Why, Satan?!

In this episode, Jack, Cris and Sai sit down to wax philosphic about WHY we choose Satan as a mascot, is that problematic and why is it that we only go after Christianity (mainly Christian Nationalism). Do other religions share in the weight? and how many diiferent places CAN you beat a dead horse? All these questions and more will be answered in todays' episode!

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Episode Transcript

Intro Song (00:00):
Satan, satan, satan our Lord and Master.
I acknowledge thee as my God andPrince.
I promise to serve and obeythee as long as I shall live.
I renounce the other gods andall the saints.
Don't listen to them.
Don't listen to them.

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Greetings.
What is going on, heathens?
I'm Danny Filth from Cradle ofFilth and you are listening to
the Ave Satanas Podcast.
Join Jack, Cris and Sai and therest of the sinners of the free
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Satanism.
Hail Satan.

Jack Violently (00:59):
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That was a mouthful Boy.
Do we have a show for you today, guys?
Today is going to be anuncomfortable conversation, but
it's one that I think that it'simportant to have and to help us
navigate the discussion.
As always, we have the grandinquisitor of the free society,
satanist Chris.
What's going on, dude?

Cris (02:03):
It's going, man, it's going on.
Dude, it's going, man it'sgoing.
Have a pretty good day here sofar.
How about you?

Jack Violently (02:07):
yeah, sweating my balls off, dude.
It's like 75 degrees outside,uh yeah, we got bipolar weather
here in georgia and I'm sure ournext guest here is having
drastically different problems,being all the way up in the
northeast.
Uh, we are also joined today bythe co-founder of the free
society, satanist Sai.
What's going on?

Sai (02:27):
Yeah, definitely the weather is way different.
I mean I can relate to thebipolar weather.
Living in Pennsylvania, theweather is always back and forth
, left and right and in between.
But yeah, it's actually prettycold and windy up here today.

Jack Violently (02:47):
I would trade you for about another couple of
weeks.
I'm not ready for the cool, Iwon't say the cold but, the cool
to be gone just yet.

Cris (02:56):
Yeah, like right now, it's like perfect riding weather.
It's like 74 or somethingoutside.
Now I'm really struggling ofnot getting on my motorcycle
instead of doing this why notboth right?

Jack Violently (03:13):
I think these Rode pod mics only are rated for
wind resistance of, like mostpeople's breath, I'm not sure.
Podcasting while riding amotorcycle might not be the best
way, and you can absolutely beriding your motorcycle in the
next hour.
But right now we're going totalk about something that you
don't hear a lot about in theSatan sphere.
It's a topic that I think needsto have a little more

(03:35):
discussion on the matter, andthat is that Satanism shouldn't
only be considered ananti-Christian thought process,
as that can be problematic asChristianity itself.
So really kind of sparsing itout here, the first kind of you
know where we're going to go islike why Satan in general?

Cris (03:55):
Yeah, I had a small thought on that and you know,
the first question that comes tomind in response to that
question is why not Satan?
For the majority of people thatidentify as Satanists today, we
come from a society and afamilial tradition centered
around Christianity in some formor another.

(04:16):
But for those of us who don't,I mean for those of us who do,
when we started to rebel againstthose traditions, what figure
was there for us to latch on to?
A lot of us started out throughquestioning and then into
eventual atheism perhaps, and ata later time we were exposed to

(04:38):
the idea of modern Satanism.
I can speak for myself that whenI happened upon modern Satanism
it kind of scratched an itch Ihad at the back of my brain.
It made sense to me.
I was like solidly in the fuckreligion, fuck Christianity
mindset and the idea of foldingmyself into a community that had

(05:00):
similar ideals and utilized thefigure of Satan in direct
contradiction to the religiousideals and tradition I was
freeing myself from.
It just felt right, you know.
So Satanism using Satan feltright to me.
But again, I came from aChristian dominant background.
You know how about you, sai?

(05:24):
What's your thoughts?

Sai (05:27):
honestly, I think, to kind of dumb it down.
You know, um, I think a simplehypothesis to this quandary, if
you will, is you know, satan wasand and still is the majority
of what people blame the evilsin this country on.

(05:47):
And so I think LaVey, you know,started Satanism to, by naming
it Satanism, to capture andmystify a broader audience with
a much more well-known andcommonly used evil audience with
a much more well-known andcommonly used evil.

Cris (06:06):
Yeah, like wasn't it LaVey that said Satan has got the
church in business all theseyears?
Yep.

Jack Violently (06:17):
But in reality, though, the evils that cause the
most problem with people intoday's society come from more
benign places, and those placesare a lot closer to home.
You know, it's easy to blameSatan for the problems because
they don't want to, or they'retoo afraid to, confront what's
right in front of their nose.
So, like, the question for me,like why Satan?
That's a good one, because it'skind of a self-imposed problem.
When Satanism really first cameto prominence with LaVey, he
fashioned it to be like a mirrorshowing you the ugliest parts

(06:41):
of society back to you.
So the whole like you thinkthis is what Satanism, what
Satanists do, well, okay, well,we're going to be that.
Like, that mentality is whatshaped the idea of what it is,
even to this day.
So, in today's context of ustrying to like push it more
towards the voice that spoke,that speaks up and fights along
the tyrannized and the oppressed, that may take like a decade or

(07:03):
two, you know, before thepublic perception of Satanism
like really changes.
But, yeah, like blaming yourproblems on Satanism.
When it really comes to poorplanning or corporate greed or
religious greed or whatever,it's really easy to blame it on
Satan.
And I really enjoy, like whenyou watch the Super Bowl, you

(07:26):
know the winning team.
They always thank God, but thelosing team never blames them.
Yeah, it's like that type ofthing, that's a good point.

Sai (07:35):
Yeah, that's a good point.
It's like, well, we lost.

Jack Violently (07:38):
Fuck you, god.
You're the reason our kickerlost that very like that 35-yard
field goal.

Cris (07:41):
Like it's your fault, god, damn you yeah like and like to
one of your final points.
Like it might take a decade forthe public to perceive Satanism
the way that we would wish themto, should we even wish them to
.

Sai (07:59):
That's a good question.

Jack Violently (08:01):
Yeah, how somebody perceives you isn't
your problem at all, Like that'stheir problem.
Yeah, how somebody perceivesyou isn't your problem at all,
Like that's their problem.
I was more meaning for, likeyou know, to quit blaming Satan
for Amazon's problems, orExxon's problems or Walmart's
problems, or just organizedreligion.
Like you know, we have nothingto do with that shit.
That's y'all over there doingthat, blaming Satan for the

(08:32):
existence of people that are notwhite, cis, hetero, male,
exactly, yeah, too many brownpeople in this world, that's a
problem of satan, which, ifsatan gives us the best parties,
the best drugs and the bestmusic, hey man, give us more
brown people, dude, we'llfucking take it.
Then, party, party, the fuck onhey, I, I have been trying look
like we had the discussion indiscord the other day.

Cris (08:52):
Us white people are people without color.
There's a lot fewer of us whatwas that statistic?

Sai (08:59):
I think it was.

Jack Violently (09:01):
Uh, it's between eight and ten percent of the
world's population yeah, is iswhite and and we consider
ourselves the majority.
How very fucking, uh blind of athought is that?

Cris (09:13):
just a little egocentric, just a little bit, yeah, so a
little, a little backgroundcontext on that.

Sai (09:19):
I had a tiktok that I I saw and I posted in the discord and
it was this, uh, indiancomedian and he's like why don't
we just, you know, why arewhite people just the default?
There's people and then there'speople of color.
Well, why isn't it just peopleand people without color?

Jack Violently (09:39):
right, because white people are not the
majority in the world we, we'rethe anomaly.
And as a proud PWC, wait, waita minute.
That can go real bad, real fast.
I think I'm probably going tostop.
I don't want to get on mysoapbox Disregard, never mind
Back away.

Cris (09:55):
So, like getting back to our discussion, yeah, right.

Jack Violently (10:03):
Coming up into the next segment, it's a very
good topic to get back into.

Cris (10:06):
Yeah, it's a good segue we just had, so why is it
problematic?
That we call ourselves Satanist, or you know why?
Satan?
Why is that problematic?
Sai, you got anything.

Sai (10:18):
Yeah, I mean honestly for what it is.
I don't think the termanism isproblematic, um.
It was made when it was neededand we continue to use it
because it continues to have ause.
Um, it doesn't make the termless valid and, you know, it's

(10:40):
spreading to more people withbroader life experiences now and
so, if anything, it makes itstronger of an idea that it can
reach a larger audience.
However, with that in mind, wehave to be very mindful of that
powerful reach that it has so wedon't alienate people coming
from other religious backgroundsas well.

(11:03):
So much of satanism caters to,you know, one sole demographic
and you know that's again, itwas relevant at one point in the
past but, like many alternativespaces, it's not evolving
properly and keeping up with thetimes.
So I mean, at least in generalalternative spaces, they seem to

(11:23):
be catching on, thankfully,with, you know, post-millennials
, um.
However, satanism not so much.
Um.
Personally, like, I grew up amuslim until I was 12 years old
and you know the quran.
While it's the like lastinstallment, quote-unquote of
God's Word, um, naturally itteaches about the two

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quote-unquote installmentsbefore that, which is, you know,
the Torah and the Bible.
So I mean, even though I was aMuslim, I still had this a
little bit of backgroundinformation about Christianity.
But you know theanti-Christianity rhetoric that

(12:10):
is very, you know, prevalent inSatanism.
It hits only in the way that Ihate that it's forcing itself on
people in the US.
But I don't identify with thehate as an ex-member, I just
identify with the hate as anex-member.
I just identify with the hateas an outsider seeing what it's
doing to people.
So you know I don't have skinin the game, so to speak, as

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much as some other people.
And personally, as soon as Ihear that there's a sole episode
of you know, any podcast or Iwatch a lot of YouTube essays.
So any YouTube essays whereSatanists are harping on
Christianity, personally itdoesn't apply to me and so I

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skip it.
So I wonder how othernon-Christian backgrounds coming
into becoming Satanists youknow how they feel about that Do
they also just like they watchone or two episodes and then
skip it, or do they just skip italtogether?

(13:17):
And it's kind of alienating orothering to not talk about the
other.
You know theist ideologies.

Cris (13:28):
Yeah, like I kind of took this question a bit different
than you did, and I think thebetter question is, you know, is
calling ourselves Satanistproblematic?
And if so, how right?
And you know, I kind of feellike it's a valid criticism to

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say that constraining ourselvesto calling ourselves Satanist
can lend itself to a form oferasure for those people who are
with us who didn't take thesame journey out of Christianity
or a Christian background or anAbrahamic religion background
background or an Abrahamicreligion background.
We got a lot of people with uswho are never exposed to or
pressured to be part of anAbrahamic religion.

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You know, they were probablyexposed to but maybe they didn't
come from a family thatpressured them into that or
raised them in that.
So the figure of Satan asdefined by the Christian dogma
doesn't carry the same amount ofweight.
But I mean for me, broadlyspeaking, I think attaching a

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name to a thing gives gravitasto it.
So by calling ourselvesSatanists we're depending and
operating on and within theconnotations that it implies to
the religious.
But I mean more broadlySatanism as an identifier may be
flawed in and of itself becausewe are primarily an atheistic

(14:57):
type religion using Satanism,satan as the figure, the
literary figure of the adversary, satan as the figure, the
literary figure of the adversary.
But you know, we can look atother religions and see that
they also have figures that wereperceived or shown as the

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adversary.
You know, maybe we should callourselves Tiamatists after the
ancient Babylonian creationmyths, maybe we name ourselves
after the Sumarian demon, god,goddess, lamastu um.
And then I would, you know,offer like prometheans, because
prometheus was, you know,written as the one that went
against the divine order andgave fire to humankind.

(15:39):
You know, and there's a goodparallel there of satan is the
one that went against the divineorder to give humans knowledge
through the forbidden apple.
You know, I think Satanism it'smore of an ethos, right, we
don't need to get too caught upon the word Satan when we have a

(16:03):
broader goal in mind.
It works for us because itworks on the religious, for
better or worse.
Christianity, at least in NorthAmerica, is the predominant
religion where the highestcollection of people who
identify as Satanists exist.
So it fits, even if it'simperfect, I don't know, like,

(16:31):
at the end of the day I kind ofcome down to, you know, like the
playwright once wrote what's ina name, that which we call a
rose by any other name, wouldsmell just as sweet.
So that's kind of where I'llland on it.
I don't know if it'sproblematic, but I can
definitely see the argument thatit is.

(16:52):
So, jack, did you have anything?

Jack Violently (16:59):
No, I think you pretty much hit it on this.
So we've kind of talked aboutyou know why, saying and uh, why
is it problematic?
Um, I think now would probablybe a good time to kind of like
focus and, you know, split theshow up into two here and kind
of talk about our um, ourfundraisers, that we have going
on um this year yeah, yeah,definitely.

Cris (17:20):
Um.
So, like I've uh presented inother episodes, we here at the
Free Society Satanist havedecided upon running our first
fundraiser, and that fundraiseris going to go towards
benefiting the Metro AtlantaMutual Aid Fund.
It's a grassroots initiativecreated by community members

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from Metro Atlanta that'switnessed the needs of their
neighbors and decided to affectpositive change in the world and
to those that they can help.
They put their efforts intomeeting the needs of those
people who are the mostvulnerable in the current
economic climate and, let's faceit, the current political
climate as well, with a focus onthose people in the BIPOC

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community, as well as members ofthe LGBTQ plus community,
people with disabilities and theundocumented and refugee
communities.
If you want to know more aboutthe Atlanta Mutual Aid Fund, I
urge you to go toatlantamutualaidorg.
From there, you can read allabout their mission, the ways
that they help.
There's a direct donation linkthere.

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If you can read all about theirmission, the ways that they
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donate to them directly or ifyou'd want to join us.
We have a channel in our Discord, fss Fundraising, where you can
read more about our fundraisingmission.
Our fundraising effort willcontinue on until June 30th of

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July 1st of 2025.
So you can find our Discord atour website.
All of that will be in the shownotes.
So I please urge you to.
You know, just give that a look, see if it's something that
resonates with you.

Jack Violently (19:08):
And yet another way that you can also help aid
in our fundraising is buyingmerch, so we also will have
these links in the show notes aswell, has a woman who is much
smarter than myself told us onDiscord.
We need to start putting thisin the show notes too, so all
the information for ourfundraising will go down there
as well.
But if you don't want to donatedirectly and you want to get

(19:28):
yourself some swag and also likeor schwag, I guess I guess is
the appropriate term for it, Iwas showing my boomer age there.

Cris (19:36):
Satanic schwag my satanic schwag.

Jack Violently (19:39):
Yes, if you want to like, buy yourself a shirt,
some pins, a key chain, somestickers, whatever you want.
All the proceeds from anythingthat we sell go towards our two
fundraisers a year.
So, yeah, we've talked aboutyou know why Satan We've talked
about.
Why is it problematic?
Satanism is supposed to beinclusive, so why are some

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satanic collectives not?
My thought on this one is thatthe problem is leadership, pure
and simple.
In almost every instance ofcollectives, one thing keeps
happening over and over they'reusually headed up by white
middle-aged dudes.
And what do white middle-ageddudes want?
Power.

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Anything that can upset theapple cart and question their
perceived power is immediatelycast out.
Sadly, the same thing thathappens in the outside world
also happens here.
I swear I'm going to get thisetched on my fucking tombstone
when I escape this mortal coil.
But as I've said countlesstimes on this podcast, modern
Satanism is about joining thefight against tyranny and

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oppression and fightingalongside those who have been
trampled by that system, theunderserved communities.
How can you be inclusive andfight to lift those voices only
to keep them from having a sayin the most inclusive community
out there?
If there's one thing Satanistshate, it's a hypocrite by
silencing and ignoring thosevoices in a lens of satanism,

(21:06):
you are being just that very,very well said, I think um like
for me, you know, as satanist,we've made a choice to be part
of a marginalized group.

Cris (21:18):
It is a choice that we actively made.
We chose to set ourselves apartfrom that prevailing religious
choice of our culture andsociety.
We've chosen to attempt tostrip away and free ourselves of
our own personal journeythrough, into and ultimately out
of religion and step forwardinto what we feel to be an

(21:40):
enlightened path.
You know, we chose to join acommunity of like-minded
individuals while knowing fullwell the potential social,
cultural, familial impacts thatmay come from that choice.
Like across the vast majorityof modern non-theistic Satanist
spaces and organizations, weopenly profess an ethos that

(22:05):
speaks to a radicalself-reliance acceptance, as
well as providing a helping handfor those that would choose to
join us there.
But unfortunately sometimesthat doesn't happen in profit
and like in in reality.
You know we we have, you know,sometimes like a uh, you can't
be a true Satanist if kind ofand I've seen that play out in

(22:28):
some satanic spaces the FSS isowned the first, third and
eighth and ninth principle kindof speak to that ethos within
our own community, if you canread between the line.
And yet the very people whowould profess those ideals are
sometimes the one that breakthat covenant.
You know, I just, for instance,like there's this, there's this

(22:52):
thought process, like I wassaying, the no, true Scotsman
process.
Like you cannot be a trueSatanist unless X is always true
.
I've seen in some satanicspaces where somebody may come
in and say, oh, I came from abackground where I was not
religious, my family was notreligious, and and then, for

(23:13):
some reason, I've seen a coupleof times where people have given
them, given them, a little bitof a minor shit about that, as
as if, like they have to, to bea true satanist, you have to
come from some sort Right.

Sai (23:31):
I suffered for this, so should you.

Cris (23:34):
Yeah.

Jack Violently (23:36):
It was the episode that I did with Tomoe
from Hail, Philly.
You know where she was talkingabout.
Like she just pulled her lawnchair up and sat at the starting
lines of Satanism and said, ohcool, I like this place Didn't
come from religious trauma,didn't come from societal trauma
, both, like, from what Iremember, all of her parents and
her grandparents were justlargely like atheist.

(23:57):
So, yeah, it doesn't have to bethat somebody finds Satanism
through religious trauma.
It just kind of maybe is theway for most.
But yeah, treating those peoplewho find it honestly, who
didn't have religious trauma, itshould be looked at as like OK,
cool, you didn't have to sufferlike the rest of us.
Awesome, at least there'ssomebody here who has like a
little like more of a level head, you know, rather than like

(24:20):
torturing, like well, you'regonna suffer now, god damn it.
Like you know, like I don'tknow.
That idea is just stupid to me.

Cris (24:26):
I don't know, yeah, and, and it's one of those things
like ultimately, I think itstands to be said that satanists
as a whole have an elitismproblem and it's fucking vile
and we need to choose to bebetter within ourselves.
You know, if somebody new comesin, give that helping hand.

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If somebody has questions, givethat helping hand.
You know there's no fuckingroom for us to be elitists just
because we have chosen to bepart of the community.
That's supposed to be scary orwhatever.

Jack Violently (25:00):
You know well we could.
We could look down on otherpeople, but to to look at fellow
satanists, the same like we'reall here for the same thing,
like I.
I look down my nose at peoplewho strictly just hold on to
like that last religious thingbecause it helps them get
through the day.
Not really, I'm saying that abit tongue-in-cheek, but um, but
yeah, like looking down on yourfellow satanist, who maybe

(25:22):
isn't at the same, like they'rejust coming into it and you you
being into it for like a coupleof years, looking down, I'm like
, oh well, he doesn't know thisor she doesn't know.
That's fucking dumb.
Like they'll get thereeventually and why don't you
damn help them, you know,instead of like looking down on
them like you're the.
You've reached level six, 66Satanism.
Good for you.
You got a fucking badge.

Sai (25:42):
I got to reach the highest tier of unenlightened.

Jack Violently (25:47):
You have beaten the final boss.
Good for you, like whatever.

Cris (25:51):
When you reach a certain level of Satanism, do you get
like a special attack orsomething?

Jack Violently (25:55):
Right Do you have to roll for perception Come
on Roll three sixes for tripledamage, yes, but so my question
is why does this even matter?
What are we doing here?
Why does this?

Sai (26:13):
even matter.
Well, I mean, you know we couldharp on Christianity, right.
However, it's been done.
One leg of the horse is beingbeaten when we have the entire

(26:35):
horse to metaphorically beat.

Jack Violently (26:36):
Beat the horse Exactly.
If you're going to do, do it,do the whole thing, don't.
Don't.
Half ass two things, whole ass,one thing.
Yes, exactly.

Sai (26:42):
I'm sorry.
So you know, the true crux ofthe matter is satanism is not
just anti-christian.
You know, again, I, I grew upmuslim until I was 12 years old.
I, you know, come from a verydifferent background than
probably.
I'm going to throw a number outthere.

(27:02):
I don't know the statistic, butlike 90% of Satanists at this
point, I come from a differentbackground than an
anti-christian background.
And so I think when we just beatthis one leg of the horse and
we're complaining about onething over and over and over

(27:24):
again, it's it's just stale andwe need new perspectives and we,
in order to keep thatconversation going, to show that
satanism is still relevant andapplicable, in the first place,
we have to allow other peoplefrom other backgrounds to speak.
You know, contrary to popularbelief, there actually is loads

(27:47):
of material to go off of.
It's like every other facet ofWestern groups and media, not
including non-white,non-christian, even
non-Abrahamic people.
Jack and I, before we even madethis group, specifically wanted
to make this a safe haven fromtheism and an organized place to

(28:08):
be away from all of that.
So ultimately, my point isSatanism is anti-theist.

Jack Violently (28:15):
And so what I'm going to do now is I'm going to
start beating like the shoulderand the ribcage of this horse,
much like what Sai was saying.
You know, thinking of Satanismas simply anti-Christian is not
only insulting and invalidatingto other religions, it's also
insulting to Satanism.
The strictly American view ofSatanism as anti-Christian gets

(28:35):
its roots in the fact thatChristianity, sadly, is the
dominant religion here and thefact that it shapes a lot of the
laws that govern our society,and that includes non-Christian
members.
So, as we've said in many otherepisodes, we view Satan as the
opposition of authority andvoice that spoke out to tyranny
and oppression.
Among those voices that freesociety Satanists lift up are

(28:56):
the POC community and meaningthat community do not come from
the Christian background.
Among these demographics areex-members of Muslim and even
Jewish faith.
So, although Christianity isthe vocal minority, it would be
doing a disservice to representthose who left the Muslim and
Jewish and really any otherreligion where religious trauma
is rampant.

(29:16):
See, I would argue thatreligious trauma would be more
prevalent in these communitiesdue to their strong orthodox
beliefs and practices.
True Satanism should not pickand choose for the sake of
optics who it tends to go after.
True Satanists welcome anyonewho has religious trauma from
whatever walk of life they comefrom.
So, ultimately, I feel like thetrope of Satanists welcome
anyone who has religious traumafrom whatever walk of life they
come from.
So, ultimately, I feel like thetrope of Satanists being

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strictly anti-Christian is atwo-pronged fault.
It rests at the hands ofChristians making cringe posts
about Satanism to bolster theirnumbers.
Remember the old adage to unitethe people, give them a common
enemy.
But given the optic that it isan us versus them battle.
But it's also rest on theshoulders of Satanists to stand

(30:01):
up and fight the fight alongsideex-members of other religions,
as well as acknowledge them asbeing just as bad, and sometimes
worse, in the terms of traumainflicted on its members.
So here are the words directlyfrom my lips Anarchistic
Satanism and the free societySatanist do not, nor ever will
place any stock greater on onereligion than the other.

(30:22):
Our mission statement has andalways will be to lift up the
voices of the marginalized frommarginalized communities.
If it's Muslim, jewish,christian or the flying
spaghetti monster Just kiddingwe kind of think that one's
pretty cool.
But if you felt persecutionfrom any religion and you're
looking into Satanism as ashelter from the storm and a

(30:42):
place to grow and heal from pasttrauma, then we welcome you
with arms wide open.

Cris (30:49):
I knew you were going to do that.
I knew it Okay.

Jack Violently (30:53):
I haven't snuck in a Creed reference all year.
This is the first time longtime listeners of the show you
were waiting just for me, god I,I had to do it.
I was waiting for a side to getback on the show um long time.
Listeners will know, last year,at the end of 2024, we started
trying to see how long we couldgo by sneaking in creed
references, uh, into how manysequential episodes.

(31:15):
I think we're going to bringthat back this year.
I don't know.
I wanted to, you know, kind oflike lift.
You know, lift the levity a biton that one.
So you're welcome, Sai, andyou're welcome everybody that's
listening.

Cris (31:24):
Hell, yeah, creed we should start doing something
where we're putting in likelittle tidbits of like esoterica
commentary and at the end ofthe year, the person that emails
us with like this is whatyou've been referencing make it
something I have enough.

Jack Violently (31:41):
Yeah, you know what I have enough gear yeah, I
have like 2 500 stickers.
I have probably 300 pins and200 keychains.
Dude, we can put together.
We can put together a littlegoodie bag.
If somebody wants to do it,hell yeah, man.

Cris (31:55):
And it won't be Creed, because you just gave that one
away.
Yeah, we just gave that away.

Jack Violently (32:00):
We will have to start and implement one.
Yeah, let's think about that.

Sai (32:04):
We'll workshop it.

Jack Violently (32:08):
That came so naturally and I loved it.
The mic worked, my voice heldWith arms wide open.
Love it All, right, yeah like.

Cris (32:19):
So obviously, you know we've talked about all this and
I did have a question before.
I wanted to get kind of intowhat you know.
I have written down most of myresponses, so if you but this is
not part of my response and Iwanted to get into this because
it's something that si broughtup and it's something that, uh,
that jack touched on what doy'all think about the idea that

(32:45):
potentially, some of thereticence that people may have
on openly attacking jewish ormuslim faith, um, in lieu of
just going after Christianity,could be maybe some remnant of
not wanting to be perceived asracist?

Sai (33:09):
That's a good question.
Yeah, good question.

(33:31):
Honestly, you know, as theresident woman of color on this
podcast, I think if there isMuslim, she's very loosely a
Muslim, like she's not fastingright now, but you know she does
pray.
I think the last time she wentto a mosque was maybe two years
ago.
So very loosely, but it's there.
I think the word attack is veryharsh.

(33:54):
I think critique on an academicstandpoint is you know more
than valid.
You know, if we're going tocritique something like how
women are treated in, you know,islamic countries, that is a

(34:16):
very valid critique.
However, if we're going tostart attacking groups, that's
completely different For me as aSatanist.
Personally, I don't have aproblem if somebody has a
different faith.
I have no issue with that.

(34:38):
My problem is when it startsgetting forced onto other people
.
Then we have an issue.
Or if you're hurting someone inthe name of your faith,
religion, whatever, then we havean issue, issue.

(35:01):
Um, so I don't think that youknow we should.
I don't think the end goal ofSatanism is is completely
demolish, you know, any type ofother faith whatsoever, because
I think that just makes theworld a really pretty place is.
Everybody's got different.
You know points of views andbackgrounds and and faiths and
all of that, and we can.
In a perfect world, in myperfect world, we would all be

(35:23):
singing kumbaya or whatever andmaking s'mores together.
However, that's not the case.
That's not the case, and I dorealize there's a lot of racists
that are, unfortunately, in thesatanic sphere.

(35:43):
That kind of use their littleoh.
I never peaked in high school,so I'm going to peak now and use
that kind of you knowpersonality, if you will, to
bully other people when theycome into a satanic sphere, and
most of those people are veryracist, obviously white men, and

(36:09):
unfortunately that's themajority of a lot of satanic
communities.
And when you have that with theincel problem that we have in
this country, you know we havethe perfect storm of.
Oh, all of these edge lords areno now going around and
attacking people.
So I don't think attack to tobring it all to a close here, I

(36:34):
don't think attacking is theproper word for it.
If there is attacking 100%,that's racism.
Absolutely.
Other religions and religiousorganizations is the fact that

(36:57):
we pride ourselves on beingintellects and and you know, um,
academics if you will.
And so I think why not use thatto our strength and start
critiquing things you know as itis, instead of critiquing

(37:17):
cultures and the people critiquethe harmful practices?

Cris (37:22):
right, very well said.
I I totally agree with you.
Like, and when I asked thatquestion I did use the word
attacking and I, I didn't, Ididn't think about that word
when I asked that question, youknow, um, up to your point, I
probably should have saidcritiquing.
But yeah, absolutely, I 100%agree.

Jack Violently (37:43):
And really, like you know, the people that we go
after, I think it bearsdistinction.
You know, like a goodphilosopher and great mind of
the 20th century, george Carlin,has said you know, religion is
a lot like having a dick it'sgood to have, you can be proud
of it.
Don't go waving it around inpublic and, for God's sakes,
don't go shoving it down kids'throats.
So the people that we go after,the people that try to make

(38:08):
Christianity or religion A, b orC somebody else's problem, if
they're just proud to be theirreligious nomination and they
just go about life and do noother harm than that, then, good
man, like congratulations, youfound something to get through
life.
Not everybody does.
But it's when you start makingit other people's problems and

(38:28):
you start burdening other people, that's ultimately where we
should start focusing it on, andit shouldn't just be
Christianity.
But so the whole reason why Itend to choose Christianity as
the thing that I go after isbecause they're like the vocal
minority it's what you hearabout the most.
You don't hear too much about,like Jewish people going after,

(38:51):
like you know, like saying, well, we need to make laws against
this or we need to, like youknow, these people are demonized
.
It's loud, backwards ass.
Southern Baptists who have themicrophone and they are also,
like you know, like I had saidbefore, the vocal minority.
So you know, to go aftersomebody who is just proud of a
faith and who just lives by afaith and leaves people alone,

(39:13):
if you go after those peopleyou're kind of a dick.
But like to go after somebodylike the Westboro Baptist Church
, they're a real easy target togo after because they make it
easy for themselves.
They paint that X right ontheir fucking chest.
Then at that point I meanyou're doing a net positive, you
know.
So it's finding out what youare supposed to be going after.
And it's not every religiousperson, because there are people

(39:36):
much like us who approach ithonestly and want to represent
their faith honestly and withoutproblem.

Cris (39:46):
So I don't know like I'm rambling at this point now I
can't talk myself out of thisroom, good yeah, and it's one of
those things like we should bewatchful in our own spaces to
not fall into the traps thatfocusing solely on Christians
can lay for us, traps that wouldturn away the marginalized
people who may come fromsomething other than the white

(40:08):
Christian background that youand I have, jack.
We've got to be careful not tominimize or trivialize the lived
experiences of our fellows ifthey have not traveled that
similar path.
And it's so easy to do.
It's such an easy fucking trapto ensnare us.
We are legion, we are many,after all.

(40:31):
See and I did something thereEven in that simple expression,
I've utilized words that havecome directly from the book of
mark in the christian bible.
It's easy, it's so easy to fallinto that line of thinking
because, because it's part ofour lexicon, right, it's if
we're to call ourselves what wecall ourselves, then I believe

(40:52):
we got to recognize that aseemingly laser focus on
anti-Christian rhetoric ismalformed in its concept.
We are truly, like Cy and likeJack has said, an anti-religious
, anti-theist organization andmindset in general.
We've got to change our ownthinking model, our baser

(41:16):
instincts, and measure our handin order to strike at the thing
that we actually care to, which,in my opinion, is the breaking
of chains that bound us once toreligion and breaking the chains
that religion has on thesociety that surrounds us.
Whatever religion that may befor you, whatever pathways that

(41:38):
were set for you by familial orsocietal tradition, ultimately
you got to understand and yougot to remember that it was you,
it was us, that found thepathway to where we are, to
where you are today, in yourjourney through Satanism or if
you're listening to us andyou're just curious about
Satanism or you're curious aboutquestioning, you know you are

(42:03):
the one that has done that thatwork.
Even in Satanism, a lot of usstill have a lot of
deprogramming to do on ourselves.
Too many of us fall into thosetraps.
Too many of us find ourselvestemporarily blind to the
overarching truth that what wedo is for ourselves and that, at

(42:25):
least on some level, we are asatanic community to satisfy a
human evolutionary need forcommunity and fellowship.
I think In our numbers we haverepresentation of all facets of
human existence.
We've got to see that.
We've got to understand thatand not be so myopic in that we

(42:49):
find ourselves even unwittinglymarginalizing the voices of
those who would come, maybe,from non-Christian spaces and
like to kind of size point inthat impromptu question that I
had we've also got to be mindfulof maybe our own ignorant
racism, our own ignorant hatred.

(43:12):
You know I was.
I was talking to a good friendof mine last night and we were
talking in depth about racism ingeneral and he told me a story
about someone that he knew thatwas so casually racist because
they had never been.
They were, they didn't grow upin an area that had a lot of POC
.
A lot of it was a whitecommunity.

(43:35):
I think in their yearbook theyhad like three people of color
in the entire book, includingstaff and, uh, teachers, and
they would just be so casuallyracist without ever knowing it.
And there's that, there's thatfact, you, there's ignorant
racism that we've got to bemindful of.

(43:55):
There's that ignorance thatwe've got to be mindful of and
grow from.
So that's kind of where I'm aton it.

Jack Violently (44:01):
I know that was kind of rambling, but yeah, um,
you said at the very beginningyou know about not minimize or
trivialize the lived experienceof our fellows just because they
haven't traveled the samereligious backgrounds as us, and
I think it breaks down to beingself-absorbed and ignorant
versus willfully ignorant.
So I heard this saying.
It's like never attribute tomalice what you can attribute to

(44:23):
incompetence.
So meaning like if we'relooking down on somebody and
we're just putting what, well, Ithink I suffered more than you.
A lot of the world's problemscan be solved by changing your
way of thinking.
So what I like to do is I liketo think things through the
alternate universe theory.
So what if the world wasexactly opposite as it was now?

(44:44):
So I'm now thinking throughyour point of view.
So anytime somebody like youalways hear like well, white
people had it hard too.
No, the fuck, we haven't.
Since when?
And they always use the mostbenign like well, the Irish were
used as slaves.
So who the fuck cares?
You know like to think aboutpeople's problems from their

(45:06):
point of view and to see like,well, what if I was the one who
had to go through that?
What would?
What would my frame ofreference be?
What would my tone be?
What would my frame ofreference be?
What would my tone be?
What would my thought processbe?
No-transcript interaction, justby thinking things through the
other side of the coin, and indoing so you can go well, I was

(45:28):
going to respond like this, butnow I see if I say that
somebody's going to like thisperson will find that offensive.
So you know, the trivializingand minimizing the experience of
our fellow people canultimately be negated if you
just simply think about thingsthrough the other person's
perspective, which most people,a lot of people in today's world

(45:50):
are unwilling to do.
So take that.
You know, that's a free lessonfrom Jack here, the alternate
universe theory.
When you're out in public andyou see somebody like maybe you
know you're at Walmart or you'reat the grocery store, you see a
homeless person stuff somethingin their jacket and try to walk
away, don't think of it as likethat person stealing.
Think of it as that person istrying to survive the day and

(46:13):
put yourself in that position.
Try to think about it Likeultimately people would look
down oh, they're stealing theirtrash.
Think about if you had to dothat.
Think about if you had to dothat to survive the day.
Would you do it and would youcare what people said about you?
Ultimately, I think the answerwould be no.
You would not care what peoplethought about you.
And you can broaden that onceyou know that one little trick,

(46:36):
you can broaden that to thewider masses and think about any
problem through the lens of theperson going through it, and
that can, that can solve a lotof problems that we go through
today.

Sai (46:45):
I don't know I think, um to , to add to your ignorant racism
, you know, uh, point the waythat and I mean I'm not saying
I'm perfect by any meanswhatsoever I've had instances
where people come up to me andthey're like, hey, did you know
that this was like this certainterm was a slur which I had no

(47:09):
idea at that time.
You know, did you know thatthis thing was, you know,
offensive to somebody?
and I did not know at the timehow you react in these
situations kind of shows theother person what type of person
you are yeah, so you know, ifyou, if you react with shock and

(47:31):
you're like, oh wow, I did notknow, I'm so sorry, that kind of
sets the tone for the rest ofthe conversation and
interactions with thatparticular person or people,
because now they see, oh, thisperson didn't know, I can't hold
them to this.
You know this standard becausethey had no idea.

(47:52):
Um, however, I think honestly Ithink a lot of americans have
this mindset of I need to knoweverything all the time and if
you don't know this, you'rewrong.
Um, a lot of people get verydefensive because of this
mindset.
A lot of people get verydefensive when they get called

(48:14):
out for certain things and thatdoes not help your, your stance
at all.
Yeah, as soon as you getdefensive, you have shown that
you do not care whatsoever, andI think life is constantly
learning and evolving.

Jack Violently (48:32):
If you're not constantly learning and evolving
, you're with the dinosaurs, bro, like yes Cris and I had a
really good talk on the paradoxof tolerance episode a few
episodes back and, um, we kindof attribute you to being one of
the reasons or one of the waysthat I like challenging people's
thought processes, and it'ssimply a one-word question and

(48:54):
that is why.
So you know, like if you catchsomebody on a bad day and say
something kind of crazy and outof pocket, you go why did you
say that?
Like, what do you mean by that?
And I had said it back in theshow before you can go back and
listen to it.
But it's that one question thatyou taught me way back in the
day has such weight and it'ssuch a sharp knife to use right

(49:15):
out of the rip, because they caneither go oh damn, no, dude,
you're right.
No, yeah, I did say that wrong.
Fuck, you know, like, yeah, Idon't really think that way, but
you know I'm having a bad day,shit just came off weird.
Or, like I said in the othershow, they sign their name to it
and you can now know that thatis a person that I'm going to
treat with contempt because theydoubled down and they signed
their name to it.

(49:38):
I've learned a lot from you overGod it's been just about a year
, but that's been my mostfavorite thing that I've learned
from you, to which you havetaught me many things on on many
different days, but I've keptthat one close to the vest this
whole time, so I do appreciatethat life lesson well, thank you
yeah, so I think we've kind ofcovered everything for today, um

(50:03):
I think we beat all the legs.

Cris (50:05):
Something like that.
I think we left the ears intact, but we're getting there.

Jack Violently (50:11):
We're now hitting the horse and the jaw
and the face.
We're tenderizing this horsemeat.
We're going to have such goodhorse burgers coming up after
the show.
This meat will be super tender.

Sai (50:20):
And then glue for later.

Jack Violently (50:21):
Yes, this glue will be the most velvety soft
glue you've ever put on paperthe best glue you ever huffed.
Hey, now I mean, if it's gonnabe that kind of party.
Um, one thing that we haven'tdone in quite a while.
Um, chris actually reminded mein chat.

(50:43):
I kind of forgot about this.
Um, long-time listeners of theshow would notice that we would
end most episodes with musicrecommendations.
And man, have we had somereally good shit come out over
the past couple of weeks.
Man, cy, do you have any musicthat you've been jamming to?

Sai (51:00):
Oh boy, that is such a loaded question for me.

Cris (51:06):
This is called putting you on the spot.

Jack Violently (51:08):
This is padding our stats at this point.
Yeah, go ahead.

Sai (51:11):
This is so yesterday.
For anybody who knows me, Ilisten to so many different
genres of music, it's not evenfunny, but yesterday in
particular, three artists orbands released an album all
yesterday, so my morning wasstacked.

(51:32):
Spirit Box released a new album, lady Gaga released an album.
Whitechapel released an album.

Cris (51:40):
That's a whole mix.

Sai (51:43):
Exactly yeah.

Jack Violently (51:44):
And Ghost has teased and released a new song
to release a new papa.
So that's pretty cool too.

Sai (51:53):
Yeah, just a very stacked march so far, but I think I
would have to recommend DiabolicSlumber by Whitechapel off of
their new album Hymns ofDissonance.

Jack Violently (52:13):
Yeah, with that drop there, spirit Box was
really one of the only one outof the big three but besides
Ghost but their album hasn'tcome out yet Spirit Box is the
one that really hit closer to meand I love Spirit Box.
Okay, so when I listen to music, I think about things like kind
of esoterically, what does thismusic remind me of?
And her voice, mixed with this,like kind of ethereal

(52:35):
staggering that she does, itsounds to me like the
personification of flying.
I don't know why.
I think that Spirit Box alwaysreminds me of a bird, just kind
of flying through the air.
And when it gets hard.

Sai (52:47):
I can envision that actually.

Jack Violently (52:49):
And when it gets hard and like he starts
growling and it turns to like anair battle, like I don't know,
like birds aren't really likefighting in the sky or nothing,
but like it turns to like a dogfight where there's like a bunch
of like planes and bombs andshit going off, but then her
voice always brings it back tothe calm and soothing air flight
.
I don't know, that may be tootoo out of the way.
I've done a lot of acid in mylife but, um, I love the new

(53:13):
spirit box album.
There was a ton of good stuffon there and I am I'm a huge fan
of the other stuff that they'veput out as well I think black
rainbow was probably my favoriteon that album keeping sweet
wasn't too bad.
Um, that was just because I knewlike kind of the nod they were
giving to the mormon faith.
That was a song that like keepsweet was part of the warren

(53:33):
jeffs, like they would have thaton their wall.
So that's kind of a dig atreligion, I think.

Cris (53:39):
Uh, but you know that song was killer every time warren
jeffs is brought up inconversation, I physically
cringe like it's his facedoesn't do him any favors either
now like, uh, and I'm a lotlike, so I listen to a lot of
things uh, all the way.
Obviously I kind of focus onlike death metal, extreme metal

(54:02):
stuff like that, but also have areally strong electronic and
industrial background.
So recently I went to go seecyclone nine in concert for the
first time in like 10 years orsomething and they just came out
with a new track.
Um, I think that they're goingto be releasing an album here

(54:23):
pretty soon, but the new trackis called devil's work.
Um, I definitely give that alisten on spotify.
It's a interesting uh evolutionof their sound where, when
cyclone first came out, um, theywere very much so in what was
what's called the agrotech genre, where it's industrial but a

(54:46):
lot of like death metal vocals,hard riff kind of stuff.
So Cyclone Nine's Devil's Workis one that's been on my
playlist recently and on theother complete different side of
the spectrum, this album cameout a couple of years ago, but
I've been listening throughBilly Str strings's album me and

(55:06):
dad.
Um, it's an album that he didwith his father.
Um, his father is the one thatintroduced him to bluegrass.
It's an amazing album, um, andit was so cool to, you know hear
an album that he brought hisdad in on.
There was a.
There's a documentary a littleit's like 30 minutes on YouTube

(55:27):
about making that album with hisdad.
It's just a wonderful littlewatch and it's a wonderful
listen.

Jack Violently (55:34):
I have such mad respect for Billy Strings
because, being a guitar playerand a musician for well over 25
years, to play that fast on anacoustic guitar is almost
fucking impossible.
So when you think about theguys who shred, the guys who
like play super fast, the actionof the strings, the height from
the strings to the neck issuper low.

(55:55):
You almost have to exert noforce into fretting the strings.
On an acoustic guitar thataction is almost quadrupled what
a metal guitar would be.
So you've got to have a fingerstrength and to be able to play
that fast and press the stringsdown that hard.
He's a monster dude.
Dustin Baggy was the first songthat I had heard from him and

(56:17):
it quickly went from there.
The fire on my tongue is agreat one.
Um, I love Appalachian music,um, what I would call like rebel
country or punk rock country ohyeah he's super like,
identifies that.
And there's another guy, wells,if you, if you aren't familiar
with wells, super, I've heardI've heard a little bit um.

Cris (56:38):
I like bluegrass kind of suffers from this like
traditionalism aspect, whereit's basically all the same
chords, all the same kind ofsongs.
There's the old guard and Ithink it's really more so the
fans, more so than the actualartists themselves, don't really
like new things about thingsgoing on.
Um, and billy, I think, reallystraddles that line incredibly

(57:02):
well about bringing new thingsto the arts and still having
that firm basis in thetraditional bluegrass sound.
Um and for you, since you are abig guitar head, have you heard
, uh, bloodbath by polyphia?

Jack Violently (57:19):
I understood both of those words being
english, but put them togetherand I had no idea.

Sai (57:25):
Good, is it polyphia or polyphia?
Polyphia?

Jack Violently (57:28):
oh, I know, yeah okay, you were saying, you were
saying it kind of weird.

Sai (57:32):
Okay, yeah, um the I've always heard it uh pronounced
polyphia, polyphia, I've heardit the other way yeah, I know
the band, but I've I've listenedto maybe a few songs, so I am
not like the authority on onthat band.

Cris (57:46):
I'll put up a link to bloodbath by polyphia in the
music channel on our discord.
Go listen to it.
It features chino moreno ofdeftones.

Jack Violently (57:55):
It is an incredible song knowing scion
her love for new metal when wewere teenagers.
Yes, um, and she wasn't evenborn.

Cris (58:04):
Um her love of that I mean , you were like three, I was 16
I was.

Jack Violently (58:12):
96 was when deftones were like peak
deftonian.
She was not of this mortal coilat that point in life.

Sai (58:18):
Yes, I was.
I was born in 95, I was onewhole year old.

Jack Violently (58:22):
You were sitting on the couch, man, you were
fucking, you were sitting there,couldn't do a goddamn thing no,
I can't, I don't know wassitting on the couch, what the
fuck?
I remember smoking so much pot,listening to the deftones
riding around in my friend's carjust going god, life can't get
any better than this and young16 year old jack would find out

(58:44):
that I was correct.

Cris (58:46):
Life couldn't get much better than that honestly,
deftone's white pony album isjust the perfect album through
and through.

Jack Violently (58:56):
10 out of 10 cannot be replicated the
adrenaline album uh seven wordsoh yeah nine, nine, engine
number nine and seven words thatthat was skater Andrew.
For like the three months Ithought I was a skater until I
broke my wrist and I was likethis is fucking stupid.

Cris (59:13):
And it's one of those things like adrenaline is an
awesome album.

Jack Violently (59:17):
Yeah.

Cris (59:17):
But I have some significant memory loss from,
like, my teenage years.
But I can clearly rememberstanding in line at the record
store buying the white albumwhen it came out or white pony
rather, I said white album, butyeah, buying white pony when it
came out that day and putting iton my cd player, my disc man

(59:38):
that I always kept in my jinkopockets if you want to smuggle
in a double deuce into anyconcert or anything, smuggling a
40 ounce.

Jack Violently (59:47):
That back pocket was there to help you, man I'll
be wearing the purple.

Sai (59:52):
I will be wearing the purple track suit at the
upcoming ghost uh concert at themeetup.

Jack Violently (59:58):
So I'm glad, I'm glad you brought it back around
.
I was gonna say that couldn'tbe time perfectly, by the way it
couldn't have been time moreperfect, okay, this, this last
band is gonna produce 50 groansand 50 hell yes from the people
in this room right now bestknown as scooby-doo metal
scooby-doo metal.
Uh, the abba of of black metal,ghost released satanized, to

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which they also kind of teasedPapa V or Papa 5, however you
want to say it, papa Perpetua,that would be the name Cy.
What did you think about thatsong?

Sai (01:00:33):
I thought it was really good.
I can't wait for the rest.
I can't wait for April, andthen I can't wait for the meetup
, because the first day of themeetup is the concert.

Jack Violently (01:00:44):
So we here at the Free Society Satanist once a
year we may even bump it up totwice a year later on down the
line if we get more people.
Once a year we have a meetup,and this year's meetup is going
to be in Atlanta, georgia.
The meetup is called the DevilWent Down to Georgia and it's
going to be July 11th throughthe 14th.
Just so happens, july 11th,ghost will be at State Farm

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Arena in my fair city, atlanta,georgia.
And God damn it, this will bethe first time I get to see
Ghost and I am fucking pumped.

Cris (01:01:12):
Atlanta is going to be destroyed that weekend because,
like two days later, it'sBeyonce.

Sai (01:01:17):
Oh my, God, when Beyonce came to Philly, everything shut
down.
It was the same when TaylorSwift came to Philly too.
So, like it, it's gonna be hellbeyonce and taylor.

Jack Violently (01:01:28):
Swift played atlanta beyonce.
I think taylor played fridayand beyonce played saturday.
It fucked our city up fromthursday to monday like traffic
was crazy.
But I was talking to uh, to yousai and a couple of the other
people in the chat.
So Atlanta's mass transitsystem is called MARTA and we

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have a north-south line and aneast-west line.
Our train system is archaic asfuck.
But I was thinking to myselfanytime there's like a big event
happening in the city.
How you'll know is you canstand at the intersection, the
Five Points MARTA station, andyou see people getting off and
on the train to your averagemardi user who is just using it

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to go to work, come home, dothis and that.
Then you see 300 people dressedlike this insane pope with like
skeleton faces and he's wearinglike the big pope's outfit, or
a thousand nameless ghoulswalking through the marta
station.
Imagine the daily martTA usergoing.
What the fuck is happening inAtlanta right now?

Cris (01:02:30):
That's the thing I love about Atlanta we go hard when it
comes to concerts.

Jack Violently (01:02:35):
Yes.

Cris (01:02:35):
Especially like death metal concerts.
You'll see people just pouringin and like full corpse paint.
It's amazing.

Jack Violently (01:02:44):
And Ghost being one of those bands that's like
very, they're very showmanship,like that's 90% of what they do.
They write good songs, but theyalso rely heavy on showmanship,
so their fans tend to do theface paint, wear the hat.
Some people wear the full regaland if you're not used to or
you don't know that that'shappening in your city, you just

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think that the city is nowbeing overrun by zombie poops.
What the fuck is going on?

Sai (01:03:12):
so well, I think um what was it?
Uh, it was last tour, I believe, um there were a few venues
that made people take theirtheir face paint off for the
last ghost tour, so, so I hopethat doesn't happen at this
venue.

Jack Violently (01:03:29):
The face paint being one thing, I can
understand if you have a big hat.
You're going to be messing upthe view from people behind you.
But if you have face paint, whogives a fuck?
What does face paint have to dowith shit?
I can understand the big Popehat, just for people having to
stand behind you.

Sai (01:03:45):
We're not getting pat down like we're going through TSA
anyway getting into concerts now.

Jack Violently (01:03:51):
I mean getting a half handy in a concert.
I mean shit, dude.
I mean we have been going foran hour now and I think that is
probably a good place to end on.
Does anybody else have any moremusic that they kind of wanted
to bring up that they wereexcited about?

Sai (01:04:09):
That's just those three releases that have been on my
mind.

Cris (01:04:12):
There you go.

Jack Violently (01:04:13):
We took it from Whitechapel to getting a soft
handy at a ghost concert.
I think we can end it here,guys.
We're really appreciative andrespectful and thankful for all
of you guys for listening to usover this past six months.
Thank you for sticking aroundwith us.
First of all and we do not takeyour trust lightly.

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We hope to bring you more greatcontent coming up in the very
near future.
But until next time, guys, hailSatan and hail thyself.

Cris (01:04:46):
Deuces.

Sai (01:04:47):
Bye.
This is where the devil dies.

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Satan, Satan, Satan, our lordand master.