.
I tried that route.
I was living on a couch for twomonths in a foreign country.

(37:33):
I went to school in Londonbecause I just applied on a whim
.
I'm just like that type of guy.
I'm just going to.
You know why not?
I'm just going to apply to thisand see what happens.
It was actually less expensivethan the school that I wanted to
go to in the US.
I was like, okay, I'm going togo over there for school
Incredible life experience.
I was there for two monthsliving on a couch.
Shout out to my buddy Jack forletting me stay on his couch for

(37:54):
way too long while I was tryingto find roommates.
And then I flew back home anddropped out of college because I
just absolutely failed out,even though I would like to say
I'm a smart guy.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, can confirm.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, thank you, thank you.
And so then the seed that wasplanted a year earlier came back
.
It was November, a year afterthis video did really well.
I was back home and my buddieswho never went to college were
down in Athens and I was likeall right, y'all like um, let's
link up, like, let's just dosomething you know, and so the
idea was just like to getstarted with social media.

(38:26):
Now, that took forever to get towhere we are today.
And, uh, you know, there werelike a hundred videos, literally
a hundred videos that we filmed, that never got posted, that I
edited and everything like that.
Just, you know, or maybeprobably like 90% of them, I
didn't even begin to edit them,I just like set up the whole
video process, filmed it, paidfor everything and then never

(38:47):
edited or posted it.
So then you could argue thatlike this could have happened
three years ago if I actuallywould stay on top of the content
, and the name of the game thisyear was like all right, if I
run a marathon every single week, that's an impressive
achievement.
It gives me enough time to putout content every single week.
One or two videos a week.
People will like the story.
I had no intention of it, youknow, reaching the heights that

(39:10):
it has, but just the honesteffort of showing up every week
and then learning from thatBecause it's easy to like.
I saw this one guy had posted avideo every day about him
running and hadn't seen thegrowth that he was looking for.
But you know, you got to keepin mind that the barrier to
entry to post a video of yourunning is low, right, people

(39:31):
want to see something that'svery high barrier to entry
because there's unlimitedcontent out there.
So for for this piece ofcontent to be worthwhile for me
to watch, you know I want it tobe a super compelling hook.
And then after that I want youto be really good at
storytelling, really good audioediting's, good visual.
You know very good shots likevisually and all these things
together that takes four years,five years.

(39:52):
Most people just aren't willingto learn every single small
lesson along the way to get tothat spot.
But once you do that you canhave that overnight explode,
Explosion.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Got to embrace the suck sometimes, you know.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Exactly yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Again that delayed gratification not something that
everyone in our day or ourgeneration is accustomed to, but
running provides you with thatdiscipline that I don't know if
there's any other form ofexercise that gives that same
kind of result, I don't know it.
It's because the barrier center, like you just throw on a pair
of shoes and you go like youdon't have to jump in a pool
swim, you don't have to go findweights, you don't have to go

(40:30):
find your plyometric bar,whatever, like bike, like right,
like it's.
That's what I love about it.
And you don't need a 300 pair,300 pair of alpha flies to get
started either.
You can literally, like I runin my vivo barefoot shoes, I
will run in runners, whateverright, you can do it all.
Maybe not running a marathon inthose barefoots, but there's
the ability to do so and maybethat is maybe that's a challenge

(40:51):
.
We should do one barefoot.
Why would do that.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I've seen about five people this year running
barefoot for a marathon.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, which is wild?
Is it hygienic?
Hygienic?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Well, I mean, the thing I'm worried about is like
is it going to wear through thebottom of your sole?
The bottom of your foot.
I think a lot of people willput like a sticker on the bottom
of their foot and so then it'skind of like you know us, like
uh, I don't even know how todescribe it, but it keeps their
feet protected from the pavement.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, just some type of surface.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, I my feet, like I was robbed at birth.
You know I'm six.
You know I'm very grateful thatI'm six feet tall, right shoot
dang yeah day-to-day.
You got flippers eh that's whatI'm saying and like.
So I should be seven feet tall,but you know I'm not.
I'm not necessarily sad aboutthat, but anyways, the?

(41:43):
Um, my feet.
I have fallen arches because myfeet are so big, so like I have
to.
Maybe it's not because of that,maybe it's just because of
inadequate training.
I don't want to put a reason toit.
Um, without actually studyingthe, you know the cards, but
like that's, the problem thatI'm facing, going into this
seven continents is like, um, Igotta figure out how to tape my
feet and get soles and thecorrect shoes, because my ankles

(42:06):
have been hurting this wholeyear.
Um, after you know, I'll runone marathon, I'll be fine, but
then I'll run another one andlike that's when it starts
hurting um.
The fastest ones I've run havedefinitely been after I get a
new pair of shoes, so they'relike that is a fair point that
maybe I should have beenswitching them out more often I.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I was, uh, I was very grateful new balance hooked me
up with some gear over the pastfew months when I was preparing
for the marathon and I, uh,could tell the difference once
you throw on a nice new pair ofshoes and a wide foot.
For me, I've got wide feet, sothat was a big one.
I don't have size 15 feet.
That'll make the dating showreally cool, but I'm definitely

(42:45):
in need of just diversifying theathletic abilities.
Right, like running for me overthe past year was big.
Now it's trying to add a bitmore size.
But I'm also playing a ton ofhockey, I'm playing golf.
There's layers to what you'vedone and been able to do with
your stories that I'm nowthinking.
I'm like, how am I going to addthat to my content creation
journey?
What I'm going to be doing nextpursuits and I can't think of

(43:10):
someone who does it in a morepositive manner than you do.
On social too, which I reallyappreciate.
Can you tell me what it waslike doing it with your
grandmother?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, Pushing her in the wheelchair.
Yeah, I mean I wish I couldhave pushed her for like the
entire race.
Yeah, I'm definitely lookingfor some type of race where I
get to do that.
Right now she does have the flu, so you know, wouldn't be
anytime soon.
We got to make sure that Nana'shealthy and doesn't get too
cold.
That was one of the reasons whywe decided in the end to not

(43:41):
push her for the entire race wasthat, like I couldn't find a
wheelchair in Hawaii that would,you know, be one suited to push
her for the entire thing.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
But mom and.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
I were.
We went to Lowe's and, like wewere, you know, finding like
this car.
And then we went to Walmart wehad this, uh, like this seat
that you know you would put inthe car like a car seat, um,
together those two things andlike a drill, we were going to
make this thing that we couldpull Nana for the entire race.
And then the issue that thefinal thing that came to my mind
is like what if she getsdehydrated?

(44:20):
You know, this could actuallybe very unhealthy for Nana to go
out there and do.
It's got to be like an overcastday where it's not too cold to
be able to pull her, becauseshe's 91.
Right, so then, but you know,nonetheless, like she was able
to wait at the start line forthe final hour of the race, get
to see everyone running by, andthen I got to push her for you
know that last half mile, whichwas incredible and I was just

(44:40):
sobbing at that point.
You know, the whole marathon Igot to run with some friends of
mine um, isabel, lexi and thenLizzie all three of them are
running, running contentcreators, um, over in Utah, and
so then that was incredible,that last like 30 minutes as I'm
running through those finallike two, three miles and then
the final like five minutespushing Nana, just absolutely
sobbing.
But I think it was a great youknow end to the challenge and

(45:02):
that was the goal ultimately wasto bring her to Hawaii.
She had been to 49 statesthroughout her lifetime.
So reaching number 50 for theHonolulu, getting to cross the
finish line with me for my 50thmarathon for the Honolulu,
getting to cross the finish linewith me for my 50th marathon, I
think that made the wholechallenge so much more special,
or whatever the word that I'mlooking for is so much more
incredible, so I'm grateful thatI had the opportunity to do

(45:26):
that.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
The other thing you mentioned there is the variables
at play and, like I'm so gladyou got that opportunity.
I know it wasn't the full 26miles but that you were looking
for, but nonetheless the effortwas there.
She probably appreciated it asmuch as that full one and didn't
have to go through five hoursof misery, whatever that would
have been.
But um that I think that youknow your ability to connect

(45:48):
with people and make sure thatthey know you're doing it for
your purpose.
Like I think it's importantalso just to highlight you went
into debt doing this.
You took out a loan.
I know you're doing it for yourpurpose.
I think it's important alsojust to highlight you went into
debt doing this.
You took out a loan.
I know you don't want to talkabout it too much because there
was.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I just don't want to encourage people to do that when
they don't have the four yearsbuilding up to that, Because it
was a very big risk to go intodebt.
It actually.
I went into debt at the startof the year because I was a very
big risk to go into debt.
And actually I went into debtat the start of the year because
I was like all right, I havethese first six months.
I don't know how I'm going tomake money, but I need to get
started now.

(46:24):
And so then, instead of waitingtill the end of the year which
would have been smarter I waslike all right, I'll just go
into debt now.
Well then, come July, I ran outof money and I was over-indexed
on debt, so I was not able togo into more debt to pull off
the challenge.
And that's where I was likeokay, let me bootstrap the rest
of this challenge, Because theoriginal plan with woodworking

(46:45):
didn't work out as well as Ithought it would have.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
So, yeah, Dude, I think it's a testament to you.
Just figuring out, you find away to make it work right
whatever it takes and whereverit takes me uh, most memorable
marathon, and I add some contextbecause I did a spartan race up

(47:09):
on big white mountain here inbc.
It was pouring rain.
The only time it stoppedraining was in it snow and
hailing and miserable.
Part of the race was running upthe ski lift which I've heard
you talk about on some of yourprevious ones.
So I'd love to hear yourcraziest marathon experience
over these 50.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Craziest experience over the 50?
I would say the one in NewMexico, because I flew into
Denver, you know, about fourhour five hour drive North of
where the marathon was supposedto be at midnight, and so I had
to drive from midnight until youknow seven in the morning,
right before the race started,cause I was sleeping along the

(47:48):
way in my car, uh, the rentalcar.
That was crazy because westarted out the race in New
Mexico.
It was a trail marathon at aski resort over the summer, so,
and there were, like you know, acouple, uh what's, it's like
eight stations, maybe like fivethroughout the entire thing, but
not like it was a very big race.

(48:09):
I think there was like ahundred people or less running.
So that was crazy because westarted out and it went straight
uphill.
You know, the first mile we'relike going up this mountain, um,
I think it had like 4,000,5,000 feet of elevation gain
over the course of the entirething, which that's crazy.
Most marathons are like five to800 feet of elevation gain.
And so by the time that I madeit to this you know, mile 24, my

(48:32):
ankles started hurting because,like that started flaring up.
That was over the summer whenthe Achilles was really hurt.
I actually had to take my shoeoff and put it in my foot into
the like ice coldwhatchamacallit um river.
That was like right there, justbecause it hurts so bad.
And so I was like limpingthrough to mile 25.
And then I get there to the aidstation and or whatever, it was

(48:53):
24, 25.
And they're like, yeah, thefinal stretch is up this, this
uh portion right here.
And so I look up, it's a skilift and like there's no one
running People are just likehiking up this, like sludging up
this mountain one step at atime, um, so the sun is beaten
down and it's just so hotoutside and like, um, it

(49:13):
literally felt like MountEverest.
And yeah, that was the mostdifficult marathon of the entire
year, like the wildestexperience, because it turned
out to be like 27 or 28 miles.
So you get to mile 26 andyou're like, oh my gosh, like
I'm still on top of thismountain.
I have to go run down it to getthe finishing metal.
And the metal was just like alittle piece of wood on like a,

(49:36):
like a cord.
It wasn't anything crazy, butthat was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
So our spartan race was super similar.
Uh ended up being a couplekilometers longer than the
originally anticipated halfmarathon and you want to know to
boot what was worse.
You at least got a medal.
We didn't even get our medals.
There were people dropping outfrom hypothermia.
It was crazy, it was wild, uh.
But again, you're strongerafter those experiences, as long

(50:02):
as you survive them.
It's like you.
You can't literally giveyourself any more adversity.
And like manufacturingadversity I think is something
that you talked about kids likeI'm almost feeling like when I
have kids, I I'm going to haveto manufacture that adversity
for them, and that's what I'mtrying to do now.
Even like going through mytwenties, it's you need to
manufacture that adversity, eventhough you know we're going

(50:23):
through that.
We're both living with ourparents.
It is what it is, but there'sexternal ways you can
manufacture that as well to makelife maybe not so comfortable,
because, as we talked aboutearlier, comfort can be a little
scary.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
It also when you create adversity or obstacles to
overcome.
It opens up the mind to formthe creative circuits.
So then you know that's areally valuable thing that you
could give your children,because now they become, you
know, more dynamic thinkers whenthey're older, better
communicators, problem solversand who wouldn't want that for
their children?
But the difficult part is, likeyou want the skills you got to

(50:55):
put them through the obstaclesthat will form those skills, and
most people are too helicopterparent to want to go through
that.
Um, you just have to have theguts to put your kids through
those difficult challenges.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
The amount of confidence that comes from
running a marathon, like thework that's put in and then
afterwards, I can't evendescribe how much more confident
I was as a human being.
I can't even imagine what youfeel like after doing 50 in a
year.
Was there anything that you didduring those marathons or prior

(51:29):
to?
Were you listening to readingbooks, podcasts, to get
inspiration, to stay motivated?
Was there anything like thatLike for me?
Listened to the Confident Mindby Nate Zinser.
I was driving across Canadafrom Montreal to Calgary half
marathon.
That book was amazing.
Obviously, david Goggins' storynever hurt.
I know you've got his cellphone, we won't make you call
him right now, but there'scertain things that people use

(51:51):
as fuel.
Was there something for you andmaybe we'll talk about
nutrition afterwards but likefuel, from a motivation, podcast
, book standpoint, what were youdoing?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
The.
I talked about this a littlebit in the documentary They'll
be coming out soon.
Um it, it's taken us a while toedit it, just because you know
it's me and Becca who just had ababy.
So like that's the producer andthe filmer and everything like
that editor is Becca and she'sjust this incredible woman.
But anyways, um, in thedocumentary we talked through,
um, how like the motivation forme it was that I set my life up

(52:24):
to do content right Social mediaand I, up until this point, I
had not succeeded yet.
And so for me to not succeed atthe 50 States marathon
challenge meant that I failed atthe one thing that I've set my
life up to do, and so that wasall the motivation I needed.
I was like the dream is nolonger a dream or a desire.
This is an absolute necessityIn 2024,.

(52:45):
If I don't run a marathon inall 50 states, then I've failed
at the one thing that I've setmy life up to do, and that was
the only motivation I needed.
So no music.
There were definitely timeswhere I was on the ground right
here just staring up at theceiling and I'd call my buddy,
be like dude.
My life sucks because you know,oh, I got to go run a marathon
next weekend in like NorthDakota, middle of nowhere, with

(53:06):
no money in my bank account theentire year.
I'm definitely don't haveenough food.
My Achilles hurts so bad.
The videos aren't performing yet, because it took 35 marathons
to get to 10,000 followers.
I started the year out withlike 1600.
So you know, from 1600 to110,000 in one year was crazy,
but it took seven months ofrunning every single week and

(53:28):
not posting videos and thenfinally having to get out there
and post videos for like the onein Omaha to do well, to kind of
kickstart that whole process oflike.
Okay, I actually believe inthis content.
15 marathons left.
It's pretty interesting thosedaily recordings that I told you
about 10 to 15 minute videosthat I make.
I started doing those um inOctober of 2023.

(53:50):
And you can kind of see likethe physical change in myself as
well as like the uh, the mentalchange, everything like that.
Um, I had like a full beard in2023, shaved it off and then
like that whole process isreally cool to see.
But there's one video that Imade over the summer when it was
at the spot where I was likethere's no way I'm gonna be able
to pull this off.
You know, my Achilles is, it'sjust shot.

(54:12):
I, if I try to run anothermarathon next weekend, I'm going
to tear my Achilles and then Ihave no money left in my bank
account, all these differentthings, and I had to make the
decision at that point over thesummer that, no matter what
happens to me over the next sixmonths, I have to find a way to
pull off the challenge, becausethis is everything I've set up
my life to do.
So I made a video.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I was like all right y'all, I've set up my life to do
.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
So I made a video.
I was like, all right, y'all,I've made that commitment and
now you get to see over the nextcouple of months that I'll
follow through on that.
So far this year, five or sopeople have said, hey, it's
Wyatt Moss at a marathon.
But what if 10 people permarathon were saying that and
it's cool to see that was Julyof of this 2024.
So last year, it's cool to seethat six months later when I was

(54:53):
running Philly number 48, that100 people recognized me
throughout the race.
It's just crazy what can happenin a year when you just commit
relentlessly to this idea thatyou have, and see what happens.
Just give up everything.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
You proved it, dude, and it's again a testament to
just you committing 100% and, um, I'm I don't want to say I'm
jealous, because I'm going to befollowing along the journey and
we're going to be participatingtogether, but I'm, I'm
definitely admiring what you'vebeen able to accomplish.
It's uh, it's pretty incredible.
I've got to ask, though, fromyour nutrition standpoint, like,

(55:29):
were you crushing ribs duringevery race, or just ribs and
ketone IQ?
Hey, what a combo.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
What a combo.
I actually I haven't had a tonof gels or anything like that
during the race, like I don'tthink I've ever had like a
proper nutrition during amarathon this year.
Um, I've had, like you knowwhat would proper nutrition look
like?
You wake up, you have breakfast, right, you have carbs, simple
sugars like toast with jam on it, and then a little bit of

(55:57):
protein.
And then, going into the race,every 36 minutes or whatever it
is, you have a gel and then Itake a ketone at the start,
ketone at halfway through,whatever it is.
That's proper nutrition.
Most of the marathons I waswaking up about 30 minutes
before the start, running overto the start line, having not
yet showered, throwing my baginto the bag check, hopping in
with, like you know, putting mymarathon bib on Cause I

(56:19):
literally just picked it up fiveminutes ago and then, like I
had three gels in my pocket downto ketone and like, forget
about the gels.
You know, I think probably over10 marathons this year I, you
know, had less than a hundred or200 calories of of sustenance
the entire time.
So I think it definitely didnot fuel how I should have this

(56:40):
year, but the ribs was prettygood.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Mind over matter.
That's the first time your bodyhad fuel.
I was like, holy crap, this isactually easy doing this when I
actually have food in my system.
Dude, that's wild.
I had my buddy, liam Redman,giving me some suggestions like
carb loading five, six, 700grams of carbs.
A couple of days before, again,I was trying to go for that sub
four mark, not just finishing,but man, I could not imagine

(57:05):
doing it without fuelingproperly.
Now, just knowing how much itimpacts leading up to it.
That was one of the things thatwas eye-opening for me, for
sure.
But I also consumed a ton ofPerfect Sports protein powder,
which was like a game changer.
I was on the road for the monthwhen I did my marathon too.
Similar to you, I was sleepingin Walmart parking lots in my
co-founder's RV.
It was a converted school bus,so I was riding in style for a

(57:29):
month.
It was pretty great, can't lie,didn't create as much content
as I should have, but you great,can't lie, didn't create as
much content as I should have,but you know what?
It was a test run, and I thinkyou know I've taken inspiration
from you and 2025 is going to bewe're going to incorporate some
cool stuff.
But I also have this 60 secondstark show that I've been trying
to start up.
I did it with mitchell pelkeyback, like when we were on the
cape cod, just got a list of andor questions here for you to

(57:53):
wrap up the show before we endoff with our biggest piece of
advice for the next generationof athletes.
So I'm gonna just kick them.
You ready, quick answer.
You can elaborate if you want,but I feel like some of these
are going to be straightforward,given the cardio individual
that you are.
But maybe we'll learn a bitmore about wyatt moss here
during this 60 second stark show.
Here we go.
You ready'm ready, let's ridecardio or strength training

(58:16):
cardio running or cyclingcycling yoga or Pilates.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Um, I've actually never never done either.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Fair enough, we'll pass CrossFit or bodybuilding.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Honestly never done either of those.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
That's okay.
Well, maybe we'll do a trainingsession together, uh, swimming
or rowing.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Definitely rowing.
I used to be a rower.
That's how I got the strengthfor the 50 states challenge.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
No wonder he's got such a big back.
High intensity intervaltraining or circuit training.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
High intensity.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Indoor or outdoor workout.
I would say outdoor.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
I don't like the air conditioning when I'm sweating.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, overrated Protein shake or pre-workout.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Protein shake.
I've never taken pre-workout.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, overrated.
All you need is a little saltanyways.
But Altered State will reallyget you going if you need it
from Perfect Sports.
But we've got to get you somediesel protein as well.
Maybe I'll hook you up and sendyou some.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Are you a bpn athlete ?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
maybe I can't do that , but I mean, I haven't talked
with them yet, uh, okay, well,we'll hook you up in the
meantime until they recognizewhat you got going on.
Um, I'll get perfect sports onthat, okay?
Next, deadlifts or squats oohsquat yeah, runner, you gotta
get those quads going uh, onemile or 5K 5K.
The one mile was so tough.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
I ran a 540, like 48 or something like that.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Sub six is legit.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
It was hard.
That was the day before I ranHonolulu number 50.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Of course it was.
Why wouldn't you do your PRbefore a marathon?
It makes total sense, treadmillor elliptical.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
I've never ran on an elliptical, so treadmill.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Perfect, keep it that way Morning workout or evening
workout.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I need to be a more morning person, but I would say
evening workout Most probablylike.
Let's see day 435 or whateverit is of running a mile every
day.
I just stopped keeping track.
At least two thirds of the onemile every day that I've run
have been after 10 PM.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
So terrible for your health.
Really bad for waking up ontime.
But usually it's like 10o'clock, nine o'clock, whatever
it is, and I'm like, oh no, Ihave to go run a mile, and so I
just go outside, run my mile andcome back in, and sometimes I
won't even shower, I'll justfall asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Are you documenting those too?

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, I am.
It's gotten to the point,though, where it's so much
content to keep track of that itwould be great to post it
somewhere, but at the same timethere's just too many things
going on, so I'm not worriedabout it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
He's a busy man.
Body weight exercises or freeweights.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I mean, I don't even work out Like I need to.
I haven't.
I've been to the gym maybe fivetimes, 10 times this year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
There is definitely benefit to strength training in
addition to running.
However, you've been doing alot of running, so I'll give you
a pass on 2024, but I think2025.
If my one piece of advice wouldbe to get a little bit, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah, no, I uh.
I think there's benefit.
That was what helped me,honestly, like the last 10
kilometers of that marathon intoronto there were people

(01:01:35):
falling left, right and centerlegs were shaking, knees, weak
arms, heavy um mom's spaghetti.
It was crazy, but the uh thatwas what, honestly, I feel like
allowed me to keep going is Idid have strength as a hockey
goalie.
You know, growing up I had likestrength I could rely on and it
was like that was the onlyreason my body didn't shut down.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yeah, I needed it.
2025 is the year of getting big, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
He's going to look like C-Bum in six months.
You heard it here first.
Okay Beach workout or mountainhike.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Mountain hike.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Wall sit or plank.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Wall sit Push-ups or sit-ups, push-ups.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I hate sit-ups, squats or lung-ups, push-ups.
I hate sit-ups, squats orlunges.
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
I mean squats.
Lunges are really difficult too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Rest day or active recovery.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Active recovery.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Love it, love it.
Hey, wyatt Moss, that was the60 Seconds Dark Show.
It might have gone a littlelonger, but we'll chop it up and
we'll make it happen.
This is the 250th episode ofthe Athletes Podcast.
I'm a huge fan of your mindset,energy, everything you bring to
the table.
I'm honored to be able to bringyou on the show First of many
conversations hopefully futurecollaborations in the works for
sure.
But the way we wrap up everyepisode, wyatt, is we ask our

(01:02:52):
guests their biggest piece ofadvice for the next generation
of athletes, and I would love tobe able to share yours with our
guests, with our listeners, nomore than whatever you got
prepared for us now today.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Well, thank you so much for having me on for 250.
That's a huge accomplishmentand as well a great compliment
to me that I'd be worthy of thatepisode.
So thank you.
Piece of advice for upcomingathletes, I think it all starts
with, like, what's in your brain?
So what's the story that youtell yourself about who you are?
Because if you don't have acompelling story about yourself,

(01:03:26):
then how are you going to beable to put in the hours to
train?
You know when everyone goeshome and you want to be better,
but you follow them home.
You don't have that compellingstory that keeps you on the
field, and so you need to writethat compelling story.
Or else you know, life will getahead of you, you'll graduate
and you won't have pursued thedream that you have as best that

(01:03:48):
you could have.
And so then, if you want tohave that pursuit, you want to
have the best effort, you wantto be able to answer that
question well of like did youtry your best?
Yes, you need to change thatstory that you tell yourself
about who you are.
Make it a compelling story.
I am Wyatt Moss.
I can run a marathon in all 50states in 2024.
And then you need to tellyourself that, because that is

(01:04:09):
who you will become.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Our goal with the Athletes Podcast is to educate,
to educate, entertain andinspire the next generation of
athletes.
Wyatt moss, you have done thistoday.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate your time.
Uh, sincerely, I look forwardto keeping in touch, man thank
you for having me on.
It's been huge thank you, folks,for tuning in to the 250th
episode of the athletes podcast.
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