September 4, 2024 • 35 mins
Shawn Tierney meets up with Sumit Kapde of Emerson to discuss Robotic Paint Automation Solutions in this episode of The Automation Podcast.
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Welcome back to The Automation Podcast, the world's
number one industrial automation product and technology show.
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our audience of highly skilled automation professionals.
Thank you for being a member of our
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week. Now for those who may be new
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of Insights and Automation,
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call attention to any details in the visuals
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that I think the listen only audience may
want to know about. So with that said,
I want to welcome, first time on the
show, Sumit from Emerson,
who's going to talk to us about Emerson
Discrete Automation.
And, Sumit, before you jump into your presentation,
since this is your first time on the
show, could you just take a moment and
introduce yourself to our audience? Sure, Sean. Thanks
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a lot for inviting me on the show.
It's a really great opportunity for us to
forecast what we are doing in the automation
world.
So my name is Sumit Kapte. I am
responsible for the global business development of factory
automation segment, which is within the Emerson's Digital
Automation Group. So we help our customers,
design the solutions specific for,
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their applications,
and with that solutions, they can, reduce their
total cost of ownership with the solutions that
we implement.
And today, we are talk going to talk
about,
exactly,
achieving these key points,
mainly focused on the paint automation topic.
But before we jump in, I wanna thank
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let's jump back into the show. So basically,
just to introduce Emerson's, Disk Automation Group, at
a glance, we are operating worldwide with this,
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core portfolio,
which includes our leading brands,
like ASCO, Aventics,
DESCOM, Topworks.
And, additionally, we have also a couple of
brands,
which are from the acquisitions coming on,
mainly focusing on PLC systems, software solutions from
PAC Systems and Movicon.
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But, also, we have a power supply brand
called Solar HD,
as well as, welding,
machines brand called Branson.
With all this consolidated
portfolio of leading brands in the industry, our
goal is to drive the efficiency for our
end customers,
where we help them increase the productivity,
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reduce the energy usage, be it with compressed
air or gas or
electricity.
Our components are exactly designed to reduce this
consumption.
And, of course, with the data monitoring and
acquisitions, we help our customers
enable the insights of what's going on in
their machines
and unlocking those usage of the trap data
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where, you know, the customers really need to
make sense of those data.
You know, I wanna jump in for a
second.
You know, I wanna jump in for a
second. I just noticed a couple of your
leading
brands that audience may also know. I know
we call cover Advantix a lot on The
Morning Show,
and, I also see you have Appleton and
then OZ Gen
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Geni? Yeah. Correct. And so those are, those
are other brands that you guys may recognize
in addition to PAC Systems and Topworks and
ASCO. So I just wanted to throw that
out there for the audio audience, and let
me turn it right back to you.
Absolutely. Thanks a lot. Yeah. Appleton also for
industrial lightings and so on, very important part
of our DISCO Automation Group.
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And with all these consolidated brands, Emerson's
current focus or let's say the main motto
is,
floor to cloud.
That means we want to offer
solutions
that are comprising of floor level devices,
control systems,
edge devices,
which can transfer the data from those machine
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components to the software,
and also, of course, the software layer plus
the cloud level. So all the automation pyramid
hierarchy
can be optimized by Emerson's components and solutions.
If we do a little bit of, let's
say, a brief introduction to the main brands
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that we focus on when it comes to
display automation,
We obviously start with Aventics, which is a
main brand for factory automation components,
where we offer our customers,
solutions with, electric linear motion, pneumatic systems, control
systems,
sensors,
position feedback, and so on,
feeding and handling systems from our recently acquired
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brand of Afag.
Then comes ASCO,
Topworks, which is mainly for industrial automation, where
we offer a solenoid and air operated walls,
very legendary brand into industrial automation systems,
switches and sensors, pulse walls, which is, let's
say,
some more than 70%,
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of the market is with ASCO's pulse jet
walls, and also industrial burner
controls. So these 2 are mainly, let's say,
going into factory automation landscape.
Then we have test com, which is,
precision fluid control where you need to regulate
the flow of
gases or or any other form of, media
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where the pressure is, let's say, more than
40, 50 bar or even up to 406
100 bars. So these are very, very high
pressure,
fluid control components.
Then we have, solar HD pack systems and
movicon,
for controls and software part where we also
offer SCADA,
systems, HMIs, PLCs, analytics software, and power conditioning
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modules.
For welding and assembly, we have Branson.
For plastic and metal welding, of course,
currently in the battery market, they are also
looking for very much,
precise cleaning tools and
those welding machines that are catered to,
battery modules applications.
So that's where also Branson,
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keeps their customers'
problems,
solved,
with their machines.
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back into this week's episode.
Currently, as I told, so our concept right
now from Emerson is providing floor to cloud
solutions
where you can see that a lot of
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components go into the factory floor being from
machine control,
fluid and motion control, intelligent sensing, materials joining,
visualization, and so on, all these components can
transfer some sort of data. That means these
components are making those machines smarter,
and we want to use the data from
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these machines to transfer to edge devices,
which can interpret the data on how they
can be used and transferring it to the
cloud,
to, let's say, have access,
factory wide or even if you have more
than 1 factories in multiple locations,
then you can have a central headquarters,
tapping into those data from all the factories.
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So that makes, let's say, the solutions more
scalable
and open automation for those factories which have
multiple plants.
And, that enables them to make more, let's
say, fluent decision making when it comes to
their production floors.
And how do we make that? So we
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have instruments and sensors, for compressed air, for
gases, for liquids. We have a lot of
position control walls,
wall systems, feeding and handling systems with motion
drives, even the welding and assembly systems. All
these are intelligent,
software enabled devices.
We transfer the data to control systems. We
have our own range of edge device,
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PLC systems,
SCADA, HMI software, and also power supply, which
can gather this data and then put it
in the software. So what we did is
we have a standard stack of software, let's
say, for, compressed air monitoring.
So this, stack of software can be used
by n number of, customers. They we don't
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have to,
let's say, specify it for customer A and
then do it for customer B. This can
be just used as a plug and play,
software solution.
And with this, we are solving
main customer pain points like maximizing the performance
of the existing machines. A lot of industries
are,
let's say,
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having a lot of problems with the throughput
and the output of the machines and they
want to increase it rather than investing in
a whole new line of machines.
So we help them maximize performance of these
existing machines, increasing the efficiency of those equipments.
That means we are increasing also
the, lifetime of the machines with having those
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components installed, and that can give us more
data on when are those components going to
fail and when they need the replacements of
those components.
So you have this this slide I think
is excellent. It really explains a lot to
me. So everything from the instruments and sensors
on the very bottom,
you know the valve stacks and all that,
going up to the industrial computers, EDGE devices,
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PLCs, PACs, you know the power supplies including
HMIs and SCADA. And then above that we
have these
tailored solutions, and the one that kind of
drew my eye, you know drew my eye
was the clean in place because everybody's, you
know, a lot of systems have to have
that clean and pace whether it's food and
bev or life sciences.
And so just having that as a as
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a bolt on, you know, he has a
software solution that's tested and works. You know,
in addition to the air compress monitoring and
the other ones you show up there, I
think that's pretty impressive. And, like, I'm already
learning. Like, I know so much more about
your product line now than I did at
the beginning here. So let me turn it
back to you.
Absolutely. Thanks a lot. Yeah. I mean, Emerson
is a big word. Right? So it's always
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a little bit even for us, it's a
bit confusing when it comes to so many
product portfolio on, let's say, how to put
it all together. But we have engineers who
work,
exactly for this kind of solutions, and they
know
what we can collaborate with our sister brands,
from other Emerson divisions, like, let's say, Rosemount,
which has a wide range of sensor capabilities,
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and how we can integrate into the Discord
automation portfolio. Right? So that's what the beauty
of Emerson is that we can offer, let's
say, the whole factory wide automation solutions,
and,
we can we can, let's say, maximize
the customer's
purchasing and procurement
timeline.
So that's where what we have to offer
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here.
Now let's jump into the solutions for paint
automation for for with robotics. That's what the
topic for today is.
And
mainly, what we did do do is that
we identify what are the challenges in the
application. Whenever whenever we have a customer who
comes to us and says, I I want
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your automation components, we don't start by discussing
catalog products or anything. We we ask them,
what is your problem exactly? What do you
want to achieve,
when you talk about automation components?
So to give you an example, with the
paint application, we have a lot of customers
where we gather the data of what are
the standard challenges, and we drill down to
4 main challenges.
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The first and the foremost and also the
most important one is overspray.
So whenever you have a high pressure jet
and a compressed air of 6 bar, 7
bar is flowing through it along with the
paint media,
that means it is bound to overspray up
to some extent.
And because also there are a lot of
changes in the pressure during,
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robotic painting application,
be it on, on cars, trucks,
buses or airplanes,
there is going to be a lot of
flow and pressure changes during those operations, and
that makes,
a lot of overspray into the system.
So that means
if you apply 100 liters of paint
through the robotic systems,
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those 100 liters of paint is not going
to stick to the body of the
car, trucks, or buses.
It's bound to have some sort of losses,
and that loss is around 20 to 25
percent in the industries.
So this is a major challenge.
And if overspray is a challenge, the second
one is the paint sludge. So whenever there
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is overspray, the paint particles are in the
air.
After your, let's say, daily operations, all those
paint particles are going to settle down on
the floor. And when those
particles are on the floor, they will create
a waste material called paint sludge.
And most of the industries or most of
the geographical
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countries, they are not allowed
to dispose,
this paint sludge into a landfill or anything.
So you have to treat
the paint sludge, which costs a lot of
money.
And the third point is the process optimization.
That means
they have to
optimize the process. That means they have to
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have those movements of the robot so precise
that they reduce the amount of time it
takes to paint one body, be it cars,
trucks, or buses,
and also reduce
the,
let's say,
all those paint sludge and overspray characteristics with
optimizing those processes.
And that brings me to the 4th point,
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which is to minimize of the media consumption.
That means they want to reduce the consumption
of raw material of paint as much as
possible
because it costs a lot of money, be
it, when you are when you are spraying
on a Ford or a BMW or Mercedes.
1 liter of paint costs a lot of
money.
So all these four challenges are known to
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us as Emerson. And when we whenever we
talk to customers about paint, we know that
these are the challenges and how we can
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But we, of course, try to put those
into numbers. That means we do a cost
effect analysis
on all those,
key challenges and in this case about the
waste generation due to the overspray.
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So if you see on the left hand
side, we identified that approximately 20% to 30%
of the paint is being lost
due to overspray.
That means the efficiency of the paint solution
is around 80%.
And of course, there are technologies that can
lift this up to maybe 85, 87%,
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but still there is always an overspray loss
of minimum 15 to 20%.
And if you talk about automotive industry, this
is an example from automotive,
and
each car produces 3 to 5 kilos
of paint sludge,
which is a lot. So one car is
being sprayed
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with the paint and when that car moves
along the production line, they leave behind 3
to 5 kilos of paint sludge, which has
to be treated.
And according to our estimates
on the market,
it costs around $300 to $500
per tonne, that means per 1,000 kilos for
treating
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that paint sludge.
And
in involved, so total number of cars produced,
this was data from 2022,
85,000,000 cars are produced. So if you, let's
say, take into consideration that you are producing
around 3 to 5 kilos of paint sludge,
that brings us to 340,000
tons of paint sludge worldwide.
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And that is a cost of $136,000,000
that automotive
manufacturers
worldwide
have to bear
to treat just the paint sludge. So let's
say Ford is producing 10% of the global
car's demand,
Ford is spending $13,600,000
on treating those paint sludge,
depending on how much the ratio is.
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So these are heavy costs that they have
to concur while painting their cars.
When it comes to robotic painting systems, but
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we can obviously reduce it.
And that's where we
provide
components where we have already proof points. That
means it is working in the industry since
many, many decades.
And we are
keeping on upgrading our technology,
let's say every couple of years whenever there
is
a, let's say,
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demand to upgrade this.
But we always start with proportional technologies
which is
sort of a backbone
for
painting systems and
robot systems that have paint applications.
For these proportional technologies,
the most important part is the fastest reaction
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time.
On airflow control for the shaping air of
in and out,
and this reaction time has to be as
minimum as possible. That means if you are
painting on surface A, your flow is x
and if you are painting on surface B,
your flow is y. So changing from flow
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x to y,
that timeframe has to be the minimum
that is possible.
The second part is the sensors. Our compressed
air sensors which are mounted on the air
filtration unit and of course the flow and
pressure sensors
module which give the data,
back to the robot systems
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is a very important part of optimizing the
performance.
And the flow sensor integration is for closed
loop feedback
on all those flow and pressure changes that
goes throughout the painting systems.
And the 3rd, is the valve terminals. These
valve terminals
allow the compressed airflow through the robotic systems
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and has to be very lightweight. Because they
are installed
inside the robot, they have to be very
compact
and very lightweight. And that's what we achieve
with our AV03 valve terminals.
And as I told, the backbone is the
proportional technology
for painting applications
and this is our,
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let's say the
signature product for paint application, which is called
ED07
proportional valve.
This is mainly double direct,
operating version. This has 2 solenoid coils on
both sides,
very dynamic flow control. This doesn't consume any
air while operating.
We have both EtherCAT and Profinet versions which
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are standard in the automotive industry.
And it also has rate rotation speed control
for turbines. So whenever there is a compressor
going through the robotic parts
and on the on the front, there is
a turbine which rotates,
so the speed of the turbine can also
be controlled with these kind of proportional valves.
And we also have feedback loop input directly
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on the proportional valves for the faster response.
That means the signal can be provided
from the valve
directly to the valve or to the robot
control systems.
And because of this dual coil technology,
it can have the fastest
response time in the market.
So
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standard
flow control flow changes
around 50 to 100 liters per minute, This
kind of flow change
can be
realized within 80 milliseconds
with the help of this valve. This is
by far the fastest
proportional valve.
And it also has self controlled adaptation.
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That means
whenever you give
a parameter input,
it will adapt
to the real flow rate
versus
inputted flow rate
without having to,
have the external parameters,
influence on it.
It will have automatic
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control on adjusting to that flow rate within
2 iterations.
And it is integratable directly on the robot
arm. So we have
many installations in many automotive industries, and this
goes right inside the robotic body.
And just to give you an example of
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how fast this valve can be, so we
have tested it multiple times. Our customers have
tested it.
And this is one of the results,
which I want to highlight here, for example,
from 3 50 liters to 400 liters per
minute,
this kind of flow rate change.
It will take only 42 milliseconds
to achieve
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this flow change
without having to go
on a huge fluctuation.
So this is with, hysteresis of less than,
I think, 0.5%,
which is also lowest,
for any proportional walls.
And the timeframe that we achieve these flow
rate changes
is absolutely
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what the industry requires.
If we reduce this,
millisecond,
value as much as possible,
that means it will have less overspray.
It will have less time to change this,
it will have less overspray into the air.
Let me ask you a question on this
chart because this is very interesting and we're
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looking at the step changes in the system
here and you can see those are lit
up in red. I think part of this,
this chart may be in another language.
Can you tell us what the blue and
the green are? What are we looking there
at?
The blue part is mainly the pressure
that is, let's say you are having a
compressed air pressure of maybe 5, 6 bar
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going through the system. So that's the value
of the pressure going through it. And, the
green is the flow,
the amount of compressed air that is flowing
through it. So maybe the amount is, let's
say, 350 to 400 liters per minute. That
is a change that we need. It's on
this axis.
And then blue is the pressure that we
require to have this change.
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And and we can see, for instance, the
step change from 250 to 400,
96 milliseconds.
Right? So that's a pretty big step change,
and you could see it zoning in there
right on the chart. You can see it
really narrowing right in there so that on
the blue line, you you you you get
to your setpoint right away, and it looks
like it's constantly adjusting to there for Yep.
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The variables of the system. So as the
system is is experiencing changes, that's, you know,
locking right in there on that setpoint.
Correct. So the red line means this is
the input given
from the system or the robot is being
already programmed
to have this kind of flow change because
this is a graph. Let's say let's say
a Ford F150 is going through a line.
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Yeah? Mhmm. And you have a certain set
of parameters already preprogrammed
that how a robot should behave while painting
a Ford F150.
Sure. And whenever let's say they are painting
the hood of the F150 and you need
to change the flow rate from 250 to
400. So your set point always on each
f 150 will be this, 400. Mhmm. And
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to achieve this,
let's say, flow rate here, it will take
96 milliseconds.
Maybe sometimes it's lower, sometimes a bit higher.
That's called hysteresis,
and it will be less less than 1%.
It the values that you see green here
up and down, that will be always plus
minus 1%.
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It is still very exact
or, let's say,
close to exact for this kind of flow
rates and this kind of pressure ranges. Fast
too. Very fast. Very fast. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah, apart from this, let's say another proof
point that we try to,
give our customers is a dew point sensor,
mainly
because
one of the important characteristics
of paint spraying is
controlling the humidity of the compressed air.
Because whenever you are spraying a standard paint,
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be it in your home or even on
the cars or wherever,
if the air is too humid or too
dry, that means when it mixes with the
paint,
it might
deteriorate the quality of the paint that is
being sprayed. So if the air is too
humid, it might leave water droplets on your
surfaces,
which is, let's say, the quality might be
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rejected in the end.
So, you need to maintain your dew point,
based on the industry
standards,
be it in automotive or aerospace.
Those dew point values are already always given.
And we have integrated a dew point sensor,
as you can see here, directly on the
air filtration,
module.
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So before the compressed air lateral sensor monitoring
begins, you already have a dew point sensor
that gives the value
via our dashboard,
from the software to the production guys, and
they can see continuously how the dew point
is being varied.
And as soon as there is a change
of, let's say, we can have an upper
limit and lower limit, and whenever the due
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point goes above and beyond those points,
we can have a notification issued to the
servers and they can react immediately.
Also, we can have a module installed that
might have,
impact on the robotic performance or robotic, let's
say, movements that can stop for a while
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until the viewpoint is restored because it's always
easier to, let's say, have a quick stop
for 2 minutes to check the filters and
regulators,
before having to have rejected in the quality
check because of the paint issues.
So this is also a consolidated solution that
we can offer our customers directly also integrated,
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beside the robot modules.
And because of our experience
into this application,
we know what our customers want.
We know how to solve those challenges.
And based on those experiences
and
values,
determined from our customer experiences,
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we designed an integrated plug and play panel,
which comprises of all the important components that,
integrator of, Paint Robot might need
to have the maximum performance,
of the paint application.
That means they just can get with single
part number the whole plug and play panel,
which comprises of valve terminals,
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2
proportional valves, ED07,
which is mainly for
flow control of the shaping air in and
out,
one more proportional valve for lower flow rate
to control the speed of the turbines,
and to flow sensors.
So all this mounted on a panel, a
metal panel, which has standard dimensions, which can
fit into, I think, most of the robotic
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arms.
Even if not, we can have, extra cabinet
just beside the robot to, to mount all
these equipments,
and the parameterization
of the proportional walls are already been, let's
say, programmed for paint application. That means
integrators or even end users can just,
(30:09):
order this panel and have a plug and
play solution ready to go,
for their paint applications.
This makes it a little bit easier for
the procurement
guys as well. Oh, yeah.
And, last but not least,
I want to show what's next. So as
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I told you, we keep on upgrading our
technology to make,
let's say, those applications
much faster and
maximize the throughput of the paint application as
much as possible.
And we are working on a new and
compact
design of our proportional walls because, of course,
because of the dual coil technology, it's a
little bit bigger than the standard proportional walls
(30:54):
in the market.
But we want to,
go ahead and have the next step with
integrated sensors
in the proportional valve body,
which allows for maximum efficiency and lowest possible
paint loss. That means these sensors are integrated
into the subbase. As you can see here
in the gray part, these are subbase attached
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to
the ED07 proportional valve, which allows the flow
of compressed air fluid.
And you can see one cable going through
from the subbase to directly,
the proportional valve electronics.
So that means we are shortening the distance
of the feedback signals
from,
the subbase to the proportional valves. So that
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means we will not need in the future
2 flow sensors
that we had in the earlier,
panels.
So this is a very compact design that
we are working on. We already have prototypes.
The results are also
excellent on that.
And, the main technology behind this is, new
developed newly developed venturi nozzle sensors that we
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have implemented in this.
Will it still be
will it still be an ED 0 7
when it comes out?
Correct. So it will be a special version,
ED07
paint version, let's say. We'll have some,
special naming for that as well. Okay.
So that's something we have been working on,
very successfully,
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and hopefully, it will reach the market soon.
And that's all from my side. I hope
I was able to give you a little
bit of insight on how Emerson
can help, solve customer challenges mainly when it
comes to paint applications.
Well, I thought that was very interesting. The
intro, just seeing the breadth of products you
have, a lot of those products,
(32:40):
I know discreetly from from being them being
separate and not part of the the Emerson
the big Emerson line of automation.
And then,
to see the solutions you have for the
robotic paintings,
applications,
especially with the dual coils down, the ED07.
Yeah. Very interesting. And the highest speed of
reaction too to be able to make those
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step changes
and
and, get the flow right there within, you
know, under a 100 milliseconds. Right? So and
that was a pretty large step change too
as far as the process was concerned. So
no. Just very impressive,
and, you know, we'd love to have you
back in the future to talk about other
topics. But for now, was there anything else
you wanted to tell the audience before we
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close out the show?
No. I think, we are pretty good on
that. And as as you told, like, for
the customers who are listening to this and
interested into paint solutions, the main target, as
as we told, is to reduce the overspray
and help you maximize the throughput of the
robotic paint solution, and that's what we are
here for. We have the experience
of doing that. We know exactly what kind
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of components you will need, and,
we are we are here to make your
life easier.
So that's what, this is all about.
Yeah. Not only paint the whatever you're painting,
the truck or vehicle, whatever, faster Yeah. But
then have less sludge afterwards to treat. You
know, it's a win win because you save
money on material, on treating,
and your cycle times go up too. So
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win win win. Correct.
Yes. Well, Summit, I really appreciate you coming
on the show. I thought that was very
interesting,
topic and just wanna thank you again for
coming on. Thanks a lot, John. Well, I
hope you enjoyed that episode. I wanna thank
Summit from Emerson for coming on the show
and not only bringing us up to speed
on their discreet automation group, which I thought
was very eye opening, but also to tell
us about their new solutions when it comes
(34:24):
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I want to welcome, first time on the
show, Sumit from Emerson,
who's going to talk to us about Emerson
Discrete Automation.
And, Sumit, before you jump into your presentation,
since this is your first time on the
show, could you just take a moment and
introduce yourself to our audience? Sure, Sean. Thanks
(01:05):
a lot for inviting me on the show.
It's a really great opportunity for us to
forecast what we are doing in the automation
world.
So my name is Sumit Kapte. I am
responsible for the global business development of factory
automation segment, which is within the Emerson's Digital
Automation Group. So we help our customers,
design the solutions specific for,
(01:25):
their applications,
and with that solutions, they can, reduce their
total cost of ownership with the solutions that
we implement.
And today, we are talk going to talk
about,
exactly,
achieving these key points,
mainly focused on the paint automation topic.
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let's jump back into the show. So basically,
just to introduce Emerson's, Disk Automation Group, at
a glance, we are operating worldwide with this,
(02:11):
core portfolio,
which includes our leading brands,
like ASCO, Aventics,
DESCOM, Topworks.
And, additionally, we have also a couple of
brands,
which are from the acquisitions coming on,
mainly focusing on PLC systems, software solutions from
PAC Systems and Movicon.
(02:31):
But, also, we have a power supply brand
called Solar HD,
as well as, welding,
machines brand called Branson.
With all this consolidated
portfolio of leading brands in the industry, our
goal is to drive the efficiency for our
end customers,
where we help them increase the productivity,
(02:53):
reduce the energy usage, be it with compressed
air or gas or
electricity.
Our components are exactly designed to reduce this
consumption.
And, of course, with the data monitoring and
acquisitions, we help our customers
enable the insights of what's going on in
their machines
and unlocking those usage of the trap data
(03:16):
where, you know, the customers really need to
make sense of those data.
You know, I wanna jump in for a
second.
You know, I wanna jump in for a
second. I just noticed a couple of your
leading
brands that audience may also know. I know
we call cover Advantix a lot on The
Morning Show,
and, I also see you have Appleton and
then OZ Gen
(03:38):
Geni? Yeah. Correct. And so those are, those
are other brands that you guys may recognize
in addition to PAC Systems and Topworks and
ASCO. So I just wanted to throw that
out there for the audio audience, and let
me turn it right back to you.
Absolutely. Thanks a lot. Yeah. Appleton also for
industrial lightings and so on, very important part
of our DISCO Automation Group.
(03:59):
And with all these consolidated brands, Emerson's
current focus or let's say the main motto
is,
floor to cloud.
That means we want to offer
solutions
that are comprising of floor level devices,
control systems,
edge devices,
which can transfer the data from those machine
(04:20):
components to the software,
and also, of course, the software layer plus
the cloud level. So all the automation pyramid
hierarchy
can be optimized by Emerson's components and solutions.
If we do a little bit of, let's
say, a brief introduction to the main brands
(04:40):
that we focus on when it comes to
display automation,
We obviously start with Aventics, which is a
main brand for factory automation components,
where we offer our customers,
solutions with, electric linear motion, pneumatic systems, control
systems,
sensors,
position feedback, and so on,
feeding and handling systems from our recently acquired
(05:01):
brand of Afag.
Then comes ASCO,
Topworks, which is mainly for industrial automation, where
we offer a solenoid and air operated walls,
very legendary brand into industrial automation systems,
switches and sensors, pulse walls, which is, let's
say,
some more than 70%,
(05:21):
of the market is with ASCO's pulse jet
walls, and also industrial burner
controls. So these 2 are mainly, let's say,
going into factory automation landscape.
Then we have test com, which is,
precision fluid control where you need to regulate
the flow of
gases or or any other form of, media
(05:41):
where the pressure is, let's say, more than
40, 50 bar or even up to 406
100 bars. So these are very, very high
pressure,
fluid control components.
Then we have, solar HD pack systems and
movicon,
for controls and software part where we also
offer SCADA,
systems, HMIs, PLCs, analytics software, and power conditioning
(06:04):
modules.
For welding and assembly, we have Branson.
For plastic and metal welding, of course,
currently in the battery market, they are also
looking for very much,
precise cleaning tools and
those welding machines that are catered to,
battery modules applications.
So that's where also Branson,
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problems,
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And with that, let's go ahead and jump
back into this week's episode.
Currently, as I told, so our concept right
now from Emerson is providing floor to cloud
solutions
where you can see that a lot of
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components go into the factory floor being from
machine control,
fluid and motion control, intelligent sensing, materials joining,
visualization, and so on, all these components can
transfer some sort of data. That means these
components are making those machines smarter,
and we want to use the data from
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these machines to transfer to edge devices,
which can interpret the data on how they
can be used and transferring it to the
cloud,
to, let's say, have access,
factory wide or even if you have more
than 1 factories in multiple locations,
then you can have a central headquarters,
tapping into those data from all the factories.
(07:50):
So that makes, let's say, the solutions more
scalable
and open automation for those factories which have
multiple plants.
And, that enables them to make more, let's
say, fluent decision making when it comes to
their production floors.
And how do we make that? So we
(08:11):
have instruments and sensors, for compressed air, for
gases, for liquids. We have a lot of
position control walls,
wall systems, feeding and handling systems with motion
drives, even the welding and assembly systems. All
these are intelligent,
software enabled devices.
We transfer the data to control systems. We
have our own range of edge device,
(08:33):
PLC systems,
SCADA, HMI software, and also power supply, which
can gather this data and then put it
in the software. So what we did is
we have a standard stack of software, let's
say, for, compressed air monitoring.
So this, stack of software can be used
by n number of, customers. They we don't
(08:53):
have to,
let's say, specify it for customer A and
then do it for customer B. This can
be just used as a plug and play,
software solution.
And with this, we are solving
main customer pain points like maximizing the performance
of the existing machines. A lot of industries
are,
let's say,
(09:14):
having a lot of problems with the throughput
and the output of the machines and they
want to increase it rather than investing in
a whole new line of machines.
So we help them maximize performance of these
existing machines, increasing the efficiency of those equipments.
That means we are increasing also
the, lifetime of the machines with having those
(09:35):
components installed, and that can give us more
data on when are those components going to
fail and when they need the replacements of
those components.
So you have this this slide I think
is excellent. It really explains a lot to
me. So everything from the instruments and sensors
on the very bottom,
you know the valve stacks and all that,
going up to the industrial computers, EDGE devices,
(09:58):
PLCs, PACs, you know the power supplies including
HMIs and SCADA. And then above that we
have these
tailored solutions, and the one that kind of
drew my eye, you know drew my eye
was the clean in place because everybody's, you
know, a lot of systems have to have
that clean and pace whether it's food and
bev or life sciences.
And so just having that as a as
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a bolt on, you know, he has a
software solution that's tested and works. You know,
in addition to the air compress monitoring and
the other ones you show up there, I
think that's pretty impressive. And, like, I'm already
learning. Like, I know so much more about
your product line now than I did at
the beginning here. So let me turn it
back to you.
Absolutely. Thanks a lot. Yeah. I mean, Emerson
is a big word. Right? So it's always
(10:39):
a little bit even for us, it's a
bit confusing when it comes to so many
product portfolio on, let's say, how to put
it all together. But we have engineers who
work,
exactly for this kind of solutions, and they
know
what we can collaborate with our sister brands,
from other Emerson divisions, like, let's say, Rosemount,
which has a wide range of sensor capabilities,
(11:02):
and how we can integrate into the Discord
automation portfolio. Right? So that's what the beauty
of Emerson is that we can offer, let's
say, the whole factory wide automation solutions,
and,
we can we can, let's say, maximize
the customer's
purchasing and procurement
timeline.
So that's where what we have to offer
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here.
Now let's jump into the solutions for paint
automation for for with robotics. That's what the
topic for today is.
And
mainly, what we did do do is that
we identify what are the challenges in the
application. Whenever whenever we have a customer who
comes to us and says, I I want
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your automation components, we don't start by discussing
catalog products or anything. We we ask them,
what is your problem exactly? What do you
want to achieve,
when you talk about automation components?
So to give you an example, with the
paint application, we have a lot of customers
where we gather the data of what are
the standard challenges, and we drill down to
4 main challenges.
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The first and the foremost and also the
most important one is overspray.
So whenever you have a high pressure jet
and a compressed air of 6 bar, 7
bar is flowing through it along with the
paint media,
that means it is bound to overspray up
to some extent.
And because also there are a lot of
changes in the pressure during,
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robotic painting application,
be it on, on cars, trucks,
buses or airplanes,
there is going to be a lot of
flow and pressure changes during those operations, and
that makes,
a lot of overspray into the system.
So that means
if you apply 100 liters of paint
through the robotic systems,
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those 100 liters of paint is not going
to stick to the body of the
car, trucks, or buses.
It's bound to have some sort of losses,
and that loss is around 20 to 25
percent in the industries.
So this is a major challenge.
And if overspray is a challenge, the second
one is the paint sludge. So whenever there
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is overspray, the paint particles are in the
air.
After your, let's say, daily operations, all those
paint particles are going to settle down on
the floor. And when those
particles are on the floor, they will create
a waste material called paint sludge.
And most of the industries or most of
the geographical
(13:27):
countries, they are not allowed
to dispose,
this paint sludge into a landfill or anything.
So you have to treat
the paint sludge, which costs a lot of
money.
And the third point is the process optimization.
That means
they have to
optimize the process. That means they have to
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have those movements of the robot so precise
that they reduce the amount of time it
takes to paint one body, be it cars,
trucks, or buses,
and also reduce
the,
let's say,
all those paint sludge and overspray characteristics with
optimizing those processes.
And that brings me to the 4th point,
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which is to minimize of the media consumption.
That means they want to reduce the consumption
of raw material of paint as much as
possible
because it costs a lot of money, be
it, when you are when you are spraying
on a Ford or a BMW or Mercedes.
1 liter of paint costs a lot of
money.
So all these four challenges are known to
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us as Emerson. And when we whenever we
talk to customers about paint, we know that
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But we, of course, try to put those
into numbers. That means we do a cost
effect analysis
on all those,
key challenges and in this case about the
waste generation due to the overspray.
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So if you see on the left hand
side, we identified that approximately 20% to 30%
of the paint is being lost
due to overspray.
That means the efficiency of the paint solution
is around 80%.
And of course, there are technologies that can
lift this up to maybe 85, 87%,
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but still there is always an overspray loss
of minimum 15 to 20%.
And if you talk about automotive industry, this
is an example from automotive,
and
each car produces 3 to 5 kilos
of paint sludge,
which is a lot. So one car is
being sprayed
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with the paint and when that car moves
along the production line, they leave behind 3
to 5 kilos of paint sludge, which has
to be treated.
And according to our estimates
on the market,
it costs around $300 to $500
per tonne, that means per 1,000 kilos for
treating
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that paint sludge.
And
in involved, so total number of cars produced,
this was data from 2022,
85,000,000 cars are produced. So if you, let's
say, take into consideration that you are producing
around 3 to 5 kilos of paint sludge,
that brings us to 340,000
tons of paint sludge worldwide.
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And that is a cost of $136,000,000
that automotive
manufacturers
worldwide
have to bear
to treat just the paint sludge. So let's
say Ford is producing 10% of the global
car's demand,
Ford is spending $13,600,000
on treating those paint sludge,
depending on how much the ratio is.
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So these are heavy costs that they have
to concur while painting their cars.
When it comes to robotic painting systems, but
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we can obviously reduce it.
And that's where we
provide
components where we have already proof points. That
means it is working in the industry since
many, many decades.
And we are
keeping on upgrading our technology,
let's say every couple of years whenever there
is
a, let's say,
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demand to upgrade this.
But we always start with proportional technologies
which is
sort of a backbone
for
painting systems and
robot systems that have paint applications.
For these proportional technologies,
the most important part is the fastest reaction
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time.
On airflow control for the shaping air of
in and out,
and this reaction time has to be as
minimum as possible. That means if you are
painting on surface A, your flow is x
and if you are painting on surface B,
your flow is y. So changing from flow
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x to y,
that timeframe has to be the minimum
that is possible.
The second part is the sensors. Our compressed
air sensors which are mounted on the air
filtration unit and of course the flow and
pressure sensors
module which give the data,
back to the robot systems
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is a very important part of optimizing the
performance.
And the flow sensor integration is for closed
loop feedback
on all those flow and pressure changes that
goes throughout the painting systems.
And the 3rd, is the valve terminals. These
valve terminals
allow the compressed airflow through the robotic systems
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and has to be very lightweight. Because they
are installed
inside the robot, they have to be very
compact
and very lightweight. And that's what we achieve
with our AV03 valve terminals.
And as I told, the backbone is the
proportional technology
for painting applications
and this is our,
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let's say the
signature product for paint application, which is called
ED07
proportional valve.
This is mainly double direct,
operating version. This has 2 solenoid coils on
both sides,
very dynamic flow control. This doesn't consume any
air while operating.
We have both EtherCAT and Profinet versions which
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are standard in the automotive industry.
And it also has rate rotation speed control
for turbines. So whenever there is a compressor
going through the robotic parts
and on the on the front, there is
a turbine which rotates,
so the speed of the turbine can also
be controlled with these kind of proportional valves.
And we also have feedback loop input directly
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on the proportional valves for the faster response.
That means the signal can be provided
from the valve
directly to the valve or to the robot
control systems.
And because of this dual coil technology,
it can have the fastest
response time in the market.
So
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standard
flow control flow changes
around 50 to 100 liters per minute, This
kind of flow change
can be
realized within 80 milliseconds
with the help of this valve. This is
by far the fastest
proportional valve.
And it also has self controlled adaptation.
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That means
whenever you give
a parameter input,
it will adapt
to the real flow rate
versus
inputted flow rate
without having to,
have the external parameters,
influence on it.
It will have automatic
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control on adjusting to that flow rate within
2 iterations.
And it is integratable directly on the robot
arm. So we have
many installations in many automotive industries, and this
goes right inside the robotic body.
And just to give you an example of
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how fast this valve can be, so we
have tested it multiple times. Our customers have
tested it.
And this is one of the results,
which I want to highlight here, for example,
from 3 50 liters to 400 liters per
minute,
this kind of flow rate change.
It will take only 42 milliseconds
to achieve
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this flow change
without having to go
on a huge fluctuation.
So this is with, hysteresis of less than,
I think, 0.5%,
which is also lowest,
for any proportional walls.
And the timeframe that we achieve these flow
rate changes
is absolutely
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what the industry requires.
If we reduce this,
millisecond,
value as much as possible,
that means it will have less overspray.
It will have less time to change this,
it will have less overspray into the air.
Let me ask you a question on this
chart because this is very interesting and we're
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looking at the step changes in the system
here and you can see those are lit
up in red. I think part of this,
this chart may be in another language.
Can you tell us what the blue and
the green are? What are we looking there
at?
The blue part is mainly the pressure
that is, let's say you are having a
compressed air pressure of maybe 5, 6 bar
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going through the system. So that's the value
of the pressure going through it. And, the
green is the flow,
the amount of compressed air that is flowing
through it. So maybe the amount is, let's
say, 350 to 400 liters per minute. That
is a change that we need. It's on
this axis.
And then blue is the pressure that we
require to have this change.
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And and we can see, for instance, the
step change from 250 to 400,
96 milliseconds.
Right? So that's a pretty big step change,
and you could see it zoning in there
right on the chart. You can see it
really narrowing right in there so that on
the blue line, you you you you get
to your setpoint right away, and it looks
like it's constantly adjusting to there for Yep.
(24:05):
The variables of the system. So as the
system is is experiencing changes, that's, you know,
locking right in there on that setpoint.
Correct. So the red line means this is
the input given
from the system or the robot is being
already programmed
to have this kind of flow change because
this is a graph. Let's say let's say
a Ford F150 is going through a line.
(24:25):
Yeah? Mhmm. And you have a certain set
of parameters already preprogrammed
that how a robot should behave while painting
a Ford F150.
Sure. And whenever let's say they are painting
the hood of the F150 and you need
to change the flow rate from 250 to
400. So your set point always on each
f 150 will be this, 400. Mhmm. And
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to achieve this,
let's say, flow rate here, it will take
96 milliseconds.
Maybe sometimes it's lower, sometimes a bit higher.
That's called hysteresis,
and it will be less less than 1%.
It the values that you see green here
up and down, that will be always plus
minus 1%.
Hey, guys. Sean jumping back in here to
(25:08):
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(25:29):
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podcast.
It is still very exact
or, let's say,
close to exact for this kind of flow
rates and this kind of pressure ranges. Fast
too. Very fast. Very fast. Yeah. Yeah.
(26:32):
Yeah.
Yeah, apart from this, let's say another proof
point that we try to,
give our customers is a dew point sensor,
mainly
because
one of the important characteristics
of paint spraying is
controlling the humidity of the compressed air.
Because whenever you are spraying a standard paint,
(26:55):
be it in your home or even on
the cars or wherever,
if the air is too humid or too
dry, that means when it mixes with the
paint,
it might
deteriorate the quality of the paint that is
being sprayed. So if the air is too
humid, it might leave water droplets on your
surfaces,
which is, let's say, the quality might be
(27:17):
rejected in the end.
So, you need to maintain your dew point,
based on the industry
standards,
be it in automotive or aerospace.
Those dew point values are already always given.
And we have integrated a dew point sensor,
as you can see here, directly on the
air filtration,
module.
(27:38):
So before the compressed air lateral sensor monitoring
begins, you already have a dew point sensor
that gives the value
via our dashboard,
from the software to the production guys, and
they can see continuously how the dew point
is being varied.
And as soon as there is a change
of, let's say, we can have an upper
limit and lower limit, and whenever the due
(27:58):
point goes above and beyond those points,
we can have a notification issued to the
servers and they can react immediately.
Also, we can have a module installed that
might have,
impact on the robotic performance or robotic, let's
say, movements that can stop for a while
(28:19):
until the viewpoint is restored because it's always
easier to, let's say, have a quick stop
for 2 minutes to check the filters and
regulators,
before having to have rejected in the quality
check because of the paint issues.
So this is also a consolidated solution that
we can offer our customers directly also integrated,
(28:42):
beside the robot modules.
And because of our experience
into this application,
we know what our customers want.
We know how to solve those challenges.
And based on those experiences
and
values,
determined from our customer experiences,
(29:03):
we designed an integrated plug and play panel,
which comprises of all the important components that,
integrator of, Paint Robot might need
to have the maximum performance,
of the paint application.
That means they just can get with single
part number the whole plug and play panel,
which comprises of valve terminals,
(29:27):
2
proportional valves, ED07,
which is mainly for
flow control of the shaping air in and
out,
one more proportional valve for lower flow rate
to control the speed of the turbines,
and to flow sensors.
So all this mounted on a panel, a
metal panel, which has standard dimensions, which can
fit into, I think, most of the robotic
(29:48):
arms.
Even if not, we can have, extra cabinet
just beside the robot to, to mount all
these equipments,
and the parameterization
of the proportional walls are already been, let's
say, programmed for paint application. That means
integrators or even end users can just,
(30:09):
order this panel and have a plug and
play solution ready to go,
for their paint applications.
This makes it a little bit easier for
the procurement
guys as well. Oh, yeah.
And, last but not least,
I want to show what's next. So as
(30:31):
I told you, we keep on upgrading our
technology to make,
let's say, those applications
much faster and
maximize the throughput of the paint application as
much as possible.
And we are working on a new and
compact
design of our proportional walls because, of course,
because of the dual coil technology, it's a
little bit bigger than the standard proportional walls
(30:54):
in the market.
But we want to,
go ahead and have the next step with
integrated sensors
in the proportional valve body,
which allows for maximum efficiency and lowest possible
paint loss. That means these sensors are integrated
into the subbase. As you can see here
in the gray part, these are subbase attached
(31:16):
to
the ED07 proportional valve, which allows the flow
of compressed air fluid.
And you can see one cable going through
from the subbase to directly,
the proportional valve electronics.
So that means we are shortening the distance
of the feedback signals
from,
the subbase to the proportional valves. So that
(31:37):
means we will not need in the future
2 flow sensors
that we had in the earlier,
panels.
So this is a very compact design that
we are working on. We already have prototypes.
The results are also
excellent on that.
And, the main technology behind this is, new
developed newly developed venturi nozzle sensors that we
(31:59):
have implemented in this.
Will it still be
will it still be an ED 0 7
when it comes out?
Correct. So it will be a special version,
ED07
paint version, let's say. We'll have some,
special naming for that as well. Okay.
So that's something we have been working on,
very successfully,
(32:19):
and hopefully, it will reach the market soon.
And that's all from my side. I hope
I was able to give you a little
bit of insight on how Emerson
can help, solve customer challenges mainly when it
comes to paint applications.
Well, I thought that was very interesting. The
intro, just seeing the breadth of products you
have, a lot of those products,
(32:40):
I know discreetly from from being them being
separate and not part of the the Emerson
the big Emerson line of automation.
And then,
to see the solutions you have for the
robotic paintings,
applications,
especially with the dual coils down, the ED07.
Yeah. Very interesting. And the highest speed of
reaction too to be able to make those
(33:01):
step changes
and
and, get the flow right there within, you
know, under a 100 milliseconds. Right? So and
that was a pretty large step change too
as far as the process was concerned. So
no. Just very impressive,
and, you know, we'd love to have you
back in the future to talk about other
topics. But for now, was there anything else
you wanted to tell the audience before we
(33:21):
close out the show?
No. I think, we are pretty good on
that. And as as you told, like, for
the customers who are listening to this and
interested into paint solutions, the main target, as
as we told, is to reduce the overspray
and help you maximize the throughput of the
robotic paint solution, and that's what we are
here for. We have the experience
of doing that. We know exactly what kind
(33:42):
of components you will need, and,
we are we are here to make your
life easier.
So that's what, this is all about.
Yeah. Not only paint the whatever you're painting,
the truck or vehicle, whatever, faster Yeah. But
then have less sludge afterwards to treat. You
know, it's a win win because you save
money on material, on treating,
and your cycle times go up too. So
(34:03):
win win win. Correct.
Yes. Well, Summit, I really appreciate you coming
on the show. I thought that was very
interesting,
topic and just wanna thank you again for
coming on. Thanks a lot, John. Well, I
hope you enjoyed that episode. I wanna thank
Summit from Emerson for coming on the show
and not only bringing us up to speed
on their discreet automation group, which I thought
was very eye opening, but also to tell
us about their new solutions when it comes
(34:24):
to automated painting.
So I thought that was very interested as
well. Now if you enjoyed this episode, please
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time, my friends,
peace.
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