Join internationally known channeler Steve Rother and special guest Tom T. Moore—author of Conversations with Gaia, Vol. 1 & 2—for a deeply revealing and validating conversation.
Tom shares the extraordinary story behind how his dialogues with Gaia began, and the process that led to 8 groundbreaking books filled with wisdom from higherconsciousness. In this episode, Tom and Steve explore ancient civilizations like Atlantis and Lemuria, compare notes from their spiritual guidance, and uncover powerful predictions for the U.S. West Coast in 2026.
Whether you're new to Tom’s work or a longtime reader of his newsletters and articles, this conversation brings clarity, hope, and essential foresight for the road ahead.
Topics Covered:
• How Tom began channeling Gaia• Atlantis, Lemuria & multidimensional civilizations• Validated messages from spiritual guidance• West Coast U.S. predictions for 2026• What Gaia wants us to know now
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Music. Hi, everybody.
Welcome. Welcome to the Back Story
Podcast. I'm very excited today to bring
you up a very dear old friend ofours, Barb and I have met with
him and his wife Dana's for quite some time, quite a few
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years. It's been really interesting to
watch his growth in this area ofspirituality and some of the
incredible things that he's beendoing.
So I'm very honored to share with you today, Tom Timor.
Tom is been a regular contributor like I have been in
the Sedona Journal. I'm not quite sure how long, but
we'll find out in just a minute.But he's been he's been doing
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some incredible work here for quite some time.
And I'm just very honored to bring Tom in to Tom, how you
doing? Doing great, Steve, so great to
to be back with you again. And it's, it's been a while and,
and happy, happy to see you're doing well.
And and you know, let's let's give the folks some interesting
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things today. Exactly, exactly.
Well, I am going to ask you somequestions.
Obviously you've we we met a long time ago.
I don't even how many years ago it was, but we met a long time
ago. We had dinner one time with Barb
and I had dinner with you and Dina and just it was it was it
was wonderful. I remember that and I remember
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that everything kind of shifted for both of us after that.
We both kind of went on a littlebit of a skyrocket, if you will,
and life change could have been.And as as I mentioned to you
before, most of the people that watch this are teachers and
healers in their own right. So they're very interested in
most of the time how you got there, what happened to you,
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what took place and how you got started in this whole process.
So let me start with that question, how, how'd you get
started? How'd this work for you?
OK, I'll sort of give you 3 three points in my life that
that were really significant. First, I was, I was reading the
Sedona Journal one day and therewas a channeled article by
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Robert Shapiro and in it ZOS, who is he was channeling said
there said you can request benevolent outcomes in your
life. Well, at that time, I'd tried
the law of attraction. That wasn't working very well.
And so I said, hmm, that sounds interesting.
It just rang a bell with me. And so I started trying it out,
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saying these benevolent outcomesout loud, testing it out, and it
worked perfectly. And I've never been able to say
that by any modality that I'd ever used.
So I, I continued on from there and eventually wound up even
writing some articles for the Sedona Journal.
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And then, but the second thing that happened was that we went
to see an event that you and Barbara held many years ago.
This is before or even my first,maybe the first article, I can't
remember. And, and you were doing these
two-minute readings at breaks. And so I I when it was my turn,
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I said, you know, we stepped up there and you said, Tom, you
almost died recently. And I said, no, I don't think
so. And Dina, my wife stepped in and
said, yes, do you remember can where you lost, you had
diverticulitis and lost 40% of your blood?
Oh yeah, I forgot. And so you said, well, you know,
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what's your Plan B? And so I thought for a minute
and I said, you know, I want to share and and help everybody
with the general. Pardon me, this is before to
help everybody with benevolent outcomes.
And I said that out loud. So then Fast forward on a ways
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and Dina and I went to a seminarheld in Sedona, AZ with the Dick
Suplin and he was putting it wascalled a seminar to Increase
Your Psychic Abilities. And so he would put us under and
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into these light altered States and we would do certain things.
On the second day he he wanted to put us under and have us try
automatic writing. Well, at that time I had had a
shaman by the name of real reveals the mysteries that that
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Robert Shapiro had channeled forme.
And so I decided I wanted to seeif I could contact him.
And so when he put us under, I said, reveal some mysteries.
Are you there? And he said, yes, I am Tom.
And I said, wow, this is great. And he went on to tell me.
He said, Tom, you reincarnated into this time period to
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reintroduce people to the gentleway.
So he gave me the name of my first book, the very first time
I ever spoke with him. And then he said, you're going
to write books. And I said, no, no, no, I'm a
business guy. I I thought I was going to be
doing International Film and TV program distribution till I
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retired. And he said no books.
So I said OK. And so I wrote my first book,
The Gentle Way and then he and and but on on my website that I
created. It was
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www.thegentlewaybooksingular.combecause I never thought I'd ever
be able to write another book. And write.
With my 7th and 8th books comingout in the couple of weeks.
So that's how I started. Incredible.
That's amazing. Yeah.
I remember, I remember seeing some of your earlier writings in
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the Sedona Journal. We're all about benevolent
outcomes. And I I have to say, I didn't
understand it completely until you started writing about it.
I had heard, I had read some of the things from Robert Shapiro
about benevolent outcomes and how people.
But when you put your your focuson it and started writing some
of those things that made it just gained a whole new meaning
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to me about how that was coming.And yeah.
Because you're doing you're doing these out loud.
And the way I, I understand it now is that when you request
these benevolent outcomes out loud, it eventually scientists
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will be able to understand the power of the verbal spoken word.
And that's, that's what's happened when you request these
benevolent night comes. It goes directly to whatever you
want to call it, Source, universe, God, creator, I'd like
to call it creator. It's handled by your guardian
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angels, I'm told. And and if it's within your soul
contract then you will have thatrequest granted.
That's amazing, absolutely amazing.
Yeah. The group has mentioned
something very similar. They they've said for many
years, they said, you know you can your creator beings, you're
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all going to create things no matter what you do.
But something is really magical when you speak your voice and
those vibrations come around andgo in your own ears.
That's when many of the many of the magics really start as you,
you actually grounded in a wholedifferent way that way.
So that's that's very. Magical.
It's called magical today, but Ithink someday in the future,
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scientists will be able to provethe, the, the power of this
verbal voice. Because I'm even telling you
know that the pyramids were built by having groups of of 300
men, women and children chantinga, a, a certain sound, a certain
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chant that lifted these huge bags of cement that were, that
were then transported to the pyramids and poured in place.
And that's, that's how they built the pyramids.
That's. Amazing.
One story I'm telling. Amazing stuff.
Yeah, I, I think we're finding out a lot of stuff about that.
They've they've discovered the tunnel under the under the Giza
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pyramids and, and how, how deep that starts to go.
It's just absolutely amazing things.
Well beyond it, you know, one other thing I want to ask you
about because I've seen the progression of the books that
you've written, the progression of your work in the Sedona
Journal, because those are really the only two things I I
get to see. I don't get to follow people's
websites. But and by the way.
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In March, I submitted my 200th column to the Sedona.
Did you really? Incredible, incredible.
I think we just celebrated 20 years.
I have no idea how many that is,but it's been.
That's the only way I know it. Yeah, it's, it's been
incredible. So it's, it's just been and
they're wonderful people. Sedona, Melody and and everybody
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involved and Monica and they've just incredible people that
really have have the Earth's interest in in humanity at heart
here. It's just very magical people.
So one of the things that I, I have experienced recently, I
have always had a resistance of talking about E TS.
I have no idea what it was. I mean, all you have to do is
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look in the sky. If you realize how many galaxies
are really out there, there's ofcourse there's other beings
around and so forth, that I've always had this innate
resistance about talking about it until recently.
And I know that was one of the gifts that you did.
In fact, you wrote a whole book about it, did you not?
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Yes, that came out in 2013, and then I've continued to ask even
probably thousands of questions since then.
I was in in 2008. I was talking to my guardian
Angel, Theo, who I named after. He told me that that humans
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don't have the vocal cords to pronounce and tell him names and
that I could call him Tom, Dick or Harry, but Tom says that's my
name would be a little hard in my meditation.
So I thought for a while and came up with the name Theo.
And so we were talking one day about some runs on the other
side of the world and he said, you know, you're going to get to
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see those one day. And I said, oh, yeah.
He said, yeah, there's a there'san ET that's monitoring our
conversation. And if you'd like, you can talk
to him. And I was floored because I
thought I was having this private conversation with my own
guardian Angel. And it was like what you would
call in the old days, a party line.
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And. So you're dating yourself now?
Not many people know what a party line is anymore.
Yeah, we probably have to explain it to to all these
people that I've never heard outin the country for farms.
They would have one, one line and anyone could pick up the
line and listen, listen in at the party line.
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So so anyway, I said, well, no, let me think about it.
And so a couple of weeks later I'd come up with with questions
to ask and that's that's kind ofhow it started.
Turns out he's a member of my soul cluster.
After 800 lives on Earth, he with an interest in sole
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interest in exploration and designing villages and towns
from the very beginning. He is a member of a of First
Contact Group of Four team and and and they contact immersion
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emerging civilizations before they get to the point where
they're going into space. Interesting.
And you were. And one of your books is about
this first contact, was it not? And, and he told me, he said,
Tom, I'm on the, the same, the Ihave the the very same
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conditions that you have with Theo and anybody else you speak
to. You have to ask specific
questions. You can't just say, oh, tell me
what you look like, Anturra. And so, you know, I've had to
come up with every single littlequestion about his appearance.
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And the one thing I forgot to ask in the book was whether he
had a tail or not. He's an amphibian from the
Sirius B star system from Nomo, that water planet in the Series
B solar system, and they actually has a small triangular
tail. But I've it was years before I
realized I'd forgotten to ask him that.
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The information that the group has been coming through with
this now that I have kind of relaxed and gotten over my
whatever that was, my emotional blocks about it for some reason
have been really fascinating. And they, they basically say
that we've had so much help on this planet getting started,
especially in the beginning of humanity, that we put a lot of
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these beings on pedestals and called them gods, called them
angels, called them all sorts ofthings.
And there's a massive crossover between what we think of as
angels and what we think of as ETS.
And our whole belief systems have to kind of go out the
window to really bring this. So that's that's absolutely
incredible magical. So tell me about some of your
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other books you've you've done. You've really focused on a wide
range of a plethora of subjects there.
So tell tell me a little bit about them.
Sure. Well, in this comes back, I
decided because there was no wayI knew that I could ask enough
questions to that I wanted to know that could I couldn't think
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of. And so I'm told that I was the
only person in the world that opened it up for anyone in the
world to, to send me questions to ask in my meditative states,
meditative sessions. And so I've wound up asking over
30,000 questions and and it justkind of leaves me where it wants
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to lead me. I, I one of the, the books,
let's see if I can get it where there it goes.
Atlantis and Lemuria started when I was saying, well, reveal
some mysteries said I was to reintroduce the general way to
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to this time period. How far back did it go?
And I thought maybe 600 years orsomething like that.
And and Theo said, oh Tom, it dates all the way back to your
Atlantean days where and I foundout later I have 180 lives
during the Atlantean days. And he said you were inspired to
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create the general way. You have a million followers
now. This is during the time of
Posadia and 375 miles to the South, Aaron and the five little
islands and a Half Moon below it.
And, and you were told by ETS that they were headed to destroy
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themselves in a final war. And so you migrated with 25,000
of your followers through Europeto Egypt.
And in Egypt there was a Egyptian Princess that was told
in her meditations that we were good people because the
Egyptians were afraid the Atlanteans were going to conquer
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them again. They done that fast and, and,
and so I, I was able to convinceher we weren't, we just were
there to find new lives. And so she helped us settle.
And that Egyptian Princess is mywife in this life and in her
next life, she's going back about a 100 years after my life
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there, which was around 12,700 years ago.
And she's going to be one of theearly versions of a pharaoh.
And I'm going to be your assistant.
But I'm that's a past life for me.
I've already had that one. And so that's of course the
Egyptians don't admit to having that long a a history due to
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their religious beliefs. Right.
Well, that's fascinating. You say that because that 12,700
years ago is just before the floods, just about 100 years,
100 years before the floods and the Younger Dryas and all the
things that took place after that.
That's absolutely. Amazing.
And and when when the Atlanteansdestroyed themselves using laser
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weapons that caused the the oceans of the world to to rise
4500 feet. And that was actually the time
of Noah and his ark. It just didn't flood every
single inch of the earth, only mostly the Mediterranean.
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And his ark came to rest at Mount Ararat on the lower solves
instead of the top of it. Yeah, I know they keep, they
keep thinking they found it, butthey every time they come a
little closer to it, they they it turns out to be something
else or some shadows that are forming.
But it's absolutely, absolutely amazing.
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No, they, they, even though that's a biblical story, it's
actually covered in many religions, not about Noah
particularly, but the floods. The floods are covered in all
sorts of earth histories and religions and so forth.
And, you know, for lots of different reasons.
One religion says we, we, we screwed up, we got greedy, we
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got, you know, too much into something else and and so forth.
But nobody, nobody. I, I was born and raised in
Missouri, St. Louis, MO.
And when I went out in the backyard and did some digging, I
could find seashells that were. Yes.
There's no reason for them to ever be there.
So yeah, that it. It absolutely was.
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And there's not too far from me,there's a place called Rockwall,
TX. And there's actually a Rockwall
that I've asked about in in one of my sessions.
And it turned out there were a, a people that lived there a long
time ago as the oceans were receding and they built a
Rockwall to prevent the oceans from destroying their crops or
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whatever. And then the oceans continued to
recede and they follow the oceans and were eventually
destroyed in by a hurricane in the lower part of Texas.
So there's there's evidence, butyou know, it's so long ago that
that's. Yeah, if you can.
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Maybe how long ago the oceans were receding.
Well, even even well before that, there's a lot of evidence
that humans were even here during the Ice Age and even
slightly before the Ice Age. So there's there's a lot of
evidence that's showing up in different place, but we have no
recorded history. We have no recordings or
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writings from those other channels.
Yeah, pardon me. I was told that 30,000 years ago
the Atlantean continent had a string of volcanoes right down
the middle of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and they all exploded at
the same time and most of of thecontinents sank and the oceans
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rose 160 feet. So that was the first big and
and of course, every single settlement along the shores of
every continent in the world waswiped out.
And then and then came the 45 foot one.
And then after that the Lemurians.
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And you know, one day naturally,I had to ask, I said, oh, have I
ever had a life on Lemuria? And Theo said, oh, Tom, you
helped sink the continent. That's, that's what the group
told me about Atlantis. They said I've had some very
good lives in Lemoria, but in Atlantis I was one of the ones
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that were responsible for the problem, so I couldn't.
That's amazing. And look what we're doing now.
Yeah, exactly. So.
So it turned out that I was a religious leader and.
And so I encouraged the the leaders of my country, I think
there's a 5 or 7 you'd have to look at the book and the 2
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dropped hydrogen type bombs ontothe other countries thinking
they didn't have a way to respond, but they did.
And that wound up destroying thewhole continent.
So and that in the oceans rose 172 feet or so then.
So there's been three major oneswe've got.
We've got another small 1 comingup next year where the oceans
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are going to rise 3 feet. But that's part of that's part
of my conversations with Gaia. Sold the Earth back.
And and tell me about Gaia. You've written a lot about,
about how the spirit of Gaia hasin has brought come into the
earth and you've told some really interesting stories about
that. I think you wrote a book about
Gaia, did you not? Yeah, well, that's the one
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that's coming up. Oh, that's the one.
OK, All right, let me let me show them real quick.
There we go. This is the new book.
Yeah, absolutely. Tell us about this.
Coming out at the same time. Oh, OK, so you got two of them
coming out. Awesome.
Yeah, Volume 1 and volume to otherwise it would have been
over 650 pages. And yeah, with my, you know,
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mutually agreed that was too large and would that be too high
a price? So we split it into two.
Good, good. So that's amazing.
And this is all covered in this next book that's coming out.
Yes. Awesome.
Incredible. So, so tell me a little bit
about that. How did, how did Gaia decide?
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I mean, Gaia is an entity, obviously.
Well, the Earth is a living, breathing, sentient entity.
Is that what you mean by Gaia? Kind of like the Oversoul.
OK, so so I like to call him creator because I don't think
God. I think God is a limiting word.
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I agree. And so I call him creator
because there was this magnificent being that loves
variety and I kept being told that over and over again.
And finally I I have a little understanding about why creator
is likes variety. So Creator created our universe
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and it was 25 billion years ago,not 13.5, but soon I'm told.
You know that astronomers will will see that with the equipment
we have present day. They will say that our universe
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is 20 billion years old, but it's actually 25.
We just don't have the equipmentto see that far.
And so, so at about that time when, when creator had just, I
call it the small Bang Theory because the creator created
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several 100 galaxies all tightlypacked together and, and Gaia
showed up wanting to be a quantum master.
And so the theater, pardon me, Creator said, well, I, I suggest
that you insult this asteroid. And in this asteroid you visit
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all several hundred of the of the galaxies that creator has
created so far. They were tightly packed
together. So for the next several million
years, that's what Gaia did, going from Galaxy to Galaxy,
talking to the, the souls that in sold the sun, sun's, the
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moons, the planets and and the, and the people that were
attracted to have lives on thoseplanets.
So that's what that's what Gaia did because she basically said
she wanted to become a quantum master.
And eventually she was assigned to Earth.
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And somewhere before the Earth experiment, as it's called,
where the creator of our universe wanted to see if the
four negative energies that existed but had never been
worked with over trillions of ofother creations by other
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creators, they'd all been created in the 10 positive
energies, including our universe.
So the creator of our universe created a special space-time
continuum that just surrounded our solar system and all within
these four negative energies. And our souls, who had the
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highest vibrations of anyone on the planets, volunteered to take
part the Earth experience. And that's what we're doing.
Fascinating. And you're, you're absolutely
right. We, we discovered a lot with the
Hubble telescope and now with the James Webb telescope.
Astrophysicists are coming up with all sorts of things that
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the group was talking about years ago.
They were talking about time being an illusion.
Now astrophysicists are saying we think time's an illusion.
It's a it's a construct of humanity.
And it is all all these fascinating things that they're
starting to discover and. And two more things.
Amazing. Two more things these
astronomers are going to discover, I'm told with the
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James Webb is that they're goingto see, we think that all the
stars in our sky, night sky are all our universe.
But if you look sort of towards Sagittarius and I'm, you know,
don't hold me exactly to that, but up in that direction, that's
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that's the next universe over. There's three universes that are
next to ours. Two of them are on the other
side of the universe that we can't see, but there's one that
we can. And astronomers will figure out
that those galaxies over there are in completely different
looking than ours. And they're also going to see
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that there is a void several million miles wide.
And that void is the space in between our universe and the
next universe over. Fantastic.
Yeah. Growing when I was growing up,
we would look at the night sky and people with even astronomers
would point to them and say thatthose were Suns, like our sun.
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Turns out those are galaxies. They're not Suns or those are
galaxies. They're entire galaxies with the
millions and sometimes billions of Suns in them.
Absolutely, absolutely amazing To some of this some of this
information about here. When they get so far away, they
just look like a little little splash.
Yep, Exactly. Exactly.
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Well, Tom, this has been great. We are kind of running out of
time and I want to want to keep it to a somewhat of a limit
today. We could we, you and I could
talk for ages. So it's been, it's been a real
honor to connect with you like this.
Yeah, exactly. But I do want to, I do want you
to tell people where they can find your material.
Tell us about your book, when it's coming out and so forth.
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And then, then I'll ask you the final question.
OK, fantastic. OK everyone, first of all, you
can go to my website, which I mentioned before, which is
www.thegentlewaybook.com. Now on the website, on the very
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first page, you can sign up to get my free weekly newsletter.
It's my gift to the world. I've done over 900 of these so
far. They're all archived on the
website under articles and news,so you can go there.
There's even a search box where you can search words and phrases
and see if I've asked a questionabout that.
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And if I haven't, you know, sendme the question, ask the
question. Yeah.
So that's, that's what you can do there.
Then I, as we talked about, I have written 8 books.
The the next two are coming out in the next couple of weeks
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called conversations with Gaia soul of the Earth.
And but I've also, of course, would love for you to try the
gentle way because that works and it works perfectly the best
you've ever seen. And that, you know, try pick up,
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pick up one of my bucks and and see if you like it.
Awesome. Tom, thank you so much for being
here. One final question.
We always like to kind of leave with something you'd like to
offer people. Just some hope or some dreams or
some information that you'd liketo share with people here today.
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Oh well, I hate getting into this too much in this.
I'll go for it. You know, in this program, but
but for everyone on the West Coast, there's going to be some
major earth changes next year all the way from Tijuana through
the Aleutian Islands. And that's why there's going to
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be a three foot rise in the oceans of the world.
And I, I in my book, I gave fiveoptions of what you can do.
One would be to do nothing untilthe first two or three months of
2026 when there are going to be what are called precursor
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earthquakes. And these are going to be
hundreds of earthquakes with a amaximum of 6 to 6.5 in
magnitude. But then that summer, that's
when the biggies come with the 7/8 and nines and they will
continue for months. So if you live in a place as an
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example, Las Vegas is going to be a refugee center because
there's thousands of hotel roomsand hundreds of flights per day.
And so if you have a chance to help someone that lives on the
West Coast escape, then I hope you can.
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I hope I'm wrong on on that reception, but I've asked tons
of questions and I keep the guy who keeps narrowing down on me
well. Thank you so much for sharing
all of your information with us here today.
It's been, it's like I said, it's been a joy to connect with
you. And we will, we will have
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opportunities, you know, and if we all hold hands, we can make
these transitions much easier ifwe all work together rather than
try to be separated all the time.
So. That's exactly right, and that's
going to be in my next newsletter.
If it wasn't in this one I can'tremember but but that's exactly
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the answer I got. Tom Moore, thank you so much, my
friend. I'm going to leave you for now
and finish up the the virtual the not the virtual life, the
the Back Story podcast. Thank you everybody for being
here today. We hope that you got something
out of this. We love to hear from you.
Keep the hope up and know that you're never alone.
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Music. Hi, everybody.
Welcome. Welcome to the Back Story
Podcast. I'm very excited today to bring
you up a very dear old friend ofours, Barb and I have met with
him and his wife Dana's for quite some time, quite a few
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years. It's been really interesting to
watch his growth in this area ofspirituality and some of the
incredible things that he's beendoing.
So I'm very honored to share with you today, Tom Timor.
Tom is been a regular contributor like I have been in
the Sedona Journal. I'm not quite sure how long, but
we'll find out in just a minute.But he's been he's been doing
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some incredible work here for quite some time.
And I'm just very honored to bring Tom in to Tom, how you
doing? Doing great, Steve, so great to
to be back with you again. And it's, it's been a while and,
and happy, happy to see you're doing well.
And and you know, let's let's give the folks some interesting
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things today. Exactly, exactly.
Well, I am going to ask you somequestions.
Obviously you've we we met a long time ago.
I don't even how many years ago it was, but we met a long time
ago. We had dinner one time with Barb
and I had dinner with you and Dina and just it was it was it
was wonderful. I remember that and I remember
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that everything kind of shifted for both of us after that.
We both kind of went on a littlebit of a skyrocket, if you will,
and life change could have been.And as as I mentioned to you
before, most of the people that watch this are teachers and
healers in their own right. So they're very interested in
most of the time how you got there, what happened to you,
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what took place and how you got started in this whole process.
So let me start with that question, how, how'd you get
started? How'd this work for you?
OK, I'll sort of give you 3 three points in my life that
that were really significant. First, I was, I was reading the
Sedona Journal one day and therewas a channeled article by
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Robert Shapiro and in it ZOS, who is he was channeling said
there said you can request benevolent outcomes in your
life. Well, at that time, I'd tried
the law of attraction. That wasn't working very well.
And so I said, hmm, that sounds interesting.
It just rang a bell with me. And so I started trying it out,
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saying these benevolent outcomesout loud, testing it out, and it
worked perfectly. And I've never been able to say
that by any modality that I'd ever used.
So I, I continued on from there and eventually wound up even
writing some articles for the Sedona Journal.
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And then, but the second thing that happened was that we went
to see an event that you and Barbara held many years ago.
This is before or even my first,maybe the first article, I can't
remember. And, and you were doing these
two-minute readings at breaks. And so I I when it was my turn,
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I said, you know, we stepped up there and you said, Tom, you
almost died recently. And I said, no, I don't think
so. And Dina, my wife stepped in and
said, yes, do you remember can where you lost, you had
diverticulitis and lost 40% of your blood?
Oh yeah, I forgot. And so you said, well, you know,
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what's your Plan B? And so I thought for a minute
and I said, you know, I want to share and and help everybody
with the general. Pardon me, this is before to
help everybody with benevolent outcomes.
And I said that out loud. So then Fast forward on a ways
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and Dina and I went to a seminarheld in Sedona, AZ with the Dick
Suplin and he was putting it wascalled a seminar to Increase
Your Psychic Abilities. And so he would put us under and
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into these light altered States and we would do certain things.
On the second day he he wanted to put us under and have us try
automatic writing. Well, at that time I had had a
shaman by the name of real reveals the mysteries that that
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Robert Shapiro had channeled forme.
And so I decided I wanted to seeif I could contact him.
And so when he put us under, I said, reveal some mysteries.
Are you there? And he said, yes, I am Tom.
And I said, wow, this is great. And he went on to tell me.
He said, Tom, you reincarnated into this time period to
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reintroduce people to the gentleway.
So he gave me the name of my first book, the very first time
I ever spoke with him. And then he said, you're going
to write books. And I said, no, no, no, I'm a
business guy. I I thought I was going to be
doing International Film and TV program distribution till I
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retired. And he said no books.
So I said OK. And so I wrote my first book,
The Gentle Way and then he and and but on on my website that I
created. It was
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www.thegentlewaybooksingular.combecause I never thought I'd ever
be able to write another book. And write.
With my 7th and 8th books comingout in the couple of weeks.
So that's how I started. Incredible.
That's amazing. Yeah.
I remember, I remember seeing some of your earlier writings in
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the Sedona Journal. We're all about benevolent
outcomes. And I I have to say, I didn't
understand it completely until you started writing about it.
I had heard, I had read some of the things from Robert Shapiro
about benevolent outcomes and how people.
But when you put your your focuson it and started writing some
of those things that made it just gained a whole new meaning
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to me about how that was coming.And yeah.
Because you're doing you're doing these out loud.
And the way I, I understand it now is that when you request
these benevolent outcomes out loud, it eventually scientists
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will be able to understand the power of the verbal spoken word.
And that's, that's what's happened when you request these
benevolent night comes. It goes directly to whatever you
want to call it, Source, universe, God, creator, I'd like
to call it creator. It's handled by your guardian
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angels, I'm told. And and if it's within your soul
contract then you will have thatrequest granted.
That's amazing, absolutely amazing.
Yeah. The group has mentioned
something very similar. They they've said for many
years, they said, you know you can your creator beings, you're
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all going to create things no matter what you do.
But something is really magical when you speak your voice and
those vibrations come around andgo in your own ears.
That's when many of the many of the magics really start as you,
you actually grounded in a wholedifferent way that way.
So that's that's very. Magical.
It's called magical today, but Ithink someday in the future,
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scientists will be able to provethe, the, the power of this
verbal voice. Because I'm even telling you
know that the pyramids were built by having groups of of 300
men, women and children chantinga, a, a certain sound, a certain
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chant that lifted these huge bags of cement that were, that
were then transported to the pyramids and poured in place.
And that's, that's how they built the pyramids.
That's. Amazing.
One story I'm telling. Amazing stuff.
Yeah, I, I think we're finding out a lot of stuff about that.
They've they've discovered the tunnel under the under the Giza
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pyramids and, and how, how deep that starts to go.
It's just absolutely amazing things.
Well beyond it, you know, one other thing I want to ask you
about because I've seen the progression of the books that
you've written, the progression of your work in the Sedona
Journal, because those are really the only two things I I
get to see. I don't get to follow people's
websites. But and by the way.
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In March, I submitted my 200th column to the Sedona.
Did you really? Incredible, incredible.
I think we just celebrated 20 years.
I have no idea how many that is,but it's been.
That's the only way I know it. Yeah, it's, it's been
incredible. So it's, it's just been and
they're wonderful people. Sedona, Melody and and everybody
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involved and Monica and they've just incredible people that
really have have the Earth's interest in in humanity at heart
here. It's just very magical people.
So one of the things that I, I have experienced recently, I
have always had a resistance of talking about E TS.
I have no idea what it was. I mean, all you have to do is
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look in the sky. If you realize how many galaxies
are really out there, there's ofcourse there's other beings
around and so forth, that I've always had this innate
resistance about talking about it until recently.
And I know that was one of the gifts that you did.
In fact, you wrote a whole book about it, did you not?
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Yes, that came out in 2013, and then I've continued to ask even
probably thousands of questions since then.
I was in in 2008. I was talking to my guardian
Angel, Theo, who I named after. He told me that that humans
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don't have the vocal cords to pronounce and tell him names and
that I could call him Tom, Dick or Harry, but Tom says that's my
name would be a little hard in my meditation.
So I thought for a while and came up with the name Theo.
And so we were talking one day about some runs on the other
side of the world and he said, you know, you're going to get to
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see those one day. And I said, oh, yeah.
He said, yeah, there's a there'san ET that's monitoring our
conversation. And if you'd like, you can talk
to him. And I was floored because I
thought I was having this private conversation with my own
guardian Angel. And it was like what you would
call in the old days, a party line.
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And. So you're dating yourself now?
Not many people know what a party line is anymore.
Yeah, we probably have to explain it to to all these
people that I've never heard outin the country for farms.
They would have one, one line and anyone could pick up the
line and listen, listen in at the party line.
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So so anyway, I said, well, no, let me think about it.
And so a couple of weeks later I'd come up with with questions
to ask and that's that's kind ofhow it started.
Turns out he's a member of my soul cluster.
After 800 lives on Earth, he with an interest in sole
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interest in exploration and designing villages and towns
from the very beginning. He is a member of a of First
Contact Group of Four team and and and they contact immersion
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emerging civilizations before they get to the point where
they're going into space. Interesting.
And you were. And one of your books is about
this first contact, was it not? And, and he told me, he said,
Tom, I'm on the, the same, the Ihave the the very same
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conditions that you have with Theo and anybody else you speak
to. You have to ask specific
questions. You can't just say, oh, tell me
what you look like, Anturra. And so, you know, I've had to
come up with every single littlequestion about his appearance.
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And the one thing I forgot to ask in the book was whether he
had a tail or not. He's an amphibian from the
Sirius B star system from Nomo, that water planet in the Series
B solar system, and they actually has a small triangular
tail. But I've it was years before I
realized I'd forgotten to ask him that.
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The information that the group has been coming through with
this now that I have kind of relaxed and gotten over my
whatever that was, my emotional blocks about it for some reason
have been really fascinating. And they, they basically say
that we've had so much help on this planet getting started,
especially in the beginning of humanity, that we put a lot of
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these beings on pedestals and called them gods, called them
angels, called them all sorts ofthings.
And there's a massive crossover between what we think of as
angels and what we think of as ETS.
And our whole belief systems have to kind of go out the
window to really bring this. So that's that's absolutely
incredible magical. So tell me about some of your
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other books you've you've done. You've really focused on a wide
range of a plethora of subjects there.
So tell tell me a little bit about them.
Sure. Well, in this comes back, I
decided because there was no wayI knew that I could ask enough
questions to that I wanted to know that could I couldn't think
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of. And so I'm told that I was the
only person in the world that opened it up for anyone in the
world to, to send me questions to ask in my meditative states,
meditative sessions. And so I've wound up asking over
30,000 questions and and it justkind of leaves me where it wants
(15:57):
to lead me. I, I one of the, the books,
let's see if I can get it where there it goes.
Atlantis and Lemuria started when I was saying, well, reveal
some mysteries said I was to reintroduce the general way to
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to this time period. How far back did it go?
And I thought maybe 600 years orsomething like that.
And and Theo said, oh Tom, it dates all the way back to your
Atlantean days where and I foundout later I have 180 lives
during the Atlantean days. And he said you were inspired to
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create the general way. You have a million followers
now. This is during the time of
Posadia and 375 miles to the South, Aaron and the five little
islands and a Half Moon below it.
And, and you were told by ETS that they were headed to destroy
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themselves in a final war. And so you migrated with 25,000
of your followers through Europeto Egypt.
And in Egypt there was a Egyptian Princess that was told
in her meditations that we were good people because the
Egyptians were afraid the Atlanteans were going to conquer
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them again. They done that fast and, and,
and so I, I was able to convinceher we weren't, we just were
there to find new lives. And so she helped us settle.
And that Egyptian Princess is mywife in this life and in her
next life, she's going back about a 100 years after my life
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there, which was around 12,700 years ago.
And she's going to be one of theearly versions of a pharaoh.
And I'm going to be your assistant.
But I'm that's a past life for me.
I've already had that one. And so that's of course the
Egyptians don't admit to having that long a a history due to
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their religious beliefs. Right.
Well, that's fascinating. You say that because that 12,700
years ago is just before the floods, just about 100 years,
100 years before the floods and the Younger Dryas and all the
things that took place after that.
That's absolutely. Amazing.
And and when when the Atlanteansdestroyed themselves using laser
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weapons that caused the the oceans of the world to to rise
4500 feet. And that was actually the time
of Noah and his ark. It just didn't flood every
single inch of the earth, only mostly the Mediterranean.
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And his ark came to rest at Mount Ararat on the lower solves
instead of the top of it. Yeah, I know they keep, they
keep thinking they found it, butthey every time they come a
little closer to it, they they it turns out to be something
else or some shadows that are forming.
But it's absolutely, absolutely amazing.
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No, they, they, even though that's a biblical story, it's
actually covered in many religions, not about Noah
particularly, but the floods. The floods are covered in all
sorts of earth histories and religions and so forth.
And, you know, for lots of different reasons.
One religion says we, we, we screwed up, we got greedy, we
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got, you know, too much into something else and and so forth.
But nobody, nobody. I, I was born and raised in
Missouri, St. Louis, MO.
And when I went out in the backyard and did some digging, I
could find seashells that were. Yes.
There's no reason for them to ever be there.
So yeah, that it. It absolutely was.
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And there's not too far from me,there's a place called Rockwall,
TX. And there's actually a Rockwall
that I've asked about in in one of my sessions.
And it turned out there were a, a people that lived there a long
time ago as the oceans were receding and they built a
Rockwall to prevent the oceans from destroying their crops or
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whatever. And then the oceans continued to
recede and they follow the oceans and were eventually
destroyed in by a hurricane in the lower part of Texas.
So there's there's evidence, butyou know, it's so long ago that
that's. Yeah, if you can.
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Maybe how long ago the oceans were receding.
Well, even even well before that, there's a lot of evidence
that humans were even here during the Ice Age and even
slightly before the Ice Age. So there's there's a lot of
evidence that's showing up in different place, but we have no
recorded history. We have no recordings or
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writings from those other channels.
Yeah, pardon me. I was told that 30,000 years ago
the Atlantean continent had a string of volcanoes right down
the middle of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and they all exploded at
the same time and most of of thecontinents sank and the oceans
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rose 160 feet. So that was the first big and
and of course, every single settlement along the shores of
every continent in the world waswiped out.
And then and then came the 45 foot one.
And then after that the Lemurians.
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And you know, one day naturally,I had to ask, I said, oh, have I
ever had a life on Lemuria? And Theo said, oh, Tom, you
helped sink the continent. That's, that's what the group
told me about Atlantis. They said I've had some very
good lives in Lemoria, but in Atlantis I was one of the ones
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that were responsible for the problem, so I couldn't.
That's amazing. And look what we're doing now.
Yeah, exactly. So.
So it turned out that I was a religious leader and.
And so I encouraged the the leaders of my country, I think
there's a 5 or 7 you'd have to look at the book and the 2
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dropped hydrogen type bombs ontothe other countries thinking
they didn't have a way to respond, but they did.
And that wound up destroying thewhole continent.
So and that in the oceans rose 172 feet or so then.
So there's been three major oneswe've got.
We've got another small 1 comingup next year where the oceans
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are going to rise 3 feet. But that's part of that's part
of my conversations with Gaia. Sold the Earth back.
And and tell me about Gaia. You've written a lot about,
about how the spirit of Gaia hasin has brought come into the
earth and you've told some really interesting stories about
that. I think you wrote a book about
Gaia, did you not? Yeah, well, that's the one
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that's coming up. Oh, that's the one.
OK, All right, let me let me show them real quick.
There we go. This is the new book.
Yeah, absolutely. Tell us about this.
Coming out at the same time. Oh, OK, so you got two of them
coming out. Awesome.
Yeah, Volume 1 and volume to otherwise it would have been
over 650 pages. And yeah, with my, you know,
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mutually agreed that was too large and would that be too high
a price? So we split it into two.
Good, good. So that's amazing.
And this is all covered in this next book that's coming out.
Yes. Awesome.
Incredible. So, so tell me a little bit
about that. How did, how did Gaia decide?
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I mean, Gaia is an entity, obviously.
Well, the Earth is a living, breathing, sentient entity.
Is that what you mean by Gaia? Kind of like the Oversoul.
OK, so so I like to call him creator because I don't think
God. I think God is a limiting word.
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I agree. And so I call him creator
because there was this magnificent being that loves
variety and I kept being told that over and over again.
And finally I I have a little understanding about why creator
is likes variety. So Creator created our universe
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and it was 25 billion years ago,not 13.5, but soon I'm told.
You know that astronomers will will see that with the equipment
we have present day. They will say that our universe
(25:29):
is 20 billion years old, but it's actually 25.
We just don't have the equipmentto see that far.
And so, so at about that time when, when creator had just, I
call it the small Bang Theory because the creator created
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several 100 galaxies all tightlypacked together and, and Gaia
showed up wanting to be a quantum master.
And so the theater, pardon me, Creator said, well, I, I suggest
that you insult this asteroid. And in this asteroid you visit
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all several hundred of the of the galaxies that creator has
created so far. They were tightly packed
together. So for the next several million
years, that's what Gaia did, going from Galaxy to Galaxy,
talking to the, the souls that in sold the sun, sun's, the
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moons, the planets and and the, and the people that were
attracted to have lives on thoseplanets.
So that's what that's what Gaia did because she basically said
she wanted to become a quantum master.
And eventually she was assigned to Earth.
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And somewhere before the Earth experiment, as it's called,
where the creator of our universe wanted to see if the
four negative energies that existed but had never been
worked with over trillions of ofother creations by other
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creators, they'd all been created in the 10 positive
energies, including our universe.
So the creator of our universe created a special space-time
continuum that just surrounded our solar system and all within
these four negative energies. And our souls, who had the
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highest vibrations of anyone on the planets, volunteered to take
part the Earth experience. And that's what we're doing.
Fascinating. And you're, you're absolutely
right. We, we discovered a lot with the
Hubble telescope and now with the James Webb telescope.
Astrophysicists are coming up with all sorts of things that
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the group was talking about years ago.
They were talking about time being an illusion.
Now astrophysicists are saying we think time's an illusion.
It's a it's a construct of humanity.
And it is all all these fascinating things that they're
starting to discover and. And two more things.
Amazing. Two more things these
astronomers are going to discover, I'm told with the
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James Webb is that they're goingto see, we think that all the
stars in our sky, night sky are all our universe.
But if you look sort of towards Sagittarius and I'm, you know,
don't hold me exactly to that, but up in that direction, that's
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that's the next universe over. There's three universes that are
next to ours. Two of them are on the other
side of the universe that we can't see, but there's one that
we can. And astronomers will figure out
that those galaxies over there are in completely different
looking than ours. And they're also going to see
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that there is a void several million miles wide.
And that void is the space in between our universe and the
next universe over. Fantastic.
Yeah. Growing when I was growing up,
we would look at the night sky and people with even astronomers
would point to them and say thatthose were Suns, like our sun.
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Turns out those are galaxies. They're not Suns or those are
galaxies. They're entire galaxies with the
millions and sometimes billions of Suns in them.
Absolutely, absolutely amazing To some of this some of this
information about here. When they get so far away, they
just look like a little little splash.
Yep, Exactly. Exactly.
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Well, Tom, this has been great. We are kind of running out of
time and I want to want to keep it to a somewhat of a limit
today. We could we, you and I could
talk for ages. So it's been, it's been a real
honor to connect with you like this.
Yeah, exactly. But I do want to, I do want you
to tell people where they can find your material.
Tell us about your book, when it's coming out and so forth.
(30:23):
And then, then I'll ask you the final question.
OK, fantastic. OK everyone, first of all, you
can go to my website, which I mentioned before, which is
www.thegentlewaybook.com. Now on the website, on the very
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first page, you can sign up to get my free weekly newsletter.
It's my gift to the world. I've done over 900 of these so
far. They're all archived on the
website under articles and news,so you can go there.
There's even a search box where you can search words and phrases
and see if I've asked a questionabout that.
(31:06):
And if I haven't, you know, sendme the question, ask the
question. Yeah.
So that's, that's what you can do there.
Then I, as we talked about, I have written 8 books.
The the next two are coming out in the next couple of weeks
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called conversations with Gaia soul of the Earth.
And but I've also, of course, would love for you to try the
gentle way because that works and it works perfectly the best
you've ever seen. And that, you know, try pick up,
(31:55):
pick up one of my bucks and and see if you like it.
Awesome. Tom, thank you so much for being
here. One final question.
We always like to kind of leave with something you'd like to
offer people. Just some hope or some dreams or
some information that you'd liketo share with people here today.
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Oh well, I hate getting into this too much in this.
I'll go for it. You know, in this program, but
but for everyone on the West Coast, there's going to be some
major earth changes next year all the way from Tijuana through
the Aleutian Islands. And that's why there's going to
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be a three foot rise in the oceans of the world.
And I, I in my book, I gave fiveoptions of what you can do.
One would be to do nothing untilthe first two or three months of
2026 when there are going to be what are called precursor
(32:58):
earthquakes. And these are going to be
hundreds of earthquakes with a amaximum of 6 to 6.5 in
magnitude. But then that summer, that's
when the biggies come with the 7/8 and nines and they will
continue for months. So if you live in a place as an
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example, Las Vegas is going to be a refugee center because
there's thousands of hotel roomsand hundreds of flights per day.
And so if you have a chance to help someone that lives on the
West Coast escape, then I hope you can.
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I hope I'm wrong on on that reception, but I've asked tons
of questions and I keep the guy who keeps narrowing down on me
well. Thank you so much for sharing
all of your information with us here today.
It's been, it's like I said, it's been a joy to connect with
you. And we will, we will have
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opportunities, you know, and if we all hold hands, we can make
these transitions much easier ifwe all work together rather than
try to be separated all the time.
So. That's exactly right, and that's
going to be in my next newsletter.
If it wasn't in this one I can'tremember but but that's exactly
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the answer I got. Tom Moore, thank you so much, my
friend. I'm going to leave you for now
and finish up the the virtual the not the virtual life, the
the Back Story podcast. Thank you everybody for being
here today. We hope that you got something
out of this. We love to hear from you.
Keep the hope up and know that you're never alone.
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