August 2, 2025 • 42 mins
From the Globe Theatre to the Angels of Atlantis, Stewart Pearce shares his powerful life story, exploring voice as a sacred bridge between body and soul—and how ancient sound wisdom may shape the future of human consciousness.
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Music. Hi everybody, welcome.
Welcome to the Back Story podcast.
Today I'm very honored to bring you a dear old friend, somebody
who we've known for many, many years.
He's been on the virtual live broadcast as a guest having to
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do with his books that have beenout.
He's just a fascinating got a fascinating story of where he
comes from, where the how this whole process is truly a multi
dimensional being. I'm talking about Stuart Pierce.
Stuart's a very dear friend. And welcome, Stuart.
Glad you're here today. It's wonderful to see you,
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Steve, having not been with you for many, many years.
So thanks for inviting me. Yeah.
I mean, it was, you know, way back around 2011, 2012, I think.
Must have. It was actually, it was before
the session of the equinoxes. So it's during the end of the
first decade. Right.
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Of century I. Mean not of I, I know where
you're at at times the illusion anyway, so that's OK.
So welcome today. So I wanted to bring you on.
Our people of course, are very interested in what you do, the
differences that we like to showpeople about how different
people work with other people, how they got there, what the
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whole process is. And you have some really
fascinating stories to tell about how you got there.
Would you mind sharing a little bit of of, and I know you've got
all these different realms that you can jump into.
Just choose one that's favorite for you and see what we got.
So you mean starting at of of mychildhood?
You mean that that's starting there?
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Yeah, that'd be a great place. You bet.
So I I suppose I had a slightly unusual childhood in the sense
of the fact that I was introduced to the central
dichotomies of life because my parents, my father worked for
the British royal family and so we were reared in that rarified
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situation. But my mother was a very
grounded individual who wanted us to have a real experience of
not rarify, but of being with so-called ordinary people.
So we were educated in what we call here state schools, not
private schools, but in what we call public schools.
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It's complicated. Public schools upwards.
We were, you know, we were, we were in schools not of
privileged classes. We were in schools of everybody,
you know. So that was quite fascinating
coming from a palace then going into this.
And I soon discovered that I hada quality of experience that
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many people didn't, that many ofmy peers didn't, in the sense
that I saw angels and I saw elementals and I saw dead
people. You know, I saw people that were
walking around often without heads.
And we, in contexts that for thefirst seven years of my life, we
were living in a place called St.
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James's Palace, which has been there since the 14th century.
So it's quite old and therefore it has history.
Many major things have happened for the British monarchy.
So there were lots of lots of dead people.
And what I said found fascinating about these beings
that walked around was that theywere very associated with their
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portraits because there were the, you know, the Queen of
England or the King of England. Now has this extraordinary
collection that's been made overthe years of over 1000 years of
portraiture of royal personages.And one day a being who was
known as Charles the First, who was executed in 1649 when there
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was a civil war going on in thisUnited Kingdom in, in the
Kingdom that it was before it became united.
And this being stepped out of the portrait.
And I had this conversation. So I had all of this going on,
but found it very different to, to, to learn at school.
I now know that I'm profoundly dyslexic.
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Then we didn't because this was the late 50s, early 60s, we
didn't know about dyslexia, synesthesia.
And I have this thing which we were talking about just now of a
crossover of the senses, which is what synesthesia is, which I
believe many of us have. But I was seeing sound, not just
hearing sound. I was seeing moving on
extraordinary waves of energy that sound was, and the power of
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sound, particularly when it became this sort of mitigating
circumstance of impinging on us through words.
But I couldn't read. And of course I was, you know, I
was beaten by not being able to read, not by, by my mother, my
father's mostly, but my, by my teachers who, who didn't know
what on earth they could do withthis child talking about angels
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and other dead and, and the factthat I couldn't do what they
wanted me to do. So essentially, they were really
frightened. So by the time I was around 8
1/2 nine, I sort of had had enough because I never gained
any approbation. I have a brother who's a year
old who was a brilliant scholar and he was always being approved
of and I was always being denounced.
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So I decided to shut up, which is sort of unusual for an 8 1/2
child. I was, by the way, very
garrulous. So I talked a lot, surprise,
surprise. And so I shut up and I said to
my brother David, you're now going to be my code breaker or
whatever. I said, I don't know.
And he said, oh, because we havethis intuitive connection.
So I just went for a year and a half and it made me real.
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Still, I got still. It was really for the first time
that I came in, that my spirit came in to flesh.
And I realized, ah, this is whatI'm here for, on a very, very
sensual sensory level. In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was made flesh. On the beginning was sound, and
the sound was made flesh and dwelt among us full of grace and
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truth. So I came deeply in and got
heavy, got grounded, and then I saw, I saw so much more clearly.
I saw the aura or auras of the people that were caregivers,
caretakers, those people over there who were brutalizing me.
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They had these dark purple, darkgrey, flashing red.
And I knew and over here were the women mostly who were loving
and caring and kind and they were surrounded by these pastel
colours. So I knew when someone tells you
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their truth, believe them. I knew who to go to and not go
over there, even though I was being demanded of as any student
hears, as any school child is toachieve something.
And that was huge, to be frank, as you can probably hear, my
voice broke very, very early when my both my brother and I
were very early pubescent. So 1011 was, you know, body
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hair, hormones, voice is breaking.
But you know, the way that that all took place really was that
after about a year and a half ofsilence, I was in the back of
the car and I thought now's the time to make sound, but I
couldn't because my vocal cords were slightly ossified, having
not sounded all that time. So I, I went and my mother
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nearly lapped into a tree or something.
I said, darling, you're, you're singing.
You're singing. And I so I thought this is the
easiest way of broaching the creating the bridge between
silence and voice fullness. So you have been totally, you
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have been totally silent up to that point.
You have actually not spoken. Wow.
Amazing. Perfect, wonderful way to look.
Wonderful way to learn to listen.
Yeah. I got really still, which means
I got press and you say. Right.
So it was a very early, early stage of facilitation for a very
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young child to get really, really, really present, to see
the multidimensional nature. I saw all of it through the
perceptuality of a small child. I couldn't make sense of it.
I didn't have the words for it. It was later in secondary
education or high school, but I started, you know, as soon as I,
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oh, by the way, in the in the choir, I learned to read.
Interesting, because I were singing.
Interesting. It was in flow.
It was in flow and the words literally dropped in.
Obviously I had the hymn or the prayer book called the Psalm in
front of me. I copied the other books and
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then the words dropped into my body and I loved words.
I got carried away with the sounds of words.
I remember I when I heard insignificant or jubilation, I
put it into every single sentence because it sounded so.
It was so beautiful to say it until my mother said, darling, I
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think we need to work out what these words mean.
You can't put. If you're using the office,
that's. Fine.
It was just so because I could. I could taste them, you see.
I could see them and taste and feel them.
So that in high school led me tosomebody saying there's
something about your voice, there's something about your
voice, why don't you join the drama group?
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And I thought, well, why not? And then drama group, suddenly
the teacher who I loved said, you're an actor, but I'd never
received approbation, you see? And suddenly there was a light
on the individual and this love Jet Ray came towards me.
So guess what? Eventually, when I graduated
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from high school, I joined. I went into a Conservatoire and
trained as an actor and became an actor.
And through the 70s, I worked asan actor.
Fascinating. You ended up teaching acting
too, did you not? Didn't you teach voice and
acting? Well, I was with a very famous
theatre company and we went on aworld tour, a company called the
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Royal Shakespeare Company, right?
And the voice director of the company mentored me.
She said there's something aboutyour voice, but you're running
scared. Come and work with me and I'll
mentor you. I was terrified.
I looked OK, but I was terrifiedin and we ended up with the tour
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on the world tour. We ended up on Broadway for
about 3 months and I fell in love.
I fell in love with the USI fellin love with New York.
I fell in love with somebody. And so when the company finished
the contract and came back to the UKI stayed on.
And I stayed on for two years and got an agent, got a manager
and worked. And then I was in the casting
for a movie with 20th Century Fox and I got it.
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And as I was packing up the apartment in Manhattan, the
telephone rang and everything went into slow motion.
And it was my brother saying, what are you doing?
It was very strange. The space-time continuum
distorted. And I knew exactly what he was
going to say. And he said, Mom's got terminal
cancer, she's got three months to live.
What are you going to do about it, This sacred song?
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So I let the let the contract go, let the job go and came back
to the UK was in breach of contract, but I thought it was
the most important thing to do. Our father had died three years
prior from a heart attack. She was only 58.
So I nursed her for a year and then ends.
And then it was the question of shit, what do I do, what do I
do, What do I do? I lost my manager, lost my
agent, was in breach of contract.
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And out of the blue the telephone rang.
This is way before cell phones. The old, you know the old.
Landline landlines, yes. And it was, it was my mentor
from the Royal Shakespeare Company saying what are you
doing? I said, I'm not doing anything,
I'm being this. And she said, shit, what are you
going to do? I said, I don't know, you should
come and teach for me. So a huge door opened and then
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the next breath she said to me, and I want you to go and work
with this woman. I don't want to work with her
because I'm a die hard Conservative.
You know, in terms of we have Labour and Conservative, sorry,
I beg your pardon. She was a die hard socialist and
she said there's this woman who's just taken over the
Conservative Party, go and work with her.
So within a week I was walking into Downing St. to work with
Margaret Thatcher. So it was a baptism by that's
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where it started. That was my in 1980, that was my
voice teaching career and huge opportunities came for me.
It was obvious the wheel of destiny.
Destiny had turned and I was, you know, my destiny was to move
in relation to sacred sound. You have a you have a sacred
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sound deep within you. I'd be willing to bet it was
there as a child and all this work and everything else that
came through. It's here.
But just to even hear you talk is a vibrational healing.
You have a magical way of being able to put those vibrations
together. And of course, you're very
eloquent with your words and your poetry is amazing.
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So it's, it's fun to, to watch all the pieces of it come
together. But my guess is that you had
something deep inside right fromthe very beginning.
And it took all this stuff to get out it to, you know, to get
you to trust it, to get you to work with it and so forth.
That's, that's absolutely amazing.
And we've heard of synesthesia before.
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That's basically how how the theIndigo children began.
Lady by the name of Nancy Tappy,a spiritual teacher, had severe
synesthesia and saw colors around people.
She saw people as colors, not just the aura, but the actual
people. And that's where that that whole
phrase came from originally. So it is absolutely fascinating,
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absolutely fascinating to hear this story.
You've got quite a, quite a history here, Sir.
Absolutely amazing. So what do you what?
Do you use commenting? Because it would be conceited of
me to comment. That's just what happened.
But of course, my connection with the divine is so refined,
always has been from the word go.
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During high school, I discoveredAnglo Catholicism and you know,
and being wrapped within the ministry of the sacraments and
the beauty of the bell, what we call the bells and the smells,
you know, the incense and the extraordinary choreography of
Mass. For me, it was a reminder of my
Atlantean, Egyptian self becauseat the age of 15, I discovered
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Egypt. And that's where I met Thoth.
That's where I met my master, who was.
The mastermind, you go there. Did you go there?
A. Bonding exercise with my
Pennsylvania because we had a difficult relationship.
I have sat and diametrically opposed to my son in Taurus.
So daddy or patriarchy or bossesalways find me very difficult
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and, and saying to my mum, you know, mummy, should I go?
And she said, darling, you know,when he when you're away, he's
different. So we went on a bonding exercise
and on the last night of being in Cairo, dad was not interested
in the mysteries at all. He was just meeting friends.
He was a bond viver and he lovedpeople and bless him, you know,
he was he was a great storyteller.
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And on the last night we were having dinner in a restaurant
and this man walked in. I saw coming in to the foyer of
the rest are very elegant with ahat, gloves and a cane.
This would have been 63, I guess.
Cairo was very French then. And this was the vicor Jacques
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Latoise, and he was a friend of my father's.
So he came over and put his hands on my dad's shoulders.
And my father says Jacques, and jumped up.
And then they, you know, they, they embraced and he came and
joined us and I developed a connection with him.
So over breakfast the following day, Jacques said, well, Joe, my
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father Stuart is really fascinated in the mysteries.
It seems such a shame that you're leaving without going
into the pyramid. If you leave him with me, I'll
take him down the Nile. And so my father looked at him
and said, well, do you need to go back to school?
And I said, well, not for another 10 days.
I thought it was the most amazing adventure there was in
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front of it. Of course, I was terrified.
But the same time I was so excited.
And Jacques took me into the pyramid.
I met Thoth. And then we got onto one of
those extraordinary they're called Habibiya there.
There's sailing boats that also have a motor that go down that
hold cabins for about 18 people.And, you know, all the servants
then were in livery. And it was very death on the
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Nile. And we sailed down to Luxor and
then all the way down to Oswan. And Jacques was a very great
esotericist. He knew his stuff.
So he showed me huge amount and I was just in wonder.
So it's not surprising that I'vebeen going back virtually every
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year. I'm now 72, so I've been going
back every year since then and running retreats there for the
last 25 years or so. Oh, nice, very nice.
Excellent, excellent. At the pyramids.
You do it at the pyramids there.Well, I mean, you know, Cairo is
one place, so you have to, not Cairo.
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Giza is one place that you have to visit.
So I run a 2 hour ritual where we chant for two hours solidly
and everybody has the opportunity of getting into the
sycophagus. It's called the resurrection
retreat. So people can die to their old
selves and are reborn into theirdivine blueprint.
That's the understanding. But we stay in Luxor and we
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travel staff to Aswan and we we go into the 8 principal earth
mode temples. But of course, over the years
I've developed a very close relationship with.
I'll be there in December. Anybody, if you want to come
with me, I'm just we're in July,the beginning of July, just
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before Independence Day. So I'm drawing a list of people
together to go with me in December.
Perfect, perfect. We'll bring up your site too,
because your site is that is that is this site here, the
angels of Atlantis and they would be able to find out more
from you down here as to how to sign up.
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Yes, I mean. On the tool on the toolbar,
well, there's a little bio and so forth and so on, but on the
toolbar there's a word events, you see, and you click on events
and then it takes you through toall the events and one of them
is the resurrection retreat. You know, perfect.
There you are. You see, there's a Luxor temple
and the Pilgrim is in Egypt. So it's very, very, very easy to
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find perfect, perfect. It's a wonderful monthly
workshop. When I channel the angels, we
haven't talked about. Maybe I should introduce the
angels through everybody. Please, please let us know.
Let us know because you do them on the monthly thing online.
Well, I do much more than that obviously, but yes, there is a
monthly workshop online. But in, you know, so we got to
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1980 in the chronology of my soulful existence.
And so being given this opportunity and we're walking,
working on people's voices, I was touching into their
intuitive membrane, touching into their soul.
And I realized that I needed more awakening.
So I went to a very famous school here called the College
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of Psychic Studies and they all wanted me to become a medium.
I knew I wasn't there for mediumship.
I was there to open up my intuitive or psychic
capabilities. But I got very good at readings,
very quick readings. So I've always had this very
ultra sensory awareness. And a friend of mine who just
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opened a crystal store in Glastonbury, the heart chopper
of and it was August 1987, the harmonic conversions.
You said, why don't you come down?
There's going to be a festival come down.
And do you know, you do these wonderful 15 minute, 30 minute
readings. We're going to have the world
and his wife here. And I just, I love crystals.
I loved John, his name was amazing guy.
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So I went and provided people with readings.
And then during the lunch time, I was exhausted, so I climbed
the tour, the highest sacred hill with thousands of other
people and, and meditated because by that time I've been
to India and all of my Swami teachers have meditate, meditate
and started dictating. And in the Middle East
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meditation, I heard these extraordinary sounds.
I mean really. And of course, with the
harmonics that I had learned, these extraordinarily high
pitched harmonics, light rushed into my body, which startled me,
this huge light. I opened my eyes and there were
these 12 huge orbs and I heard the voice that I remember from
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my child, my childhood inside me, which I know is Michael who
was with me in childhood, Archangel Michael saying we are
the angels of Atlantis and we give you a temple of sound
healing that you would call the Alchemy of Voice.
Perfect. That's where I met the angels of
Atlantis. And so I wanted to start
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teaching them because they gave me this huge download.
But they said no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're going to work on you and we'll probably work on you for
the next 20 years. And I said, well, what does this
mean? And also they said when the
student is ready, the masters come.
And so on the path of life, these extraordinary teachers
came, a Native American elder, New Mexico, a Sufi elder, wisdom
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keeper in Egypt, our amazing Kabbalist, and a Rosicrucian.
So they introduced me to my pastlives and how I gathered
together information that I was going to bring forth through the
angels. And then, as I was saying when
we were sharing, you know, aboutwhen we first met to 2010, two,
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1011, I realized that I could nolonger go on doing what I'd done
for 40 years. Well, 35 years that I needed to
change professions, so I resigned all of my establishment
positions, being the master of voice at Shakespeare's Globe
Theatre, where I was training actors in speaking.
She experienced so forth. I'm being an ambassador for the
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project, and that's when I came out of the spiritual closet.
My wings opened and the Angel said it's time because I needed
to learn how to embody their force.
Is that when you wrote the firstbook?
I'm a good boy. I listen, you see, I had the
command write the book because by that time we're talking about
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what we're talking about, 30 years.
They give me a lot of motion about Atlantis.
So I wrote the book and brought them into the world and also
produced the Oracle, the first Oracle which I have sitting here
and I thought might be interesting to see.
Well, what Oracle cards come up for this particular
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conversation? And the first is Radziel, the
Angel of the mysterious, becausethere are 12 angels of Atlantis
and he is one of them who sits on the right hand side of the
divine and eavesdrops on all of the divine's conversations.
And it's the card of dreams, meaning not just our sleeping
dreams, but our waking dreams. And of course, you know, you're
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re dreaming, you know, after thecrisis and the tragedy of losing
of your, your wife dying and going back into source, that
you're re dreaming, you're re becoming as we are all doing.
It's, you know, this brave new earth that we're wanting to
create from the embers of what'staking place in the world.
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And, and also Joffeo, the Angel of liberation comes in with joy,
pure joy. So yeah, Joffia, the the Angel
of Angel of vibration, because they all have archetypal
qualities that they live through, so to speak, of these
vibrational forms. I never see them as humans.
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The wings, they always come as beams of light or as orbits of
light, which I understand is theeasiest way for them to travel
through the density of Earth because of the the way that
they're enraptured by light and sound.
Well, that's interesting. There is a sound effect with it,
isn't it? It is, you know, that would that
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would affect the overall shape. Interesting, fascinating stuff,
Stuart. There's some incredible,
incredible stories that you've been working with here.
You do these things online as well as in person.
Do you do private readings as well?
Is the Pope Jewish? I think he is.
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Yes. I mean, you know, I particularly
since the challenge of COVID, right, many of us, my life
changed radically. Everything was on online.
I employed A-Team to help me. And so I see many people, many,
many, many people. At the moment I'm going through
a whole mentoring program which most of it is channeled with
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with individuals who book in fora four part session and come to
me, wonderful people from all over the world, but particularly
from the United States. I have a Oh, that's.
With the United States, yeah. But it was in, you see, just
having, you know, met Sandy and Sandy Zedgeby.
If you don't know, those of you listening don't know this
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wonderful lady who was also working for Steve in his, like,
broadcast network, forgive me. Was it right?
Virtual life broadcast. That's correct.
Virtual life, that's right, which is where you and I first
met and I was on three times, I think, flew to Vegas and and was
interviewed by Sandy that it allit all began to develop.
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And I was in New York at Saint John the Divine, you know, that
extraordinary 19th century building, but looking like a
medieval cathedral way Uptown. And I was listening to a
wonderful rabbi speak, and he suddenly looked at me.
And there were hundreds of people, but he suddenly looked
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at me and he said, you see angels?
I was sticking them around you. You know what?
the United States, America will be the gateway to the golden age
in 2032. You're to be here.
And I saw this flock of orbs in the cathedral, and that's when I
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knew I needed to be in the States.
So you may ask, well, why are you in the United Kingdom?
Because I sit online and I deal mostly with people in the US or
in the North America. I'm here finalizing karma, my
karma with the British and finalizing and was given huge
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opportunities to work with, you know, the intimacy of that, that
that establishment. So I'm resolving, resolving
that. And then when that's finished, I
will be locked stock and barrel over to the US.
That's fascinating. That's fascinating.
Yeah. We are.
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We are truly global beings. I've had the very fortunate
ability to travel quite a bit. Barb and I travelled over 26
countries in a very short time, and absolutely if I could give
any anything to everybody, it would be the ability to travel.
Because you see things from totally different perspectives.
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You see that we're all basicallythe same.
We've had different upbringings with different languages, we
have different customs, but we're all basically the same.
And when we can reach out and connect in those ways, it
becomes very, very magical. And a lot of these things that I
see you doing is there. It's intriguing, you know,
because I, I hear you when you say what you say, because we're
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talking about human nature wherever we go.
Human nature is human nature, but human beings change
different cultures. They're different, different
mores, different customs. And because we're seeing a lot
about what's happening within Islam at the moment and they're
very different from we Westerners.
But right to the car, the core element, and particularly in the
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spiritual development of this way that we teach spirit as
priests archetypically, but verydifferently from the established
order of faith within the varying faiths, you know,
whether whether it be Hinduism or Buddhism or Roman Catholicism
or Judaism or Episcopalian or whatever.
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Very, very different, very different.
So fascinating. Absolutely.
And like you, I've had the most extraordinary life of being
invited. You know, I people, I was being
interviewed by a major newspaperhere yesterday and they said,
what sort of life do you have? And I said, I have a charmed
life. They said, what is that?
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Yeah, what? I mean, we just sort of turn up
and then something happens. We have a charm.
We have an enchant to dive. I mean, we have magical lives
because we open our hearts and simply say of what service can I
be universe? And then the universe dispenses
something. It's just wonderful, wonderful.
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It's magical. It's magical.
We are. We are what the group calls us,
conscious creators. And we, we can, if we can
envision it, if we can accept it, if we can make space for it
in our heart, we will create it.Stepping into it one piece at a
time. It's what?
Does. That mean time to be here.
What does that mean for you? When you speak, conscious,
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create. When you speak we're conscious
create. What does that mean?
Well, mostly it means that everything that we can really
hold that we actually create ourreality every step of the way.
We don't typically see it because we get so wrapped up in
the. The group talks about the
automatic brain versus see versus the conscious brain, the
thinking brain versus the brain that just reacts.
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Most of the time we're in the brain that reacts, we're in the
automatic brain and to actually stop and step into consciousness
to where you can actually walk and create that you become a
conscious creator and you basically create everything in
front of you. Sometimes that's not the best
thing in the world, but you we take responsibility for what we
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create and then we do it. But that's what it means to me,
is that we are, we literally arewhat we can hold in there.
And I completely cohere, obviously, you know, I just talk
in slightly different words. I believe that we're purpose is
to optimize our creativity full of love and joy and we're given
the duality, the the system, theduality.
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This is the only planet of choice.
And so the angels say to me, well, what do you want to
create? Thought creates reality.
But of course, you and I know that the only way that that idea
can be manifest is when we startto feel what it is to manifest,
that we're actually here to feeljoy, to feel delight, to feel
expanded, to feel that we are conscious creators and that we
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are A1 with the divine, that we are all one.
And thereby we expand and we feel levels of delight flooding
through us so that we light up and therefore we become raid.
And we realize that as we look into the Milky Way, that we're
90% of our bodies are Stardust, so that we're actually part of
the creation of the mind. All through feeling, all through
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feeling, we have become with theintellect.
That is something that the group.
It's terror, the opinionation, rather than sharing from the
heart. That's what the word
experiencing at the moment in conflict.
Well, and that's a difficult part because we do, we, we do
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walk through the brain, We walk through the life looking where
we're going to do things, how we're going to do.
We are thinking beings, but we're also feeling beings.
So to be able to balance betweenthe head and the heart is the
most difficult part. We talked about the head being
electrical in nature and the heart being magnetic in nature.
It's actually part of the same thing.
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If you measure it this way, it'selectricity.
You measure it this way, it's it's magnetism.
So basically we're part of the same spiral in different ways.
But blending those two, you can have the greatest thought in the
world, but it's not going anywhere until you really get
behind it with your heart and blend those two together.
And then that's when that's whenwe become some of the highest.
Careers, everyone I just shared isn't it, you know?
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Yeah, no, it's the same thing from a different perspective.
Bring in the word magnetic because all of the work that I
do with great speakers is calledthe magnetic voice.
Oh nice. Which means simply that because
we're brought up to do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do we fixate on
doing that. We tend to strive and push.
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And so I they start, you know, particularly for an actor
speaking in a 1600 seat theatre,they start to push and the voice
just goes here like this. And of course there's nothing
but cerebral tones there. There's no, there's no emotional
resonance. And so I developed this whole
process of bringing, bringing the voice into the heart so that
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you literally maximize the audience in.
And this is what I shared. I shared with Margaret
instinctively. But obviously, over the last 14
years, I've honed this with great actors who I've been
fortunate enough to work with. And if you listen to Benedict
Cumberbatch, have you listened to Mark Rylance?
You listened Johnny Depp, You know, these are my boys.
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These are my actors that I worked.
I didn't realize that. Oh my God.
To it, Oh my God, this voice, this voice, this voice.
Oh my God, give me this voice. Give me this voice and at the
same time what I I take it into the world to help leaders,
particularly world leaders, to develop an understanding of what
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enlightened leadership is. That's amazing.
That's amazing. You're in a, you're in a very
unusual position to be able to do that too.
That's very amazing. It's all, it's all.
I'm very fortunate I developed alife of prestige and so I'm
working with a member of royaltyat the moment who's a very, very
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high-ranking member of royalty of just really engaging in the
same thing you see, of where is the truth?
Because right at the core of great acting is a truth of
feeling statements. So where do you feel truth?
Here or here? And how can we literally shake
the body of the audience so thatthey bring about change, so they
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move through catharsis and are healed through transformation,
so that they live a better day, a better night, a better life?
Speaking of royalty, tell me about Diana.
Yeah, that was amazing that I init was in 95 and I had a
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patroness in London who was a very, very successful right
restauranteur. And she introduced me to a
number of extraordinary people. And on this particular occasion,
Ros, I would call her and say, can I come and have she had the
most amazing Italian restaurant?And I would say, can I, Mara,
can I come and have pasta? And she would say, course,
darling, come and have pasta. And one evening she came and sat
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with me and she said, there's somebody I want you to work
with. So I said, oh, who's that?
And she said, why don't you comework for lunch next Thursday?
And I said, who is it? She said, no, just come along
for lunch. And I said, but now who is it?
Do you trust me? I trust you implicitly, so just
come and have lunch. So I walked into the restaurant
feeling what on earth you know Icould.
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My whole psyche was awakened to there's something going on here,
what is happening? What is happening?
What is happening? And I turned to the head waiter
who I knew well. And I said, Pepe, where is
Madame? He says she's downstairs in the
salon, Creve in the private room.
I said, who's she with? He said, you'll see when you get
there. Oh, mystery.
So I went down. The door was closed.
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So I knocked on the door, openedthe door, and there was Diana,
and there was Mara. And Diana leapt up and said, you
will work with me, won't you? These extraordinary blue eyes.
And in that moment, I fell in love.
I mean, she was just such an extraordinary human being and we
were together for two years. I coached her for two years and
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then of course it was finalized by her death.
Amazing how? Amazing.
That was, of course, in 1990 and97.
And then in 2016, I was working in Hollywood and a number of
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wonderful actresses that I was working with said, do you think
we should like, do you think we should talk about what happened
between ourselves and Harvey Weinstein?
And I said, of course you must. This is all about the arousal of
the divine. You have to liberate.
But how do we do that? And I said, well, you open your
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mouth, you speak true and let's prepare you because it's going
to be, it's going to require temerity and courage.
And one of them said, but you worked with Diana and Diana came
in, why didn't you write a book?And Diana and I had talked about
it all those years prior. And so she was, I was here
literally in this apartment. She was here and she taught me
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or showed me what to write. So I created this book, Diana,
the Voice of Change, which is a compilation.
All that we did, all of the empowerment skills that we, you
know, that we evoked, that led her into, because this was just
as she was divorcing from Charles and becoming the beauty
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that she was becoming. She was no longer the prisoner
of Windsor. You know, she was breaking for
this extraordinary role which touched the hearts of the world.
Yeah, it was extraordinary. So the book begins with love and
ends with love. That's amazing, absolutely
amazing. So you wrote the book after
after she passed, and you wrote the book with her, with her own?
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16/17/18 Yeah, it came in, well,actually probably 1718.
It came out around 2019, twenty,2020, just as COVID was
starting. Just when we're getting, just
when we're getting ready to turneverything upside down.
Amazing. Amazing, incredible work.
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Incredible stuff. We're going to be, I'm kind of
running out of time here, my friend.
I've enjoyed our conversation, but I want to ask you what, what
would you like to share with ouraudience?
Is there anything extra that you'd like to share with them or
important aspect of where we aretoday or any anything that you'd
like to share? We know these are testing times
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and we're being moved to the very quickened nature of who we
are, not what we are, but who weare of going into our truth.
But I also know through all of the work that I do with the
angels, I hear, I channel for them once a week and they become
a transmission on YouTube calledRadiant Revelations.
And they're saying to me why we,I was channelling earlier on
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today, because this is, you know, early for you and it's
7:00 for me. And they were saying the
movement forward will be collaborative and Co creative.
All your needs will be looked after.
Even if supply systems breakdown.
You will all be looked after. So open your heart and find your
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soul tribe. Call to them, beacon to them,
send love rays to them. Where are you?
Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
Stuart Pierce, thank you so muchfor being here today.
Thanks for joining us. Your your dear friend, your
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touch the hearts of the world. Very nice work.
Very nice work. We'll be sending some people to
your website and be able to connect and hopefully we'll have
you back in a little bit. Thank.
You so much. OK.
Thank you, Stuart. Thank you, everybody.
We'll be back with more from theBack Story Podcast in just a
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couple of weeks. A Spy of Everybody.
Thanks for being with us. Music.
Music. Hi everybody, welcome.
Welcome to the Back Story podcast.
Today I'm very honored to bring you a dear old friend, somebody
who we've known for many, many years.
He's been on the virtual live broadcast as a guest having to
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do with his books that have beenout.
He's just a fascinating got a fascinating story of where he
comes from, where the how this whole process is truly a multi
dimensional being. I'm talking about Stuart Pierce.
Stuart's a very dear friend. And welcome, Stuart.
Glad you're here today. It's wonderful to see you,
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Steve, having not been with you for many, many years.
So thanks for inviting me. Yeah.
I mean, it was, you know, way back around 2011, 2012, I think.
Must have. It was actually, it was before
the session of the equinoxes. So it's during the end of the
first decade. Right.
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Of century I. Mean not of I, I know where
you're at at times the illusion anyway, so that's OK.
So welcome today. So I wanted to bring you on.
Our people of course, are very interested in what you do, the
differences that we like to showpeople about how different
people work with other people, how they got there, what the
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whole process is. And you have some really
fascinating stories to tell about how you got there.
Would you mind sharing a little bit of of, and I know you've got
all these different realms that you can jump into.
Just choose one that's favorite for you and see what we got.
So you mean starting at of of mychildhood?
You mean that that's starting there?
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Yeah, that'd be a great place. You bet.
So I I suppose I had a slightly unusual childhood in the sense
of the fact that I was introduced to the central
dichotomies of life because my parents, my father worked for
the British royal family and so we were reared in that rarified
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situation. But my mother was a very
grounded individual who wanted us to have a real experience of
not rarify, but of being with so-called ordinary people.
So we were educated in what we call here state schools, not
private schools, but in what we call public schools.
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It's complicated. Public schools upwards.
We were, you know, we were, we were in schools not of
privileged classes. We were in schools of everybody,
you know. So that was quite fascinating
coming from a palace then going into this.
And I soon discovered that I hada quality of experience that
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many people didn't, that many ofmy peers didn't, in the sense
that I saw angels and I saw elementals and I saw dead
people. You know, I saw people that were
walking around often without heads.
And we, in contexts that for thefirst seven years of my life, we
were living in a place called St.
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James's Palace, which has been there since the 14th century.
So it's quite old and therefore it has history.
Many major things have happened for the British monarchy.
So there were lots of lots of dead people.
And what I said found fascinating about these beings
that walked around was that theywere very associated with their
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portraits because there were the, you know, the Queen of
England or the King of England. Now has this extraordinary
collection that's been made overthe years of over 1000 years of
portraiture of royal personages.And one day a being who was
known as Charles the First, who was executed in 1649 when there
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was a civil war going on in thisUnited Kingdom in, in the
Kingdom that it was before it became united.
And this being stepped out of the portrait.
And I had this conversation. So I had all of this going on,
but found it very different to, to, to learn at school.
I now know that I'm profoundly dyslexic.
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Then we didn't because this was the late 50s, early 60s, we
didn't know about dyslexia, synesthesia.
And I have this thing which we were talking about just now of a
crossover of the senses, which is what synesthesia is, which I
believe many of us have. But I was seeing sound, not just
hearing sound. I was seeing moving on
extraordinary waves of energy that sound was, and the power of
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sound, particularly when it became this sort of mitigating
circumstance of impinging on us through words.
But I couldn't read. And of course I was, you know, I
was beaten by not being able to read, not by, by my mother, my
father's mostly, but my, by my teachers who, who didn't know
what on earth they could do withthis child talking about angels
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and other dead and, and the factthat I couldn't do what they
wanted me to do. So essentially, they were really
frightened. So by the time I was around 8
1/2 nine, I sort of had had enough because I never gained
any approbation. I have a brother who's a year
old who was a brilliant scholar and he was always being approved
of and I was always being denounced.
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So I decided to shut up, which is sort of unusual for an 8 1/2
child. I was, by the way, very
garrulous. So I talked a lot, surprise,
surprise. And so I shut up and I said to
my brother David, you're now going to be my code breaker or
whatever. I said, I don't know.
And he said, oh, because we havethis intuitive connection.
So I just went for a year and a half and it made me real.
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Still, I got still. It was really for the first time
that I came in, that my spirit came in to flesh.
And I realized, ah, this is whatI'm here for, on a very, very
sensual sensory level. In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was made flesh. On the beginning was sound, and
the sound was made flesh and dwelt among us full of grace and
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truth. So I came deeply in and got
heavy, got grounded, and then I saw, I saw so much more clearly.
I saw the aura or auras of the people that were caregivers,
caretakers, those people over there who were brutalizing me.
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They had these dark purple, darkgrey, flashing red.
And I knew and over here were the women mostly who were loving
and caring and kind and they were surrounded by these pastel
colours. So I knew when someone tells you
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their truth, believe them. I knew who to go to and not go
over there, even though I was being demanded of as any student
hears, as any school child is toachieve something.
And that was huge, to be frank, as you can probably hear, my
voice broke very, very early when my both my brother and I
were very early pubescent. So 1011 was, you know, body
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hair, hormones, voice is breaking.
But you know, the way that that all took place really was that
after about a year and a half ofsilence, I was in the back of
the car and I thought now's the time to make sound, but I
couldn't because my vocal cords were slightly ossified, having
not sounded all that time. So I, I went and my mother
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nearly lapped into a tree or something.
I said, darling, you're, you're singing.
You're singing. And I so I thought this is the
easiest way of broaching the creating the bridge between
silence and voice fullness. So you have been totally, you
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have been totally silent up to that point.
You have actually not spoken. Wow.
Amazing. Perfect, wonderful way to look.
Wonderful way to learn to listen.
Yeah. I got really still, which means
I got press and you say. Right.
So it was a very early, early stage of facilitation for a very
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young child to get really, really, really present, to see
the multidimensional nature. I saw all of it through the
perceptuality of a small child. I couldn't make sense of it.
I didn't have the words for it. It was later in secondary
education or high school, but I started, you know, as soon as I,
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oh, by the way, in the in the choir, I learned to read.
Interesting, because I were singing.
Interesting. It was in flow.
It was in flow and the words literally dropped in.
Obviously I had the hymn or the prayer book called the Psalm in
front of me. I copied the other books and
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then the words dropped into my body and I loved words.
I got carried away with the sounds of words.
I remember I when I heard insignificant or jubilation, I
put it into every single sentence because it sounded so.
It was so beautiful to say it until my mother said, darling, I
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think we need to work out what these words mean.
You can't put. If you're using the office,
that's. Fine.
It was just so because I could. I could taste them, you see.
I could see them and taste and feel them.
So that in high school led me tosomebody saying there's
something about your voice, there's something about your
voice, why don't you join the drama group?
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And I thought, well, why not? And then drama group, suddenly
the teacher who I loved said, you're an actor, but I'd never
received approbation, you see? And suddenly there was a light
on the individual and this love Jet Ray came towards me.
So guess what? Eventually, when I graduated
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from high school, I joined. I went into a Conservatoire and
trained as an actor and became an actor.
And through the 70s, I worked asan actor.
Fascinating. You ended up teaching acting
too, did you not? Didn't you teach voice and
acting? Well, I was with a very famous
theatre company and we went on aworld tour, a company called the
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Royal Shakespeare Company, right?
And the voice director of the company mentored me.
She said there's something aboutyour voice, but you're running
scared. Come and work with me and I'll
mentor you. I was terrified.
I looked OK, but I was terrifiedin and we ended up with the tour
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on the world tour. We ended up on Broadway for
about 3 months and I fell in love.
I fell in love with the USI fellin love with New York.
I fell in love with somebody. And so when the company finished
the contract and came back to the UKI stayed on.
And I stayed on for two years and got an agent, got a manager
and worked. And then I was in the casting
for a movie with 20th Century Fox and I got it.
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And as I was packing up the apartment in Manhattan, the
telephone rang and everything went into slow motion.
And it was my brother saying, what are you doing?
It was very strange. The space-time continuum
distorted. And I knew exactly what he was
going to say. And he said, Mom's got terminal
cancer, she's got three months to live.
What are you going to do about it, This sacred song?
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So I let the let the contract go, let the job go and came back
to the UK was in breach of contract, but I thought it was
the most important thing to do. Our father had died three years
prior from a heart attack. She was only 58.
So I nursed her for a year and then ends.
And then it was the question of shit, what do I do, what do I
do, What do I do? I lost my manager, lost my
agent, was in breach of contract.
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And out of the blue the telephone rang.
This is way before cell phones. The old, you know the old.
Landline landlines, yes. And it was, it was my mentor
from the Royal Shakespeare Company saying what are you
doing? I said, I'm not doing anything,
I'm being this. And she said, shit, what are you
going to do? I said, I don't know, you should
come and teach for me. So a huge door opened and then
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the next breath she said to me, and I want you to go and work
with this woman. I don't want to work with her
because I'm a die hard Conservative.
You know, in terms of we have Labour and Conservative, sorry,
I beg your pardon. She was a die hard socialist and
she said there's this woman who's just taken over the
Conservative Party, go and work with her.
So within a week I was walking into Downing St. to work with
Margaret Thatcher. So it was a baptism by that's
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where it started. That was my in 1980, that was my
voice teaching career and huge opportunities came for me.
It was obvious the wheel of destiny.
Destiny had turned and I was, you know, my destiny was to move
in relation to sacred sound. You have a you have a sacred
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sound deep within you. I'd be willing to bet it was
there as a child and all this work and everything else that
came through. It's here.
But just to even hear you talk is a vibrational healing.
You have a magical way of being able to put those vibrations
together. And of course, you're very
eloquent with your words and your poetry is amazing.
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So it's, it's fun to, to watch all the pieces of it come
together. But my guess is that you had
something deep inside right fromthe very beginning.
And it took all this stuff to get out it to, you know, to get
you to trust it, to get you to work with it and so forth.
That's, that's absolutely amazing.
And we've heard of synesthesia before.
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That's basically how how the theIndigo children began.
Lady by the name of Nancy Tappy,a spiritual teacher, had severe
synesthesia and saw colors around people.
She saw people as colors, not just the aura, but the actual
people. And that's where that that whole
phrase came from originally. So it is absolutely fascinating,
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absolutely fascinating to hear this story.
You've got quite a, quite a history here, Sir.
Absolutely amazing. So what do you what?
Do you use commenting? Because it would be conceited of
me to comment. That's just what happened.
But of course, my connection with the divine is so refined,
always has been from the word go.
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During high school, I discoveredAnglo Catholicism and you know,
and being wrapped within the ministry of the sacraments and
the beauty of the bell, what we call the bells and the smells,
you know, the incense and the extraordinary choreography of
Mass. For me, it was a reminder of my
Atlantean, Egyptian self becauseat the age of 15, I discovered
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Egypt. And that's where I met Thoth.
That's where I met my master, who was.
The mastermind, you go there. Did you go there?
A. Bonding exercise with my
Pennsylvania because we had a difficult relationship.
I have sat and diametrically opposed to my son in Taurus.
So daddy or patriarchy or bossesalways find me very difficult
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and, and saying to my mum, you know, mummy, should I go?
And she said, darling, you know,when he when you're away, he's
different. So we went on a bonding exercise
and on the last night of being in Cairo, dad was not interested
in the mysteries at all. He was just meeting friends.
He was a bond viver and he lovedpeople and bless him, you know,
he was he was a great storyteller.
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And on the last night we were having dinner in a restaurant
and this man walked in. I saw coming in to the foyer of
the rest are very elegant with ahat, gloves and a cane.
This would have been 63, I guess.
Cairo was very French then. And this was the vicor Jacques
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Latoise, and he was a friend of my father's.
So he came over and put his hands on my dad's shoulders.
And my father says Jacques, and jumped up.
And then they, you know, they, they embraced and he came and
joined us and I developed a connection with him.
So over breakfast the following day, Jacques said, well, Joe, my
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father Stuart is really fascinated in the mysteries.
It seems such a shame that you're leaving without going
into the pyramid. If you leave him with me, I'll
take him down the Nile. And so my father looked at him
and said, well, do you need to go back to school?
And I said, well, not for another 10 days.
I thought it was the most amazing adventure there was in
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front of it. Of course, I was terrified.
But the same time I was so excited.
And Jacques took me into the pyramid.
I met Thoth. And then we got onto one of
those extraordinary they're called Habibiya there.
There's sailing boats that also have a motor that go down that
hold cabins for about 18 people.And, you know, all the servants
then were in livery. And it was very death on the
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Nile. And we sailed down to Luxor and
then all the way down to Oswan. And Jacques was a very great
esotericist. He knew his stuff.
So he showed me huge amount and I was just in wonder.
So it's not surprising that I'vebeen going back virtually every
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year. I'm now 72, so I've been going
back every year since then and running retreats there for the
last 25 years or so. Oh, nice, very nice.
Excellent, excellent. At the pyramids.
You do it at the pyramids there.Well, I mean, you know, Cairo is
one place, so you have to, not Cairo.
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Giza is one place that you have to visit.
So I run a 2 hour ritual where we chant for two hours solidly
and everybody has the opportunity of getting into the
sycophagus. It's called the resurrection
retreat. So people can die to their old
selves and are reborn into theirdivine blueprint.
That's the understanding. But we stay in Luxor and we
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travel staff to Aswan and we we go into the 8 principal earth
mode temples. But of course, over the years
I've developed a very close relationship with.
I'll be there in December. Anybody, if you want to come
with me, I'm just we're in July,the beginning of July, just
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before Independence Day. So I'm drawing a list of people
together to go with me in December.
Perfect, perfect. We'll bring up your site too,
because your site is that is that is this site here, the
angels of Atlantis and they would be able to find out more
from you down here as to how to sign up.
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Yes, I mean. On the tool on the toolbar,
well, there's a little bio and so forth and so on, but on the
toolbar there's a word events, you see, and you click on events
and then it takes you through toall the events and one of them
is the resurrection retreat. You know, perfect.
There you are. You see, there's a Luxor temple
and the Pilgrim is in Egypt. So it's very, very, very easy to
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find perfect, perfect. It's a wonderful monthly
workshop. When I channel the angels, we
haven't talked about. Maybe I should introduce the
angels through everybody. Please, please let us know.
Let us know because you do them on the monthly thing online.
Well, I do much more than that obviously, but yes, there is a
monthly workshop online. But in, you know, so we got to
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1980 in the chronology of my soulful existence.
And so being given this opportunity and we're walking,
working on people's voices, I was touching into their
intuitive membrane, touching into their soul.
And I realized that I needed more awakening.
So I went to a very famous school here called the College
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of Psychic Studies and they all wanted me to become a medium.
I knew I wasn't there for mediumship.
I was there to open up my intuitive or psychic
capabilities. But I got very good at readings,
very quick readings. So I've always had this very
ultra sensory awareness. And a friend of mine who just
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opened a crystal store in Glastonbury, the heart chopper
of and it was August 1987, the harmonic conversions.
You said, why don't you come down?
There's going to be a festival come down.
And do you know, you do these wonderful 15 minute, 30 minute
readings. We're going to have the world
and his wife here. And I just, I love crystals.
I loved John, his name was amazing guy.
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So I went and provided people with readings.
And then during the lunch time, I was exhausted, so I climbed
the tour, the highest sacred hill with thousands of other
people and, and meditated because by that time I've been
to India and all of my Swami teachers have meditate, meditate
and started dictating. And in the Middle East
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meditation, I heard these extraordinary sounds.
I mean really. And of course, with the
harmonics that I had learned, these extraordinarily high
pitched harmonics, light rushed into my body, which startled me,
this huge light. I opened my eyes and there were
these 12 huge orbs and I heard the voice that I remember from
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my child, my childhood inside me, which I know is Michael who
was with me in childhood, Archangel Michael saying we are
the angels of Atlantis and we give you a temple of sound
healing that you would call the Alchemy of Voice.
Perfect. That's where I met the angels of
Atlantis. And so I wanted to start
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teaching them because they gave me this huge download.
But they said no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're going to work on you and we'll probably work on you for
the next 20 years. And I said, well, what does this
mean? And also they said when the
student is ready, the masters come.
And so on the path of life, these extraordinary teachers
came, a Native American elder, New Mexico, a Sufi elder, wisdom
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keeper in Egypt, our amazing Kabbalist, and a Rosicrucian.
So they introduced me to my pastlives and how I gathered
together information that I was going to bring forth through the
angels. And then, as I was saying when
we were sharing, you know, aboutwhen we first met to 2010, two,
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1011, I realized that I could nolonger go on doing what I'd done
for 40 years. Well, 35 years that I needed to
change professions, so I resigned all of my establishment
positions, being the master of voice at Shakespeare's Globe
Theatre, where I was training actors in speaking.
She experienced so forth. I'm being an ambassador for the
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project, and that's when I came out of the spiritual closet.
My wings opened and the Angel said it's time because I needed
to learn how to embody their force.
Is that when you wrote the firstbook?
I'm a good boy. I listen, you see, I had the
command write the book because by that time we're talking about
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what we're talking about, 30 years.
They give me a lot of motion about Atlantis.
So I wrote the book and brought them into the world and also
produced the Oracle, the first Oracle which I have sitting here
and I thought might be interesting to see.
Well, what Oracle cards come up for this particular
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conversation? And the first is Radziel, the
Angel of the mysterious, becausethere are 12 angels of Atlantis
and he is one of them who sits on the right hand side of the
divine and eavesdrops on all of the divine's conversations.
And it's the card of dreams, meaning not just our sleeping
dreams, but our waking dreams. And of course, you know, you're
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re dreaming, you know, after thecrisis and the tragedy of losing
of your, your wife dying and going back into source, that
you're re dreaming, you're re becoming as we are all doing.
It's, you know, this brave new earth that we're wanting to
create from the embers of what'staking place in the world.
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And, and also Joffeo, the Angel of liberation comes in with joy,
pure joy. So yeah, Joffia, the the Angel
of Angel of vibration, because they all have archetypal
qualities that they live through, so to speak, of these
vibrational forms. I never see them as humans.
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The wings, they always come as beams of light or as orbits of
light, which I understand is theeasiest way for them to travel
through the density of Earth because of the the way that
they're enraptured by light and sound.
Well, that's interesting. There is a sound effect with it,
isn't it? It is, you know, that would that
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would affect the overall shape. Interesting, fascinating stuff,
Stuart. There's some incredible,
incredible stories that you've been working with here.
You do these things online as well as in person.
Do you do private readings as well?
Is the Pope Jewish? I think he is.
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Yes. I mean, you know, I particularly
since the challenge of COVID, right, many of us, my life
changed radically. Everything was on online.
I employed A-Team to help me. And so I see many people, many,
many, many people. At the moment I'm going through
a whole mentoring program which most of it is channeled with
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with individuals who book in fora four part session and come to
me, wonderful people from all over the world, but particularly
from the United States. I have a Oh, that's.
With the United States, yeah. But it was in, you see, just
having, you know, met Sandy and Sandy Zedgeby.
If you don't know, those of you listening don't know this
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wonderful lady who was also working for Steve in his, like,
broadcast network, forgive me. Was it right?
Virtual life broadcast. That's correct.
Virtual life, that's right, which is where you and I first
met and I was on three times, I think, flew to Vegas and and was
interviewed by Sandy that it allit all began to develop.
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And I was in New York at Saint John the Divine, you know, that
extraordinary 19th century building, but looking like a
medieval cathedral way Uptown. And I was listening to a
wonderful rabbi speak, and he suddenly looked at me.
And there were hundreds of people, but he suddenly looked
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at me and he said, you see angels?
I was sticking them around you. You know what?
the United States, America will be the gateway to the golden age
in 2032. You're to be here.
And I saw this flock of orbs in the cathedral, and that's when I
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knew I needed to be in the States.
So you may ask, well, why are you in the United Kingdom?
Because I sit online and I deal mostly with people in the US or
in the North America. I'm here finalizing karma, my
karma with the British and finalizing and was given huge
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opportunities to work with, you know, the intimacy of that, that
that establishment. So I'm resolving, resolving
that. And then when that's finished, I
will be locked stock and barrel over to the US.
That's fascinating. That's fascinating.
Yeah. We are.
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We are truly global beings. I've had the very fortunate
ability to travel quite a bit. Barb and I travelled over 26
countries in a very short time, and absolutely if I could give
any anything to everybody, it would be the ability to travel.
Because you see things from totally different perspectives.
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You see that we're all basicallythe same.
We've had different upbringings with different languages, we
have different customs, but we're all basically the same.
And when we can reach out and connect in those ways, it
becomes very, very magical. And a lot of these things that I
see you doing is there. It's intriguing, you know,
because I, I hear you when you say what you say, because we're
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talking about human nature wherever we go.
Human nature is human nature, but human beings change
different cultures. They're different, different
mores, different customs. And because we're seeing a lot
about what's happening within Islam at the moment and they're
very different from we Westerners.
But right to the car, the core element, and particularly in the
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spiritual development of this way that we teach spirit as
priests archetypically, but verydifferently from the established
order of faith within the varying faiths, you know,
whether whether it be Hinduism or Buddhism or Roman Catholicism
or Judaism or Episcopalian or whatever.
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Very, very different, very different.
So fascinating. Absolutely.
And like you, I've had the most extraordinary life of being
invited. You know, I people, I was being
interviewed by a major newspaperhere yesterday and they said,
what sort of life do you have? And I said, I have a charmed
life. They said, what is that?
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Yeah, what? I mean, we just sort of turn up
and then something happens. We have a charm.
We have an enchant to dive. I mean, we have magical lives
because we open our hearts and simply say of what service can I
be universe? And then the universe dispenses
something. It's just wonderful, wonderful.
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It's magical. It's magical.
We are. We are what the group calls us,
conscious creators. And we, we can, if we can
envision it, if we can accept it, if we can make space for it
in our heart, we will create it.Stepping into it one piece at a
time. It's what?
Does. That mean time to be here.
What does that mean for you? When you speak, conscious,
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create. When you speak we're conscious
create. What does that mean?
Well, mostly it means that everything that we can really
hold that we actually create ourreality every step of the way.
We don't typically see it because we get so wrapped up in
the. The group talks about the
automatic brain versus see versus the conscious brain, the
thinking brain versus the brain that just reacts.
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Most of the time we're in the brain that reacts, we're in the
automatic brain and to actually stop and step into consciousness
to where you can actually walk and create that you become a
conscious creator and you basically create everything in
front of you. Sometimes that's not the best
thing in the world, but you we take responsibility for what we
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create and then we do it. But that's what it means to me,
is that we are, we literally arewhat we can hold in there.
And I completely cohere, obviously, you know, I just talk
in slightly different words. I believe that we're purpose is
to optimize our creativity full of love and joy and we're given
the duality, the the system, theduality.
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This is the only planet of choice.
And so the angels say to me, well, what do you want to
create? Thought creates reality.
But of course, you and I know that the only way that that idea
can be manifest is when we startto feel what it is to manifest,
that we're actually here to feeljoy, to feel delight, to feel
expanded, to feel that we are conscious creators and that we
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are A1 with the divine, that we are all one.
And thereby we expand and we feel levels of delight flooding
through us so that we light up and therefore we become raid.
And we realize that as we look into the Milky Way, that we're
90% of our bodies are Stardust, so that we're actually part of
the creation of the mind. All through feeling, all through
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feeling, we have become with theintellect.
That is something that the group.
It's terror, the opinionation, rather than sharing from the
heart. That's what the word
experiencing at the moment in conflict.
Well, and that's a difficult part because we do, we, we do
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walk through the brain, We walk through the life looking where
we're going to do things, how we're going to do.
We are thinking beings, but we're also feeling beings.
So to be able to balance betweenthe head and the heart is the
most difficult part. We talked about the head being
electrical in nature and the heart being magnetic in nature.
It's actually part of the same thing.
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If you measure it this way, it'selectricity.
You measure it this way, it's it's magnetism.
So basically we're part of the same spiral in different ways.
But blending those two, you can have the greatest thought in the
world, but it's not going anywhere until you really get
behind it with your heart and blend those two together.
And then that's when that's whenwe become some of the highest.
Careers, everyone I just shared isn't it, you know?
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Yeah, no, it's the same thing from a different perspective.
Bring in the word magnetic because all of the work that I
do with great speakers is calledthe magnetic voice.
Oh nice. Which means simply that because
we're brought up to do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do we fixate on
doing that. We tend to strive and push.
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And so I they start, you know, particularly for an actor
speaking in a 1600 seat theatre,they start to push and the voice
just goes here like this. And of course there's nothing
but cerebral tones there. There's no, there's no emotional
resonance. And so I developed this whole
process of bringing, bringing the voice into the heart so that
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you literally maximize the audience in.
And this is what I shared. I shared with Margaret
instinctively. But obviously, over the last 14
years, I've honed this with great actors who I've been
fortunate enough to work with. And if you listen to Benedict
Cumberbatch, have you listened to Mark Rylance?
You listened Johnny Depp, You know, these are my boys.
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These are my actors that I worked.
I didn't realize that. Oh my God.
To it, Oh my God, this voice, this voice, this voice.
Oh my God, give me this voice. Give me this voice and at the
same time what I I take it into the world to help leaders,
particularly world leaders, to develop an understanding of what
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enlightened leadership is. That's amazing.
That's amazing. You're in a, you're in a very
unusual position to be able to do that too.
That's very amazing. It's all, it's all.
I'm very fortunate I developed alife of prestige and so I'm
working with a member of royaltyat the moment who's a very, very
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high-ranking member of royalty of just really engaging in the
same thing you see, of where is the truth?
Because right at the core of great acting is a truth of
feeling statements. So where do you feel truth?
Here or here? And how can we literally shake
the body of the audience so thatthey bring about change, so they
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move through catharsis and are healed through transformation,
so that they live a better day, a better night, a better life?
Speaking of royalty, tell me about Diana.
Yeah, that was amazing that I init was in 95 and I had a
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patroness in London who was a very, very successful right
restauranteur. And she introduced me to a
number of extraordinary people. And on this particular occasion,
Ros, I would call her and say, can I come and have she had the
most amazing Italian restaurant?And I would say, can I, Mara,
can I come and have pasta? And she would say, course,
darling, come and have pasta. And one evening she came and sat
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with me and she said, there's somebody I want you to work
with. So I said, oh, who's that?
And she said, why don't you comework for lunch next Thursday?
And I said, who is it? She said, no, just come along
for lunch. And I said, but now who is it?
Do you trust me? I trust you implicitly, so just
come and have lunch. So I walked into the restaurant
feeling what on earth you know Icould.
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My whole psyche was awakened to there's something going on here,
what is happening? What is happening?
What is happening? And I turned to the head waiter
who I knew well. And I said, Pepe, where is
Madame? He says she's downstairs in the
salon, Creve in the private room.
I said, who's she with? He said, you'll see when you get
there. Oh, mystery.
So I went down. The door was closed.
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So I knocked on the door, openedthe door, and there was Diana,
and there was Mara. And Diana leapt up and said, you
will work with me, won't you? These extraordinary blue eyes.
And in that moment, I fell in love.
I mean, she was just such an extraordinary human being and we
were together for two years. I coached her for two years and
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then of course it was finalized by her death.
Amazing how? Amazing.
That was, of course, in 1990 and97.
And then in 2016, I was working in Hollywood and a number of
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wonderful actresses that I was working with said, do you think
we should like, do you think we should talk about what happened
between ourselves and Harvey Weinstein?
And I said, of course you must. This is all about the arousal of
the divine. You have to liberate.
But how do we do that? And I said, well, you open your
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mouth, you speak true and let's prepare you because it's going
to be, it's going to require temerity and courage.
And one of them said, but you worked with Diana and Diana came
in, why didn't you write a book?And Diana and I had talked about
it all those years prior. And so she was, I was here
literally in this apartment. She was here and she taught me
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or showed me what to write. So I created this book, Diana,
the Voice of Change, which is a compilation.
All that we did, all of the empowerment skills that we, you
know, that we evoked, that led her into, because this was just
as she was divorcing from Charles and becoming the beauty
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that she was becoming. She was no longer the prisoner
of Windsor. You know, she was breaking for
this extraordinary role which touched the hearts of the world.
Yeah, it was extraordinary. So the book begins with love and
ends with love. That's amazing, absolutely
amazing. So you wrote the book after
after she passed, and you wrote the book with her, with her own?
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16/17/18 Yeah, it came in, well,actually probably 1718.
It came out around 2019, twenty,2020, just as COVID was
starting. Just when we're getting, just
when we're getting ready to turneverything upside down.
Amazing. Amazing, incredible work.
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Incredible stuff. We're going to be, I'm kind of
running out of time here, my friend.
I've enjoyed our conversation, but I want to ask you what, what
would you like to share with ouraudience?
Is there anything extra that you'd like to share with them or
important aspect of where we aretoday or any anything that you'd
like to share? We know these are testing times
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and we're being moved to the very quickened nature of who we
are, not what we are, but who weare of going into our truth.
But I also know through all of the work that I do with the
angels, I hear, I channel for them once a week and they become
a transmission on YouTube calledRadiant Revelations.
And they're saying to me why we,I was channelling earlier on
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today, because this is, you know, early for you and it's
7:00 for me. And they were saying the
movement forward will be collaborative and Co creative.
All your needs will be looked after.
Even if supply systems breakdown.
You will all be looked after. So open your heart and find your
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soul tribe. Call to them, beacon to them,
send love rays to them. Where are you?
Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
Stuart Pierce, thank you so muchfor being here today.
Thanks for joining us. Your your dear friend, your
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touch the hearts of the world. Very nice work.
Very nice work. We'll be sending some people to
your website and be able to connect and hopefully we'll have
you back in a little bit. Thank.
You so much. OK.
Thank you, Stuart. Thank you, everybody.
We'll be back with more from theBack Story Podcast in just a
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couple of weeks. A Spy of Everybody.
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